🚨BREAKING: REX VS BOOMER! Watch this fascinating generational street interview/discussion on the Iran War! This Boomer thought he had all the answers... You decide! https://t.co/fN4CcAgJ6l
Rex Jones confronts an Austin "boomer" regarding the Iran war, where the interviewee argues military action is necessary chemotherapy against a "cancer," dismissing nuclear timelines and comparing Obama to Chamberlain. While blaming Hamas and Iran for Gaza's conflict and citing Tulsi Gabbard on the Ayatollah's alleged FATWA, he simultaneously condemns civilian killings and supports Bernie Sanders over endless foreign wars. Ultimately, the exchange highlights a generational clash between hawkish interventionism and domestic-focused skepticism, challenging listeners to decide if the interviewee's nuanced perspective holds water against Jones's critique of circular logic. [Automatically generated summary]
I think our politicians today, who are baby boomers, have fucked this country up.
That's why I gave Bernie Sanders so much money.
We came out here to West Campus looking for answers.
We wanted to see how the American people felt.
Were they pro- or anti-war?
Now, I was thinking I'd talk to a lot of younger people that were passionate about being anti-war, and there was a fair share of that.
But there was also the boomer, the appearance of the wild boomer and the debate, discussion, argument with him.
What is it about?
What is the soul of the boomer?
Is the boomer self-loathing?
Does the boomer engage in what aboutism?
Why do they support Israel?
Why do they support endless wars in the Middle East?
Well, you're about to find out, and it's up to you to decide who you agree or disagree with.
I'm Rex Jones with Gray Area, Gray Area Network, out here on the streets of Austin, Texas, getting the work in, on the field, getting things done.
Look, this whole war in Iran is a shitty proposition, but it is a necessary one.
Okay.
Because Iran has been a cancer in the Middle East for a long time.
And this war is like chemotherapy, getting rid of the cancer.
It's a no-win situation.
I've studied history for a long time.
And we tried the appeasement and make a deal with them.
And that's what Obama did.
But that was very much like what Neville Chamberlain did in 1938.
With Hitler, you're referring to.
You can't make peace with people who are crazy.
The Nazis were crazy.
These guys running Iran are crazy.
You can't make, you can't reason.
I have a question.
So Netanyahu has been saying that they're going to have a nuke for about 37 years.
And this is the big thing.
Do you think they've always been that close to a nuclear weapon?
Is that the main concern in your mind?
Is that what gets you out to vote?
I think that Iran, it doesn't matter if they're going to have it in 37 years tomorrow or in 50 years.
I don't care.
The fact of the matter is, these guys, because of their belief system, they're fanatics.
And they don't give a fine of what happens.
If they got these kind of weapons, we use them.
If they got nuclear weapons, we use them.
Because it's part of their poor fanatical religious belief system.
Okay, what do you think about us killing the Ayatollah, the man who had the FATWA, the religious order to ban nuclear weapons?
What do you think about us killing that guy?
He signed a, it's a crime against God over there to have a nuke.
I would like to believe it, but I don't believe it.
I don't think...
Two CIA Senate reports...
You can watch Tulsi Gabber talk about it live on YouTube.
Look it up right now.
I understand what you're saying.
And, you know, I just think that my problem is I know too much about history.
That's the thing.
And unfortunately, we have to do this.
It stinks.
It sucks.
I've lost a lot of money because of it.
It's inconvenienced a lot of people.
It's hurt a lot of people, killed a lot of people.
But you have to look at what Iran has done ever since this has been run by these nutcakes.
Is the United States subservient to the state of Israel?
No, I do not believe that.
I'm not anti-Semitic.
I'm pro-Israel.
And the reason why I'm pro-Israel is because I think, have you ever been to Dachau?
You're talking about the Holocaust and stuff like that, right?
What does that have to do with the modern state of Israel?
It has everything to do with it.
Because if you go there or you go to Auschwitz, you're going to see what happened to them.
And they have the right to return to what was originally one of their home, their homeland.
I understand the policy.
3,000 years ago, the Bible says and all of that.
Yeah, and by the way, that's interesting you bring that up because there's a lot of Bible prophecies coming true anyway.
So we got biblical dispensationalist stuff.
Very interesting.
Everything, everything.
It's all in the prophecies.
And I mean, I'm not a fanatical, believe me.
I'm very, very moderate on a lot of things.
But you got to look at things in shades of living color, not in black and white.
