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Jan. 28, 2023 - Stew Peters Show
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LIVE @8PM EST: JESUS. GUNS. AND BABIES. w/ Dr. Kandiss Taylor ft. ERIC MATHENY
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Hey everybody, welcome to Jesus Gens and Babies.
I'm your host, Candice Taylor, and we're going to have a great show for you today.
Actually, we did this show, and we lost footage, and we are doing it again because it's that important.
So this guest I have, he's sacrificing time twice for me, but you want to hear what he has to say, and so we had to get him back on.
We're going to start with a verse about truth, and it's Proverbs 12, 17.
It says, It's deceitful.
So I think that that really encompasses who he is because I met him before and I interviewed him.
And so he is a truth speaker.
He seeks truth.
He kind of pushes people on issues.
I actually went on his show and he pushed me a little bit and made me stretch myself.
And I think that's great.
That's what we should be doing.
Iron sharpens iron.
That's another verse.
But we should be doing that for each other.
So he's an attorney.
He's a constitutionalist.
His name is Eric Matheny.
So thank you, Eric, for coming on the show.
Thank you so much for having me.
So glad to have you today.
Will you tell everybody a little bit about what you do and who you are?
And I know you have a huge social media presence too, but can I tell them how you got there?
Yeah, well, my name is Eric Matheny.
I'm an attorney in South Florida.
I practice criminal defense.
I'm a former prosecutor.
A couple of years ago, I just started opining on political issues and kind of built up a little following.
And then about almost four years ago, I started podcasting.
I do Bob and Eric Save America, formerly Weekly Wrap Up with Bob and Eric.
And we're with Freedom First Network.
And we're just out there spreading truth.
We go to a lot of events.
We speak.
We talk about what's going on in the world.
And that's kind of what we do.
And on Bob and Eric Save America, we comment on what's going on politically and more importantly, socially.
So it's really given me an opportunity to come on shows like yours and do things like this.
And we need truth sayers in this time of, you know, a lot of false witnesses out there.
There surely are.
I think that scripture was fitting.
I looked for one.
I thought, oh, this is it.
So tell about where you are as a person, like how you got into the mindset of being a conservative, because so many attorneys are liberal and kind of brainwashed by the institution they come through.
So will you tell us a little bit about your background with your family and kind of what makes you care about the country?
Yeah, that's interesting that you say that because here in my legal community, I'm probably one of the only conservatives who's as outspoken as I am.
I get a lot of people who walk by me in the courthouse and quietly whisper, hey, I love what you say, but they can't do it publicly.
I do it at tremendous risk, I imagine, but I work for myself.
I think if I worked for some big firm and was on the partnership track, I'd probably have to keep my mouth shut.
And unfortunately, a lot of people are in that situation.
I have been really a lifelong conservative.
And I come from Los Angeles, California, which, again, probably is an anomaly that I'm a conservative.
I'm from a family that was politically and religiously split.
My mother's side of the family, Jewish liberals from New York.
My father's side of the family, Catholics from Pasadena, California, Catholics.
So I got both, and certainly in the early days of my life, saw both sides.
I mean, I lived through President Clinton.
I lived through the first Bush.
I saw the good and the bad, and I really was kind of politically disinterested.
It wasn't until I was 17 years old where my father's parents died three weeks apart.
And I watched my father have to go through the mess of cleaning up their estate.
Now, mind you, these were not rich people.
These were people who worked hard.
My grandmother was the child of immigrants.
They worked very hard to build what little they had.
And my grandfather, this is an old time.
These are people of the Depression.
He worked for the same employer for 50 years.
He had a pension.
He had investments.
He had things that he had worked for.
And I watched my father as they sold my grandparents' house that they bought for $9,000 in 1949, selling it for whatever the market value of the house was in 1999.
I watched my father write the IRS a check for $200,000.
Money that my grandfather had paid in with his taxes for 58 years.
He worked for his company that paid capital gains on his investments to watch my father sell their home, which Sold for a nominal amount, but basically half the value to go in taxes because of how it appreciated because they bought it for $9,000 and sold it when they died.
And I looked at it and I'm like, Dad, what is this?
And he said, vote Republican, son.
And that just put me on the track of fiscal conservatism.
Of self-reliance.
Of patriotism.
And then obviously living through 9-11 and seeing that.
But it wasn't so much the traditional republicanism.
It was when Trump came along.
And I wasn't a Trump supporter in the beginning.
I looked at this guy and said, him?
This reality TV guy?
This guy's a clown.
And I started to see, wait a minute.
He's exposing both sides.
He's exposing this uniparty, this D.C. swamp.
And I just got fired up to speak on it.
And I voted for him twice.
I'll vote for him thrice.
And...
I think that where we are right now is especially seeing the $1.7 trillion spending bill that both sides supported, seeing that it's a big club and we're not in it, and the only weapon we have in this war is our voice.
First Amendment.
That's my first, right?
You know, you said some really interesting things.
And I want to go back to his inheritance for me, too.
You know, my grandparents have all died except for one.
And so we've kind of gone through the estates.
I found my daddy dead, had to do his estate.
And it's an interesting thing when they acquire wealth and then looking at inheritance and how they're taxed.
They acquire.
It is your inheritance.
And then it's taxed again.
So as an attorney, and I know every state's different, like in Georgia, I think our inheritance tax is better than it used to be.
But how do you feel about, in general, property tax and how many times we are taxed as Americans versus what the Constitution says?
Like, where do you stand on taxation?
You know, I stand on as minimal as humanly possible.
Now, I understand taxation is a necessary evil.
We do have to pay to be part of this country and be part of this community.
Someone's got to pay law enforcement.
Someone's got to pave the roads.
