I'm your host, Rob Dew, joined with Leanne McAdoo.
And here's our guest, Andrew Torba of Gab AI. He used to work in the Silicon Valley for others and decided he could build a better mousetrap.
Is that a correct assessment of Gab AI? Yeah, and that's the American way, isn't it?
I can do something better, I'm going to do it, and you put your effort behind it, and boom.
Absolutely.
I think conservatives like to complain a lot and not actually take action.
And I saw a lot of things that were going down, and I said, I'm going to take action.
You know, no one's building an alternative, so let's make it happen.
That's it.
And so you're in the beta phase right now.
You're about to go live.
What is going to happen when this goes live?
Right.
So we've been in beta for about eight months now.
We have 160,000 users and about 200,000 people waiting to get in.
And we're going to open the doors, essentially, and let anybody join before you needed to actually get an invite, either through us or through one of our members.
So it's a little bit of an exclusivity marketing tactic there.
And also, we never expected the demand that we got, and we needed some time to build out our infrastructure, and we're now ready to open up.
Excellent, excellent.
Buy more servers and plant there and then get more air conditioning for the servers.
Right, right.
People to run the servers and all that stuff.
I'm actually on Gab AI. I don't use it as much, though, because, what, Apple won't release the damn app.
Is that correct?
Yeah, yeah.
So we've had our iOS app done for about four months now.
Yeah.
We've submitted it eight or nine times, and they reject it every time on the grounds of objectionable content.
Wow.
Which is a subjective thing.
Free and open internet.
They are objecting to that at every turn.
We're following Rockefeller.
Competition is a sin modality.
Well, that's the whole net neutrality that they're trying to sell it to us, that they're doing us a favor, but really it's to do a favor for Google and Yahoo, these other huge tech giants.
They don't want any competition.
So anyone coming in that, you know, Twitter originally was, you know, where people could go to get their fast and free information.
It wasn't filtered, and now we see their kowtowing down to the globalist establishment desire.
So they don't want...
Something to come up in its place that's going to just replace that and be the free, open-source way for people to share their communication.
Right, absolutely.
I mean, if you think about it, there are no real alternatives.
Like, you look at the App Store, the top 20 apps, four or five of them are owned by Facebook.
Facebook owns Messenger.
Facebook owns the Facebook native app.
They own Instagram.
They own WhatsApp.
They own the top of the App Store.
And the rest is owned by Google.
And then there's, what, Snapchat?
And that's it.
Right.
And then they want to go in and buy anyone that's...
Right.
They tried to buy Snapchat.
Exactly.
And...
They knew from day one that they couldn't come and snap us up.
So the smear campaign started with the media where we became the Twitter for racists.
What does that even mean?
Twitter is the Twitter for racists.
So they tried smearing us and it only propelled our growth, to be honest.
And what we've been able to accomplish without a mobile app, to be honest, is unprecedented.
We also didn't take VC money.
Like you guys, we're completely dependent on our community.
We've been running on community donations since October and now we just started monetizing with a pro version of the product.
We want to keep it ad free because what's happening on YouTube and other channels is the advertisers are the puppet masters and they're demonetizing people and that's a form of censorship because if you're afraid to say something or talk about a certain topic because you're not going to be able to pay your bills, there are content creators on YouTube that literally do this for a living and now there are content creators on YouTube that literally do this for a Stay on brand.
I was reading a story about a guy, David Pacman, who's a liberal, and I don't agree with anything that he says.
Really.
But I also don't feel right that, you know, they go to him and, yeah, come on, make your stuff, put it all here.
Oh, now you can monetize.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He went from making like $20,000 a month to six cents.
Right, yep.
You know, in one month.
And it's like, whoa, what happened?
In a blink, yeah.
And he didn't even do it.
He didn't change his show.
And he's a liberal.
He's spouting the liberal ideology.
So it's hitting everybody.
People need to realize that the censorship isn't just...
You know, relegated to the conservatives.
The liberals are going to get hit, too.
Wow, isn't that incredible?
Did this come out today?
Hey, Rob, I have a question.
Andrew, how do you get an invite to Gab right now?
I mean, how do you sign up for that?
Sure, so if you guys want to sign up for Gab, go to gab.ai, enter in your email address all day today.
We're sending out invites, so anybody that's watching the show.
You will get an invite.
Now, one thing I'll keep in mind, I'll caveat there, is Yahoo, AOL, and Gmail have been filtering our invites.
Putting you in the junk?
