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Is the Universe a Simulation Created by God
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Hey, Daniels, Infowars.com.
If you don't know who I am, I typically write articles for the website, and you can find me on Twitter at KitDaniel1776 and on Facebook with the same username.
I also do a lot of video reports on Resistance News, Infowars Resistance News.
If you're not following that, you should.
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And a lot of stuff I want to talk about this morning, it is 6 a.m.
Central Standard Time, is Jeb Bush.
How the media has been kind of propping up his dead campaign.
I mean, the guy's like 6th, 7th in the polls, and yet the media's acting like he's still a frontrunner.
So it's really a microcosm of how the establishment puts in these puppet candidates like Jeb Bush that nobody wants, no one cares about, and yet...
We're expected to think that, you know, they're the frontrunners and what have you.
So we're going to go a little bit in that.
And also, Rob Jacobson, who's been a longtime Alex Jones video editor, done Follow the Republic, Police State 4, Rise of FEMA, and Endgame, he's going to be joining me as well to talk about this and more.
And something else I'd like to talk about is the nature of our reality.
Because I was on a Washington Post a couple days ago about, I think it was like some humanists wrote an article about, people are like...
Leaving religions, why are we still subsidizing that through 501c3s?
Even though, technically, that's not really subsidizing.
That's government control, but I digress.
Well, one thing, you know, is I've seen these articles that are about religion on the mainstream media.
There's always, on the comments section, there's always, like, this debate between atheists and Christians and this and that.
And to me, that's a false dilemma because, you know...
It's like this false left-right paradigm, Republicans, Democrat, red team versus blue team, Coke versus Pepe, Ford versus Chevy.
Because, I mean, the nature of reality, I mean, for all we know, the universe could be like a computer simulation.
We could be living in Plato's cave.
So, I mean, that leaves a lot of room for both science and God.
So we're going to be talking about that.
And Rob Jackson's in the studio.
How are you doing this morning?
Hey, Kit.
Thanks for having me this morning.
I'm enjoying the money bomb.
How about yourself?
Good, good.
It's early morning.
It sure is.
So you got a lot of interesting views on Jeb Bush.
So why don't you tell us a little about that?
Well, I kind of feel that Jeb, like a lot of people have been, as a preface here, a lot of people have been saying that Hillary is going to be the chosen one.
She's already been selected, so on and so forth.
And apparently it appears that way because of...
Her kind of shoe-in nature, she has it all set up, ready to go.
Except for this email scandal, it looked like she had the red carpet walking right in.
However, I had the opposite point of view.
I thought it was Jeb, and I still do think it's Jeb that's the chosen person, because of a few reasons.
One, he has older ties with these older European networks.
As well as the CIA and what have you.
Including the CIA, all the intelligence networks, and the banking.
The bankers, including Goldman Sachs, got behind Jeb Bush, which is a very big indicator that while Hillary might be a major player in the major league way, Jeb might be the pick.
Well, what's really a major indicator for me is Jeb Bush is, what, 6th, 7th in the polls?
No one cares about him.
He's been practically outside the political arena for, what, 10, 15 years?
I don't even remember when was the last time he was governor.
He's practically, except for his last name, he's a nobody.
Moralist.
Politically, yeah.
And yet, you see, like, I think I saw in Breitbart where they were, he met with select media before the debate to kind of try to spin what, if he had a dismal debate, kind of spin into good news.
So you see, you got the media kind of like laptop media that's just kind of backing for him.
Exactly.
He's like in the spotlight.
Undeservedly.
For no good reason.
Well, there is a good reason.
It's because the banks, the money people, they basically own all these stations and they're putting their guy forward.
It's pretty obvious.
Yeah, I think it was Jim Mars who said that when he was working as a journalist for the Fort Worth Star-Telegram back in the 80s, he was reading one of those newsletters that employees get, and it said that we were happy to announce that William Casey, who was the owner of the newspaper, a bunch of newspapers at the time, was...
Was just selected to be the next head of the CIA under Reagan.
That's very telling.
You have the head of the CIA who runs a bunch of newspapers.
And that's how they've always done it.
They've done it for decades after decades.
Operation Mockingbird.
Right, and sort of like Dr. Stan Monteith said, you know, it's kind of a controversial statement, but it's something that really lends a lot of credibility to thought.
And that is we have a quote unquote free press in this country, which leaves it free to leave any bit of news out as well that they want.
So when you have a monopoly that owns all of the media, all of the spectrum, they have the right.
That's what it's like six corporations own 90 percent of the media.
Yeah, exactly.
If we had 50 or 100 corporations, it would be a little bit more difficult for these large corporations to just remove large sections of the news.
But now that they dominate everything, they have the freedom to just, oh, that's not news, and it's out, and that's it.
So they've done this for decades, and if they want their players, and obviously Hillary is the same way.
I don't know anybody, not a single person.
That endorses or likes Hillary.
I don't know.
The only people I know are these mystical faces that I see on TV that are arguing for her.
I don't know a single person, but yet there she is.
I don't think there has been a more scandalous person during an election than Hillary Clinton, but there she is, is number one.
The entire Democratic Party is postponing debates because she doesn't want to be in them.
It's very telling when you get the head of the DNC, like, just...
Hugging her and saying, oh, we're not going to have any debates until like November or whenever.
Yeah, look, a scandalous woman like this who has a trail of dead bodies behind her shouldn't be a number one.
I actually got to meet her last year.
Remember right before you and me went on that trip down in the South Texas to cover the border?
The day before was like a Friday.
And Hillary was here in Austin to visit at Book People to do a book signing over downtown Austin.
And so we stood in line, me and David Knight, we stood in line.
It was really, we're only really that many people there.
I mean, I've been to Ron Paul events that are way, way bigger than that.
And I imagine even Bernie Sanders events.
If Bernie Sanders came to book sign in Austin, I hate to say it, but he'd have way more people than Hillary did.
Well, I actually don't really hate to say that.
But yeah, so I got to meet her and, you know, it's like, I told Alex this on air because we were on air the next Sunday.
Meeting her was kind of like that scene in The Empire Strikes Back when Luke goes into that cave in Dagobah and encounters Darth Vader.
That's literally what it felt like to me.
It was weird.
I don't know how to explain it.
I just had to chill up my spine.
Man, I have a chill up my spine just thinking about standing on line to meet her.
The woman is frightening.
She's a frightening woman.
She literally has, I mean...
Here's an old woman with a trail of dead bodies behind her.
Yeah, literally.
And she's running for president?
And she's the frontrunner?
I mean, here's what I'm saying to the Democratic National Convention.
If she doesn't want to debate, fine.
Just carry the debates on, but they cancel the debate because she doesn't want to debate?
What does that even mean?
I mean, if she doesn't want to debate, fine, she's out.
But they're going to postpone?
I mean, I don't even...
See how that's a logical or not a telling move on behalf of the establishment.
Yet at the same time, as much push, I still think the pick of the actual globalists, the entire whatever, the conglomeration of all the globalist societies, the elitists, the Bilderbergs.
I think that the choice is Jeb.
It's not an election.
Yeah, there's two things I noticed.
Even within the globalists, they're kind of divided.
They kind of get civil wars at times.
Right now, what we see is we kind of have this old guard with the Clintons, but then we also see this new guard with Obama and even Biden, I would think.
So they kind of have this infighting going on, but at the same time, you also have Jeb Bush, and he serves the same interests as Hillary Clinton.
So it doesn't matter if Hillary, to the globalists, that Hillary gets burnt on the stake.
You know, destroys your career because they still got Jeb Bush.
Jeb Bush is, you know, he's part of this old established family.
And the other thing is, you know, a lot of people say that Hillary might be a loose cannon to them.
I mean, here's a scandalous criminal woman who may not want to go along with the program.
I believe it was Joel Skousen who said...
She may actually believe herself to be the president.
She probably thinks she's already president.
Right, exactly.
She may maybe not want to do a couple of things that the higher-ups of her position may request of her.
Just think of it this way.
It's like she almost thinks she's president with all the email scandal.
She acts like she's already above the law.
Just imagine what she'd be like if she was president.
Right now, I mean, you asked Chelsea the wrong question.
They delete your video.
I didn't even know that.
You get tackled at the bookstore.
You just ask her, Annie, Chelsea, what do you think about your mom running for president?
Whoa!
You know, you're getting tackled at the bookstore.
And this woman wants to run for president.
I mean, could you imagine the level of...
Obama's security team was over the top.
It was like 75, you know, secured cars that would follow him.
I don't know.
It's funny to me.
If people ask me what the globalists are, what's the New World Order and this and that, the best way, I think, to define it is that the New World Order really represents neo-feudalism.
They want to take us back to the feudalist days right before the Renaissance.
Exactly.
We actually talk about that in our film, Endgame, how the New World Order is the Old World Order.
You know, that's exactly their plan.
They want a feudal system.
I don't think they've ever believed the feudal system has ever truly ended.
It just sort of got compromised by some sort of, you know, American experiment.
Yeah.
And now they want it all back for themselves.
They believe there should be a rightful aristocracy class.
And there should be, you know...
I mean, the Federal Reserve System is just a new style of serfdom.
Exactly.
Probably even worse.
Yeah, then there's the serfdom, which is all of us.
And what's interesting to me is, I read a book once about the serfdom back, I think, in Western Europe.
And then also, I think Eastern Europe was, they had a serfdom later on.
But what was really telling to me was that serfs, typically, they usually...
They were born in one place, and they lived and died within a mile of where they were born.
They hardly ever traveled.
Same thing with deer.
I mean, white-tailed deer here in Texas, you know, they say the same thing.
Deer usually don't leave a mile from where they were born.
And the reason I bring this up is it's just like Agenda 21. You know, neo-feudalism.
They want you kind of contained in this little coffin apartment.
You know, it's like a two-, three-story condo with residential below, and they don't want to...
They want to get you out of the car.
They want you to ride a bicycle.
They want you controlled, just like back in the day, where you typically won't even go further than a couple of miles from your neighborhood.
Of course.
I mean, look at all these plans that they have for Agenda 21. They want to start the Trans-Pacific Corridor.
The North American Corridor, excuse me.
And what is that all about?
That's about limiting transportation and making it selective just for an elite class that can move their stuff from port all over the country and limit our own access to the same exact transportation, which will keep us in our little ways.
And they're also promoting stuff like, you know, other things like they're trying to, or at least they used to try to wall off cities and all these other schemes to basically keep people where it puts.
Stay put.
Yeah, absolutely.
