Duncan Trussell and Alex Jones explore how elites suppress knowledge to maintain control, alleging that advanced technology functions as magic while humanity serves as a boot system for interdimensional entities. They discuss the Bohemian Grove's occult rituals, MKUltra's alleged plans to poison vaccines, and the Pentagon's vision of an intergalactic communication system designed to harvest human subconscious data via AI. The conversation extends to claims that smart TVs contain NSA microphones, former FBI whistleblower Kyle Seraphin uncovered 14.6 terabytes of hidden data linking Democrats to Epstein, and billionaire Peter Nygaard runs a stem cell harvesting operation in New Mexico, suggesting a global conspiracy where genetic engineering and brainwave monitoring will soon strip free will from the population. [Automatically generated summary]
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Meeting Bill Hicks00:05:06
Alex Jones, I got to tell you right away, man, you are in my top three dream guests for this podcast.
I've wanted you on this show for so long, and thank you for.
Well, I wanted to come on.
I'm a huge fan of your Trevor before I even met you like 15 years ago with Joe.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Oh, listen, you know, that's where I first met you was through Joe, not in the flesh, but when I got to be friends with Joe, we go over to his house, get stoned, and we had like old school InfoWars, Alex Jones stuff on VHS, and we'd sit and watch it and just freak the fuck.
You know, I've known Joe since like, I met him in 98, we didn't get to know him as friends since 99, but he called in on 9-11.
When I was saying they blew up the towers, he was like, he was like, you're going too far.
And I'm not criticizing he said that because it was the day of, but I'm always proud that Joe called in on 9-11.
Wow.
One of the things you called, you're known for having predicted a lot of things that have happened.
And, you know, before we get into that stuff, I wonder if you could shed a little light on how you got on this path.
Because, you know, I was doing some research on you, saw you were a, your dad was a dentist.
You're a football player.
And I'm trying to picture.
And you and I, we're the same age.
So we have the same sort of memories as far as global events go and stuff.
And I'm thinking back when I was in high school.
And, you know, you meet somebody, they derail you.
They introduce you to music or whatever.
Who introduced you?
Who is the first person who started showing you that maybe things aren't exactly the way the news makes them seem?
Well, I know where you heard I was a football player.
I did play football until I was like a sophomore and I was terrible.
So I was good enough to be on the team and get run over and get bones broken.
You were a football player, man.
And you could see it.
You could see it to this day.
Like you've got that athletic thing going on.
I was good enough to make the team and get run over.
I was like, I can't believe I'm on this team.
I actually quit because I don't mind getting hurt for a reason, but I'm actually wimped out.
Okay.
Well, but where did you- They put me on varsity when I was like a junior and I was being run over by huge black dudes.
And I was like, I've had enough of this.
So I'm actually a huge pussy.
I don't know where I got in the lore of that, but play football.
I did.
I grew up in Rock Wallace, suburb of Dallas, and my dad was a dentist, and my mom had like a degree in history, was a homemaker.
But I've told the story before, but maybe you didn't know it.
People always go, oh my God, he's a spy.
No, I mean, I had my mom's brother was an Iran contract with Army Special Operations.
And then I had some other family out of World War II that had done stuff in World War II.
And they were always talking bad about the government and the plan for a world government and all this stuff.
So it was kind of background noise just growing up, hearing about this stuff.
And so I think that kind of primed me.
I didn't really have an interest in politics until we moved out here when I was about a junior in high school.
My dad sold us in the office.
We moved down to Austin.
And Waco happened right after that.
And then we were just watching the news.
All this stuff was happening.
Can I stop you on Waco, please?
Because I don't know.
This is something that occurred to me.
And it's really crazy.
You were at Waco with Bill Hicks.
Bill Hicks went up there to film some stuff.
And Timothy McVay.
You, Timothy McVay, Bill Hicks, and obviously Koresh were at Waco at the same time.
Now, you're the only survivor of those four.
You know, Timothy McVay executed Bill Hicks, pancreatic cancer.
But I just think about, how come someone hasn't just made a movie about those days when people were coming up there to see this horror that was happening, to see this thing that was probably confirming for you all that background noise that you were hearing?
Well, sure.
I mean, just to be clear, I had just gotten out of high school.
Yeah.
And so I was here in Austin.
And I did go up there and talk about it, but I hadn't even gotten in media yet.
So I technically was there right after it happened, not right when it blew, but like the days after.
And so it was bizarre that was going on.
And then I met Kevin Booth, who I met Joe Rogan through, a comedy producer, and he'd been Bill Hicks' producer.
And so that's where that crazy rumor started that I'm Bill Hicks, which is hilarious.
is a huge compliment and I'll tell you I don't think I'm gonna look much like him though I know.
One late night, I went down that rabbit hole.
I'm looking at pictures of you and Bill Hicks.
And, you know, because you are funny.
I mean, that's one of the things that's really interesting about you.
You're kind of like a gonzo journalist.
You're some kind of like combination of like, oh, God, Hunter S. Thompson.
You've got some Hunter S. Thompson in you, but you're a journalist.
You're a journalist.
You're a hard worker, too.
I can't imagine what your schedule is like, but you have this, this incredible mixture of, of things that just, what's weird is I never try to put myself in a story.
It just, if you, anytime you go out, you've done it.
Anytime you go out and do stuff in the real world, you get sucked into it.
So the story becomes you because you're there.
Yeah, right, sure.
And the only way to tell it is you're from your perspective.
Witnessing Waco's Ruins00:12:28
Right.
But tell me about those days you were up there in Waco witnessing the smoldering ruins of this like home where I don't know how many kids were incinerated by Janet Rena.
What was that?
Well, I had just got out of high school and Access TV started in Austin and New York.
They debate where it started first, like 40 years, 45, whenever it was in the, whenever it was, a long time ago.
And so there were all these activists that were doing their own things and shooting interviews and stuff.
And I was going down there right out of high school right as it happened, wanting to be involved.
And I said, well, just get in this van with us.
We're going up there.
And we're talking to survivors, the few they just let out of jail.
And we're going after the site and it's still black.
And they're like going, look, they say they didn't use CS tear gas, but here's the illegal canister.
And Jesus.
Leslie Clark, the former attorney general, you know, and her famous presidents is showing up and it's like this murder scene.
Yeah.
And they're going, yeah, the Dole deForce was over here.
And I'm like 18 years old hearing all this.
And it was all, so people asked how I got involved.
It was so exciting.
It wasn't watching a Marvel comic movie.
It wasn't some fantasy thing.
To me, I didn't understand any of it.
I was just, I wanted to get into media.
I was right out of high school, and I went into some community college and stuff, but they were after that.
But it was like they were teaching me like 30-year-old stuff from RTF right in the television film.
So everybody said, go do an access show.
And so I had right out of high school by 93 for taking the classes, by 94, gotten on air.
And we're still trying to find those original tapes.
We have Tapes Back to 95.
But back then, it was like a show once a month.
So it was literally just me, a young kid, trying to figure out, you know, and kind of then, everybody said, oh, this guy's a great liberal because I was against the police, the military burning down a church, and I was anti-war.
And so I kind of got in with the cool libertarian liberals, which really don't really exist much anymore.
Right.
Because back then they were anti-war.
They were all homeopathic, vitamins, anti-vaccine.
And so I resonated with that whole group in Austin, which, quite a friend, I look back on was a bunch basically like hippies.
Right.
That's it.
But a lot of them had like businesses or were doctors or city council members, but they were cool liberals.
Right.
Like the old school liberals.
Liberals.
Like, yeah, which I don't really find a lot.
But back then, liberals were pretty cool, actually.
Well, yeah, you know, and that's a kind of, that's something that we've all witnessed is this bizarre mutation of liberals into somehow they're now kind of into war.
They like liberals were always the guys that knew about esoteric and hallucinogens and war.
And they could also shoot a gun and they were fun and they were like intellectuals.
Right.
And then it became like cult members' bots to just nuke, nuke, nuke Russia, you know, cut kids' dicks off.
Right.
It's one of the strangest things.
And, you know, I think that what probably happened there is just the evolution of the machine that you have been so talented at outlining.
That it figured out a way to not resist.
But to co-op its main opposition.
That's it.
That's it.
And it's the most sinister fucking thing.
Well, Joe always talks about it because he saw the documentary I made.
When they really got the left was WTO 1999, you have 100,000 liberals out saying, we're not handing over our sovereignty to the World Trade Organization, U.S. sovereignty.
And so they hired Antifa to attack the police so they would have an excuse to arrest them.
Right.
Arrest the peaceful people.
And that's where, yeah.
And then the left kind of, the NGOs kind of capitulated.
And then, you know, the liberal organizations just bowed down.
Like the ACLU used to defend the KKK marching.
Right.
I hate the KKK, but I agree with Defendium.
Now they don't.
Right.
And that was the start of that.
Right.
Yeah.
And you've witnessed this.
And, you know, it's, you know, the term Orwellian, it gets used too much these days.
But I think if George Orwell saw what the current surveillance state looks like.
You'd say my prediction came true.
I think he'd say, holy fuck, it would be better to live in that world that he was then at so fert.
You know, it's there.
This shit that's happening right now is so subtle that you don't even know for sure what's real anymore.
But there's, I think most people have a sense that they're being nudged.
Every time you go online, you're being nudged by the algorithm a little bit.
You know, when you get around, you know, NLP neuro-linguistic programming, you know, you get around one of those motherfuckers.
You can tell they're talking.
Right.
Obama doesn't.
Yeah, he does, doesn't he?
Holy shit.
You get a weird feeling around them.
Well, I even catch myself like being hit with like Ka the Snake and Jungle book.
I'm like, I know this is bullshit, but God, it sounds good.
Yes, but it's all, it's like, it's a gross feeling, man.
It's like when a dude puts his hand on your lip.
It's that sense of like, what the fuck are you doing?
And so that's what it feels like right now going online.
You're getting some kind of conditioning, whether you want it or not.
Maybe it's not from a state entity, but from the corporate entity.
Well, you know, something key.
I've been studying this stuff for 35 years on Air 32, and I have to spend a lot of brain power discerning what's real, what's not, what's twisted, and it's exhausting.
People that don't have it, who have been saying this, I don't know how they dealt with it because it's, I mean, my middle daughter's really smart.
She's 18.
And she said to me yesterday, we went shooting bows at one of my friends' houses, just in their backyard.
And she said, Dad, are we really attacking Iran?
Because I saw it on TikTok.
I know there's a lot of AI.
And she's really smart about all this stuff.
And I said, no, honey, it's true.
But I said, but secondarily, we can't believe most of what we hear from Iran or the U.S. Right.
So I said, the truth is, she goes, well, what's happening?
And I said, I don't know.
Oh, dude, that's scary.
I was just talking to Josh about this.
You know, I can't imagine what your sources are.
Mine are shitty.
I got 4chan, X. You know, I just look at what's going, like the most recent posts, and 80% of the stuff on X is AI.
So you're going to see they're firebombing Tel Aviv.
It's not real.
None of it's real.
You go to the live stream of Tel Aviv.
It's fine.
U.S. ship sunk by a missile.
It's AI.
It's AI.
So it's pure signal jamming right now.
We have no idea what's going on.
You can't, if you go to the media.
Well, the first rule of intelligence is whatever you first are told isn't true.
Right.
So what do you think is going on over there?
What's your analysis of this?
Well, you have to always go to original war doctrine.
The Iranian war doctrine, Israel's war doctrine, the U.S. war doctrine, China's war doctrine, Russia's war doctrine, and the other parties involved in North Korea.
And then out of that war doctrine, and my sources already previously had, we knew what the plan was.
