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Feb. 15, 2023 - Stew Peters Show
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LIVE: East Palestine NUKED! Toxic Train Victim SPEAKS OUT, Chemical Burn Off To POISON The Nation
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Welcome to The Stu Peter Show.
I'm Lauren Witzke, filling in for Stu.
Now everybody's talking about the East Palestine incident, the train derailment, the mishandling of the hazardous materials.
We wanted to bring you the truth, so we went and found people on the ground.
We found the experts.
And today on the Stu Peters Show, you're going to hear a lot about the truth about what really happened in East Palestine.
Sil Caggiano, he is a former fire chief.
He's about 20 miles away from the incident.
He is a hazardous materials specialist.
He's been one for almost 40 years.
So the other day, one of the journalists went to His location to kind of interview him, find out what was really going on, and they got an earful.
You know why?
Because they pulled aside an expert.
They didn't get somebody who had no idea what they were talking about.
They grabbed an expert.
Here's Syl.
We basically nuked a town with chemicals so we could get a railroad open.
The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency sent a letter to Norfolk Southern stating that ethylene glycomonobutyl ether, ethylaxoacrylate, and isobutylene were also in the rail cars that were derailed, breached, or on fire.
Caggiano says ethylaxoacrylate is especially worrisome.
He says it's a carcinogen, and contact with it can cause burning and irritation in the skin and eyes.
Breathing it in can irritate the nose, throat, and cause coughing and shortness of breath.
Isobutylene is also known to cause dizziness and drowsiness when inhaled.
I was kind of surprised that when they quickly told the people they can go back home, but then said if they feel like they want their homes tested, they can have them tested.
I would have far rather they did all the testing.
Caggiano says it's possible.
Some of these chemicals could still be present in homes and on objects until you clean them thoroughly.
There's a lot of what-ifs and we're going to be looking at this thing 5, 10, 15, 20 years down the line and wondering, gee, cancer clusters could pop up, you know, well water could go bad.
Kajianna recommends anyone who's in the East Palestine area get a health checkup.
He says get a record now of where your health stands so that moving forward you have documentation of any possibly related effects to the train derailment.
Fortunately for us, we were able to get a hold of Syl and he is here to join us now.
Syl, thank you so much for coming on, taking the time to really give us a deep dive of what's going on.
Listen, you are the expert here.
You have been working with hazardous materials.
You've been a specialist for almost 40 years.
Now, what are the long-term effects of what could possibly happen for people who stay in that area?
The short-term effects currently are, you know, difficulty breathing, rashes, burning eyes.
I mean, there is a whole host of chemicals, just not above what was listed there.
You had the vinyl acrylates, you had the vinyl chlorides, or butyl acrylates and vinyl chlorides.
When those burned, that broke down into hydrogen chloride and phosgene gases.
So there is a whole host of things and just because it's no longer spewing out or burning doesn't mean that it's not still there.
It could be on surfaces, it could be anywhere.
So, you know, they're They keep backing up on what, you know, first there's nothing wrong.
Then, well, you know, there's some respiratory problems.
There's nothing wrong with the water.
Now last night, Governor DeWine has recommended that people drink bottled water.
So we keep backing up instead of making the necessary steps forward when it happened.
We're now looking at this in hindsight and starting to back up and back up and back up.
Federal EPA said everything was fined.
Now the federal EPA has went ahead under a CIRCLA Act issuing the Superfund clauses where they want to make them pay for stuff.
They've also found out that the rail company has potentially swept some contaminated soil underneath their tracks and we've got rain coming, that's going to percolate down into the soil.
They found vinyl chloride in the water.
God knows what it precipitated out from the cloud, from the explosion.
And that was one of the reasons why I coined that phrase, nuked a town, because there's somebody, I think, from Darlington, Pennsylvania, that showed this black cloud over their house.
And coming out of it was this particulate matter floating down.
And I said, you know, it reminds you of those apocalypse movies after they've detonated nuclear weapons, you have all this fallout.
And I'm thinking, well, yeah, that's what we did.
We nuked this town, not with a nuclear bomb, but with chemicals.
And now this stuff is falling out and it's on the ground.
So that's something else that they have to look at.
What came out of the cloud?
Right.
How far can this spread, do you think?
Like, is it potentially, we're hearing of reports all the way in Pennsylvania saying that people are starting to get respiratory issues.
They smell plastic, like it's burning plastic in the air.
People who had asthma, it was triggered and it was like overnight that it was happening.
And how far could this potentially spread, do you believe?
Well, the day they decided to detonate all the tanker cars and burn the stuff up, there was a 3,000-foot inversion at the time of the explosion.
And then the Windsor, at that day, coming out of the southeast, heading to, or coming out of the northeast, heading to the southwest.