And that's the problem.
Americans like to do this or that.
We got the two extremes in this country.
I'm stuck in the middle.
I just wish people would start talking to each other instead of arguing.
Okay, so you talk about Dachau.
What about Gaza?
What about the Palestinian genocide?
You're right.
What a great question.
Why aren't we going after Hamas for that?
Hamas started that.
It pisses me off when they get all these demonstrations.
Hamas is behind it.
This goes back.
And who's behind Hamas?
It's Iran.
This is what I'm talking about with the cancers.
Now, here's the deal.
If you study the Nazis and the Germans, as late as early 1945, the Germans were influenced by the Nazis, and they were so afraid of the Nazis at the same time.
And yet they would say, we know that our country's being destroyed by Allied bombs, but we have faith in the Fuhrer.
Okay, so what does that have to do with when they shut down the UN aid centers?
They say the Hamas is stealing the food or whatever.
They shut down the 400 UN aid centers.
They have four GHF ones they set up.
Between, I believe it was June and August, they killed about 2,000 people and they wounded about 12,800.
What do you think about them shooting into the crowds of people?
It's not Israel.
Have you seen the footage of the dead kids and the bombs?
Hold on, take a deep breath now.
Okay.
All right.
The latest time I read the news, which was about two hours ago, they were talking about how, and this was yesterday also, by the way, Iran is doing the same old trick that Hamas did and Hezbollah did as well.
They're moving their rocket launchers in the most densely parted area part areas of Tehran.
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You know why?
So they can say, oh, you destroyed, you killed all these babies, you killed all these people.
They actually believe that.
I'm going to interrupt you.
I let you talk for a while.
What do you think about the school we blew up?
You know, the 160, 180 kids?
Is that a casualty of war?
Trump says it's a tomahawk and that Iran has it.
And what do you think about that?
We did that.
It was a mistake.
But that's okay.
Do you believe in the nuclear bomb when we used it in Japan?
I think you believe in genocide, to be honest with you.
Yes, you do.
Yes, you do.
If you support Hamas, then you believe in genocide.
Have you seen the aerial footage of Gaza before and after the genocide?
Nothing to do with Israel.
Who dropped the bombs?
You've been dancing around.
Wait, who started the war?
The war was started by Hamas.
It was engineered by Iran.
They're all together.
That's why they're a cancer.
They can't.
You know, there were four times when they could have had a two-state solution.
You know that.
Go ahead and get into it then.
Well, they turn it down.
Yeah?
There's no such thing.
Who funded Hamas over the PLO and made sure they rose to power?
B.B. Net and Yahoo.
Who engineered the entire situation to stay out of jail?
B.B. Net and Yahoo.
Are you a boomer?
You sound like a boomer to me.
You sound like you're pro-Iran.
I'm pro-America.
I'm pro-anti-foreign entanglement.
That's the pipe dream.
Oh, see, the people that have done this to our country and paid taxes into the system and voted for decades and decades and decades, you've made America worse.
Are you aware of that?
Well, I think we have.
I totally agree.
I think our politicians today, who are baby boomers, have fucked this country up.
That's why I gave Bernie Sanders so much money.
See, I'm not a conservative or a sprout head.
I'm right in the middle.
I just want what's good for the country and good for the world.
So war and foreign entanglement and billions of dollars being spent in Israel and Ukraine is good for the country.
What would that money do for the people that can't eat here, the people that are on the street?
That's a whole different thing.
The people on the street, most of them are drug addicts.
Or they're mentally ill.
There's one third of them, and I've studied this in depth.
There's one third of them, though, that they're homeless, at no fault of their home.
They want to get a job.
They want to get established.
We ought to be getting those people housing.
The other ones, they should be forced back into institutions.
Here's the problem with that.
The Republicans and libertarians say, we don't want to spend money on good institutions and bringing in doctors.
See how fucked up we are?
Once again, back to your point.
That's what the baby boomers have done.
And I'm embarrassed about it.
I'm more than happy to take responsibility for what our fucking generation did.
Okay, but don't you see how the pro-war culture has contributed to the decline of America over the years?
I mean, $9 trillion spent in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Let me ask you something.
What would you have done in 1939 when Hitler invaded Poland?
We're not in World War II.
No, no, you've got to understand your history because we keep repeating it.
This is a non-sequitur.
What does this have to do with the current topic?
It absolutely is.
We just don't know your history.
That would be why.
