Special Reports & Tweets - Piers Morgan debates Alex Jones
Aired: 2013-01-08
Duration: 06:30


=== Let's Talk About Guns (05:58) ===

[00:00:05]  Here's how this is going to work, and it's entirely down to you.
[00:00:08]  I'm going to ask you some questions.
[00:00:10]  In the spirit of a proper debate, and you've had a lot to say so far on the show, a lot of it aimed at me.
[00:00:14]  It's just fine.
[00:00:15]  But I want you to try and answer the questions.
[00:00:16]  It's a proper debate, okay?
[00:00:17]  I'm not trying to trip you up.
[00:00:18]  No, it's not a debate.
[00:00:19]  You're running the show.
[00:00:20]  You bring in your victims up front.
[00:00:22]  Actually, no.
[00:00:22]  Look, you got your little note cards.
[00:00:24]  I just gave you FBI statistics that violent crime and gun crime is down over 20%.
[00:00:30]  Alex, let me just ask you this.
[00:00:31]  And you want to go to little factoids.
[00:00:33]  No.
[00:00:33]  Anybody can pull those up.
[00:00:35]  Listen.
[00:00:35]  Do you have a bodyguard?
[00:00:37]  Alex.
[00:00:37]  Why do you have bodyguards?
[00:00:38]  I don't have a bodyguard.
[00:00:39]  Yeah, I've seen you on the news with them.
[00:00:41]  Don't you want to protect your wife from hoodlums or you want to call the police?
[00:00:43]  Let me ask you this question.
[00:00:44]  Why does Dianne Feinstein tell 60 minutes that she plans to try to take Mr. and Mrs. America's guns?
[00:00:50]  Have you seen that come?
[00:00:51]  Stop talking over me.
[00:00:51]  You guys want to disarm all of America.
[00:00:53]  No, I don't.
[00:00:54]  Dianne Feinstein's bill does.
[00:00:55]  I don't.
[00:00:55]  Gun confiscation.
[00:00:56]  No, let me clarify for you.
[00:00:58]  You don't seem to understand what it is.
[00:00:59]  First you register, then you confiscate.
[00:01:00]  It's always done the same.
[00:01:03]  Well, here, give me your little cue cards and I'll answer your questions for you.
[00:01:05]  What was the weapon used at Sandy Hook?
[00:01:07]  I've already gone over that and already answered it for you.
[00:01:09]  We haven't talked about Sandy Hook.
[00:01:11]  No.
[00:01:11]  Again, it's a.223 M4.
[00:01:14]  Again.
[00:01:15]  But statistically, they're using very low percentage of shooting, period.
[00:01:19]  But you guys, people wouldn't go swimming because the movie Jaws, even though great white sharks kill five people a year.
[00:01:26]  You're trying to scare people.
[00:01:27]  Let me say something.
[00:01:28]  There's no metal shark in the water.
[00:01:29]  The same.
[00:01:30]  This type of weapon was used in the last three mass shootings.
[00:01:33]  And that's right.
[00:01:34]  And Hitler used semi-autos to kill people.
[00:01:35]  Why would you not?
[00:01:36]  And so did Mao.
[00:01:37]  Why would you?
[00:01:37]  Why is the government arming to the teeth against us?
[00:01:40]  Alex, I don't know.
[00:01:40]  What about Fast and Furious?
[00:01:41]  Alex.
[00:01:42]  Why do our government ship guns into Mexico?
[00:01:43]  Alex.
[00:01:44]  To blame the Second Amendment?
[00:01:45]  Let's have a debate.
[00:01:45]  A false flag?
[00:01:46]  Alex.
[00:01:47]  To blame the Second Amendment?
[00:01:48]  I get accused.
[00:01:49]  Why are they building seven down the street here in New York?
[00:01:51]  I get accused when I get you guys on of talking over you of being rude.
[00:01:54]  I'm trying to be civil, right?
[00:01:56]  You've got to try and answer some of the questions, right?
[00:01:58]  Here's my issue for you.
[00:02:00]  Why do people need, civilians need an AR-15 type?
[00:02:05]  I already said statistically they're using a very low amount of the crimes.
[00:02:09]  That's an FBI fact show to you.
[00:02:10]  They've been used in the last three mass shootings.
[00:02:12]  I'll tell you why.
[00:02:13]  Because they advertise it in the media.
[00:02:15]  Anybody knows that if somebody jumps off the Empire State Building, they put cops up there the next day because copycats come to do it again.
[00:02:21]  The media hypes and hypes and hypes.
[00:02:23]  Don't just commit suicide.
[00:02:25]  Don't commit suicide by killing a bunch of kids.
[00:02:27]  And here's the gun to use because it's the one the U.S. Army uses.
[00:02:30]  Why do people need them?
[00:02:32]  They need them to protect us from the number one killer in history.
[00:02:35]  Government in the 20th century university study out of Hawaii killed 292 million people.
[00:02:40]  It's called democide.
[00:02:42]  Google it, folks.
[00:02:43]  Do you believe every one of America...
[00:02:49]  Statistically, where there's more guns, there's lower crime.
[00:02:51]  The highest crime is in Bloomberg.
[00:02:52]  But you have the most guns of any of the 23 richest countries in the world, and you have 20. It's true, we're a violent society.
