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	Tomorrow's news today.
	It's Wednesday, August 13th, 2025.
	502 Central Standard Time.
	I'm in Austin, Texas.
	And Nicholas J. Fuentes in Chicago in his studios.
	And we are going to him live for a discussion, debate.
	But when he was on a few weeks ago, A, I've been up since 5 a.m. and I was extremely tired.
	I was not drunk as some people thought, though I wish I was.
	And he did a great job, and people enjoyed it, but but I you know didn't bring much debate to it because I do disagree with some things that always makes it more interesting to have a spirit of discussion that brings out the best thoughts in people.
	But since then, I do have some disagreements.
	Um on things like Trump wants, you know, police state martial law.
	I mean, I think that goes too far.
	Though the direction it's going at some point could become dangerous, but right now it's a response to all the tyranny in some other areas as well.
	And I just decided before we went live, so I'm not sneak attacking Nick with this.
	I made the decision on this.
	I said, hey, what topics you want to cover?
	Here's the topics I want to cover.
	They basically the same topics.
	I never get into the infighting.
	I never get into uh all of the soap opera stuff that happens in conservative, populist, Christian common sense media.
	But this infighting or whatever you want to call it with Nick Fuentes and Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson and now everybody piling on against Nick has to be addressed.
	And I was thinking about it literally five minutes ago.
	And you know, Nick's a smart guy, so he doesn't mind something being sprung on him.
	And I'm like, let's go there first.
	Uh, because I like all these people, and I need them all to succeed, especially people like Elon Musk and behind the scenes.
	You see Roger, the articles were publishing about trying to get him back in the White House.
	It was bad when he left, and a lot of the big problems started then.
	So I I have had more people come up to me in the streets on the hike and bike trail, uh, family, grocery stores.
	I mean, basically everywhere I go, they come up and talk about Nick Fuentes and uh Tucker Carlson and all the rest of this, Candace Owens, and that's interesting because I know Buzz.
	I've been on the air 31 years, had success pretty much right away locally, and then within a few years got syndicated and had big success 25 years ago.
	So I know buzzes when I see them.
	And this buzz rivals buzzes when I've like, you know, go on Joe Rogan and it gets 100 million views.
	I I mean I I've I can count on one hand the times I've seen buzzes this big.
	When Trump's common show and stuff like that, uh this in ways is bigger.
	And and that shows how seismic it is.
	And yeah, it's true.
	The attacks on Fuentes backfired, and it's making it exponentially bigger.
	And so it's just important, I think from 35,000 foot view, if Nick can do this, to analyze it as a political analyst and as a media analyst instead of himself personally.
	So there I sprung it.
	I want to do that first and go through the other topics uh with him.
	Nick thinks Trump's betrayed everything on the border deportations.
	I'm tracking the numbers.
	I know the insiders, I know they dismantled it under Biden.
	He's scaling up.
	I uh I know Trump's backed off some on you know the skilled visa stuff, so Nick's got his points, but but still, I want to ask Nick, why are you just a hundred percent?
	It seems on Trump and not the Democrats.
	That's probably my biggest beef, because we can criticize Trump all day and try to keep on the straight narrow and be mad at him if we want, and not even supporting, but we can support good stuff he's doing.
	So why does Nick spend most of his time on Trump?
	And I think that's a legitimate question.
	We'll go to Nick here in a moment.
	But first, my message to the globalists who are the real enemy that they have awoken the terrible giant.
	And Trump's just a symbol of that riding in on the surfboard.
	We brought this, this global awakening, and it is supercharged right now.
	And the man of the moment, which once you hit this type of moment, it isn't a moment, it Goes on and it gets bigger is Nick Fuentes.
	And I talked to him a couple weeks ago.
	I saw him on his own show that night because I watched part of the next morning when I was working out.
	He said, Yeah, I think they're gonna try to come after me and kill me now.
	We already have.
	I called him and I said, Let me tell you, I've been around the block.
	You better watch your ass because this is you're about to go next level, and the Death Star is gonna take a shot at you.
	So here's our message to the globalists.
	Remember, folks, they're the real enemy, and they're in trouble.
	Here is the terrible giant, and we'll go right to Nick Fuentes.
	Everybody watching, share the live feed right now from his feet at Rumble, ours at Rumble, Real Off Shows on X, Infowars.com forward slash show.
	Share it, because this is gonna be a lively discussion, a lot of inside baseball, a real debate, and more.
	We'll go as long as Nick wants to go, stay with us.
	We are the number one hated and attacked media organization in the world by every evil, disgusting, sickening organization on the face of the planet.
	And I'm gonna say it.
	If you're gonna go, go as big as you can.
	That's why John Hancock literally saw people signing their names a little bit and people he knew signed them.
	You really couldn't tell who they were, and I get it.
	Every person signing that was signing their potential death warrant.
	He got up there and went boom, and he said, If I'm gonna have the king coming after me, I want him to come after me number one.
	That's a pretty large signature, Johnny.
	Yeah, and I'm gonna risk my life fighting tyranny.
	Anybody that's ever been in fights, you know, looking for fights, but you've been in a few.
	You learn, you hesitate when somebody's trying to beat the hell out of you.
	You're gonna get your ass kicked, but you just decide to beat the living hell out of them and stop worrying about who's winning, and you're gonna win almost every time unless you're fighting Mike Tyson.
	I know people will knock you upside the head really hard and like sit back and look at what it did.
	Or somebody will hit you in the side of the head with baseball bat and they'll kind of sit back and watch and see what it did.
	I'm like a terminator.
	You're about to find out.
	I'll suffer that bat up your ass and turn you into a popsicle.
	So that's what's going on here.
	And I love it because we're drawing their fire.
	We've exposed them, we've drawn them out of their rat holes to do all of this.
	The Soros scum and the Soros DA and all of them.
	They're filth.
	They're disgusting tyrants.
	Just like judges in Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia.
	They're disgusting.
	And it's like we're in the dark, and they got night vision.
	We're in a pitch black arena with no light, and they've got their illuminators on, and they can see us, and we can't see them.
	Well, guess what?
	I walked over with my listeners collectively and pulled the switch and turned the lights on.
	The real wars here with the globalists and Soros and Obama and the New World Order and BlackRock.
	They've declared war on us, and we accept the challenge.
	We're attacking the country back.
	Their attacks on Trump, their law fair, their all the criminal activity.
	How'd that work out for them?
	They were dumb enough to brag, remember everywhere.
	It'll be over for Trump when this mug shot comes out in Georgia.
	Haha, we're finally getting it.
	Every channel, remember?
	It's the end, the mug shot, the mug shot, the mug shot.
	And then Trump nails it with a beyond Clint Eastwood badass American Eagle gaze of total defiance that everybody looks at and knows deep down.
	That's the alpha male.
	That's the badass.
	That's the defiant real person.
	You can't fake that look.
	And then when they shot him, you got even more of that look.
	Except the lips pulled down and the teeth bared and the eyes bugging out.
	Yes.
	Yes, we get to see who's really who at times like this, don't we?
	And now the bad guys are gonna find out who's really who, aren't you?
	Because the veneer of civilization is burning off.
	And all the posers and all the thugs and all the boys who thought they had this country on it, and he's and cowed, are now just beginning to understand that they have awoken the terrible giant.
	I'm out.
	All right, ladies and gentlemen.
	I am fired up tonight because I got to sit there in Austin Court.
	They didn't want me in the courtroom, but I was watching it.
	Because the judge hadn't called me with that Gware Gamble that did that rig court case with the show trial and all that.
	And after the debate tonight with Nick Fuentes, I'll give you a huge update.
	Remember how they did a fake auction and got caught and the judge said it was illegal.
	Remember how they closed the doors and turned the internet off and the judge overrode them?
	They just appointed a receiver and gave them the order to send in the Austin Travis County Sheriff's Department and seize the building when there's a stay, and the federal judge has blocked it.
	And that's gonna be huge when they come in here and grab the building, and then a federal judge overrides them, it's cut and dry.
	But it's just like these federal judges saying Trump can't deport people when it's right in the Constitution.
	So of course it got overridden by the Supreme Court and other appellate courts.
	I mean, when you know the law, it's I mean, it's cut and dry.
	And she just did it again.
	And she told my lawyers, you can't talk.
	I'm doing this.
	So I don't know what the sheriff's department's gonna do.
	I don't know if they come tomorrow next week.
	I mean, you you can't make up cliffhangers like this.
	So I'm pretty pissed off and wound up.
	So that's coming up.
	But it's also really good from what I've been told.
	I mean, this is crazy.
	But it shows how desperate they are.
	Now, I wanted to get Nick on, and I asked him to come on last week, this week, uh, to, you know, discuss the whole waterfront and you know where the world's going, and and you know, also the uh Netanyahu's trying to drag us into war with Iran again and all the rest of it.
	And I wanted to debate him on the border and and enforcement, because I think Trump overall is the best job with the tools they have and they're gearing up.
	It'll be a friendly debate.
	But since then he's come out and said, you know, he thinks you know that Trump wants this as a police state, so you know for Israel or something.
	And Israel is involved with anti-free speech laws and training police and things.
	So you you that's actually a real fear, I believe, but I I don't see that as why Trump's doing this.
	We'll debate that.
	And that's a real issue.
	I I disagree with Nick on.
	And I'm gonna let him put out his view on it.
	I don't want to misrepresent it.
	But as I just said in the intro, uh, I don't think I've ever seen Buzz this big uh on a topic.
	I mean, every time I go out in public and walk around at least 10, 15 people, you know.
	I mean, if I see like, you know, the guy comes to clean the pool or something, he doesn't bring it up.
	But I mean, if I get around a gas station, a grocery store, anywhere, multiple people bring up Nick Fuentes and this big battle, and everybody thinks he's being ganged up on, and he's a really smart guy.
	And uh, you know, wow, that they heard he was a bad guy, but now they love his show.
	And the show's been big forever.
	Uh, he's been around you know, eight years or so, nine years, but it's exploded.
	And and I know when something explodes like that, I called him a week and a half ago, and I said, You better get ready for the big attacks.
	And and look, I'm not fighting with Tucker or Candace or Elon Musk.
	I love all those people.
	And I think they have their own perspectives and own, you know, their own issues, and I defended Tucker because he confided me two weeks after his dad died when I was up there with him for a few days at a dinner and lunch.
	That wow, I knew he worked with the CIA because USA did, and and and voice for America and all that, but I didn't know he was high level, and he was high level.
	I said, Tucker, come on.
	You know, that's that's so so I don't think Tucker's lying about that.
	Uh so I've I've said my little intro, but just in general, I have been extremely famous for 15 years.
	I mean, really famous for 2530.
	So I know what it's like.
	I know what happens, I know how people get jealous, they come after you, or they they think you're a bad guy, a lot of stuff happens.
	And you know, Nick's 26, he uh, but he's been you know active for politics for at least 10 years or so.
	So he's a he's a big guy.
	Uh, but at the same time, it's this phenomenon that that goes on uh that is a zeitgeist.
	And when you become the symbol of a zeitgeist, as I have been, and as Trump has been, and only a few others, and Tucker is kind of the voice of the populist conservative movement.
	He's an icon.
	When you get to that level, just a lot of things happen that are good and or bad, but bigger than Nick Fuentes is the issue of the symbol he's become, and the fact that that's a bellwether or a canary in the coal mine that I the Great Awakening's been accelerating for at least 10 years, but it's it's it's it's exploding now.
	And there is a total break with the system and anything seen as establishment.
	And so uh is it healthy to have all this fighting and all these people going after each other?
	Well, at the end of the day, it is healthy to have a debate about the populist movement and the Republican Party and our ongoing somewhat successful takeover of that.
	And so overall, this is very positive what's happening, and really the end of political correctness, people not just minding being politically correct, but actually reveling in it, understanding that we've been bullied and intimidated, and that's a very healthy thing.
	But then out of that, you can swing too far to the other side, uh, which, you know, I believe is a danger as well.
	So we are in a time of momentous change.
	You have a lot of people, the Democratic Party is certainly still in their bubble, but a lot of Republicans that really aren't even neocons, but rub shoulders with both sides of the populist and neocon movement, uh, that like Charlie Kirk, uh, you know, that now are sounding now more like Fuentes,
	and then just like Fuentes at Turning Point and you know, all these other groups eight, nine years ago, they saw he was a smart guy, uh charismatic, you know, even when he was 18 years old, bring him in, hire him, and then try to send him to Israel and brainwash him and make him do that.
	That made him go the other direction.
	They kind of, I would say accelerated him becoming what he is today.
	And it's the same thing when now Charlie Kirk is like, I have the Jewish lobby, the Israel lobby, calling up and threatening me, and I've been your greatest ally.
	How dare you?
	And that's how this process begins.
	And then you've got you know, Flynn, who's like, hey, I'm a big fan of Israel, helped him, worked with them, on on, but they stood down on October 7th.
	They're trying to drag us into war.
	They are manipulating the White House, and they're a danger.
	So I've got to come out against what's happening in Israel.
	You have to, okay.
	There's there's there's no other way.
	But then I don't want to be associated, not because I get attacked or because the ADL will be mean to me, they already are, with the people that take it to the total cuckoo land and you know, say evil only exists because of these interests when there's other fish to fry and and and other issues as well.
	Though Israel through Netanyahu and others is trying a full takeover in this power vacuum of the White House.
	So now I've gone great guns and said now this is the big central attack, uh, because it is true what people were saying in the past.
	It was partially true before, now it really is.
	And so we have to just be honest about that.
	But that's not because I didn't hold back because I didn't want to be attacked.
	I was being attacked even more because I was attacking the policies of the globalists, which Israel supports and others, and that and the ChaiCom's all been in alignment.
	And so I was getting a big tent and mainlining this.
	That was what I was doing.
	But that was good in the past and it helped build all of this.
	Now it's out all out in the open.
	Now we move into the the out in the open mask-off battle.
	Uh so that's a long 15-minute rant intro.
	I'm gonna give Nick Fuentes the floor here for at least 15 minutes.
	Uh, and and we'll start the debate portion after that.
	And I appreciate him being here tonight.
	I know he's got his own stream coming up this evening as well at like nine or 10 o'clock at night.
	He does it different times to go wherever you want, but I'd like you to also spend some time addressing uh the attacks that have really, I mean, I'm not even looking for it, and it's everywhere.
	Phone calls in my email, text messages.
	I go to X trying to look up peace summit stuff, and it's it's it's all I mean, you just see everybody jumping on, piling on to get Nick Fuentes.
	And, you know, a lot of that is just again, the dogpiling thing, you know, kind of a mask, mask formation, uh, mob psychology.
	And then I sit back and I go, if they're jealous or don't like you or think you're really the devil or a secret Fed, that's the last thing you do creating a mass stride-send effect.
	So the rocket your ass was strapped to two weeks ago, now just is going 10 times faster.
	And so that is an amazing uh place to be.
	So that's just my gestalt uh stream of consciousness rant.
	Nick Fuentes, Nick J. Fuentes on Rumble, uh find you on X as well.
	Uh thank you for being here.
	You've got the floor.
	Yes.
	Well, thank you for having me.
	It it has been certainly a strange couple of weeks uh with everything that's gone on.
	And, you know, I've seen people characterize it on Twitter, the sort of feud that's been going on With Candace, with Tucker, with Elon, with all these different figures.
	And I don't know that you would characterize it this way, but I've seen other people say this.
	They say it's infighting.
	And I don't really like that term because I don't think it does justice to what actually took place, which is that uh you and I were both really on top of this back in June.
	There was a war in Iran.
	It really all goes back to this, at least for me.
	And I think, you know, you asked me to kind of take the 20,000 foot view, the 30,000 foot view.
