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Jan. 25, 2023 - Stew Peters Show
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EXCLUSIVE: The Translation of Pope Benedict's Book Will SHOCK YOU!
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Thank you.
Thank you.
I'm Edward Zoll, and I have a special guest today.
A good friend, I'd say.
I'm very blessed to know him and to read his published works on Telegram.
His name online is Pinesap.
He's known among many as a lay theologian.
I'd call him just a theologian, a very smart man in the faith.
We're going to be discussing a topic I think many people are either...
Misconstruing or completely ignoring.
There was a pretty unprecedented event this week.
Pope Benedict has published a book after death.
This book, This is Christianity, is being mischaracterized by the Western media.
The Telegraph, for example, focused heavily on a gay conspiracy among the seminarians in this wonderful faith.
I tell you this, the book writer, Would have wanted a special message to be given to the world, and he did give it.
And it was given in Italian right now.
Many people criticizing it have not read it.
Well, guess what?
We got our hands on an English copy of Pope Benedict's book, This is Christianity, and I've brought on, I would say, someone I believe to be the perfect explainer, an expert in the faith in my regard.
I'll be speaking with Pinesap in just a moment on today's edition of Crosstalk News.
Well, it's been quite a weekend.
If you're paying attention to what's happening in Ukraine, the new obsession by our elite is they want to send battle tanks to Europe.
Well, I'll tell you this.
The wars of the world don't have my attention.
They don't have it today.
The war for the souls of mankind have my attention, especially in this era.
I'm getting older.
I'm about to have kids.
I've got a wife.
I've got many friends who are trying to get deeper in the faith.
Often, I find myself at a crossroads.
Do I focus on politics, or do I focus on the faith, the eternal faith, the faith going back to Peter?
Well, from this journey, I've met some very interesting individuals.
I'd say individuals that now I read more exclusively than, let's say, Sina and Zero Hedge and the Drudge Report.
I get my information from the faithful, brothers in Christ, and those who also mentor many in the Christian nationalist movement.
One of those wonderful brothers in Christ is Pinesap, and I have him here with me today.
Welcome to Cross Stock News, Pinesap.
I know we've done a stream before, but this is something special.
We're going to do an actual interview.
So, how are you doing today?
Ed, I'm doing fantastic.
Thanks for bringing me on.
It's a pleasure.
Now, I'll tell you, it's a very important occasion.
I know that for many, many of the faithful, we're trying to figure out what to make of this new book.
Now, I think we can start with, so this book, Pope Benedict, had this published by an Italian publisher.
He had this after his death, but he'd been writing it for some time, from my understanding, right?
It's a compilation of works from 2018 to 2022.
What do we know about this book to begin with?
Yes, so the book is roughly 16 essays, some of which had been published before, about four actually.
One of the essays opened up in, or rather was revealed in the book From the Depths of Our Hearts by Robert Cardinal Seurat.
And it premiered shortly before the Amazonian Synod to defend clerical celibacy and other church practices.
And of course, it was defended at the Amazon Synod, so that was great.
But essentially, these works had not been, the roughly 12 other works, had not been published in any language before.
And Pope Benedict XVI had explicitly said that he did not want these other works published until after his death.
Well, that's already of interest because, of course, we listen to much of what the Pope has to say.
I'd say all of it.
We have great respect for the Pope.
We also have reverence as the Vicar of Christ.
I'd say that the issue up until the death of Pope Benedict, many people were pointing to...
I would say not an unnatural, but more of an unorthodox situation with a pope that had stepped down.
And this was actually addressed in the book, right?
It said Pope Benedict once again tried to let people know it wasn't a grand conspiracy, like Pope Francis wasn't waging some kind of internal war.
More, it was due to fatigue that Pope Benedict had essentially stepped down from that position and given over the seat.
But it wouldn't even be correct to say give over, correct?
It would be that the cardinals had picked and the Holy Spirit had breathed.
Is that correct?