Sending them to spam, sending them to Google.
Social folder.
Social folder on Gmail.
So do an inbox search if you don't see it right away, and it'll appear.
Yeah, because I'm on there, Leanne McAdoo, but I've got to update my password.
I'm at Deuce News.
I'm there.
So, yeah, I mean, I think that's really interesting what you're talking about, how the App Store is denying.
Your ability to even put your app out there because they don't want any competition, that's just incredible how they can deny people access like that.
But we are seeing that kind of across the board.
So everyone's very aware of what's going on with Bill O'Reilly.
I'm sure we'll get to that a little bit later.
But they've got emails now saying that Media Matters is actually orchestrating this smear campaign.
And we reported about this back in January where Media Matters sent out this big memo saying that they were going to be secretly working with Facebook to fight fake news.
And they they have it's like a left wing advocacy group.
And they've got all these people they're paying to call and pull the advertisements, which we saw right around the same time was when Yahoo changed.
Sorry, YouTube changed their AdSense and the way that they were allowing people to make money off of YouTube.
And it was all based on political content or the users could say what they felt was inappropriate content.
So it's just all based on people's feelings.
There's no real rhyme or reason.
But yeah, this is so this is Media Matters quietly working with social media giant Facebook to combat what the group, what the group, what Media Matters describes as propaganda and fake news.
When Media Matters was created to be propaganda for the Clintons, that that's I mean, that this is they.
David Brock works for the Clintons.
They specifically created their little advocacy group, Media Matters, to help the Clintons and to write articles that they would then give out to news organizations so the news organizations could just reprint them without even questioning.
So they were there to just, you know, have the back of the Clintons.
In fact, the Clintons were bitching about trolls, Russian bots and trolls.
David Brock was leader of the Clinton Troll Brigade.
He was in charge of it all.
ShareBlue.
ShareBlue is an extension of Media Matters.
And what they do is they're paid trolls.
They go on Reddit.
They go on Twitter.
All our videos.
They comment.
All of your live streams.
Everything.
And they will try to dominate the comment sections and the content and force down stuff that they don't want you to see and force off stuff that they want to push.
Right.
Yeah.
I mean, that's just so...
It's so incredible that people don't understand how they can totally game.
The algorithms game the system.
So now I know we've talked about Mines.org or.com before here.
They're an open source, kind of wanting to be like a Facebook type deal.
Are you open source as well?
We're not open source at the moment, but we are absolutely open to it.
And we want to build a very strong developer community.
We're definitely pro-transparency, I'll say that.
So if we're making changes, we're letting our community know, and developers in our community keep us in check, to be frank.
And, you know, that's one of the things that I think Twitter really failed on very early on, is they have a terrible relationship with developers.
So we don't even have an API yet, but when we do, we want to form, you know, really solid, rock-solid relationships with our developers.
And so, of course, that just lets people see how their information is being used and shared, and, yeah, if you make some changes, Because a lot of people didn't understand what was going on, for instance, with Twitter when they just decided they were going to start, well, we can't just outright ban these really prominent conservative voices, so we'll just fix the algorithm and shadow ban it.
And then people don't even realize that people aren't getting their content.
I have no idea.
And it's not like what Facebook did.
Facebook tried the same thing where they started only showing your content to certain...
And then that way they could start building it to where you would have to pay to have your information go to all of your users.
At first, I thought that's what Twitter was up to.
But then it turns out, really, Twitter was just engaging in outright censorship.
Yeah.
Twitter's essentially a political action committee as a public company at this point.
Yeah.
And if you look at what they've done, you know, we've always suspected shadow banning.
Now they don't care.
They come out and they say it.
And they guise it under this layer of safety.
They say...
Well, we're hiding sensitive replies for safety reasons, right?
To protect our user base.
And they're guising it under this safety narrative.
And they use very ambiguous terms in their terms of service and in their new rules that they just released.
And they say, well, this is hate speech.
This is fake news.
This is harassment.
And all of those terms are subjective, right?
It's all in the eye of the beholder.
And the beholder is Twitter.
And they already have a means for you to mute and block people, which I use quite often.
So I don't understand, like, why do you have to go that extra mile, you know, to ban people or shadow ban people that you don't...
It's just...
Well, here's the reality.
I mean, Twitter and social media in general won the election for Trump.
Right.
And that was with the rise of people, you know, normal, everyday patriots around this country who stood up, put in the time, created the content, etc.
They're not going to allow that to happen again.
