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AMERICAN DOCTORS CAUGHT CENSORING EUROPEAN EXPERTS
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Thank you.
Thank you.
For a conference in Sweden on COVID pandemic strategies entitled Lessons and Consequences.
The usual suspects were there, but the meeting turned particularly ugly when pathologist Ryan Cole tried to shut down researcher Dr.
Astrid Stuckelberger as she attempted to lay out the plans of the World Health Organization and the Bill Gates Foundation dastardly plans.
But there was far more to the story as we would learn.
Far more.
And a physician in the audience witnessed it all.
He's here tonight to tell us the story.
This is the Dr.
Jane Ruby show and you're about to enter truth in medicine.
Looking at the vials, I want people to, and again, people can disagree and this is fine, but from what we've looked at, there are no nanochips that are available.
There is absolutely no graphene oxide.
Hundreds of vials we've looked at.
I'm sorry, I agree!
You don't have to agree, but clinical chemo...
Wait, wait, wait.
Well, no, I know this is ethical to have a disagreement.
I said I respect that you did a beautiful presentation.
No, no, no, this is a great.
I've worked at the microscope for 26 years and seen 500,000.
You're not an expert of nanoparticles and of oxide graphene.
You cannot be an expert of that part.
So I don't understand.
We have to work together with the experts.
We agree on the freedom movement.
I agree.
No, no, no.
That's not true.
Because it's not useful to our cause to put the airings out there.
And that's why 99 is not relevant.
It's not my sport.
Welcome to the Dr. J.
Jane Ruby Show on this Monday, January 30th, 2023.
I'm glad you're with me tonight.
Well, what you just saw was Dr.
Ryan Cole and Dr.
Astrid Stuckelberger at a Swedish conference last week, and I'll let you make up your own mind as to what you just witnessed.
But we'll get into some of the backstory.
Well, last week, as I said, there was this conference called the International Conference on COVID Pandemic, and it was held at the Stockholm Waterfront Congress Center.
The particular session where things turned exciting was called Pandemic Strategies Lessons and Consequences.
The meeting garnered more attention than it probably wanted.
Where at the end, Dr.
Astrid Stuckelberger, a Swedish researcher, was trying to give her presentation.
She was on the schedule at the end.
We do have a copy, by the way, of the program, so we can flash that.
She's on the second page at the bottom.
We may flash that for you a couple of times.
But anyway, she was trying to give her presentation and she went into some areas that apparently some of the American frontline doctors and some others there didn't like.
She was trying to explain, as it's been told to me, the connections Across the Gates Foundation, Bill Gates and his vaccines and the role of lipid nanoparticles and graphene oxide in this worldwide mass genocide.
She was immediately shut down.
People started to scream and yell.
Her microphone was shut off to the shock of the audience.
Now, you have to remember, that's some pretty credible people, by the way, have already come forth over the last 18 to 24 months with evidence from their microscopes, like Dr.
Zandre Botha, Dr.
Philippe van Welbergen, Dr.
Arna Burkhardt, who was also in attendance at this Swedish meeting, and document experts like Dr.
David Martin and Karen Kingston to support materials in the shots across all of the companies That are making them.
Now, before we get to the larger story and our guest tonight, who was a witness at the meeting and at this session, I wanted to report that there was a huge backlash on my reporting over in Twitter land.
So, instead of debating the facts, the science, the points, Ryan Cole chose instead to attack me personally.
And I want to show you something.
I want to show you picture one that we have here for you.
Picture one, if you put that alongside of me, my producer, you'll see a tweet that Ryan Cole posted at 1228 a.m.
on January 28th at First, you know, early in the morning.
And it says, replying to at real Dr.
Jane Ruby, you are screwed up or drunk.
I call out the dangerous lipid nanoparticles all the time.
What everyone pretends to be graphene and nanobots are cholesterol, sugar, and salt crystals.
Yes, there are metal contaminants.
Now...
I just want you to understand something.
I was asking him a scientific question.
Secondly, he's never produced a report or a peer-reviewed journal publication of any analysis that would have resulted in to justify his claim that what all these other scientists around the world have seen are cholesterol, sugar, and salt crystals.
Let's remember that he was the one Because he didn't act, I had to go to Mike Adams who did do an analysis and ruled out amyloid, sugar, salt crystals, cholesterol, human tissue, blood vessel tissue.
Okay.
And then I want to show you picture number two.
Please put that alongside of me.
You may not be able to read everything in the small print, but someone sent me a montage of the responses to Dr.
Cole from his own followers on Twitter and some of the other Twitter rottweilers.
Instead of answering my question, let me just first read to you After he says, you are screwed up or drunk.
That's not how you respond to a fellow scientist.
And then it's always the ad hominem attacks.
