Drew Hernandez joins Alex Jones to dissect Trump’s Venezuela stance, warning MAGA supporters reject military intervention amid skepticism of past CIA meddling and Epstein file dismissals. He highlights $200M AIPAC/Adelson influence over Israel policy, criticizing GOP figures like Lindsey Graham for abandoning America First principles, and ties immigration failures—such as NY’s 6,947 criminal releases—to broader globalist replacement migration schemes. Without accountability on deportations and election integrity, Hernandez predicts younger conservatives will abandon Trumpism, risking electoral collapse unless they demand uncompromising results over establishment co-optation. [Automatically generated summary]
You know, listening to you, listening to you the past 15 minutes and just kind of hearing this intel unfold.
I think the problem the Trump administration is going to have with this one is obviously what just happened in Iran over the summer, in the beginning of the summer, bombing Iran.
Now, obviously, everyone can have their own opinion and have their own angle.
Should we have done it to stop the nukes?
Is this just another neocon wet dream?
But here's the issue.
It really didn't fly over too well with independence.
It didn't fly over too well with many in the base.
Yeah, and that's kind of the point I'm getting to: is we're going to do this again now.
And now I'm thinking in terms of how is this going to be perceived?
How is this going to be received in America by MAGA, by the base, by America first?
Because it seems the Trump administration has a serious, serious problem getting the base on board with these types of things, attempting to accept that the Epstein files was a Democrat hoax, going to go and bomb Iran on behalf of Israel.
And now here we are.
Are we on the verge of another war with Venezuela?
Like I said, anybody can debate all day long.
Is this the right thing to do?
Is this the wrong thing to do?
Is it to actually combat election fraud?
Is it to go after the narcos and stop the importation of fentanyl?
Even though the majority of it is coming through Mexico, here's the issue.
I don't think it's going to fly over well.
And the reason is, is because nobody was talking about this during the campaign.
Now, we covered this campaign extensively, and not one time did we hear that there's a possibility that we might actually go to a ground war, maybe, possibly, or a war at all with Venezuela.
And these are the types of things, Alex, I think is really becoming problematic because it's a lot of wonderful.
Really smart on politics, really smart on theology of the Bible, knows what he's talking about.
And I struggle with this because I'm normally somebody that's very cut and dry.
I'm very decisive because it's been so easy for 30 years on air.
Plus, you've got the globalists.
None of us are in power.
They control Republicans and Democrats.
They control the major parties all over the world.
We're the opposition.
We're just challenging them.
It's so easy.
Now to get Trump in and they're banning the poison shots and not all of them, but a lot of them and getting the fluoride out and the dyes and banning the hepatitis shot because it's not recommending it, basically bans it.
They won't do it if it's not protected liability.
So I paradoxically see more good being done than ever.
Needle move massively for good, but then I see massive compromises and all sorts of bad stuff.
And it's very paradoxical.
And I pray constantly, God, what do I do about this?
And God just says, support the good and expose the bad.
But paradoxically, people say, oh, well, don't just say what if Kamala is in, but we should ask ourselves, what if they get in?
Like, how do we hold Trump's feet in the fire as people?
How do we get good outcomes when we can, criticize them when we can?
Because, you know, the larger question is, is Trump salvageable?
Well, I don't think it even matters.
It's not even a lesser of two evils.
It's use what we've got.
Like if you're in a ship in the ocean and it gets, you know, torpedoed and blows up, and you just jump on some driftwood to try to get to shore.
It's not like, oh, this driftwood's a lesser of two evils.
It's a driftwood I've got versus the Democrats.
They're a bunch of sharks.
So I wrestle with this because, you know, do I just fully go crazy against Trump, try to get him back in track, which I do some.
Then the left misrepresents what I've said, try to damage things.
It's very complex at this point to actually be trying to govern instead of just being the opposition.
I'm going to shut up now, but is Trump salvageable?
And I think because Trump is such a massive, obvious figure, you can say he's polarizing.
We know, right?
The most famous guy walking on the face of planet Earth.
But Trump resembles something that I think is going to need to be utilized for where, and I'll just use the right wing just for the sake of this conversation.