	To me, the 30,000 foot view has so much to do with the populist movement with Trump and with the situation in Iran as it has unfolded over the past few years.
	So going back to June, you and I were on this.
	I was doing these big streams covering the war.
	I did your show.
	You were doing huge streams covering the war in Iran.
	It was blowing up.
	I do this show with Candace Owens, who I've had a little drama with her in the past.
	I've also helped her in the past.
	So we've had kind of a relationship which has been characterized by sometimes friendliness, but sometimes negativity.
	And without relitigating the entire drama, we do an interview in the middle of the war, and we don't talk about the war at all.
	We don't talk about Trump.
	We don't talk about uh, you know, our cancellation, the Daily Wire, any of these things.
	She's pressing me about drama, things like this.
	Now, some people thought it was an interesting interview.
	A lot of people are disappointed in what we talked about, or maybe what we did not talk about.
	Needless to say, there was this big reaction to how she handled it and that it was behind a paywall, all these things.
	Then she goes on Tucker and Tucker Carlson calls me a Fed.
	I do this big reaction stream to that.
	It clearly that accusation backfires.
	Now, I don't know Tucker.
	I've never met him, I've never talked to him, but he seems to, uh, without watching my show or knowing me, he seems to think that he knows exactly what I'm about and made a very serious accusation.
	Uh, not only did he say that I'm an asset of the left or of the federal government, he says, but I'm this weird gay kid in my basement from Chicago and who is this guy and all this stuff.
	This backfires.
	And then a week later, I get Elon Musk replying to Milo, accusing me of being a Fed.
	And you take this whole thing together, and I wouldn't characterize that as infighting.
	I would say what that looks like to me is a coordinated attack.
	I think it stinks.
	I think it reeks of coordination because it's the same types of accusations coming from people that are all connected to each other.
	Elon replied to Milo.
	Milo did a show with Candace the week before.
	Candace did the show with Tucker the week before that.
	And Candace and Tucker did a show right around the time that she quit Daily Wire.
	So it's like all these people know each other.
	They're all connected and clearly talking in the same, you know, two to three week period.
	They're all saying the same things.
	And so it stinks to me like this is kind of like an avalanche.
	It's almost like a backlash my popularity.
	And for me, the big question is this.
	I think everybody's assumption based on what has taken place in the past year and a half, ever since the war in Gaza, obviously there's this mass awakening about Israel and the influence of Israel and how that is detrimental to the United States that we're being drawn into this conflict.
	We're backing a genocide.
	It's 30 billion dollars in aid, it's World War III, all these things.
	And these figures like Candace and Tucker in particular, they rise to the surface and are elevated.
	Whereas Tucker was at Fox News and Candace was at Daily Wire, suddenly they are these major critics of Israel.
	They're major critics of what's going on.
	Now, to the layperson, you would say they're kind of meeting me where I was.
	I've been on this, as you know, for 10 years.
	I was known as the anti-Semite.
	I was known as the anti-Israel guy.
	Now, the lay person would say, Candace and Tucker are kind of coming around.
	They woke up, they got red pilled.
	They're on, they're on the right side now.
	They're pushing the truth.
	And that's why there's this strangeness that it reeks of coordination.
	It reeks of this coordinated attack, and from the least likely people, you would think the attack would come from the usual suspects, like a Ben Shapiro, a Charlie Kirk, Who I have feuded with over the years, who are very pro-Israel, who are much closer to the establishment.
	That it would come from these relative outsiders that were jettisoned by Fox and Daily Wire in the past couple of years that broke with that consensus view.
	For this coordinated attack to come from them is very suspicious.
	And I drew a lot of attention to that on my show, the suspicious nature of it and said, you know, maybe things are not as they seem.
	Now, you know, as far as you're concerned, you know both Candace and Tucker.
	You had Candace on your show last week.
	I know you're good friends with Tucker.
	And, you know, I saw what you said.
	I appreciated that you defended me from the accusation that I'm a Fed.
	But what I would say is this this is sort of where I'm at psychologically.
	I don't know Tucker.
	I don't know Candace.
	I don't know her well.
	I've obviously met her and had my interactions with her recently.
	But I would say this if they are good faith actors, if they're honest journalists, if they mean what they say and say what they mean, if they are who they say they are, maybe this is all just a big colossal misunderstanding.
	Maybe they legitimately have real concerns about me.
	Maybe it's not coordinated.
	And to that I would say, why doesn't Tucker Carlson have me on his show?
	Better yet, why doesn't he talk to me on the phone privately?
	I don't need the clout at this point.
	I mean, the whole view.
	Well, I'll shut up, but that's where I was gonna go next.
	I I I can call Tucker and ask him, can you imagine if I hosted a debate even remotely?
	And I'd be fair, that would be massive.
	Everybody wants that.
	I mean, I know Candace has you for another debate, and usually, you know, the person that loses, and I wouldn't say she did, you know, once you know the nether one, but you and Tucker, that would be the new debate.
	You would accept that if if if I hosted a debate with you and Tucker.
	Oh, absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	And you could call it a debate, a discussion, whatever you want to do.
	I would do a debate, absolutely, because, you know, he made specific claims pertaining to Joe Kent.
	He said the reason that he's suspicious of me is because of my attacks on Joe Kent.
	And I've said this to you, and I've said it to Candace, and I've been saying it to anyone who will listen, in fairness, almost to the point of being a nuisance.
	I've told that story about Joe Kent for many years.
	Even politics, a lot of people don't really remember Joe Kent.
	Well, you're a recap, people that don't know then.
	Sure.
	So Joe Kent ran for Congress in 2022.
	And he received some backing from Peter Thiel.
	And he had a mutual friend, Matt Brainerd.
	Matt Brainerd was his first hire on his campaign.
	He was a consultant.
	Brainerd was at AFPAC.
	He was at my convention.
	And long story short, Joe Kent attacked me in 2022.
	I initially supported him.
	I talked to him on the phone.
	We were going to send the Groipers out to Washington to help him.
	And out of a clear blue sky in 2022, he launches this attack on me and says that he condemns me because of my opposition to Israel and because I talk about race and religion.
	He said that my message does not fit with inclusive populism, which is his vision.
	Now, in response to his attack, I mobilized the Groipers to Washington.
	And the Grupers that were going to help him, then were hurting him.
	And I said, we will not reward betrayal.
	We will not reward people that claim to be America first, but are really Israel first.
	We're going to make an example out of him.
	Now, Joe Kent lost.
	It was a major upset that was rated as a safe Republican district.
	And he lost by like a thousand votes.
	And so credibly, you could say that I caused him to lose.
	But I caused him to lose to make an example out of someone that says they're America first.
	But when the chips are down, they're really Israel first.
	Now, Tucker was good friends with Joe Kent.
	And they had this relationship.
	Tucker promoted Joe Kent on his show.
	And I think that Tucker blamed me for the loss.
	This is his friend.
	And he said, Oh, you made my friend lose.
	What motivation would you have to see this guy who purports to be America first?
	Why would you want to take him out?
	And so Tucker then worked with Max Blumenthal on a hit piece in the gray zone.
	And that's where all this you're a federal agent accusation originated was from a hit piece in the gray zone in February 2023, just a couple of months after Joe Kent lost.
	And, you know, so maybe that's just a misunderstanding.
	But I have said repeatedly, I did not come at Joe Kent randomly.
	I didn't pick on him because he was great.
	I was supporting him.
	Then he disavowed me Because I criticize Israel.
	Like it doesn't get more on the nose than that.
	And so I would either like the opportunity to tell Tucker that or to debate about that.
	But for him to say that, uh, you know, I'm like mobilized by the intelligence agencies or by the left to take out Joe Kent because he's a legit fighter of for America first, you know, that's just not true.
	And, you know, it's on Twitter for everybody to see.
	You could still find those tweets.
	They're still up there.
	And I've been consistent on that story for three years now.
	So anyway, so that was the basis of his attack.
	And if I could sit down with him and really just squash the beef, and you know me, I mean, we've had debates and we've had interviews.
	I'm a big boy.
	If Tucker wants to give me the Ted Cruz.
	I called you maybe Hitler.
	And I mean it is a joke.
	And you know, other people would have, oh, how dare you use minute, but one is we've we've had some real debates.
	Absolutely.
	And I'm not gonna back down or shy away from the questions.
	And as far as Tucker's concerned, I like you want to see America succeed.
	I am not one of these people that is um advocating for violence or for civil war or anything like that.
	I actually want Trump to succeed.
	I want America to succeed.
	I want the border to be closed.
	I want to avoid a conflict in the in the Middle East.
	Tucker has been working to prevent a war in Iran.
	So have I. I've been calling that, and so have you.
	I mean, so I look at the three of us as very aligned on certain things, things that are good for America, like being against the war.
	And that's why it's puzzling that for three years, Tucker's or two and a half years, Tucker's been working against me in this way, making these accusations.
	And here's the thing Tucker has 17 million followers.
	He's got a massive show.
	If he is promulgating this idea that I'm a Fed in private and in public, that's very damaging for me.
	And so when I go on my show and say, why is he doing this?
	Is it because his dad is in the CIA?
	I'm defending myself.
	I'm being put in this position where very powerful, influential people with credibility in our movement, whether it's Candace or Tucker, and maybe they don't realize that.
	Maybe because I'm very popular and I have a fanatical following, maybe it's easy to forget.
	I'm being charitable here.
	I'm being nice.
	Candace has 7 million followers.
	Tucker has 17 million.
	I just got unbanned on Twitter last May.
	I'm not allowed on YouTube.
	And that's not to play the world's smallest violin for being censored, but it's to say I'm kind of the new kid on the block.
	I just emerged from being censored all this time.
	For them to be calling out this orbital strike on my reputation, saying I'm a Fed and making these accusations, uh, and in private, I mean, I have many people I know saying, oh, I have a mutual friend that's insisting you're a Fed because Tucker said so.
	Like, that's a big problem for me.
	And so that kind of punching down, it's not really cool.
	And it's especially not cool when I don't even have the opportunity to defend myself.
	And I just don't get where all that tough guy stuff goes.
	He calls out Ray Epps, who he accuses of being a Fed to go on his show.
	He calls out Ted Cruz, all these people, but then does a 15-minute drive-by shot on me based on factual inaccuracies.
	And I don't get the right of reply.
	I don't even get uh, you know, an acknowledgement.
	It just stinks like bad faith at that point.
	So that's where I have to really fight back.
	So that's sort of where I am in the whole drama.
	I don't understand these people.
	I don't know them.
	All I have to go by is I know me, I know I'm legit.
	And if they're calling down these strikes on my reputation, I got to question who are they?
	And when I look at them, if they're calling me a CIA agent, it's like, well, that's pretty rich.
	Because we don't have to go in, I don't want to use your platform to attack your friends.
	But for them to use that attack, it's pretty rich.
	Because Joe Kent, who is the subject of all of it, he's a CIA officer.
	So did Tucker not know his dad was in the CIA?
	He doesn't know Joe Kent is in the CIA.
	Yet he knows for a fact that I am.
	How does that work?
	Joe Kent, his close friend and his dad are both in the CIA to his shock and surprise, but he doesn't know me and doesn't watch my show, but he's absolutely certain that I am intelligence.
	Now that's rich and very ironic and also very hard to believe.
	So, you know, it is with a little bit of um, I don't know, uncertainty, I guess, about their motivations.
	It's sort of hard to piece together the narrative, I although I think I did a good job of it.
	So I'm gonna be able to continue.
	And I want to tell you why they think that.
	And I was there.
	I understand.
	I know what happened that day.
	People got hyped up.
	I know the inside baseball because I had one of the big J6 lawyers, Norm Patis, who was for the Proud Boys and others and the Oathkeepers.
	And I know that he was your lawyer as well.
	And people go, oh, they got the same lawyer.
	They're working for the secret group, too.
	So I get the same stuff.
	No, there's only certain lawyers that have balls to actually go in and do this because they try to disbar them and try to put them in jail.
	They put a bunch of Trump lawyers in jail for heaven's sakes.
	But I knew behind the scenes they're saying he's on a no-fi list.
	They didn't seize his bank account.
	They're not subpoenaing him.
	They're not I was getting subpoenaed too.
	You were the deal of the J6 committee.
	I know all that.
	So they don't do that to their operatives.
	You don't have Bill Barr with this new Veritas video, where they got the text messages, the emails, uh threatening uh the uh lady at the PR firm with Armstrong Williams reportedly, and Bill Barr, Trump's former attorney general, running around with Fannie Willis in um Georgia, literally helping her develop the plan to indict Trump for racketeering, which they did, and there you are in the hit list to put in jail on January 6th, and later you're on the hit list.
	So that right there, folks, when you're on a Bill Bar hit list, and that's confirmed, you because he's like right at the top of this thing, former high-level CIA, attorney general twice, uh for uh H.W. Bush, the W Bush, you don't do that.
	And I mean, that is just a fact.
	And so we can get to some of that coming up because I think that's important to get on the record here.
	But but this is the issue, Nick.
	And and and I know you've released the emails, the text messages, all of it.
	We go to the ellipse, and then Trump says march down there, and it's all, hey, people have gone to the Capitol.
	It's fun.
	We don't know what's going on in there.
	You're down the road, you hear what's on the internet, okay.
	Go in the Capitol.
	Okay, people got hyped up, people got excited.
	I saw a lot of other people that went in and did the same thing.
	You didn't go in.
	Now, you can still say, though, all right, he didn't get indicted.
	Well, you you you weren't even at the Capitol, and you didn't go in.
	If you would have been there, I think you might have been.
	But but the point is is that they protected Ray Epps, who's running around for days saying, go in, break in, do all of this.
	And so I think that piece of evidence alone doesn't make you a Fed.
	Then I know the inside baseball because I had the same lawyer, and you've now released all the documents, the stuff that went on, that that that wasn't you know fake.
	And I've had to use lawyers to get undebanked and had to move banks.
	You have to file lawsuits.
	And then people say, oh no, that's how they got control of him and all the rest of it.
	So I've been through this so much internally myself that I know the lay of the land because I was there, and then I experienced it, and then I followed the case, and then I had the same lawyer.
	And so that's that's the reality of all of this.
	But this is the clip uh that you know that has Tucker concerns on a place you can respond.
	British.
	Keep moving towards the Capitol.
	It appears we are taking the Capitol.
	Yeah!
	Keep marching.
	It's over the last.
	It's over the last.
	Yeah!
	Miss T.J. Smithers!
	We have been waiting for the Capitol.
	Bring down the barriers and disregard the police.
	This capital belongs to us.
	Yeah!
	I think they're evacuating the Capitol.
	They're evacuating the Capitol!
	They're evacuating the Capitol!
	The police are evacuating the Capitol!
	Yeah!
	Yeah!
	They're so part of the nation's role for us!
	Throwing out of the people's house!
	And that's exactly how it should be.
	These politicians don't represent us.
	They betray us.
	And now we are forcibly evicting them from the people's house.
	Yeah!
	Yeah!
	They should live in fear of the Americans who are going to be a petal.
	All right.
	So you have to remember the climate at the time.
	Democrats were taking over capitals all the time, having protests, sit-ins.
	They've done it recently in Michigan and Georgia, and it's not called a terror attack.
	And I've seen your your description of what you were saying, and I understand it from the time that we're all angry.
	They've stolen the election.
	That's confirmed.
	You're called there.
	You you you you go there.
	I saw you a few days ago in a clip describe this.
	If you could repeat people that information because I I mean, I believe it, I buy it.
	Yeah, so as you know, um, the January 6th protest, this is something that I almost wasn't even going to attend because at January 6th, it was basically over.
	The whole plan for Stop the Steal, there were all these different deadlines, and the goal was to get the state representatives in the state capitals to take back the power to appoint the electors that would go and make the decision.