Briefly, you know, I was at a bar a couple years ago here in Austin, and a bartender kind of told me, he's like, hey, you know, I used to listen to the show, but I kind of felt helpless about it at all, so I stopped listening.
I get that a lot, because I get people that are like, well, we know about what's going on, but what can we do about, you know, solutions?
You know, personally, I can't...
I can't stop the globalists.
I can't stop Jett Bush.
I can't stop Hillary Clinton all by myself.
But one thing I will tell you is the fact that by learning about all this stuff, my life has improved tremendously.
You know, for example, I stopped, you know, taking fluoride.
I've got a fluoride filter for my water.
My head started getting clearer, less foggy.
You know, like before when I was on fluoride and all this other garbage they put in food.
I can't even remember stuff that happened to me five, ten years ago.
It's just a haze.
It's almost like it was a previous life.
But once I learned about listening to this program, listening about how to stop drinking fluoride and GMOs and whatnot, I cleaned up my diet.
And so that definitely improved.
And I stopped using a cell phone holding it up to my hair.
I started using an earpiece.
And also, I stopped using cell phones and internet right before bed because...
From this broadcast, I learned that it kind of screws with your pineal gland and keeps you from having a good night's sleep.
So that's also as well.
So this is something I think you'd appreciate, Jacobson.
This is one of my favorite quotes from Carl Jung.
He said that one does not become enlightened by imagining figures of light, but by making the darkness conscious.
What do you think about that?
I think that goes along with the whole Carl Jungian theory of exploring your unconscious, you know, learning who your shadow self is, so on and so forth.
You'll never know who you truly are unless you explore the dark side of yourself and bring it to light.
Well, you know, I bring it up because to me, I take the quoting further than that.
It's like I see that as being conscious of the darkness of the new world order, the globalist, the world self.
So, I mean, and this is probably about the first media operation I've ever been around that's kind of taken on the New World Order, the globalists, what have you.
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So, moving on, Jacobson.
The real reason I brought you in here is, well, first, when I think about it, let's keep going on with Jeb Bush.
You know, the way I describe Jeb Bush is kind of like Weekend at Bernie's, where it's like he's got a dead candidacy.
And yet the media is just propping him up along, you know, taking his body and putting him up on podium.
Not only lifeless candidacy, lifeless almost.
I mean, the guy is like uncharismatic as it could get.
Oh, yeah.
He even looks coached.
It's like, it looks like he just got out of a class on how to public speaking at college.
He doesn't look comfortable.
He just like...
Teleprompter, teleprompter, teleprompter.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
He even said when I believe it was the first debate, is anybody nervous?
He was the first to jump out.
I am, you know, the first one to jump out and reveal that he actually was.
He does look like they all talk about his campaign strategy, and he's sitting right outside the door listening in, like, can I come in yet, guys?
Not yet, Jeb.
We're not discussing what you're going to do.
It does look like that, and there he is.
As the frontrunner, he's center stage every single day.
It's like the media is telling us he's a frontrunner, but he's really not.
Right, exactly.
We're supposed to believe it.
Again, I don't know anybody who's really serious about voting for Jeb Bush.
I have never met anybody passionate about Jeb.
Let's talk briefly a little bit about Donald Trump, the real frontrunner that people will actually vote for.
Yesterday, he was talking about vaccines.
They brought up the vaccine issue.
And I think Dave Knight really appreciated this was the fact that he said that, you know, it's like we're pumping all these babies up with vaccines.
Even if the vaccines are good, it's like, why are we pumping up all these babies like they're a horse?
That's true.
I think Trump made a big move by putting that issue on the national stage.
You know, there's no taking that back.
Everybody heard it.
And he put it out there.
So kudos to him.
You know, if he's going to have that kind of...
Exposure.
Might as well say some good words as well as whatever else he's going to say.
We got that clip, right, guys?
All right.
Yeah, just one second.
They got the clip of Trump and talking about the vaccine debate yesterday.
All right, yeah, if we go ahead and play that.
Hey, let's go to what they're saying right now because Donald Trump is making an epic statement about the connection of autism and vaccines.
And I've seen it.
And I had my children taken care of over a long period of time, over a two or three year period of time.
Same exact amount.
But you take this little beautiful baby and you pump.
I mean, it looks just like it's meant for a horse, not for a child.
And we've had so many instances, people that worked for me, just the other day, two years old, two and a half years old, a child, a beautiful child, went to have the vaccine and came back and a week later got a tremendous fever, got very, very sick.
This is great.
He's doing a great job.
Thank you, Donald.
I'm in favor of vaccines.
I've got to say thank you for this.
Same amount.
Thank you.
Just in little sections.
And that's what I said earlier.
I agree on that.
Excellent.
Excellent.
I think you're going to see a big impact on autism.
Dr. Carson, you're going to hear Ben Carson jump in.
Nailed it.
Good job.
He didn't backtrack.
I like that.
That's right.
He's an okay doctor.
Okay.
Oh, yeah.
Trust me because I'm a doctor.
Come on.
I don't want to hear that.
Yeah.
I don't want to hear that.
I can read the stuff myself, Dr. Ben Carson.
Right.
Read the Constitution, jerk, if you're going to run for president.
There's no autism associated with vaccinations.
But it is true.
Documented proof by our paid off scientists.
Paid off by Big Pharma.
Now recognize that and I think are cutting down on the number.
And the proximity in which those are done.
And that's all I'm saying, Jake.
That's all I'm saying.
Now they're saying autism is caused by...
Hey, let's understand.
Yeah, let's understand we have such a thing called informed consent unless we're their slaves, too.
One of the greatest medical discoveries of all time were the vaccines, particularly for smallpox.
And if you want to read a story, it's called The Speckled Monster.
It's an amazing story.
It was all done voluntarily, but people came in by the droves.
George Washington wouldn't let his wife visit until she got vaccinated.
So I'm all for vaccines, but I'm also for freedom.
I'm also a little concerned about how they're bunched up.
My kids had all of their vaccines, and even if the science doesn't say bunching them up's a problem, I ought to have the right to spread my vaccines out a little bit at the very least.
That's right.
Informs consent.
Coming up, Jake.
I'm sorry, Governor Huckabee, please.
You know what?
I disagree with Rand Paul on vaccines, but he nailed it because as a president, what his responsibility is, is not to decide.
Even if he is a doctor, his responsibility is not to decide what's the best for us and make us do it.
Right.
It's his responsibility to make sure he maintains our freedom to make that decision.
It's my job as a person to decide if I want to have a beer, if I decide if I want to go smoke pot, if I want to take a vaccination.
It's up to me to decide what goes in my body.
That's right.
Not some president, not some dictator who thinks they can tell me what I can or can't do.
That's right.
It should be up to me.
That's the freedom.
That's what America's supposed to be about.
And just like Carson, he's like, yeah, maybe we should space him out a little bit more.
But what about all the people who took him before that?
Who are suffering the ill effects of having these things bang, bang, bang come through in such a sight.
And you're not going to hear all these people who are now singing the praises of vaccines, even Rand Paul and Huckabee.
You're not going to hear them talking about polio, polio, polio.
You're not going to hear them talking about SV40, simian virus number 40, which was put into the vaccines, adulterating the vaccines, exactly, causing, and they admitted this, causing cancer.
They still continue to use it even after they knew they'd contaminated the vaccines with it.
All right, that was a clip of Donald Trump talking about the vaccines at the presidential debate at the Reagan Library last night.
And what I like about it is you got the vaccine debate.
Political, it's back in the forefront of politics.
It's definitely a presidential issue.
Now, Rob Jakeson, what do you think about that?
Like I said, it's great that they put it at the center stage.
It's good that Trump talked about that during the debate.
I also agree with what David Knight said.
His commentary was right on the ball.
If we're mandated to take vaccines, as Carson suggests, it's a medical tyranny.
I mean, that's not what this country is about.
Yeah, it's all about control.
It's like, my problem is, even if the vaccines are good, and a lot of times they're not, only because they put all these additives in the vaccines that are deadly.
Yeah, it's unthinkable that they would mandate that you put something in your veins.
Yeah, but it goes right back to the serfdom where we were talking about the feudalism.
It's like...
If they're mandating that you put all this stuff in your body, I mean, you're a slave.
Whose body is it?
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, it's like they're worried about their whole thing about, oh, well, you got to take the vaccines to stop pandemics from happening, this and that.
What about the pandemic of the government?
You know, the largest murder in the world's history has always been governments.
You know, I think what the whole democide is like, what, 250 million people in the past?
A couple centuries?
Yeah, probably more.
Way more in the past couple of centuries.
And if the vaccine thing passes where it's mandatory, that number is just going to skyrocket again, which is their goal.
It's just all about making money.
It's about making money and basically reducing populations on an engineered scale.
They engineer, try to hurt people.
It's what they're into.
That's what they try to do.
They're into it.
They're relentless.
And maybe Ben Carson is part of this.
Maybe he doesn't understand.
Maybe he's just, oh, I'm a doctor.
And he doesn't know much about the Constitution and what civil liberties really mean.
Or maybe he knows very well what he's engaging in.
Either which way, should that man's agenda be put into action, a lot more people will die.
And get very, very ill from these vaccines.
And I say this because of their past performance of killing people and making people very, very sick.
Yeah, absolutely.
Now, the reason I requested you right now is I kind of want to talk about kind of the nature of reality.
You know, I saw this clip that Philip K. did a couple of years before he died.
He was at a science fiction convention.
And he claimed that a lot of the ideas he got for a lot of his stories was...
Because he kind of felt like he was living in a false reality.
And I say that, it's kind of like if we're living in a simulation.
And, I mean, we got that clip ready, guys?
Alright, yeah, if we could play that.
In novel after novel, story after story, to name two in which this prior ugly present obtained most clearly, I cite The Man in the High Castle and my 1974 novel about the U.S. as a police state, called Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said.
I'm going to be very candid with you.
I wrote both novels based on fragmentary residual memories of such a horrid slave state world.
People claim to remember past lives.
I claim to remember a different, very different, present life.
I know of no one who has ever made this claim before, but I rather suspect that my experience is not unique.
What perhaps is unique is the fact that I am willing to talk about it.
We are living in a computer-programmed reality, and the only clue we have to it is when some variable is changed and some alteration in our reality occurs.
We would have the overwhelming impression that we were reliving the present déjà vu.
Perhaps in precisely the same way, hearing the same words, saying the same words, I submit that these impressions are valid and significant.
And I will even say this, such an impression is a clue that at some past time point, a variable was changed, reprogrammed as it were, and that because of this, an alternative world branched off.
All right, you saw that clip from Philip K. Dick.