Okay, let's talk about history.
Let's talk about Churchill and the mass bombing of cities like Dresden.
Do you think that's justified?
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I agree.
That was terrible.
Once again, I don't think that was right.
But once again, you've got to go to the root.
Who started the war?
The Germans said.
So if someone does something bad, that means you get to kill civilians.
Do you think it's okay for everyone to have done what Churchill wanted to do, sit on their hands and let Hitler take over?
Churchill, I think you're talking about Chamberlain.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
Thank you for correcting me.
I mean, Chamberlain.
Chamberlain thought that we could appease Hitler.
Even when the Germans were conquering France, they still thought we could negotiate with Hitler.
You can't negotiate with crazy people.
Hitler was crazy.
The people running Iran are crazy.
Okay, what do you think about the biblical declaration of Amalek?
Do you think the Palestinians are Amalek?
You got to educate.
Okay, so you're not aware of this.
Netanyahu.
That's why I'm asking.
Netanyahu declared that the Palestinian people that they're fighting in the Gaza War, he declared them Amalek.
And what happens in the Bible?
They kill man, woman, child, animal.
It's a biblical genocide.
He declared them Amalek.
You can't argue with it.
It's on tape.
Do you support that?
Of course not.
Okay.
But I'm not pro-Hamas and I'm not pro-Iran.
Iran started this shit, not Israel.
Well, no, no, but we attack first.
That's actually not true.
That's a total falsehood.
Israel and America launched the missile attacks.
Israel started the 12-day war.
They launched the initial strike.
You're talking about Gaza.
Okay, you're bouncing.
No, you're talking about Iran, son.
No, I am, because it's all intertwined, don't you understand?
You're bouncing around, all right?
No, I'm not.
No, I'm not.
You're doing the tap dance.
No, I'm not doing.
You're doing the tap dance.
I'm not so sure about that.
You don't acknowledge.
You say it's horrible, but it's not a genocide.
What's the line?
What do you want to do?
What do I want to do?
I want to get us out of the Middle East.
Okay, that would be great.
I was against the war in Vietnam.
I know about all this shit.
I volunteered to go into Bosnia and we brought in the Muslim kids who are being terrorized in the war zones.
Don't tell me I don't know about war.
What does that do with the Middle East?
Because did you know, for an example, that Iran way back then told the Muslims in Bosnia, we're going to send in 10,000 jihadists to support you.
We're going to set up an independent Muslim state that's going to be pro-Iran.
Did you know that?
You think America is so innocent?
We set up ISIS and Al-Qaeda.
I mean, this is all, it's a ridiculous game.
We're the heroes.
They're the villains.
We have mandate to kill them.
See, this is my whole point, my friend.
Black, white, life is in living color.
You're taking.
Murder is murder.
Murder is murder.
Murder of civilians is murder.
That's what you support.
That's a system you've paid into.
So why do you support the fact that the people in Israel have had their buses blown up with little children in them?
Are you okay?
I don't support that.
That's completely insane.
I dream not to say one thing without the other.
It's all bad.
It's all bad, but you can't justify it by saying, later on, go ahead and build nuclear weapons.
They said how many times, as soon as they have them, they're going to wipe us out.
That's not true.
That's not true.
We killed the guy that had the FATWA, the religious order to classify them as a crime against God.
We killed the Ayatollah.
That was not a smart move.
We killed their fucking Pope, man.
You like killing the Muslim Pope?
You think that's a good move for geopolitics?
There are bad Catholic popes.
There are bad Baptist leaders.
There are bad Muslim leaders.
You can't say that every religion has a good leader.
They all have bad leaders.
There are good ones, but not this guy and not some of the other ones in the past.
That's what I'm saying.
Okay.
They're doing black and white again.
All right.
Living color.
Well, this is the boomer opinion.
It's all a shade of gray.
It is what it is.
Thank you for your time.
Appreciate it, man.
God bless you.
Holy Toledo, man.
It's not black and white.
It's shades of living color.
You know, I guess, like, there's different ways to barbecue a baby, right?
If you do it one way, it might be okay because it's a shade of living color.
It's all these pretty metaphors for death and destruction for bombs that we pay for.
For bombs, that guy spent his entire life paying into.
Okay?
So, but you can see, like, they can pretty well defend their circular logic and they're not willing to break with it.
I think the younger people, we even had a lady walk by us and say free Palestine, which I support, by the way, Free Palestine.