Later on that evening, the inversion, which basically stopped, as you look at it, when something burns, the smoke goes up and it makes little plumes and it goes But with an inversion, it goes up and it starts traveling laterally in all directions.
And that's what was happening at 3,000 feet.
It was stratifying.
It was starting to come down.
It hit that wall and then the smoke starts coming down.
That inversion dropped to about 1,000 feet by about 9, 10 o'clock that night.
And the wind direction did a 180.
It was no longer coming out of the northeast heading to the southwest.
It was coming from the southwest heading up to the northeast.
So 20, 30 miles away in Youngstown, Ohio, people were smelling chlorine.
Right.
Which was what you would smell.
Other people were smelling a sweet odor, which could have possibly been a lot of the other volatile organic chemicals that they had in that train.
So they were smelling it.
The question is, the precipitation that I've seen coming out of this video dropping into this guy's house, farm, whatever it is, what was in that?
Now it's in his soil.
What are the federal EPA's plans going forward?
They're going to have some kind of protocol.
To start testing these soils, because remember, East Palestine is majorly a farm community.
So if you have some soil contamination, and you plant plants like carrots, potatoes, something that's ground rooted, it's going to uptake those chemicals, and then we're going to be re-eating this stuff when we eat the potatoes or the carrots and stuff.
So there has to be a plan, and a lot of this stuff isn't forthcoming.
It just seems like, you know, People that said, well, you're making the worst case scenario.
Well, these worst case scenarios are coming to fruition here.
And every day, they just keep backing up and backing up.
The vinyl chloride made it into the Ohio River.
All the people that take water out of the Ohio River had to shut their intakes out while this passed through.
How much more bad do you want?
And the people of East Palestine, they just want their town made whole again, if they ever can.
We don't know about dioxins.
We don't know about furons that may have came out.
They're monitoring for volatile organic chemicals.
Last night's media with the health guy from the state of Ohio, I had to laugh.
He's comparing the exposure of these people in East Palestine to casual exposures we get to volatile organic chemicals like by filling our gas tanks.
Well, great.
Yeah, I'm getting exposed to volatile organic chemicals every day, but I ain't getting exposed to 20 railroad containers Full of 113,000 gallons of this stuff being blown up in my town.
What are you trying to tell me here?
And you get people like, well, you know, we were there for a few minutes and there's nothing.
It's lived there.
This stuff is filmed.
There's films on it.
You can see what came down.
I'm not saying that anything happened that you can't go online and see for yourself.
And these people, they need help.
They need their stuff cleaned out.
They need the government to act.
And hindsight being 20-20, Ohio and the federal government has to start making these railroads safe.
They're traveling through towns like East Palestine, and this train was not marked as a high hazard train.
You had 20 cars filled with vinyl chloride, which is a cancerous, hazardous substance.
And it wasn't marked as a high hazard car.
The reason why?
It is financially expedient for them.
Because if they do that, there's certain things that they can and cannot do with that train.
That's interesting.
This all has to end.
Everybody has to look at this and you've got to get this out of the box moment.
We used to call it in the fire service where things are going wrong and you have to step back and say, okay, what did we do wrong?
What can we change to change the situation?
And the entire nation has to look at this and get that out of the box moment, especially the legislators on both sides of the aisle.
They have to get out of the box and say, hey look, this can happen anywhere, anywhere.
What are we gonna do so this never happens again?
Lord knows what's gonna happen long term for this.
This could be years.
If they find dioxins, we're talking Times Beach and Love Canal.
These people have problems.
And in retrospect, I decide I want to get...
I live in East Palestine.
Say I live in East Palestine.
I want to move.
Who's going to buy my house?
Yeah.
Question.
So, I have a question for you.
I wanted to interject real quick.
Now, since you are...
You have dealt with hazardous materials for 39 years.
You're a retired fire chief.
This is what you did before.
How would you...
Would you say that the management of the train derailment was mishandled?
And how should have it been done?
Was it the completely wrong way, like the obviously wrong way to handle this?
You know, because I can't help but feel like it was almost like intentional because it was so mishandled.
What are your thoughts on that?
Was there another way, a better way to handle this?
Well, let's first look at where it was done.
It was in East Palestine.
A very small community that just happens to have a rail line through there.
They've never experienced anything like this before, and it's a small community.
This overwhelmed them.
And I am sure Norfolk Southern came in and they were very relieved when Norfolk Southern decided to take control of it.
I don't know if it happened or not, but this is what appears to have what happened, because they started to be the people that were making all the statements.
And in my opinion, When they're doing that, you've got the fox guarding the hen house.
I've dealt with railroads before.
There's only one thing they're concerned with, and that's getting their trains back online and running their trains through.
So I have a healthy respect of any advice they give me.