	So there were all kinds of deadlines about certifying the election, picking the slate of electors, all these things.
	By January 6th, we knew it was over.
	We knew that probably Mike Pence was not going to do this option where he would not read some of the votes, was one of the that's why Trump had a big problem with him.
	Uh, because the play was that he would decline to read the votes from the states where the result was contested.
	We knew that wasn't going to happen.
	Now, for that reason, I said, I don't even know if I'm gonna go on January 6th to the speech on the ellipse.
	Because that was the event for those that were in the no, January 6th was supposed to just be Trump for the first time, was working with women for America first, stop the steal, all the big organizations that organized the protests.
	For the first time, the White House was collaborating with them to do a big thing.
	And by the way, I can identify all that because I started the event a month before for the date down the road in a smaller area.
	The White House calls, they said, Hey, we want you to run it, because people that don't know they can't use federal funds for that.
	They want to meet work with donors and move to the ellipse and raise like five million dollars.
	I said, I'm not doing that.
	I handed it off uh to the Republicans.
	I said, I'm not involved, I've raised 350,000 from listeners.
	I gave them the money, didn't keep a cent of it.
	That raised from listeners, and I because I didn't want to manage something like this.
	I can't manage a dinner party much less that.
	We weren't gonna have Trump at our event.
	We're just gonna have a rally as we'd had many before the months before.
	One of them had a half million people there.
	So absolutely, I can vouch because I was there for all of this, and I can also vouch that I I said this the first day.
	I don't think Trump was involved, and I'm gonna interrupt you because we integrate this in.
	They wait.
	There's like a million people there.
	Only 30,000 can get in the Kordendolph area at the ellipse.
	They're all over the Washington Monument, everywhere, red hats everywhere.
	I'm sitting there in the front row, it's freezing.
	You were in there too, right over from me.
	And then halfway through, Trump goes, march peacefully to the Capitol.
	The Secret Service opens the gate in front of me.
	I go into the backstage, they take me through, and they open me out on Pennsylvania Avenue and go go lead it.
	And I go go lead it.
	Hundreds of thousands that already marched.
	By the time I get there, it's total bedlam.
	The internet doesn't work, the phones don't work, everything's jammed out.
	There's so many people, and I had no idea what was going on.
	But then I had these special operation guys, former Delta Force guys and people, they're like, well, they're like, it's obviously staged.
	You know, that we got antifa up there because they'd already gotten there right when we're starting.
	They said they said, you know, they ran down to meetings.
	They go, because the phones wouldn't work.
	They go, you got to get down there and tell them not to go in.
	This is a setup.
	So I run, you know, as fast as I can with Achilles down there, get hit with tear gas, trying to stop people going in.
	So sorry to interrupt, I just wanted to give the backstory of that.
	And clearly, I then felt not by Trump, but insiders knew there was a setup working inside the administration, Bill Barr, we now know, who is on the ground and caught organizing it with the Democrats, that we were all set up and we were all told to come there.
	You, the Proud Boys, the Oathkeepers, all of us to be set up.
	I think that's a two plus two equals four.
	Sorry, Nick, go ahead.
	Yeah, and and so my experience on that day is that I showed up in a suit and tie.
	You know, I didn't come in like commando gear because we really thought we're going to this speech, and then that was it.
	That was the speech, and Trump was gonna talk, and then we were all gonna go home.
	I I think we even had an interview plan with you.
	I think I was planning to talk to you.
	We had rented the media roof across from the Capitol, which anybody can pay $5,000 and get, by the way, for the day.
	And so I'm above the Capitol, and I was doing all these interviews.
	And then the left said, indict Jones, he was perched on a building to run the attack.
	No, I'd rented that place three or four times before.
	I was right by CNN and ABC News.
	But absolutely, we we had a we had an interview that night booked.
	Right.
	And so point being is like I didn't have any plans to even be at the Capitol building.
	I was gonna go to the ellipse, watch the speech.
	I had a VIP pass.
	I was literally right behind you.
	And what changed is that as you said, and everyone can confirm this who was there.
	Trump said in the speech, we are gonna go and peacefully make our voices heard outside the Capitol.
	And there was like a rumbling that you and Trump were gonna lead the march, and you left early, and I said, Oh, that's the program.
	I guess we're all going to the Capitol.
	And you're right, the phones weren't working.
	Anyone who's been to a baseball game or a concert knows how that goes.
	When you're in a high density area, the cell doesn't work.
	So we said, okay, uh, well, I guess we're just going to the Capitol.
	So we walked to the Capitol.
	By the time I got there, the barricades surrounding the Capitol complex on the lawn had already been taken down.
	At that point, which had happened earlier in the day, the protesters had already gotten out of the lawn and were on the steps of the building.
	So I arrive at the Capitol, and I'm there with like a group of a half dozen people, fans of mine.
	We're taking pictures, we're hanging out.
	I don't think we ever got closer than 300 feet from the Capitol.
	We were on the lawn, and uh somebody came up to me and said, Oh, you know, you gotta give a speech, you gotta give a speech, because this was the program.
	You and I had done this at all the state capitals.
	I was in Lansing, Atlanta, Harrisburg, Phoenix, DC, and we gave speeches with megaphones at the governor's mansion at the state capital.
	And you speak to the crowd.
	Right.
	We did it in DC.
	We did it at Million MAGA.
	There's pictures, videos.
	So somebody said, Oh, this is an historic day.
	You gotta give a speech.
	I said, Well, find me a megaphone.
	Somebody, some orbiter, you know, some fan of mine zips off, grabs a megaphone, brings it back.
	We look for the highest place, and that statue that you see me on there, that was Peace Circle.
	You can look at a map of the Capitol complex.
	It's 500 feet from the building.
	So, you know, and I think that's a big part of the missing context.
	Just people look at that video, they see the speech, and they imagine maybe I'm like guiding people into the building.
	I was 500 feet away from the building.
	And so when I'm saying, you know, take down the barricades, there were barricades on the lawn, which people were already on top of.
	There were barricades on the lawn in front of the peace circle, which that is what I was referring to.
	And I was saying, because the the idea was this is what the the chatter on the ground was we were going to protest on the lawn until they came back in session and gave Trump the election.
	The idea was this was like a protest.
	So when I said, you know, we're we're gonna hold the Capitol, it was like we're not gonna leave until I said the same thing the week subdued.
	I said, we're gonna peacefully, that was even I think we even had a website, peacefully occupy the lawn until they actually have an investigation in Congress into the election fraud.
	Exactly.
	And and this is how this stuff goes.
	People don't realize when you're in the heat of the moment and there's no plan like that, there's just like this chatter that goes on on the ground, and he get these ideas, and you know, it's like a mob thing.
	And so you're there, and we're saying to ourselves, okay, we're here on the Capitol complex.
	Mike Pence did not do what Trump wanted him to do.
	They shut down the session where they were counting the electoral votes, and we said, Yeah, like we're not gonna leave until they until they, you know, choose Trump in the election.
	That's the basis of the speech on Peace Circle.
	But then we start to get word that the cops are coming in heavy.
	We get word that special forces are coming in, they're throwing tear gas down on the lawn.
	So me and the whole group I was with, we said, let's get out of here.
	And so people like to say, oh, you sent people into the Capitol, but you nothing happened to you.
	Every single person that was with me in that video did not get charged.
	That whole group of people, and by the way, we weren't on restricted grounds.
	The only people that got charged were people that were in the building.
	But but Nick were in the mezzanine.
	And I have the same lawyer, so I I mean, and you've released the documents.
	They did subpoena you.
	They did come after you.
	They they did call you before the Jan 6 committee.
	They they we have Bill Barr.
	We should get to that.
	And I don't want to spend the whole night on that because we got a lot more to hit.
	But I actually have the clips of the whistleblower with the documents.
	You know, you know, Nick's name, my name, uh, General Flynn, how they want to take us down for Jan 6, and then two years later, 2023, because you were still seen as a supporter of Trump then.
	And you know, I already showed this Friday and I already showed this Monday.
	But this is all right here.
	Project Veritas, part two, whistleblower, Bill Barr held secret meetings to plot prosecutions of Trump and block his political comeback.
	But but the bigger story is, and his what they thought was his biggest supporters, and Nick is on that.
	You don't get on the Bill Bar hit list uh if you're Ray Epps.
	Notice Ray Ebbs was not on the list.
	Right.
	Well, and not only that, as you said, I got my bank account frozen.
	I got put on the no fly list.
	It's in the New York Times that they were considering hitting me with charges.
	I got subpoenaed in 22.
	And I mean, maybe the coup de gra is that I testified under oath that I never interviewed with law enforcement, which I did not.
	I never talked to the FBI.
	FBI never came to me, never talked to any law enforcement or intel agency.
	And I mean, look, my bank account got frozen, and this happened without them even telling me.
	Uh eventually, after two weeks, the bank told me who froze the money.
	They gave me the phone number of the lawyers that put the legal hold on the account.
	I sent it to my lawyers immediately.
	My lawyers called the U.S. attorney, and then they said you're under investigation because of this Bitcoin transaction, which I discussed on my show on Monday, and your placement on the Capitol complex.
	Now, when I got subpoenaed a year later, after the money had been frozen and unfrozen, after I got put on the no-fly list and taken off, I testified under oath.
	I never had any contact with federal law enforcement in that way.
	And as you said, I mean, Ray Epps, for all that people say about him, he got charged also.
	Um, so it's like people say, well, you know, nothing happened to you.
	Well, things did happen to me.
	Well, then they say you didn't get charged.
	Okay, but people did get charged and then informed.
	Brandon Stracka got charged and informed.
	Uh Ray Epps allegedly was an informant.
	He got charged too.
	So you have to take it on a case-by-case basis.
	And in my situation, uh, they were interested in me because I was a stop the steal person.
	I think they investigated because they thought I was in the building because of a case of mistaken identity.
	They investigated because of this Bitcoin transaction, which was unusual.
	And I think they came to the conclusion I wasn't in the building.
	The Bitcoin transaction was, although it looked suspicious, it was uh it was benign.
	And then I think ultimately they dropped it.
	And uh, we also had like MSNBC and CNN running images of you and I and others in in different state capitals like Georgia, where we were invited and were peaceful and occupied peacefully, and they show us walking up the stairs, and they would show the look, there they are in the U.S. Capitol on J 6.
	So incredible levels of disinformation.
	Absolutely.
	And in my case, uh a former friend of mine baked Alaska, he was live streaming inside the building.
	There was a screen grab from the stream of some other guy standing behind him.
	And there were posts that went viral saying that that was me.
	We were wearing completely different outfits.
	I was wearing a suit and tie and a long coat.
	This guy was wearing a scarf and a hat and a jacket.
	But people were saying in tweets that got millions and millions of views, that's Nick Fuentes in the Capitol in Nancy Pelosi's office.
	And I I literally went to Mark Randaza.
	I have the contract of a famous defamation lawyer.
	I think I paid him $10,000 to investigate if I could pursue a defamation case against a couple of left-wing journalists against a couple of media outlets that made that claim because I'm sure that was ran up the flagpole to the DOJ and they said, Oh, that's the picture.
	Then that guy got arrested.
	Like that guy was identified and arrested later.
	It was a case of mistaken identity.
	That's why I can clear you.
	I mean, look, I'm not God, but 99%.
	I believe you.
	I was there.
	I know your lawyer.
	I know the inside baseball.
	I know what you went through.
	It was all real.
	I get it.
	People say, oh, they're attacking Jones.
	It's part of the cover.
	It's fake.
	Uh no, it isn't fake.
	It's real.
	So we just spent 40 minutes on this.
	It was very important.
	I I really want to get into the issues we kind of agree on and disagree on in the time we've got.
	So just let me budget out time.
	Nick, how how long?
	Are you good for another hour?
	Absolutely.
	Okay, let's do another hour.
	Okay, but I'm gonna give you the floor right now on the bigger issue.
	Just as a media uh analyst, smart futurist guy, you know, very good at predicting things.
	You predicted Trump would really have big trouble with Israel trying to control administration.
	I don't think they're totally controlled.
	They're certainly trying, so we've got to deal with it.
	I want to get into Iran, how they're trying to get back in there.
	You know, you're from what I've seen, you know, saying Trump does want a police state.
	I disagree, at least so far.
	I want to get into all that with you.
	But what is it, people want to know personally what it's like for you to have everybody pile on to you, which I would have told these people, actually did uh some of them.
	Uh I said, you know, if you think somebody's bad, you you understand doing this is to make them bigger.
	And I and and so I mean, this is this is this has exploded and it's only getting bigger now.
	And I one of the few people that's experienced what you've gone through multiple times, many times, but I I wouldn't even say, well, I've had deplatforming and big blowups that have been as big as this, okay.
	There's not many people other than like a Trump or even a Tucker getting fired at Fox that have had a blow up this big.
	So clearly, I don't think you started this blow up.
	Uh, and I can see both sides of the beefs and everything, but just what is it like for you now?
	And and then just saying you're not Nick Pointes, but you still have your brain, what do you think's gonna come out of this?
	I I think it's the right move, a smart move, a good move, uh, to say, hey, just debate me or have a friendly discussion.
	And I think it needs to happen.
	Um, and I'm talking about Tucker specifically.
	And you know, Elon is a regular listener, and we've had some big long discussions on air.
	Uh, I think you should talk to Elon.
	I think Elon should talk to you.
	He hasn't done these paces in a while.
	They get hundreds of millions of views.
	I don't know why he does it or listeners.
	Well, Twin McTrump got over a billion.
	Um, I think people want open discussion, and we we know they want it, and populism and and and and freedom is the hottest thing.
	Why not take it to the next level?
	Uh and and of course, uh I I'm not somebody that courts raw controversy for no reason.
	I don't go around and they call it infighting, but you know, insert myself in these things.
	I try to be the peacemaker, people I think are overall doing good work, even though they disagree on some things.
	Uh but uh I I I and I know they know this.
	The people that have attacked you, they've been hurt by it.
	You've been helped by it.
	And they're doing good work.
	I would like them, like when Trump 40 days ago came out and said there's no Epstein shut up.
	I said, I've never seen any evidence you really involve anything bad.
	Why are you doing this?
	You need to stop it.
	It really hurt him in the polls.
	Uh so that's my philosophy is targeting the globalists and focusing on them.
	If Republicans are popularists do something bad, I will report it.
	But the Democrats are so much worse.
	I spend 90% of my time on them.
	Trump does this stuff, shove about Epstein, he killed himself, he didn't do anything wrong, he wasn't human trafficking, he had no accomplices.
	There was no blackmail.
	I'm like, do you understand this is the biggest try-send effect ever?
	Day one.
	I got huge backlash from the you know, kind of Israel lobby that says we're MAGA, you're a panicker, the same groups that attacked me when I was, you know, against going to full war with Iran.
	So I could see it was synthetic coordinated attack.
	And then I pull back from that, and you the day one, I said Trump's behind disordered cover-up.
	And then two days later, it's like, yeah, I'm the one.
	Shut up, it doesn't exist.
	Well, I mean, of course I knew that.
	Then I made calls and confirmed it.
	Then I made calls to talk to folks that were in long meetings with him.
	Then I learned a lot of stuff I'm not even allowed to say.
	Uh I I halfway leaked it.
	You know, they stuck his wife in there and other lies, pissed him off.
	They were they knew what they were doing.
	And you can give your own opinion of where you think this is going.
	It subsided some.
	If you'll just stop saying don't talk about it, you know, it it'll it'll probably go away.
	Uh, but I'd like to get to the bottom of it.
	Uh so that's kind of a again, stream of consciousness on that.
	So so take some time here.
	I'm not gonna, I'm trying to interrupt.
	And what is it like personally for you, and then where do you see this going?