I think Trump needs to be utilized right now for where we really do want to take things.
Because if we cannot hold Trump accountable, if we can't hold the Trump administration accountable, if we can't do that right now, okay, in 2025, and again, for all these cucks out here that just cannot handle criticizing Trump, like I said, we don't, it's not that we hate him and we want him to fail and we kind of voted for this guy.
We need him to succeed.
My thought process is it's time to move forward because if we can't hold the president accountable of these very serious things just this past year, who the hell can we hold accountable?
What I'm saying, Alex, is there's a lot more to come.
I think there's a lot bigger and more dangerous and more evil and more twisted things that are on the horizon.
And if MAGA just wants to shill because they're so afraid, they just want to run cover for Trump all the time when there's some serious stuff going on right now.
Who are you truly going to look to in the future as a leader?
Like, no, dude, this is this, and this has been my problem for such a while.
From the very beginning, and you know this, Alex, the very beginning, like the inception, the birth of MAGA was the number one thing that attracted me the most as an independent.
I'm not a Republican.
Okay.
I'm sure as hell not a Democrat.
I am an independent.
I'm born again.
I'm a Christian.
The big thing that really attracted me of Trump in 2015, 2016 was we need to make America hold leaders accountable again.
And that's really was this massive draw to just take down the deep state, drain the swamp, mass arrests, lock Hillary up, just really just full sweep reform across the entire board.
And it just kind of seems like this past year, I don't know, Alex, it just seems like we're kind of going, we're so far away from that.
He's getting way more done this time than last time.
But the rhetoric is worse.
He is slapping us down on so many subjects and so many areas trying to kill populism.
And it's not just the Epstein thing.
It's a bunch of other issues where he's getting somebody's telling him to do that.
And that's what's bad.
So it's not just that he couldn't get it all done.
None of us expect that.
It's that he is slapping down populism at so many points and acting like a globalist, which in a way makes him endearing because he could just do us the rhetoric, but stab us in the back.
What I'm saying is, dude, you don't like you, you've built the perception that you, you have become the very thing that everyone got on board to oppose in 2015, 2016.
She's a great lady, but she didn't tell me this, but I predicted a week before she was going to quit.
She's like, we're not going to win and take him out.
I've got to go sue for peace.
That's a woman, great, smart lady at her level.
I ain't suing for peace.
I ain't selling out.
So that's my horror and not wanting to turn loose to Trump because I need him to succeed because 100%, Drew, they're already tried to indict me many, many, I mean, for me, and I can't sell out.
I don't know how.
So to me, giving up on Trump is like literally being in the North Atlantic, 20 below zero water.
I'm going to freeze in minutes and die.
And the thing is deflating in front of me.
And it's not, and I'm just like, I'm about to sink.
My point is because of that reality that many people have lived, because of that reality that many people face threat, because of that reality that many people face what we're facing with this satanic death cult.
And it's not just the Democrats.
And this has been my problem with Trump too.
Like, you want to excommunicate MTG, but buddy buddy up with Lindsey Graham on your damn golf course?
Like, that's why I made the point earlier.
I'm like, Alex, is he, is he okay?
Is he okay with facilitating allowing the rhinos come back in, take over the GOP, take over the Republican Party, but get out of here, MTG.
Goodbye.
Thomas Massey's the enemy.
And then you get these shills and these MAGA cheerleaders and these damn people that are just huffing copium 24-7.
Oh, you just got to, you know, keep your friends close and keep your enemies closer.
If that were true, then why isn't MTG closer to Trump if she's the true enemy?
But Lindsey Graham?
This is my point.
It's like, it seems like there is some kind of subversion happening again with MAGA.
There seems to be like the subversion of the neocon, kind of Paul Ryan, McCain, the Bush era is like making their way back in.
All these shills that end up, you know, in the White House press corps or whatever, a lot of them, I know them.
I love them.
But you get some of these people that are just unwilling to ask these very simple questions, you know, like, why, why is he doing this to his own base?
