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June 12, 2019 - Steve Pieczenik
04:41
OPUS 159 CIA & North Korea
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Hi, this is Dr.
Pachenec, and today I want to congratulate the CIA on exposing the fact that Kim Jong-un's half-brother was a source for the CIA. Quite frankly, I've been critical of the CIA, as have been many other people, but I'm quite impressed by their handling of North Korea.
For well over 30 years, the CIA, along with military intelligence, NSA, And other branches of our intelligence service has been very effective in monitoring what went on in North Korea.
When I was a DAS for East Asia, they would brief me on a daily basis and I was quite impressed that they understood both the dynamics of the individual leaders like Kim Il-sung, Kim Jong-un, and they understood the dynamics of the country.
They understood how it had been prosperous in the beginning and then it went into a famine.
And then they pointed out to me, as much as I had wanted to take down North Korea because it wasn't that hard, the CIA pointed out to me that I would have been wrong.
That if in fact I had opened up the borders of North Korea and allowed the famine and the people who were starving to come into South Korea, we would have flooded South Korea and it would have been a major problem.
So I was grateful for that type of intervention.
For the most part, the CIA has been very effective in North Korea.
My suspicion that they were in fact monitoring Kim Jong-un and his relatives came out a couple of years ago when the movie on Netflix came out about Kim Jong-un.
Now, that could not have been done without the CIA help.
I will not identify who the operatives, but I do congratulate the CIA in having made it available to everybody around the world.
The other part that was very important to me is the fact that the CIA explained to me how Juche, J-U-C-H-E, was the motive in underlying a dynamic of North Korea.
As Kim Il-sung, the father of North Korea, who ran it from 1945 to 1994, almost 50 years, said, we will be self-reliant, we will be a communist, we will be a socialist nation.
Unfortunately, it turned out not to be Exactly that way.
They had corruption.
They had killed many of their own dissidents.
The numbers vary from half a million to a million people who were arrested or executed.
But the point of fact was that North Korea was really open to overtures that the South Koreans could make and that the Americans could make.
One of the operatives with whom I worked with, it turned out, was a North Korean operative.
And had it not been for the counterintelligence in the CIA, I would not have known that.
And subsequently, that individual was taken out of the State Department.
I will not identify that individual.
But they had done a very good job of pinpointing who the operatives were that were influenced by North Korea, and many of them were Caucasians.
That was quite impressive to me as a dance.
For the most part, North Korea right now is a country waiting to be helped.
And why do I say that?
There are beaches there on the southeast of North Korea and they want to open it up and make it a tourist attraction by October 2019.
And Trump is the right person in the right place for the right time in order to make that type of deal.
With Kim Jong-un.
Now Kim Jong-un knows he has to open up North Korea.
There are no more missiles he can fire.
There's no more radiation that he can shoot out because it's really not a benefit to North Korea.
He knows that tourism, primarily by the Chinese, last year I think about a hundred thousand Chinese came into the southeast part of North Korea on the beaches was not enough.
He wanted to open it up to the world and the way he could do that was to establish a personal relationship I have a very good relationship with Kim Jong-un.
And I believe that Kim Jong-un will, in fact, make a deal with Trump.
My suspicion is it'll be around October of 2019.
I could be wrong, but I hope I'm right.
I would like to quote one of Maxine Waters' better comments in saying that if North Korea can't help herself, let America try.
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