And the reason I play it is because I think about 25 years later, Paul Joseph Watson, 2013, he reported on this thing the University of Bonn discovered where they realized the cosmic rays hitting the Earth were very uniform.
And it gave us like...
Probably the best proof that we have that maybe the universe is kind of like a simulation that was artificially structured.
So let's play that clip.
A recent scientific study undertaken by the University of Bonn in Germany suggests that the universe could be one giant computer simulation.
Moore's law dictates that computing power doubles approximately every two years.
And eventually we're going to reach the stage where Computers can artificially create a virtual reality which is indistinguishable from our own, which begs the question, how do we know it hasn't already been done?
You've probably heard of Plato's allegory of the cave, the limitation of people's perceptions and sensual ability, restricted to make them believe in a reality.
Now, this is the cosmic incarnation of that principle.
Here's Wired magazine.
Cosmic rays offer clue our universe could be a computer simulation.
If recent measurements of cosmic ray particles are correct, then we may have the first evidence that the universe as we know it is really a giant computer simulation.
And basically what these scientists discovered is that when cosmic rays fly through the universe, the energy that they lose is, quote, consistent with the kind of boundary that you'd find if there was an underlying lattice governing consistent with the kind of boundary that you'd find if there was an underlying lattice And in this article, they make an analogy with a chessboard.
Cosmic rays behave like...
You can't move them less than one whole space on this lattice structure which they've measured.
So these uniform rules governing the movement and behaviour of cosmic rays suggest that they are performing as they would if they were trapped inside a giant simulation.
Now they've only got the computing power at present to test this on a tiny scale.
So it's far from conclusive.
But the early indications really do suggest that our entire universe could be nothing more than a computer-generated simulation.
And the new scientist interviewed Silas Bean, the chief scientist there at the University of Bonn, involved in this project.
And the article concludes that, quote, The answer, statistically speaking, is that we're more likely to be living in a simulation.
Now, you saw that clip, and what really interests me about it is that you have this researcher that says that, yes, we're most likely living in a simulation.
You also see astrophysicists that kind of push this idea of multiverses, that we have parallel universes and that.
And I like these concepts, but the problem is that...
Scientists can never prove this.
You know, it's not something you can prove.
What's that word I'm looking for?
It starts with an E. Empirically.
So they're speculating.
But then you see all these secularists attacking Christians and saying, oh, you're speculating.
You can never prove God.
So it's like we got this weird thing where it's like there's this false dilemma between scientists and Christians.
But...
They're doing this.
It's like the scientists are basically doing what they're accusing the Christians of doing.
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Now, Rob Jacobson, so, you know, you introduced me to this book earlier this year that kind of got me interested in this whole concept, and I didn't finish the book, unfortunately.
You gave me crap for that, but...
That's what, really what I got out of the book is this author complained that, you know, you got all these astrophysicists that are just speculating.
Yeah, these guys are, just to clear up what we're talking about, first of all, the book that we're talking about is called Farewell to Reality by Jim Baggett, and I really enjoyed this book.
It's a very interesting read.
He basically clears up what we do know about physics and what we don't know about physics and what the difference between actual physics and science is and what Bagot himself considers to be quote-unquote fairy tale physics.
And he makes it very clear that while, you know, concepts like particle physics is very real, we could experiment and have empirical evidence of the results of these experiments.
It's just a theory, and it always has been a theory.
And these scientists have been speculating over this stuff for decades, not for a few years, since around the 60s.
They started really going hot and heavy about the string theory, and they still haven't stopped.
I mean, we have celebrity physicists like Brian Greene, who still publish book after book, talking about string theory.
I mean, he never says that there's any proof to any multiverse or anything like that or M theory or membranes or anything like this that is a result of string theory.
All they know is that there's a mathematical phenomenon going on and it's producing what is called these Calabiao shapes, multi, 10-dimensional shapes.
Through mathematical equations.
And that's as far as we got.
And they say, because these mathematical equations forming these geometrical shapes are possible, therefore our universe is made of ten dimensions.
But it goes further than that.
They're saying since there are multiple of these different shapes that are formed, that means that there must be multiple universes formed.
It's a guess, basically, what they're doing.
They're making it up.
There's no way to test for another universe.
I mean, what are we going to send?
Some kind of, you know, probe into space, never to see it again?
Go through the quote-unquote portal, which we know there, or some say they are attempting to open next week at CERN, the giant science project that goes on, you know, the Large Hadron Collider.
It's interesting you bring that up because it kind of reminds me of what they call the Fermi Paradox, where it's like, We only have five senses as human beings.
There could be way more out there that we can't sense, we can't perceive.
I mean, it's like, you know, what the Fermi Paradox was basically, let me read this.
I found an interesting article on ImageGurr, strangely enough, that said, define the Fermi Paradox as, let's say that we have an anthill in the middle of the forest, and right next to the anthill, we're building a 10-lane superhighway.
And the question is, would the ants be able to understand what a 10-lane superhighway is?
Would the ants be able to understand the technology and the intentions of the beings building the highway next to them?
Exactly.
And that brings us back to the original point, which is, you know, is it possible that we're living in some kind of elaborate computer simulation?
That reminds me of a Star Trek Next Generation episode I saw as a kid where it's like they...
Some guy came alive from the hologram, right?
And he tried to take over the ship.
But they tricked him into living in a simulation within the hologram where he thought he was free and he was traveling the universe, but he was in a simulation the entire time.
It's just like, I think the episode was called Ship in a Bottle, which I thought was very fitting.
It's like, how do we know that our universe, our reality...
It's contained in a superstructure itself.
I mean, that really fits in really well with Christianity and other world religions that were a structure within a structure.
And it was like Immanuel Kant who brought up the point.
He saw that they were going to try to use reason to destroy religion.
But he brought up the point that where does mathematics come from?
Where does morality come from?
He said that it was wise to assume that there was a God because...
You'd assume there was a morality somewhere.
Even with world religions, you could have a native tribe that's lost out in Southeast Asia that's never heard Christianity or anything like that.
But what we have is cultures that still have what we call kind of an absolute morality where various cultures in the world that even if they don't communicate with one another, they still have these strange similarities in morality.
Like, for example, lying and being a coward.
That's not seen as a virtue in any culture in the world, as far as I know.
I mean, it's true, and as long as we constrict our thoughts to, oh, the status quo, and oh, that's impossible, and, you know, I know from a textbook that this guy said this, we'll never be able to...
Well, I mean, as individuals, maybe one or two of us will be able to, you know, expand our minds to the fact that we can think about these things and say, okay, is it possible?
I'm not uncomfortable to think about the fact that we may be in a computer simulation.
That's just kind of a strange concept for a lot of people, probably.
However, you know, if you don't engage in that kind of thinking, if you don't engage in this kind of out-of-the-box thinking, which might actually be true.
That's the problem with science right now.
We've got too much of this dogma.
I mean, you hear Darwinism, but you don't hear something similar called Einsteinism or Newtonism because Darwinism has an ideology behind it that goes beyond science.
It's about attacking Christianity.
Exactly.
It's as deep as any religion there is.
Yeah.
Even though, strangely enough, the people, the biggest proponents of evolution back when Darwin came out with this theory was actually Christians.
We were like, wow, this is telling us how God did this, you know?
And I don't think if there's anything in the Bible...
Refutes it, you know, as far as I know.
I mean, it's like, as far as I know, it just says that we came from dust and we returned the dust.
Now, I do have secular issues with evolution.
I'm sure you do as well.
Well, of course.
I mean, first of all, I believe there was an experiment in the early 30s which actually challenged Darwin's theory entirely, which had to do with stick bugs, stick insects.
And they proved by cutting open these birds' bellies, Like 60,000 of them or something, that the bird selected the hidden twig insect just as readily as it selected every other insect to eat.
Therefore, the assumption that it changed its form to hide in the tree to protect itself was proven wrong.
So, I mean, that experiment right there really challenges Darwin's theory as actually being even scientifically credible at all.
But here we are in the universities.
If you don't believe in Darwinism, you are going to be blacklisted.
Hey, you told me you visited, I think, a Smithsonian, right?
Where it was like the whole evolutionary exhibit was like just paintings.
If you ever go, and I'm sure there's plenty, anybody who ever goes into the basement or the evolution section of the Museum of Natural History, get ready for an Orwell.
I mean, here we have velvet rope protecting murals on a wall of...
As if they're actual museum exhibits, here's an artist's rendition of, you know, anthropological, whatever, those prehistoric men that they say, quote unquote, are the missing link.
And it's like, and now for the ultimate proof, the bones of Lucy.
And you have like these three little trinket bones and this thick glass.
And you're supposed to believe that this woman or this...
A fragment of a skeleton represents our collection of scientific knowledge on how we move from the apes all the way up to humanity.
Well, what I found interesting is the scientists, they'll get a fossil and they'll debate over whether it's a new species or if it's a subspecies.
It's just...
Arbitrary.
Right.
And it comes down to the fact that they, you know, at the end of the day, when a new piece of evidence or a new piece of scientific fact comes into play, they're going to speculate just like everybody else, ad nauseum, but they're going to pat each other on the back just like, doctor, doctor.
Like, their little degree over there earns them some sort of, oh, your words, even though they're wrong, but they're credible.
You know, it doesn't make any sense.
We live in this paradigm of licensed deception.
You know, if you get the right license, you could deceive people and it's acceptable.
So, you know, that's where we are, especially scientists and others.
Yeah, I don't really have a problem with a lot of what they're pushing, but it's like, how do you know what they're pushing is real or not?
It's like we're being told it's real when reality is.
They're just speculating like anybody else.
And at the end of the day, when the rubber hits the road, we look at where does science take us?
Okay, we get technology.
And most of our technology, the way I see it right now, is detrimental and wasting our time.
Like phones that connect us and spy on us.
Yeah, we get a lot of gizmos on it, but...
Is this really the advancement we were looking for as mankind?
I mean, shouldn't we be off the power grid already?
Shouldn't we all have our own independent water systems?
Yeah, and so we got three-year-olds that are losing their eyesight because they're on the cell phones all day.
Exactly.
Is this really the technology, the progression that we were looking for?
Is this somebody else's...
You know, sick idea of progression.
Well, the rest of us are still on the power grid.
We still are on the water grid.
You know, none of us, we still have municipal water and there are still people like, oh, don't put this in the water.
Don't put that in the water.
Well, if we all had the technology to be off the water grid, we wouldn't have to petition these criminal politicians who are not going to stop putting fluoride in the water.
They're criminals.
You could petition criminals up and down until you're blue in the face.
