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| Last week, Governor Jesse Ventura came to visit me in Austin, Texas. | |
| He's working on the second season of his hit television show, Conspiracy Theory for TruTV. | |
| But that's all coming up in the fall. | |
| While we were driving around, we had time to discuss some of the things that are on the Governor's mind, like naked body scanners in the airports. | |
| Homeland Security turning into the American Gestapo. | |
| He also told me about some of the behind-the-scenes stuff that he witnessed in his career in Hollywood with films like The Running Man and Predator. | |
| This is some pretty interesting stuff. | |
| So here's part of my discussion with Jesse Ventura as we were driving around Austin, Texas. | |
| No, just some of the stuff we've been doing, interesting-wise, is that I told you about what happened at the Kennedy Flame, didn't I? | |
| Yes, on the radio, but talk about it now on video. | |
| Well, what happened was we tried to go through proper channels, and more has evolved from it since then. | |
| We tried to go through proper channels and say, look, we want to film at the internal flame of John Kennedy. | |
| And we were first told, well, there can't be any dialogue. | |
| We said, that's fine. | |
| We don't need any dialogue. | |
| I'll just be solemnly standing there, hands folded, looking at the flame and in my thoughts. | |
| And they then came back officially and denied us. | |
| And they actually even said on the paper, because I went to my Congresswoman, Michelle Bachmann, because I was outraged over this. | |
| I said, how can they tell me I can't? | |
| You know, we just wanted to let them know, yes, we're going to do it. | |
| We ended up doing it, and in fact, it was typical government. | |
| The top wasn't communicating with the bottom, because when we came there, all the guards moved everybody out of the way so we could get the shot. | |
| You know, they cleared everyone out, because we said, it'll only take five minutes. | |
| And so they worked great for us when we got there. | |
| But the upper echelon, the guy actually said, it's because we don't like the content of your TV show. | |
| And I have it on paper in a letter to Michelle Biden. | |
| That's what they told the Congresswoman. | |
| So now the Army is deciding who can film at national parks according to what they agree with? | |
| Yeah. | |
| In essence, yes. | |
| Why? | |
| They did not like the content of my show, therefore they denied me a Navy veteran, a mayor, and a governor from being photographed in front of John Kennedy's eternal flame. | |
| Now, they also lied to the Congresswoman about this. | |
| They said that it had to be cleared through the Kennedy family. | |
| Right? | |
| So we contacted the Kennedy family and the spokesman for the Kennedys came back and said, we don't know what they're talking about. | |
| They said we have never had anything to do with Arlington Cemetery other than President Kennedy's buried there. | |
| But they said we have never had any jurisdiction. | |
| They said that falls under Arlington Cemetery. | |
| So this guy blatantly lied to the Congresswoman Bachman That it requires permission from the Kennedy family. | |
| And the Kennedy spokesman came back and said, we have nothing to do with that. | |
| We've never ever granted permission. | |
| We have nothing to do with it. | |
| And if I remember correctly, Governor, they also said we don't allow anybody to do stand-up shots there. | |
| But then we went and looked it up. | |
| There's all sorts of TV. | |
| The film JFK was shot there. | |
| Kevin Costner stood there and did it. | |
| So they were lying through their teeth on multiple things just simply because, as the guy said, he personally and the Army doesn't like the content of my shows. | |
| And that was quoted. | |
| And I'm getting back to the Congresswoman because she writes in the bottom, I hope this answers the problem. | |
| Well, no it doesn't. | |
| I want this guy fired. | |
| How can he bring his personal opinion into government policy? | |
| You know, that's ridiculous. | |
| So he sounds like a petty dictator with Mission Creep way outside his jurisdiction. | |
| Yes, and what right does he have because he doesn't particularly agree with what my show covers to deny me, you know, yet he'd approve someone else if he did agree with what they did? | |
| You know, that's not up to him, and it shouldn't be up to any government official. | |
| And the bottom line is, Alex, Arlington Cemetery is paid for by my tax dollars, and I'm a taxpayer. | |
| Well, they might just privatize it and give it to some foreign company. | |
| That could happen, too, but it hasn't been done yet. | |
| Well, the way they're doing it with water. | |
| Now, Jesse, I know the show's coming out in the fall, and I've been a consultant, been privy to some of the behind-the-scenes. | |
| It's looking like this season is going to be even more riveting and scary than the last one. | |
| It could be. | |
| How much can you talk about the other harassment and surveillance? | |