That's correct.
You know, Pope Benedict XVI had become very fatigued.
He was always more of a theologian than really sort of anyone who wanted to, you know, be the Pope.
And it was very, I think, troubling for him to have to deal with so many of the problems that the modern age presents, you know, One of those issues where he's thinking to himself, you know, wow, I've got to govern the entire universal church.
That's crazy.
You know, I'm used to writing the book Jesus of Nazareth or Introduction to Christianity, right?
And it was a lot of stress on him.
And he actually mentions in, I believe, one of his essays that his stepping down was as a result of a lot of just this fatigue.
He was feeling, you know, he was getting a lot older and he felt as if just he couldn't really bear the trials of what it meant to be the universal shepherd of the church anymore.
It's not correct for me to even compare it to the political leaders who have done the same, but this is actually something that just happened in New Zealand.
Jakanda Ardern, the Prime Minister there, she stepped down specifically due to fatigue.
Some might say she shouldn't have become the Prime Minister anyway because she was a woman.
And I might agree with that person.
But I'll tell you this, I have watched many leaders, you know, of course, fight very hard and serve a role, commit to duty.
And the duty of the Pope is very grand.
It's very grand.
It's a shepherd, to shepherd what would say more than a billion people.
I don't think anyone else can fathom this, but often, and this is something as a I'd say as someone who was still pretty early in infancy of my faith, I only became a Christian at now will be, what, nine years ago, just under 10 years ago, still learning things daily.
I do remember first being saved and looking at how Protestant communities would address the Pope.
They would try to make these grand accusations against the Pope.
Actually, much of the right-wing media in America He loves to write hit pieces on Pope Francis or whoever.
Actually, I will look back.
This has been on for a long time.
Where I'm going with this is that because of this norm, this norm in right-wing media, the left is already terrible because they're Satanists and they have plenty of moral equivalencies that they try to justify.
They're already terrible.
But then you also have the right-wing media who's supposed to be Christian, who's supposed to be conservative.
They're attacking the Pope today.
They're the ones bringing a lot of breath to the notion that this book is somehow an attack on Pope Francis.
According to what you've read, and I sent over some of the excerpts and of course the English translation, what would you say to that?
Is this a book attacking Pope Francis?
The news broke yesterday to me as some kind of bombshell that Pope Benedict XVI had released.
And the first person I heard this from was a Twitter Bene Vecontist.
For those who don't know, A Bene Vecontus is a heretic who believes that Pope Francis is not actually the Pope and that Pope Benedict XVI was still Pope when he was alive.
And now they would roughly be Sede Vecontus, although they would not be well accepted by normal Sede Vecontus because those Sede Vecontus believe that the last Pope was Pius XII, right?
Venerable Pius XII. And so that's the way that almost the book was pitched to me from this Twitter thread I was reading about.
It was this bombshell that was, you know, meant to increase the saga of Benevecantism and show that, you know, the pontificate of our Holy Father, Pope Francis, is some anti-church and what have you, and nothing could be further from the truth.
The moment I got the English translation this morning, I managed to kind of scour it, and I especially, you know, I did the classic Control-F, typed in Francis, looked up all the places where his name appeared.
It was roughly 14 times.
And throughout the entire book, not a single negative remark about him.
Not a single one.
And that actually, it doesn't shock me, but it would have shocked me years ago when I used to buy into some of this notion that there's an antipope, right?
Because that is exactly the impression I got reading the Twitter comments about this.
The man, I believe, one of the prominent accounts on Twitter is in some form associated with Archbishop Vigano.
The man who's gotten a lot of attention for criticizing the COVID lockdowns and, of course, calling out globalism as a grand mechanism of Satanism and such.
But that man was claiming all kinds of things last night.
I don't think he said much today as people were starting to get an English copy of this book.
He was saying that this was going to prove every conspiracy from the Vatican Bank to the deep Kabbalist pedophile rings and such.