I remember vividly one time at a derailment, I was coming back in a full suit, a Level A suit, checking for what was leaking out of one of the cars, and after we determined it wasn't hazardous, As I was walking out, the crews to get the railroad cars back on were already coming down, you know, passing me by as I was coming out in asthma.
So I'm very aware of how they want to handle things.
But I think maybe that might have influenced what was going on.
And, you know, if you're not experienced with it, you think the railroad, yeah, we have derailments every day.
Sometimes, you know, there's advice that you shouldn't get taken.
And when I started listening to evacuation zones, I'm like, no, you know, You've got to start making bigger evacuation zones.
And this all comes from not getting the right advice, not getting, not, you know, being able to think things through.
And then the, you know, the pressers that they had were all, you know, you weren't getting very many good answers.
Well, what was in the car?
We don't know.
And that's actually how I came into this because the news media, who knew me, started calling me and saying, hey, Syl, what's this?
What's that?
And they're giving me numbers to cars.
They're giving me, UNID numbers, the chemicals that were in there, and I'm telling them.
And this should have been coming from the incident command structure, no matter who was writing it.
This should have been coming.
And one of the things I learned when I became a commander through public information schools that I went to, you tell the truth, you tell it first, you tell it all, and if you messed up, you tell people how you're going to fix the problem.
That hasn't went on here yet.
And it seems like it's just excuse after excuse after excuse, and it's more backing up and backing up and backing up.
Yep, and now it went from, okay, the water's safe to drink.
Oh, maybe you should drink bottled water, you know, and it keeps pushing the window farther and farther back when it should have been handled honestly and appropriately from the beginning.
Now, you're about 20 miles away.
Are you smelling anything in the air?
Are you drinking your own water?
What's going on personally where you are?
Well, my water service comes out of a Meander Reservoir, which is a two-county reservoir.
I don't think it was that well affected by anything.
Plus, they do a lot of monitoring for stuff, and I'm sure that they're doing heads-up monitoring of anything that comes in.
Vinyl chlorides have been getting into their waters, and this is something that I addressed days into this.
Is it getting into the water systems?
Are they checking their well waters?
And if they're getting their water from a well, which I think East Palestine does, shoving all that dirt underneath the railroad tracks that was contaminated with vinyl chlorides, that just allows it to perk through the ground, and it's going to get into the wells.
And everybody I know that has called me and asked me, I've said, get your wells tested now.
Go get some health, you know, go get your health tested now.
So you have a baseline, so that when all of a sudden your well goes bad, Or your health goes bad.
And they say, well, you know, you had that problem before this happened because, you know, everything gets litigated out.
And from the sounds of it, this is.
It sounds like they have like five attorneys that are looking at filing class action lawsuits.
You have at least documented proof that on this day, your well with water was fine and you were healthy.
And the other thing, you know, you have to do is hold the politician's feet to the fire on this.
Look, fix the problem.
These people didn't ask for this to happen in East Palestine.
It happened.
Yes.
Make them home.
Fix the problem.
Exactly.
And, you know, so thank you so much for joining us today.
We really appreciate your insight.
Now, for those who are, their homes are Palestine, what would you recommend for them, aside from getting checked first, so they have a baseline, getting their well water checked, as far as location, would you suggest that they find somewhere to stay for a few weeks and then come back and rebuild?
Or do you believe this is something that could be potentially dangerous for a very long time?
Is it worth it?
What do you recommend?
If you're suffering from COPD, asthma, emphysema, anything like that, and you're having effects, go someplace else for a while.
I suggest everybody deep clean your home because these are organic chemicals.
They leave a film.
And in that film is all the other chemicals that came with it.
So wash your walls down, clean everything down, wash your curtains.
If you can afford to get your rug scrubbed, scrub your rugs.
Clean all your clothing that was left in the house before you left.
Clean everything, deep clean everything, because there is where these little chemicals that may or may not be there will reside.
And now you're not talking about an acute exposure, the big plume clot.
You're talking about being exposed to anything that could potentially be there over a long period of time.
And do get your home checked.
It's Norfolk Southern's problem.
They created the problem.
Make them fix it.
Get your house checked.
Okay.
So we will be following up with this and we'll be in touch.
Thank you so much for coming on.
We really appreciate your insight.
You stay safe out there, okay?
Thank you.
You too, ma'am.
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*Gunshot* Welcome back to the Stu Peters Show.
I'm Lauren Witzke, filling in for Stu.
Now, you know, we've been covering the Palestine, Ohio train derailment incident.
It's been an absolute tragedy.
We've been talking to people who are about 20 miles away and further from the actual incident.
Today, we have Candace De La Rosa with us today.
She is one mile away from where the train tipped over, and she has provided exclusive footage from a doorbell A camera that caught the train when it happened.
check this out.
The water is up to 50 miles per hour despite having hazardous materials on it.