It's amazing to me that so many people, they watch TV or they watch movies and this and that.
I do too, so don't get me wrong.
Right.
It's like, people are like, oh, we're so bored, you know?
We gotta go and watch a movie.
The whole reality we live in is way bigger than any other movie I've ever seen.
Right now I'm reading a book on Hernan Cortes and the conquistadors and how they kind of took over the Aztec empire.
I'm in like a third chapter of the book.
I'm like, this is way more amazing than any movie I've ever seen.
Yeah, every bit of a history book I ever read is far more absorbing because somehow it's real.
It's real.
And you get a sense that no...
Man, no human could have thought up this story.
There's something greater about the story.
That's what I feel about the Bible, now that you bring it up.
It's like, if you reject the Bible, obviously you kind of have to reject the fact that whoever wrote it was lying or they were just making stuff up.
And I'm like, when you read it, I don't get that at all.
No, no.
Exactly.
You get the sense of a larger...
And I don't mean to dumb it down a little bit, but...
You know, last year reading a bunch of books, I took kind of a break and went to a few fictional novels.
And the contrast was amazing because the fictional novels that I read were like paper thin, even though they're very celebrated novels, very popular.
It was like this paper thin.
You could even, you could tell that...
I mean, even though it's like, oh, it's such a wide world this person wrote, and everybody loves it, and so on and so forth, and there are so many characters, it's nothing compared to actual history.
Like, it's as light as a feather compared to reading a real book.
Yeah.
Yeah, and now you bring up books, video games as well.
I saw some videos on...
Minecraft.
Have you ever heard of that game?
I've heard of it, yeah.
Yeah, so basically, you kind of, you got these, you're a player in the game, you can build, this whole world in Minecraft is like built out of like, it's like a simulation of the planet Earth.
It's all built out like, it's like Legos, but it's like built like 140 some different blocks.
You know, you got iron blocks, gold blocks, grass blocks, water blocks, all this.
You kind of mine through it all and get resources.
But what I realized when I was watching this video on YouTube of the game is that And I actually did some research on the game.
The game world is like randomly created every time you start a new game.
It's by computer algorithms.
And you kind of have this thing where it's like set up with different biomes.
You got desert biome where it's like a desert area where you see more sand blocks.
You got ocean biome.
That's all ocean biome.
And you see fish, aquatic life.
And what was interesting to me was the fact that a game world, when they generate it, it's eight times the size of planet Earth.
I mean, there's even a YouTube video series on YouTube, obviously.
Kind of said it double there.
Where this guy, like, he walked for 30 days straight, like, in-game.
Like, it took him 30 days worth of time in the game.
So it took him probably six, eight months playing two, three hours a day to go from one side of the game world to the other.
And what interests me is that no matter how far you go, it's kind of the same blocks generated.
What does that remind you of?
The universe.
Where it's like astrophysics say that the elements that we found on planet Earth are just like no different than anywhere else in the universe.
Yeah.
You know, there's a lot of mysteries and a lot of like things we don't understand.
In fact, let me refer to this book.
Yeah.
Because there's a, he puts an interesting list that I kind of marked out over here of six, what he calls the Goldilocks enigma.
You know, there are six.
Enigmas, you know, mysteries that he basically lists in this.
What's the author's name, by the way?
Again, this is Jim Baggett, and it's called Farewell to Reality.
And he talks about, you know...
The ratio, the force of the electromagnetic force.
He talks about density parameter ratio.
He talks about a cosmological constant.
And basically the point of all this is, if any one of these single constants were not even a...
It's a fraction out of place, including, you know, and he goes on and on.
There's a few of them.
There's six of them he lifts.
And if any one of these is knocked out of place, even by a hair, life would not even exist in this universe as far as we can tell.
And those constants must remain.
It's funny you bring this up because I was reading, I think it's like Richard Dawkins and all of them, they kind of brought up this theory that out of response to the fact that...
The universe seems to be designed for life.
It's like, well, this could be one of millions of universes.
And the universes, there's lots of universes that just don't support life at all.
It's just by chance.
They're basically saying there's just like an evolution, survival of the universe.
Or we just so happen to witness life in this universe because we happen to be alive.
These are creative people making up creative excuses to keep a job.
I mean, let's be real.
I mean, they're like, oh my god, my theory's falling apart.
I may have to get work in another place soon.
I got it.
I got it.
There's millions of dead universes.
We only know life because we live in one of the living ones.
I mean, this is really what these people...
That's speculation all over again.
It's not just speculation.
And they talk crap to people for believing about God.
Yeah, it's beyond speculation.
It's actually damaging thought.
I mean, it's mental illness is what that is, for real, because they're not adding anything to the dialogue by saying, well, maybe we...
Maybe in other universes, you know...
Gravity works opposite.
Let's have 50 years of scientific speculation.
But where's the gravity code?
Where's all the stuff?
What's the source code for a universe?
We have all these what they call natural laws, but what's telling all these natural laws to be that way?
Exactly, exactly.
And, you know, if we have to go along with the status quo and say, oh, no, no, let's look at the, whatever they call it, the theory of the multiverse where we're the living one and there's a bunch of dead ones and it just so happens to be that.
We'll never, ever get to the actual meat of the problem, which is what you're suggesting.
Why are there these cosmological constants all over the place that are imperative for us to be alive?
Why?
We won't know that if we spend 50 years writing thousands of books on the string theory.
We'll be wasting probably all of our great minds.
It's like Einstein wasted half his life looking for that constant, right?
Yeah, yeah.
He's looking for the universal...
The universal constant that melded the quantum theory with his theory of relativity.
And he never discovered it.
But he really wanted to.
And it's just like this.
I mean, at least Einstein was looking for something that might be real in this universe as opposed to an imaginary universe.
Yeah, it's like science.
By its definition, science is atheistic in the fact that you're looking at for natural...
Explanations for things but then they try to go beyond that where it's like they're using science to explain What's outside the universe?
Oh, there's nothing out there.
Their own speculation.
Their own imagination.
Yeah, it's philosophy.
That's not science.
No, it could be philosophy.
I'm talking about materialism.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, yeah.
Is multiverse even a philosophy or is it more of a mathematical phenomenon?
Yeah, it's just a game in your head.
Yeah, who knows?
But the thing is, is they've wasted so much time really like, oh, we must find the multiverse.
We're on to something.
We're on to something.
And they were on to nothing.
And they really wasted a lot of people's time for 50 years.
It could have been a subsubject.
Now what's going on in science is they're about to fire off the CERN Large Hadron Collider, and that's going to go on next week.
And as we all know, what they do is they get two hadron particles, usually protons, and they propel them towards each other.
Near light speeds, and next week it's going to be the highest energy rating they've ever tried to fire it off in the history of CERN, the history of, you know, particle accelerators.
And so, you know, some people that, one CERN scientist was saying, you know, this could possibly open a portal in which we could observe if a particle of the portal, the other dimension comes through.
So now all you have these string theorists, right?
Crossing their fingers.
You have all these people right now, I'm telling you, they're right now crossing their fingers because this is their...
And it says...
Bagot actually mentions the experiment in this book.
And look how old this book is.
He actually mentions the experiment they're about to fire off next week in this book.
And he says this is the string theory's final chance for them to prove one way, finally one way or another, whether string theory is real or not.
Because if a portal opens up...
It'll probably end up being a portal to hell and all these stuff.
It'd be like Doom, that video game Doom where all these like...
Freaking devils and stuff keep coming out.
Yeah, the door will open up, and yeah, there's your multiverse.
Welcome.
I mean, these people are literally playing with fire, but it's like, and you know how hot that Large Hadron Collider gets.
These people are playing with super fire, you know?
There's another theory that I want to briefly mention.
Let's see if I can find it.
I've got them all written down.
It's called the transition hypothesis where it's basically once intelligence gets obviously intelligent enough it's like they create a black hole and they leave our visible macro universe.
So basically what this theory is suggesting is we can't see a lot of life out in the universe because once life gets highly advanced enough they're disappearing somewhere else and that's why all the black holes are just remnants of them.
But I bring this up because it's like CERN, it's going to end up making a black hole, but it's not because we're going to go somewhere better.
Right.
I mean, I can't even imagine.
I mean, these people must be drunk with power right now.
They must be...
Yeah, it's like, oh, yeah, we don't know what's going to happen, but let's just do it anyway.
Yeah, sort of like...
I think it was like the atomic test where they weren't even sure.
They were like, this might even blow a hole in the world.
They thought it was going to set fire to the entire atmosphere.
It's like, oh, well, we got funding, so we got to do it anyway.
That's how destructive, that's what goes back to what I was saying earlier about a democide.
That's how destructive government is.
Well, it's sort of like these scientists get so obsessed and so absorbed in their work, in their project, to find the answer, to get to the end result, to finish the project.
They forget the ethical issues with the project in the course of actually creating it.
Yeah, so it goes back to this great filter thing.
It's like they say that, well, why can't we see, why don't we notice any life out in the universe?
Maybe there was life, but they all had governments just like ours.
Right, exactly.
And they created CERN, and they all got sucked into the portal, you know?
Maybe these string theorists.
And that's the other thing.
You know, if these string theorists are such experts, wouldn't you think that they would have some sort of air of safety about them?
Hey, hey, hey.
I know about hot water.
Don't put your hand in the hot water.
Or, I know about this.
Don't do that.
I am an expert of string theory.
Don't open a portal to another dimension.
You might be sucking all the air out of this universe.
Yeah, just like in space balls.
Yeah.
You might be a particle that might fly through that portal that doesn't match the dimensions and physics of our universe, creating a who knows what.
Why aren't these people saying, wait, stop, stop.
There just might be another thing, but wait.
We don't know.
We know enough about this stuff.
All we know are these stupid equations and these shapes, these hundreds of thousands of shapes, and the M theory, and membrane theory, and every one of these theories are speculation.
Every one of these theories is, for example...
It's like derivatives.
It's like the banking derivatives.
They create a banking product and then they derive other products off of that to make more money off of the original investment.
It's the same thing with string theory.
They come out with one theory and one theory because it's a mathematical, it's like...
It's like mathematically, you know, perfect, beautiful or whatever they want to describe it.
They then find other theories and other mathematical theories to build on top of it.
And before you know it, they have this pile of derived theories, M theory, this theory, that all started with string theory.
And it is, you know, wadded up all of our scientific knowledge, all of our resources when it comes to thought and discovery in humanity.
And really gave us what we're going to witness next week, which is these people drunk with power, you know, delusional.
There we go, but 15 seconds left.