You're this, or you're that, or you're not a scientist, like he's supposed to be insulting me.
Hasn't obviously looked at my credentials that I've posted many times online.
But his own followers say things like, I think you're an idiot.
Smarter people than you know better.
Another person said to Dr.
Cole, very sad to see this.
You have been Very courageous for a long time now, and you have everything to lose, which makes this sacrifice all the more powerful.
And a third, and there were countless, by the way, and a third who said, quote, you are screwed up or drunk.
Quote, dash, Dr.
Ryan Cole, how unprofessional and horribly disrespectful.
What Dr.
Cole did not do was he did not answer My questions, like why he sat on the Hirschman clots for 12 weeks starting in January of 2022, which prompted Mr.
Hirschman to call me because he was frustrated and ask for help, which then prompted me to get Mike Adams involved.
And you know the rest of the story as I broke the worldwide story on the white fibrous clots.
Over 2 million views already on Rumble, and almost 5 million views worldwide.
But his direct denial and attempt to change history by saying that he analyzed, quote, hundreds of vials?
Hundreds of vials?
Okay, and he didn't find any lipid nanoparticles or graphene oxide?
So therefore, And first of all, as Dr.
Stuckelberger said, he's not an expert in lipid nanoparticles and graphene oxide.
So therefore, what he's claiming is if he analyzed hundreds, like to know the chain of custody on that, how did you get them?
Were they sealed?
Was the temperature maintained in dry ice?
How did you warm them?
Did you warm them?
Did you look at them below zero or above zero?
Was it room temperature?
Was it body temperature?
But nevertheless, you can't say the entire universe of vials from across all these companies, of which there are millions, must be devoid of these elements as well, just because you didn't find them in hundreds of vials.
Okay?
Here's a picture sent to me by an attendee at the conference.
I have not corroborated this picture with Dr.
Cole or anyone else in his group.
But the sender claims that Dr.
Cole was seated at a microscope at the Swedish meeting where someone was attempting to show him the existence of the lipid nanoparticles and the graphene evidence.
Take a look at that.
And what we have here, we're going to see this picture actually again of him sitting there at the meeting.
You can see the screen.
We will see that picture again in the second segment with Dr.
Dormer, our guest tonight.
So, going on.
Tonight I have an eyewitness physician, Dr.
Glenn Dormer, who will be joining me in a few minutes.
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Well, Glenn Dormer was born in 1957 in Montreal.
He received his Bachelor of Life Sciences and BA Honors Psychology from Queen's University, his MSW from the Wilfrid Laurier University, And his MD from Uppsala University, and I believe that's in Europe.
He will clarify that for us.
Glenn is married and has four children living in Sweden.
He was dismissed from his medical clinic in November of 2020 for refusing to wear a face mask, according to the National COVID-19 Narrative.
During the summer of 2021, Dr.
Dormer and a group of like-minded truth and freedom activists traveled town to town in Sweden spreading the truth about the dangers of these bioweapon shots, I call them, so-called vaccines, and about the planned digital, economic, and social slavery system for the world.
And I'm proud to say Dr.
Dormer joins me now on the show.
Dr.
Dormer, great to see you in person and welcome to the show.
Thanks.
Nice to be here, Jane.
Yeah.
That was a great background.
I wanted people to understand that you are a trained physician, you are experienced, and you have been at the forefront of this, you know, pandemic hoax.
You know, I call it a mass genocide operation, and we're going to get into a lot of that.
But one of the main reasons I wanted you on the show was because, as we know, last week there was this conference in Sweden, and it was the...
Like a pandemic update with some of the usual suspects from here in America that seem to be controlling a lot of the narratives.
And we saw a very startling video of a researcher, Dr.
Astrid Stuckelberger, very well respected, who apparently was on stage at the beginning of the show.
I will tell you, Dr.
Dormer, that We open the show with that 30-second clip where she actually walks up to Dr.
Ryan Cole who's an American pathologist who was at the podium and who was actually saying something very unusual to a lot of us which was the fact that he was expressing his findings supposedly that there is no such thing as the lipid nanoparticles And the graphene oxide.
Well, I have a tremendous amount of history with both of those as well as many doctors and experts around the world.
But I wanted to start by asking you to tell us in terms of what your connection was to the conference and what you were doing there and tell me from the beginning what happened according to your observations.
It was a two-day conference in Stockholm.
There were about 16 speakers.
It went from 10 o'clock on the Saturday and ended around maybe 6.30 in the evening on Sunday.
So it was a pretty long conference.
There were 16.
The first 15 speakers, there were people like Robert Malone and Azeem Mohaltra and Ryan Cole.
And they were good.
They were giving us information.