I've always been in favor of a flat tax or a consumption-based tax, which really allows you...
To participate as much as you want.
And actually, the wealthier will be paying a higher share because they're going to be the ones who are buying the bigger homes and the bigger cars and spending more money, whereas people with less means, they're able to save a whole lot more.
I think that our tax system right now is completely backwards.
I think it's way too complicated.
I think you have a lot of people that can abuse loopholes.
I mean, I think this is where a lot of Americans can find common ground across ideological spectrums and go, well, wait a minute, this is unfair.
And with respect to the estate tax, to the death tax, you know, it's the billionaires, it's the Bill Gates of the world that are in favor of it, because if you die with a net worth of $50 billion, it doesn't matter if the government takes 90% of it.
Your family's still better off for the next thousand years.
We're talking about working people who work You know what?
In this day and age, a million dollars is not that much.
And once the government gets their hand on it and you've got to split it between three siblings, you're walking away with very little.
And these are sacrifices that your parents and grandparents made so that you wouldn't have to struggle the way that they did.
But the government comes in, they're taking money that these folks have already paid by virtue of their taxes that they paid, property taxes they've already paid on the home, income tax they paid on the income.
They've paid the real estate taxes, and now when they die, oh, you know, windfall, we're going to come in and we're going to take that money.
And I just, I see people putting it out there, and I think it's more for social media clout, going, hey, we're going to get rid of the IRS, but we know that's never going to happen.
They're doing it for the likes and the retweets, but I think there's something to be said about re-evaluating the role of the IRS and going to something as simple as just a flat percentage, whether you make $10 or whether you make $10 billion, everyone has a little skin in the game and everyone pays a percentage of what they earn.
You know, I love that.
So I knew I loved you.
So what happened when I ran for U.S. Senate, I didn't know anything about politics, and I ran because of Ben Carson, really, when he spoke at my Ph.D. ceremony and said, our taxation and the way we're spending money, our national debt, that and political correctness is going to kill us.
So those are the two things I targeted.
I said, I want term limits, which will kill political correctness because we'll get the politicians out.
We'll have regular people serve, two terms come home.
And a flat tax, a consumption tax.
Those are my two things I ran on that whole U.S. Senate race, and it resonated with everyone in Georgia.
That's the two issues they cared about at the time because we didn't realize our elections were being hijacked.
So in 2020, when I was running for that seat, those were the two issues.
Taxation, being fair, getting rid of all this.
And then the term limits.
And I think those are still very prominent in people's minds.
You know, when you look at property taxes, and we are actually getting involved in real estate, some of flipping houses and that kind of thing.
And when you're getting involved in that, we're seeing, we're looking at, you know, the newspaper and all the foreclosures.
It is so sad how many people cannot afford to pay their property tax.
You're talking about landowners who've had generational farms that they cannot afford because of inflation with food and gas and everything else.
Now they're having to make a choice.
Do I feed my family or do I pay my taxes?
And I can't do both.
And they're having to pick and choose.
And it is very sad.
And it should not be that way.
You should not lose your farm because of a high tax rate that you've paid taxes on when you bought the land and then you're paying taxes every year.
And there's something got to give.
It's breaking the middle class.
It is breaking the middle class and they're the ones that suffer from it the most because the poor, they don't pay the taxes and the wealthy can afford it.
It's the people that are stuck in the middle where you're not so poor that you can't get away from it and you're not so rich that it's not going to hurt you.
And really when you think about it, with property tax and income tax, I mean, do you really own anything?
Do you really own anything?
If you have a piece of land, even if you pay off your mortgage, A lien can be put on your property.
In some states, your property can be seized if you don't pay your property taxes.
There's stories of someone owed $58 or something and they came with armed sheriff deputies and said, we're seizing your house.
Your income, the government has a stake in your life.
That every two weeks or month or whenever you get your paycheck, they reach their grubby little hand and they take from you that we have to work days and months out of the year just to satisfy a government that doesn't represent the interests of the people.
That's the thing.
That's what really irks people, rubs us the wrong way.
It's not that we pay taxes because we understand the social construct and we understand that we've got to live together and there are things that we have to pay for.
But at the same time, we sit here and watch them in Washington, D.C., completely disconnected from regular folks like us, You know, sending $100 billion to Ukraine?
Well, I didn't vote for that.
You didn't vote for that.
We didn't sign up for this.
But we're the ones working to pay it.
And that's what really irritates Americans.
It's not necessarily taxes.
It's how our money is being used, because there's no such thing as government funding.
It doesn't exist as a non-profit organization.
You and I are paying for this.
So Eric, you said something really interesting there about our right to own property that's constitutional.
I want you to talk about that because we never do own property if we have to pay taxes forever.
Yeah, you're right.
I mean, do you really ever own anything?
And understand that really, before we even get to the Constitution, I mean, when we talk about just the idea of this country, your life, liberty, and property, I mean, those are three basic tenets.
You have the right to your life, you have the right to your freedom, and you have the right to own property.
You have the right to have something that is yours and you call your own.
Obviously, there are services and things we need to pay for.
I mean, you got to pay for someone for your sewage, you got to pay for your water system.
We understand that.
But the idea of property taxes, where the government has a stake in your property, even if you own the property outright, you really never own it.
And obviously when you talk about schools and you talk about disparity and income disparity in wealth, you know, property taxes is the biggest catalyst of that because if I live in a neighborhood where property taxes are high, I'm going to have better schools, I'm going to have better law enforcement protection, I'm going to have a better quality of life than if I live in a neighborhood where it's not.
So it really does sort of beget its own Isolationism, where this is going to be a rich neighborhood where kids are going to have a wealthy school to go to, and everyone else, you're going to be left behind.