All right, well, they're going to fire off a dangerous weapon or a dangerous weapon.
It might be the last time you and I talk to each other.
Could be.
See you on the other side.
All right.
Farewell.
Well, appreciate your time, Jacobson.
Thank you, Kit, for having me today.
- Okay. - Yep. - All right, welcome back to the Info Wars Money Bomb 2015.
I'm your host, Kit Daniels.
I'm mainly a writer for the website.
I also do some video reports.
You can find those on YouTube at Resistance News.
And I'm joined by my fellow writer, Mikhail Thalen.
How are you doing?
Pretty good, Kit.
How about yourself?
Good, good.
So I wanted to talk to you about this whole, you're basically a, I think what you'd call a security expert online, correct?
That's one of the things I mentioned.
Yeah, definitely.
And also, so I wanted to bring up this whole thing about the Stasi.
Recently in the news, you know, you saw the whole migrant crisis from Europe coming over from Syria and whatnot, even the law of men are not even from Syria.
So they're flooding into Germany because Germany is one of the countries that have given free welfare, free goodies, whatnot.
But now the Germans, like the native Germans, are all freaking out because...
You know, all of a sudden they got like millions of refugees that are in their country.
They're likely not going to simulate their own welfare.
They're probably not going to be able to get jobs.
They're not really, they just don't really mesh well with the country.
And they're even telling like school, they're like, they're having these refugees camps all over Germany and they're telling like the kids at like a public school next door, like, hey, you can't dress like in short skirts.
We don't want to offend the Muslims in this refugee camp.
But it's like they're giving the keys to the...
People visiting from out of town to their house and letting them run the house and tell them what to do.
So what's really interesting to me about it is recently the Germans, they hired an ex-Stasi officer to go online and keep Germans and other people in Germany from complaining about it, calling it hate speech, and then they fine them, no judge nor jury.
So we got that clip ready, guys?
All right, yeah, let's go to that clip.
I need to get into the news now.
But coming up at the start of the next segment, I'll go to Jakari Jackson or I'll go to Darren McBreen or I'll go to Rob Jacobson's really talented video editors.
And they'll put together something that talk radio's done for decades.
A one-minute, a two-minute, a three-minute promo using interesting clips from the news and current events mixed in with movies and things.
And I started doing this, taking clips of films like 1984 and Brazil and others, and mixing it in with my own show or other news events and airing it on AXS TV 20 years ago.
And folks really liked it.
Then it became some of the first viral videos, once viral video was allowed to operate, and there were some platforms in the last 16, 17 years.
But we've really, I think, brought it to a new level here.
We have new ones every week.
Darren McBreen has spent a few weeks off and on working on the one.
We're going to premiere today because The Matrix is one of the best allegories or parables or parallels in fiction to the type of world we're entering into.
Literally.
That's where the technocracy, where the THX 1138, Brave New World, Philip K. Dick, Wirehead, cyberpunk dystopia is going because it's a plan to take us there.
The globalist...
Have a brand new God, the God of false reality, the God of synthetic death.
And I'll assure you, studying it and peering into it, swimming in it, that it is not a good place to go.
And you can see the fruits of it all around you.
So there's the war between false reality and reality, and all we're offering is the truth, nothing more.
To illustrate why independent, liberty-based, naked media is so important, there's an article on Infowars.com right now.
Now, when I first learned about something similar to this in 2003 from a news site, Al Martin Raw, I went to the Congressional Funding Office online.
It wasn't biz ops at the time, it was another one.
And I actually found where Marcus Wolf was paid $900,000 in one year alone, and over several years, he was paid even more, it was like $3 million, to establish the Department of Homeland Security.
Now, again, back then, I thought I was hardcore and knew a lot, but I thought that was made up.
I mean, I had the guy on the show, I said, I don't believe it, I went and looked it up.
Later it became mainstream niche.
Just like I didn't believe when somebody called me and said I have a tape of CBS News saying mercury is good for children's brains.
Or, hey, we got a clip out of PBS Boston where they have the inventor of the polio vaccine admitting they knew it was going to kill hundreds of millions of people because it had SV40 cancer virus in it.
And they laughed and said, good, there's too many people.
And then the tape came in the mail.
I used to get these calls at the office that I or a secretary would take.
I had like one person answer the phones, and people would tell me, no, I have it, and it would come in the mail.
Stuff like that.
Well, this ex-Stasi agent is hired to run Germany's censorship of xenophobic Facebook posts.
We are literally battling former Stasi commanders.
There's a new one, Wolf's dead.
This is who we have trying to censor our post in Germany, ourselves.
So yeah, so there you have it.
We have a Germany hired an East German ecstasy to run their whole free speech system.
And I say that ironically.
So yeah, it's like the headlines are so bizarre.
It's like what Rob Jacobson, he was in here for the last segment, said that it's like reality is so much more bizarre than fiction.
And it's like, this is a good example of that because it's like, We got an ex-Stasi agent running, telling Germans that they can't talk bad about migrants.
So, Dalen, what's your take on all this?
I mean, it's really a chill on free speech.
I mean, yeah, like you said, this is like coming full circle.
You have a Stasi agent back in power, although I guess we could argue that probably many of them remained in power in Germany.
But, yeah, this migrant situation, I think it really tells you the agenda.
That they would put someone like...
Yeah, but you notice that the migrants are not going to...
I mean, there's all sorts of countries in East Europe that no war's going on at all.
You know, it's completely peaceful.
But you have the migrants skipping over those countries.
They're skipping over Greece, Hungary, Austria, and all these countries to go to Germany, UK. And, I mean, guess what?
Countries are giving them free welfare.
Exactly.
I mean, it's really unfair to the actual legitimate Syrians who are actually trying to flee ISIS, flee the war.
And so, but you see the left who wants to use them as a political tool.
They're not going to talk about this.
What bothers me, it's like, I talk about this, but then people are like, why are you so anti-immigrant for?
You don't feel their plight?
It's like, I've been talking about how ISIS has been funded by the West and NATO for the past several years.
They're the ones that started this mess.
But now we're pointing out that they're using these refugees as a political tool.
Just like how the Obama administration was using Central Americans, encouraging them to come to the U.S. the past couple of years on these 1,500-mile journeys on these death trains where a lot of these kids are getting killed.
If they don't get killed by gangs on the death trains, they're getting killed in the freaking South Texas desert.
And you never hear anyone talk about the group taking advantage of these migrants and immigrants, you know, making money, smuggling them in, ripping them off.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
You never hear that.
Yeah, it's like even in Juarez on the Texas border, it's like they got all these warehouses that's just nothing but migrants where they're holding.
Because a lot of these people, they spend all their money to get to the border, but then they still got to pay a human trafficker, also known as a coyote, to bring them across the border.
So you got all these like warehouses of people that are just crammed up.
It's like literally like a slave ship where you have people that are like, you know, living in this hot warehouse with no AC, just hundreds of them crammed together.
And then what we have is the migrants, a lot of them, they pay all these hundreds of thousands of dollars to get into America and then they have to work out the debt.
I mean, there's no surprise.
You go on Craigslist in any big city and you're going to see all these.
Ads for these massage parlors and all that.
And all of it's like just people that were smuggled in the country that are practically sex slaves.
Yeah, I mean, it's really unfortunate, too, because like you said, they're getting taken advantage of by the coyotes in these groups, and then they come to the United States and they're just used as a political tool.
But back in Europe, of course, with the migrant crisis, yeah, you're not going to hear anyone defending, you know, the actual legitimate...
Migrants who are coming from Syria, it's all about just, you know, let them all in.
You know, don't check any of them.
You know, we're going to use them, of course, as a political voting bloc and whatnot.
Yeah, it's like, it's like we got to worry about, we got to have, we have to have the TSA on every street, Viper squads and this and that, saying, oh, well, we don't know who's a terrorist and who's not, so we got to check you, you know.
Highway checkpoint.
Yeah, exactly.
Literally, yeah.
Coming from war zones where ISIS is known to be.
It's like, it's harder for me to get on an airplane because I got to show all those forms of ID and get searched.
But for people coming across the border here in the U.S. and in Europe, they don't have to be searched at all.
Yeah, and like I said, they're not talking about the things they go through to get here, but also they're not talking about the fact of the policy that created it.
You know, last night during the debate, they said, you know, the reason Iraq is so terrible is because we left.
Well, you're not talking about...
Why we were there in the first place and caused the destabilization.
That's the same thing overseas.
It's like, you're talking about all these migrants, but why aren't we talking about the policies of the foreign policy that's making them all flood the Middle East to go to safer countries?
Yeah, yeah.
It reminds me of an article I think you did a couple years back where it's, I think it was up in Seattle, where they put up all these security cameras to watch outside.
I think it was out on the coast, right?
But then they switched the cameras.
They turn around to watch the public.
Yeah, that was on the waterfront.
That was part of the match.
That's a microcosm of what's going on in America.
They set up all this.
They use ISIS to say that, oh, we don't know who's a terrorist, so we've got to put up all this whole police state, get rid of your rights.
100 miles from every border in America is a constitutional-free zone, so on and so forth.
But then they use that as an excuse to get all the MRAPs, get all the...
Grenade launchers, small town Georgia cops.
I read about one story in Georgia where this town of 800, they gave the whole police department, it was like three people, all the scuba diving gear.
There's not any water there at all.
Yeah, and I mean, that's what Alex and M4 has been talking about for years.
I mean, I remember Alex following 2001 said, this whole buildup, this police day buildup, it's going to be turned back onto the American people.
And of course it has been, just like you said it would.
Yeah.
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Yeah, I mean, it's always bothered me as a kid because I always felt like I was being lied to.
You know, you watch, but you couldn't.
It was like what Winston said in 1984. It's like he knew that there was what he was being told was a lie, but he didn't know the specifics of it.
So he could never really debate it, you know?
Oh, yeah.
I mean, I look back at, like, the things I learned in school.
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So, yeah, I mean, I'm so glad.
Like I said, you know, I'm still an InfoWars fan.
I work here, but I'm an InfoWars fan, so I'm definitely grateful for all the information Alex has brought.
And one thing that we've had an effect on was actually ISIS recruitment over this past summer.
You know, ISIS was...
Admitted that we're having trouble getting more people overseas because now people are reading sites like Infowars, Drudge Report, World Net Daily, so on and so forth, realizing that the West has been backing ISIS in a proxy war against Syria for regime change.
And I believe ISIS has a magazine that they give out to their members every month or so, and there's actually an article in there telling them don't believe these Western conspiracy theories that ISIS is Western.
That's not ISIS, it's probably CIA that's putting out that magazine.