The people had paid between 1,000 and 1,500 crowns each for a ticket, which is quite a reasonable amount of money, but there were about 1,050 people there.
And the first 15 speakers were what you expect at these conferences.
You see, as you said, there's many faces and people, individuals that seem to come up at many conferences around the world.
And it was a normal conference and it gave some insight into what's happened and the fakery that we've been exposed to.
And then when we came to the last speaker, her name is Astrid Stuckelberger, as you named.
She started about 15 to 20 minutes late.
And Dr.
Dormer, can I just add for the public, because we have a copy of the program and I just want to say, yes, she's at the end and may I read The title of her talk, before you lay out the rest of it, her talk was called, From Biology to Population, colon, Evidence-Based Public Health Lessons and Next Steps.
Okay, go ahead.
A very appropriate title because what she did, she was supposed to have approximately 45 minutes and she, in her first 15 minutes of this 45 minutes, it was pretty well, she explained that she used to work for the WHO. And that around 2011-13 that she saw that the WHO was no longer an NGO that was trying to help good health around the world rather that they had become a part of this as
a gear in this machine taking us into a new world order.
So she left the WHO And she started to investigate further.
She's written several books, as far as I can understand.
I haven't read any of them personally yet.
And she's done over 100 scientific papers about epidemiology, about virus pandemics.
And so she's very well insat into what we experienced beginning in January of 2020.
So if I just try to summarize in as few words as possible.
And let me just say, you have time.
So please don't feel rushed.
Don't feel under pressure to lay out the story.
We have plenty of time.
Okay.
Yeah.
So she started about 15 to 20 minutes late.
I think it was about 10 to 5 by the time she finally took the stage.
She was supposed to be there at half past four.
After only two-thirds of her talk, so after roughly, I didn't time this on my watch or a time clock, but at about 30 minutes of her 45-minute speech, the hostess of the meeting who had introduced her tried to get her off stage, and she turned and said very politely, I have to get this out.
I have to say this.
And after about two more minutes, the Lekker Öpropet, the group of doctors in Sweden which were promoting this conference towards truth and freedom, he went up on stage and says, I'm really sorry, but we're running back behind schedule, so we're going to have to curtail us.
And many in the public, about a third, started clapping, saying, Astrid, Astrid, Astrid.
Wow.
Because what had happened is after her first 15 minutes, which were quite predictable, she talked about the WHO and how it had changed and why she had left it.
And then in the second 15 minutes of her speech, I was Beside myself because here was a person who had very much experience of the WHO speaking honestly about the plan from 2019, 20, 21, 22, 23, up to 24.
And she was putting it up in her so-called slides which were on big screens behind her and she was showing in detail What the plan is to get us into this digital, social, and economic slavery.
And I was like leaning forward and thinking, Fantastic.
800 people are seeing the whole truth.
Yes.
And I was saying to the person to the left of me and the person, my wife was sitting on one side of me and another person, another.
And I said, she's, in English, we call it speaking out of school.
Here's a person who's been vetted and she's spoken at many other conferences where she goes with Ryan Cole and Malone and all these other people and gives little, you know, sort of like a little bit of...
Out of the periphery what the truth is.
But here this woman, this Astrid, took the whole picture.
She gave the whole picture of where the World Health Organization as a gear in this new world order wants to take the world.
Not just Sweden, not just US, but the whole world.
Are you saying that a lot of the people in the audience, I make the naive assumption very often that because I've been doing this so long and getting the word out in various aspects, and that many of us have, that most people know, but are you saying that this audience, like that, and was this televised?
In other words, is this getting to people that have never heard of this before?
All 16 speakers' speeches are promised to be released.
I haven't seen Except for the altercation between Ryan Cole and...
Yeah, before we get to that, let me ask you this.
So how long was Dr.
Stuckelberger allowed to speak?
I heard 30 minutes from somebody.
Is that true?
That's probably my...
I didn't time it, but it was shorter than basically all the other...
They used the reason of there was a bus waiting for them to take them back to the hotel, which was about 20 o'clock.
And so eventually she complied, but she resisted enough to get a lot out.
Is that correct?
She got about two-thirds of her presentation explained, and she had about 11 slides left, which she never got to say.
And as she was basically, not physically, but verbally being forced to sit down, she said, I don't think that we should...
Dismiss out of hand the possibility of graphene oxide.
I personally, I don't know whether there is or there is not graphene oxide.
I know, Jane Ruby, that you've done many exposés, very well could be, and that there are labs, several labs around the world, of supposedly objective researchers that have found graphene oxide.
And some other labs.
But myself, when I was watching what happened to Astrid being forced off stage, I wasn't thinking about the word graphene oxide at all.
What I was reacting to, we'll get to that obviously very shortly, I was reacting to the fact that she was being shortened.