I would say the most bombastic of the claims was the claim about homosexuals being in the seminaries.
Reading through that chapter, actually, again, I have great respect for Pope Benedict.
I did not know of him during his lifetime.
I say this because I'm young in the faith.
I haven't read of all the works of the Pope.
So I was reading through this, and I'm like, this is some very, very deep theology, some very deep content.
And the part that really stuck out to me, he shared the same criticism I would have against pornography.
He addressed how pornography and sexual immorality have taken hold of modern culture.
And I would say this.
I want to read a section, first of all, to address the part in there about homosexuality.
And specifically what Pope Benedict wrote in this translated version of This is Christianity.
He said that in several seminaries, homosexual clubs were formed, which acted more or less openly, and which clearly changed the atmosphere in the seminaries.
We went on to say in a seminary in southern Germany, candidates for the priesthood and candidates for the lay office of pastoral contact lived together.
During the common meals, the seminarians were together with the married pastoral representatives, partly accompanied by their wives and children, and in some cases by their girlfriends.
The atmosphere in the seminary could not help priestly formation.
The Holy See knew about these problems without being informed of them in detail.
As a first step, an apostolic visit to seminaries in the United States was arranged.
Since the criteria for choosing and appointing bishops had also changed after Vatican II, the relationships of bishops with their seminaries was also very different.
Now I want to stop there.
What he's describing is the time period had been the 1960s, right?
This is the period of the sexual revolution.
What did you make of that, that part of the book?
Yes.
So the bit that I had read prior to us meeting here today, I had actually already known about.
There was a famous book, I believe actually written in the 1990s, called Goodbye Good Men.
And it referred to how especially a lot of seminaries in the United States were very prone to kind of shoving away Orthodox, good Catholic men who wanted to be priests and would instead embrace these Homosexualist heretics, right?
Who really are responsible for most of the abuse we saw under McCarrick and all these other bishops or cardinals who wanted to cover up any sort of abuse going on in the U.S., any priests.
you know they their perversion almost extended out to harming some of those innocent members of the church and this was not something approved by the holy see whatsoever but rather a form of just clerical corruption uh trying to destroy the mystical body of christ um you know i i sadly enough uh this isn't the first time we saw something like this in fact um In roughly the turn of
the first millennium, under the Gregorian reform of St.
Leo IX and St.
Gregory VII, in which St.
Peter Damian lived, there was a huge problem with pederasty, with homosexuality, with the worst kinds of sins imaginable.
And he wrote his fantastic tome, The Book of Gomorrah, to deal with a lot of these issues, Because there were bishops, there were priests, there were people who were engaging in these kinds of horrendous sins and abusing innocent lives as a result of them.
And so it's been something that unfortunately in certain periods of history, the Holy See has had to fight.
And I think we are kind of, We're starting to exit out of that period as we're speaking here now.
Of course, after most of the scandals broke out, the Holy See wanted to issue these reforms and get out of the way, but it takes a while to clear out the rot, right?
Well, that's the part I kind of really honed in on, is that if you read the article, you would have taken it, as Pope Benedict was saying, that there were still these conclaves of homosexuals running the seminaries.
Or, as one section noted, there were bishops and rectors that were showing pornography, pornography films to seminarians.
Now, the way I read the chapter...
It was speaking about that happening in the 60s and maybe the 70s, not in 2020.
And that was not made clear in the article, but I just read from the translation from Italian.
So how it's being used is very disingenuous and in bad faith.
But I'll tell you what is in good faith.
What's in good faith is the response that Pope Benedict had.
Now, actually, he brought up World War II. He brought up how the church is not broken.
And he actually says this, do we have to create another church for things to fix?
He says, this experiment has already been done and has already failed.
Only love and obedience to our Lord Jesus Christ can show us the right way.
Let us therefore, first of all, try to understand in a new and profound way what the Lord wanted and wants from us.