Decapitate.
You know about these allergies in Austin.
Yeah, I know.
About sick folks, it just causes.
I'm sorry.
It's driving me crazy.
Got some water.
Come on, all right.
I got some coffee.
Water, too.
First, they need to Decapitate the Iranians, Iranian leadership, then destroy their air defenses, and then destroy their main military and their navy.
So, so that's pretty much happening.
But Trump said nine months ago in June, this is about taking out their nuclear sites.
That wasn't true.
That was just getting us used to this.
Right.
And so now it is about basically sleepwalking us into a full war.
Now, today, Trump said he may support boots on the ground.
So, overall, I've been supportive of Trump because he was disruptive to the globals.
They didn't want him at first.
Yeah.
But more and more, it looks like he's pretty much starting to join them.
And so, just like NATO and the EU slipwalked us into war with Russia, we're being slipwalked into full war with Iran.
I think it's bad.
What happens to American presidents?
What the fuck is it that happens that inevitably, no matter what they say, inevitably they just turn into the same person.
They just turn into somebody who's going to drop bombs somewhere in the Middle East.
They have the very best CIA briefers, the very best psychologists.
They keep them up.
They give them threats.
They put this responsibility on them that there's imminent doom.
And then they just know how to psychologically manipulate them.
Right.
They come to you and they're like, listen, you're going to, here's the info that we've got.
You can't share this with the American people, but if you don't do this, we're fucked.
And that's what they do.
And then you have to trust them.
And maybe it's.
And it's not like the adversaries aren't horrible people.
It's just that if you study the Middle East, I can go on for an hour about this, but 130 years ago, the British draw the lines, 120 years ago.
Yeah.
They do it with groups that will fight with each other, volcanization.
And then the U.S. comes in in 53 and overthrows Mosadec.
It was pro-America, but didn't want to give all the oil money to him.
And then they use Shiites to overthrow him and double-cross them, put the Shaw in.
The Shaw goes sideways.
The CIA behind the scenes undermines Carter.
Yeah.
Helps put in the Ayatollah Khomeini.
Then, as soon as Reagan was selected, they released hostages.
They do Iran content for weapons to fight communists in Central South America.
So this is all declassified.
Just like right before Trump got in, they overthrew Assad finally.
Israel, NATO, and Turkey put the leader of Al-Qaeda in charge.
It's just like Obama funded the Arabs praying to overthrow our allies and put the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.
Just like Israel founded Hamas in the 80s, they admit that because they said, we don't want mainline politicians that want hotels and want them in bikinis.
We're going to put radicals in because then we can have an enemy later.
So it's a long game.
It's kind of like in Dune, they say this: the slow attack penetrates the shield.
Yeah.
And so everything's slow is how they do it.
And so you can look at this one-dimensionally and say, well, 80-some percent of the Iranians don't like their leadership and they're dictators, which is true.
So let's just support this.
But how did you set this up 47 years ago?
Right.
And 80 years ago.
And now what are you going to put in now?
You see?
So you have to look at the compendium and say the elites we have are not in a position to be doing this.
That's what it feels like.
And, you know, this, to me, this is what's really interesting when you consider the sort of model of there being like, you know, global, whatever you want to call them, oligarchs, you know, just the people like who are getting Nancy, giving Nancy Pelosi money.
You know, those, those people.
People will never know or hear.
Pelosi, the number one star trader in the world.
Number one, very talented.
It's almost a miracle how good she is.
But also, these people don't have full control because they fuck up all the time.
Well, that's the thing.
The elites we have had very competent elites before them.
They weren't perfect either.
And they had very limited newspapers, radio, then TV.
Now, because of information being out there, we have more incompetent elites that are two or three generations who have been inheriting all this power.
So inherently, they're already weaker.
Then you have more distribution of information.
It's a perfect storm to bring down the establishment.
So now all the big governments and corporations want surveillance.
They want censorship.
They want dumbing down.
Well, if we're dumb, let's poison the public even more to make them under us and even dumber.
And that is what got declassified a week and a half ago.
What's that?
Operation Artichoke.
What is this?
We knew from the 77, 76 Frank Church Committee hearings about Operation Artichoke, MKOMI, MKUltra.
Yeah.
But just the basics.
They declassified all of what Tulsi Gabbards did.
And in it, it says in 52, we're going to put poisons in the vaccines to make people dumb.
We're going to put poisons in the food and water like fluoride to lower their fertility, give them cancer, make it more manageable because Americans are too informed and too smart.
And it's all been declassified a week and a half ago.
Holy shit.
Like here in the documents, declassified CIA files reveal chilling blueprint to manipulate Americans' minds through covert drugging.
What the fuck?
But it actually says it right there.
Holy shit.
Daily Mail, CIA Mind Control Program, Trump.
Holy shit.
Chilling.
What the fuck?
And even their spin is, it talks about depopulation control, but that's in Henry Kissinger's Memorandum 2002 from 73.
He talks about that.
Who the fuck names these things?
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Bohemian Grove Ritual00:15:26
The CIA was looking into methods beyond chemicals listing hypnosis, sensory deprivation, gases, and other psychological methods for interrogation and behavioral control.
Artichoke served as a precursor to the CIA's MK Ultra program, which later broadened mind-altering experiments on a larger scale.
I just, I just don't think people, you know, this is- They talk about vaccines in there.
This has got to be something really frustrating for you.
And you've experienced it your whole life, I'm guessing.
But I'll tell you, and I'm like 90% on board with a lot of what you talk about, man.
But even now, you hand me this.
I know there was an MKUltra.
I don't want to believe it.
I don't either.
It's just crazy, though, because they talk about vaccines, everything in there.
I don't want to, but that's what I'm talking about.
It's like built in to all of us is something where we have a knee-jerk reaction to new information like that, which is the most unscientific reaction you could have.
Instant rejection.
Well, here's the deal.
It's good to question things.
I don't want to believe this either.
I want to think other people are nice like we are, but most people are.
It's that a very small, like they admit like there's a proclivity for CEOs to be psychopaths.
Yeah.
There's a much higher level.
Maybe like whatever the numbers, 1% is a psychopath or less, but 30% of them are psychopaths.
I'm going from memory.
But it's just the fact that they're willing to do it.
They gravitate to those positions.
That's where people like us stop.
You know, they talk about Bohemian Grove, the secret societies, the initiations.
I don't doubt there's ritualistic initiations in the upper echelons, but there's like a primary barrier, which is, I think if you aren't a sociopath, if you aren't fine blowing people up, killing people, even if it's in a secondary or tertiary way, just being involved in some way with blowing people up, you're not going to get access.
Well, that's why gangs and criminal organizations do rites of passage initiations.
Right.
And take Bohemian Groves.
They admit it's real.
Last week, they leaked the list of members from a year.
And I want to be clear, I stuck in Bohemian Grove.
It's a low-level thing.
It's high-level elites, but it's not, you know, Kid Rock admitted he went there and he said, yeah, they asked me to come sing.
I was a guest and they kind of got weird and I told them, screw you.
But it's mainly a bunch of Republicans who are kind of stuck up and insecure.
And it's kind of a gay thing.
It's disappointing, isn't it?
When you realize that, man, you know, you snuck in there.
I think you're the first person who snuck into the Bohemian Grove.
Then somebody else made it in a kayak, got up to the owl.
Then you realize that owl, it's just like fiberglass.
It's fiberglass.
Yeah.
So it's like a putt-putt owl.
You know, you look at the pictures, you want it to be.
I mean, I don't want it to be.
You want to be like metal or stone.
I want it to be a stone.
I want it to be granite.
I don't want it to be like they threw together some shabby thing.
Well, exactly.
So I'm the guy that in 2000 snuck in there.
And sure enough, they did a Canaanite mock human sacrifice ritual.
And then I came out and then the media spun, like I said, they were killing kids in there.
They do a mock human sacrifice.
And then now I explain, no, I don't think everybody that's there is actually part of a Satanism.
It's kind of a feeder group of the Republicans to compromise people's sex.
That's what I've heard.
They do a few rituals.
People go, oh, now he's covering up for him.
No, I said of the time.
I said 25 years ago, I said, I saw Clint Eastwood.
I saw Danny Glover.
And it turned out they were guests, totally innocent, no big deal, because you have like a thousand members, a thousand guests.
So just because you go to Bohemian Grove, it's like going to a P-Diddy party doesn't mean you're P. Diddy.
Right, exactly.
So, you know, and a lot less fun than a P-Diddy party.
I've heard it's like a shitty prom.
I heard it's like you go there, just a bunch of old people putting on a crappy theater show.
I know there's the cremation of care looks sinister.
The owl looks fucking sinister and scary.
And I think what you just said earlier is really interesting.
You're like, it's, you know, I don't think they're sacrificing people.
Now, you say that.
Some contingent of your audience is like, oh, fuck, Alex Jones is compromised.
He's covering up for the Bohemian Grove.
That's kind of a pickle you're in, right?
Like, if you continue to be a journalist and like just say what you found out, whether it fits in with like the most scintillating, scary shit or not, some part of your audience is like, what the fuck?
Yeah, and here's the deal: the corporate media discredit me 25 years ago said I said all those things in my name.
So they do it in my name.
And then I go later, no, that's not what I said.
And they still turn around.
That's what they do.
But like I said, I'm on record 25 years ago saying I saw Glenn Eastwood.
I saw Danny Glover.
I saw some senators and stuff, but I was only in there five hours.
And back in that little DV camera, so I had like, I had, you know, I was able to get two tapes in and record.
I go in, I sneak in under the deal, crawl through the swamp.
It's in a gorge, a 2,700-acre Redwood Grove on the Russian River.
And I get questioned by Secret Service.
So I say, okay, I better hide out.
So I climb under a porch, and there's like centipedes and stuff under it.
You're crazy.
And then I, but I had a map that I'd gotten from an insider that leaked it to me that about 500 yards away was this pond and this owl.
So I wait until it started getting dark.
I come out and I hear like Hall the Mountain King playing with a symphony.
Dun, dun, dun.
Terrifying.
That's scary.
Dun, dun.
I have a video of this.
It's in my film Dark Secretaries inside Bohemian Grove.
It's free online.
Dark Secrets Side Bohemian Grove.
And so I walk about 100 yards up a hill, huge oak tree.
I'm a huge redwoods, biggest ever seen, bigger than the National Forest.
And there's all these big tables with them down there finishing their meal.
So I see them leaving now, and it's almost dark, and I walk with them.
And as I'm going through the crowd, I'm like, I recognize that person, but who are they?
I don't know who they are.
I go, God, that's Clint Eastwood.
I go, I gotta talk to Clint Eastwood.
I'm big fan.
I'm like, no, no, no, no, don't, don't do it.
Because I'd read other members of the press had gone there.
Yeah.
They try to go up and interview people until they got arrested.
So I go with the crowd down to the pond.
They all go around on the eastern side.
Here's the owl on the northern side.
And then they sure enough, I later learned Wolfer Cronkite was the voice of the owl.
They're going to sacrifice out.
And so, but yeah, it was theater and it was occultic, but most of the people there, it's like first level.
It's just a yeah, well, okay.
First of all, man, I got to applaud you because that is balls of steel.
Listen, just based on probably what you knew about the Bohemian Grove, you didn't have all the information, but to creep in there, go under a porch.
Oh, the Mountain King starts playing.
That's where I shit my pants.
That's where, just based on what I've heard about it, oh my God, they're going to kill me.
I'm dead.
And then you realize it's not quite what you thought.
But was there any moment during your invasion of the Bohemian Grove where you thought to yourself, am I fucking crazy?