	And then do you agree with me that the fact that so many people across the political spectrum in the world are are are really galvanized around you and supporting you.
	That is not just because you're smart and well spoken, all the rest of it, because people piled on you, which is so obvious, and people want the underdog, they can see it.
	I've experienced it myself.
	But this is also a bigger symbol of the total collapse of faith in the system.
	But people that still try to blame both sides and act like they're anti-establishment, but then still kind of go after whoever they see on the leading edge of intellectual resistance, uh, that's just not smart to turn the country and the world around.
	And we want to overcome all this bullying culture and intimidation and just break it.
	And you're doing that, and I'm trying to do that.
	And so it just doesn't seem wise, but it is a big complex amalgamation.
	So I can see how people see you as an easy target, but not in this climate.
	I mean, I mean, obviously, I agree with a lot of what you say.
	I think you're smart.
	I've liked you up on you for eight years.
	Um, and you're a popular guest on my show, and I'm all about good thought and discussion and debate and you know, what the listeners like, uh, I'll give my ideas, you give yours.
	But I mean, I could see years ago, and I told the crew, I said, Nick, why is gonna get bigger and bigger?
	And I said, you know, I'm trying behind the scenes to influence you.
	So I'm saying, hey, you might want to press the gas so much they're gonna kill you.
	But that's not because they're telling me to do that.
	I'm getting money to do it.
	I'm like, you know, flat too close to the sun here.
	But it doesn't matter.
	That's where we are anyways.
	And so it's kind of damn the maneuvers, go straight at him.
	So that's my rant.
	Go ahead, Nick.
	Yeah, I mean, in terms of how it feels, it's a little bit frustrating because I feel like for as long as I've been doing my show, for as long as I've been doing this, and as much as people talk about my motivations or who I really work for, you know, this kind of stuff, all I've ever really wanted is for people to listen to my ideas.
	Uh, is just to listen.
	And what I think really resonated with people when I clapped back on Tucker, it wasn't even so much, I spent three hours talking about the CIA and all this stuff.
	The part that resonated was the very end of the show, where I addressed the personal attacks.
	Because in addition to him insinuating that I work for intelligence or something like that, he said I'm a weird gay kid in a basement from Chicago, I'm a child.
	And in the clip that went viral on TikTok and Twitter, I said, Did you forget when you did that part of your show that you're always pandering to the young white men?
	Isn't that kind of like the lead?
	Isn't that like the story of the past 10 years?
	Is the young white men who have no meaning in their lives, who are struggling to get married, who can't afford a home, who don't feel any allegiance to the country, they don't feel like they're a part of the country.
	There, there's no society, there's no social fabric.
	It's like, did you forget that, you know, those are the people that you purport to care about, that you're trying to win over, you're defending their interests.
	And in the clip, I said, I am that guy.
	Like I'm of that demographic.
	I'm 26 years old.
	I was born in 98.
	I'm Generation Z. I said, and like the turning point students, the chapter leaders, like all these people, I went to a selective school.
	I dropped out.
	I come from a working class family.
	College was very expensive.
	I got canceled because I supported Trump in the 16 election.
	You know, he woke me up.
	Like I went through all these things that they're always talking about.
	I'm facing these challenges.
	They're always talking about.
	You know, anything that you want to say, incel, racist, Trump supporter, like I represent all those different kind of facets of the, you know, disaffected young white male.
	I lived it.
	I am it.
	And so for Tucker to kind of have that tone, and for people like Cannes and Elon to just hit me now with like a new attack.
	For 10 years, it was you're a racist, you're a Nazi, you're this.
	Now for it to be like, oh, you're a fed, you're a basement dweller, you this, it's like, you know, I, as a representative of this generation, am just saying the same thing we all are, which is, you know, listen to us instead of trying to put us in a box and speak for us and say, we're gonna do a show about Klarno, we're gonna do a show about the affordability crisis for homeowners.
	Why don't you listen to the source?
	Um, and you know, with all these different things, he's making accusations about Joe Kent.
	I have a very solid response to that, but they won't listen.
	You know, Tucker says on this hateful, crazy extremist, why do you attack these people?
	I have explanations for this stuff.
	I do a show about it for 10 years.
	And you would think, you know, clearly what I have done, this movement that I've created, it's it has become a phenomenon.
	I think that's inarguable.
	Whether you love it, hate it, whatever you think about it, it is widely talked about, it's become a phenomenon.
	You would think that people would look at this and rather than dismiss it or hand wave it away, they might try to understand it.
	You know, if there's a charismatic guy in the middle of it who is, you know, kind of beaten the odds against the censorship and all this, created this die-hard following, this cult-like following, you would say, what's the appeal?
	What's the basis?
	People coming to your house to kill you.
	We covered it, and almost no one else, when when he got killed by the cops after trying to kill them, he comes with a gun.
	I'm here to kill you at your house while you're on air, and then almost no one even defended you.
	I I thought that was really chicken shit.
	Yeah, I appreciate you saying that.
	You were one of the only people that covered it.
	So God bless you for that.
	Well, why not?
	They're coming after me.
	I'll expect you to, I've told you on the phone, hey, I expect you to defend me too, buddy.
	Yeah, you said bail me out of jail, and that you gotta bail me out, right?
	So it's it's goes both ways.
	But but yeah, so I mean, you know, I'm the subject of all this controversy and and all these different things.
	And you would think that they would just take uh good faith interest and just sort of like a journalist, just kind of jump into the middle of it and say, what is this all about?
	You know, why do these young people gravitate towards him?
	And for 10 years, they just don't get it.
	They're just not listening.
	You know, even Charlie Kirk, who isn't really a part of the latest drama, but Charlie Kirk, you know, he got a caller that called into his radio show, and it was a mother.
	And the mother said, you know, my two young kids, they're really anti-Semitic.
	I think they're following some online personality.
	You know, she's obviously talking about me.
	And Charlie Kirk says, oh, you know, that they're going down a dark path.
	You need to tell them that blaming Israel for your problems is victim culture.
	And I listen to that, and it's like, wow, it's been 10 years and you still don't get it.
	Like you still don't get why people like me.
	You still don't get why people are angry.
	You still don't get it because you're not listening.
	You're not taking it seriously.
	And you almost wonder, you know, when will they take it seriously?
	I think they're taking it seriously now, because I would bet you two bits that when Tucker and Candace did that show and made this dishonorable drive-by gossipy attack.
	I'm sure they talked about it beforehand.
	You know, do you want to cover this?
	Yeah, how are we going to treat it?
	I'm sure when they did this little drive-by attack, they thought that they were going to get away with that.
	They were going to do this little snipe on me, they're going to make me look like a jerk, they're going to humiliate me, and people are going to pile on to me.
	I would bet you two bits, they had no idea the kind of backlash they would get from that clip.
	And you wonder, are you taking it seriously now?
	Now that you see the ferocious reply, not just from me, but on TikTok and from my supporters, are you going to take it seriously now?
	And are you going to listen to what we're saying?
	Because I don't even want to be praised.
	I don't want adulation.
	I don't want the glory.
	I just want people to listen to the arguments.
	And that's really it.
	Um, for as much as people like to talk about my sexuality, people like to talk about my home situation.
	Do I live with my parents?
	People talk about all this, all this stuff.
	It's like I want to talk about the war in Iran.
	Uh as you know, because we cover this together.
	It's like I'm intensely interested.
	And I want to take a break and come back and get into the meat and potatoes now and where we agree, where we disagree.
	But they're mad.
	I'm not talking about Candace and Tucker and all of them, because they're they're trying to stop the war too, and in Ukraine.
	But the system is definitely mad.
	And we did get hit by the Israeli bots, you and I and everybody else, who were just covering it and saying this is crazy.
	And then that is what's weird, then after all of that, which boosted what you're doing, boosted what I'm doing, but I just like you just cover whatever's interesting.
	And I think the truth, that you are just a bellwether of the overall mind of the public.
	And that's where I'm always at is where is the public?
	And I don't then go where the public is, unless what the public is, is where I'm already going, which I pretty much got them there in many cases.
	And so I see someone on guard uh who who is who is having success, and I see all the anti-white, anti-Christian racism that's so intense, and who's running it, the ADL, I'm not a guy that just hates Jews in general, and the person that is a victim and blames them for everything because there's different groups, different things going on, different power blocks.
	But when you have the ADL trying to pass federal laws to arrest people that criticize even Zionists.
	I mean, I played the clips last week.
	I mean, this is tyranny.
	When you've got them already their counterparts passing those laws, uh, but Bene Brith and all them in Europe, this is the model.
	And so the left, with all its tyranny and its love of Islam and all that censorship is bad and has been terrible and done more censorship.
	But now Trump claims he's gonna censorship, but more and more is bringing in the ADL.
	I've got clips of it saying they're basically running this this angle of censorship that's totally unconstitutional here in the United States, and it's and you've got governors in Texas everywhere saying if your city has a resolution against genocide in Gaza, we'll pull all state funds.
	And if you're a contractor with a state for school lunch program or building highways, doesn't matter you've had a 20-year contract, we're canceling it.
	That is a thousand times beyond McCarthy, and even more intense than the left, and is beyond cancel culture.
	It is the social credit score, China literally here.
	So that is a big big problem.
	So I want to talk about that with you.
	Where we agree on that, where you think Trump's going, Iran, they're trying to bring that back.
	And then I disagree overall.
	Uh I don't want to mischaracterize as I haven't had time the last day or so to watch the show, but I saw some of the tweets and statements, you know, where you're like, I don't know.
	Uh before I thought it'd be good to have National Guard deport the illegals, but God, this could be for Israel to enforce on us.
	And but but then I understand constitutionally what he's doing.
	That's why these courts have been upholding ice, upholding the guard stuff, and and I know why Trump's doing it because the Democrats are planning to burn the country down.
	That's in Podessa's own plan.
	So while we're busy focusing on Trump and we're pure and we're making sure he does it all right, and I get it, I do it too.
	Are we ignoring the Democrats that literally already tried to put you and I and everybody else in prison and tried to kill Trump?
	So I want to go to break.
	People can follow him on Rumble at Nick J. Fuentes.
	Uh also on X, follow me at RealOc Shows on XFWars.com forward slash show.
	We also have a scream on Rumble as well.
	And actually tune in, because you know, I get up at 4:35 a.m.
	So I rarely, because usually starts late.
	I do a lot of times once my younger daughter goes to bed.
	I'll I'll sit there sometimes in bed and I'll go, oh, nice intros, nice promos, but I'm like, it's 10 o'clock, it's 10:30.
	And I get that's how he does the show.
	And I'm like, all right, I'm out.
	And then I get up in the morning and get ready, and I'll have it on the background.
	But I I catch a lot of the show.
	I catch the clips.
	I mean, I'm I'm I'm a listener, because he's got witty humor, a lot of it's snarky.
	I've been watching him for years, off and on, and I do the same dark humor.
	I've cut back because I misrepresented it.
	And he'll make some sick joke and they go, I'm just joking, they cut that off, and then they can take eight years of stuff and put a string of it together and misrepresent it.
	And that's what's going on now.
	And there's new attacks on Nick that I'm seeing that are even nastier that I'm not gonna go there.
	And I predicted the Nick a week ago.
	I said, I think that'll be the next attack, and that's where that's going.
	Uh, and so I, you know, if these people aren't being given talking points, and it's just a piling on, uh, then keep saying, meet with me, talk to me, have me on.
	You'll get top ratings.
	What are you scared of?
	I mean, Tucker's, you'll get more views in a in a Nick Fuentes Tucker Carlson debate than the Putin.
	I mean, I I guarantee you, if they had that debate next week, let's say next Thursday here, or where I'd host it, or uh I I guarantee you, 100 million views on X, 50, 100 million on YouTube, uh, Rumble.
	I mean, it'll be every why would people not want to give the public what they want?
	I mean, I'm salivating.
	Here's the deal.
	I'll get ratings if it aligns with the truth, and it helps people.
	I don't do stuff, you know, bite you know the heads off bats to get attention like Ozzy, though I like some of his music.
	My point is, I I I don't I can do stunts all day and and you know and get ratings, but I want ratings tuning in to hardcore awakening information.
	You understand?
	I don't want just ratings.
	I want the ratings on truth.
	And this is the most obvious currently the hottest debate would be Tucker Carlson and and and Nick Fuentes.
	So, you know, I've talked to Tucker here and there, he's really busy, so am I, but I'm gonna call him tomorrow and just say, man, you gotta do this.
	And and if it's not here, wherever, I don't care, I'll be there.
	Uh And I'd like to be on the panel.
	Maybe a God, a four-hour panel discussion, Nick Fuentes, uh, Alex Jones, Tucker Carlson.
	Give them what they want.
	My God.
	And uh, this is where we need to go.
	Not eating ourselves alive.
	I wouldn't even call it infighting.
	I would call it a fratricide.
	Uh, because that's what that is killing killing your own people.
	Uh, and and and so that's where it's at.
	And I uh there's also some fear, you know, out there that, you know, what if Nick is some deep, you know, operative or whatever, because he's you know going after Trump and then and then but but look, Trump's doing it to himself, so you can't blame Nick or me, because I know I'm good.
	I mean, I know I'm calling the shots when I'm freaking out for Trump blowing his feet off and blame me for all the trouble.
	Trump Scott.
	That's bullshit.
	Trump's enemies are my enemies.
	They want to put me in prison.
	I need Trump C. But I will not sell out my values uh or my integrity for it.
	And when I go after Trump, it's to get him back on the straight and arrow.
	I don't throw out the paper with the bathwater.
	You know, Nick's reached that point.
	We'll debate that because I disagree with him on that after the break, right now.
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	I do.
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	you Thank you.
	Want to thank the crew for putting up with me and the great job they do.
	All right, it is 616 central time where I'm at in Texas, where Nick is in Chicago.
	And it is emblematic that we're not in DC or New York or LA.
	We are the outsiders trying to take the country back.
	And I overall think uh Nick is a good actor, a good person, a person that means well.
	Um, and for 26, you know, he's he's uh, you know, force to be reckoned with.
	And I just want to, you know, everybody out there fighting tyranny stay alive and moving the overturn window back to liberty and away from political correctness.
	But we do have something we really disagree with, uh at least from what what I've seen, some of the things you've said recently, though I haven't done a deep dive on it.
	And well, tell us your view on Trump federalizing DC, talking about Chicago, talking about New York, talking about LA, National Guard, rapid reaction force.
	What do you think Trump's doing?
	What's your concern?
	Well, in principle, I agree with it.
	In principle, I love it.
	And I said this on my show last night because Chicago is a dump, New York is a dump, and it's worse.
	It's violent, it's filthy, it's chaotic, and all the rest.
	And under normal circumstances, I would have loved this announcement from Trump that he's moving the police in to take over.
	But the announcement about DC and federalizing law enforcement there, it was accompanied by another announcement about a DOD memo, where they say they're gonna form this new uh it's like a quick response task force made up of 600 National Guardsmen on a rotating basis that'll be stationed in Arizona and Alabama.
	Now, to be fair, this is something that they talked about doing five years ago.
	They talked about doing this in 2020.
	He got 300 National Guard in Arizona, 300 in Alabama, and that way they could rapidly deploy a federalized, like military force into a city in the event of civil unrest.
	I don't think it's a terrible idea by itself, honestly.
	And like I said, it's been around for five years.
	But in principle, my concern with this overall is that right now, we clearly have an occupied government.
	Like that's just not in dispute.
	When you look at what Trump has done with these other departments, at Department of Education, they're breaking the backs of Columbia and Harvard and installing anti-Semitism monitors.
	At State Department, they're revoking citizenship for people that criticize Israel.