Going to a flat tax or consumption tax or any manner of taxation where you choose your level of participation, not only are we going to, well, first of all, we're going to eliminate a lot of loopholes.
Because at the same time, there are a lot of ways where, you know, billionaire corporations and billionaires can get away with paying very little in taxes because of the loopholes that exist because they can afford the lobbyists to get them the loopholes.
Level the playing field for everybody, for the middle class, for the poor, for the wealthy, where you decide your level of involvement.
If you want to go buy a $100,000 car and you're going to pay a 10 or 11% sales tax on it, whatever it is, that's your choice.
Everything.
And obviously, certain items would be exempt and things like that.
We could really put together one great flat tax or consumption tax system, if we think about it.
A lot of great ideas.
You talk about Ben Carson.
And you talk about even Herman Cain, the late Herman Cain, had a great 9% consumption-based tax.
If we went to something like that, I think we'd have more money than we know what to do if we get this debt paid off.
Because we're not doing that.
We're not talking about that.
We're just servicing a debt, but we're accumulating more and more and more.
No president, not Trump, not anybody's been able to bring down that debt.
We've had a national debt since about 1830, and it's just been going up.
And Ben Carson talks a lot about, you know, the Bible and tithing and 10%, you know, and not saying it has to be 10%, but God had a good idea about, you know, you can live off 90%.
And I know Sears, the guy that owns Sears Roadbooks, he tithed 90% and kept 10% and was just a billionaire and just kept growing wealth because it's a principle in the Bible.
But, you know, as far as the government goes, when people think, oh, 10% is high, we're paying like 30%.
When you get your income tax and you get your property tax and you add up all the taxes you're paying and sales tax, it's astronomical if you add up every single thing you're paying in taxes, it will make you sick to your stomach.
I want to talk about, so, yes, I agree on all of that.
And we know in 2020 what happened that changed the narrative of what we've been talking about for the past two years is the election.
And I want to ask you, Eric, do you think that this just happened in 2020 or how far back do you think this goes?
It's hard to say.
I think elections, certainly there's been improprieties in the past.
I think probably as long as we've had elections even predating the United States, I think just as long as human beings are in charge of any institution, it's going to be subject to our fallibility as humankind.
We're greedy.
We're self-interested creatures.
Whether this was the first U.S. election that was outright stolen or at least significant improprieties, in my lifetime certainly, I do believe that there were efforts made before.
I mean, we had some shenanigans here in Broward County in 2018 where they were finding ballot boxes in the back of cars at airports and things like that.
I think they really tested the waters.
What we do have to do when we talk about election fraud and stealing an election is we have to really separate what's farfetched and unlikely from what's more often going to be the truth.
And I think Dinesh D'Souza with 2000 Mules, I think he pinpoints it beautifully.
I've talked to a lot of people who are saying, you know, satellites beaming up in outer space from the Vatican.
And that's just a little farfetched.
I'm grounded in reality.
I think we have people on both sides of political aisle.
That just get too far in the weeds on conspiracy theory.
And I'm a firm believer, and I think the last three years has proven, that a lot of these conspiracy theories do end up being true or partially true.
I do think some of the stuff, namely with the Dominion software, I think just none of that was proven.
And I'm not going to side with an issue just because it benefits my side.
That makes me disingenuous.
And if there's one thing I want to be, I want to call balls and strikes evenly and at least be a voice of truth or what I consider truth to be based on the evidence.
I think more likely than not, And I say they loosely because who's they?
But a composite of people looked at the electoral map and said, we need to win these particular districts.
And COVID was the method by which they could do it.
Because if you recall, when they unleashed the big COVID spending bill, what was already built into it?
Mail-in voting.
You can go riot.
You want to go burn down an auto zone?
You want to do that?
We'll pause a pandemic for you to go riot.
But come election day, it's the deadliest virus in 100 years.
You're going to die if you go vote.
You have to vote from home.
Unsolicited mail-in ballots where there was no signature verification, where you couldn't determine where these ballots are coming from.
Laws being circumvented left and right because the manner and method of your state's election is determined by your state legislator.
So the fact remains that these COVID restrictions, emergency powers, we were just running roughshod over state and federal constitution left and right, and we will never know.
I don't think we'll ever have an answer.
I think we just saw similar things happen in Arizona.
But like I've always said, you know, we could sit here, we could try to relitigate the past.
It is so much better to be proactive and reactive, and I blame the Republican Party for not being more on the ball, that when Nancy Pelosi said, we're going to have mail-in voting, that should have been the biggest red flag in the world, and we should have had our RNC lawyers In court, getting injunctions against these COVID restrictions saying, uh-uh, we're not doing unsolicited mail-in voting.
And if we're going to have mail-in voting, this is how we're going to do it.
And we're going to have signature verification.
We're going to show photo ID. You're going to track the ballot from point A to point B. None of that happened.
Absolutely.
You know, in 2002 or 2003, that era, we implemented electronic voting in Georgia.
And since then, we've had issues, but we didn't realize the gravity of those issues.
The difference in Georgia and Arizona is, yes, in 2020, a lot of absentee ballots, all those things.
And, you know, Dinesh proved all that in Georgia.
But we also have the issue of Just plain, outright numbers that don't make sense, even with that.
For example, Cobb County, which is outside of Fulton, we look at Cobb County, we had a group, it was called Project Opal, and there was a bunch of ladies and a few men, and they went and did open records requests and got tabulator tapes.
They added these tabulator tapes.
They looked at every single precinct, went through, looked at the numbers, Republican, Democrat, and they were 250,000 votes off from the night of the election count to the risk-limiting audit.
It was two weeks later that they counted the same tabulators again, supposedly 250,000.
Well, President Trump lost Georgia by less than 12,000 votes.