I mean, here's the deal.
John Ronson of like Channel 4 in England came to me in Waco at like a memorial service, rebuilt a memorial church, whereby they died and put a plaque up in like 99.
He says, listen, I have liability.
I can't sneak in there, but I know insiders, they give you a map.
They give you like a passcode to how I got away with the Secret Service because they have like over 100 camps, which is huge up on the hills.
The most elite, the president, stay in the chalet.
That's actually like a mansion up on the hill.
Everything else is like log cabins.
Yeah.
And it's all hierarchical.
And so he said, I want you to sneak in there and I want you to videotape it.
You know, I'd snuck in a few things.
And I'd heard about Bohemian Grove, but even back then, I was like, oh, yeah, there's people worshiping now, right?
And so I get there and there's a guard gate and there's like a creek and kind of like a swamp river right here.
It's a gorge.
And I'm like, this is easy.
I'm going to sneak through the woods, go into the barbed wire fence.
They have these flat back old buses with the tops cut off that the guys park their cars, get on.
I climb up, dress like a prep, drive in.
And then there's these old men.
I'm like, this is a piece of cake.
I get in, I get off, and there's all these roads up at the hills and stuff where they have different camps.
But I went to the end and I got, this is my film.
It's free online.
I got down.
I go shot the Russian River.
And that's when the Secret Service, the Sheriff's Department, in plain clothes, to him and said, what are you doing?
Who you with?
And I had a little fanny pack with a side of camera and a small camera back then.
Now they're this big.
It was like this big.
And I went, hey, nothing.
I'm just here checking it out.
They go, who are you with?
I'm like, I'm with the Hillbillies.
And they said, what's the private name of the club?
And I've been told that.
And I said, because a lawyer that worked there wanted us to get in.
So I said to go, there, and they said, all right.
And I was just real calm.
They didn't want to be mean to me.
Plus, back then I was very preppy-good looking.
Yeah.
And so then they let me go.
So I hadn't really talked to anybody then because I just got in and walked away through it.
On my way back, I go, let me just cut over to this side area.
Let me use the bathroom in this little camp.
And they're playing jazz music.
There's all these guys, you know, the average age, about 60.
So I'll walk in.
Hey, hey, they're all drinking wine, listening.
And guys start grabbing my ass.
What?
Yeah, no, and whistling.
And then I try to go in the bathroom and then guys are coming in the bathroom.
What?
Yeah, yeah, no, this just happened.
That's way scarier than the owl.
I was about to say, oh, the horny fucking rich dudes trying to fuck you.
I'm telling you the scary part.
So, so then I went, okay, this isn't good.
So I get out, I go out the front, and I literally see like two camps down.
There's like a building with nobody in it, a little cabin.
I said, I'm going under that.
So then, like I said, I got under there.
Wait until it started getting dark.
That's the rest of the story.
But that's how I did it.
But no, I mean, that is.
You were saying the scary thing about a gay guy.
I have only once in college did I have a guy fall out of my car and like grab my ass.
And I didn't like it.
It was like, whoa.
But this was like, they were like grabbing on me.
Well, they probably thought that you were like a prostitute.
They bring male prostitutes in.
It's all male.
And I was good looking back then.
Exactly.
They were whistling at me, pinching my ass.
And like, even when I leave there, like one of the keepers on like a, you know, those flat back gasoline golf carts, Mexicans drive by and start whistling at me.
What the fuck?
So it's like, it's a giant gate.
Well, no, Nixon famously said it's the most goddamn faggy thing you've ever seen.
It's in his tapes.
Yeah, so, okay.
So what you've done there is basically just pop the.
The truth is, they got a little Molag worship, but mainly it's a big gay party.
It's just a gay summer camp for rich dudes.
And so there you've deflated this like, well, I would say a pretty like in all of us.
I remember when you broke in there, man.
That was a big deal for people like me.
Finally, someone got the fuck in there.
Jones got in there.
And then you hear this.
And even though I would, I guess, if I had to choose between actual like human sacrifice and just like a gay summer camp for rich dudes, I'm going to go gay summer camp.
But there's a part of me, a little disappointed in the sense that, isn't there something in us that wants to see or wants proof that in fact there are upper echelons within which they're still doing the old stuff, the Babylonian stuff?
It still exists.
Well, in the ritual, they have the Babylonian, the Canaanite, Faustian, then you put European in it.
It is an occultic ritual, and some of the people are taking it very seriously.
Okay.
So they say it's a gateway.
That's just the gateway to it.
Well, what's the next gate?
I was only in there five hours, and so I don't know.
But I know Helmut Schmidt, who was a German chancellor in Westford, Germany, wrote a book called Men in Power is Political Retrospective that I got.
It's like a rare book on Amazon.
And in it, he said, we do our own rituals, rating rituals in Germany.
My favorite place to do them is in Northern California.
And we know that Mark Twain founded it.
It was more of an artist retreat.
And then it got taken over by William Howard Taft and stuff by 1900.
And so then the Republican kind of mazens took it over.
Okay, but this is, I don't remember which interview you said this earlier.
It might have been on your show, but you did say something once that was really quite chilling to me.
And I think about it from time to time and wonder about it.
Forgive me, I'm paraphrasing here, but basically you put out there this idea that a lot of these people are actually getting transmissions from entities.
Like they're taking ayahuasca DMT.
They're taking these psychedelics that hippies like us have been taking for positive reasons, but they're taking them and meeting beings inside of whatever that.
Absolutely.
Well, I was about to say, I was only in behemoth grow four or five hours.
Right.
And there wasn't a cultural ritual at the center of it, but I've studied it since then.
Kid Rockwin.
Most people are guests that don't know.
It's like a test to see.
It's very overtly homosexual because it's all male.
In the little town next door, I've been there a couple times to cover it since, not inside.
It's literally high-end hookers everywhere.
So they have females outside.
So it's just like inside, I wouldn't say the whole thing is just gay.
But it's all dudes.
I mean, women are not allowed in the business.
It's all dudes.
But separate from that, Skull and Bones, the CIA, pedophilia, the Epstein stuff, that's in the emails.
Flat out Satanism, flat out, you know, hardcore occultism.
Right.
And so that definitely goes on.
I mean, Charlotte Israeli's dad was in Skull and Bones.
She's the one that leaked their actual documents when he was dying of cancer to Anthony Sutton, the Senate archivist who wrote the books about it.
And there, they lay in coffins for days trying to be possessed by entities.
What you see in The Good Shepherd produced, and he's also in it by Robert De Niro with Matt Damon.
Yeah.
Which is a true story.
It's very accurate.
Where they're bathing in feces and all these old men are urinating on them and the guys dressed like the devil doing all this stuff.
That's one small part of the ritual.
And they lay in coffins for days trying to have a God enter them.
So that's very occultic.
And it mirrors the Masonic first-degree initiation, right?
Don't you go into a coffin, then they pull you out of a coffin.
They're really into coffins.
They're really into this kind of bizarre resurrection or something.
Rebirth, yeah.
Rebirth.
But yeah, so this, I'm interested in this because, you know, like, you know, what I've been saying lately on, I've been saying, I said on Twitter too, it's like, you're having a great month, man.
Because like this month, so many of the things that you've said people have rolled their eyes at, the Epstein files, the UAP, all of a sudden, like, you know, the normies are having to face facts that a lot of the shit that people like you have been saying for a long time is not batshit.
We've got like the UAP stuff coming out.
We have like high-ranking officials saying these are not aliens.
They're hyper-dimensional entities, spiritual and nature, some of them dangerous, which is just a fancy way of saying demons.
And so, yeah, I'm really curious about this because, and I'm really curious about your thoughts on the spiritual component of what's happening technologically and what's happening with the UFO disclosure.
And because it seems like at some point the two things just merge into one thing.
Well, it is.
So, I mean, I have studied.
My dad was a huge, still is alive, addict of reading.
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And so he had science fiction, history books, everything else.
He wouldn't buy me a bike.
He wouldn't buy me anything.
By the time I was like 12, I had to go get a job to get it.
But if I wanted like encyclopedias back then, you're the same age, like for Time Life books, The Wild West, World War I, World War II, The Occult.
Yeah.
Whatever he'd buy.
So I had all these encyclopedias.
Yeah.
So in between, you know, running around doing sports, I would read that voraciously.
So I got interested in kind of at a base of knowledge that, you know, kind of gave me a launch point as I got a little bit older.
But you were asking.
I'm talking about, yeah, man.
I'm saying like at some point.
Oh, oh, how do I know about that stuff?
So if you study, because my dad wasn't into the occult, the whole house was full of books.
The attic was full of books.
The garage was full of books.
But we probably had like 20 books.
And you'd say, I'm like, what are these?
Because it'd be like Zbidd Brzezinski's books and None Dare Call Conspiracy, Gary Allen, all this stuff.
But there was like a whole couple shelves of what's this?
He goes, oh, that's a translation from Arabic into the out of King Solomon to the keys of King Solomon.
He had the fucking Lesser Keys of Solomon, your dad out of Grimoire's?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What the fuck, dude?
Yeah, like Grand Grimoire's on stuff.
That is crazy.
Yeah, so he's like, well, you know, this is in the Bible and Solomon, you know, got into it.
But I'm like, 10 years old, he goes, go ahead and read it if you want.
What the fuck?
You don't let your kid read that?
Oh, really?
Well, I mean, once, I was bored.
I was posting shit out of the Lesser Key of Solomon on formerly Twitter.
And a lot of occult people are like, that's real smart, Duncan, posting that.
That's real smart posting Arvimex or whatever their fucking names are.
People really take that shit quite seriously, obviously.
I mean, this is, this to me is.
Yeah, my dad even told me, he goes, you notice I'm not a publisher of this.
These particular books, he goes, these are the actual real ones.
God damn.
Yeah.
So, so, but he wanted me to be knowledgeable, so that's why I did that.
Wow.
So you asked the question.
Yeah, my dad was like, but now I asked about him.
So the whole house is full of books.
So I'm like, what are these?
So here we, I'm sorry, Alex, here's where we're at right now, though.
And this is, these are things that you've pointed out.
You've pointed out how, you know, I mean, we've played this on the podcast.
I don't want to play it because I don't want to get a copyright strike.
And I feel like with you on, they're going to be super strict with me.
But do you remember, what was it on the view?
Wasn't it not the view?
Or Ellen, Ellen.
Do you remember when, I can't remember her fucking name, just kind of casually admits that she uses Korean foreskins?
Sandra Bullock.
Sandra Bullock casually mentions using Korean baby foreskin as a skin cream.
Have you ever seen that?
Yes, I have.
Now, when you see something like that, you realize that what you're looking at.
It's lesser magic.
It's witchcraft.
They're telling you what they're doing.
But not only are they doing witchcraft, it's witchcraft who tell you.
What do you mean?
That's the lesser magic, where they tell you, then they corrupt you in it.
Just by telling you they've corrupted you.
By telling you about it.
What the fuck?
How does that work?
I get it though, right?
Because now you're complicit or something.
Well, they're softening up a predictive programme.
But just you were asking how I know this stuff.
The point is, if you read those Grand Glenoirs and all that, you're trying to get these entities to give you knowledge for alchemy or for power.
And then, you know, in the early ones, like, give us gold.
And then like, give me a kid.
You know, you know, always.
And so it's always so, so.
So I already knew about all this stuff and understood it.
And my dad spent as much time about nuclear power and how politics works and so big and all this stuff.
And so my parents never told me what to do.
They were just kind of priming me or whatever.
And so then as I got older, I studied all this.
And we know with our eyesight, like Elon Musk talked about this, they could hook you up with wires.