He goes on to say, if we now try to develop this essential content of God's revelation a little more broadly, we could say the first fundamental gift that faith offers us consists in the certainty that God exists.
A world without God can only be meaningless.
It can only be a meaningless world.
Indeed, where does all that come from?
In any case, it would be devoid of a spiritual foundation.
Somehow it would just be there, and it would be devoid of any purpose and any sense.
There would no longer be criteria of good and evil.
Therefore, only what is stronger would have value.
Power then becomes the only principle.
The truth doesn't count.
Actually, it doesn't exist.
Only if things have a spiritual foundation, only if they are willed and thought out, only if there is a greater God who is good and wants the good, Can human life also have meaning?" I mean, this is wonderful stuff.
I mean, you know this.
Me coming from a Protestant background, I would hold this, and this I now would hold well above it, but I would hold this in line with like Billy Graham.
Like, wow, this is inspirational, inspirational text.
This is from Pope Benedict.
I feel sad that I did not know more about Pope Benedict prior to his passage, but what did that passage make you think of?
That's nothing to do with homosexuals in seminary, but that is the chapter.
I just read what Pope Benedict said about the response of the church to homosexuals, the allegation at least, in seminar.
And it's actually about us resetting back to the roots of how we'll defeat this.
It is truly the voice of God speaking through Pope Benedict XVI in just the most certain of terms.
You know, I remember when he wrote his famous essay in his compilation, actually from roughly the 1960s, Faith in the Future, right?
And there were these wonderful, beautiful essays inside that compilation talking about how, you know, the future is going to be rough for the church.
It's going to be hard.
You know, he had spoken about how We live roughly in the time of almost the new pagans, where, you know, even those of us who claim to be Catholic, right, are operating such pagan ways, right?
We almost treat our faith like it's a philosophy amongst many, that it's not, you know, literally the only truth, but it's just one of many paths.
He very accurately portrayed the future of the church as really returning to when she was born, meaning that the church again will be small.
You know, we won't inhabit many of the cathedrals and many of the beautiful churches and Gothic architecture that, you know, our forefathers built, but But those who will be left, those who will be Catholic, those who will cling to the Ark that is the Church, will be enormously faithful, will be enormously wonderful Catholics, and will be really faithful.
I think, and I think this is in line with Pope Benedict XVI's thought, based on what he said about the Church Fathers, really a new set of Church Fathers, in some sense.
Not replacing them, but continuing on in that lineage.
And, I mean, this wonderful quotation that you recited, Ed, is...
Exactly.
His thought being made manifest by God.
Exactly.
And what a beautiful word that he left us with before he departed in the arms of the Lord.
Well, certainly.
I've heard some speak about moral equivalency, moral relativism.
When you don't believe in God, you don't believe in anything, you don't believe in good and evil, certainly there's nothing there then.
You can say that things just happen.
Bad things happen.
We don't call them bad or good because there's no such thing as bad and good, no such thing as heaven and hell.
Now, people certainly believe that up until they have to face their maker.
And as someone who's been a soldier, I know, man, they say there's no atheists in a foxhole.
That's 100% true.
Okay, I'll tell you that.
But the part here about the truth, the truth doesn't count.
Actually, it doesn't exist.
Isn't that what we're facing right now?
So many people are trying to make sense of the chaos of the air, and they're unable to process it.
I'm reading, and people say, well, there's more.
There's more news available now.
That's why we see more shootings, more chaos, more damage, more hurt people, more suicides.
And I'm like, I don't know, though.
I don't know.
It does seem, at least in my country, my community, that people are starting to really lose their minds.
And I think this may be, maybe you could speak to this, Pope Benedict was definitely pointing out that if we turn from God And we try to create our own structure.
We try to redefine what good and evil are.
I heard today someone quote Tony Robbins.
He said, there's the law of reciprocity.
If you do well to others, they'll do well to you.
It's like, oh, that's Jesus, Tony.
Okay.
Don't you plagiarize Jesus, okay?