Usually, trains that have hazardous materials are required to go 30 miles per hour, but as you can see in the video, it was going much faster.
It was allowed to happen because there was one Like I said, Candace De La Rosa, she is one mile away from where the train tipped over and...
This is a call to help.
Hi, Candace.
Thank you so much for coming on today.
Now, what is going on there?
Are you able to drink the water?
Do you smell it in the air?
I know you were close, but it seems that nobody's sending you any aid.
Is that true?
They claim that the water is safe to drink.
However, I personally am not drinking the water or even bathing my children in the water because I'm absolutely I think we have a lot of people who are terrified because they say the water is safe to drink last night or yesterday at a 1 p.m.
press conference that really half of the residents of East Palestine didn't even know was occurring by Governor Mike DeWine.
And they said the water is safe and then when they asked for details about that news reporter, they said, oh, we'll have the results in two days.
So is the water safe or is it not?
Yeah, and you saw some of the cleanup that's happening.
It appears they just kind of threw a tarp over it and hoped for the best after creating a catastrophe and blowing it into the air.
What have you seen as far as the cleanup goes or cleanup?
I hate to call it that.
So what they said they were going to do was do a controlled burn because there was a possibility of a catastrophic explosion which could send shrapnel up to a mile away.
So what they did was they dug a trench and they went in there and these pictures you'll see it where it looks like almost a Chernobyl type cloud that went into the sky.
They actually went in there and did that purposely.
They punctured those containers.
All of the chemicals supposedly went into this trench and were burned off.
They promised, Governor Mike DeWine, that they would be here till the end to clean it up.
Basically, all that was done was dirt was covered over it.
And the number one goal was to get those trains rolling again because it's profit at all costs.
It was not even 30 seconds after they lifted the evacuation of my town that trains were up and running through this town flying once again.
So basically, there's been no cleanup.
The EPA actually has read a letter to Norfolk Southern who is not returning any of the newscaster's comments as I see and they are holding them liable and the EPA is supposed to go in and clean it up.
And actually, our city was declared a Superfund site as of yesterday.
So we earlier on the show had a former fire chief from your area.
He was from Youngstown.
He was telling us, you know, the narrative has changed.
First, they were like, the water's fine.
And then the governor stated, oh, maybe you should drink bottled water.
You know, later, like they're kind of just making decisions, putting out information that they don't even know is true.
Like you said, you won't even bathe your children.
And I don't blame you because this just happened less than a mile away from you.
And we saw the sky.
Everybody saw the sky.
We have reports all the way in Pennsylvania of people that are smelling the chlorine It smells like plastic is in the air.
Their asthma is starting to flare up.
Like, this is very real.
It's happening.
Now, I know that you are very close, and you aren't getting any help to get out or evacuate.
A lot of people can't afford to evacuate.
You know, it's just a small town, a simple town.
And what are you going to do?
Well, you know, the thing of it is, is that I, after the train derailment, I sheltered in place because there wasn't much information.
You know, they had no manifesto for the train.
It took us four to five days to even find out was on that train.
And me and my family left.
I'm a mother of five boys.
We ended up leaving when the National Guard came knocking on our door.
And Governor Mike DeWine actually announced that if parents stayed in their homes in that mile radius, that we could actually be charged with child neglect and taking jail.
And at that time, I mean, we are low-income families here.
We work and we live paycheck to paycheck.
People did not want to leave.
They wanted out of here.
They said they had to call the National Guard because people refused to leave.
No, people didn't have the means to leave.
And now, I'm they have an assistance center set up and they are reimbursing folks but they're also offering this uh uh uh inconvenience check right and my big problem with this is I know they're giving it to some and denying others I feel that we were mandated to leave our homes that were unsafe and that check should be given to every resident in east policy in Ohio not to just some and Not
to others.
You can't pick and choose in a situation like this.
This was a catastrophic event.
It is devastating to me.
I have lived in this town and in my actual home that I sit in right now since I was eight years old.
And I love this home.
That's why I've been in it for so many years.
And I want to leave.
I want to walk out of here with my children on my hips and the clothes on my back and never come back.
And it absolutely breaks my heart.
This was a tight-knit community that has been ruined by a large corporation that cares about profit at all costs.
It's true.
And the people get left behind.
Now, we will put Candace's give-son go.
She is looking to get out of there for a little while, take care of her family, take care of her kids, protect her kids by taking a little leave from her hometown that she grew up in simply because we don't know what's going on because nobody is telling really the truth and the goalposts keep moving.
And it could be weeks before we finally find out.
Oh, hey, by the way, This was really dangerous.
You shouldn't have even touched the water.
You shouldn't have been within a 50-mile radius of this.
And we just don't know.
And that's the thing.
They have no problem sending billions and billions of dollars over to Ukraine or any foreign countries when our people need help.
Oh, sorry.