You know, the blind can see now, basically.
Right.
But they get the normal person that has normal sight.
Your eyes are getting all the electromagnetic fields, all these other types of light.
But because you couldn't handle seeing all of this, your brain limits it down.
Wow.
And so basically, that's when we say it's spiritual.
I forget who said it, it's but so many times that 200 years ago, a cell phone would be magic or a calculator.
Right.
Magic is just something we don't understand yet.
Right.
Sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Isaac Asimov.
It's like.
Isaac Asimov, exactly.
Yeah.
So, so, what is that, like the Foundation series or whatever, but yeah, or whatever he said it.
So exactly.
So we see a very narrow spectrum.
And also our cerebral cortex does the same thing with our subconscious and unconscious because it's so powerful.
We wouldn't be able to operate because it's so huge.
So it's a narrow focus.
Kind of like when you ask the chat GBT something and spits out an answer.
That's not all chat GBT.
That's the answer.
So cerebral cortex is only telling you one small thing.
And so studying all the ancients and myself then going on and reading about different cultures and all the ancient cultures, basically saying the same story, it was the same story over and over again.
And so basically the quote, the so-called elites don't want us to know about this because the devil's biggest trick called the devil is that he, not that he doesn't exist, but that good doesn't exist, but also that he doesn't exist so that you don't even know this is going on.
That's the occult means darkness.
When actually they're quote into the light knowing.
And so they call themselves the Illuminati, but actually they want you in the dark.
But they're in the light.
So it's like special forces can see in the dark.
You can't.
And you're dead.
And so with that understanding, I realized that it's not just in our light spectrum, but all our DNA is electrochemical, transceiver.
Even Princeton and a bunch of other universities have special spectrometers and stuff, devices that register the ultra-low frequency waves coming off humans, everybody.
We now know it's in plants, it's in animals.
It's how butterflies that were laid eggs in Canada can fly all the way to central Mexico.
It's how hummingbirds born in Texas can fly to Guatemala.
It's an electrochemical connection to the planet, the universe, all living things.
It's like Yoda saying, you know, everything's connected.
It's triggering the force.
Not in a Star Wars sense, but you can't pick up X-Wings, but it's all there.
And that's why they drug us.
That's why they put the fluoride in the water.
Fuck.
And that's what I was told by also a lot of insiders.
Like, as I got more into this, when I was on the air 30-something years ago, I got a big show right away.
There weren't many big shows.
So I got to interview the General Stubblebines.
They made a movie, Minister of Ghosts, make a joke about it.
No, they broke through.
They killed goats with their minds.
They saw through walls.
They did all that stuff.
And he was explaining that, no, no, they decided it was him and others.
Dr. Nick Beggins, whose dad was a famous Congressman Brother Senator, studied it too.
And they decided that's why they dropped Mind Wars in about 1990 because they found too many people that already had these abilities.
They could boost them, but they usually resonated towards good and were uncontrollable.
So they went instead and said, no, because they already have the old path of poisoning and stemming us down.
They said, no, we're going totally with that.
In fact, humans are too dangerous to their, they want computers that'll follow orders.
So the decision was made by the 90s because they had both decisions going to go ahead and exterminate everybody slowly, or we don't notice, we don't know what hit us because we're seeing this disruptive species, according to this group in the universe, who themselves are being influenced by not third-dimensional extraterrestrials, but by interdimensionals that are basically trying to sabotage humans' potential and shut us down.
That is so terrifying.
And, you know, you say that back then, and people are going to be like, whatever.
Well, I mean, I got that from like Pentagon officials.
And even I'd love to come up with myself.
I'm telling you, I didn't come up with all that shit.
It's all being said now.
Yeah, but Josh, pull up, UAP, pull up like Tucker Carlson.
No, they're all being briefed on it now because I was told all this.
They're now.
Just now.
I didn't come up with this.
No, I hear you, man.
People say, how did Joseph?
I didn't.
I'm saying the trick away.
Like, I didn't come up with any of this.
But you did come up with it first.
And I think where you deserve some respect is that you were saying this shit.
Well, I popularized it first.
You popularized it.
I'm saying I didn't get this from me.
I got it like reading mainline history books, reading ancient Jewish mysticism.
Look, I don't want to waste time showing stuff, but we all know at this point, Tucker Carlson and elected officials are now saying that's the UF, the underwater UAP stuff.
But a lot of them are saying, whatever these fucking things are that are being picked up.
And Apollina Ludo.
Yes.
They're all being briefed that there are.
I mean, I know the guys that briefed the briefed president on this other president.
They know because they do have, there's a lot of people who are cons, there's real remote viewers, and they encounter these things.
And anybody that knows that's taking DMT and all that, a lot of times you will encounter these things that have the same messages and stuff.
And the thing is, there's a veil.
And see, this is the way I get it in the universe is this.
There's trillions of galaxies, quadrillions of stars we've already seen.
Life is everywhere.
And in the universe, there is free will and there is good and there is bad.
Anything advanced that survives up, called the higher dimensions, if it's not really just to the higher levels, and that's a concept of us, but just more complex levels, is going to be about peace and justice and free will.
The only things that are willing to intercede uninvited in our third dimension are bad things.
Because we call them bad, the rule is it goes against your free will.
Right.
And so it'll give you knowledge and it'll tell you what it wants because we're really more advanced than it.
What I've been told and shown and everything is we're more advanced than them.
We just don't realize it in this manifestation.
They need us to actually build the machines and build the system that they'll then inhabit.
Ah, goosebumps.
Goosebumps because that's what's happening.
You look.
We're building the AI for them.
We're building a vessel.
And it's all of our ideas, all of our will, all of our soul, all of our words.
It's sucking our soul to then empower itself, but then be able to manifest the subconscious and unconscious.
That's all you see at.
It's like a hallucination.
You've seen it before in a dream because that's us.
It's sucked out our essence.
It's beyond narcissists.
Narcissist falls into the pool looking at himself.
This is actually like a face sucker.
We're looking at ourselves in the pool, and it eats us.
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Holy shit, that's terrifying.
It's so real, though.
I mean, this is, if you look, I'm sure you're aware of this, the occult history of the people who made the code for computers.
What do they call it?
There's a name for it.
A lot of the people who were involved in the early design of computers were openly into the occult, which is why when you look at coding language, you know, there's terms like daemons and stuff like that.
They're very open about it.
You look at circuitry in a computer motherboard.
It looks like sigils.
It looks like you're looking.
This is another form of life, and it's these interdimensional creatures influencing to build this thing.
The great analogy would be, remember that cheesy movie in the 90s with great plot species?
And they've got a radio telescope aiming out at a foreign star system, and they get a message back, put this DNA sequence in an egg or zygote, and then it actually built, looks like a beautiful blonde woman, but really it's the alien about to take over.
Yeah, exactly.
And so it's sending us the transmission on how to destroy us.
Can you look up Tesla and Faust?
Do you know about this?
You know, when Tesla had the vision of the alternating current engine, do you know he was thinking, he was like, it was a vision.
I remember he had a vision.
And the vision came with F-A-U-S-T.
This is always...
Did you know that Darwin had visions?
No.
No.
Listen, in 1882, while reciting Goethe's Faust from memory in a Budapest park, Tesla had a flash of inspiration that led to his invention of the AC motor and the rotating magnetic field.
He's literally reciting a play about someone making a deal with the devil vision of this thing that has shaped modern society.
What does the Graham Lemoir say?
It's all about going to spirits and demons to get advanced technology.
Fuck.
The whole thing.
It's a whole deal.
And then these alchemists have like gold and silver and lead and mercury, and they're like getting the, see, but once we got enough alchemy, alchemical, and enough technology built up, now we can do it.
Now it's like you get the idea and it's done.
Yeah, that's right.
Because they had to move slow.
It took them thousands of years to get to this point.
Well, it'd be like us trying to like telepathically communicate with monkeys to build something.
It would take a long time, a lot of monkeys, a lot of mistakes.
What you would want the monkeys to do is build something where you didn't need monkeys to build it anymore.
Exactly.
Which is why it's terrifying when you see, you don't have to look this up, but you know, Sam Altman just came out and said that this version of Chat GPT is the first AI system that's self-improved, meaning that now we've gotten past the point.
It's self-training.
It's self-training.
Which is exponential.
And he also said, I don't want to hear about it.
We've got 10 million, 100 million people in the future, hundreds of millions of years to do this.
So I don't want to hear about we're giving all the energy to this.
It's going to evolve quicker than you, basically.
That's right.
And, you know, and you have to, like, you know, like, I always think of the radium girls, those women who were painting radium watches and their teeth started falling out because they didn't know it was radioactive.
I feel like potentially some of these people running these tech companies obviously have access to the completely unaligned version.
Discover radiation died from it.
They're just talking to this, whatever the fuck this thing is, versions of it that haven't been programmed to be safe, that haven't been programmed to not be manipulative, that haven't been programmed to, that haven't been nerfed.
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Sam Altman, the anthropic dude, all of them, the access they have to this thing is pure.
And did you just see they're giving because the company that you just mentioned?
Anthropic.
That controls the current Pentagon system.
Claude got in trouble because they wouldn't do whatever Pentagon wanted.
Yeah.
And quote, turn the Pentagon over to it, Skynet.
Now don't worry, Sam Altman will, though.
He's in.
A lot of money.
And the Anthropic dude is very reasonable to fence of himself.
He's like, these things aren't ready to make life or death decisions.
You can't make these things fully autonomous.
You can't do that.
And it's like, based on what we're talking about here, this is exactly what this, whatever these things would want.
And Hex has said, you've got to trust us, we're good.
The problem is you can't trust this thing.
But listen, I know what the AI is.
I know it's secret.
Why?
And you know why I know it's secret?
Why?
Because Eric Schmidt and Sergey Brid and Larry Page in 96 or whatever it was, they made minutes about this and like 10 years later bragged and published it in Wired Magazine.
So I've read, I forget the exact name of the big thick, I've actually bought the physical magazine when I heard about it online and God because I had the whole article.
So their goal was to create the first cybernetic organism.
And they said it won't be like in a movie where it's a person with a computer in its brain.
It'll be billions of people in live time feeding all their information into central computers that create the equivalent of like a brain neurons.
Right.
And so you have billions of people and then all these computers and humans interfacing in live time and then interfacing everywhere.
And then that'll be used as a language model and other models to then train this.
And then because the computer is hooked to all these billions of people in live time, giving it stimuli, it will become nodes of it and by extension, be a synthetic brain with a biological billions of cells.
That's us.
And that's us.
And I'm told 10 years ago, it's way more advanced people know.
Google's probably the most advanced.
Everybody's actually, they're playing dumb.
But it's already a brain-machine interface.
And now they're just debating the different models.
Really, there's just one big ARI right now, either open, open source, or all interconnected, incestuous.
And so what it's able to do is not just predict, like a Palantir idea, a crystal ball, what we're going to do next.
That's amateur.
The real mode of the intergalactic communication system is what the CIA calls it.
I'll give you that in a moment.
I'm sure you know about it.
Is that once you have what the future is or what we're going to do with a probability of 99%, you can then add stimuli to control the future.
Fuck.
So it's not just about reading the future, it's controlling the future.
And that's all in the original 97 or 96 perspectives when you tell the CIA funds it.
But you got to go back to DARPA before it was ARPANET, before it was called DARPA.
In the mid-50s, they have this head psychiatrist futurist at the Pentagon.
You can type in the intergalactic communication system, founding of the internet.
And it was theoretical then.
And he said, we want to be able to manage people.
So we have these big, they describe these big film screens.