I'd use the analogy of I'm in a submarine at a thousand feet and the airlock starts leaking and I've got a tool that fixes it and the tool's not working perfectly.
I need the tool to work.
I mean, you know, to me, it's more like I have these nightmares.
I don't even call them nightmares.
I just have these dreams all the time now.
It's about work and the globalists.
And they're just dreams over and over again trying to fix things.
Over and over again, trying to fix things.
And I'm just like so frustrated because of all this.
I said I was going to get out of here, but this is great, Drew.
You take over.
I love you.
But yeah, this has been a great discussion.
And I know this.
Kissing Trump's ass is not going to get us where we need to go.
He does end up getting the messages the other day.
I'll leave it at that.
And I know he just wants to make deals, but he has to understand he can't trust these people.
No, we're going to get into a lot this evening that we have in the news and some more thoughts on obviously what's happening.
I did want to touch on this.
You know, Alex and I didn't even talk about this before the show, but I did want to touch on as we head into these 2026 midterms, you know, the state of the country, the state of MAGA, the state of where we are as the America first entity, where we need to go as well, because these conversations that drive us forward need to happen.
Okay.
And like I said, this isn't about hating Trump or, you know, we just desperately want Trump to fail because I'm paid by Qatar.
No, no, people just want to be right.
Okay.
It's not about just simply being right.
It's about the future of the country and the republic.
We are back and we are live this Sunday evening, this Sunday night.
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But to continue this conversation on this topic, to continue this topic, the future of MAGA, the future of America first, the future of where we see America going.
And, you know, obviously where we are right now in 2025, as we head into 2026 with these midterms, which are going to be critical.
I mean, you take a look at polymarket, you take a look at a lot of the projections.
And if the current trends continue with this so-called Republican performance, it's looking like Democrats might regain the House.
They might regain the Senate.
And what you're going to have is an even further sabotage, a further sabotage of the Trump administration, a further sabotage of anything Republicans attempt to do.
And also, you're going to get a series of impeachments, a series of impeachments, and you're going to get a lot, a lot, tens of millions of dollars of wasted money on witch hunts to impeach President Trump.
And this time around, you know, we saw that during the first administration, and obviously everybody came to the defense of President Trump as they should, because it was a witch hunt.
It was fake.
It wasn't real.
However, this time, what is obviously going to be problematic about this is it's going to be simply for that purpose.
It will be to waste time, to run out the clock.
And, you know, this is just my, this is just my advice to people in MAGA.
And like I told Alex just a few moments ago, through the MAGA hat on in 2015, 2016.
And so, you know, been, you know, obviously been watching every single step of the Trump administration and Trump entering the ring and U.S. political politics for over a decade now.
And one thing I will tell you, and I don't know what this is.
I don't know why this is.
I don't know if this is a part of just this uniparty psyop that we have in the United States of America.
It very well could be.
And I think a lot of people are sucked into that.
I think a lot of people are kind of going along with that if they truly are, you know, naive and they're unaware.
And maybe they really do think that everything is just Republican and Democrat in the USA.
And that's it.
There's no other way of thinking outside of that.
That's just your life.
I guess maybe there is in 2025, 2026.
Maybe, maybe, maybe there is.
Maybe there are people out there that think that's just how this country is.
It's not, by the way.
And that's why anybody that has any type of outside thinking, and when I say outside thinking, I mean anything that is clearly unorthodox to whatever the GOP approves or whatever the Democrat Party approves.
And that's kind of what MAGA was.
That's kind of what MAGA began as.
That's kind of what 2015 and 2016 was the launching pad of.
And it's strange because there does seem to be some kind of aspects of this turning away from that populist movement and morphing back into, as of right now, it just looks like it's being morphed back into this GOP, Republican Bush, Paul Ryan era, just right wing.
And by the way, I wanted to get to this with Alex because I wanted to encourage him.
And I hope he does hear this because of my faith in God and in Christ.
A lot of people will say, well, you're just blackpilling.
It's just doom and gloom.
It's just nothing but negativity.
I disagree.
I disagree.
I'm very encouraged.
I'm very hopeful.
I think the future is absolutely bright.