Can't help you.
Now, in this footage that you sent me, it appears...
Okay, so you hear the bang.
You watch it going really, really high speed.
You saw it going fast.
You hear the bang and you see it blow up.
And then it tipped over.
You know, it seems very fishy.
The whole thing almost seems like it was orchestrated.
The cover-up, the fact that the mainstream media isn't covering it is extremely concerning as well because I feel like we're all left in the dark.
What do you think happened?
Well, from my understanding, there is video footage of a town that is wedged on the outskirts of Akron, Ohio, to see this train sparking.
They have also caught video surveillance of the train going through Salem with seemingly the bottom of about seven of these cars literally on fire.
Salem is about 20 miles away from East Palestine.
So from my understanding, these railroad Tracks have sensors on them every 20 miles.
So if this was supposedly sparking in Akron, Ohio, which for me is almost an hour and a half drive, and was on fire in Salem, which is about 20 minutes or 20 miles away, and then they catch it again in New Waterford on fire,
At what point this conductor had to be alerted multiple times since the train started sparking, and from what they're saying is an axle went bad, but I just don't understand.
Everybody wants to say it was an accident.
An accident happened, but when a train is on fire for 45 minutes going down the track at 50 miles per hour, and then they hit the brake and the axle breaks, I'm assuming that the train cars started to deteriorate because they were on fire for 45 minutes.
Right.
Yeah, and you can see in the footage that there is fire.
It lights up as the train is passing by.
Now, you did see that they were just throwing tarps over it.
And I was told by a fire chief earlier, he was a specialist in hazardous materials, the way they handled it was terrible.
But the end goal was to get those trains right back on, keep it going because it's all about profits instead of people.
But we also, he also said, you know, the way they handled it was absolutely wrong.
It was absolutely poorly handled.
And it was dangerous what they did.
And he said that the people in the city need to get health checks.
You need to get your water checked now because that way you have a baseline when you have a lawsuit because you do have a lawsuit coming and you have a fight ahead.
But, you know, you need to make sure you take care.
It's not worth it to get cancer first.
You know what I'm saying?
So he's encouraging people within the town to go ahead and get a medical checkup, if you can afford it, to kind of have a baseline for future lawsuits because the cleanup has been messy.
We saw it in the sky.
I mean, they literally blew it in the sky and it's getting blown.
We're watching as acid rain, it seems like acid rain is falling on cars and tearing up the paint off of cars.
Why on earth would we want to expose ourselves to that?
It's very, very dangerous.
Now, Candace, thank you so much for joining us today.
Where are you going to go?
Are you just waiting to see what's going to happen?
We're going to help you raise some money to get out of there.
You can donate to Candice in the link below.
Make sure you throw her $5.
Help them get out, get a hotel for a few weeks until we can figure out what's going on.
You plan on getting out, right, once you raise the money?
Yes, and the sad thing is right now, I don't have anywhere to go.
This is my home, and I feel that Deep inside of myself that I'm slowly poisoning my children.
And it's just absolutely devastating to me.
You can only live in a hotel for so long.
So for right now, I am stuck here.
But plan on leaving this area as soon as I possibly am able to.
Okay.
Well, we're going to do everything we can to help you.
Thank you for the footage.
Thank you for coming on.
And thank you for your time.
And God bless you.
And we will bring you back on for an update.
If there's any more updates, please reach out to us and let us know, okay?
Yes, thank you so very much.
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Now you're seeing it everywhere.
UFOs.
It's all over the news.
This past Sunday in Michigan, another unidentified object was shot down.
It was allegedly octagon-shaped.
It didn't have any surveillance equipment to it that they could tell, but they still shot it down saying it was like, absolutely, you have to do it right now.
There was no rubbish found.
There was nothing found on the ground, according to the DOD. Now, we really want to know what's going on here.
We actually were predicted.
It was predicted last year that this was going to become the next chaotic event.
Now, Blaine Pardo is the author of Confederacy of Fear.
Very appropriate.
And he is a New York Times bestselling author.
And he's here to join us now to give us a little insight on what's going on.
UFOs, Blaine?
Like, what is going on here?
You know, I don't subscribe to the concept that they truly are unidentified flying objects, but that doesn't mean aliens from outer space.
Right.
Now, what we're seeing here are tests of U.S. sovereignty.
We're seeing tests of our defense systems and response capabilities, etc.
And they're using a very low-tech solution.
You know, simple balloons to be able to float surveillance gear, etc.
over the U.S. and seeing how we will respond to that.
And do you think we have failed or passed this test?
Because I'm not feeling too optimistic after they let a quote-unquote spy balloon float over all the way to Montana from the Pacific Ocean and just nobody saw it until somebody posted it on TikTok that was on the ground.
I'm not too optimistic about what I'm seeing here.
What do you think?