She had around 45 minutes, was on the program, 40 or 45 minutes, and they cut her off at about 30.
And I believe it's because of the beautiful, truthful things she said in the middle of, in the second part of her three-part speech.
Yeah, absolutely.
That's the suspicion.
Well, that was my next question.
Well, first of all, does anybody have a copy of that 30 minute that she was able to get out?
There were some so-called independent alternative media stations there from Sweden that recorded all the speeches.
So there are copies of this, as well as the coordinator for the whole conference.
He has said that he's going to release all the speeches, but so far we haven't seen one minute of her speech.
We need those independent, one of those independent copies, because the other ones are going to get scrubbed.
So the first time anybody, and this is for the audience in general, the first time anybody sees it, if it gets ripped up to BitChute or Odyssey or anything, or appears on one of those Swedish whatever stations, Please send it to me at my ProtonMail, drjainruby at ProtonMail.
We will get that out.
And I'm sure if anybody gets it, Dr.
Astrid will get a copy.
And hopefully by the time she appears on the Dr.
Jane Ruby show, which is, thank God, she's going to come on in a show subsequent to this one.
Well, I want to ask you a quick question.
Dr.
Dormer, are you aware, if you looked at your conference materials, were there any financial sponsors from pharmaceutical companies?
It's not listed directly.
Somebody had to have signed the contract that if they only sold 100 tickets.
They sold around 1,050, so they did very well.
But somebody had to sign the contract that if only 100 people came or 50 people came, that somebody would pay for the auditorium.
Very interesting.
And Astrid, I spoke to Astrid before she went up and I questioned her about, I had been to a conference in Malmö about nine months ago where she began her speech by talking about, in warm tones, about Klaus Schwab.
And I had been, in the weeks or months before I saw her begin that talk, this is going back nine months ago, thinking that Klaus Schwab was one of the major actors in this enslavement of people using health.
And so, unfortunately, when I listened to her in Malmö, this was back nine months ago, after she started saying warmly that he's a professor and I'm a professor and we shared over an hour discussing and he's quite a nice gentleman, elderly gentleman, I didn't hear anything.
What she said, bias, you know, like I had trouble to take in what Astrid said in Malmö nine months ago.
I did in the last couple days look at her speech that she gave in Oslo and in her speech in Oslo she doesn't Go into what she went into in the second 15 minutes of her speech.
And this is relevant.
The speech she gave in Oslo, why she was back again in Stockholm was because she stayed in that kind of controlled opposition, nibbling around the edges of the truth and giving a few breadcrumbs.
So she was vetted and everything was fine.
They invited her back.
And then in the second 15 minutes of her 30 minutes, she exposed, according to me, who I'm deep into this, both as a doctor and as a citizen of this world, she exposed it all.
She showed everything that's coming.
Wow.
And this is from an insider at the WHO. Do we have copies of those slides?
I'm sure she can get us her own slides.
We're going to get her information out, as I'm sure others are.
Yeah.
I didn't fully answer your question.
Was there anybody else financing this conference?
And asked her, as I went up to talk to her and asked her a little bit about why she mentioned warmly Kaushaub, said to me, but she didn't say Glenn, she didn't know my name.
I presented myself as a medical doctor that had worked with Truth and Freedom Activism in Sweden.
We went around to different cities, about 25.
And she said, she said, Yes, but he is a nice man, but he's not the one making these decisions.
He's not responsible for the narrative that is being delivered to all countries through the World Health Organization.
She said...
The WEF is sponsoring the World Council for Health.
And I wanted to make sure I heard this because I heard this in Vienna.
My wife and I were at a conference there and two of the activists said, this conference is being sponsored by the World Council for Health.
So I said, do you mean that the WEF is giving money to the World Council for Health?
She said, yes.
And I said, is the World Council for Health sponsoring this conference?
And she looked at me, yeah.
She said, for her, having worked many, many years with the WHO, of course, sponsoring goes in and out and all around.
But for me, it was a watershed moment because if the WEF is sponsoring the World Council for Health and the World Council for Health is sponsoring this conference in Stockholm, I wonder why she got cut off.
Exactly.
Because he who pays calls the shots and makes the rules.
And we all know that.
He who pays the piper chooses the tunes.
Absolutely right.
And this is the problem.
So let me ask you about the mood in that room.
Well, first, when she was being asked to stop, to cut it down, I want to get the timeframe right.
So you said she went about 30 minutes, and then eventually they said, look, we got a bus, we got to get everybody out of here.
She complied.
Did she sit back down on the panel?
I mean, how did Ryan Cole get to the podium again, if he had already spoken?
And then how did we get to that other scene?