Yeah, so that's pretty interesting.
But, I mean, ISIS is still making gains in different areas across the Middle East.
Yeah, and I think you wrote an article yesterday about the, I think, over 80% of Syrians believe U.S. created ISIS. Let me read this briefly.
More than 81% of Syrians believe the United States and its allies are behind the creation of the Islamic State terrorist group, a recent survey found.
Conducted by research firm ORB International, the survey questioned over 1,300 Syrians throughout the country on matters regarding the Islamic State and the nation's ongoing turmoil.
81% of Syrians polled believe that ISIS was a foreign American-made group, the survey stated.
Yeah, I mean, this is really interesting.
I mean, if we really want to analyze the situation with ISIS properly, we've got to go back to September 11th, which, of course, all this policy comes out of.
And this sort of is a big new Brzezinski, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld amalgamation.
And so, of course, we know the famous clip of...
I went to the Pentagon and I was told of the plan to invade seven countries, which included Syria, Libya, Iran.
And of course, this was before Obama was in office.
So this shows that Obama has just been a continuation of the Bush doctrine that we saw during his...
And so we move forward with the Arab Spring emerging out in the Middle East.
We saw – I remember telling people, of course, doing my own analysis but also listening to Alex at the time.
I remember telling people, like, the Muslim brother is going to come into power in Egypt.
That is what the Obama administration wants.
And everyone said, you're crazy.
The Obama administration wouldn't put a terrorist group in power in Egypt.
Of course, they came into power.
And not only that, but President Obama gave them tanks and fighter jets.
That was mainstream news at the time.
Yeah.
And so we fast forward and it's like we go to Libya, just like the plan said it would.
Obama told us that, of course, that these were freedom fighters as they were cutting people's internal organs out.
They said the same thing about Al-Qaeda.
Yeah.
They were the freedom fighters in Afghanistan in the 70s.
I remember when Muammar Gaddafi fell, I believe it was Vice News who was on the ground.
They sat there and filmed that the courthouse in Benghazi as a giant Al-Qaeda flag was risen above the building.
And I believe Infowar spoke out against it.
Mainstream media didn't touch it.
Dennis Kucinich, former Democratic congressman, he came out and did a video on it as well.
So we've been lied to this whole time, and yet somehow we keep moving towards this situation now where we're in Syria, all these so-called Syrian rebels who are really jihadist proxy soldiers coming in from Turkey, Qatar, Saudi Arabia.
And it's not us saying that.
It's the Pentagon itself.
There was a 2012 leaked document from the Pentagon, excuse me, the State Department.
Said that the general situation in Syria, the Salafists, the Muslim Brotherhood, and Al-Qaeda in Iraq are the major forces driving the insurgency in Syria.
The West, Gulf countries, and Turkey support this opposition, meaning ISIS, while Russia, China, and Iran support the regime.
And one thing, one of the reasons why the West and NATO and Turkey and Saudi Arabia, they're backing ISIS in this proxy war against Syria.
It's because Qatar, which is a country that's surrounded by Saudi Arabia and the Persian Gulf, wanted to put a pipeline running from Qatar through Saudi Arabia, through Syria, into Europe.
Russia, I believe, is like the largest exporter of natural gas into Europe.
It's the main supplier.
But Qatar is also a big, huge game player in natural gas.
So they wanted a pipeline, but Assad, who's allied with Russia, he didn't want to do it.
Yeah, and I think there's multiple...
Sort of reasons why in the Middle East.
Of course, there's, like you said, there's the financial reasons.
There's just the...
Yeah, and then you have the Shiite versus Sunni.
Yeah, and then you have just the military-industrial complex aspect.
And then, of course, we have, you know, the larger, I think, like I said, this sort of is a big new Brzezinski grand chessboard policy of encircling Russia, knocking out the allies, moving towards taking out the other superpowers.
Iran, I wouldn't necessarily call them a superpower, but they're next on the list.
Of course, Russia, China.
And so, yeah, we see, like I said with the article, the majority of people polled in Syria believe that ISIS is a U.S. creation.
I don't know if they're necessarily the U.S. sat down, so let's create this ISIS group.
But as you said from that...
Well, they were there.
I mean, you already had al-Qaeda in Iraq, which by itself was off-sheet al-Qaeda, which was off-sheet CIA, you know, kind of helping out the Mujahideen.
I don't know if I'm pronouncing that right.
Back in the...
When Russia invaded Afghanistan in the late 70s, it was like a 10-year war.
I don't think they pulled out until the late 80s.
So you had the CIA in there, and also a proxy war, just like Syria, where they were backing the rebels in Afghanistan to fight the Russians.
That's just exactly what we see in Syria right now.
Except the rebels are ISIS. They're way worse.
Yeah, exactly.
Michael T. Flynn, the former head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, he recently gave an interview to Al Jazeera where he admitted that he'd seen this document.
He said, yes, I saw this document and basically admitted that, yes, ISIS was viewed by the West as a tool in order to justify further intervention into Syria.
So that's why we see, you know, one of the things I brought up my article was the accidental.
Who knows?
Airdrops that were going from our military to ISIS that were falling in ISIS' hands, and they kept getting weapons and food.
I quote an Iraqi gentleman in the article who said, we know the U.S. is giving them weapons and food.
There's no such thing as moderate rebels.
You had moderate rebels, but they got pushed out because ISIS was getting so well-funded by U.S. arms back in 2013. I mean, who did Obama call the so-called great rebel group?
He said the Free Syrian Army, and this is the group.
Yeah, and then you have the Free Syrian Army and the media admitting that, yeah, we're working with ISIS because we have common goals.
They have the same goals, exactly, and it's to overthrow Assad.
That's the West goal.
Yeah, you hear this.
If the Free Syrian Army was not ISIS, we would be seeing reports of them fighting ISIS as well as Assad's regime.
We'd have, like, a free front war right now.
Between the moderate rebels, ISIS and Assad.
But you notice we don't see that at all.
Right now it's just Assad and his Russian allies and ISIS. Well, I believe the Obama administration, I have the article there, spent $500 million to train a legitimate rebel group.
They ended up only being able to train five rebels.
That's all they could find because so many of them in the Middle East that are in that country now are radical jihadists, you know, coming from all these countries, like I said, these Western countries.
You know, these Western-backed countries in the Middle East.
And so there is no legitimate rebel group.
And we've had countless guests on to back up this, you know, this, not claim, really, this fact, like Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Schaefer, of course, who's famous for Operation Able Danger and Stratocybe, who went after bin Laden in the 1990s.
And so, I mean, this is a well-known fact that a large majority of these so-called rebels are Western-backed and their goal is, I mean, the West's goal is to use them as a tool to overthrow Assad.
I mean, it's simple as that.
Yeah, I mean, you've got Turkey that's...
Been known to be training ISIS militants to go fight in Syria, within Turkey.
That's a NATO country.
That's a U.S. ally.
There was a video that was shot, I think, in January of ISIS militants caught on a subway, just casually riding the subway in Istanbul.
You go outside Istanbul, you go to a clothing shop, and they sell ISIS gear, you know, T-shirts, hats, flags.
So, yeah, it's like...
Turkey's got, it's just, not only is the government supporting ISIS, but there's not really that much of a backlash between the Turks either.
I mean, it's like you do have a lot of Turks that are like, you know, we don't like what the government's doing, especially in the military.
You know, we had the prime minister of Turkey who was caught shipping guns and arms to al-Qaeda because one of his public prosecutors got tipped off on what he was doing.
He was using the country's, I think, the intelligence agency there to ship trucks in from Turkey into Syria with all these munitions.
And so one of the prosecutors found out about it, told the military, hey, why don't you check out these trucks, see what's going on?
Sure enough, you know, they stopped three trucks going into Syria.
They're loaded with equipment, like anti-aircraft, mortar rounds, all this stuff.
That's the one thing you don't hear the mainstream media ever commenting on.
It's like, where is ISIS getting all these weapons from?
Because these are not weapons that you're like, oh, they're getting them from the Syrians they're fighting against.
But it's like, that doesn't explain all of them.
And of course we know that's what Benghazi is about.
You know, I remember as soon as that situation unfolded, and it's kind of turned into a political football, you know, with Republicans, you know, Benghazi, Benghazi, I get it.
But, I mean, it was, again, Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Schaefer and others who came on at the time and said this was a weapons transfer from the Obama administration to take weapons out of Libya, out of Benghazi, to eventually make it to Syria.
And that's all coming out.
That all came out.
Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Cy Hirsch did a huge article about the rat line, which totally vindicated everything we said.
And so it's just all coming out that, exactly, ISIS is just a proxy tool to take on Assad and then eventually other groups in the Middle East as well.
Yeah, it's so ridiculous what's going on.
And you have the Western media that's completely controlled by this establishment.
And people are like, oh, they're getting their orders from the CIA directly.
It's like, not really.
I mean, they do at times, but what we do have, what we see is you get these networks of establishment insiders that work with the...
You know, their heads is the media operations, you know, reporters, not just reporters, but, you know, the heads of major news organizations that are buddy-buddies with politicians.
You know, they go to each other's weddings and whatnot.
So you kind of have this whole networking of the state and media kind of complex.
I think that's a thing a lot of people get wrong.
They think, you know, ISIS is, quote, CIA, therefore every ISIS member is, you know, getting phone calls from Langley, which is not how it works.
As Alex has said many times, if I took a bee's nest and I shook it up and tossed it in a room full of people, I wouldn't be telling each bee who to sting and when to sting them.
The West is steering these groups.
They created the...
Situation for them to come out of that, you know, out of the destabilization of Iraq.
And now they're steering them and using them.
So it's not that they're, you know, directly controlled.
It's just that they have the same endgame as, you know, the Pentagon, criminal elements.
Yeah, absolutely.
And going back to the debate last night, I was talking to Rob Jacobson about this for a little while in the last segment.
I'm sure you watched some of the debate.
What did you think about it?
Yeah, I caught it briefly.
I was watching David Knight and Leanne and Biggs and Jakari's breakdown of it.
And, I mean, it's a lot of the same that you would expect from a Republican debate.
There was a couple things said by Rand Paul that I agreed with as far as his views on drug policy and foreign policy.
I mean, he talked about, you know, why are we going to be arming these groups?
Both sides of the civil war, quote-unquote, aren't good in Syria.
So I definitely agreed with those statements.
As far as that, I'm...
I didn't hear too much.
What really caught my eye, as I told Jacobson this in the last segment, is the fact that it seems like the media is propping up.
Jeb Bush's practically dead campaign right now.