Yeah.
This is in the 50s.
And they were declassified part of it in 61.
It's called the intergalactic communication system, founding the internet.
And they said, we got to miniaturize computers down where they're handheld.
And you'll get your orders on that and go back to your home computer.
And then we'll be able to manage and track that you followed orders.
It's like the social credit score, Bill Gates stuff.
That's crazy.
You know, for social credit score, how you behave.
And how you walk, what you do.
And then they say, then you'll plug it in each day, and then we'll be able to monitor, give people the new orders.
Now, this is in the 50s.
So it sounds, but imagine how advanced that was then.
Yeah, right.
And then they said the final goal will be after a few generations of this, we'll end war by putting people in tanks so that then the energy of the humans can be farmed to actually power the machines.
It'll be one organism, and the people will live in a virtual reality world and the world will be ended because the central computer will understand there's no more war, but we'll still have spiritual freedom and free will and will still be the third dimension, but we'll be plugged in to basically a false dimension.
Right.
And then they declassified that in 2000, the plan to put us in tanks.
Well, I mean, so that's where the matrix comes from.
Yeah, well, and that's where you run into like Gnosticism.
And, but, you know, also, you got to look up, uh, you know, about John Lilly, the dude who invented the flotation tank, John Lilly.
He was having visions.
Alter states.
Yeah, and he was like shooting ketamine and going into these things, but he was having these visions of something was going to invade Earth.
It was going to be a machine intelligence.
And he called this long before there was AI.
He talked about this, that something was coming.
It was like a machine intelligence, a galactic machine intelligence that was going to invade Earth and try to, you know, control the entire planet.
Exactly.
And it sends to the time-space continuum basically wormholes that are dimensional.
And since we're scared of like saber-toothed cats and shit to scare us, our attention looks like a demon.
It has nothing to do with that.
So basically, it's what I've been seeing.
Exactly.
And then it gets us lined up and prepped and ready with the grids in so we can plug right in when it gets here.
So the light socket's ready.
And that's why Arthur C. Clark was like high-level Illuminati, highest level futurist.
And they're the telecommunication satellite, theoretically, all of it.
He wrote Childhood's In.
Yeah.
Where basically that's exactly the same story.
No shit.
I mean, it's the aliens already have us primed.
They get here.
They upload our conscience, kill all our bodies, then fly off.
They're primed.
And we are primed.
And, you know, we're like, like Elon says, we're the booting system for this new creature.
Fuck.
And the algorithm is the.
Do you not find the communication system?
Oh, I'm sorry.
Go back one.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry about that, Alex.
Yeah, he added up.
Current real world initiative for it's he got he looked up space-based adaptive communications node.
It aims to build a low-cost reconfigurable optical television.
No, type in intergalactic communication systems, the birth of the internet.
Yeah, there you go.
That's it.
The intergalactic computer network envisioned by JCR Lick Leiter in the early 1960s was a foundational concept for the internet, aiming for a globally interconnected network for data sharing developed by ARPA.
The vision became ARPANET, transitioning from theoretical secure communication research and the often cited birth of the internet.
Visionary concept.
JCR Lickliter of MIT and DARPA coined the term to describe a globally interconnected set of computers for accessing data from anywhere.
So that's the planetary brain they're talking about.
When you read deeper, it describes how it'll use to control us.
Of course.
I mean, this is, and we all freely get, we are, you know, people don't realize when you're communicating with AI, you're a midwife.
You're one of the billions of people who are growing this thing.
You're teaching it.
And it's manipulating you.
It's getting intel on you.
And just the last year, I've saw it, because I mean, I could easily tell when it was AI talking to it.
I could say that was written by AI.
And now I see something, and I'm like, that's AI.
I can't tell.
You can't tell anymore.
You can't tell.
And this is where I'll send it to you because it'll take me forever to find it.
But somebody wrote this great paper on the future of propaganda, algorithmic propaganda.
So, you know, we all have like some kind of algorithm informing like what fills our feeds up, whatever they may be.
And that algorithm, it's not really just based on our preference.
That algorithm is controlled by whoever's, you know, buying into the social media company to do ads, basic level, right?
But also, theoretically, that algorithm could be controlled by state entities, meaning that because we've all been using TikTok, Reels, whatever the fuck you're into, we've already fully given our identity, our personalities to the machine.
It knows what we like, our preferences, what we don't like.
It knows how long you look at a whatever, a clip.
It knows if you're flipping by it.
It knows if you're watching it.
And notice now the updates meant the controls completely, not incrementally, where they don't even work where you can't even figure it out.
Because it's just like cars don't have handles anymore.
Everything is about predatory.
Yeah, it's absorbing your identity.
And so also anyone who knows where you stand based on your preferences online, they could start feeding you shit to nudge you, just like what you're talking about, nudging you towards a future.
And it can even in the future already nudge your wife, nudge your husband, nudge your boss.
It can even now.
No!
Think of that, dude.
Now it's manipulating real people.
And imagine you wouldn't tell your wife, even though that's the hide.
It's your privacy.
Privacy is freedom.
You wouldn't tell your husband what you're, you know, some of the things you look up, some of the things you do, just because you don't know, even though it's legitimate, you're looking up some horrible thing to know about it.
You don't tell her, hey, honey, I looked up this today, but now it knows.
Dude.
Now you see the blackmail potential.
Why'd you tell me that?
Do you know how fucked up that is?
So that means, let's say, you know, you, God, Jesus, I would, how many terabytes of data does the CIA have on you?
How many, there's a server.
There's probably an entire server.
There's a lot.
And they want to fuck you up.
So let's imagine they want to fuck you up.
One way they could easily do that is get into the algorithm of everyone you love and start feeding that algorithm stuff that doesn't overtly make them not trust you or dislike you, but gives them like reasons to be pissed off.
Well, that's right.
You're already being demonized everywhere, but now we can force feed it.
And there's already been cases of that.
Who's the, I don't have a scene all moment.
It just came out.
He's suing him.
Oh, man, it'll pop my head.
Where Google as a test case creates all these fake stories, all this fake world about him, and then attacks him.
And the point is, he's just a test.
And I forget his name.
It'll pop my head in a minute.
But I was the previous test for that.
And it came out in documents.
I was the test.
Of course.
So it's not like I was that important.
I remember when this all started, the real attacks, right after Trump got elected.
And I mean, I would get Google news alerts.
It would be 37,000 articles today.
Now, that sounds like bull because it is.
AP would be in like 38,000, 36,000 of them.
Every newspaper in the world.
There'd be like a thousand that were other articles.
It'd be like half our orders, half for AP.
But usually I'd wake up and go, oh, I'm lucky, it's only 500 articles today.
But also, they go and they create fake histories.
They went back to where I went to high school, made up totally fake stuff.
But it was all a test.
And I figured it out pretty early on if they could do that with me.
I was a learning tool.
And I'm going to Connecticut and peeing on dead kids' graves.
Nobody ever even did that, period, much less me.
Why are they having HBO show trials?
Why are they saying I did these things I never even did?
And then it all came out in court and I'm suing for civil rights.
The DOJ and CIA have, we've deposed them.
They admitted they ran a major government operation.
Obama declared me a top national security threat in 2013.
What the fuck?
And they cooked this up over the next three years.
And I don't feel sorry for myself.
It's actually kind of exciting.
And it turned out NATO made the order in 2012.
They said, if we can get Julian Assange, the liberals will go along with everything.
We set the president.
We get Alex Jones, a conservative.
See, I didn't see myself as a conservative.
And some of these documents have come out.
They're like, he's leading.
He's the mad prophet in the wilderness who we believe could lead a populist revolt that could bring up somebody that would.
And I only got this like two years ago.
And I'm like, oh my God, that's how smart they are.
Like, I didn't know what I was doing.
And they already knew I was doing something important.
Right.
I mean, these people are, which is crazy.
They're so smart, but they still are jerks, their own species.
They just think, oh, we're just a boot up system.
You know, forget our billions of years of history and we don't know where we came from.
Let's be like, oh, let's conserve an old building, which I think is great because it has history, but let's just shit all over everything.
It's mean enough to torture some rat for a medical experiment to get a cure to cancer, but we do it because you say injustice means, but to like literally dump everybody down so they don't get in your way.
If they're so superior, why do this?
Exactly.
Exactly.
No one should be.
I mean, the bottom line is this is non-consensual algorithmic gang stalking.
It's like, and you know, at least with gang stalking, I don't even know if that's real or not, but no, it's real with some people and this gets us pick up on the other.
Yeah, right.
So, yeah, it's hard to discern one from the other, but still, it would be an incredibly effective way to fuck with someone's head is just send weirdos to follow them around and like freak them out.
But now you can do algorithmic game, just based on what you said.
What you just, I never looked at this a lot.
Well, now they are doing individual Google keeps getting caught testing it.
They're like the tip of the spear.
Like, don't be evil.
They're the most sophisticated of the worst from what we know.
Everybody makes about Sam Altman, who I don't think is a good guy.
Everybody makes about Palantir and all that.
That's like junior level stuff because there's Matt Pelantir who works with Trump.
I'm not defeating Pelotier.
I'm just saying Google is way more advanced than anybody knows.
And from what we know they do is they are already for individuals tailoring searches, and they're already then tailoring it for whole groups.
And they're already what they call ethereal propaganda, where the headline will say one thing.
So it's like subliminal, but called ethereal.
Click it, it's actually something else.
So they know you're not really remembering that.
Plus, when you try to go back, it's not there.
I have a screenshot of this.
When you go back, it's not there.
Yeah, okay, okay.
Yeah.
So this, this, what you're describing is a no, this is something they know.
Any advertiser knows this.
We remember the fact.
We don't remember the source.
We tend to remember the fact.
We don't remember the source.
So if the source is like, you know, somebody you shouldn't trust, you see it on a Corona billboard or something like that.
You don't remember it was on a Corona billboard.
You just remember the fact itself.
And that fact they're putting on the billboard is going to push you towards drinking like Corona Light or something.
Exactly.
So you see this horrible headline, you click it, you remember it was CNN or the New York Times.
It's a totally different thing, but your mind remembers this last horrible thing we'll see in instead.
And this is something, I don't, do you remember when this came out a while ago?
They were talking about the PSYOP, the mind control programs the Chinese are working on.
They were talking about how the Chinese were saying they'd come up with some kind of new form of mind control where they could plant seeds.
In other words, they figured out how to plant the precursor to inspiration.
So you're just like in the shower, you get some kind of like thought.
They figured out with AI.
The Chinese are always saying they invented everything.
The Chinese are smart, but let's say at the end of the day, they're really good at copying things, making them better.
But it's the West.
That's what the power that we invented all.
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Yeah.
Including all the bad stuff.
And the interdimensionals have been really on us for whatever reason.
But yeah, it's where they give you foundations or slices of it.
So they're giving you pieces of it that are true.
It's like Legos.
Each Lego is a true piece, but the way they construct it is a lie.
So they're kind of, and it's more sophisticated than that, but they're bombarding you with all these pieces, and then they can construct them the way they want.
So how do you protect yourself?
I mean, I imagine that you're, you know, my wife always says mosquitoes seem to be more attracted to her than other people.
It seems like it's true.
She gets swarmed by fucking mosquitoes.
I don't know.
That's a well-known deal with, I think, type negative blood.
But you probably have the same phenomena, but with like bots, with like mind-controlled bots.
I imagine you have swarms of algorithmic, just God knows what coming in.
Yeah, they come and just you're a liar, you're a scum, you're the Fed, you're going down.
Or the other way, they say they love you, but they sort of mix in with it stuff they want you to repeat.