So when the hostess that had introduced her onto stage, her name is Aga Wilson, she gently tried to say, it's time you have to come down.
Astrid turned and politely said, I have to get this out.
And then the coordinator of the conference, Sven Roman, he went up on stage, took a mic and said, I'm really sorry, but we're way over time here.
We have to stop this.
And I don't think we have time.
And people in the audience started to clap.
About 30% of the audience started to clap saying, please continue Astrid.
So he...
Realized that he would be going against the zeitgeist of the audience who had paid money to come and hear the truth.
Right.
He backed off.
And I saw him go to somebody sitting in the front row and kind of put up his hands and say, I can't get her off.
Right.
Right.
And look at the power of the people.
Look at the power when the people stand up.
Right?
Anyway, carry on.
So first, Aga at about the 30-minute mark, and then Sven Ramon at the 31-minute mark.
And then, out of the blue, Ryan Cole comes up after 32 minutes.
And basically kind of says, we have to stop.
You have to sit down.
I would like to see the whole video because it happened all so fast.
But suddenly he's up there basically saying, and he starts by saying, one of the things that Ashton said, we don't all agree with this, just so everybody realizes that there is no proof whatsoever for graphene oxide and there's no proof for nanopartins.
Here's what's really interesting about what you just said.
Because when I look at the program, Right?
For Astrid's talk.
Ryan Cole is not the moderator for it.
And in fact, he was not even any of the doctors I see on the panel, rather, for Astrid's talk, who might have been sitting on stage.
They list Pierre Corey, Geert van den Bosch, who I've never trusted because he said the shots were good for some people but not others.
Richard Urso, Jessica Rose, who's tied up with all of them.
Philip Cruz and then Astrid.
But none of the...
Ryan Cole was none of them.
He wasn't on her panel and he wasn't her moderator.
So why was he chosen to go up to shut this down?
And why did he shut it down by denying the lipid nanoparticles?
Was he direct contradicting what she had said?
It felt like when Aga Wilson and Sven Roman couldn't rein in Astrid and what she was presenting, that they literally sent one of their trusted errand boys.
Okay, I shouldn't say that because he's a pathologist, he's a specialist, and I'm just a regular GP. But they sent one of their own with quite a bit of pondus to go up and put her down in her seat.
And you're right.
He wasn't listed in the group that was supposed to meet after the last four or five speeches.
He wasn't listed there.
So somebody kind of took him and said, Ryan, go get her off.
That's my take on the whole thing.
Sure, that's what it looked like.
Okay, we're getting close to the end of the first segment.
So what I want to do here, Dr.
Dormer, is break in a minute here.
And we'll go to a quick break and we'll come back and continue this.
Because I have some other questions.
Of information that other people had sent to me in my proton mail.
Since you were a witness in the room, you can say whether these things happened or not.
And when we come back, I want to talk about exactly what you saw when he...
Stepped up to the podium and kind of did this final, let's shut this down thing.
So let's do that.
Let's take a quick break and when we return, we'll continue finding out the truth about what happened at this conference in Sweden.
It's a much larger story than just a tiff between two doctors.
I'll be right back.
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Well, welcome back to this second segment, second interview with Dr.
Glenn Dormer, who was an attendee and an observer as well as a patriot and an activist in his own right at this Swedish conference that just occurred last week.
Welcome back, Dr.
Dormer.
So when we took the break, we were talking about how Dr.
Astrid Stuckelberger was harassed off the stage, especially after she started to get this truth out about the role of the WHO, what the WHO plans are.
And we got to the point where you had just told us that Dr. Ryan Cole, who had already spoke earlier in the program, who was also not a moderator on Dr. Stuckelberger's portion, nor was he a panel member, just was asked to go back up on nor was he a panel member, just was asked to go And after she, I believe, sat down, is that true, on the stage, and then he got to the podium, is that correct?
It happened simultaneously.
As he came up, his body language was, go and sit down, Astrid, and she did.
Okay, okay, no wonder...
It was clear with her body language.
She didn't want to sit down.
She had some very important other things to say about what was coming, but she didn't.
They were basically shutting her down after only 30 minutes of 45.
It sounds like an intellectual bullying.
Kind of go up there and sit down?
I think it was more that Astrid Stuckelberger was revealing too much of the truth of the plan for us.
The WHO part as a gear in this new world order.
And I don't think it had personally anything to do with her mentioning graphene oxide.
I think it had to do with what she was showing in her presentation.
Now, what we're referring to and what I want you to walk us through is the film that we did a cold open at the beginning of the show showing the tiff, the confrontation between Dr.
Stuckelberger and Ryan Cole.
But before we get to that, I wanted to ask you, at one point you told me that you actually stood up in her defense Was that while they were trying to get her off the stage or was this after and when she had started her confrontation with Cole?