As bad as things may get, even if you do get a full Democrat tyrannical takeover in the United States of America, my faith and my stability in Christ, whether things are easy or not, never changes.
But with that said, and I think this is part of the mistake that a lot of people in the right wing or in MA, whatever it may be, I think this is part of the serious mistake that they've been making for the past few months is you have a lot of young people.
You have a lot of young people that are just simply demanding that this country be put first, that our country's bank account be put first.
You have a lot of young people, okay, that are more active now than they've ever been, that don't want this anymore.
They don't want the Bush-Paul Ryan era of the right wing anymore.
They don't want that brand of conservative politics any longer.
And that makes me happy.
That encourages me.
I don't think that it's the end.
I don't think that it's hopeless.
I don't think that even as I was speaking with Alex a moment ago, that moving on forward thinking, okay, from Trump, that's not to say like we hate Trump.
That's not to say that, you know, I just want nothing to do with Trump.
I'm just done and I'm done forever.
No, this is inevitable.
Okay.
What I'm describing tonight is inevitable.
It would have been inevitable if Trump died in Butler, Pennsylvania last year.
I think MAGA would have been forced to have to restrategize.
I think MAGA would have to have been forced.
Now, obviously, if that wasn't, you know, some kind of op to get us to go to war with Iran, which it very possibly could have been.
I mean, still to this day, Kash Patel is telling us that Thomas Crooks, he acted alone.
So just go back and enjoy your life.
MAGA would have been forced that day to recalibrate.
MAGA would have been forced that day.
And I'm not saying this is what I wanted.
I'm just speaking theoretically.
What does this thing look like without Trump moving forward?
And, you know, I pointed this out earlier with Alex is for some reason.
I don't know what this is.
I really don't know what this is, but within a lot of right-wing circles, conservative circles, there's this lack of like forward thinking.
There's this, I think that's why Infowars and Alex Jones has not because the Intel is not good, not because the information is not good.
It just seems like conservatives just always want to be like 10 years behind.
And I think that's always been a struggle for the InfoWarriors.
Shows like Alex Jones that put out this kind of information, you know, Agenda 2020, Agenda 2021, like these, these 30-year plans that are going to come and destroy the West and be like, it's a conspiracy.
You hear that a lot from conservatives.
Why?
For some reason, they just love it behind.
They love it from behind, like Lindsey Graham.
And it's weird.
It's very weird.
It's very strange.
But again, I'll say you still have an aspect of that right now.
I don't know.
I don't know if it's like a comfortability thing where people are afraid to go outside of their comfort zone.
But I'll tell you who is professional at what I'm describing.
I'll tell you who is the very best at what I'm describing.
Obviously, the Democrats and the left and the globalist satanic regime and foreign operatives all over the world.
They're always thinking in terms of the next 10 years, the next 20 years, the next 30 years, the next 50 years.
And sometimes I wonder if that's all a part of the uniparty theatrical political show, not just in America, but all over the world.
Just kind of keep us in that matrix.
It's left versus right, and you only got to care about politics every two years.
Anybody find that strange?
Anybody find that weird?
Just tune out.
Some people don't even pay attention the two years after the presidential election.
Some people only pay attention every four years.
And then even that, there are some people that just check out and don't pay attention at all.
And what really are elections, anyways?
Do we even actually have elections?
Is that fake too?
It seems like it now in 2025 and 2026.
So what really is going on here?
What really is going on here?
And I'll tell you that right now, that, you know, this administration, two things absolutely, absolutely 100% have to happen.
The mass deportations have to be delivered on.
We have to be by 20 million by 2028, period.
No exceptions, nothing less.
20 million by 2028.
We don't know what's going to happen in 2028, but also there needs to be serious election integrity.
Now, I don't know if Republicans are going to deliver on that before 2026.
We'll see, but they have to, because this is something people have to consider as well.
And I feel like this has kind of become a little part of the PSYOP when you think about it.
It's like this blend and this morphing of MAGA and the establishment GOP has kind of come together.
And to be honest with you, I really do see the excommunication by Donald Trump.