That was one county.
We looked at Cherokee a little bit more north and there were 80,000 off.
And then we looked at Chatham and they were 100,000 off.
And we're looking at all these counties.
You're talking about hundreds of thousands of votes off.
And that wasn't just in mail-in votings.
So there was something going on with the algorithm, something going on with the tabulators, something.
And I'm like you.
I don't believe in all this.
Yeah, the voting went through another country and it was routed there with the Dominion system.
Yeah, that could be true.
But as far as them in another country playing with our votes, You know, I don't even care about all that.
What I care about is counting the paper.
We go in and vote, let's count the paper.
And the difference in Georgia and Arizona, come back, circle back, is that in Arizona, they do ballots by hand, and then they scan it through the machine.
In Georgia, we have a touchscreen.
And so to me, our whole system's unconstitutional because you're supposed to be able to see voter intent.
Well, you can't see voter intent when you're not hand marking.
So we're going in and we're tapping a screen and it prints and then we're scanning in with a QR code.
Where in Arizona, they do hand mark and then scan.
So even when we go back to those original paper, if they let us, which they haven't, let us even count that.
But if you go count that, you don't know 100% that it printed what you tapped on that screen because you didn't actually mark it.
It's the Jurassic Park principle.
Just because you can do it doesn't mean you should do it.
And the fact that technology permits us to do these things doesn't mean we should detract from the way we've done them that has been tried and true in the past.
Paper ballots, you know, you're absolutely right.
If there's a discrepancy or problem, how do you determine voter intent by touching a screen?
If you look at someone the way they checked it, you go, oh, wait a minute, there's a mark here, they must have meant that, which is how they determined everything in 2000.
But the fact that everything's touchscreen in a lot of states, That creates a number of problems.
We really need to keep voting as simple as possible.
I know we're always trying to debate these, and they use it, you know, ballot accessibility and voter outreach.
They use all these, you know, fancy phrases, but really it's a simple process.
And I don't know why we can't agree on it, despite what side you're on.
Go to a polling place, bring a photo ID, check a box, bubble it in, whatever you do, hand it to the counter, put it through the machine.
And that's how it should be.
And whoever wins, wins.
Right.
They want disenfranchisement and all this.
Yeah, I don't...
If a Democrat wins, Georgia win.
As long as it's fair and legal.
I can't take this...
We lose our constitutional republic.
We lose that when we don't have fair legal voting.
And that's...
My whole thing is let's have fair legal voting.
And in Georgia also...
And I don't know if you know anything about Salesforce.
I don't know if you heard about Salesforce.
But there was an article I read the other day.
And during the whole thing...
Before my primary in March and May, we were talking from March to May and this whole thing with Salesforce came out that it went hand in hand with Dominion and the person on Salesforce was working with Dominion or they were working with the state of Georgia, all these things.
Now Salesforce has been like given some award or some placement on a board in Georgia by the Secretary of State.
It's very strange.
But what Salesforce does is it's a marketing company.
And their software projects things and does some algorithms and does some of these things that they could have worked hand in hand.
Who knows?
I don't know because I haven't read the algorithm.
But that is all weird and coincidental how all of a sudden now they're kind of being elevated in Georgia by the Secretary of State who's over elections.
It's just all strange.
Everything that's happening here is strange.
And we're the people, and we need to ask questions, and we need to take our elections back.
And like I'm saying, moving forward, like you were saying, let's quit going backwards.
Let's look at today and let's say, okay, we're seeing this.
Let's address it now and demand it now.
Because we are a bottom-up government, and we have to take it back.
They're not going to just hand it to us.
We have to say no and demand these things and not stop.
It's what we did here in Florida.
And the result was DeSantis won by 20 points because we knocked all that off.
We said, we're not going to have that.
And we got rid of all the unsolicited mail-in voting.
You've got voter ID. It's made it very difficult to cheat.
And I believe we're a center-right country.
I think most people have center-right beliefs.
And I think that if voting is fair and even across the board, I think this country is going to trend a little more in the conservative direction.
Let's talk about that center step.
Let's talk about morality.
Where do you think morality comes into play, Eric, in our country, in our voting, in our belief system, and us being far right or far left or in the middle?
Because I'm like you.
I believe we're a center right, and morality is why.
That's what I think.
What do you think?
You know, that's a tough question because morality, more and more morality is becoming a relative term.
And I talk about that on my show a lot.
Like we used to have standards of decency in this country where we could disagree vehemently, passionately on issues.
But we all can come back to the same center.
I mean, that's how you have a debate.
You have a set of facts that you stipulate to and you provide your own interpretation and data.
But we have different set of facts and we see it across the board and we see it predominantly on the left.
We see it with these changing of things that have been traditionally normal in this country, like the idea that gender's a malleable construct, that someone can wake up, a man can go swim with the ladies and claim the award and be the best female swimmer.
Not too long ago, we could all agree, you could be as far left as possible, but we still agree that a man's a man and a woman's a woman.
So the idea of morality It used to be like stealing is wrong.
But we're seeing the morality shift in a lot of cities that are run by these far-left EAs that go, well, really, it's not wrong because they're poor people and they need it more than you.
So the morality is relative.
It's relative to your own situation.
When we start doing that, when we start manipulating these constructs that are not supposed to be malleable, That are supposed to be standard.
Morality.
Thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal.
I mean, it's pretty simple.
So simple that we were able to narrow it down to ten commandments.
That's what you do.
And everything stems from that.
The fact remains that when morality can change depending on who's applying it, then we have no morality.
I think by and large, and I think social media is a poor indicator because you're only looking at the extremes, I think most people, when you go out in the world and interact, I think most people are decent human beings.