At what time frame did you stand up and what was that about?
When Dr.
Ryan Cole went on the stage, he said, some of you may disagree and it just hit me like from above.
It just jumped into my heart and into my brain.
Glenn, you don't agree with what they're doing to this woman.
She's trying to warn the world.
She's risking her.
So I, and I've never done this at a conference or at medical school, I found myself on my feet and I said, this woman is risking her life to tell more truth than we've seen in the whole two days of this conference.
Wow, bravo.
Bravo, Dr.
Dormer.
And then Dr.
Ron Cole said, well, you can have your own opinion, but the fact is that we don't agree with this graphene oxide statement.
And I said again that That she should be allowed to present.
It was so important what she was presenting to be curtailed, to be shortened in what she was showing in her slides and what she was saying from the 15 minute to the 30 minute when she started to be harassed off stage and finally literally put down in her seat, not physically but verbally by Ryan Cole, is that I thought if I'm walking on the street and I see a big boy beating up a little boy, I could say, I don't know if there's boys, it's not my business, but I am a person that I would stop.
Even if it's the little boy's fault, I would stop them.
If the big boy is beating him, a foot taller than the little boy, I would stop them.
In the same way, I could not sit in my seat and just be told, well, you might disagree, but we're shooting her offstage.
So...
No.
So I stood up, and I said what I said, and then you've seen the video of the rest.
The voice you hear in the background, that's me.
I could not contain myself.
But as a doctrine, as a Christian, as a church seeker, I could not contain myself.
I understand.
And you look at his body language, you can disagree.
It's almost like you can, but you better not.
You can disagree.
I want to ask you a question.
Do you think Dr.
Stuckelberger's life is in danger?
From the WHO or the WEF? This is very interesting.
By me making that statement, I gave her protection.
Because if she was hit by a taxi cab that night, By me standing up and saying, this woman is risking her life to tell us more truth than we've heard in two days, I put a blanket, I can't protect her.
I called her later, I said, she's a Joan of Arc.
But by saying that, it makes it difficult for them to arrange some Bus accident or taxi accident, if you follow my reasoning.
That wasn't my purpose of standing up, but by doing that, I gave her a little bit of protection.
It's hard for them to just make an inconvenient truth disappear.
Yeah, absolutely.
And, you know, just to remind the audience, Dr.
Astrid Stuckelberger will be on the Dr.
Jane Ruby Show later this week.
But I had spoken with her extensively this morning and gotten her story as well.
She was thrilled that you were going, Dr.
Dormer, we're going to share your observations, you know, that you would come to her defense.
You know, she's very grateful.
And for you and anyone else that does that.
So let's walk through now.
I'm sorry, did you want to say more about that?
Yeah, please do.
A short point.
Please do.
No, please do.
That this is not about myself or about Astrid.
It's about the message that she presented for everyone.
So the reason I agreed to do this show is because I'm hoping that when more people realize what she was saying in her presentation, it's not about me, it's not about Astrid, it's about the message she gave.
Sorry, go ahead.
No, I'm glad you made that distinction.
I think it's really important.
She doesn't have an agenda.
She clearly was an insider.
This is bigger than being an insider in a pharmaceutical company.
I myself spent 20 years inside the pharma industry.
That just gave me a clue that something had changed and taken over this industry or whatever.
But where she's coming from is It's a very important place to be an insider in the World Health Organization, to be trying to do good for health policy and the health of people all over the world.
And then to find out that she was in the den of snakes herself is valuable, but it's very dangerous.
And I have found that when people come out of those types of situations, They either are paid off to pretend that they're whistleblowers, and I don't believe she is at all, or they are Ostrid Stuckelberger, who is trying to, against the clock, if you will, so the proverbial clock and a real clock, maybe, trying to get the word out in all honesty.
But to get back to, I just want to get the Because I love an eyewitness to something.
You were there.
You saw it.
You're educated.
You're smart.
You're a physician.
You're credible.
So give us the rundown now.
You've got us back at the stage where Ryan Cole jumps up on the podium.
Someone asked him to come back.
And they've shut down Ostrich.
He's sitting down in her chair.
But the meeting hasn't broken up yet.
And he just gets up there and starts.
So take me from there.
Yeah, then when he picked up on the point that she had said, as she sat down, she said, because she missed 11 of her slides, remember, she missed presenting the last third of her presentation, but she said, as she sat down, I don't think we should disregard out of hand the possibility of graphene oxide.
And then she sat down, and then Ryan Cole came up and started, used that one point, which is It's a gray area.
I'm not saying it's right or wrong.
I'm just saying it's a gray area.
He used that to say that the other panelists don't agree with that there's any nanoparticles or any graphene oxide.