	At all these other departments and agencies at FEMA, they're saying we're not gonna do search and rescue for a hurricane if your municipality was involved in the BDS movement.
	And so it's like there's clearly like a pattern here, which is that they're finding ways to use these statutes and regulations and things to benefit a foreign country and this particular people.
	That that is symptomatic of influence.
	So when they say they're going to deploy the National Guard To do a law enforcement role in Chicago, New York, do I think that means that necessarily they're gonna come to New York and arrest everybody that criticized?
	Not necessarily.
	At the same time, I can't cheerlead an expansion of the security state when, as such, that state is being used to support the interest of a foreign power.
	So I when I look at it on an axis of like more government and less government, ideologically, I'm a statist.
	Like from in a vacuum, I'm in favor of a bigger government.
	But when the government is occupied, I have to lean more towards a libertarian, uh, the libertarian side of that axis, the libertarian poll.
	And so that's where I have these mixed feelings about it.
	And I wouldn't necessarily say it's the worst idea, but you do get a little nervous when you see the Palantir being deployed, when you see the National Guard coming out, all this stuff.
	And at the same time, you see every department is putting out a statement about anti-Semitism.
	It's like, okay, how long before this is gonna be used against Nick Fuentes and uh Dan Bilzarian and Jake Shields and these types of people.
	That's always my concern.
	So I'm wondering, I mean, what do you have concerns about that?
	Or do you kind of get where I'm coming from?
	Because on some level, I think we're on the same page that in principle this is a good thing, but uh maybe in practice it might leave something to be desired.
	Obviously, as George Washington said, fire government is like fire, a dangerous servant, a fearful master.
	So clearly, I'm the guy making films, writing books from the Democrats, and also Bush, Father and Jr., were literally trying to train the military and police for gun confiscation martial law.
	That was confirmed.
	So we were really worried about that.
	But it was the military itself that would leak the information to us and say that was wrong.
	So these forces aren't being trained for political enforcement or gun confiscation or any of that, or locking down the Capitol and putting up fences for six months, all the rest of it.
	It's for when the Democrats, under the pedestrian, said if Trump would have won in 2020, they were gonna have blue states secede blue cities, create civil war.
	They produced a movie that came out last year, big budget civil war showing a Trumpian figure with all the minority groups together with the military and a black sergeant, you know, woman executing a Trumpian figure.
	That's their dream.
	They've been planning uprisings.
	Uh, they've been planning this, and now that Trump was able to win, they they've re-implemented this plan.
	So I think towards your point, but disagreeing with the actual motive.
	This isn't just for rounding up the illegal aliens.
	This isn't just for basic riots.
	They know the Democrats are planning some really big stuff.
	And quite frankly, rapid reaction forces of 500, 600 people are nothing.
	All governments of any size have these for civil unrest or outside groups trying to trigger coups.
	And you see all these Democrat judges being overridden by appellate courts saying, oh, Trump's a tyrant.
	He's not allowed to deport people, try the Constitution.
	So people said, oh, how do you know he's not a tyrant, a king?
	Well, I mean, I can read the Constitution.
	I've had lawyers on about it just to double check.
	And of course, that's all been overridden.
	You argue, and I think you're right.
	He could be doing a lot more.
	And it's it's it's anemic, but he was handed a emasculated castrated uh enforcement system.
	So I see drudge that is literally run of the Democrats now, Trump building police state, watch and monitor citizens, widespread discontent among National Guard, Pentagon plans reaction force.
	I don't see it as that.
	But even if he uses it for a good reason as a band-aid for all the crime and the Soros DAs and all the rest of it, then when somebody else comes in later, it's in place.
	And then to your point, I agree with like 30% of what you're.
	I mean, I mean, I see the concern, but for the way it's being deployed, I know why Trump's doing it.
	He has for 10,000 National Guard for January 6th.
	He could have overridden uh the mayor Bowser.
	He could have overridden Millie, who threatened to resign.
	He didn't because they were setting him up.
	So I don't see it from Trump that perspective.
	He's the guy letting nonviolent offenders out of prison and stuff, even more than Democrats.
	I see it as him trying to warm the Military up and get the public ready for the globalists to try to trigger a civil war, which they say they will do.
	But one headline in Drudge is true in that they are watching the citizens.
	And I've not defended Palantir.
	I've explained Microsoft, Google, um, and of course, Amazon, when you look at government funding, have thousands of percent more money from the government currently than Palantir to surveil, to spy 15 years ago, Alexa, let's stay in your house.
	You know, uh Bezos running the CIA servers along with Microsoft.
	Now Palantir's coming in, as they said they would, to offer Trump a system to try to watch all of that and give him control, like one ring to rule them all.
	So I'm not defending Alex Carp.
	Very troubling, you know, in at EU summits.
	I helped target and surreal everybody across Europe and Germany and the UK and put them in jail for their right-wing speech.
	Uh, you know, I my biggest fear is a Christian nationalist throwing me out of a window.
	So he's definitely got his heart on for Christians.
	Uh, you know, he's definitely got that classic ADL uh bent to him.
	Uh you but you see Teal over there backing Trump and other things, and I know his background, obviously, in Qtel and Poindexter and all that you've covered lately.
	Everybody's well, I'm not taking your thunder away, you've done a great job presenting it, but that's that's old news.
	I'm glad people are discovering it now.
	But that's all true.
	My issue is I just see them as a rival group trying to come in and get control.
	And the idea that they're gonna put us under a police state, they're gonna put us under a surveillance state, it's already there.
	I want to dismantle the whole thing.
	And then my focus is let's focus on CARP part of the time.
	Let's also focus on Eric Schmidt of Alphabet.
	Let's focus on those guys too, so people get the wide-ranging view.
	But it is true that all of these systems they're bringing in can be turned on the on the people.
	And it is true that Palantir has this big enemy list, so why don't you speak to that?
	I guess I would just say in general, when you say the globalists are coming after Trump, I almost don't know who you're talking about anymore because who attended Trump's inauguration?
	It was Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk.
	It was all the big tech and little tech people.
	Uh, I saw a clip from CNN the other day, and a presenter on CNN said Trump is brilliant.
	He's a mastermind.
	And what were they talking about?
	His cover-up of the Epstein files.
	So it's like CNN and the New York Times.
	It's like room service journalism for Trump.
	You know, in the middle of this giant scandal, he's walking on the roof, and they're saying, Mr. President, why are you on the roof today?
	Like, who's even resisting Trump anymore?
	Silicon Valley and Wall Street are in bed with Trump.
	The Democrats have no resistance.
	The law enforcement, Little Tech, you know, these up and comers like uh OpenAI, Palantir, um, Andrew, these guys are all behind Trump.
	So I just kind of look at the whole situation.
	I survey the whole landscape and I say, I just don't see the resistance.
	I don't see Trump anymore as a figure that is actually against the globalists.
	That's a big reason why I turned on him.
	He's supporting the war in Gaza.
	He's clearly unwilling to restrain Israel.
	He's in bed with Little Tech and Big Tech in Silicon Valley, and JD Vance is the nexus for that.
	He cut the corporate tax rate and won't deport the illegal laborers on behalf of Wall Street.
	You know, he's trying to get Jerome Powell to cut the interest rates to charge up the economy.
	It's like so I see him basically as part of the system.
	So when he's bringing these troops out there because of the Democrats, it's like I think in reality the uh National Guards being deployed because there's gonna be a second Iran war, and when there is, there's gonna be protests.
	And I think that's the real reason they're being sent out there.
	No different than how they shut down Columbia and now they have like an anti-riot security presence over there.
	They ban pro-Palestine protest on these Ivy Lake campuses.
	They're sort of employing the same thing in the major cities.
	So I guess me as as a former Trump supporter, I was there in 16, as you know, I was there in 20.
	I was up there right up until roughly 2022.
	I just don't see him as an opponent of the system.
	I see him as basically part and parcel of the system at this point.
	Well, you know, I think that's a valid concern, and I'm not totally disagreeing with you.
	But just because people go to his inauguration, Just because Bill Gates acts friendly, but behind the scenes is fighting Trump, doesn't mean they're on board.
	These are a bunch of snakes.
	That said, there is a lot of capitulation to Trump because populism is rising all over the world.
	He's seen as the figurehead.
	He's having a lot of success.
	And so I do see that.
	But if we're going to take the government over, at some point, these institutions will be taking over.
	I'm not endorsing all that's going on.
	I'm saying it's a paradox.
	But guys, go to Nick Fuentes' uh X. He doesn't do a lot of posting there, so it'll be easy to find.
	I saw the club.
	I actually had it on the list today that I had to go to an emergency court hearing.
	Uh, but it it's it's the it's not all of CNN's doing it, but this particular host, you know, is a big Trump supporter.
	Most of what he shows is true.
	But he is sitting there going, it's wonderful.
	Anderson Epstein has plunged.
	Trump, Trump is a genius.
	This is amazing.
	And again, the optics of that are well, if you're not involved in it, why the hell is it good that Hendris is plunging?
	So, Nick.
	Let's talk about Epstein.
	Because this has been bizarre the last 40 days.
	And I actually don't see interest in it subsiding.
	I don't think it's peaking like it was a few weeks ago, but this is a smoldering fire.
	What do you think is happening here?
	Well, I think that when Congress comes back, they're gonna be calling more attention to it.
	I it does seem to be the case that the public has largely moved on.
	And we talked a little bit about this.
	It's like any news story.
	You give it a couple weeks, and no matter what it is, people are gonna talk about something else.
	And with the internet, these things move very quickly.
	But that clip, it's almost like from a movie.
	It's almost like a parody.
	You have and look, the guy is Jewish.
	You have a Jewish presenter on CNN saying, all-time low, 89% drop in interest in the Jeffrey Epstein cover up.
	Trump did it again.
	He's a genius.
	He covered up the Epstein files.
	And it's like, is this real?
	Is this like an AI creation?
	Is this a Gemini creation?
	The idea that you know, you would show that to a Trump supporter seven years ago, eight years ago.
	It would almost be hard to believe that it's real, that that's a real clip.
	And you think about the way it was in 2016.
	It was like 9-11 every day.
	I mean, you remember you were there, you had him on your show.
	You're you're like the veteran of 2016.
	In 2016, we were being punished every single day.
	They were apoplectic.
	It was like Trump getting elected was like uh the Holocaust.
	It was like they said the worst thing that happened to America since 9-11 or Pearl Harbor.
	And now it just feels like this cakewalk.
	And that's the paradox is we've been through so much to support Trump.
	He's doing a lot of good.
	And you can say, well, the CNN guy, this is like bad satire.
	Like you said, when I saw it, I saw it myself on another feed that I saw on your on your feed a couple days ago.
	And I I watched it like three times.
	I'm like, this isn't even real.
	Does this guy even even understand what he's saying?
	And this is supposedly a Trump supporter.
	He's a genius.
	Look at how his cover-up has worked.
	And I'm sitting there like I'm almost being involved in a conspiracy.
	If I was a Trump supporter, which I am overall still, and I went, yeah, great.
	He's really done that.
	When he's the one that came out 40 days ago and said, Shut up, you're not my supporter.
	I don't want your support.
	He didn't, you know, commits he committed suicide and all this.
	It was so insulting.
	And then again, last week he did it again, saying it's all a big hoax.
	After he said, okay, release the information.
	I mean, this is just crazy.
	So what is Trump thinking?
	Here is one of the most bizarre clips ever from CNN a few days ago.
	Now I would say that this is from at least a political uh point of view quickly turning into a dud of a story.
	What am I talking about here?
	Which is wild.
	Which is wild.
	This has been for three weeks.
	Exactly.
	Take a look here.
	Google searches for Epstein down 89% versus just three weeks ago, falling through the floor.
	It is no longer the top term searched alongside Donald Trump's name.
	That's been trading off between Tarot and Vladimir Putin, with obviously the meeting coming up later this week.
	But at this particular point, the American people's interest in this story, it's quickly becoming something of a nothing burger.
	So out of sight, out of mind, maybe is applying here a Little bit, but has it impacted?
	Have you seen numbers that have impact this has impacted Trump's popularity favorability?
	Anything?
	No, not really.
	I mean, take a look here.
	Let's take a look at the overall numbers.
	Trump's approval rating.
	In July of 2025, it was 45%.
	It's still well within that margin of error here at 44%.
	And you compare that to where he was in his first term at this point.
	He was at 37%.
	So he's seven points higher, very much in a different political universe, now significantly higher in terms of his overall approval rating than he was at this point in his first term.
	And more than that among Republicans, his approval rating is near a record high, covering right at about that 90% mark.
	So no, he hasn't lost any of that base.
	And when it comes to that center of the electorate, he's basically holding on there.
	And his overall approval rating 44% is pretty gosh darn good for him, considering where he was at this point in term number one.
	What do you think is behind it?
	Why there hasn't been more movement?
	Yeah, why hasn't the but hasn't there been more movement?
	I think this is pretty simple.
	Take a look here.
	Nation's top issue is the Epstein case.
	This is the number of respondents.
	This isn't the percentage of response, this is the number of respondents.
	And our last CNN poll, look at this.
	Zero respondents said that the Epstein case was the top issue.
	How about among independents?
	Zero independence in that.
	And among Republicans, and therefore overall, just a single one.
	So yes, there used to be a lot of interest in this story, but the bottom line is that even amongst those who had high interest in this story, it wasn't something that they thought was all that important.
	And as I said at the beginning, the interest in this story has fallen off the table.
	Which also, when you look at this and you compare it to just the attention that Capitol Hill was giving it.
	Donald Trump supporters were giving it, congressional committees were giving it.
	It is incongruous.
	I would just say this.
	Donald Trump has some of the best political instincts of any politician I've seen on this particular issue.
	You see it full well and clear because he has been saying, you know what, this is not an issue, and it turns out that the a lot of the American public actually seem to agree with him.
	Wow, so uh Bill Clinton and Bill Gates, the head of Harbor, and all of them immediately with those kids and the and the prince over in the UK, just this is great instincts.
	Let's just uh totally do the 180 and just shove about it.
	Then you ask what's coming next.
	And so I've seen you be critical of Elon, though he's done a great job on X with free speech overall.
	But I talked to people that were in the meetings.
	That was a real split.
	And he came out before all this happened three months ago, four months ago.
	So this Epstein thing's gonna be a big deal.
	It's gonna be covered up.
	And then I was told by people in the White House, yeah, it's because the CIA and Massad are involved.
	They asked Trump to national security.
	But then why would he come out in Stri's hand affect all of this?
	Uh, Nick, because th this is wishful thinking.
	Anything big peaks and then subsides, and then comes back as an even bigger wave.
	And it's not a prediction, it's a guarantee.
	The Republicans have already said, Yeah, we want everything subpoenaed, including from the Democrats and the DOJ.
	So uh they're seeing in hoping, nothing to see here, like the naked gun, nothing to see here.
	Uh uh, that's not gonna happen, Nick.
	I love that guy's accent.
	I love the presenter's accent.
	It's very interesting.
	He's like celebrating, he's like, look, no one cares about Epstein with this like interesting little accent there.
	As far as the teeth, I've seen the guy a lot.
	He's not normal that excited.
	He looks like he's having orgasm here.
	He's like, I'm surprised he didn't spike a football.
	He was claw, he was spiking a dreidel, I think, says something like that.
	Spiking something that's a little on the nose.
	But um, what's interesting about the Elon connection, which is super important, and you know, you brought this up because you're super per um perceptive on this stuff.
	Everybody forgets that Elon Musk brought this up back in June and said that Trump is not gonna release the Epstein files because he's in them.
	And I wasn't the only one.
	You did, and I also said I wasn't the only one that noticed that he also had a black eye when he said that.
	He's in the Oval Office for the last time with a giant black eye, which Trump even made a mention of.