I think most people just want to get along and they want to provide for their families and just overall be left alone.
But there's enough people out there, just enough of a belief out there that, well, you know, morality is fluid.
And especially in younger generations, which is why we see people.
The stuff that you see online, the teachers that want to talk about gender and want to talk about these things, because they know that people our age are dinosaurs.
You're not going to change us.
We're stubborn.
We're locked into our belief system.
But the young kids who are spending their time at school, who are around their peer groups and these influences that we didn't have, maybe not in the same manner, And not with the same frequency because children are inundated with information like we have never been when we were kids.
And trying to change that.
And that's what frightens me is younger generations not having a frame of reference that we had.
And we all had morality in our upbringing.
We may have strayed from it.
We may not be perfect, but I think we understood what it was.
My fear is that young kids, younger generations are not even learning about that.
And they're seeing everything through the prism of not what is good and decent, but how does it make you feel?
And that's where we started seeing that when I was young with the self-esteem movement and things.
And self-esteem is great, but you can't look at the world through the prism of victimhood.
And that's what we're doing.
And that's where morality starts to shift.
And I have concerns about that.
Well, I like what you said about malleable.
And that's what, you know, children are.
And that's why we have this Confucius Institute.
This is a CCP Trojan horse that's in our University of Georgia systems.
And it's in other states because they want to brainwash us into communism and that whole thought process.
And it takes morality out of it.
And it takes your right to freedom out of it and makes them brainwashed.
It's easy to do that with young minds and helping them to, you know, get rooted out what parents are putting in, in hard work.
And then, you know, it's not an entitlement.
It is capitalistic society.
And it's, you know, it takes that away.
And I think it's a very dangerous thing.
And it was signed over by Governor Kemp in Georgia and put in in 2019.
And I challenged that on the debate stage because our people don't even know.
They don't even know what is being pushed on their kids in the university system.
Yesterday, I went to a church in St.
Simons.
It's like my vacation church that I go to.
And the pastor was talking about your conscience.
And I was listening at first.
I thought, I don't agree with what he's saying.
But then he got to his point.
And I totally agreed.
Because as a counselor, you have a PhD in counseling, and your conscience can get seared.
And it is given to you by God.
And it is kind of your compass of what's right and what's wrong.
But it can get seared.
And I think everything you just said is what I was hearing him say yesterday about your conscience getting seared.
And we're making things malibu.
And it's not...
A definitive yes, right, and wrong, like the Ten Commandments.
But he talked about privilege and responsibility travel together.
And it's your highest privilege and it's your greatest responsibility to uphold morality.
And so whenever you're in an office and you're in an elected office, and if you're not responsible and you don't You don't take that privilege seriously and all you care about is yourself or you're jealous or you're money hungry or greedy or power hungry.
You compromise those things and that's changing our whole society and I do think that it's coming from the top down now instead of the bottom up.
Although I am blaming the churches too for not being definitive and then being on the fence and want to please everybody.
I blame a lot of institutions.
I blame parents.
You can blame politicians, but I've kind of laid off politicians, not because I want to give them a break, but because I want us to stop looking to DC for a savior because it's the wrong place to look.
And even if there's someone there whom you respect or like, sooner or later, they're going to do something that disappoints you.
There's something about that place That suck the soul out of a human being.
And even people that go there with good intentions become corrupted.
And so stop looking, this election is going to save me.
This election is going to be it.
Save yourself.
Have a vested interest.
You consider yourself a conservative?
Well, if you're sitting there waiting for the government to help you, you're no better than a socialist.
Pull yourself up by your bootstraps and change the situation that you're in.
Be a provider.
Be the protector.
Be the one who saves yourself and your family and change whatever predicament you're in.
Is it hard work?
Is it going to be easy?
I mean, again, if you're sitting there, if you could come out and go, I'm a conservative and I think that we need to do this, but I'm going to wait for this guy to get elected and he's going to fix it.
You're no better than some far left pink-haired Antifa hurling a firebomb to a federal courthouse.
You're no better.
Take inventory.
Take moral inventory of your life and your family's lives and forget Washington.
Keep your circle small.
Focus on your family.
Focus on community.
And if we all did that, not only are we going to weaken the relevance of Washington, D.C., which we should all be trying to do, we're going to strengthen our communities.
We're going to strengthen our society because it's not...
You know, I'm going to go run for Senate and change the world.
I'm going to sit on my HOA board.
I'm going to run for city commission.
I'm going to do things locally because that's where you're going to have the greatest impact.
And always, always practice what you say you're going to do.
I think that's one of the things that gets us especially tangent a little bit here about, like, climate change.
These people come out and say, well, you get climate change.
And then, you know, a thousand of them take their private jets to Switzerland.
Like, come on, give me a break.
You want me to change my life, but you're using 50 times as much carbon as I'll use in one year with that flight.
Give me a break.
You know, it's just, we really lack genuine people.
That's one thing that we're missing.
That's our shortfall in 2023 is genuine people who practice what they preach, who live it.
And that's why I always respect people who do.
So find the people who speak the truth, but also live that truth.
So Eric, let's talk about your pet peeves.
So what's your pet peeves?
If you had to say, like, your top three pet peeves, and I'll tell you mine, too.
I'll go first.
You go first.
But what's your pet peeves?
Ooh, gosh, pet peeves.
I think, well, you know, other than, like, the usual ones like traffic, but you can't avoid that, I think...
People who are constantly making excuses.
I love that.
I couldn't do that.
I didn't have enough time.
Okay, well, let's talk about time.
What time did you get up this morning?
I got up about nine, but why didn't you get up at seven?
If you would have gotten up at seven, if you would have sacrificed those two hours of sleep, you could have gotten done what you didn't get done because you didn't have enough time.