But that's the truth, is people like that are trying to make these alternate structures.
Ultimately, the only person to give me any semblance of hope, the only person that can empower me through the Holy Spirit is Jesus Christ.
In respect to this, you did say something that caught my attention.
You said new fathers.
Do you mean like that in this era, this era of people maybe listening to what Pope Benedict has recommended here, that we would have a new generation of fighters, new warriors that are fighting for Jesus against the evil of this land?
Yes.
I mean that completely and 100%.
Because what is happening is we are living in what is called a post-Christian era.
It's very, very similar to that in which we lived under the persecutions of, say, Diocletian or Nero or any of the other enemies of the church before St.
St. Constantine the Great freed the church from her bondage under this horrid pagan state.
But this time we live in is in some ways worse because the world has already tasted the sweetness of Christ and has rebuked him.
They have left him at the cross.
They have left him at Golgotha.
And now it's like we are in this era where we're almost the last who are remaining at the cross, who are with Jesus, you know, hoping for the resurrection.
And knowing that it will come, but still being dour in our hearts to see him on that cross left and mocked by so many.
And so the reason I said that we will in some sense be a new generation of church fathers is because we will capture the same spirit that they lived under when they were persecuted, when they were martyred, when they were treated horrid and thrown to the margins of society.
We will be that spirit.
We will offer our services to those who Pope Francis says are affected by the throwaway culture, the old, the sick, the suffering, the young, who are without direction, and I already see it.
And we will give them the orthodoxy, the truth of the faith, and they'll know the gospel and love it and believe it.
And so even if we may lose very many people, you know, people in highfalutin positions in society, we will gain so much more.
We will gain a Christ-like people into the fold of Holy Mother Church.
What's so beautiful about that is I get to meet a lot of the folks I think are going to fulfill that position.
You've got to be humble, of course.
I know you have led many, many of my brothers and sisters to the faith, and we know that every single time the angels have rejoiced.
I've personally met people that, from their interaction with you, Pine Sap, they've not only bettered their life, but they have turned to a true life, to a righteous life.
Now, I found that interesting, the way that Pope Benedict opened up his book.
Chapter 1 is titled, Religions and the Christian Faith.
Now, what he says in the first chapter, the last words that Jesus spoke to his disciples were, Make disciples of all nations.
And at the moment of Pentecost, the apostles spoke in all languages, thus being able to manifest, by the power of the Holy Spirit, all the breadth of their faith.
Since then, the church has really grown on all continents.
We as Christians are convinced that, in silence, they await the encounter with Jesus Christ, the light that comes from him, which alone can lead them completely to their truth.
And Christ awaits them.
The meeting with him is not the eruption of a stranger who destroys their own culture and their own history.
Instead, it is the entrance into something greater, towards which they are on their way.
Therefore, this encounter is always, at the same time, purification and maturation.
This is very beautiful.
I mean, look, it lays down the mission.
I think that many of us, maybe, we get bogged down.
We say bogged down in the weeds, but I say we get bogged down in the evil sometimes.
We're so focused on what's happening in the day and age that we focus too heavily on what the devil's doing, right?
What the devil is doing and manifesting what Pope Benedict chose to do here.
He sought to remind, at least that's how I read it, I'd love to hear your opinion on this passage, sought to remind the faithful about what our true mission is, the Great Commission, to make disciples of all nations.
What did you make of this passage, Bynsad?
I think this passage reflects really the sort of spirit that Pope Benedict XVI was really embodying, being a part of sort of the ressourcement movement, the going back to the sources, and in this way kind of returning back to the Great Commission of Christ.
In which we see this, you know, we see Christ wanting us to, again, make disciples of all nations, but not in a way that we're selling them a product or we're asking, you know, hey, donate to our super mega church or what have you, but rather just, again, showing this love, this joy, this kindness, this life that he gives us and that so many really yearn for.
I mean, it's been said that In many of these nations that are still, unfortunately, very pagan, Christ is giving these people new life.