	Trump said on Twitter, or he said it, I think to the press, he said, I offered him makeup, he turned it down because he wanted everybody to see his black eye.
	So they're drawing attention to this.
	This was the last meeting.
	Now, shortly after the last meeting, as you said, it was a real split.
	And Elon puts out this tweet, it's like a nuclear bomb.
	Trump is in the files.
	What happens a week later?
	Israel starts a war with Iran.
	The war goes on for two weeks, the war ends.
	Netanyahu comes to the White House to celebrate on July 7th, 7-7.
	The day before, the DOJ pushes the memo, burying the Epstein files.
	And so it's like this weird bookend.
	Now there's some new information on this.
	There's this weird bookend where you have the Epstein scandal starts a week before the war.
	And, or I suppose, you know, they kind of spike this with Elon Musk's comment before the war.
	And then they initiate this next round of it when the DOJ buries it with the memo when Netanyahu comes to the White House to finish the whole thing with their celebration about the Iran war.
	There was a piece in the Times of Israel last week where a rabbi in Israel said, and this is an unsubstantiated claim, but it is interesting.
	It was published in Israeli media.
	They said that the Israelis, of course, were not happy with Trump because Trump bombed Iran just once.
	He bombed Ford O, he bombed Natans and Isfahan, and he did not destroy the stockpile of enriched uranium.
	Now, the Israelis expected that they could draw the United States in to hit Iran many times to not just destroy one or some of the facilities and partially damage others, but that they would attack Iran's energy infrastructure, their conventional assets, like their missile launch platforms, their government buildings, things like that.
	Israel was not happy that the United States did this limited strike and then called off the whole war.
	Oh, restrained Israel.
	Israel wanted full regime change.
	I mean, they they called for it.
	Absolutely.
	It was in foreign policy magazine just yesterday.
	And they were calling for it the whole time.
	And the point is they were disappointed that Trump didn't deliver.
	They were mad then Trump did not do it.
	Now, there was this rabbi from the Times of Israel who said the reason the Epstein scandal happened is was a punishment against Trump for not taking it all the way.
	And you almost wonder, because of course, you know, the Epstein scandal, it does have a lot to do with Israel.
	Pam Bondi, who is the attorney general, she is a super Zionist.
	You know, that is something that was claimed without any evidence.
	But you almost wonder is this being deployed as like a political football?
	Is this being deployed in a certain way to hurt the Trump administration?
	Because, like you said, you have called a lot of attention to the strangeness of how it's being handled, how the White House has kind of been fumbling this, how they've really, it's almost like they're trying to make it worse for themselves.
	And so you wonder if there's some connection going on, because for me, all eyes are always on Iran.
	They want us to fight this war, a war that they know that we do not want to fight.
	Like there's no public support for a protracted Middle Eastern conflict.
	Donald Trump himself has no appetite for such a war.
	And so it's like, how do you get America with all these timelines in mind?
	The snapback sanctions, the midterms, Iran rearming themselves, the breakout timeline for a nuclear bomb is like, how do you get America into a war quickly?
	And it happens coincidentally with this Epstein scandal.
	I can't shake the feeling that they're related in some way.
	Now, maybe that's crazy, but I feel like there's something to do with that.
	And then to see it in the times of Israel reported over there, it was just a little bit too on the nose.
	It was a little freaky.
	I mean, obviously, Israel wants us to go to floor with Iran.
	This was just phase one.
	Where do you see that going?
	And why do you gut level it?
	You make the joke, I say that was true.
	Think Trump did the perfect stry-zan effect.
	He can't be that stupid.
	Why did he act like that?
	I think he just made a mistake.
	I think if anybody fumbled that it was the Department of Justice.
	I think that Trump, he hates it.
	You could tell.
	He's angry.
	Like you could see it in his face.
	When Elon Musk put out that tweet, I think it was back in June or May, when Trump was asked about it at a luncheon about an hour later, you could read it.
	I mean, this guy does not have a poker face.
	He was livid.
	He was seething.
	And I think he still is.
	Every time it's brought up, like he cannot handle this.
	So I don't think it's necessarily Trump that is stry-sand affecting this.
	I think it might be the administration.
	It might be elements inside the government.
	I think that somebody spiked it and now they don't know how to deal with it.
	Or maybe Trump knows that there's uh something in there that's going to be problematic for him in some way.
	Obviously, there is, because he ordered the FBI To look through the files.
	They told him that they found his name all over the files.
	We don't know what's in them.
	So it's hard to say exactly why, you know, the psychology of Trump, what's happening inside of his head.
	I think that's organic.
	I think that's just his real reaction.
	I think gut level, the big play is they want to go back into Iran.
	Uh, this has been reported widely.
	The clouds are gathering all over again.
	The snapback sanction deadline is at the end of August.
	I think Israel is gonna go back into Iran.
	And I think they expect that the United States is gonna come in heavy and it's gonna be a major war.
	That that's kind of where I see this going.
	And uh maybe getting rid of the extra.
	I think with you, Nick.
	So I got you on here to debate you on the on the on the police state marshal law thing, but then I actually heard what you had to say.
	Uh overall agree with you.
	Um, but that's all my intel.
	And I predicted this.
	I said they're gonna say Melania was a hooker for Epstein, which they already recycled eight years ago, and they're gonna put in the Jane Dows that were fake.
	Trump got pissed because he'd already made a deal with the CIA Mashad to just kind of shelve it.
	They still came back and stung him in the ass with it.
	He throws a fit about it, because that's the deal he's got, which I'm not agreeing with that deal.
	People go, Jones agrees with Trump making that deal.
	Look, I'm in a red in on it.
	Okay, let's just say people close to president.
	There's so many public officials, so much big stuff.
	It would bring down the stock market, he believes.
	I'm not saying that's the right way to go.
	I said they're gonna stab me in the back.
	Then it turns out they put his wife in there.
	Now they admit it isn't true.
	Now she's gonna sue him for a million bucks.
	Hunter Biden, you can see this.
	And again, folks, Trump's 79.
	He's very smart many ways, has some good instincts, but he's super busy 20 hours a day.
	They just hand him stuff.
	Kyle Serafin's a big FBI whistleblower.
	He gets proven right all the time.
	Most 99% of the time.
	He said four or five months ago they were all raiding the FBI and you know, New York for not giving up the documents.
	The feds are raiding the feds.
	He said, You're not getting it.
	And it's a cover-up.
	And he said, and now they got the PR people are the same people that were there before.
	They're gonna tell the DOJ what to do.
	They just go to press conference and PR function and dinner after dinner.
	They're just titular heads, Bongino, Patel, Bondi, literally just Fox News hosts.
	And they're setting them up with stuff with this Epstein file, saying it's all there and it's all gonna be BS on Trump.
	He literally called it all, and now they just took that giant trap.
	And so people, the Q people, God love them.
	You know, I know JFK Jr., he's really the president and Hillary's in Gitmo.
	They they're having a big problem now, but they just get more delusional.
	And they literally think Trump has like a 5,000 IQ.
	Like there's there's Trump, Q, and then God.
	Okay, like God's junior to them.
	Um, and I wonder what it's like when they go to Dealy Plaza three years ago or four years ago and you know, JFK Jr. doesn't show up and they just, you know, oh, there's indictments, everybody's in Git Mo.
	And that's a whole other subject.
	I said there wouldn't be an indictments, the first administration.
	I've heard from high level, and so is Matt Tabby and others.
	They said, no, we've been told we've got to, even if the cases don't stick, though they have a lot of evidence.
	We our our constituents demand it, which I totally agree with.
	So that's a whole nother subject.
	You want to speak to that?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	I mean, as far as the uh, you know, the Q stuff is concerned.
	I mean, do these people, I feel sorry for them.
	It's gonna wind up like Heaven's Gate or something like that.
	You know, I mean, it's pretty terrifying.
	I've seen it on Twitter.
	I get it all the time, the five-dimensional chess and all that.
	I think that the big concern as far as the Epstein files are concerned is that there might be an impeachment.
	I think that they're playing on this because the Democrats are pushing so hard for a disclosure.
	They're coming back from the summer recess very soon.
	Like you said, they're gonna subpoena all the records, they're keeping the pressure up.
	And you almost wonder if they're hanging it over his head for a potential impeachment when they lose the midterms in 2026.
	It's almost a given that the Democrats are gonna take the House after the midterms.
	It's uh very rare that the Republicans or rather the incumbent party gain seats in the House.
	I think it's only happened once or twice in the last 80 years.
	So the Republicans with a two or three seat majority, they're almost certainly gonna lose the house.
	And then you think about the map inside the Senate.
	And you can find three or four Republicans that would impeach Trump.
	So between a Democrat House, you're gonna get maybe a few defectors in the Senate.
	There's like A real risk.
	And it reminds me a lot of what happened after January 6th, which is that after January 6th, Mitch McConnell was using impeachment, holding that over Trump's head to prevent him from doing something extreme.
	Everybody was worried that in that time, between J6 and J20th in 2021, you know, Trump is this lame duck.
	He's not accepting the results of the election.
	People worried he was going to do something radical.
	So Mitch McConnell said, there was, of course, the impeachment in the House.
	He said, I will let the vote go forward if you don't play ball.
	And I feel like that's how they've kind of been controlling him in some sense.
	To the extent that I think that Trump might have good intentions or might want the best for the country.
	To the extent that we can still believe that, you have to look at him as somebody who is under such immense pressure, and really inside of a trap in the interregnum with all these charges from the DOJ, Georgia, and New York.
	And now in this second term, it's almost like double jeopardy now with the Jeffrey Epstein stuff.
	So you have to think that's in the back of his mind.
	You have to think that that's what people in the White House are thinking.
	Certainly the Democrats cannot wait to impeach him when they come back and take the majority, you know, with this no kings stuff that they're doing all the time.
	Uh they're probably gonna impeach him a hundred times when they get back.
	So I think that is maybe the protracted long-term play on the whole Epstein thing.
	If I were to, if I were to take a guess, I think that's what Trump is concerned about.
	I think that's the Democrats' angle.
	And he got to wonder then, who does Trump have to answer to to prevent that from happening?
	And who runs the GOP in the Senate?
	It's uh pretty obvious who's running the show over there.
	They signed a letter a couple months ago saying Iran can never have enrichment.
	That gives you pretty good idea of maybe what the ask is to forestall some kind of attack.
	So that that's kind of my instinct on all that stuff.
	Maybe that's out there, maybe that's outlandish, but just kind of paying attention how this is.
	I don't think it's outlandish.
	And what's crazy is I've said the Epstein one of the first people to recover it.
	It's mainly Democrats and a corporate blackmail money laundering operation.
	Trump would never go to Russia get pissed on.
	It came out as fake.
	He he does he doesn't join the cult, he takes the cult over.
	Okay.
	You know, he wants to be the you know, apex guy.
	I don't mean that in a bad way.
	And I know I know the inside baseball, he never did any of this stuff.
	So him doing this, you know, he just said yesterday, I'm meeting Putin in Russia in Alaska.
	And and folks, I at 51, occasionally when I'm exhausted or tired and push too hard, like a few weeks ago with Nick, got up at 4:30, worked all day, hard workout, did a bunch of shows, went home, hung about the family.
	They got pizza and and wings, and I'm on a diet most of time, but I pigged out, and people are like, he's drunk.
	No, I was literally falling asleep because it was like a late night, you know, 10 o'clock at night, I was gone.
	Folks, Trump does interviews at 2 a.m. now, okay?
	He sleeps three or four hours.
	All right.
	And and so at 79, yeah, he goes and plays golf.
	A lot of time he's really smart, but he goes in and out of gear.
	And um, we're seeing more and more of it.
	And I don't say this like the Democrats under mine.
	They said this eight years ago, it wasn't true.
	For you know, for back then '75, it was 73.
	Incredible stamina.
	Got great Scottish and German genes.
	But I'm telling you, folks, let's not lie.
	He's 79, his legs are swollen, his ankles are swollen, his hands are swollen.
	The guy's a bull, and they can't get him to stop working.
	They come and brief him, oh, sir, there's a missile fired at 2 a.m.
	And he's on most of the time, but he's having to delegate to everybody.
	And so I'm not here being an apologist for Trump.
	All I know how to do is tell you from my research and what I see what's happening.
	And that's the final thing, Nick, and anything else you want to say, and I appreciate the time.
	It's been an interesting discussion and debate.
	How do you quantify or how do you do this?
	Because I'm not a lesser two evils guy, but also if I'm in one ship that's only got a small leak, and the other ship's sinking, I'm gonna stay in the ship that's got a slow leak and isn't sunk yet, I get to land in.
	So I see the Democrats want to put us all in jail.
	They're open pedophiles or open devil worshippers, they're openly trying to bankrupt things.
	They're pure evil, they're part of the globalist operation.
	Sure, they see Trump winning, so some of them are acting nice to his face, but he's fundamentally changing a lot of their systems and You know, Bitcoin in the National Reserve and 401ks.
	And, you know, uh, just he goes on and on and on and on and overriding these federal judges and dominating them and getting a lot better appointments in.
	And it would take hours to talk about the good.
	I mean, it's 90 plus percent.
	And I understand there's been some betrayals of the direction starting to go the wrong way.
	So if it keeps going that way, you know, it gets bad.
	But but how do you separate that?
	Because listen, I had people, not as coming to me, you're talking about Nick Fuentes and you know, all the stuff's going on.
	That happens a lot too.
	But the other thing I get is I get it.
	I was at Barton Springs twice this weekend because my eight-year-old daughter wanted to go twice.
	I don't go very often, but we we want Saturday, she loves going back Sunday.
	And I was mob, shaking hands, young, old black, white.
	But I had like five people come over and go, when are we gonna get indictments?
	When are we gonna get this up?
	Well, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	And I'm like, hey, whoa.
	They were like, I'm not in charge.
	And I get it, you know, like I said on the street everywhere.
	I able to see the newsmax reporters and stuff saying, hey, we're getting mobbed by people, you know, demanding this stuff.
	So, so I want to try to like stop the Democrats, block them 100%, try to get good Republicans like Marjorie Taylor Green and others in, build our beachhead, support Trump where he's doing good, try to put pressure on the administration and expose bad actors where we can.
	We where we've already had a lot of effect.
	We know it has an effect.
	To me, taking the ball and going home, I'm not saying you've done that, but saying I'm done with Trump two years ago, you warned of the Israel thing.
	You were right about that.
	I get that.
	Isn't it when it's the only thing we got?
	You know, try to then even more jump on it to like try to get it to do what we want.
	I mean, uh, it's it's threading the needle there, but do you get where I'm going?
	Yeah, I I totally understand what you're saying.
	And I think I used to be more of that mindset in the very beginning in like 2017, 2018.
	But look, it's been 10 years.
	You know, Trump came down the escalator 10 years ago.
	And I look at where we are now in the White House, and it's like, look, they backed down on the deportations in February.
	In February, they said it's not gonna be mass deportations.
	And and by the way, I know you are 100% right.
	When you say ICE does not have the personnel, that is a fact.
	They do not have the personnel.
	They do not have the infrastructure, the funds.
	They're spinning it up.
	It takes time.
	I get all that.
	You're 100% right.
	But from the top, in February, they said, we're not going after the farm workers.
	We're not going after the construction workers, because that's gonna hurt the economy.
	And the situation with Iran.
	We go from we're not gonna get involved to we are to we're bombing them to, well, we're gonna support regime change, maybe if it comes from the bottom up.
	And it's like here we are 10 years later, and NATO has gotten stronger.
	You know, NATO's spending more money.
	We're bombing Iran.
	Greater Israel is literally within sight.
	They're annexing Gaza and the West Bank.
	You have the Epstein files being covered up.