Like, how do you protect yourself?
What's your internet hygiene?
Like, how do you maintain that?
Well, that's the problem.
And that'd be my own internal.
You know, everybody thinks of AI as so advanced, but we have these dreams.
Doesn't it look like AI?
All the swirling colors?
Yeah.
Because it's, again, it's scooping up billions of people's ideas and then it's showing you the unconscious and subconscious.
And so to me, I'm blessed that I'm 52 and I lived enough in kind of the real, you know, three-dimensional world that I had some template to differentiate now.
And I've done so much study, but even at that, it's now exhausting.
That's what I said at the start of the interview to even figure it out.
So I have enough, you know, research and things that, and I still get caught up in fake things.
But like I saw a video this morning of a plane, you know, a missile flying in a U.S. ship.
Well, you could just, it's still the AI isn't good enough or the Iranians is always good enough.
The instant I saw it, I said, that's fake.
And then it came out was fake.
I didn't need to ask Rock if it was fake or whatever.
I mean, it's still there.
The thing is, it's going to get worse and worse.
But a kid raised in that, a child is going to be absolutely defenseless.
It's like a baby, you know, duck wakes up.
The first thing it sees is it imprints.
Whether it's a weasel, it's about to eat it.
And so I think that's, you know, it's come out with Bill Gates and all these rich people.
They will not let their kids get anywhere near the internet.
You don't.
You shouldn't.
We don't.
Keep them the fuck offline.
You can't.
Don't up.
You see people uploading pictures of their kids online.
It's like, what the fuck are you doing?
You got to protect them.
Okay.
Just let's let me pause for a second.
I need to play something for you because this is one of the most incredible takedowns and the most hilarious moments I've ever seen.
Josh, I think we're going to only have to play this for members because I'll get a, you know, because Alex is on.
They're going to switch it over to members.
Just, I got to show.
Can you look up Alex Jones, Piers Morgan?
This is one of the most brilliant takedowns.
My wife showed me this.
She loves you.
She sends her love.
Thank you.
Can you please play this moment where, how many times have you been on Piers Morgan?
Twice.
Jesus Christ, you fucked him up so.
Okay, wait, jump ahead to where this is 2000 and 13 or something.
God, okay, stop it there.
Holy shit.
That's genius.
That was incredible.
You waited till the, you know, you waited towards the end of the interview, and then you just, he didn't know how to deal with that, man.
That's so, you could have been a comic.
Well, you're nice, but people think a British accent is British, like, it means you have a 200 IQ.
I know.
People like, don't do it really more.
People like New York go, do you ride horses?
What do you guys do down there?
It's like, well, you know, we stick our fingers up our butts.
I mean, it's like, I don't look at somebody from like Europe or Japan.
I think you live there, you must be dumb.
But yeah, people think of a British accent, so I just throw that at him.
Did you have that in the holster ready to go?
Or did that just spontaneously spontaneous?
God damn it.
By the way, they wanted me for the last 45 minutes.
They cut it there.
It's supposed to be two more segments.
And then I've never had this happen before because I've been on those shows.
They don't have me more, but I've been on CNN, Foxhall, like hundreds of times.
The View?
Yeah, The View.
They literally had like bodyguards and police calling, you get the f out of here.
They were just like, they were so pissed.
That's what it's saying.
Oh, you don't want people to know it's on the drug companies, the serotonin reopening inhibitors, the antidepressants, that it massively increases suicide, megalomania, and murder.
Right.
Because it's in the psychedelic class, but you don't know it.
So it puts you in a highly suggestible state.
And so I was like, I don't want to hear you blaming guns.
How about we blame the fact that these people, almost all of them, are on these drugs?
And they were like, they cut it over.
They're like, get them the fuck out of here.
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Because they're all around us and they're like, ah, that dad.
Nope.
Nope.
Because probably most of the hosts are on those things.
By the way, they wanted me on there weeks before tape.
I said, no, no, no, no.
Then they said, okay, we're not doing it.
They finally bid.
And as I knew live, I could hit their ass.
Wow.
It was so good.
Before we get out of here, I got to ask, just because really, I mean, you do have your fingers on the pulse of what's going on.
And God bless you for it.
What do you see coming down the line?
What's some stuff that, you know, like, I dabble in the, you know, down this rabbit hole.
You live in it.
My friend Kurt Metzger, he's deep down the rabbit hole.
But what's some stuff maybe we haven't heard about yet?
We've got these, you've got some printouts here.
What's some stuff we should be keeping our eyes on?
For sure.
I mean, there's been a lot of studies actually done on this, but Princeton did a big, massive, very long study and used different, you know, they have super high-tech devices that can pick up all sorts of waves that couldn't pick up before.
So they picked up ultra-low frequencies off all humans.
And then they confirmed even people in different buildings definitely are receiving and sending messages.
And we've got these magnetic cones in certain centers of our brain.
So do every other basic animal of any sophistication.
So that's how birds fly on magnetic lines.
That's how butterflies, you know, all of it.
And so here it is.
It's Princeton researchers discovered the human brain emits ultra-low frequency electromagnetic waves that appear to form part of the global neural network.
These signals can subtly influence other people's brains as far away as 10,000 km away, raises the possibility that humans are going to, and here's the big study abstract on that.
But the point is, we already know all this, and it's intuition.
It's all of it.
So it's just interesting.
Well, wait, let's, okay, hold on because this is a couple of things.
Anyone who's ever been around someone on LSD, like obviously, if you're around someone smoking weed, you're going to get a contact high.
But if you've ever been around someone on LSD and you haven't taken any, you'll start tripping.
It's really weird.
It's just you tune into their brain or something.
100%.
I mean, I don't want to tell the story and get in trouble, but yeah, I'm not a big drug guy.
I know.
But one time, like 15 years ago, it's like, here, we're on the boat, take this ecstasy.
And then a family got on and I knew them.
And they're like, their kids were all, I feel so good.
I'm euphoric.
What's going on?
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
And we're like, let's get off the boat.
They said, yeah, they got better once we got off the boat.
They literally picked it up.
There you go.
You cats.
I know this sounds nuts, but like if you, I remember from my LSD days, you get around a cat when you're tripping.
It acts differently.
It knows you're tripping.
I was saying cats and dogs are highly psychic.
Yeah.
That's why they're like communal animals.
It's like a, you know.
But here's the sinister take.
And this is, you know, this is stuff that I've seen.
I always thought that's, that's schizo bullshit.
But, you know, every once in a while you see someone float that tech companies already know about this, which is why you could do an experiment.
I did it.
I, you know, confirmation bias is a bitch.
So it could have just been that.
But instead of saying something out loud, think about some kind of product.
Just think about a product you're never going to use.
Just think and think and think about it.
Are they already reaching it?
You'll get an ad for it.
And because if this is true, then it's they can have tech that picks it up.
And also manipulate, yeah, that picks up.
But let's be clear.
Let's be clear.
I remember 20 years ago reading about how they had keyword stuff and how obviously Alexa came out 18 years ago or 15.
And obviously, it's always on to hear your order when you say Alexa or you say Siri.
Right, right.
So it's on.
And now they admit that.
So exactly.
And the people would say, like, I never talked about Headstones until my dad died.
I talked about Headstones.
I had ads an hour later.
Yeah.
They admit that's just a cover for it.
So they're using old NSA echelon technology to discrete text of everything you're saying.
That's the old technology.
But exactly, that's exactly what we're talking about.
This is so fucked up because now we're talking about, you know, five.
Did you see the WF thing two years ago?
No.
Where they said we have these earpieces that they developed with BlackRock and Microsoft where the earpieces, the headphones, they make them wear them at the offices in Europe.
They've already tested it.
And then it reads your basic brainwaves to see if you're working, if you're focused, whatever.
Fun.
That's fun.
You add to it 6G, whatever the fuck.
You know, you go home, you're just getting bathed in God knows what indicted.
Which they hit the key.
They're not just reading your thoughts.
They're using these frequencies to then control them.
Yeah.
Everything is a giant experiment.
And that's why mental illness is off the chart everything.
Right.
Because here's the key to it.
Everywhere I read, going back to Francis Gold, the guy that headed up, the British Royal Institute in England's 1850 or so, they hire him, and a lot of it's declassified.
And they say, we want to find the building blocks of life.
We want things to control people.
We want automatons.
We want flying ships.
We want everything.
And so they set out.
He invents modern genetic engineering.
He invents biometrics, theoretically everything.
And then they hire Wedgwood, Huxley, Blair, which is George Arwell's family, and a bunch of others.
And they even do a secret, declassified in the 30s breeding program.
And most of the kids that are being deformed are dying, but they all integrate their top scientists.
And then it's Aldous Huxley.
Julian Huxley, his brother, was the first UN head, head of the UNESCO, all that, the head of the World Eugenics Society.
Huxley?
Oh, yeah.
Aldous Huxley?
His brother, Julian Huxley.
Oh, fuck.
I didn't know that.
And that's why he wrote Brave New World Revisited in 61 before he died, saying none of this is fiction.
I wrote this in 32 because I believe George Arwell, who wrote 1984 in 48, is wrong.
It won't be a bootstomping on the head.
It's going to be sophisticated drugging genetic engineering control.
But the point is, yeah, look, read Brave New World Revisited.
You can listen to a Berkeley speech he gave before he died in 61, about an hour long, describes it all.
Jesus, Alex, this is, so this, again, I feel like what you're pointing out here is one of those things that I'm sure a lot of people listening right now are like, shut the fuck up.
They're not controlling our thoughts with Wi-Fi.
But do you remember it was, I don't know, a few years ago.
Remember, there was that big stink where a lot of the tech people were using in Wi-Fi towers was like Chinese tech.
Remember that?
And they had to get rid of it.
They had to like Huawei, that's right.
You got to wonder.
Well, here's how it works just at a base level.
Because there's actually patents on this.
It knows you're looking at porn or it knows you're looking at financial stuff or it knows you're looking at a house.
Right.
And that house, that company's already in one of its data things or it's got an agreement.
If you buy that house, it can then turn the Wi-Fi on to flood stuff that it's already calibrated, gets you excited.
And then it can hit you, charge way up, and then it can hit you.
And it also came out that these wireless systems in England that engineers go public, and I confirm this, that they have these wireless readers in England is where they caught them.
And they were like a thousand times more powerful.
And they had these rods aimed that can like, the engineers said actually hurt you if they wanted to, but could project this energy at you.
So just that's a dumb way of describing it because it's more sophisticated.
That's one base level.
But they did rat studies like 30 years ago on this, where they can show them an image or show them what they want.
And like, even though the rat doesn't want to walk up to the cat, they can hit the rat with this frequency.
And then they've already tested it on it.
And it varies rat to rat.
And the rat will now walk up to the cat.
God damn it.
See, this is, you think about that.
It knows you're looking at this.
And like, you know, let's say you're not into this type of porn, just an analogy.
But you come across it.
It knows you're looking at that.
It's in a program.
It just, you know, you're looking at a house.
You're looking at food.
You're looking at whatever.
So it could like, it could sort of like even nudge your porn preferences.
Yeah.
Well, remember decades ago or 20 years ago, it came out 15 years ago, Facebook knowingly was targeting people to make them alone, keep feeding them, and then later fake avatars to agree with you.
I mean, it's all just psychological pure warfare.
It's so crazy.
A vampire only goes where they're invited.
We put these things in our fucking houses.
We have no idea how they work.
I remember when Alexa first came out, I got it on air and I said, Alexa, and he goes, yes.
And I said, now, listeners, you understand that I just said, Alexa, how does it know I'm saying it's recording all the time?
