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| This is James O'Keefe. | |
| You're watching Infowars.com. | |
| We are here with James O'Keefe, the man behind Project Veritas Action, who has come out with some pretty amazing investigative reports. | |
| Just recently, the Washington Post report that was jaw-dropping. | |
| Now, James O'Keefe, I noticed you mentioned during your presentation that you were running out of time. | |
| You wish you had more. | |
| Was there anything specific that you wanted to get to that you didn't have a chance to? | |
| I just wanted to show the audience here at SMU. Southern Methodist University about our New York Times sting, about more media stings, the Washington Post sting. | |
| I spoke a long time about undercover ethics and the techniques used to get the information to clarify a lot of things there. | |
| But I was expecting to be protested, but I think the presentation went well and people really, their eyes kind of opened because it was about truth to power and it was about all these media conglomerates and all the forces that work against the people. | |
| And I think hearing the stories about I think it inspired a lot of people, honestly, that didn't think they were going to be inspired. | |
| Definitely. | |
| And, you know, what advice would you give to young people out there who want to be journalists, trying to get into the journalist industry, given that we have this fake news mainstream media avenue, and then we also have this citizen journalism YouTube avenue. | |
| What would you give them advice to do? | |
| I think... | |
| Grab a camera, go out in the field and start your own YouTube channel and just start doing it. | |
| And try to learn lessons from people who've done it before, whether it's your heroes in independent media or whether you want to pick up some books from the old school and read Upton Sinclair and Nellie Bly and those types of muckrakers or even some of the modern citizen bloggers that are out there. | |
| Learn from them and go out and make mistakes. | |
| But the main message, one of the main messages that I had tonight at SMU was the idea of being unafraid. | |
| You have to be willing to face the sort of public humiliation that comes along from very powerful people doing this. | |
| And that's the hardest thing for people to get over. | |
| Well, do you have any hints for us as to what's next? | |
| Who's next? | |
| You know, I would love to tell you. | |
| Merrick and Pravda, Veritas is coming out with a book launch in January. | |
| I think we're rolling out this Washington Post thing right now, and we're taking a lot of heat for it. | |
| But we have a video that just came out this morning, and guys on tape saying the Russia stuff is an effing black box. | |
| It may not be a story. | |
| It contradicts everything the paper tells us in the op-ed pages and elsewhere. | |
| And I think we're going to be going after bigger and bigger entities. | |
| I have the words on my lips, and I want to say the names of these companies, but just imagine the largest and most powerful informational entities in the world, and that's who we're going to go after. | |
| And sometimes we're going to stumble, and sometimes the undercover exposes don't... | |
| Sometimes there isn't a story, but there's always a story somewhere, and it's our job to find it. | |
| And we know that... | |
| For example, a lot of people within various media entities are doing bad things, and our job is to ferret them out, make them accountable, make them honest, keep them honest. | |
| Definitely. | |
| Well, I look forward to that. | |
| That sounds pretty amazing and interesting. | |
| Well, another question is, I had the opportunity to talk to some of the people that were leaving, and some people mentioned they were wondering why Project Veritas edits their videos. | |
| Could you kind of explain that a little bit? | |
| And also, would you be willing to release full copies of videos to kind of silence some critics? | |
| I don't think that would silence my critics. | |
| I don't think my critics are ever going to be silenced. | |
| My critics are insatiable. | |
| We are an existential threat to... | |
| I hate to use the word establishment because it's a cliche, but we are. | |
| We're an existential threat to very powerful people. | |
| And if I release the full video, I've done this, by the way, where I release, when I walk in, I walk out, I did a video on Pat Moran, congressman, son in Virginia, and they said, well, how do I know you didn't turn the camera back and go back in? | |
| It was an illogical, silly, irrational reaction. | |
| So it's impossible to satiate them. | |
| What I just told the Associated Press Reporter, who I talked to a minute ago, was, you know, Hold us to the same standard you hold yourself to. | |
| And tell me a specific edit to these critics. | |
| Tell me a specific edit that I have actually done that represents the work meaningless. | |
| Because people keep resigning. | |
| There's scandals and resignations and legislation. | |
| So show me the edit that makes the video fake or unreal. | |
| And the media edits everything. | |
| They don't release their raw notebooks. | |
| I just gave an interview with the New York Times and they didn't publish my comment. | |
| So they selectively edited out my comment. | |
| And if that's okay for them to do, I think maybe we need to revisit this whole concept of information and what it means. | |
| And maybe reporters ought to release their full raw notebooks. | |
| But don't expect me to do something that they don't do as... | |
| Investigators is the point that I was making today. | |
| That's right. | |
| I mean, we've seen them edit up what Trump says, and then you have that misunderstanding. | |
| But what do you think the next shoe to drop from the mainstream media is? | |
| We've seen the Russia collusion narrative, and that seems to be kind of drying up. | |
| Do you think that they're going to try something else? | |
| Oh, yes, absolutely. | |
| I can only talk about what I've seen. | |