	There's no accountability for the Democrats for Clinton, Obama.
	There's no hearings, there's no charges or no, there's no nothing.
	And so it's like 10 years later, you got to say, look, this is not the revolution that was promised.
	This is not the accountability, the anti-corruption, the make America great again.
	We didn't get we're promised.
	Now, there's kind of like two things that we can conclude from that.
	In the first place, we have to express our dissatisfaction.
	I am not of the mind that it is helping anything to be on Twitter like, and I'm not saying this is you, but other people say no matter what Trump does, we have to support it.
	You have been critical when it matters.
	There are so many people that say, no, no, just trust the plan.
	It's all gonna work out.
	No, at the minimum, we have to express our dissatisfaction.
	If Trump will ever deliver anything good, it is because he needs to please his base.
	He needs to please his base to win elections, to win the midterms, to have political capital.
	So at the minimum, we need to charge him for that and say, if you want our support, you gotta make us happy.
	That's one.
	But two, this is maybe the more radical side of me, says, I feel like even the idea that we're in this game where we're fighting for the personnel and you know, we're on Twitter.
	Please, Trump, don't do this, please, Trump, do that.
	It feels like we're on a hamster wheel.
	It feels like a big diversion.
	It feels like We're negotiating with ourselves.
	And we're sort of saying to ourselves, oh, you know, we're in this fight, we're uh we're fighting this uphill battle.
	But it's like, let's be honest.
	Trump has cocked out every time it has mattered.
	In the first term, we didn't get a wall, so we got 10 million illegals four years later.
	In the first term, Trump made the vaccine, and then we got the vaccine mandate.
	It's like this stuff keeps happening.
	And and my kind of game theory is to say doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is insane.
	You know, if we keep doing these things and the chance of them succeeding is zero, let's just try something else.
	That's why I have always been a proponent of saying, let's just stay home.
	Let's have a protest candidate.
	Let's run somebody like yeah.
	Let me stop.
	Let's run somebody stop here right there, and I want you to finish up and elaborate.
	I just want to say I totally agree with you.
	And and let's talk about this briefly.
	We really saw this because I've I've been online a long time.
	I can tell the groups, I can go check it.
	We know we had groups checked what I already thought was true.
	We had big Pentagon bot farms, Israeli bot farms, neocon right-wing bot farms, and then the Ben Shapiro's and the Mark Levin's and all the usual suspects come out instantly when Israel was cranking up to you know,
	try to drag us into war with Iran a few months ago, and say you're not real MAGA, you're imposters, and you're pro-Islam, and you're really leftist, and I immediately saw them flag all our accounts.
	I saw our traffic get driven down, which bounced back up because people saw through it, and I saw the attack calling me and you and everybody else these traitors.
	And they can say, oh, Foyne says it's really a liberal.
	Foyne doesn't really see IA.
	I don't believe that, but I can tell you this.
	This guy 100% isn't.
	Because I know me.
	I know my mama and daddy.
	Okay, and yeah, and so the same people doing that to him were doing it to me.
	I'm not talking about Tucker and people now.
	That's why it was weird to have them come in later.
	This was the bad guys.
	And Trump, don't be a panicin and all this stuff.
	Hey, buddy, we're holding your feet to the firing.
	We are we are demanding, we are telling you what to do in.
	We are in a charging, not a panicking.
	We brought you in.
	Populism is happening all over the world, 1776 worldwide.
	And I said many times they would say, you're a panicking.
	You're a fake Trump supporter.
	I'm like, listen, I'm not make America great again, bitch.
	I supported that idea and that movement.
	I am 1776 against the tyrants.
	I am revolution against tyranny.
	I am freedom here and worldwide.
	I am America.
	All right.
	And I've been on there 31 years, and we are credited by the sociologists and the mainstream Democrats in the textbooks.
	That's why they hate me.
	Ron Paul and Alex Jones, our listeners and viewers, we're just focaling, went in and took over Dick Army's Tea Party in the late 90s, okay?
	It happened.
	We took it over.
	A third of the people at Trump's uh event there in Cleveland when he got the nomination 2016, we're wearing my shirts, the media saw it, they finally freaked out.
	They finally recognized, oh my God, this is powerful and grassroots.
	Then they came after me.
	The knives came out, just like they finally figured out.
	Oh, we can't just call Nick, you know, a Hitler or or a gay kid.
	That doesn't work, so now let's destroy him.
	They went, whoa.
	When they went there and had airplanes flying around with Hillary's a rapist and you know, big vans with TVs flashing it, and a third of people, 100,000 people wearing my shirt.
	They went into war mode because they were still so arrogant up in their towers, some of the Democrats.
	So the fight is about taking control of the Republican Party, keeping control of the Republican Party.
	And that's what I'm saying is I was never make America great again.
	We helped create the launch pad for it, and I want to make America great again, but I want to make America free again.
	I want to stop the globalist tyranny.
	I want 1776 worldwide, which is happening.
	And so MAGA is some little thing.
	It's not like I'm some guy in junior high that wants to be in the cool kid class and I run for school president and I'm kissing everybody's ass and going to Toastmasters so I know how to properly fold a napkin.
	I'm here to wreck the globalist.
	I'm here to deliver war on their ass with the truth.
	I am here to overturn them.
	I am here to politically nonviolently burn them down.
	And so I get where you're coming from, Nick, to be to be pro-Trump, get in the system, have them persecute you, kick you out because you wouldn't submit to Israel worship.
	To me, it's the same thing.
	You try to make me engage in Trump worship, it triggers me.
	I just want to be careful that I don't get too emotional over that and then not continue, because some Trump supporters are more specific than the Democrats, but it's Trump's not a cult, but they want to be in a cult.
	I want to nicely try to explain to them so they don't, you know, get mad because they think anything coming out of the administration came out of Trump and 55 trillion D beyond God chess, okay?
	All right.
	I mean, I mean they could, they you know, get in the toilet when Trump takes a shit and read read the entrails, you know, like tea leaves to see the future.
	I mean, they they would worship Trump shit.
	So so my deal is I I know the real world, and I know here's what I meant to say.
	You say it so quick like you do, but here's here's the key.
	They didn't have all those bots ready, day one to attack us all with talking points and a massive concerted and corporate media attack because we're weak.
	It's because we're strong, all of us, the people watching.
	And they had to come in there and do that because they're scared of Trump space.
	So all I'm saying is don't give up to everybody.
	Don't walk away, be critical, support what's good, and also be very vocal on what's wrong, because that's what the globalists, I mean the whole Black Rock Pentagon, Israel, the whole blob wants that.
	And I'm just saying support the areas of good things we're getting, support the good members of the administration, and but at the same time, then hold Trump's feet in the fire, and that means his administrators.
	I mean, I've got Kyle Seraphon on.
	Every week he lists FBI agents that are deep staters, they fire him.
	But but tell do all that.
	But the fact is we have to do that.
	You think I want to sit here every week and target high-level FBI deputy directors and people?
	No, but it's you think I want to fly airplanes around the country thinking Bill Clinton's a rapist and you know, pay listeners 10,000 apiece if they got on public TV and called him that.
	We paid out $500,000.
	You want to rob them on a hit list?
	So to anybody out there, and I don't need to say all this, but you know, Nick, I'm watching Nick, he's inspired me to actually talk about Bona Finis, because Nick's got a lot of bona feet, means things he's done, you know, notches on the gunbell.
	Guys, the idea that I'm CIA or I work for the establishment, holy hell, all I do is wreck it.
	And I'm a testimony with me and my crew and my family that we've gone through this together, and that's why I know they're real people like Nick.
	I know they're real people like you.
	Like I said to Nick a few months ago, we agree.
	The devil's biggest trick isn't that he doesn't exist.
	That's the second biggest.
	It's the good doesn't exist.
	You know you're good.
	So for the mentally ill cue people that think I'm a clone or the left that thinks I'm really a Nazi.
	No, guys, you're the ones that are bad.
	We're the ones that are grassroots, we're the ones that brought the receipts.
	Nick's already got a 10-year record himself.
	I can't imagine what it's blocking.
	He's 50.
	So this is a magic moment right now.
	And 100%, we have the power, we need to use it.
	Nick, closing statement.
	Anything else going ahead?
	Absolutely.
	I agree.
	And I think it is about fundamentally, and I think you said it so beautifully.
	There has to be on some level a decoupling.
	It's no longer MAGA, it is 1776, it's America first.
	We need to assert our interest first.
	It's not about Trump.
	It's not about this administration.
	It's about this country.
	It's about America first.
	So I think people should keep speaking up, and I think they should keep their options open and not be beholden to a politician.
	Even one that you like, even one you agree with.
	We need to keep our options open and keep our eyes focused on the prize.
	So those are my closing thoughts, but it's been uh great to be with you.
	Great debate, great conversation.
	Always is.
	I know you're not a clone.
	I've met you.
	Same guy, same guy, not cloned, not anybody getting no one.
	You always quantify it quickly.
	We're not selling our birthright to Trump and his family in some dynasty.
	We're not in a cult, and we're not setting up some new aristocracy or or some new royal line.
	No, we're 1776.
	We're Americans.
	If somebody supports that and it's good, we'll defend them.
	But again, this idea they've tried to sell the Republican Party of now Trump's gone through all this, he's the royalty, don't question, that's a damn cult.
	Yes.
	I'm moving to Iowa.
	I I think that, you know, you always ask me what's the play, what's the next move?
	I think the next three years, uh, to be honest with you, are cooked.
	And I know you're in it to win it.
	I know you're you're pushing Trump, and I know you know people in the administration.
	But you know what I think about?
	I think about how Mark Levin had lunch with Trump a week before the war in Iran.
	I think about how Laura Loomer enjoys like unlimited access to the president.
	Darren Beatty has a job at the State Department.
	Darren Beattie runs revolver.
	Why does Alex Jones not get invited to have lunch with the president?
	I'm sure he probably could if you push for it.
	And I know you know people in the White House, but it's like the real Patriots don't have a seat at the table, like the neocons do.
	Susie Wiles and these other people that are inside the administration, they were loyal to Trump throughout.
	You know, Trump's campaign manager on January 6th was saying, you know, this guy needs to be put in jail.
	For what it's worth, Tucker had his text messages published and said, I hate Trump.
	I can't wait until he's gone.
	Why is it that people that are disloyal have access?
	But the people that were loyal and are loyal to the movement have no access and seem to have very little influence over the president.
	So for me, it's like if I don't have a seat at the table, I'm gonna flip the table over.
	And if you don't want that, then give me a seat at the damn table.
	Well, that's the one.
	And I feel like the next that, yeah, absolutely freedom is not given.
	It's demanded and forced.
	And so it's an important discussion, the port in your debate.
	I agree about 9% of what you said, but it's all been eloquently stated.
	And just to be clear, I have been invited to Marlongo.
	I have been invited to the White House, and when it happens, I just I just go, oh, sure, and then I don't actually do it.
	And it's not that I'm a wimp, but they got they still got moles in there and everything.
	I I can do everything on the outside, way better than politics.
	And going and having dinner with Trump and 10 other people being patted on the head.
	What happens is as soon as that happens, and again, I'll tell the truth on air, and whatever happens, happens.
	But for some reason, that triggers them so bad.
	The deep state, when I it's like putting kryptonite next to a nuclear weapon or whatever, or two kryptonites together.
	They just go crazy.
	So I I I have been, and they tried to spin it that I was offered to be bribed, and I and I guess I was you know too simplistic about it.
	No, when I was criticizing, you know, Trump and the Epstein thing, I got White House calls saying, we think you're right.
	We don't know why he's doing this.
	There's no evidence he gets really mad.
	What do you want?
	I mean, you know, like what do you want us to do?
	What do you wasn't like, oh, we'll give you a bag of money.
	It was like, what do you want?
	What do you think we should do?
	But it was also like, what do you want?
	You want, you know, uh so you know a little bit of that, but not like, oh, there's a bag of money here.
	But nobody offered me bribe.
	That's what they do.
	But but that's what most people do is they're there just to get a job, they're to do that.
	No, I want to build my own thing.
	That's what freedom is all about.
	Are you doing your stream tonight, Nick?
	Yes.
	Yeah, I'll be going live in a couple of hours.
	But you never give people the time.
	So what time is it tonight?
	I I'm feeling 9 30, feeling 9 30 central tonight.
	All right.
	Well, I'm gonna let you get ready for that in less than an hour and a half.
	Or I guess that's uh two and a half, two, two hours, 25 minutes.
	All right, uh Nick J. Fuentes on Rumble.
	Again, they say I can play the clips, even new ones at universities.
	Whites are all evil.
	Uh, Christians are all evil.
	The ADL's funding it.
	So you can't be mad at Nick saying then, you know, the ADL's bad and give them their own medicine back.
	And that's that's why the rules uh have changed.
	I don't want to go down this road.
	It's the globalists that brought us here.
	Nick Fuentes, thank you so much.
	Thank you for having me.
	Well, that was a good debate discussion.
	And I keep trying to debate him, but I I overall he has arguments.
	Um, but I'll tell you this the Democrats are on record plan to burn the country down and do false flags on illegal aliens and trigger a race war.
	And I'm trying to get ahead of that and stop it.
	So uh quite frankly, I think Trump should gear up more troops and get ready for that.
	I get down the road, it can become a problem, but uh these troops are not being trained.
	And and I mentioned this at the start.
	I've forgotten it, and because I hadn't seen this article yet, and I'm glad that the crew found it reminded me, because I said I'd give you an update at the end of the Nick Fuentes discussion or debate.
	And here it is.
	Here it is right here.
	Yeah, we've survived by your support and the grace of God.
	This broke at seven o'clock tonight on the communist globalist CIA network in PR.
	InfoWars conspiracy assists, whatever word that means, conspiracyist.
	Alex Jones loses another legal Battle.
	Did I lose a legal battle?
	No, I didn't.
	But my lawyers asked me today, that's what I was not on air for.
	And I didn't go in the courtroom.
	I was just there nearby watching in case I was needed for different reasons.
	So I wasn't called, you know, put me in front of Guerra Gamble that ran the first show trial with HBO.
	HBO.
	HBO.
	The federal judge has blocked any receiver or any grabbing of free speech systems.
	The Democrats don't want money.
	They don't want to settle it.
	They want to shut down.
	They've said that in the filings.
	And they went a year ago or 11 months ago and got a receiver, and then that got blocked, and then he committed suicide a few months ago.
	So they went back to Guerrero Gamble.
	They got a new one.
	But she said today, I don't care what the federal judge said.
	You know, I don't care about any of this.
	I'm ordering the receivership.
	And here is the turnover order to seize Infowars to give it to the Travis County Sheriff's Department.
	So they could potentially be here tomorrow morning.
	Probably not, probably next week or something.
	Zoom in on that.
	But let's show the HC version of it.
	But that's why she says that I've been dealt another legal battle.
	The federal judge has a stay on it, and it's on appeal.
	It's cut and dry.
	You can't do that.
	But they couldn't have a fake auction.
	They said they had a public auction.
	It was fake.
	They gave it to Bloomberg and the Onion.
	That got overridden.
	Without court orders, they ordered the building closed.
	I stayed in the building.
	That got overridden.
	There's Bloomberg.
	Alex Jones M4's assets to be taken over by receiver.
	The assets are in federal bankruptcy and are already under the U.S. trustee who's been working with the bad guys.
	Now they're planning to go to him and have him sign them over, even though the judge has blocked it.
	So it's all coming to a head.
	But we got the Alex Jones Network back up.
	I don't own it.
	I don't own the Alex Jonesstore.com.
	So they can't seize that.
	That'll fund us into the future.
	And everybody that's like, oh, I get congratulated on all these talk shows and on the street.
	Hey, you beat them.
	Ha ha ha ha, the onion.