| Other harassment has been, we particularly wanted to go to an island to view it and I won't say at this time what island or anything like that but we hired a fishing boat and we got down there with our cameras and when he realized what we wanted to do he wouldn't do it and none of the other boats in the harbor would either and the reason is is homeland security | |
| Homeland Security now owns their licenses and livelihoods because anything on the borders falls under their jurisdiction. | |
| So if they tick off Homeland Security, Homeland Security can then pull their licenses and they can't earn a living. | |
| And so we finally did get a boat to come over from a different harbor, and it's kind of a funny tale because when he pulled up I knew we had the right man. | |
| You know how I knew it, Alex? | |
| How? | |
| He was flying the skull and crossbones from his mast, and I turned to the crew and I said, we got the right guy now. | |
| I said, anybody that flies the skull and crossbones from the mast, you know, and all he cared about, he said, you're not going to ask me to do anything illegal, right? | |
| And I said, no. | |
| We're going to be in, you know, international, national waters. | |
| But it's the intimidation and how there's now this total federalization of everything. | |
| Everything. | |
| We had talked about the... I'm viewing Homeland Security and what I'm seeing out of them, they're supposed to be there for our protection. | |
| I'm now referring to them as the Gestapo. | |
| They're the United States, or they could evolve into the United States Gestapo. | |
| I can see that on the horizon. | |
| About a year ago I asked you about the naked body scanners in the airport and you said you hadn't encountered them yet. | |
| Now you have. | |
| Yeah, in Denver. | |
| Give us your, what happens there? | |
| Well, they're just a big body scanner where they offer it to you much simpler than standing there with the guy with the wand. | |
| And you go inside this big huge booth and apparently they just Take a picture of your whole body from 360 degrees because it encompasses, you go inside the thing. | |
| And I now purposely don't go, I won't use them. | |
| I would rather be hand scanned. | |
| And of course when I go through an airport I'm pulled out every time because I've had prosthesis surgery of the hip. | |
| I have too much metal in my hip now and so I set the buzzers off no matter what airport I go to. | |
| So if I'm flying, it's an everyday occurrence for me to be hand scanned, you know, with | |
| just the wand and the human. | |
| But I refuse to go into one of those body scanners. | |
| Well, Governor, I want to tell you about something. | |
| It's just come out in the last few weeks. | |
| In the last year and a half since they've had these scanners in and now they're going | |
| into hundreds and hundreds of airports. | |
| They had lied and said we're not saving any of the images and we can't see your genitals. | |
| Now they admit they're saving all of the scans with your name and they're going in federal and state courthouses and they're scanning children, women, everybody and saving it and they got caught lying again. | |
| I mean, how many times does the government have to get caught lying? | |
| Well, the problem is, Alex, is even when they're caught lying, it's the government investigating the government. | |
| There's a major, you know, we can agree to that, there's a major conflict of interest when the government investigates itself. | |
| You know, we need to have some lawmakers set up something which is, you know, good luck on this, but we need some type of independent citizen organization to start, when something the government does requires them to be investigated, Why should they be investigating themselves? | |
| That would be like, Alex, if you and I were out in the regular world, and you committed a crime and they arrested you, and you got to say, well, okay, I get to lead the investigation of me, though. | |
| You know? | |
| Even though you've arrested me and you realized I've committed this crime, I will lead the investigation of myself. | |
| Well, that's like Al Capone being the judge that is on trial. | |
| Exactly. | |
| Good way to put it. | |
| Governor, speaking of Fox is guarding the hen house. | |
| What's your view on Wall Street now being given immunity for all the things they've done? | |
| The Federal Reserve setting up this private board and Congress passes a law saying that they get even more power out of the crisis they created. | |
| Well, it kind of reminds me of when they gave immunity to Blackwater in Iraq. | |
| After they slaughtered a bunch of innocent citizens in a big street shootout, Bremer goes over there and signs a piece of paper that Blackwater is not accountable for anything they did here. | |
| So I guess you could put Wall Street and Blackwater in the same sentence now. | |
| They're both receiving essentially the same benefits. | |
| Well, that's almost like diplomatic immunity with the United Nations, where these guys, these UN diplomats get caught having sex slaves, raping people, killing people, shipping drugs in, in diplomatic pounces. | |
| Well, it's... but yet we can learn from it, because I also read a great book on the wit and wisdom of Keith Richards. | |
| The Rolling Stones. | |