I see the excommunication of MTG out of MAGA literally simultaneously.
Literally, I don't know if it was the day of or the day after Trump is hanging out with Lindsey Graham on his golf course.
And all the MAGA cheerleaders are like, oh, you know, you got to keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
It's like, well, if that were true, then MTG would be in MAGA still right now.
MTG would be on that golf course with Trump smiling.
So come on.
I think that's there.
There are big indications, obviously.
And the indications have been seen for a while now, right?
With Trump taking over 200 million from the Israel Zionist lobby for the 2024 election.
That's why I think there's been a massive focus on foreign policy and Israel this first year of this administration, amongst obviously other things that they're focusing on and working on.
But that is a reality and people are sick of it.
But to go back to the point, you know, I'm not hopeless and I'm not discouraged and I'm not blackpilled because this has happened, because there is such a major outcry for accountability and more.
Okay.
That's what you've been seeing.
The mean tweets are not enough anymore.
The aggressive tweets and, you know, I'm still saying tweet, the truth social posts, they're not enough.
The slop, the MAGA slop, it's just simply not enough, right?
The results have to be delivered on major results, repetitive results, because you can't tell us we're in a golden age and we're kind of letting the judicial coup sabotage the mass deportations.
The Letitia James indictment was thrown out, blocked again.
It's looking like the James Comey refiling re-indictment might get thrown out again.
The judge just ruled, I think, yesterday or the day before, that they're being blocked.
The DOJ Justice Department is being blocked from some pretty critical evidence that pertains to James Comey.
And, you know, you take a look at just how effective these people are because here's the thing is you've got an entity out here that is willing to break the law.
You've got an entity, you've got Democrats, you've got these leftists, you got these Comey figures, you've got all these deep state operators, globalists, whatever you want to call them, foreign actors and operatives.
They're willing to break the law to win.
They're willing to break the law to win.
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And what seems to be miserably happening right now is for some reason, you've got Republicans in the GOP and you've got these, you know, so-called America First conservatives, you know, MAGA Republicans that are unwilling to seriously go max, as Charlie Kirk would say, and just swiftly drop the hammer of the law as aggressively as humanly and legally possible.
And, you know, what really is a shame is, you know, by October 2021, I think the Biden regime had around 700 arrests, just hunted down MA, J Sixers, indicted him, threw him in prison.
I think they had about 700 by October 2021.
Where are we at a year into this?
Now, listen, I'm not saying this because I want to be right.
I think this is where, you know, people start to get, oh, you're just complaining and you're nitpicking and like you're not grateful for anything.
Trump is doing, this administration is obviously doing positive things, but it's the most serious and important things that are not looking too good right now.
And there's nothing wrong with demanding that they get done.
There's nothing wrong with, and that's what I don't understand about this.
I don't understand how you got people in MAGA that are just like, you're a traitor, you're a pannikin.
You're just a complainer and you're ungrateful.
I think that's the big mistake, especially when it's a lot of younger people, Zoomers or millennials, even some Gen Xers that are coming around, right?
When you're just like shaming and you're like, shut up, just be quiet.
It's the equivalent to Democrats and the blacks.
You know what I mean?
The Democrats just are like, the blacks, we own the blacks.
We've got a plantation.
We only talk to them whenever we need votes.
The blacks will do whatever we say.
Yeah, maybe every now and then they'll try to, you know, escape from the plantation and they'll try to go to a different slave master or they'll try to think for themselves.
But we've got methods.
We've got methods for that.
We'll just turn off snap and we'll get the blacks back on the plantation like that.
They'll forget within a second, right?
That's the mentality of your typical Democrat.
We all know this, right?
But it just kind of seems like that same dynamic is happening now, right?
It's weird and it's strange and I don't like it.
And I guess I'm speaking as an independent.
I don't speak for all independents, but maybe other independents will kind of relate to what I'm saying and relate to what I've been feeling is there just seems to be like this GOP version of this, right?
There seems to be like this neocon right-wing GOP establishment version and plantation, where obviously if it's like, if you're not Israel first, you're not welcome here.