And that is what this is all about now.
They're closing the door.
A lot of my followers, I would see, I go and look at them every once in a while.
Most of them are people that have joined within the last year, during the election.
They joined in to get alerts, to spread memes, to communicate with other like-minded people.
And Twitter does get a little echo-chambery after a while.
It feels like you're...
Talking to the same people over and over again.
But I get a lot of great information from Twitter, and I make a lot of memes and spread them.
Yeah, you are the meme master.
Part of my meme machine.
So I want to get into Venezuela and what's going on.
We're having these riots now.
Guys, start rolling that riot footage.
Because last night I'm looking at this, and I'm like, am I for or against these rioters?
Okay, I think what's going on in Venezuela is a crime.
The government has taken over basically business.
We used to have a guy from Venezuela working here, and he went down to the last election, and people's businesses were being confiscated.
They were controlling food supplies.
So all this is going on.
But I'm looking at these people.
These look like Antifa people.
They're young kids.
They look like the same type of people.
But are these really freedom-loving people going against a tyrannical government?
Is this what we're seeing?
Is this a real...
Well, I might be able to shed a little light on that.
So we have the socialist Venezuelan leader stepping up the arming of his supporters.
So if they don't have guns and they're not armed and they're not part of the militia that's part of Maduro's militia there, then they probably are people who are standing up.
Which means you're pro-government.
Yeah, they probably legitimately are the anti-fascists.
But yeah, this was a really interesting story that just came out because we were reporting about how just about five years ago they started gun confiscation.
And it was under the guise of creating a peaceful time.
But really, they could see the writing on the wall.
There's a lot of peace right there.
Yeah, they knew that they were about to be in total economic distress, that they weren't going to be able to feed their people, that the government had taken over all the means of food supply and all of that, and they weren't going to be able to keep things under wraps.
So we need to just be the leader of the world and just take everyone's guns.
No one should have guns.
And they did that.
And then you see, just about a year after they did that massive...
Nationwide gun confiscation.
This is what has been happening.
But now, the leader there, Maduro, is slowly starting to give his supporters their guns.
What?
So basically, he is arming like a government-backed purge.
And they're calling it their militia, so only the people who support Maduro are going to have access to guns to be able to protect themselves and their families and possibly purge.
And to help when called on.
Exactly.
We need some brown shirts over here.
I need some muscle over here.
Does that remind you of anybody at a certain university?
What's your take on all this?
So I think we're seeing this global uprising of populist movements around the world.
And I think technology is playing a big role in that because...
We can communicate much faster.
We can get information much faster than ever before in history.
So you're seeing these movements pop up like this because of technology and being fueled by technology.
And I think that's partly why you're starting to see the censorship and stuff that we're starting to see from these big companies is they want to prevent stuff like this.
But the problem is that you're not going to prevent it because there's always a way to communicate.
As long as someone has internet access and a means and a piece of hardware to get access to it.
They're going to communicate.
They're going to organize.
Stuff like this is going to happen.
Right.
What do you think?
Because I know that was one of the ways that Twitter was actually put on the map.
Right.
Where they were able to help.
Right, the Arab Spring.
But then you learn years later.
Now we're in the American Spring and they're not supporting it, right?
Well, right.
But also, you know, how will you protect yourself against this?
Because we also found that, I forget who it was with Google and these other groups.
That actually went to those areas and were working with the leaders to show them how to use social media to engage in this uprising so that they could overthrow their government.
So they were basically coming and helping this coup, which we now understand in hindsight what was really happening there.
But on the one hand, it's like you're glad to be helping the people on the ground who truly want to get rid of their bad leader, but then you see that they were kind of used.
Could Gab ever be used to, you know, the government comes in and says, hey!
Right.
So I think as a platform, like, we want to remain as objective as possible.
Like, we're a piece of technology.
And I think the thing with Twitter is that when that was happening, you know, the technology was still very new, whereas Gab has the benefit of overcoming that learning curve.
So people understand how to use it.
They know how it works right away because they've been used to other social networks for the past decade or so.
So we don't really have that learning curve problem.
You know, as long as people are being lawful, as long as they're not breaking the law, that's really our primary concern.
We're not an anarchist website.
So, you know, we want law abiding citizens and we want people to follow the law within their domicile, obviously.
But, you know, outside of that, you know, free speech, organization, that type of stuff, you know, it's a platform.
It's a technology platform.
So we're agnostic in terms of that, and we want to be as politically neutral as possible.