I'm not either.
First of all, they came back and said, well, this has been going on for a while.
And I said, well, my first reaction was, why?
Why were we allowing this?
I mean, the minute these things entered U.S. airspace and we were tracking them, we should have responded with force.
If a civilian hadn't filmed the one over Montana, I don't think it would have actually been responded to by the military, which is frightening all on its own.
I think that You know, we have seen these things come over our airspace and we've seen the military now overreact or are still in many cases underreact.
They're not addressing them as they come into the airspace.
They're waiting until they're over the UP of Michigan, over, you know, Canada or over Alaska.
And that's when they're responding to these things.
And I'm like, you know, the minute these enter our airspace, we should be demonstrating a willingness to defend our nation's airspace and border.
But we're not doing that.
And, you know, the fact that these things are shooting down and now they're trying to downplay them.
Well, they could be civilian or they could be an experiment or whatever.
I don't care.
They don't belong over our cities.
And I think what the military really botched with the one that came from China, the first one that we found out about was they said, well, we're going to shoot her down over Montana.
It might hurt someone.
But they let it fly all the way across the country.
At any point, this flimsy balloon could have collapsed, had a catastrophic failure, dropped down a major city, killed any number of people.
But they let it fly all the way across the country before they responded to it.
So is it aliens?
Probably not.
Is it incompetence on the part of NORAD? Absolutely.
It really was a demonstration of the Biden administration's failure to respond to emergency situations.
What if this was an EMP attack per se?
We would have failed miserably.
And it's because they decided not to act right away.
And it was very concerning to see because I'm not optimistic about the safety of this country because we're watching as this all happens.
We're watching unidentified objects, space balloons coming down, and it's like they don't have an urgency to act.
And you know, I was super concerned when they said that you're not going to be able to find any of the rubble on the ground.
You know, they've shot it down, but we're not going to have anything to show for it.
We can't tell you what it is.
We're not going to tell you what it is.
Essentially, when you know daggum well, they probably know what it is.
You know, very bizarre, octagon-shaped, unidentified object.
Like, you know, people want to know.
And this is either, like, government experiments or experiments.
Like, they tried to say it was civilian.
Like, yeah, right.
Like, it's not like some human-built saucer that's flying around.
But also, they weaponize the fear, too.
It was on every news source.
You were seeing, oh my gosh, the UFOs are here.
And what that does is it implements fear.
And then people turn to their government, oh, well, my government will save me because I'm scared.
I don't know what's going on.
They keep you in the dark on purpose.
And that's what I feel like they do in order to keep us scared.
Because we don't really know what's going on, so we have to just rely on our government and trust our government to make the right decisions.
You know, and that's a scary feeling, especially now.
Now, what can we find in your book?
You know, you had discussed about the Confederacy of Fear.
And, you know, that's kind of what this goes into, is how, like, you know, they weaponized fear in the media.
In social influencers, they even purchased advertising through social influencers during COVID to keep that fear up, keep it engaged, because if they don't have the fear, they don't have control.
And if you have to keep your people scared, you're not a real leader.
What do you think?
I agree.
In COVID, you have every right to believe what you did because look at what they did with COVID. They literally had neighbors turning in neighbors for going out and mowing their lawn.
I never thought we'd see that East German Stasi kind of feel to it where we had Americans turning on Americans, but I got confronted in a Walmart for not walking the right way down an aisle that I was the only person in.
We literally have reached a point where our lack of confidence is merited because we've seen what the American response is from the leadership.
Biden came out with his first balloon, and I think everybody's glossed over this.
He told the military on Wednesday to shoot it down.
This is when it was over Montana.
They refused.
He's the commander in chief.
I'm sorry.
Any other president would have given the order, and when they said, no, we're not going to do it, would say, okay, you're fired.
The next guy will do it.
And somebody told me, well, this would have happened under Trump, too.
And I said, they wouldn't have launched the balloons if Donald Trump were president.
It's true.
Wouldn't have happened.
And you have to worry about these low-tech solutions.
That they're employing, be it the Chinese, the Russians, or whoever's putting these up.
And at this point, if I was in North Korea, I'd be sitting here with a tank of helium, filling up balloons and sending old cars over just to prove that I could.
You know, if they move on Taiwan, do you think they won't launch 10,000 balloons ahead of the attack and let them drift over our borders just so that we're focused on Dealing with that threat while they're off doing something else.
And I realize that's fictional, but is it possible?
Yeah, it actually is.
Yeah, and it's concerning that the U.S. military has been so empowered that they feel like they can tell our president no.
Now, even during the BLM riots back in 2019, 2020, President Trump wanted to send in the National Guard.
He wanted to shut them down as they were tearing down our historical monuments, trashing our cities and burning small businesses.
And General Milley said no.
Screw you.
I'm not doing it.