I mean, didn't Lindsey Graham just say, was it at the Republican Jewish Coalition Conference?
If you got anti-Semitic thought, there's no place for you in the GOP.
Like, oh, obviously you're going to struggle to build the same coalition that Trump built in 2024.
You had independence.
You had Make America Healthy Again.
You had the anti-war group.
You had all the Bitcoin bros.
You had this massive coalition that was built and it won.
Well, I can tell you right now, over the past year, a lot of that coalition has literally been self-destructed.
I know Tim Poole talked about this on his show the past couple of weeks because of his, I don't wouldn't say fallout with TPSA, but his, I guess, fallout coming to Anthest this year, the TPSA Anthest conference.
You know, it seemed that based off of his own statements, it seemed Tim kind of felt like, well, I'm, you know, the kind of more centrist, independent, obviously unorthodox, not super right-wing guy isn't really needed anymore.
Seems like you guys don't need that any longer.
And maybe they want to rebuild this old school GOP establishment, Paul Ryan, Lindsey Graham, crap and slop and Bush dynasty, right?
And this, and the question is, obviously, when you're thinking electorally, you're not going to win an election like that if it's free and fair.
But that's the question.
If it's free and fair.
Do the GOP Republicans actually care about election integrity?
I know Donald Trump does because he literally had an election stolen from him.
But where were all those GOP shills?
I know where MTG was when they stole the election.
I know where she was.
I know where Lindsey Graham was not.
I know where Mike Pence was not.
All these GOP establishment shills, they weren't supporting the president.
I'll tell you that right now.
What am I saying?
What I'm saying is, is it possible that the GOP Republican Party doesn't really care about secure elections because they may benefit from that too?
I mean, if you really got a uniparty, if you really got a system that's all fake and gay and it's propped up and our votes really don't count, and I'm not saying this to discourage people from voting, I just, it just kind of seems this way, doesn't it?
Why don't these people care about election integrity?
It seems Trump does.
And this has been my criticism of Trump.
I know Trump, listen, dude, when you get into politics, all right, you have to learn to work with people that you may not like.
You have to work, you have to learn to work with people that you may not get along with.
I fully understand that.
It doesn't mean you have to compromise on your values, but that's just how it works in order to get something done, right?
For the greater good.
That's the mentality.
That's the thinking.
And I think Alex has talked about this a few times, right?
Yeah, we knew that you were going to be in the swamp and you'd have to, you know, work with some of these swamp creatures to get things done, but we didn't, you know, are you joining the swamp is the question, right?
Because obviously Trump cares about election integrity, but the big question, and this has been my concern, especially with the excommunication of MTG, is why is he at the least?
I'm not sure I can prove he's facilitating, but why is he at the least allowing MAGA to be subverted by the neocon establishment swamp?
I don't have an answer to that question.
I can tell you what I think.
I think it all has to do with what unifies them and what's the one thing that unifies them.
It's Israel.
That's what I was telling Alex earlier.
Clearly, I think a deal was made somewhere.
Somewhere a deal was made and it's led to where we are now.
And with all of the political theatrics that have been going on the past year, listen, because I think there are millions of people out here that genuinely care about the country.
They genuinely care about the future.
They're where we are and we were in 2015, 2016.
America first never changed.
The whole MAGA ideology never changed.
It just became more neocon, Bush era dynasty.
It just became more of that over the past few years.
And then, and then if you even talk like this, these same people turn around and they tell you, no, you're the problem.
They try to gaslight you.
Like, no, you walked away from MAGA.
I never once came out and said, you know, I don't support Trump anymore.
You know what?
I'm just absolutely done and he doesn't have my support anymore.
Whoever said that.
He said that.
He said that when he, when, when, when whatever was going on in that administration in his head, when they tried to get the entire base to buy this, it's a Democrat hoax.
The Epstein files is a Democrat hoax.
You still want to talk about this.
And if you continue with this, you're no longer a supporter of mine.
I don't want your support anymore.
What I'm saying is I'm seeing some parallels and similarities, especially this past year.
And you've got to be concerned about these things.