I believe the Synod of African Bishops wrote up a document saying, Africa, the new homeland of Christ, because so many of the African people You know, they do not have kind of the material excesses that we do in the West, and so really they look to the things of the Spirit, right?
And especially, most especially, when they encounter Christ and His Church, they look to Him, and they say, that is my Master, that is my Lord, that is my Savior, and I will give everything for Him, and I don't want anything else.
And so it is going to be very exciting to see more people come under the fold in that way and just experiencing that joy, as Pope Benedict said.
I won't say I envy them, but I do definitely think about the difference in view that they have from us.
We are seduced by our decadence, our wealth, our prosperity.
Many of us here think that we have everything figured out because we have power, we have the internet, we have a car, we have all these things that people in the third world, they're barely trying to figure out where they're going to get the next meal.
But there's a sort of humbling that comes from that.
It's much simpler.
And I won't say envy it, but I definitely ponder what it would be to have a poorer life.
A poorer life.
Maybe I'd be too poor to fall into a lot of the sins that I fall into from time to time.
And I repent of these things and I turn to God for them.
But I wonder.
Africans, they don't have to deal with pornography addiction, for example.
Maybe substance abuse.
They can't afford fentanyl.
Okay.
But the point of the matter here, and I'm looking through this again, the book, to me, it read as a love letter to the church.
Pope Benedict wanted to maybe get back to the basics, really tried to teach, really tried to teach the faithful what it means to be Catholic, what it means to be Christian.
Now, the second chapter...
It says, the title was Fundamental Elements of the Christian Religion.
And something I found to be very, they hate when I say this.
Pinessep, you can probably say it, but they hate when I say this.
They're like, you can't use this word.
I found it to be very based.
All right, actually, very based.
Now, millennials, you can say this, Pinessep, because you're one of the Zoomers.
Okay, millennials and boomers should not be using the term based, okay?
But what it says here, he was addressing the cults of Baal.
This is very interesting.
I wouldn't, you know, not to see a pope speak about in this manner.
Of course the pope knows and speaks against the devil.
But I want to read this to you and get your thoughts on this.
The Old Testament author sees in this the essence of the religion of Baal and sees expressed here the basic contrast with the faith in the God of the fathers.
The cults of Baal are cults of fertility, in which the frontier between God and man dissolves.
In an unparalleled debauchery, the divine is dragged down and its dignity is deformed.
In this sense, the cults of Baal reveal themselves to be the authentic reason for the moral destruction of the peoples, from which the country must be freed.
It goes on to say, the only God is above all human realities.
In the pure transcendence that is proper to him, he is at the same time a guarantee of man's dignity.
The fight for the living God against Baal is a fight for man's justice, which is expressed concretely from the fourth to the tenth commandment.
The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the God of Sinai, disposed all the whole earth.
He could send his people to Egypt for centuries.
He could snatch them from Pharaoh's violence, and he could lead them through the desert to the promised land.
And even there, he could cause him to be defeated and exiled to Babylon.
He was not the God of a specific country, nor only the God of that specific people.
In the time of exile, the concept of creation becomes central.
God is the creator of heaven and earth.
He alone created the world from nothing.
He alone is truly God.
This is beautiful.
This is beautiful.
I mean, but in the sense here...
He is addressing a lot of the enemies and devils we fight today.
But more than this, addressing it in a manner for, I think, the church to understand how we're fighting our enemy.
And it's not through me.
It's not through you.
It's through him, right?
You and I can't fight a demon.
I can't do that.
Though some want to, they want to get fistfights with a demon.
I don't know how well we'd fare in that.
I do think an angel, someone's going to intervene.
But what did you think of this passage in chapter 2?
When Moses asks in the book of Exodus, what shall I tell the people your name is?
God responds very simply to us.
Yahweh, I am who I am.
Now this, as Dr.
E. Michael Jones says, was a hard concept for Moses to understand.
I am who I am.