They are now seem to be very rogue.
And we're watching that as well as our military is being just destroyed.
The Pentagon allowed it to be purged through vaccine mandates.
And now you can be identify as whatever you want.
You can be severely mentally ill.
And it's it's like our government, our military has gone rogue.
And, you know, in the fact that they can tell a president of the United States, no.
That should concern everybody, because it seems that they're making decisions themselves, and I'm watching the direction our military is going, and I can't really say that I'm optimistic about that either.
You know, and it's like you said, you know, if I was North Korea, I'd be sending over balloons right now just to see how long we let it go, because we've just been letting it happen.
And, you know, if it were Russia, we would have known.
They would be like, oh, Pootler sent the balloon over here, but, you know, we...
We just don't know.
That's the thing.
They just said it was a Chinese balloon, but we really don't know.
And they waited to respond.
They are good at sowing seeds of distrust to the point where we no longer have faith in our military.
I'm 60 years old.
I never thought I would feel this way about our military.
But after the debacle of coming out of Afghanistan and what happened there, and not a single person, by the way, was ever held accountable for that Horrible withdrawal.
That is what triggered Putin's invasion of Ukraine.
And we know that's what's going to trigger the invasion of Taiwan.
It is going to happen.
And people can smell that we're not focused on our warfighting.
You know, there's a finite amount of hours that are available to train our soldiers, sailors, and airmen every year to do what they need to do.
And it's war fighting.
That's what we need them to do.
We're spending it on proper use of personal pronouns, how to identify potential extremists, You know, how to make sure people aren't offended by what you do and be accepting, pushing diversity, pushing inclusiveness, where we're elevating people to positions not based on their merit, not based on their skill, their competency or their experience, but based on what boxes we can check off on some social agenda.
And we've seen this with the Secretary of Transportation.
You know, we've seen it with the White House communications person.
You know, you can check all the boxes you want, but in the end, it really matters that you have someone who's actually competent in doing their job.
And we're looking weaker every day.
And if you think about it, China's been able to prove how weak we are with a relatively inexpensive balloon experiment.
Right.
And it was, look at the chaos we caused with just that.
Look how the government or the military refused to respond.
They told the president, no, that country is a mess.
They're ready for invasion.
They're ready for us to come in and take over.
You know, this isn't some conspiracy theory.
We're watching it happen.
Had President Trump been in office, yes, those balloons would have never, they wouldn't even tried it.
There would be no invasion in Ukraine.
There wouldn't have been a botched Afghanistan withdrawal.
You know, Trump was planning an Afghanistan withdrawal.
He fully supported bringing our troops home, ending this endless war, and, you know, really just rebuilding America.
But, you know, and that was his plan.
But the way Biden did it was just chaos.
We left Americans there.
People really got hurt.
And we just kind of botched that whole thing.
We've done nothing but show our weakness over and over as we send billions and billions of dollars to foreign countries while our own is facing an environmental crisis out in Ohio.
Those people aren't getting even food delivered to them by the Red Cross.
They're not getting information.
And we seem like we are a nation in chaos.
And I think that's how it's intended to be.
It's supposed to be chaos.
You're not supposed to really know what's going on.
You don't really know the rules because that keeps you trusting the government or hoping that you can trust your government.
And so you believe that we are going to end up invading Taiwan.
Is that correct?
Well, we're not going to invade Taiwan.
I definitely believe the Chinese are going to.
There's no indications I've seen that they're not planning on making a move to Taiwan.
And the question is, will the U.S. have the resolve or the intestinal fortitude to assist or defend or in some way try to impede this?
You've got to bear in mind, the Chinese don't have to do a lot.
They could blockade Taiwan.
Taiwan's only got about 30 days worth of Energy on the island.
After that, they don't have power.
And if they don't have power, the military will fall apart.
They don't have extreme stockpiles of food there or whatever.
All China's got to do is blockade them and hold out for a month.
And what you're seeing is with President Biden is you have a leader that has no solid strategy when it comes to anything.
I mean, we've gotten into Ukraine.
No one can explain to me.
Anyone I talk to in the military can explain to me what our strategy in Ukraine is and how do we get out of it?
You know, the only thing that they have going is, well, if Putin loses, then we can come out of there.
Well, you know, I don't think Russia's going to lose against Ukraine in a war.
Yeah, and you know, it would have been over a long time ago had we not kept funding it, too.
Had we not kept dumping billions and billions of dollars into Ukraine, that war would have ended.
A lot more lives would have been saved.
And, you know, Zelensky is still even saying Things like, oh, you guys aren't supporting us enough as we are in a recession facing a crisis, invasions of our own, and, you know, we're still not doing enough.
And I don't think there is a strategy or a way out.
They aren't even sure where 70% of the foreign aid money is going because only 30% of it is going to Ukraine after everything's done with it.