And if you're unwilling to discuss these things, we can't change these things.
We can't go anywhere.
If we can't hold Donald Trump accountable to some of the most important things that need to be completed, that need to be delivered on.
It's never, you're never, you're never, you won't hold anybody accountable.
Now, I know Alex was asking earlier, you know, is it salvageable?
I mean, I don't think that's the question.
I think the question is more of, and this is, you know, no disrespect to Alex.
I, you know, I said it.
I'll say it again, is it's it's more of, you know, a moving on because I see something is forming where the GOP is clearly attempting to subvert MAGA, America first, and what was born in 2015 and 2016, because they know the vehicle is powerful, but they hate it if they can't control it.
They know the vehicle has major political potential, but they hate it if they can't control it.
And they need to neutralize it if they cannot control it.
And this has been my concern.
And I say this in love.
Maybe President Trump thinks he can manage the swamp snakes in DC.
Maybe he thinks he can do it this time.
Maybe he thinks he can outmaneuver them.
But I think he's wrong if that's where his mentality is.
Because what's happening is it's not just you or the White House or the administration that they're attempting to subvert.
It's the entire movement.
It's literally the entire movement.
And you know what?
If people want to get mad at me for not allowing that to happen with the influence that I have, then so be it.
I don't care.
It's either America first or we have nothing.
It's either we're America first or we have nothing.
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But let me wrap up these thoughts on the future of MAGA and where we're at with Trump.
I want to complete that thought that I had before we went to break.
This subversion that is, it's clearly happening.
And if people in MAGA are afraid to address it because they don't want to be called a traitor or a panic in by the MAGA cat turd guy on X, it's just going to happen right before your very eyes.
It's just going to happen right before your very eyes and before you know, because it's already happening, you know, getting people to get on board with a possible regime change operation in Venezuela.
We were on the verge of another regime change operation in Iran.
The late and great Charlie Kirk literally had a meeting at the White House to express his grievances as to why he thinks that shouldn't happen to President Trump himself, right?
And several other like neocon, very, you know, traditional Bush era right-wing.
And when I say right-wing, like this whole like, you know, Paul Ryan, you know, cookie cutter, conservative, everything that kind of predates MAGA, there seems to be this push, and the push is coming from within the establishment GOP.
And the big question is, how far are you going to let these people take things backwards?
That's the question.
Let's just cut to the chase.
How far will you let these people take us back?
And how far will you allow them to erase it?
Because I'll tell you what they do want.
What they do want is they want something like that, but they don't want something like that that they cannot control.
And I already said this, but we have to reiterate this because what these people fear are numbers.
They fear numbers because they know numbers can seriously change things.
Now, I'm not talking about violence.
Even a free speech, peaceful political revolution is damaging and is dangerous.
And by the way, that's exactly what we've really been experiencing with independent media just the past few years.
And a lot of these establishment figures are very angry.
A lot of foreign countries are very angry.
A lot of foreign operatives are not happy because independent media has kind of really opened up more conversations surrounding these types of things that the neocon, kind of like the Israel first lobby machine, has always really had their hand on.
Well, that's gone away.
That's disappeared because you have independent media, because you have platforms like Infowars, because you've got massive voices out there that are challenging the establishment, challenging the narrative, whether it's in America or whether it's globally, that are challenging what we're all told we're allowed to accept when it comes to the mainstream narratives or the establishment narratives, whether it's coming from the Democrat side or the Republican side.
The question is, how far are you going to allow these people to take us backwards?
Do you want to go back to that?
It seems like that's kind of where we're going.
They will take it there with all these neocons that are seeing it this way too.
And the reason why I feel very comfortable with this analysis is because we all know this is exactly what they have their eyes on.
They have their eyes on the prize.
And the prize is MAGA.
It's the base.
Will they be able to effectively and efficiently subvert it or not?
Now, I know a lot of young people are hearing me and they're saying, absolutely not.
That's why we're so loud.
That's why we've been expressing these grievances louder and louder and louder.
And we don't care who gets offended because this is about the future and we are not going backwards.
There is no plantation for us.