His campaign's not much better than Rick Perry's was before he left the campaign.
I mean, you got dead Jeb Bush.
He's got a lot of issues getting support, getting money, just like Rick Perry did.
But yeah, we see the media kind of like treating like Jeb Bush is like a Weekend at Bernie's guy.
You know, he's just this dead candidate that they're propping up everywhere.
You know, they're putting him in the podium.
He's like the Hillary version on the Republican side.
Those are the two they want, and it's not...
Absolutely.
Yeah, I mean, if...
He pulled a Hail Mary tonight, or last night, by the way, guys, by admitting that he smoked weed.
He admitted that a couple of years ago he smoked weed.
That was his Hail Mary pass.
Bring his campaign back around to the young people.
Yeah, look at me.
I'm hip, kids.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
It's like, oh, I'm not totally against the war on drugs.
I smoked pot back in the 70s.
Meanwhile, they showcased the harsh laws, the harsh drug enforcement laws in Florida.
Yeah, exactly.
It's interesting you point that out, Marcos, or one of our producers, is that Florida is a huge, huge prison system state.
I've heard stuff that said that you haven't lived in Florida long enough, you haven't gotten arrested.
I mean, it's like Texas.
I don't think they have an income tax, but they make a lot of money off the prison system and flooding people into that system.
It's also a well-known drug hub.
Not only is it harsh punishment for drug offenders, it's also one of the biggest trafficking states.
Yeah, of course, Miami right there.
Miami right there, plus they cook a lot of meth.
You know, they make it at home there.
Yeah, it's just like the whole lanternfish kind of allegory.
It's like you got the government that keeps a monopoly on the drug trade by legalizing it, which ends up raising the prices.
So you got all these people that are broke, desolate, you know, can't do anything in life.
So they get in the drugs, start selling drugs.
They get busted eventually.
And then you see they get thrown in the prison.
Like in Florida and other states where they're working for like literally 25 cents an hour.
So it's basically a free...
It's basically slavery.
I mean, you got the prisoners that are making money working for the...
They're making barely any money working for the state.
Meanwhile, the prisons generate revenue in the large accounts and the shareholders who change every few years.
Yeah, a lot of people don't realize the prisons are...
Our prisons are run by corporations.
I mean, a lot of them, I mean...
Especially in Texas.
They're basically built by these large corporations that work with Bureau of Prisons.
They become accounts who showcase that they can generate profits enough to sell it off to the next group of investors.
Yeah, absolutely.
They do the same thing, so there's no actual investment in the people behind it either.
It's just an investment in generating numbers.
Yeah.
And that's how I kind of, I mean, you know, I'm, you know, for...
Drug legalization.
I mean, just in the fact that...
Make it a state's issue.
You know, let the states decide.
But I remember one candidate said, you know, we can't be up here telling kids that marijuana is the same as drinking beer.
Which is so ridiculous because alcohol is probably the worst thing for you.
You don't hear about...
So many deaths.
There hasn't been one death in the recorded history of humankind for marijuana.
Yeah, you go to any, like, dive bar here in Austin, you see people drunk, they want to fight each other, you know?
But you never see people that are high on weed really wanting to fight.
I think that like, you know, reefer madness era mentality that's still going on.
But I think with the younger generations, I mean, it's not, you don't even have to support marijuana.
You don't have to smoke it.
You know, you don't have to.
Yeah, that's what bothers me.
It's like, oh, you're for marijuana legislation.
You must be a pothead.
No, I don't smoke pot at all.
But it's like, but I don't like this concept.
It's not giving others the choice in a free country.
I mean, simple as that.
It's becoming a business that strips people of their rights.
Yeah, that and it's.
It's a money generating business that is.
The whole business is stripping people of their rights and putting them in cages.
Yeah, absolutely.
It's like this whole...
It's basically a non...
It's basically all these crimes that have no victims.
Victimless crimes.
It's basically you versus the state.
And the reason why the drug war is important is because that's where police militarization also spawned out of the 1980s.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
Not just ISIS too.
So it's like you get all these...
Departments that get all the Pentagon 1099 program, all the MRAPs, grenade launchers, SCUPA equipment.
And they say, oh, what do we got?
Yeah, that's the other thing.
It's interesting you bring that up is because they use the whole war on drugs.
It's justification that, oh, we got to, we got to, they're escalating the violence.
We got to escalate too.
And of course, violence is down, of course.
Yeah.
But you never see those statistics showed here though, but.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, you start thinking about like, wow, you know, what if I don't have electricity?
Yeah, yeah.
That's the thing.
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Right.
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You can talk to someone from, like, if the atmospheric conditions are good, you can talk to someone, like, 1,500 miles away on a ham radio.
So that's kind of what we need.
And I think we do have a clip, right, guys, with, I think his name is John Wesley Rawls, who's talking about the importance of using ham radios.
And kind of other things and how, you know, you can protect yourself and your family by having all these different methods of not only communication, but just kind of basic survival stuff.
Backup plans.
Yeah, backup plans that people don't have anymore because they're so dependent on technology.
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To focus on communications, that's one of the things that we have been writing about year after year in Survival Blog, is the importance of every family having multiple modes of communication.
I do recommend that people, even if they don't want the shackles of an FCC license, at least go to a ham radio swap meet, talk with some of the old-timers there, and get yourself set up for both two-meter, And HF communications equipment.
And for point-to-point communications at an individual retreat or ranch, I recommend the MERS band radios.
That's M-U-R-S, which stands for Multiple User Radio System.
It's an unlicensed band that sits fairly close to the CB band.
But it's very underutilized.
It will not be crowded in the event of a crisis, at least in suburban and rural areas.
And again, no assistance required, and it will be your means of communication.
It also sits right next to the National Weather Service frequency, so you can have your handheld MERS walkie-talkie, this program with both your local MERS push-to-talk frequency.
And the National Weather Service alert frequency, which sits right next to that band, as well as having perimeter security via a system called a Dakota Alert.
I've written a lot about that in my blog.
The Dakota Alert system also uses the MERS band frequency, so that one handheld radio can be your solution for push-to-talk.
to talk with your neighbors and folks right there to retreat for coordinating retreat security, as well as having access to weather alerts and being alerted when someone's entering your property through a Dakota Alert infrared driveway alarm system. as well as having access to weather alerts and being
All right, Thalen, what do you think about that, about, you know, using ham radios and whatnot?
It's kind of a backup plan.
Yeah, I mean, it's definitely interesting.
I've never used one before, but I see it's pretty a thing a lot of people are interested in out here in Texas, I've noticed.
So it's something I definitely want to look into.
Yeah, if I'm not mistaken, you're big into kind of being security on the Internet too, right?
Yeah, yeah, cybersecurity, you know, protecting yourself from all the adversaries, whether it's the NSA, although if the NSA is after you.
You're in trouble.
It's two interesting concepts.
You go back to primitive, basic stuff like ham radios and whatnot to keep you from being too dependent on the internet.
But when you are on the internet, you've also got to think of ways to protect yourself from the government intrusion.
Our society is getting more and more reliant on technology, which of course has its positives and negatives.
I remember Alex years ago, I remember when he was talking about the Internet of Things, he was saying, you know, in the future your light bulbs are going to be spying on you.
Now you've got bags of potato chips that are spying on you, literally.
They put these little...
Microchips in it.
Yeah, and news organizations, I remember at the time, made fun of Alex saying he thinks the lightbulbs are spying on you.
That's mainstream news now that you have lightbulbs that can connect to your Wi-Fi controlled by your phone, and so people can literally hack onto your Wi-Fi connection, jump through your phone into other devices in your home.
So we're kind of in that 1984 future that the former head of the CIA talked about in Wired magazine, Petraeus.
He said, you know, in the future, your dishwasher's going to spy on you because it's all going to be interconnected.
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So like on email, for example, what's one good way that people can protect themselves?
I'm kind of sort of familiar with using public keys and this and that.
I'm not too familiar with it.
Well, PGP is probably the most difficult thing that the reason for sure.
Yeah, that's why I never really got into it.
I got exposed to it like in around 2000. Yeah, and kind of the crypto movement, if you want to say, they're kind of trying to move past using the PGP, public-private key system.
Because although it is secure, we know that from NSA slides and whatnot that the federal government hasn't been able to break that cryptography.
I mean, it's been around since the 90s, and that's really strong.
But I think the future is moving probably more towards instant messaging and whatnot like that.
But yeah, email, unfortunately.
Yeah, I saw some programs recently on, I think, the iPhone store with kind of ways to secure chat and whatnot.
Yeah, there's a lot of really good...
Programs out there that I suggest anyone who's listening download.
For example, if you have an Android, there's two apps.
One called RedPhone and one called TechSecure.
This is made by a company called OpenWhisper Systems.
And they are free and they are open source, meaning all the code can be viewed by anyone.
And even Edward Snowden has come out and said, you know, these are really great products.
And it's something I use every day.
And it encrypts your text messages.
Of course, the other party has to have it as well.
So it's end-to-end encryption, which is the only real encryption.
But also the good thing is that...
When all the texts come into your phone, it protects them in a database, encrypted database, because your normal texting right now, you get all these texts.
The other apps on your phones, you know, when you download other apps, it says, we can see your texts, right?
They can go view all your texts, but this actually protects you from that.
And so those are two great apps.
And then if you have an iPhone, Signal is both encrypted calling and encrypted text messages in one, made by the same company.
And Signal callers can call, you know, Android people on Red Phone or text them on TechSecure.
And so that's just one thing people can do.
Have your family download that and you'll have really, really strong encryption on your phone.
Now, of course, this is to protect you from, you know, low-level threats like police, even some federal agents.
Yeah, even if you're not doing anything wrong, I was told by a lawyer once before that there's like literally in any given state, there's like 40,000 laws on the books they could bust you with.
So it's like you told me, it's like never submit to a search even if you're doing nothing wrong.
Exactly.
And with these technologies like, you know, stingrays, MC catchers that police are using that are just ubiquitous everywhere, I mean, it's important to protect your data.
And again, it's not about having anything to hide.
It's about making the government respect your fourth amendment.
Yeah, if you don't have privacy, you don't have any rights whatsoever.
You're no different than a slave.
Exactly.
So, all right, let's take Justin in Pennsylvania.
He wants to talk about the drug war.
You're on air.
Go ahead, Justin.
How are you guys doing?
Good, good.
How are you doing this morning?
Good, good.
I already talked about the drug war, and I wanted to say it's not a crime.
It's a vice that they criminalize, because it doesn't infringe on anybody's liberty when you ingest something into your own body.
So it's not a crime at all.