[00:03:04]  But statistically, knives kill three times more.
[00:03:07]  Have you seen the FBI numbers?
[00:03:09]  Knives, bats, rocks kill many, many times more.
[00:03:14]  Alex, let's talk about the guns.
[00:03:15]  It's not the rock.
[00:03:16]  It's not the knife.
[00:03:18]  When a mother chops her kids up with a cleaver because she's on serotonin.
[00:03:22]  Alex, tell me why I'm wrong about the AR-15.
[00:03:23]  Why don't you want to get rid of the drugs?
[00:03:25]  Because they're half your sponsors?
[00:03:26]  Stick to the subject.
[00:03:27]  America's number one cause of unnatural death now is suicide.
[00:03:31]  Not automobile accident, not cancer, not...
[00:03:36]  I want to get people off pills that the insert says would make you commit suicide and kill people.
[00:03:41]  Alex, Alex.
[00:03:41]  Let's get to the Second Amendment.
[00:03:43]  I want to blame the real culprit!
[00:03:44]  Alex!
[00:03:45]  Suicide pills!
[00:03:45]  Alex!
[00:03:46]  Mass murder pills!
[00:03:47]  OK, let me ask you one question.
[00:03:48]  Your belief, and there's some wrong, First time anybody's ever heard this, by the way.
[00:03:52]  Your belief, and if I'm wrong, is that under the Second Amendment, your real concern is that you will be overrun by a tyrannical regime, either from somewhere else.
[00:04:03]  Look at Mexico.
[00:04:04]  Total gun ban for the citizens.
[00:04:06]  Highest crime rate in the world.
[00:04:07]  57,000 people dead the last five years.
[00:04:10]  Total gun ban for the citizens.
[00:04:12]  Switzerland has the lowest crime rate in Europe.
[00:04:14]  Your country has the highest.
[00:04:16]  Alex, we have 35 gun murders a year.
[00:04:18]  You have 11,000.
[00:04:18]  People get their brains.
[00:04:19]  It's the higher crime rate.
[00:04:21]  Violent crime is higher.
[00:04:22]  It's brains.
[00:04:23]  It's people.
[00:04:24]  I'm trying to get inside your brains.
[00:04:26]  If you punch to me right now, it'd be not your fist, but your brain.
[00:04:30]  Alex, let me get inside your brain.
[00:04:32]  Okay.
[00:04:32]  Okay?
[00:04:32]  I'm serious.
[00:04:33]  You have a very, very big platform.
[00:04:35]  You air, I think, on 63 networks.
[00:04:38]  No, no.
[00:04:38]  Wikipedia is like 10 years old.
[00:04:39]  I'm on over 140 stations, XM.
[00:04:42]  Millions of Americans hear you every day.
[00:04:43]  Over a million and a half visitors to Infowars.com today.
[00:04:45]  And I congratulate you on your audience.
[00:04:46]  Where we have the statistics posted right now.
[00:04:48]  Infowars.com.
[00:04:49]  Who do you believe was behind 9-11?
[00:04:51]  Oh, I absolutely know.
[00:04:52]  I have the police on CNN saying get back, they're going to blow up seven.
[00:04:56]  I have BBC reporting.
[00:04:57]  Who do you believe is behind us?
[00:04:58]  I have the proof.
[00:04:59]  I heard them on CBS radio.
[00:05:01]  Who, Alex?
[00:05:01]  They announced they blew up the towers on CBS radio.
[00:05:04]  Who do you believe?
[00:05:04]  New Yorkers all saw it and heard it.
[00:05:06]  Alex, who do you believe?
[00:05:06]  They blew up building seven.
[00:05:08]  Alex, who do you believe was behind it?
[00:05:09]  The American government.
[00:05:10]  Criminal elements of the military-industrial complex, the same ones that staged Gulf of Tonkin, the same ones that staged Operation, the mass shootings of Operation Gladio.
[00:05:19]  Ooh, the CIA don't like this right now.
[00:05:22]  Do you mean that President Bush and his administration were behind 9 /11?
[00:05:26]  I mean that even mainstream news reported that the hijackers were ordered to be allowed into the United States.
[00:05:33]  Michael Springman, the head of the visa department, blew the whistle on that.
[00:05:37]  So the Bush administration was part of a conspiracy to murder thousands of Americans.
[00:05:43]  I can speak in this accent as well.
[00:05:45]  The government Hitler firebombed his own Reichstag, Pierce, to bring in martial law in Germany April 27, 1933.

=== Red Coat Deportation Threat (00:41) ===

[00:05:55]  Governments have staged terror attacks throughout history or allowed terrorists to attack as a pretext to invade and enslave the populations.
[00:06:04]  I probably own more than 50 firearms.
[00:06:07]  Many of them have increased in value two, three, or even four times.
[00:06:11]  I sleep very comfortably outside Austin, Texas, knowing that I can defend my family.
[00:06:17]  Okay, Alex Jones.
[00:06:18]  Infowalls.com.
[00:06:19]  This is the man who wants to deport me from the country for wanting to get rid of assault rifles.
[00:06:23]  No, no.
[00:06:23]  It's to point out you're a foreigner, a red coat, here telling us what to do.
[00:06:27]  Whatever.
[00:06:28]  Go back to where they took the guns if you don't like it.