What does he mean by that?
God is.
God is existence.
God is life, and nothing exists outside of him.
You know, Dr.
Edward Fazer says, if God for a moment, because he eternally generates everything to exist right now, this table I'm sitting at, this flag right next to me, this whole room I'm in, myself, if God ceased to eternally generate any of these things, there would not even be a puff of smoke, but I would just disappear.
I wouldn't exist at all.
And so in that way, God being everything and being meaning itself, he transcends the false gods that so many had come to believe as a result of the fall.
And these gods were always of flesh and clay and violence and hate and blood.
They were never transcendental.
They could die, and they wouldn't resurrect.
Or if they did resurrect, it was in this magical, runic understanding.
But they were not eternal.
They did not exist out of time and space.
Rather, they existed in time and space.
The pagan authors tried to understand that, you know, God was so much more than Zeus and Apollo and Thor and Odin.
You know, they were mocked for it.
They were derided.
They were told, you're crazy.
But as we recall a story written about St.
Anastasios, who used to, before bed, go and curse Plato and say, you know, damn Plato, right?
You know, Plato was awful.
When he finally passed away in the arms of our Lord and he was in heaven and he saw Plato, he asked Plato, you know, why are you here?
You know, you were a pagan.
You weren't Christian.
You weren't Jewish.
Why are you here?
And Plato responded to him, when Christ descended into hell, I was the first to believe.
Wow.
And it was because so many, even those who were not a part of the Israelites, yearned for God.
They were made for God.
We were all made for God.
Jew and Gentile, as the book of Galatians says, free and slave, man and woman.
And so our hearts cry out to God and we say, Yahweh, I need you.
Yahweh, Adonai, Father, I need you.
And if I don't have you, I don't have anything, right?
And so, in that way, Pope Benedict XVI recodifies this.
He understands that God is transcendent amongst everything.
And He's real because He is reality itself.
There's nothing outside of Him.
And that's beautiful.
It means He made us only for His own enjoyment and joy.
And that's something that I think we could meditate on forever.
I think we're going to meditate quite long after this interview, Pinesap.
It's always a pleasure speaking with you.
There's one last chapter that I'd like to address, and you mentioned the Jews.
So chapter 3, actually, it had a very interesting passage about the dialogue with Jews as Christians.
Now, we know, I'm not going to listen to the ADL per se, but we know that there's been an increased discussion, an increased discussion about Jewish power and issues in society from slavery to pornography and the Jewish role in it.
Banking, too, okay?
But the part of note is that I think that the many, the faithful, they're very careful on this subject.
I think many people are afraid of a bad label.
Many people are afraid to address the topics that are now being discussed in bars and in circles among Christians and Bible studies even.
Look at Yeh, for example, the things that Yeh addressed.
I know from the conversations I have with the faithful that this is an uncomfortable topic, and it's because the identity of what we are as Christians.
Many of us, we don't understand our roots.
Maybe this is, again, why Pope Benedict rather went this route.
Pope Francis obviously supporting Pope Benedict and much what he did in his later life.
I want to read this passage and get your take on this, Pinessep.
This is from chapter 3.
To the average Bible Belt Republican, Jews are seen as freedom-loving, formerly oppressed people who worship the God of the Old Testament, see Jesus as a prophet, but are awaiting the Messiah of peace.
However, something that is severely lacking in rabbinical Judaism of today is the ability to atone for sin.
At the heart of Old Covenant worship was the altar for sacrifice and atonement at the temple.
Christ prophesied the temple's destruction, and just as the Passover lamb was sacrificed for the sake of the Hebrews' freedom from slavery, Christ gave himself as a sacrificial lamb of God as the final necessary temple sacrifice for the atonement of the sins of all mankind, not just the Israelites.
The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, which is a representation of the sacrifice at Calvary, allows both Jew and Gentile all over the world to receive the body and blood of the Lamb of God and to enter the kingdom of heaven.