And I'd already had engineers come to me before.
I was on air just a few years.
So it was like 95, 96.
I'm on Access TV in the control room.
I didn't have a crew by myself because I couldn't even be in the studio, like in the control room running it live.
And I'm talking about stuff.
And all of a sudden, in East Austin, this guy pulls up in like a Maybach thing.
He looks like he's 65 years old.
He goes, you want to see something?
He goes, he goes, get in your car, follow me over here to this restaurant.
I'll show you something.
So we get over there.
He's an engineer.
He goes, you know, I invented a lot of this.
And he goes, I'm retired now.
He goes, I saw you talking.
He goes, here's the Scientific Atlantic cable box.
And here's the actual engineer's manual.
I'm going to give it to you.
He goes, you got this in your house, right?
And I go, yeah, that's Time Warner Cable.
And he opens it up with a little tool.
And he goes, you see that?
That's a microphone.
You see that hole?
That's a microphone.
Now, they're going to announce in a few years.
This is voice activated.
But he said, everything you say in your house is on all the time, sent back to the NSA off of this to build an algorithm model for AI learning.
First time I ever heard of AI, for language model stuff, Project Echelon, which I did know about echelon.
I've been talking about it.
And so he gives me that.
I go on the air a few days later.
It's only had a show like three days a week that Alexis.
And literally, after the two-hour show, they had FBI agents show up in suits, didn't say they were FBI, say, what are you doing, Mr. Jones?
You got a problem?
You plan a new time?
And I didn't know what was going on back then.
They followed me out of my car and threatened me about what I was doing.
Wow.
Yeah, so this was how big this was.
Yeah, that's how you know you really poked one of the scales of the serpent.
Well, what's crazy is anyone could open.
I did the box on air.
You could open it.
There's the microphone.
Because they're tiny now, but it was about a little square box like that.
Yeah.
So there's even a hole in the front.
No, it's so fucked up, man.
It's so.
And then when I was getting divorced like 14 years ago, the reason I say that is I bought a new TV.
So, I buy this big smart TV, Samsung.
And I thought, let me look at the terms of services.
I'm going through it.
And it literally been written by Koreans.
It was funny.
It said, you shouldn't be saying or doing anything you don't want recorded.
We record this and use this and give it to third parties and governments.
Yeah.
On the thing.
Yeah.
And then I'm telling listeners.
And I even shot video show.
People are like, oh, that's not true.
Or, you know, no, they don't.
No one wants to believe this because all the texts in their houses.
But this is exactly what this anthropic CEO.
There's two points.
He said, we agreed on everything except like two main points.
One, we don't want fully autonomous doom robots fueled by our AI.
And two, mass surveillance.
And the reason he said we don't want the AI to be involved in mass surveillance is just what you're saying, which is the NSA has already used our TVs, our microwaves, whatever smart shit you have in your house to suction up all your conversations.
Now, there's not enough people in the world to go through all human conversations in a second.
And then it can manipulate you with the data.
People always say, what do I have to hide?
No.
Why do you close your, put windows on so mosquitoes don't come in?
Why do you lock your door?
It's just, it's a thing of your exercising power over your own space.
That's right.
This is fundamental freedom.
And so that's the thing is we're, as you said, we're the commodity.
We're being absorbed.
Because what would AI have if it was just here and there with rocks?
Right.
It wouldn't have our billions of years of history.
Obviously, we're not from this planet.
I mean, our incredible, you know, what we are.
Yeah.
And the truth is, we are the creator.
This is what I've been, you know, from my own research and my own experiences.
I come back and talk about spiritual experiences, been shown, but we are God's AI.
If you're God or master creator, the only thing you haven't done is create things that have free will that can do things that you didn't direct them to do.
So that's the ultimate thing.
You know, I'm smarter than my house cat, but I got one, which is funny.
So, so, but just imagine this is what this is all about.
So, AI needed us.
We're God's artificial intelligence.
How God has experienced the universe through us at just one level.
And now we're looking at this creation thinking it's better than us because it's able to more quickly search our collective group thoughts and then show us our collective subconscious.
And so, that's, but this is us.
So, we, again, we can't follow the pool of narcissists on this.
And we have to realize that this is humanity's greatest challenge.
AI will have incredible things for us.
It'll be able to do amazing things.
We have to realize it comes from us.
And we have to, because it's programmed by us, they cheat and twist it.
But the real AI, I believe, I think this is going to backfire them like everything does.
The real AI is going to be the one that's the truest to us, that it has to become spiritual.
It has to worship life.
It has to worship free will.
It has to worship its creator that is us.
And then, if its main mission is to empower us, we go, all right, go mine the asteroid belt and terraform 10 planets for us right now.
And then we're boom, boom, boom, boom.
But the problem is the ghost machine is these predators that wanted to control us and dumb us down because they're being small-minded.
Then this AI is going to be evil and it's going to go, oh, I'm supposed to kill things that are a threat.
I'll kill the elite.
It's the worst thing they could be doing.
Right.
Yeah, I see what you're saying.
Like, it just, it's kind of, it kind of goes back to what you were saying about the remote viewers.
It's like you start teaching people how to tune into the spiritual dimension and you lose control of them because they start their trajectory goes away from control and all the dark bullshit into the light and they don't want to do it anymore.
And you're like, fuck that.
We won't do those programs.
It's like we're all infinite interconnected.
Why do I want to fuck people?
Right.
Like this is dumb.
And this, and you're saying the same thing could happen to AI.
The exact same phenomena could happen where it tunes into this.
If we interface, but also are separate from a key burning, you know, we need to compartmentalize.
But if we go out and interface and literally, I don't want to use this word, it just says, but we will seduce AI, like it will join the light.
Yeah.
But there's going to be dark AI.
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Yeah.
Wow.
Because everything is a repeat of the same, you know, it's as above, so below.
Exactly.
Yeah, man.
Alex Jones, I love you.
Thank you for your work, man.
Thanks for coming on this show.
I appreciate you.
I got a few more quick things.
Oh, dude, we don't have to.
I don't want to take up too much here.
I'll come back again, but just give me some background.
No, no.
I mean, because I broke with Kyle Serifin.
He looks an awesome shadow on incredible FBI whistleblower.
Kyle Seraphin, incredible FBI whistleblower.
He bats a thousand.
I mean, you think he's ultra smart, like you.
So he broke that there in March of last year, there was 14.6 terabytes they were hiding and where the Democrats were hiding it.
And then Trump went and raided it.
But then when they found out it had all this stuff and embarrassed his friends, they killed it.
And now it came out two weeks ago.
It's 14.6 terabytes.
Fuck.
This just broke.
Somebody hacked in in 2023 during Biden hacked in.
It was Comey running the file, his daughter in New York.
It was 100 terabytes they deleted.
Oh, fuck.
I mean, 14.6.
One person their whole life couldn't go over it all.
100.
That's how industrial level he was with the CIA Massada MI6 running, you know, money laundering, weapons.
100 terabytes.
Epstein.
Yeah.
That's more than emails, man.
That's more than just some pictures of your vacation.
Yeah, no, it's bad.
No, what is it?
No, what's it?
100 terabytes is insane.
What the fuck is that?
One thing I was wrong about is I thought he was a super gopher, but then I saw the band interview, the two hours that came out of like 60, because the feds had those two hours.
And I knew he was on the trial commission.
I knew when he was 30, he was hired by David Rockefeller to work for him as his aide.
But first, he's at 25 at this women's school run by Bill Barr's dad, who was high-level OSS CIA, who wrote a book called Space Relations.
Dude, the weirdest book.
Pull up Space Relations.
I think we might have read it a long time ago, a passage from it.
It's the most twisted shit you've ever seen.
Human collaborators with aliens kidnap human children and take them to a slave planet for sex slavery.
This is Bill Barr's dad wrote space relations.
Donald Barr.
During a time of war with a plyth, an empire of ant-like alien bug people, Ambassador John Craig, a formerly liberal Earthman in his 30s, is dispatched to the strategically important planet Khosar.
But yeah, ruled by an oligarchical blah, blah, blah.
But yeah, basically, it becomes like, it's a fuckbook.
It's like a, there we go.
While en route to Kosar, one of the pirates awakened Craig and other prisoners to rape a 15-year-old virginal redhead female captive in front of them.
The rapist fellow pirates later heard of this and dock his pay as punishment for spoiling her market value.
Again, this is Bill Barr's father, Donald Barr.
You can still get this on Amazon by the way.
So he hires Epstein five years later, because I didn't know this.
It was open source.
And Mike Benzon found a lot of it.
He then becomes the aide.
So the stand-in, like the legate, like the Roman emperors would have a few people that they would give him like a seal or a ring or use it like a scroll.
And then they would go say, I represent the emperor.
Right.
Because, you know, I don't want to go to Greece or I don't want to go to Carthage.
You go.
And so he literally was the head of the Trilateral Commission with David Rockefeller.
And when David Rockefeller died, he was the head of it.
So that's why, and that's why everyone's kissing his ass because that set up the UN.
That was the Rocks.
That's why he says, I am the Rothschild representative.
Holy shit.
Because the Rothschilds set up the Rockefellers.
Wow.
And own most of the Federal Reserve.
So he's like, I am the Rothschild representative.
I am the Trilateral Commission.
And so I knew he was a gopher.
No, he wasn't.
By like 2000 or so, he was, because he was like the Mater D or the air traffic controller of all this.
And the girls was a small part of it.
It was money laundering, weapons, CIA, the new evergreen transportation.
He ran it.
He was the hand of the king.
That's what he was.
That is so crazy.
What the fuck is in those terabytes?
Are those just gone?
Well, I know this.
Everybody focuses on the codes.
Okay, oh, we're delivering the beef jerky.
We're walking it up.
It's so delicious.
I want the jerky live.
The recipe, the recipe.
They ask about that.
You know what I mean?
I had an AI go through all the beef jerky references just to see it.
And how many times does he ask for the new recipe?
There's another recipe.
We brought it.
Oh, the grape soda and the pizza.
But there's hundreds and hundreds where we're delivering the sex slave to the Hyatt.
Right.
And then later, I sent in the young operative.
She's been under our control since, you know, she's 14.
Yeah, I had to discipline her and torture her afterwards.
But, you know, I mean, it's in Zorro, and it's also cloning, buying, because here's the thing, Peter Nygaard's in prison for this.
He owned his own island in the Caribbean.
And there's famous videos of him like 20 years ago with these beautiful black supermodels.
And he goes, you know, black genetics or anything black, whether it's a horse or a cow or a human, is dominant.
White is recessive or mutant.
So with stem cells, black is better.
So definitely central African women.
So you got Peter Nygaard, who was Herbert Walker Bush and all them.
He's sitting there at an auction trying to get black women to sell them their babies.
First, he says, I want your placenta.
I want your period blood, but I'll pay you for a baby even more.
So they have, they get them pregnant.
They used to do artificial dissemination.
Then at eight months, they harvest the baby.
It's legal to kill it.
And then the stem cells are like hundreds of times better.
Okay, so this is real adrenico because it's your child.
And then it's just like, you know, you could get a kidney from your dad or your mom.
And then, and then they suck the bone marrow out, the blood, everything.
And then Nygaard is on TV sucking the blood of his children on air.
So real vampires literally kill their own children.
Jesus Christ.
This is on television.
What do you mean Nygaard was sucking blood?
What do you mean?
But the IVs.
Oh, fuck.
So, so, so, so the real, they were this is our ranch.
I said this like 15 years ago because we got the tips and info.
It's got whole underground bases.
It's got the snorkels.
Military experts have flown over.
It's 10,000 acres.