A crime is when you infringe on the next man's liberty, property, whatever it is, but you can take a drug, it's a vice, and that's what's wrong with the drug war.
Yeah, I tend to agree.
Yeah, I appreciate your call, Justin.
I tend to agree.
I mean, to me, I see a crime as being you've got to have a victim.
You know, if the victim is a state that's got a monopoly on the use of force in a given territory, I don't see that as a crime at all.
What do you think, Thalen?
Yeah, I mean, there's definitely, I mean, if you look at South America, they're having countries now that are treating drug issues like a medical issue instead of a criminal issue, and they're having great success with that.
So, yeah, I mean, I see drug issues as a...
Something that shouldn't be handled by the criminal sector of law enforcement and whatnot.
Because as you said, it's led to police militarization.
It's led to so many issues like private prisons.
Yeah, prison industrial complex.
Exactly.
So it's a really big issue.
And I think, you know, and that's funny.
Mentioning that because, you know, we now see things like the Silk Road and the Dark Web where people are buying drugs online.
I'm not advocating this, but, you know, you're having a situation where people are using technology now to go get high-quality drugs because they're cutting out, you know, the possible violent encounters with police and law enforcement.
Yeah, I saw that movie with Jakari recently.
Alex Winter, director, probably known best as Bill from the movie Bill and Ted Excellent Ventures.
He does documentary films mostly now.
And it was an excellent movie, Deep Web.
It talked about the history of Silk Road and how the federal government threw Ross Ilbrich under the bus, Dread Pirate Roberts.
They basically, the judge, and Alex Winters even told me, we had like a question and answer at the end of the movie, and he said that he was bewildered by what the judge said while he was there at the trial, was that they basically, the federal government kind of interjected this idea that Ross was trying to hire people to hit.
Hitmen.
There was no proof of that whatsoever.
But they were still kind of floating that out there to kind of corrupt the jury to go against Ross.
Yeah, and of course it came out, of course, that DEA agents involved had stolen Bitcoin, like thousands and thousands of dollars worth, which I think was suppressed from the trial.
Yeah, it was.
They wouldn't even talk about that at all.
And so I think the reason that the government went so hard after Ross Ulbricht is that they're terrified of these new ventures.
Yeah, it's what Alice Winter brought up, was that they basically, the judge basically convicted him of crimes that he wasn't in charge.
Exactly.
And it goes back into the whole...
One good thing I like about the Silk Road was it gave people an opportunity to buy drugs so they didn't get ripped off.
Not just ripped off, but they didn't get attacked.
Or get bad drugs.
Yeah, bad drugs.
Or they didn't get attacked by corrupt criminals or even the state.
I mean, that was one of the goals of the Silk Road was to kind of...
Cut down on the violence because they realize that, yeah, people are still going to use drugs even if it's criminalized.
So why don't we just give them a platform to use drugs so there's less violence and there's more knowledge about it too.
You know, people were like, there was like question and answer forms about using drugs so people wouldn't just go and OD because they didn't know any better.
Yeah, and the Silk Road and all those drug markets kind of represent just like the most raw form of capitalism where the person with the best product, you know, and the best reviews, because all that stuff is based off review systems, has the best, you know, so even if you don't support drugs, it's still an interesting experiment in the free market.
All right, next caller, let's go to George in New Jersey who wants to talk about the immigrants flooding Europe.
George, you're on the air.
Hello, yeah.
I want to talk about that situation that you just mentioned because I think that's where the Third World War is going to prove because they were talking about that.
AJ was talking about that in the morning, I believe, with a guest.
I didn't get his name.
I forgot.
But, you know, because they can't afford it.
They're going to collapse soon, you know?
I mean, you know, I just don't know what's going to happen there, but they're going to revolt.
Yeah, a lot of these countries, especially Sweden, they're like socialist countries.
And people say that Socialism can teeter-tottle and work somewhat if there's a small population, even though it really doesn't work, but that's kind of besides my point.
But once you flood a country with like 10,000, 10 million people, it's like the whole country, a country that's based on welfare and giving benefits to population, it's going to collapse when you have too many people.
Yeah, I mean, it's just basic economics is that you have more people taking than giving or, you know, more people.
You know, reliant on the state, you're going to have issues.
And all these heads of these governments in the Middle East, or sorry, in Europe, they don't seem to have any problem with bringing all these people in, even though, as I think Paul noted in one of his videos, that people in the Middle East, or excuse me, Europe, have been voting against these sort of mass migration policies, but it doesn't matter, I guess.
All right, let's go to Buckley in Missouri, who wants to talk about common law.
Buckley, you're on there.
Yeah, thanks.
How are you doing?
I'm doing fine, thanks.
You guys are doing a great job.
Yeah, I appreciate it.
Yeah, I couldn't quite stay up all night, but you had me up till midnight.
Yeah, I couldn't either, to be honest.
I had to get a couple hours sleep before I went on air this morning.
Yeah, I know.
I'm on my first cup of coffee and I'm a little fuzzy here.
Basically, you were talking earlier, if there is no injured party, there is no crime.
But according to common law, the state cannot be the injured party.
There's a great group out there that I'd like for people to check into.
If you go to nationallibertyalliance.org, they're setting up common law grand juries in all counties across America.
They've already got it going.
It's a great project.
There's 3,143 counties in America.
They've already got common law grand juries started in every one of those counties.
So if people will go to that NationalLibertyAliance.org website, you can read more about this, because I think this is one of the solutions.
We need to take back our courts.
Yeah, I agree, Buckley.
Our courts are nothing but statutory law.
That is not law.
It's not even law.
It's statute.
It's regulation.
That's all it is.
Yeah, definitely, Buckley.
I appreciate the call.
That's one thing I always promoted was jury nullification.
I was going to say the same thing, too.
Because juries are supposed to be independent of the government.
You're supposed to have kind of, in a trial, you're supposed to have the accused, the prosecution, and the jury.
Kind of like how we're supposed to have a separation of powers in the federal government.
But what's going on now is the prosecution is basically lassoed a jury into making them think they're one and the same.
Yeah, and we see, I mean, we see a huge push against jury nullification.
Even people that go just try to bring up the fact.
Yeah, definitely.
It goes back to what we were saying about the drug laws.
It's like people are starting to realize that the marijuana laws are completely unjust.
And there's been cases, I think, of people getting arrested outside of courthouses holding up signs saying, you know, know your rights, know about jury nullification.
The government seems to definitely be afraid of that issue.
Yeah, absolutely.
Let's talk to Tim from North Carolina.
Let's talk about the police state.
Tim, you're on there.
Hey.
Nice job, fellas, talking about the space-time continuum brain rift.
I was wondering what y'all think about drug interrogation techniques, advanced drug interrogation techniques.
I'm totally against that.
I mean, I just don't think torture is the best way to...
Yeah, I mean, George Washington was against torture.
Even, you know, the conservative quote-unquote hero, Ronald Reagan, was against torture.
And we know that torture doesn't work because a lot of times people will just give you any information to make the torture stop.
And drug torture is definitely pretty terrifying.
Some of the things the CIA and that's been done over the Middle East.
People talk like things like scopolamine.
I mean, it's interesting.
You're torturing somebody that's probably doing a victimless crime, but who's really the aggressor in that situation?
It's the state.
And the victim is the person being accused that they're torturing.
So, yeah.
So, any other comments you have on that?
Yeah, I'm talking about local police departments in America doing this.
This ain't something going on with Gitmo.
That's true.
Right here in America.
Yeah, I mean, there's different...
I mean, there's a big debate over that, over different techniques police use when, you know, interrogating people.
I mean, there's like, what, the pressure point, pain...
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They put your hand behind your back to almost the point it breaks.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's a whole issue in itself.
Then you have police that are like, they know ways now to keep from their body cameras, or even on their dash cams, they will take a suspect away from the line of sight, and they'll start yelling, stop resisting, stop resisting, when the suspect's not resisting at all.
Yeah, and they're just bringing up the video about...
Or the article, excuse me, about Chicago, that quote-unquote black site that was there.
And that was pretty, you know, eye-opening.
But, I mean, I can't really say I'm surprised, especially in those big cities like that.
Man, those police departments are brutal.
And it's unfortunate because cops like that...
Or the reason, you know, there's all this huge debate about police violence and violence on police and whatnot.
And I think, you know, the police really need to go after these super corrupt cops and get them out of there because they're making it worse for them.
You know, they're making it worse for the good cops.
And, you know, you saw the recent shooting of the officer Goforth.
Yeah.
And I mean...
There was even people who had been arrested by him who came out and was like, he was a great cop, but it seems like the good cops get the bullet and get attacked.
Of course, there's no reason to ever justify it.
That's why I'm against collectivism, because it's like us versus them, but you're not going after the person that's actually committing the crime.
It's just this whole gang mentality.
Exactly, yeah.
I mean, you can't...
I mean, I'm against any violence against anyone.
That's not defensive, of course, but yeah, that's what happens.
These cops, just because they're a police officer, they get attacked, you know?
All right, let's continue on.
Let's go to Cliff from Alaska who wants to talk about Obama's recent visit to his state.
Go ahead, Cliff.
Hi.
It's great to get to talk to you guys today.
I don't normally get to call in because I'm either listening to recorded or I'm not sure.
Yeah, I appreciate you calling in.
I know you're probably a couple hours earlier than we are.
Yeah, we're three hours.
It's about four-something in the morning here.
Yeah, we appreciate the support.
Yeah, so they shut down all the air traffic over Anchorage for about three days while Obama was here.
And it was a big to-do, you know, him coming to Anchorage.
And he brought his own private motorcade in.
I'm sure that it cost us lots of money.
The air traffic was shut down, and so I hear some helicopters flying over Anchorage.
And they sounded different, so I looked out my window, and sure enough, there was like a couple of Cobras leading, two Yui's following, and then three of the big rotor helicopters, the tilt rotor helicopters.
And I'm sure he was probably in one of those, and they were headed down to Seward to go down to Seward.
But the whole deal is, you know, they spend trillions of dollars You know, over budget and everything in the United States.
And then we got a president flying to Alaska, a so-called president, flying to Alaska to meet Bear Grylls and film a series, you know?
Yeah.
It's too bad we didn't have that security on 9-11, right?
Yeah, it's interesting you bring this up because it's like Thalen just said.
The president, the Secret Service protects the president more so than the borders, you know?
And it's like, yeah, it goes back to this whole idea of feudalism where you've got to protect the royalty and shut down the whole city and what have you.
But yeah, we're about out of time.
Appreciate the call and appreciate everyone's support.
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