| And with CNN, it was all about ratings and ratings and clicks and the so-called Trump bump the New York Times talked about. | |
| But I honestly believe, and call me crazy, but I actually think that we've managed to keep them a little honest here. | |
| And they're afraid. | |
| The managing editor of the Washington Post sent out a blast email. | |
| We got a copy of it. | |
| It said, beware. | |
| Be on the lookout for people posing as students. | |
| So I think a lot of these journalists, we better bet the hell out of our sources. | |
| We better vet the hell out of what we're doing. | |
| And if we contributed to that, I think that that's a service. | |
| That's a public service. | |
| What are they going to do next? | |
| I think the media is broken, and I think it's been broken for a while for economic reasons, mostly economic reasons. | |
| And that's not a left or right thing. | |
| It's just economics. | |
| There's very little investigative journalism these days that happen. | |
| It's narrative-driven. | |
| It's agenda-driven. | |
| So I think that there's going to be a tipping point in the near future where people like you, citizens, have more power and more ability to make more of a difference. | |
| And I hope that we can reach that point sooner rather than later. | |
| It's just that the problem is we disseminate our information on social media, and those companies are becoming... | |
| Pretty powerful and potentially corrupt. | |
| That's right. | |
| You know, the Internet has opened up this Wild West, this freedom where you have free media and journalists going out there and competing with the controlled... | |
| Fake news, mainstream media, and the corruptions that you are exposing. | |
| What do you think about the net neutrality issue that's coming up where, you know, we have some people saying that it's a good thing to overturn net neutrality, some people saying it's a bad thing. | |
| Do you think that that could impact, whether it goes either way, the free press that's going on on the Internet? | |
| Well, I think that's a very good question. | |
| I need to... | |
| I need to form my opinions a little bit better about that. | |
| Generally, I'm a First Amendment extremist. | |
| I was saying tonight that I can't believe that half of the millennials, people in college, don't even necessarily believe in a First Amendment. | |
| So I think we've got some broader problems on our hands. | |
| And I don't know, I guess my goal is to shock people into believing, I guess my goal is to shock people into believing what's necessarily I don't know how we're going to get people to understand how important it is that they can exchange ideas freely. | |
| I think maybe the only way to do it is to go out and do more of these investigative videos because they'll go, if that didn't happen, I wouldn't know about it. | |
| But you can't lobby for or against this issue because it's so partisan and so bitterly divided. | |
| So you've got to find some common ground with 80% of the people here. | |
| But it is a huge danger. | |
| They tried banning me off Twitter last year. | |
| Luckily, I got reinstated. | |
| I think there's a little bit of the Streisand effect where if they ban you and get rid of you, they'll just make you bigger. | |
| This week has been all about that, in my opinion. | |
| So all you got to do is keep fighting. | |
| And if they block you or ban you or shut you down, you find another way, right? | |
| Exactly. | |
| You go to Reddit or some people you go to, I don't know, the Internet. | |
| Black market, but you create a new internet. | |
| I don't know, but you've got to keep going, right? | |
| You've got to keep on going and be persistent. | |
| Well, I just have one last question for you because I know you are going to be super busy with interviews tonight. | |
| Yeah, tons. | |
| They're lining up. | |
| So my last question to you is, what was your red pill moment? | |
| Define red pill. | |
| What I mean by red pill is the moment that you woke up and kind of Popped out of the matrix, the bubble, where, you know, most people in America think everything's perfect, everything's run perfectly. | |
| The news, the media's run perfectly, the government. | |
| What was your moment of awakening? | |
| Well, that's an interesting question. | |
| I would say when I was in college, I read the New York Times every day. | |
| Every single day, front to back. | |
| Because I love media, I love sociology. | |
| I'm fascinated by ideas and information. | |
| And I read the New York Times every day and I got really upset by what I was reading because I was like, that just doesn't seem fair. | |
| That just doesn't seem right. | |
| It doesn't seem like it's a reflection of reality. | |
| And journalism, fundamentally, is about informing people. | |
| And giving people a dose of reality. | |
| And we rely upon our common sense to inform our intuition. | |
| So that when what you're reading in the New York Times is in contrast to your common sense and your intuition, it sort of makes you go, well, this is a bunch of crap. | |
| So I was reading this in the New York Times, and there are some good journalists in the New York Times, but I read it and I was like, you know what, this is a bunch of crap. | |
| I just want to go out and show things for what they really are. | |
| That's all it was. | |
| And I was young, and I've been doing this now for probably ten years. | |
| And honestly, I will never be out of work because there's a lot of corrupt, bad fraud and illegal behavior and hypocritical behavior. | |
| We will never be out of work, and we have a great responsibility to many people in this country because there just aren't a lot of people who are willing to do it. | |
| So now it's just become this magnanimous force of many, many, many, many undercover journalists full-time around the United States, and we are never going to give up. | |
| Well, thank you so much, James O'Keefe. | |
| This has been an amazing presentation and an awesome interview. | |
| And I salute you! | |
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