What can you tell us, just being on the back end, about, like, bots and things like that and how the government creates sock puppet accounts?
Oh, right.
I mean, there's, what is it, 48 million Twitter accounts that are bot accounts out of their 300 million quote-unquote active users on a monthly basis.
You know, Facebook just banned apparently, supposedly 30,000 bot accounts that were pro-LePen.
These are bots.
Get rid of them.
This is spam.
Right, right, right, right.
Those are bots that are filling up her arenas.
Look at these bots everywhere.
Type in a picture of Marine LePen.
Rally.
And let's look at all the bots, because there must be lots of them.
Yeah, the bots vote for Donald Trump.
Yeah, exactly.
All those bots showing up for Donald Trump.
Now, we just had this Facebook killer that was going around.
He shot himself, waiting for his nuggets.
Right.
But how would you stop?
Because you're looking at starting a video platform as well.
Yeah, we're doing live streaming.
How would you stop something like that going out?
I mean, is there a way to stop it?
Is that anything people can stop?
So we have extreme vetting for our streaming service.
And that's one way to prevent it.
And we don't think of live in terms of this spontaneous thing like Periscope, like Facebook Live, etc.
We're thinking about streaming in the age of TV scheduling.
So why is it that when Donald Trump goes live on Facebook with one of the biggest fan bases on the network that he only pulls in 50,000 live viewers?
And yet he goes on Tucker Carlson and he'll pull in 4 million people.
Well, the reason for that is because humans run on a schedule.
We don't run on spontaneousness.
So what we're thinking is if people know when people are going to go live and they go live at a certain time every day of the week, people are more likely to tune in.
And then also, you look at streams on Periscope and Facebook Live, 95% of them are garbage.
They're uninteresting.
There are people in their bedroom in their pajamas talking about nonsense.
In their basement with Hot Pockets.
Right.
So it's like the amount of bandwidth, the amount of cost that comes with scaling that type of live product is insane.
And it's hard to bet.
Why are we going to pay for just nonsense when we can extremely vet people, get great content creators from YouTube, from these other channels, and help them monetize that content as well?
Because that's our next step is we want you, the viewer, to connect directly with the content creator peer-to-peer, cut the middleman out of the advertiser through tips, subscriptions, etc., so that the advertiser isn't the puppet master anymore.
Well, I can tell you we definitely like to put the three to five in any of our other channels on here that we stream live because we are Scheduled, you know, 11 to 3 is the Alex Jones Show.
3 to 5 is this show.
7 to 8 is the nightly news.
And so that's, what, 4, 5, 6, 7 hours of TV right there every day.
I say TV, and this isn't really TV anymore, but it is.
We definitely are living in this world.
I mean, I don't know how old you look like you're in your late 20s.
26, yeah.
I don't know if you remember the days of, you know, you had to turn a knob to actually get a different channel.
You had to adjust antennas.
The rabbit ears.
I remember the first cable box I saw was this thing that went back and forth and it had 98 channels on it.
That was what you had to wait for something.
Waiting for HBO. When's that show going on?
Now it's on demand.
Now it's on demand.
Whenever you want it, whenever you're capable.
That's what I think the great thing about streaming is now.
It's live and you can watch it when it's live.
You can go back and replay it or you can back it up.
Or do anything like that.
That's what I think the biggest achievement has been.
In this day and age, in terms of getting media out there to people on a, you know, when I need it basis.
Distribution, too.
A menu basis, yeah.
So it really is cool.
What is the next step after, once you get all this video stuff going?
Yes, we do have an Android app, and it's currently in beta, and Google has been okay with us so far.
So next step is shipping it to the store publicly for everybody.
We'll see how that goes.
If not, the great thing about Android is we can just provide the app directly to Android users, and they can sell it without the App Store.
It removes the discoverability of being on the store, which kind of sucks.
Takes away some numbers.
But people can still use the app, right?
Unlike Apple, you can't direct install, which is terrible.
It needs to be on a store.
It needs to be approved by Apple, which is terrible for app developers.
It's a world garden.
Well, we've seen how they just pick and choose.
Oh, we're not going to put...
There was like a Bash Trump thing where you could just pretend, you know, hit him like a whack-a-mole.
And that was totally fine, but they wanted to do the same thing with Hillary Clinton, and they did not let that app...
I mean, it's totally political.
What the hell?
The reality is that there's child porn on Twitter, and Twitter has an iOS app.
ISIS selling weapons, military-grade weapons on Facebook.