Without the temple, Judaism was not able to offer the same kind of sacrificial atonement, especially given the spora that happened under the Roman persecution before, during, and after the destruction of the temple.
No longer tied to a single holy location where atonement and sacrifice were available.
Jews who rejected Christ were forced to reconcile with the fact that everything they believed had to be revised, and thus the tradition of rabbinical Judaism began.
Wow, there's a lot in there.
Pine said, what are you thinking about this?
I think he hits the nail on the head in really the most concrete of ways in regards to the fact that when the temple collapsed, you know, Christ had built up the temple which was his body, right?
His mystical body.
And Israel had become the church.
It had become the place where all of God's children would be reconciled.
Anyone who called upon the name of the Lord, anyone who accepted him, And I think this was hard for most of the Jews at the time and the Pharisees to understand because their perception of the law had lost the central motif, which was to love God, to serve God, to give everything to God and love him with one's full heart.
The law had kind of become something in of itself.
And God made the law so that we would be reconciled with him.
And so when the temple collapsed, it signified that this old covenant had been not broken, but fulfilled in Jesus Christ.
And the new covenant had been ushered in, in which all men are called to be a part of it.
And the sad thing is that persisting in this belief of the old covenant is, you know, it's almost like waiting for, I hate to use a sophomoric analogy, but it's like waiting for your dry cleaning to be done.
And it was done, you know, five days ago, seven days ago, months ago, you know, and you're still waiting for this dry cleaning to be done, right?
Because it no longer gives life, right?
You know, Jesus himself said, do you think yourself justified by the law?
Can you follow every single law?
Can you follow it perfectly?
And the Pharisees...
He did not rebuke the Pharisees for wanting to be faithful, but that they were hypocritical.
They would criticize a man for carrying his mat on the Sabbath, but then they would take up the greatest place in the synagogue.
They would praise themselves.
They would pray in the marketplace and exalt themselves.
And this attitude did not represent exactly what the Father's will and what the Son's will.
And so in that way, Pope Benedict XVI is revealing the central mystery to Christianity, that there is only one covenant, and that is the Catholic Church.
And so I think that we must call upon, and I've been very serious in this mission, in fact, I've wanted to start this in his And really, his honor and the work that he's done, I want to evangelize to the Jewish people the best I can and help spread the gospel to them and realize that,
you know, Adonai, the Lord, has, you know, created this church for all men to be a part of, and we are all welcome to this new covenant, and it is a joyous covenant to partake in.
I'm with you on that.
I think that while I have criticisms of some of the actions of Jewish people on this earth, my heart is for them not to spend eternity in the lake of fire.
And I count myself blessed to have brothers in Christ like you, Pinesap, to fight for this mission in this age.
I know there's more in the book to go over, but I've run out of time on this occasion.
I'll definitely be inviting you back, Pinessep.
Of course, where can people find your work?
I know that you're the co-host of Logos Triumphant.
I'm a daily watcher when it's up.
I watch at least one episode a week, a weekly watcher, should I say.
But where can people find more information about your, I'd say your, not so much theology, because you know what your theology is?
You're a devout Catholic.
Where can they find more things about your takes and your explanations for the chaos of the age?
Yes, so I have a YouTube channel.
Just, you know, if you type in Pinesap, you should be able to find me.
I have telegram t.me slash the narrow way.
And then really, you know, cozy.tv slash Spexo.
That's where me and Spexo's show is.
And I think I just about hit every...
Oh, and my Instagram is at pinesap3, too.
You can also find me there.
Excellent.
Well, thank you so much for joining me in today's edition of Crosstalk News.
God bless you, brother, and take care.
Wow.
And so that's probably the most Christian episode of Crosstalk News we've ever had.
It's rare that we get to talk with other brothers in Christ about our faith, but you know what?
We really should be doing that more often.
I'm looking forward to bringing on Pine Sap whenever we have a discussion about holidays, anything Christian-related, life in general.
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