And then, bless her heart...
Astrid, I guess we say in English, she has a skin on her nose.
She got up from her seat and came back and said, you, Ryan Cole, are not an expert on graphene oxide or on nanoparticles.
She stood up for herself.
About what she believed was in these so-called vaccines that are killing people and injuring people that we know.
You looked at the mainstream media, would you, Dr.
Ruby?
Yeah, listen, I'll tell you what I have a problem with.
And I'm saying this not only to you, Dr.
Dornler, but the audience.
It's okay.
Let's say Dr.
Cole's position, he really believes it.
It's okay.
I've met many scientists and researchers who didn't get certain things or they just held tight to their situation.
It's okay to be in the right or the wrong, but it's the way he's doing it.
That's your tip-off.
And what do I mean by that?
If he had that, he would have said, this is a great opportunity.
I've got somebody like Dr.
Stuckelberger.
She came out of the who.
She's a researcher.
She's smart.
I'm going to sit down and talk to her.
We're going to pick each other's brains.
Let's collaborate on why we're so far apart on this.
What do you have, Dr.
Stuckelberger, that I don't have?
And Dr.
Cole, tell me about what you're finding.
It was personal attack.
It was forcing his own Uh, quote, findings down the throats of other people and suppressing her, stuffing her like down into a toilet, which was disgusting and which really caught the attention of people.
It's the way he did it.
He has every right to question other researchers.
I just don't want that to be missed by the audience.
I would defend his right all day long to do that, but not to do it by Calling people names by suppressing them for being a part of something.
If he was a real scientist, he would have defended her ability to say what she needed to say and say, you know what, I think she's wacky and I don't believe in it, but I defend her right to say it as a scientist.
It was the way he did it.
And I'll tell you that that's a pattern because in social media over the weekend, he became very aggressive with me because I I replayed that 30-second tape that you just described.
I'm going to let you finish describing it, but he came after me, told me I was drunk.
I mean, it was a rant of his at one in the morning.
You are screwed up or drunk.
He also said in another tweet directed at me, at Dr.
Jane Ruby, you are no scientist.
He has no idea what my background is.
My credentials are solid.
I'm highly published in PubMed.
But I'm not here to defend myself.
So I'm just telling you in the audience that these are the things we have difficulty with.
There's a really great saying.
I forget who said it.
It goes something like this.
I'm paraphrasing.
I might not agree with what you're saying.
In other words, I may have a completely different opinion of what you're saying.
I may not agree with what you're saying, but I will defend your right to say it to the death.
Absolutely right.
I think that's an American Revolutionary Cup.
But anyway, okay, Dr.
Dormer, let's go back to now walk us through what you saw.
Dr.
Cole jumps back up on stage.
Dr.
Astrid just said, I believe we should talk about GEO. And then he starts and take us from there.
Well, by using that graphene oxide as a wedge to get in, what he actually had the effect on the audience was saying, since this speaker, this woman, is speaking about things that we don't agree with, that are out there and probably totally wrong, you might as well disregard everything she was saying.
And I think that was...
I think they were doing damage control on the amount of truth and honesty and exposing of what the World Health Organization's plan is during 2023 and 2024.
That was the part that got her like shortened in her speech.
This graphonizer was a small thing, but it's kind of like if you have a pizza and you have a small piece of fecal matter on it, you're not going to eat any part of the pizza.
Even if the pizza is really good, if you know there's a little piece of fecal matter on that, you're going to reject the whole pizza goes in the garbage.
That's you, me, anyone else.
So by him saying In her speech, there was a piece of fecal matter.
Therefore, people go, well, I don't want to eat that pizza.
They were doing damage control.
The proof in the pudding here, Jane, is if they, somebody, maybe somebody in the 800 that were left listening to her speech, have that 30 minutes and release it.
Yes.
Everybody needs to see that because it was the whole plan for the New World Order through the World Health Organization.
You know about the treaty that they're planning to sign internationally, which will supersede even states saying, like Florida or Texas saying, we don't agree, we never signed up to that.
In this treaty that they're doing now, the WHO, it will say that no states or municipal governments have the right to opt out.
Well, we'll see about that, won't we?
We'll see about that.
America is different for a reason, and I'm not saying that to be arrogant.
America was founded by people, for the majority of immigrants that came over at the turn of the century, and that's from which many of us were born, with a stubbornness, with something that they were done with other parts of the world, that they were going to be brave enough, and if it cost them their lives, so be it.
I'm hoping that that strength and that guts That's what got us away from, you know, England.
I mean, let's face it.
So am I saying that we're the be-all, end-all?
No.
I'm ashamed of so many things that happened in this COVID hoax.