That's the biggest cop out in the world.
I don't have enough time.
There's just not enough time.
I find, and I'm self-employed and I do my podcast.
I do a lot.
I find the busier I am, the more I get done because there is no time to waste.
We're going to do this.
We're going to do that.
Then we're going to do this.
And it's a disciplined lifestyle.
It's not always easy, but it's productive when we get it done.
The idea that life is just supposed to be something where we sit back, put our feet up and enjoy it.
Yeah.
Life is full of happiness and great joy, but there's a tremendous amount of pride and satisfaction that comes from our labors, and that's what we've forgotten.
That's what our ancestors had.
They didn't have all the creature comforts we had.
Very few of them had anything at all, but they had a belief in God, they had belief in family, and they had the pride of what they could build, whether they're building a house or what they could plant or a business they could grow.
There's so much pride, and I speak specifically to men, because we have a masculinity crisis in this country.
In the world, I think men, we are created to be warriors.
We are created to be perfectors.
We are created to hunt mammoths.
We're created to build homes.
The more that we do as men, We get that dopamine reward.
It may not be money in your hand.
It may not be retweets, but something that you did.
Maybe you fixed your car.
Maybe you put a new roof on your house.
Maybe the toilet was leaking and you went and fixed it.
There's pride that we as men take and we need that.
That's something that we need.
Like women, you know, we talk about deviating from these standards.
Women are maternal.
That is how God created you to be mothers, to be nurturers, men to be warriors.
We are physically built different for our environments to adapt to us.
We're going to thrive in these environments because we're built certain ways and we complement each other.
You don't want to have a household without a mother.
You don't want to have a household without a father.
The best households have a mother and a father.
And there are things that we as men can do to feed those masculine needs.
And granted, we're not living off the land so much anymore.
We have it easy.
And I think that's why you see the feminization of men, because we don't live in these tough times where we're actually...
And physiologically, it can be proven that for men, your testosterone levels are higher when you're in more dangerous surroundings.
That's why when...
Things are good and you can tap your phone and your tacos will be here in 30 minutes.
We get soft and we just get lazy.
But if we can maintain that, the sense of pride and accomplishment that you're going to have is unlike anything.
And I think, so people who make excuses, I think that's my biggest pet peeve.
Above and beyond that, people who lie and, you know, That's a big one.
People who lie and people who are unreliable.
People, like, you think you're in a situation and you think, I can't ask them to do it because I don't know if they're going to do it.
So, you know, people who lie, people who are unreliable, but above all people make excuses.
No excuses.
Well, you know what, Eric?
I'm telling you, I center myself around alpha men because I love alpha men.
I feel like that's what God created you to be.
I wish they were all around the country, every single seat.
You know, you, Stu Peters, Mike Lindell, if you look at the people that I'm the closest to and I put around myself, they're alpha.
I even interviewed the other day, Kevin Sorbo, and he is alpha, like Hercules.
And I told him, I was like, oh my gosh, I love you so much because he is just like you.
I mean, he's a patriot, but he's alpha male.
And I think we have to encourage our men.
We've demasculated them.
We've, you know, women want to rise to the top.
And even me running for governor, I'll tell you why I think I know God told me to run was because we have a bunch of weak betas in Georgia.
And with a woman, we are maternal.
We're motherly.
When I see that my children and my future grandchildren aren't going to be free because a bunch of men are in there having a good old boy system, then put me in there and I'll clean house.
I don't care if I make you mad.
I'm not trying to be a part of your country club.
So I think that that's why God told me to run.
My pet peeves are lying and being condescending.
So as much as I love alpha men and I want truth, I want you to tell me the truth.
If it hurts, it hurts.
But talking down to me like I'm stupid, I hate that.
And so women that do that, and actually I experience more women doing that than men in my life.
But You know, I think we should value people and we should hear what they have to say, even when they don't agree and speak truth, but not do it in a way that's demeaning.
And so that's part of me being maternal, right?
And motherly.
But the excuses thing, I had learned that from Ben Carson.
I read all of his books whenever, you know, 12 years ago when he spoke when I got my PhD.
And I read all these books and everything for him was about making excuses, making excuses.
And I have applied that in my life and I have seen my own finances grow and I've seen myself, you know, get promotions and things change because when you stop making excuses and it's 100% accountability all of the time, People like that.
It feeds positive energy.
People want to be around you.
Nobody wants to hear every single thing that happened bad in your life because we all have problems.
We all have obstacles we face.
How do you overcome them?
Let's move forward.
Let's not focus on the past.
Let's say, deal with a problem today and move forward and quit making excuses.
And I think that's a great one.
Actually, when you said that, I thought, wow, that's what my number one should be.
And I'm getting there.
You know, I'm getting there.
But Most people make a bunch of excuses.
They really do.
And as a counselor, when I'm counseling someone, that's all you hear is excuses.
And so what I've started doing in counseling sessions is saying to them, okay, how can we fix it?
And then you change their mindset and it really does help you see people grow.
You see the growth.
Hearing the excuses all the time doesn't help them process and grow at all.
Yeah, you know, and I deal with that a lot as a criminal defense attorney.
I deal with that a lot, you know, people making excuses and, you know, ultimately you have to think, you know, let's work toward a solution.
What can we do to solve this problem?
And, you know, look, you know, And I believe firmly in what I do.
I love what I do.
And you made a comment earlier in the show about being a conservative defense attorney.
Wouldn't I be a liberal?
There are a lot of liberals in my business, believe it or not.
But really, when you think about it, I think what I do is fairly conservative.
I am defending the Constitution.
I'm defending the idea that someone is presumed innocent, that the police have to have probable cause, that they have to have a warrant to search a property, things that we have to adhere to the Constitution.