| And you know what Keith did, because you know Keith was always getting busted over in London, right, for everything he did? | |
| And Keith drives a big, huge Bentley. | |
| You know what he did, Alex? | |
| He took two foreign flags of the same country and stuck it on the front bumper, the front fenders of his Bentley. | |
| So whenever he'd drive around London, the cops would go, it's a diplomat car, let him go. | |
| No, is that brilliant? | |
| No, that's a great point. | |
| That way Keith could get away with anything he wanted to do and no one would arrest him because they thought he was a diplomat. | |
| Weren't you a bodyguard for the Rolling Stones? | |
| Yeah, in 78 and 81. | |
| I was a bodyguard for all the bands, not exclusively the Stones. | |
| I'd had some knee surgery and a friend of mine said, do you want to be security for the rock and roll bands? | |
| He was part of the production company that brought them into the Twin Cities. | |
| They said, we need bodyguards to protect the rockers when they come to town. | |
| I not only did the Stones, I did Springsteen, Foreigner, Grateful Dead, Marshall Tucker, | |
| I can't even remember all the... | |
| Bob Seger. | |
| I did, during that period of time, I probably did every great rock group there was. | |
| You got to see the show for free and you got even paid a couple of bucks. | |
| So it was a fun time. | |
| You can't beat that. | |
| On a lighter note, earlier I was talking about how much I like the movie Running Man and how your character is my favorite and that I also love you in Predator and everybody else thinks you're the best in Predator. | |
| But you told me about another ending of that movie that the public isn't aware of. | |
| Well, no one's aware of it now because I'm sure it's been burnt, gone. | |
| But they shot two endings to it. | |
| If you remember the Running Man, my character really got lost. | |
| Uh, my character was never resolved. | |
| After I killed Arnold on screen, that was all computer-generated and was false, of course, because, you know, Arnold didn't die in the film, naturally. | |
| My character was lost from that point, and they just left it that way, which is kind of unfulfilling in a way, but they shot an ending where In the end, when Arnold sees Maria Conchita Alonso, when they see each other and they walk forward to each other, they had a point where I would drop down from the ceiling and I've got Arnold dead in my sights. | |
| I can kill him deader than hell. | |
| And it looks like I'm going to, I squeeze the trigger, but two guards come in behind, I shoot them, and then the three of us walk out together. | |
| Captain Freedom ends up with Arnold, because as you saw during the evolvement of the film, I tend to decide, I grew more towards Arnold than the Stalkers, because of the big showdown I had with Killian, when he tried to give me all these gimmicks, and I said, this is a code of the Gladiators. | |
| You know, this is bullshit. | |
| We have a code. | |
| I've been killing guys like this with my bare hands. | |
| I don't need all this crap. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And he says, get out of here. | |
| We'll just use the computers. | |
| Yep. | |
| He said, get out of here. | |
| And so he, in essence, fired me. | |
| But at that point, my character was lost. | |
| And we see that same theme when the other big bodyguard, security guard, won't protect Gillian. | |
| When he says, aren't you going to do something? | |
| And he said, I have to go score some steroids. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah, that's Svan. | |
| Well, you know who Svan is, don't you? | |
| Yeah, he's in the Conan movies. | |
| No, Sven was actually, for many years, Arnold's body guy. | |
| Oh, really? | |
| Yeah, so Arnold would always put him in the films. | |
| Sven, if you look at just about every Schwarzenegger film, you'll see Sven somewhere. | |
| His real name is Sven Ole Thorsen. | |
| Great guy, you know, big, brutal power lifter from over in Denmark. | |
| Sure, but that was my point, is that he is one of the Norse guys in Conan the Barbarian. | |
| Yeah, yeah. | |
| No, you will see, well, he's in Predator. | |
| Think about it, Alex. | |
| Where did you see him in Predator? | |
| Where? | |
| I don't remember. | |
| He's in there. | |
| Sven is in Predator. | |
| What scene? | |
| Like in the early part when they're at the base? | |
| Nope. | |
| He's one of the Russians at the thing we overrun. | |
| Arnold kills him and he goes knock knock and opens up the door and boom. | |
| And remember Sven's in there with the papers and he shoots him. | |
| Sven's also the guy that shoots the helo pilot in the head. | |
| Remember when we're back and we haven't hit him yet? | |
| Yeah. | |
| And you see him drag out the pilot and boom. | |
| Shoots at that Sven. | |
| Shooting him in the head. | |
| Hi, this is former Governor Jesse Ventura, and this is the Alex Jones Show. | |
| I recommend you all pay attention to Alex, because Alex and I are teaming up again this fall for a second season of Conspiracy Theory, where we will attempt to get to the bottom of these conspiracies. |
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