I have a Clinton story.
Hillary Clinton spied on her own campaign staff.
Are we shocked about this?
That's how she learned about servers and why she needed to get her own.
In the new book, Shattered, inside Hillary Clinton's doomed campaign, they reveal that she went back to...
The people that worked on her 2008 campaign and grabbed all their email and was keyword searching through it, wanted to find out who was messing with her, who had her lose against Barack Obama.
She can never look at her own self.
Who did this to me?
Even now, it's not her fault.
And we got this other spy news from World Net Daily.
Analysis confirms British role in Trump being spied on.
Who first brought that out?
Anybody?
Andrew Napolitano?
Andrew Napolitano said, hey, it was the GCHQ. Right.
I have it from a source.
They took him off Fox for a little while.
They sent him on vacation.
Yeah.
They said, how dare you?
How dare you bring up the fact that we're spying on people?
And Fox looks more and more like it's being run by liberals.
What is going to happen to Barack Obama?
Getting rid of O'Reilly, I think it's crazy.
Will anything happen to Barack Obama?
But this is, I mean, this is confirmed stuff that we've been talking about.
Right.
But that's why InfoWars has got a low-grade rating, according to Google, because we give you the alternative news.
It wasn't them, though.
It was a vendor.
A vendor named Google Plus.
Yeah, a vendor named Google Shell Corp.
Now we're learning that GCHQ did wire Trump for a year before the election.
Right.
He was not even the GOP nominee yet.
A year before the election.
And this goes back to everything we've been telling people.
We're saying they've been spying on Trump.
We have it from our sources that the NSA have been spying on Trump since 2004. And that was just one page of thousands of pages that they had.
People were looking up themselves.
Everybody's getting spied on.
They would not use the government agencies, these intelligence agencies, for their own political purposes.
They wouldn't do that.
It's against the Constitution.
That's why Obama's hiding off on an island writing his memoir.
Because he doesn't want to get extradited.
Totally, totally crazy.
I got a question for you.
Do you use any of the InfoWars Life products?
Yeah, I actually just had some brain force.
Oh, you did?
Before the show.
Can you feel it going?
Yeah, I mean, I'm definitely not jittery.
It's like a clear focus.
It is.
It's an amazing product.
I have a story that we went and interviewed Louis Farrakhan back in January of 2016. And a week had gone by and we were going to put it out.
We were putting out short videos.
Finally, the day, we're going to launch it on a Tuesday.
Monday night, I was up here all night editing.
I had left for a little while and came back to coaching basketball.
I took two brain force.
I'm like, oh man, I feel like crap.
All of a sudden, 10 minutes later, boom.
I'm editing.
Things are kicking butt.
Josh is over there editing with me.
He goes home about 11 o'clock.
I'm like, eh.
4.30 in the morning, I hit render.
That thing's dumping out.
I'm like, yeah, it got done.
I had it ready for the guys, went home for two hours, woke up, took two more brain force, came back in and celebrated.
It was like a three-hour interview.
This is not the recommended usage, folks, but we're just saying.
If you need to pull it all later, you can.
I took one before I went live with Paul, and mid-interview it kicked in.
I was in the zone.
I was like, oh, this is pretty good.
It's a very clean focus.
And it's all with herbs.
It's not with caffeine or anything like that.
It's just natural herbs that do it.
So go to InfoWarsLife.com as we go to break here.
Thanking our guest, Andrew Torboff, with Gab AI. Go to GabAI.com.
Right now, they're letting people sign up for an account today.
Check it out today.
You can get in, get your account, start gabbing.
Is that what you call it?
Start gabbing.
Start gabbing.
That's good.
Get on there.
They're letting everybody in that calls in today.
So let's break it.
We've broken media websites before.
Let's test your ability to...
I remember.
We'd have people on.
This is back in the day, too.
We'd have some guy on talking about his website.
They go to it.
We try to go to it.
It's gone.
It's crashed.
We crash people's websites all the time.
We scaled up today.
Let's crashgab.ai.
Get your membership today.
Get on there.
Start gabbing.
Let's start spreading news on there because you know the liberals are going to start encroaching on there, getting their little bots.
Oh, they already have.
I mean, listen, we welcome everybody, but...
We're not going to shut it down because you hurt your feelings.
I commend you for developing that.
It's called taking action, folks.
That's how it works.
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Alright, we're going to go to break and when we come back we're going to have more news and Roger Stone will be joining us as well coming up.
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