And if it's trampled upon, you need advocates there to protect you.
Also, we talk about rooted in morality, forgiveness.
If someone slips in their judgment and does something, do they deserve a second chance?
Do they deserve to be forgiven?
So there are a lot of constitutional and conservative tenets in criminal defense, but certainly about making excuses.
I just think we as a society have made it real easy because we have this idea.
I mean, competition and accountability are second nature or second nature.
Now to the idea of victimhood, that something was done to you, that you have been persecuted, and there's almost some kind of social currency.
People derive from that, talking about, well, I'm oppressed.
And really, you're not.
I mean, there's very few people in this country in this day and age that are oppressed.
But what I think, certainly as far as You know, striving to get where we want to get is you can't make excuses and you have to just look at a day and go, look, if it means getting up early, if it means having to sacrifice certain things, that's the idea.
People don't want to be uncomfortable, but, you know, succeeding and getting what you want, if it were easy, everyone would do it.
So remember that.
I love hearing stories.
I mean, I try to work out, try to be a fitness guy, but I see stories online of people like wake up one day and say, I'm losing weight.
And you see a picture of them a year later.
They lost 200 pounds.
They look great.
It's not just you look better.
Every aspect of your life changes.
Like, I'm more successful.
My social life has improved because people want to be around you because that attitude is contagious.
You ever around someone and you're like, I've got to step my game up.
I've got to do this.
People that want you to do better.
And especially as we interact with people who want to hire professionals.
You need a doctor, an accountant, a lawyer.
What do you want to see?
Do you want to see someone who's disheveled and slovenly and apathetic?
Or do you want to see someone who looks like they care, who puts pride into everything they do?
Success begets success.
So the more that you take on, the harder you work, the more sacrifices you make.
It's going to come back to you.
So, you know, it's not just about, you know, aesthetics.
It's far more than that.
You know, it's true.
I've had three children.
I had two miscarriages before my third child.
And I had gained about 30 pounds then that was overweight.
Then I ran for U.S. Senate and gained 20 pounds as I'm running for U.S. Senate, 25 pounds as I'm running for U.S. Senate.
So I'm significantly overweight at this point.
And my brain hasn't changed.
My, you know, ability to make decisions hasn't changed.
I'm running for governor.
I'm now running for governor.
And I look back at those videos.
I'm like, oh my gosh, I was so fat.
But at the time, I knew I was overweight.
But I was just going through the motions and making excuses of I'm being a mom and I'm doing this, I'm doing that, and not taking care of myself and making bad food choices, not...
Prepping and planning ahead when I'm going on a trip to Atlanta for three hours.
I'm not planning and putting healthy snacks.
I'm eating fast food on the road.
And so that weight came on.
Well, I lost 40 pounds as I ran for governor because I got COVID, lost 15.
And then it just kind of motivated me.
Then I kept losing.
But people were so mean.
Even in the beginning, they'd say, you can't control your weight.
How are you going to be able to run a state?
Literally, people said that to me and it hurt.
I didn't cry.
It hurt, but I thought, you know, I need to get control of my weight.
I let my weight get out of control.
And so, and I've always, you know, did beauty pageants as a child.
I've all, you know, people, oh, you're beautiful.
You're beautiful.
And I don't care about that.
I care about feeling confident and getting in front of people and speaking to be able to do what I need to do for the Lord.
And for my goals, I have set for myself that weight does hold you back.
And you're right, Eric.
After I lost weight, I felt more confident in front of people.
I felt more confident and had energy to do what I needed to do and to get it done.
And so you make small changes in your health.
And in good practices as far as your routine and getting up at the same time every day and going to bed at the same time every day and not drinking too much or whatever it is that you struggle with.
Not gambling if you're a gambler.
My daddy was a gambler.
He made terrible choices there.
So make healthy choices and it does impact every aspect of your life.
I think that's beautiful.
You are so full of wisdom today.
I'm so glad we redid this show.
It's like everybody's going to watch this and be like, wisdom nugget, wisdom nugget.
It's awesome.
I appreciate that.
I look at it.
I'm 41 years old.
I was an athlete in high school.
So I've struggled with my weight, too.
I've gained weight.
I've lost weight.
I've been all over the spectrum.
And usually, you know, you say it was a comment or something like that.
I find that and I don't want anyone to get into a depression or feel bad about themselves.
But for people who have lost significant amounts of weight, usually it was a moment where you felt shame.
And that shame was the motivator.
And, you know, maybe someone made a comment.
Maybe you looked at yourself in a photo and, oh my goodness, look at me.
And then the next day, it's like a switch.
And all of a sudden, and yeah, you're hungry.
And yeah, you don't get to eat the burger and fries.
But the idea of what you're going for is you're not going to get off that train.
And it's so easy to do.
I see all these fad diets and these secrets.
There are no secrets.
Just don't eat as much.
Just don't eat as much.
And it takes discipline.
And is it hard?
And is it sometimes just awful?
Because I'm an eater.
I love to eat.
I like big portions of food.
Again, half my family, Jewish, Eastern European, where they put a lot of emphasis on food.
Like, eat, eat, eat.
So I grew up around that.
So that mentality will never change.
But it's, you know, the idea of I remember how good I felt.
And I look at pictures, you know, when you look your best and you and and it's not just the look, but it is kind of because when you look better, you feel better about yourself and who you are when you feel good and you're riding high and your endorphins are pumping.
The person that you exude is someone that people want to be around.
I don't like this idea of fat acceptance.
I don't like it because it's not healthy and it's not true.
Because I look at these people that are grotesquely overweight that go on these videos and go like, well, you have to accept me for who I am.
You know, deep down in their heart of hearts, they don't want to look like that.