I couldn't believe that Americans would put a mask on, that Americans would shut down their own hard-earned businesses.
But let's face it, the propaganda was pretty strong.
But I think in the end, when people wake up and they figure out what's happening, but I also think that that spirit is being reawakened or awakened That toughness, that I'm not taking that crap, is being awakened in the roots of those people all over the world, from whence a lot of us came.
And I do think it's going to be, it's something Dr.
Zelenko always said, that this was the greatest time in the world to be alive.
And he said, because the enemy has revealed himself.
And the light is about to take over the darkness.
There's too much light now on this pus-filled, disgusting operation.
And I think that we just have to finish getting, you know, the truth out and the people out.
So I really appreciate your, you know, giving us your observations, telling us exactly what you saw at the meeting, how you perceived this.
And I'm assuming you were around other areas of We're good to go.
Of Dr.
Cole actually sitting in like a lobby at the meeting in Sweden and it's a table with a microscope and there's a screen and it shows like what appears to be, like could be graphene, could be lipid nanoparticles, could be metallic pieces, but he's looking through a microscope and the person sent it said, they asked him to sit down and observe and see for himself.
The lipid nanoparticle material that's been...
Now, this is not an electron microscope, so I'm not sure what they got going here.
But did you see him looking under microscopes or anything during your time in the halls or anything there?
I don't know how big the meeting was.
It was pretty big.
There were 1,050 people there.
I did not see either Ryan Cole or any other doctors looking in a microscope.
It was more of a conference, so it was people talking.
There were no medical companies or pharmaceutical companies advertising there.
Yeah, boy, we would have nailed them if they were, right?
Let me ask you another question.
You can't have been the only person that noticed this, that felt this passionately about it.
Did you talk to other people in the room, like when it started to break up, and what was the chatter?
What was the consensus?
What were people saying?
The people I was sitting with, we were about five or six of us that sat along in a row.
We were actually those that were clapping, Astrid, Astrid, for her to continue, Astrid, before I actually stood up.
But after the conference, I asked some other people that I know that are involved in the Truth and Freedom movement in Sweden, what did you think of Astrid being forced off stage?
I said, no, we didn't see that.
So, That's why I think people need to look at the video and see what's going on here.
That's the proof in the pudding because no, I did not get universal endorsement that what I had experienced was of everybody else that was there.
I see.
Wow.
So you're saying that people around you didn't quite get what was happening on stage when Astrid got up and confronted Dr.
Cole?
No.
And no, they didn't.
Some people did not.
They just thought that they needed to go get their bus and they were running out of time.
But I have these degrees that you named.
I have a master's in social work and a psychology honors degree and a medical degree.
And I've worked as a general practitioner for 21 years.
What I saw happening in front of my face, it was so overpowering, I actually stood up and protested.
So, there you go.
Were you alone when you protested, or did others look up and go, oh, yeah, he's right, I want to protest?
What happened there?
My wife and I and the people we're sitting with discussed, I wonder why two or three other men or women in this conference, in this auditorium, didn't also stand up.
I was the only one.
I take responsibility for it.
And again, I go back to, if my standing up, besides protecting Astrid from what she might have been in store for, it hopefully will enable The interest in this 30 minutes that she put out to be seen by more people.
Because we are going to a very dark place.
Compliments of the New World Order.
Well, in fact, let's save that.
You're going to join me for After Talk, which is a very special Dr.
Jane Ruby show.
Kind of a post-talk for about 10 or 15 minutes when we close out the show.
And it's a big favorite with my audience.
Maybe in that segment we can talk about what you are now aware of because of that 30-minute conversation and what you know she's trying to get out.
But before we say goodbye to you for the show, the regular show, Dr.
Dormer, tell me where people can find you.
Are you writing in Substacks?
Are you giving interviews?
How can people reach you and support you?
I don't have a substack.
I don't have my own video channel.
I do sometimes do interviews like when we're doing.
My email address, if somebody has something they'd like to say to me, good or bad, is glendormer, G-L-E-N-N, dormer, no period or dash or hyphen.
So small case, glendormer, D-O-R-M-E-R, at gmail.com.
At gmail.com.
Okay, that's awesome.
That's very generous of you.
And so if you have any comments or you want to, maybe you're another doctor or scientist, you want to communicate with Dr.
Dormer, maybe you were there.
And now by hearing his story, his observations, you want to pool or share yours with him as well.
That would be a great idea.
So Dr.
Glenn Dormer, thank you so much all the way from Sweden for being our eyes and our ears over there from this meeting and for being on my show and sharing everything.
You're welcome, Jane.
Yeah, my pleasure meeting you.
Take care.
Well, when I return, I'll have some closing comments and we'll say goodbye for tonight.
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I'll be right back.
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