I feel like it might just be a laundering dump, you know, before the economic collapse of America because it's not looking too good over here either.
And, you know, it's just so corrupt.
Everything has become so corrupt.
I don't know how we can reverse course and, like, you know, restore.
This isn't the America I grew up in.
This isn't the America I grew up in.
Even Bill Clinton was a better president than Joe Biden.
He just was.
I mean, aside from NAFTA, we won't talk about that.
But, you know, like, that's the thing.
It was a peaceful, loving country where people loved their country.
And now what they did during COVID was not only did they make people hate, well, between BLM and COVID, they made people hate each other.
They made their country seem like it's racist.
It's not inclusive and that you have to be gay or a person of color in order to succeed in this world.
Because if you're a white, straight person, you know, you already had the privilege.
You know, if you were a part of the founding stock of America, you're privileged.
You don't deserve anything.
No matter how hard you work, we are at a disadvantage, I feel like.
And, you know, it's just a divided country.
And that was intentional.
You know, we are a divided country who has learned to hate each other.
And then during COVID, they made us lose our humanity.
That's the thing.
Like, you know, we're checking others' vaccine cards.
Like, if you're not vaccinated, you're not going to come in and eat at this restaurant.
A family with a father with young children was kicked out of a New York pizzeria.
Because he didn't have his vaccine card.
You know, rocking the wrong way at a grocery store.
You know, you're killing grandma.
And it's just killed humanity.
We locked our elderly away in nursing homes and left them to die.
Old American tradition of taking care of our elderly has died.
And, you know, I'm watching as my country dies.
Do you think we can come back from this?
And how can we come back from this?
You know, what they've done is try to make patriotism bad.
And patriotism is what makes America great, is your love of your country and your belief in this country.
And, you know, with the border crisis, the one thing I'm comfortable about the border crisis is those people are coming here because they recognize our country.
Is the best place on the planet for them to raise their families.
And if they were coming here legally, God, I would support that so much because that's really what it is.
They're recrafting the American dream to say America's history is bad.
Everything that we've done in the past is bad.
Our national anthem is wrong.
We need to change the flag.
They are so anti-American in every way, shape, and form.
But I think it's that sense of the American dream and the patriotism we all have deep down inside of us.
That's going to be the saving grace for this country.
We have to find a way to tap that.
And I think with this election coming up, we actually have a shot at that.
It's easy to take shots at the Biden administration.
God, they make it easy every day.
But what we really need to do is start painting a picture of how things could be better if we were in charge.
What's our vision for the country?
And when the right does that, and we saw this with Trump, with Make America Great Again.
We've seen it with Reagan.
When the right paints the proper picture of how the country could be and sets your ideals for those things, it makes it so that people get excited about it and they embrace their patriotism again.
Question for you.
Yeah, it's true, and I absolutely agree 110%.
They have basically all but criminalized patriotism, essentially.
So it's looking like the presidential primary for the Republican Party is getting quite crowded.
Are you seeing any good prospects that you would show up and vote for at this point?
First of all, it's too early.
I supported Trump both times.
I'll be the first person to say there are times I wish he would just shut up.
Okay?
You know, he needs to focus on his vision and his accomplishments and not so much go on the attack of fellow Republicans.
The Republican Party has always been able to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
They need to, whoever the candidate is, unite behind that candidate.
And I mean that across the board.
And if it's Trump, they need to get on board that Donald Trump's our guy and not have these holdouts that want to simply try to undermine him at every step of the way.
It's true.
If you're going to run somebody against Trump, you gotta expect it because that's just how he plays the game.
You know, and I'll give it to Ted Cruz in 2016.
He was a good sport.
Like, you know, he named him Lying Ted, and he still rallied behind President Trump because he was their candidate.
And that's the way the Republican Party needs to be.
We need to get all in.
This isn't a fundraising operation and competition.
Our country is at stake.
Our future is at stake.
And, you know, this is the way forward is to unite and join forces and really just take down this regime.
Blaine, where can people find your book?
The first place you can go, obviously, is Amazon.com.
Or you can go to Barnes& Noble and have them order it.
They're capable of doing that.
It'll take you longer than going to Amazon to do it.
The series that I've written, Blue Dawn, is about the progressive overthrow of the government and the people who rise up to fight and take it back through a second American Civil War.
So it's a conservative political thriller.
It's a lot of fun.
But I've written a lot of books.
I've written a lot of military history.
And I write a lot of science fiction stuff.
So, you know, there's a lot for you to look at.
Just look me up on Amazon.
All right, Blaine, thank you so much for coming on.
New York Times bestseller, folks, on The Stu Peter Show.
Very cool.
Make sure you check out his book, Confederacy of Fear.
Blaine, until next time, thanks for joining.
Thank you very much.
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