But they found an excuse.
They found an excuse that they can hang their hat on and go, well, hey, fat acceptance.
You can't body shame me.
I get to look like this.
I'm proud.
And this is beautiful.
It is not.
It is not.
I look at ads, Calvin Klein ads from the 1990s.
I look at them today.
I like when we put a little bit of emphasis on appearance.
I mean, I remember growing up, I went to college in the early 2000s where it was a big deal.
I mean, how you looked and how you dressed.
And I think we all carried ourselves a little bit better.
And I look at us now, go to Walmart, go to Starbucks, you're wearing your pajama pants, they're hanging down your butt crack.
I mean, it's come on.
I mean, let's take a little pride in ourselves.
And if we come back to that, we're going to be a better culture as a result of it.
I agree.
I agree.
And, you know, we can...
As a woman, I don't eat big portions I never have.
I want sweets.
And so for a woman, I'm listening to what you're saying.
My husband, he's thin, but he had put on a little bit of weight in his belly.
So he's been cutting back portions and he's already lost it because men lose weight faster.
And that's what these women watching this are going to think.
It's easy for you, Eric.
You're a man.
But for me as a woman, I love cookies and I love ice cream.
I love cake.
And for a woman, you release the endorphins that make us feel good and that make us feel less anxious.
And you release that serotonin and all that makes you feel really relaxed.
And so we eat our feelings.
So when we're not getting the attention we need from our spouse and they're not saying you're beautiful and they're not being romantic or we're busy and when the children are stressing us out and we've got teenagers that are, can I do this, mama?
Can I do this?
Can I do this?
It's like, let me have something sugar to give it instant gratification.
So I'm eating my feelings in sugar and Which I could care less about bread.
I could care less about all those things.
So for me, it was, okay, you can have a small mini ice cream or you can have one cookie, not 10.
And so you cut back.
You don't deprive yourself of everything, but you cut way back, like you said, portions.
And then when I eat food, that's not what I really care about.
So I just eat healthy food.
I like healthy food as good as I do.
Fat and food.
I really do.
I don't care.
I like the sugar.
So whatever works for you.
And like Eric said, it's not a fad thing.
You just do it consistently and the weight will come off.
Make it a lifestyle choice.
You know, we as Americans, namely in the last 40-50 years, we have a really unhealthy relationship with food.
I mean, you ever go to the airport, walk around the airport, you have a 45-minute layover in Orlando, so why does that entitle you to a 1500-calorie Cinnabon?
Because you're sitting waiting for a flight.
Look at the way we're inundated with food and portions and things like that.
So it just takes discipline.
It's hard work.
Yeah, the food looks great.
I'm not one of those virtue signalers that says, I hate McDonald's.
McDonald's is delicious.
And if I had no pride, I'd probably eat it all the time.
But you can't.
You have these things that taste good.
And it goes back to temptation.
Temptation may be something that It feels good physically.
It feels good for you.
But think about the shame afterwards.
You know, when you're eating that Big Mac, it tastes great.
Your taste buds are just exploding.
How do you feel 10-15 minutes later?
You feel terrible.
You look at yourself in the mirror.
You look gloated.
You don't look right.
Think about that.
Someone told me this.
And it stuck with me every time.
Because, you know, fitness is a lifestyle.
It's not just like, I'm thin and here I am forever.
How many people have lost weight and then gained it back or gained more weight back?
And, you know, we have to use the mirror.
Use your clothes.
Get off the scale because that's a bad indicator.
If you lose weight, you look at yourself and you start coming back a little bit.
Okay, let's pull it back now.
It's a lot easier to pull it back when you're 5 pounds before you get to 50 pounds.
So you start pulling it back.
But someone once told me, and these are great words, Nothing tastes as good as thin feels.
I love it.
I've heard that before.
It's a great one.
Yeah.
And it feels good to be confident in yourself and you just relate better to people.
And we were created for relationship.
That's why we were created.
And I believe that.
I don't care what God you serve.
That's why you were created.
It was for relationship.
It's important that you feel comfortable in your own skin.
It's really important.
It affects every aspect of your life.
We didn't mean to get on here.
We're a counselor and a counselor's attorney over here, but, you know, it's true.
And is there anything else you want to share before we get off?
I know you've sacrificed time for us, and my viewers are going to be so thankful.
He's going to tell you how to reach out to him.
I want you to all follow Eric.
I know he talks about morality.
That's why I wanted to talk about it today with him because his thoughts about it are a little bit different than mine.
But he challenges me every time I listen to his show when he's talking about it.
And it's good.
Eric and I are not exactly the same on everything, but we are the same on a lot of things.
And the things were not the same.
We grow from each other.
And I think that's important.
So I really want y'all to go listen to his show.
He's phenomenal.
He has great guests.
Thank you.
I appreciate that.
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Anything?
Last thoughts for everybody?
You know, just...
Just be a good person.
We all know what good and decent behavior is.
Just be good.
Treat others the way you'd want to be treated.
Be someone people want to be around.
And if we make those incremental changes in our lives, everybody says, you know, I have no voice.
I have this or that.
Someone was complaining.
I said, well, you know, I have no followers.
And I said, well, the greatest influencer in humanity only had 12 followers.
So you got 300, you're doing fine.
So think about that.
It's not about social media.
It's not about your voice.
It's about who you are and the interactions that you have with people are far greater than sharing any post on any platform.
So we have a residual effect on those around us.
So I think the better we are, the stronger we are, the more confidence and competence that we exude.
I think we're going to be a better culture as a result of it.
So it starts with you.
And, you know, go forth and be good.
100% accountable.
I love it.
Thank you, Eric.
Thank you for coming so much again.
And we love you here.
And you're welcome back anytime.
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