	I'm like, we beat them.
	No, we just won that round.
	Yeah, we're now in the fourth quarter here.
	So I need your support at the alexchonstore.com.
	Plus, we have incredible products.
	This new colostrum, this is these superfood superfoods.
	It's all amazing.
	Um, tactical battle daggers, trench knives, limitation selling out quickly, all discounted up to 40%.
	Right now at the Alxhimstore.com, it takes money to fight these people.
	But without giving away legal strategy, let's just say this.
	This is not gonna make the federal judge happy because this is cut and dry.
	And you already have the Democrat Court of Appeals signaling even Bloomberg reported they're gonna overturn the Texas judgment, it's a total fraud.
	The judge found me guilty, had a show trial, had the told the jury I was guilty, but they didn't like how they ruled for only a couple million dollars.
	So two weeks after their ruling, she says, Well, I find elder abuse 40 something million tagged on.
	And you're like, well, that's okay.
	They got their Connecticut judgment for a billion 400 million.
	I'm not gonna tell you the rest of it.
	I'm just gonna stop right there.
	But if you think the stuff we learned so far is bad, rigging, fake auctions, the DOJ funding the lawsuits, all of it.
	We got stuff a lot worse, and we're just waiting.
	We're just waiting.
	And the DOJ is investigating them.
	You're like, it's self?
	Oh, that's why they're interested.
	Because you have this other office of bankruptcy in the DOJ.
	It's been weaponized, and they want to clean that up.
	And in the words of the DOJ, task force leader, you've been very, very sloppy.
	So you just keep betting on no indictments ever coming.
	First time grand jury's have been in panel for real.
	I know the Q-Tards told you they did it before.
	Hillary was in get mode.
	That was all fake.
	I told you that was fake.
	This is real.
	And at the end of the day, Trump's got some good people the DOJ is bringing in, like Ed Martin and others, so I don't just have faith.
	I rely on it.
	So you read this stuff, and it's just like it should be.
	State judge violates federal and state law, abuses authority, overrides federal bankruptcy court stay on receivership.
	And watch what happens.
	I mean, pigs can fly these days.
	So if two million have a baby, I guess this is okay.
	But in the real world, it's not.
	This is just like their fake auction.
	And just like all the rest of the crap, it ain't gonna fly.
	And let's just say this.
	People were extremely pleased today by the hearing.
	Because she's gonna get mandamused so bad.
	And this that means they appeal, and this is so cut and dry.
	So it is an amazing time to be alive, is all I can tell you.
	And I'll be talking about it more at 11 a.m. tomorrow.
	Harris Smith's at 8 a.m.
	And we're gonna keep all the crew employed and all the people.
	We've got backers and the rest of it, but they can't get involved because we're in bankruptcy.
	We've got to fight this alone with our sponsor, Big Lee, the auction sword.com.
	We tend to go at least 20 hours a day live.
	Whether this place survives or whether we got a bigger studio they're building, just totally without me even involved, just counting on us or just building it here in Austin.
	There's another little emergency backup belt you've seen.
	So we've been fighting on a bunch of fronts here only because of your support.
	And I'm not a Macchiavelli.
	I can think like that.
	I don't like false flag and halfway fight so they shut us down so I can play victim.
	No, I want the name InfoWars.
	I want to keep embarrassing them.
	I want our archives, they want to harass us with it.
	They want my name they claim they own.
	I'm battling them with everything I got.
	But it's like Obi-Wan Kenobi.
	If you strike me down, I get more powerful than you can possibly imagine.
	But I've got to, in front of God and family and country, fight them with 100% of my will.
	And then after all the stuff they've been caught in, if they actually shut us down, and then we've got all the criminal investigations and the new stuff we're gonna bring out.
	That is spectacular.
	We're holding this back.
	It's just so bad.
	I mean, you know.
	Just get when this stuff comes out, just boost it and get it out, folks.
	Because this is this is this is this is crazy.
	So they screwed the pooch, and they're so desperate in a freeding frenzy to get me because they're so embarrassed.
	They think if they finally shut us down, legitimize all the crazy stuff they did.
	InfoWars founder Alex Jones.
	Conspiracy theorist Alex Jones could soon be forced to stop airing the InfoWars show and give up the company's property, including everything from desks to microphones to the InfoWars brand name.
	Oh, I thought there was billions and hidden money.
	Oh my gosh.
	A state judge that ran the show trial, HBO, George Soros funded Democrat, Texas Wednesday, ordered InfoWars assets to be turned over to a newly appointed state receiver who will sell them to pay the families.
	Oh, yes, who don't want money.
	Uh the few hundred thousand dollars is here of equipment.
	The Connecticut children killed implies like I killed them.
	Just says the kids killed.
	Oh God, I killed them.
	I'm sorry.
	They won a three point one point three billion defamation case against Jones after he spread bogus conspiracies that the shooter never happened.
	And the grieving families were actors.
	Oh, really?
	His listeners harassed the families.
	Never found in court.
	She's found me guilty of that lie.
	The move paves the way for the receiver or sheriffs to start the process of seizing cash and property owned by InfoWars and its parent company.
	Oh, the cash.
	I've already been in bankruptcy.
	I don't have any cash to speak of, you know, any major amount.
	Free speech systems within days.
	See, see, told us to start the show before you know the snatter.
	Within days, within days.
	The move paves the way for the receiver or sheriffs to start the process of seizing cash and property owned by InfoWars and its parent company.
	Free speech systems within days, the families who spent more than three years in federal bankruptcy court trying to collect what Jones owes them.
	No, they've said in filings we don't want money.
	We want it closed.
	I didn't say, ha ha, to start seeing their first paychecks through the state court in weeks or months.
	Ladies and gentlemen, they raised $300 million of their foundation off my name, saying I was harassing them and playing victim.
	They got $74 million from Remington.
	And God knows what else.
	They had the big Democrat law firms attack me and my family and do all this stuff trying to make us give up.
	And then they're like, we ever got any money from the guy that hurt our children.
	And now we got all the transcripts and all in front of the appellate courts, said none of the things I even said.
	They claim I said this is crazy.
	The families, not the Democrats, are pleased with the court, has placed InfoWars parent company into receivership, which will finally lead to accountability.
	Yes, there's been no accountability for me and my parents being bankrupted when you sued them too, and they were all found innocent.
	Monstrously cruel harassment.
	Judge Myra Guerra Gamble, order of the Travis County District Court appointing a receiver, Gregory Milligan, will also be key to whether Jones gets to keep broadcasting under the InfoWars brand or as a start over under a new form.
	And they want to harass that.
	In this photo illustration, the onion homepage displayed, it goes on how they tried to buy it.
	I'm just gonna stop there.
	I'll cover all this tomorrow at 11 a.m.
	But you know.
	When George Washington fought the biggest army in the world for six years and lost the first five, but kept persevering.
	People didn't say, oh, you're not really fighting the British Army.
	I mean, you survived five years.
	We're not gonna give you support.
	But I see this everywhere.
	Oh, uh, you know, Jones isn't really getting sued.
	Jones isn't really under attack.
	You're like Stu Peterson people.
	I mean, what a what a just a monster, man.
	Denn we did any of that guy's like, it's fake.
	Uh Jones uh isn't really under attack.
	Uh my, you know, my parents don't have a double mortgage on their house down and are basically bankrupt.
	I'm not completely out of money.
	They're not been coming here and doing this.
	It's all just theater for Jones.
	And then we survive and we battle, and we I don't need to signal him out.
	It's just like, what?
	You claim your patriots against the system, but then when somebody's under massive attack, de-platform, de-banked, everything.
	No, it's all fake.
	Nothing happening.
	Hillary's in Gitmo 2 and JFK Jr. is alive.
	I mean, it's just it's all just so.
	We are under sustained intense attack.
	They don't own the olighouse store.com.
	It funds the all shows network backup.
	We need support.
	And these are great products.
	So go there now.
	And I know if they're successful shutting us down, we'll get a bunch of support.
	But I don't want to give them the damn victory.
	I mean, I've been resigned to this for a long time.
	The name InfoWars.
	The InfoWars is just a generic term.
	It goes on forever.
	It'll make it bigger.
	Oh, you get a website and make jokes on it or whatever, have Bloomberg run it, a gun control site.
	No, InfoWars belongs to you.
	Everything we were broadcasting with Free Day belongs to you.
	But yeah, we're in battle.
	This is going down.
	I couldn't do the show today because I had to go deal with this.
	And I'm up here at 7:20 at night fighting because it's a pleasure and an honor to be on air standing with you because we are 1776.
	We are the answer to their 1984 system.
	We are 1776.
	And we brought Trump and we brought the global revolution.
	Us all of you, the viewers, listeners together, this family.
	And we're going to continue on.
	No matter how many grand juries they impanel trying to put me in prison.
	Or even they do or kill me.
	You are the info war.
	You will continue on because we will never surrender to this globalist tyranny.
	But what's crazy is on its face, 100%, this was illegal.
	This was a fraud.
	This was a lie.
	This they can't do.
	But they still did it.
	Because they think if they see the image of the marshals here or the sheriffs, and it shut down, it's that same delusion.
	The judge ordered an auction of the high spitter.
	Well, people that'll keep Jones on air have the high bid.
	We're not going to pay money.
	Just say it's an auction, give it to us.
	Okay.
	And we sued them and got all their emails and all that.
	And we got big actions, criminal and civil coming on that.
	A bunch of lawsuits are already been filed.
	You don't hear about it because we're winning that.
	And then they just think, just rush in all crazy.
	Like, oh, arrest Trump for racketeering at Bill Bar behind the scenes doing the Democrats, and then get a mug shot, and a mugshot will finally beat him.
	His point shot up 10%.
	But that's they're like World War Z, though.
	They're like zombies.
	These lawyers and Democrats, they just keep attacking us.
	And you're like, well, they're stupid, but they don't stop.
	And that's why they win sometimes because we have to never stop, never give up.
	And I'll never sell out, never give up, never back down.
	But I could give out without your support.
	So that's the rest of the story.
	Great job of the crew.
	And I mean, they they seem desperate today.
	They may, they may send the sheriff department to market.
	They got that fraudulent order from the judge.
	Said any day.
	You saw it right here, you know, in the news in the corporate media.
	Any day, MPR Bloomberg, any day.
	In the next few days.
	What did I say at the start of the show?
	I said, you know, I'm telling you, I just got here from court.
	This is going on.
	Matter of days.
	I don't know.
	I think the sheriffs are smart.
	I think they're gonna check into this, but they had private security.
	Remember back in May 31st, just show up and say, we're ordered by the DOJ.
	This trustee to seize you, and where's the court order?
	I said, I'm not leaving.
	They said, Yeah, that's funny.
	Talk to the head of our company.
	Yeah, that's weird.
	Let me call you back.
	Well, I got this lawyer from the DOJ threatening me, saying, I'm a lawyer, do this, but there is no court order.
	I said, I'm gonna call the police if you try to kick us out of the building.
	Because they're the they're the they're the trustees, so they can have whatever they want.
	Well, we run this.
	And I said, I'm not leaving.
	In fact, Chase made one of these back when this all happened first in uh May and June.
	Will you find the uh I'm not leaving?
	A wolf of Wall Street thing, people love that one so viral, like 50 million views on X. Find that I'm not leaving promo.
	InfoWars, I'm not leaving.
	See if we can find that.
	Because I want to air that.
	First, I'm gonna play something I did two days ago, break it down really something amazing, and then we're gonna find that clip, come back with it, and that's it for the transmission.
	Uh, this all belongs to you.
	This discussion, debate, clip it, put it out, copyright free, trademark free, free to air, free to air, it's all yours.
	God bless you.
	Now, support us at the olix of the store.com.
	Now, here's something else.
	People keep asking, why do you have the best stuff?
	How do you have the best stuff?
	Why do you continue to just have supplements that are so much better than everybody else's?
	Because we go out exhaustively and find out who the top-rated top sellers already are.
	There's usually two or three brands out of hundreds of each thing.
	And we go to them and we say we'd like to private label it.
	And in almost every case, they say yes.
	Some of them have to sign an agreement not to say what we're getting from because they don't want to get political backlash.
	It's not rocket science.
	I go out and I get whatever's already the best, and already has the best ratings, is already the most tested, and then I bring it to you.
	Wow, what a thought.
	So I've been hearing about this for years, and now it's all the rage.
	And about a year ago, they did a survey of the customers at the auction store.com about 11 months ago, and said, What is it you want the most?
	What product would you like to have?
	Well, you got that email.
	And the number one thing was bovine colostrum.
	Now it took them six, eight months to find the best place.
	This is the highest rated private labeled, 2,000 milligram per serving.
	And if you don't know what colostrum is, let me tell you.
	A cow's a mammal, we're a mammal.
	A dog's a mammal, oh, a blue whale's a mammal.
	A killer whale is a mammal.
	I know most of you know that.
	And mammals drink milk from their mother's breasts.
	Yeah, whales have breast.
	And the first milk of the first few weeks is called colostrum.
	And it's more clear, and it's full of all of the immunity and all the supernutrients.
	And it's basically God's vaccine.
	That's what the hospital systems try to keep women from breastfeeding.
	And oh, go ahead and give them formula.
	And oh no, take your baby away.
	Don't do that.
	Because it's all baked in to make your kid unhealthy.
	So bovine colostrum has been given as a superfood going back in Germany, 60, 70, 80 years.
	And you know, if your kid was sickly or whatever, they would say, get a cow's colostrum, the you know, the first milk, right after it has a baby.
	Just get it from regular dairy cow.
	And they would also say the best is actually a donkey's colostrum.
	They say it's even better than humans.
	Goat colostrum's good too.
	And it's expensive.
	Okay.
	So I'm not gonna lie to you.
	People think bovine colostrum's great.
	It's widely produced.
	You can get it a good price.
	You try to buy, you it's easy, it's even hard to get goat colostrum, and it's super hard to get Jenny colostrum.
	That's the that's a male donkey's a jack and the girl's a Jenny.
	Uh, but the the point is ultra-rich people actually have those just for themselves.
	And they literally have the donkey has to have a baby, and then only for a few weeks do you get colostrum?
	All right.
	So we've got the best bovine colostrum that we're introducing right now that you're gonna find anywhere.
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	So I'm introducing a new product right now.
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	This clean, filter-free formula is your gut daily defense against toxins and stress.
	And again, it it's a it's a it's a hassle.
	I mean, because you only get this for a few weeks after the cow has a baby.
	So it's the next best thing to mommy's milk that you can get widely available.
	So it's all the rage for years.
	Everybody's going totally insane about it.
	I'm gonna be taking it.
	Everybody keeps asking me, why aren't you on colostrum?
	What does your joints, your overall health, your gut, your skin?
	Women that are into your skin, you put all these expensive creams on, also stuff.
	You take pills for your nails.
	This is next level.
	So I'm gonna stop.
	That was a long plug as I'm introducing a new product.
	And I'll be completely honest with you.
	Everybody's been telling me to take colostrum for years.
	I just it's hard for me to start taking a supplement once I do and it works.
	I I stay on it.
	I'm gonna be taking this.
	All I hear about is how great it is.
	For years I've been telling you guys never to take note for an answer, right?
	You know, to keep pushing to never hang up the phone until you get what you want.
	Because you all deserve it.
	You know this deal that I'm about to sign.
	The f is that, you know.
	I'll tell you what it is.
	It's it's it's me taking no for an answer, you know.
	It's them selling me, not the other way around.
	It's me being a hypocrite is what it is.
	So you know what?
	I'm not leaving.
	I'm not leaving.
	I'm not f***ing leaving!
	We're here again!
	The show goes on.
	This is my home.
	They're gonna need a racket ball to take me out of here.

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