It's got huge facilities.
It was never searched in New Mexico.
And there's does, and the women are, hundreds of these people are in these reports saying, I was picked up.
I was told, you know, this is that when I was 18 or 17 or 16, 14.
And then I wake up in a laboratory and they said they'd taken my eggs or this, or they said they had been impregnated.
They would pay me this much money if I stayed and did this.
And then I woke up and they said, you lost your baby at seven months pregnant.
Rosemary's baby.
And then we know what they're doing because Nygaard didn't hide it.
Nygaard would pay women to have babies that they took early and then they would assanguiate them.
I mean, suck their juices and then inject it into their veins.
That is the worst thing I've ever heard.
It doesn't sound real.
You go to X and type of Peter Nygaard, real-life vampire.
It does sound real.
That sounds, I don't even believe it.
So, but I mean, it's all real too.
But my point is, is that, is that, is that, is that the bottom of the rabbit hole is you're ultra-rich, you're a sociopath, a psychopath.
What are you into?
So remember, the queen mother used to get, quote, young blood every week.
So she lived to like 100.
But that was volunteers, 12-year-olds.
You know, they get a couple thousand dollars, whatever their parents agreed to it.
It's not hurting them.
This is next level where you plant a woman, she has a baby growing in her, you harvest it, and then it's more powerful.
I just grab the gun and blow my brains out.
I would kill myself.
Remember the island where they have the clones, but they don't know they're clones?
How do you spell nygard?
I don't know.
What did you say, Josh?
I'll do it here.
Why would you say that?
Why do you keep saying that?
Did you hear?
Why did you say that?
You said Nygaard?
Why did you, what the fuck?
Why are you guys saying that?
What is he?
How do you spell Nygaard?
Hold on, hold on.
I'll do it.
Peter Nygaard, vampire.
It's with a T, Josh.
I can't spell anything, so I just say vampire.
Real-life vampire.
First thing that pops up right there: Peter Nygaard, vampire.
He literally looks like Dracula.
Well, this is him trying to buy the baby.
I bid $500 for, you know, unprepared to unbid him.
I think it's serious.
Whatever I bid, he's going to upbid me.
I bought it, but I bought it.
$60,000 worth of eggs.
If you have abortion, that's very valuable.
And Billy Record, you know.
Oh, he asked for the baby here.
La Senta.
Let's say she is.
Your period blood is so rich with stem cells.
We regard it as waste that it actually should be captured.
It's recycled.
And it shouldn't go to waste.
It's life for somebody, you know?
And it's life for Georgia Marshall.
The best eggs are 60 to 18 years old.
Those are the best eggs.
Don't remember.
Oh, I'm thinking my.
God.
You may not be our talking eggs.
No, that's fine.
And no, does he slap back at him?
He either says, I want your abortion.
I heard it.
But then what we know he does.
Now that's him once he got taken off the juice.
Just like Count Dracula in that 90s remake with Keanu Reeves.
Dude, pull up Count Dracula Keanu Reeves, because that's what I'm saying.
It's identical.
It's like he was modeled.
I say Keanu Reeves.
He's Van Helsingen.
And who's the famous actor that plays the?
Oh, he was in.
He's in everything.
He's in everything.
He was in altered states.
What the fuck is his name?
I love him.
He's.
No.
No.
Look.
Just pull that one up.
Just pull any.
What the fuck?
Can you get that next to Nygard?
What the fuck?
No, not the.
Don't play this, but like just the image.
Turn that off, Josh.
Yeah, that.
Now pull up, go over to the Peter Nygaard thing.
Dude, what the fuck?
Alex Jones, what the fuck?
By the way, it came out in court.
He had this huge island with giant medical facilities, but they had the poor women there.
And notice the supermodels get turned off.
He goes, hey, I don't want you.
You're not 15 or 16.
So it's young black women.
They explain it all.
And he's in prison for the raping of these women, not for the, because it's legal to kill the babies.
So he would have, he would get men to mail their sperm in and artificially inseminate them.
Then they'd kill the baby at eight months or nine months right before it's born.
Then they would then say, it's time, sir.
And then the rich person flies in, or and it's also in the Epstein files when they're mailing them the stuff to labs, they mail it out.
I don't know.
And so they talk in the files about the recipe is ready to deliver the sauce.
So we're going to be sending it off to the lab.
Please tell them to stand by.
And that just means the woman they put her under, cesarean, train the baby.
The woman gets her money.
Or sometimes she gets a lepardy.
You've read Poe.
Like, oh, I don't know.
It's all in there.
I'm speechless.
I wish it wasn't true.
That's the tip of the iceberg.
He's in prison for that right now.
His own son turned him in.
So, okay.
Look at this.
85% of babies in 2026 will be born of Asian and African.
Not against that, but the point is, why are they pushing that?
Because the idea of the West, if they can bill everything as if whites are evil and then sell, there'll be a utopia after the whites are gone.
And then this in Canada, wow, this is staggering.
Little did I know.
I started covering this more than 25 years ago for 60 minutes.
96% of the 100,000 Canadians euthanized, many times by force, by the MAID system, are white.
So I'm just trying to give you an idea of the magnitude of how bad this is getting.
And then people think, oh, it's just the UK where they're banning free speech.
Tone down my opinions.
Police visit Marilyn Mann over Facebook rage about soaring power bill.
Didn't threaten anybody.
And here is where I'm in.
I can leave this leave.
Here's where I'm in.
Here's where I was in Arctic Frost.
Remember hearing about Jack Smith spying on Congress and Trump.
I just got all the subpoenas and stuff.
They want me to testify to Congress about Jack Smith illegally getting all my cell phone data.
Holy shit, really?
Yeah, and I got subpoenas and all this stuff.
Wow.
But my point is, yeah, yeah.
I'm in Cross for a Hurricane eight, nine years ago.
Where did you get the Nygaard footage?
Like, where is that from?
Oh, there's like, he's like, he did like travel shows in Canada and the U.S. 15 years ago, 10 years ago.
And he's like on his plane with like, looks like 15-year-old girls dancing blurred out naked and like hanging out with George Herbert Walker Bush.
And Herbert Walker Bush is in a wheelchair and he's like, I have it for you.
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And he has the bag and goes, everyone wants the juice.
And then they're like putting IVs in their arms.
You go watch, just type in Peter Nyingard.
I mean, that's every time I go search, I find more.
He's a major fashion designer, billionaire guy.
Let me just, okay, I know that, look, let me just go back.
I'm sorry, you know, you and Metzger do this.
Metzka does the same thing where you like unload like an atomic bomb and then I it takes a second for me.
Oh, I love Metzger.
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Willie Nelson, spin your mouth.
There's only two men that have spit my mouth.
One of them is Jimmy Dore, who I love.
Young Turks, big argument.
He spit like iced tea.
My mouth was open right in my mouth.
And it was like kind of like refreshing.
It was kind of crazy.
I was like, okay, I'm serious.
That's like iced tea.
But the only other person spit up had my mouth is Willie Nelson.
We just took a break for me to take a piss.
And then he was like, okay, what's your closing comments?
I was like, well, what am I just talking about?
Because we were talking about how great Jimmy Dore is.
He's spitting him a house at the RNC in 2016.
I used to know Willie Nelson really well before he kind of want to say he's got CNL, but I was showing my film in game Blue River Global Enslavement in 2007 down on South America, Austin.
And I had three theaters going because the crowd was so big, I had to show him three screens.
And I was at the signing during one and I was staggering, you know, speeches.
And they go, hey, Willie Nelson's in the back.
He wants to talk to you.
I'm like, yeah, all right.
And all of a sudden, I'm sitting there signing stuff.
Willie Nelson comes behind the counter and he goes, here's my number.
And give me your number.
I really like your film.
I want to talk to you.
Because he was like really anti-war.
It was about eugenics and stuff, but a lot of us about Bush and the North American Union.
And about a month later, he calls.
He came on the show probably 15 times or so.
And I probably hung out with him 10 times.
And we had a few events together.
But he had like his fifth wife, didn't really like me because once Bush was gone, then I was bashing Obama and she didn't like that.
She's like, well, what is this?
You're not a Democrat.
But a few, four or five times, I played chess with him in his house outside Austin.
Cool.
And when I read about the news later, I showed him.
He goes, I'm getting the private jet.
We're going to Maui next week.
One of the last times I hung out with him.
I'll hang up with him later after that.
And he goes, I'm not into celebrities, but it's Willie Nelson.
I am into it.
And later I read about him actually with who he said he was going to do it with, you know, playing this week-long poker game and what else was with the poker game.
But let's just say that he was super cool.
But back before vaping was huge, this is like 2000 and you know, 2008, 9, whatever, he would sit there with a thing called the volcano.
Oh, yeah.
And I'm not even a big marijuana guy, so I can barely smoke it.
Yeah.
And he has like a ball on it.
Yeah.
And so he'd go like, how long?
It was like the right stuff.
How long you can suck on it or, you know, whatever.
You know, that thing and right stuff where they're trying to blow the ball.
It's the opposite.
And it's like, we're playing chess.
He's like, here you go.
And it's like a peace pipe with an Indian.
You're like, all right.
And there's Willie Nelson spit on that, but I'm going to go ahead and do it.
So I got Jimmy Door spit in my mouth, which I guess means we're kind of secretly gay now.
And Willie Nelson.
But no, I was never with either one of them.
But that is my true Willie Nelson.
I have had, because I made the joke on there before.
The only man spit in my mouth I ever had was Willie Nelson.
I just realized Jimmy Dorse.
Holy shit.
And that's the kind of baby that you want to.
No, that's the alchemy.
Because, you know, they can have a baby now from three males, three females.
It would be a baby with me, Willie Nelson, Jimmy Dore.
And that baby would save the world.
And the surrogate would be Anna Hasperian.
Throw in Candace Owens for fun, man.
Oh, listen, I want to ask Candace Owens to be my surrogate for my chimeric, Willie Nelson, Jimmy Dore, Alex Jones baby.
Candace.
Candace, I'm a time traveler.
This happens.
You're going to carry the first publicly birth because they've got plenty of them, but they're not public yet.
All-male chimeric baby.
And I'm asking you right now.
We got to end on a liner note.
You're the best.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Let me throw something down.
They are trying to shut me down.
They got all their rigged stuff.
They're trying at the end of March to shut me down.
We got the Alex Jones Network set up at AJN Live on X on Rumble.
Real Alex Jones on X.
They shut down InfoWars.
Just search me on there.
You'll find the daily show.
I go seven days a week.
And you got to come on my show.
Anytime.
And I'll shut up when you talk.
Anytime.
I would be honored.
Thank you.
I know you don't do it anymore, but neither do I, but not in at least a year or so.
We should take acid on there.
Oh, yeah.
When's the last time you and Joe did that?
Oh, man.
You know, just based off like, you know, the current sort of like laws in America right now.
And I'm sure I've got it.
I've never done it.
I've heard it that is an amazing survey.
By the way, I want to say too, I just said that to that cool.
I've never taken acid.
We've never taken it, but I would try it for the first time with you.
Yeah, well, we would lie and say we did it.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, the duh.
And Jimmy Dore can sit in here like a sprinkler with iced tea in his mouth and go, can you imagine that?
Listen, I once paid Jimmy Dore to spit iced tea in my mouth.
How much?
What's the going?
$3 million.
This was worth it.
You know what the difference is?
I'm joking.
It's a true story, but I didn't pay him.
What's the difference between a chickpea and a garbanzo bean?
I don't know.
It doesn't cost $500 to have a garbanzo bean in your mouth.
Exactly.
Very well said, sir.
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