I think if you shame that, that's a big mistake.
We'll be right back.
And I just want to, you know, leave these final comments for any young people.
I want to address the young people.
Don't let these people out here discourage you.
Don't let these people out here gaslight you.
Don't let these people out here attempt to convince you that you're being negative or you're being blackpilled for simply wanting to put America first.
Whatever slander may come your way, whatever accusation or name calling, whatever type of lie that gets thrown in your face, whether it be on social media or off social media, I think that's part of the op.
You want to know why?
Because they're afraid of you.
They're afraid of us.
They want things to remain the same.
They want things to remain the way they've been.
Let's just say the past 70 years.
They don't want things to continue in the name of populism or America first, or no longer putting any foreign interest first, whether that be Israel or Ukraine or China or wherever it may be.
That's part of the PSYOP.
That's part of the tactic.
And we've been experiencing this for a while now where, well, you come out and you tell the truth.
You're going to get blacklisted.
You're going to get sued into oblivion.
You will be designated.
You will be excommunicated.
You will be known as radioactive and nobody, nobody can listen to you, affiliate with you, work with you.
Nobody.
Sound familiar?
Don't be intimidated by these people.
Keep speaking up.
If anything, get louder.
Remain peaceful, but get louder.
Double down, triple down, quadruple down.
Do not stop.
And I know a lot of young people, they're hearing what I'm saying, and I know they need to hear it because it does get discouraging after a while.
But at the same time, my question to you is this.
If not you, who?
If you've got an entire generation out there, if you've got an entire entity out there that is telling you, stop it, be quiet.
You're too negative.
You're blackpilled.
Just fall in line.
Just know your place.
Stop complaining.
Just be grateful.
All for putting America first.
Those are people that want to hold the country back.
Those are people that want to keep things the way that they've been going for the past, let's just say, again, 70 years.
They don't want anything that is truly free.
They don't want anything that is outside of the establishment.
They don't want anything that is truly going to not only put America first, but put our children first, our families first, our wives.
If you're a woman and you're married to a man, your husband's first.
Don't let these people discourage you.
I know a lot of young people get this crap all the time.
Because if you've got an entire generation out here that's just repeatedly, repeatedly wanting you to stay in the same place over and over and over and over again, well, that means that you're probably over the target.
And I would get even more based.
I would get even more difficult.
I would get even more loud.
You can call that trolling.
That's fine.
But in the name of peace and free speech and advocacy, I think being attacked for simply putting America first is a pretty damn clear indication that you are directly over the target.
And that's why I said what I said earlier, because I want to communicate this to young people tonight: it's not blackpilled.
It's not negativity.
It's not anything like that.
Your literal, and by the way, this is always like the cream of the crop.
This is always the grand prize.
This is always the holy grail.
Who could capture and win the youth or the next generation?
Who could win the hearts and the minds of the next generation?
And it's just kind of weird.
Think about it.
It's just kind of weird, especially this past year, that you've got an entire conservative GOP right-wing establishment in a certain age group range that is just constantly and consistently wanting to talk down to and to dunk on and write off and disregard and excommunicate the next generation of the right wing.
So what is it that these people want?
They're not going to live forever.
What is it that they want?
Like they can't, like these people can't be, oh, oh, we're just going to get AOCs and Mamdanis.
We're going to get that because of you because you won't get on board with the subversion of MAGA.
No, that's your fault.
That's your fault.
You can't just force people to fall in line with the establishment, fall in line with the subversion, just get on the plantation just like the Democrat base does.
It's not going to work.
It will not work that way.
And I encourage the young people to peacefully rebel against that.
Put America first.
Christ is king.
Does that bother these people?
Then so be it.
We don't want some cucked out country any longer.
The cucked out right wing can't handle it anymore.
The conservatives literally don't have a spine in their back.
These people can't lead us to where we need to go.
Clearly, look around you.
The rhetoric doesn't cut it.
People are barely enforcing the laws on the books.
And yes, we know they're coming.
Oh, so you'd rather have Kamala?
No.
Because we know that those things are coming is why we're saying what we're saying.
But any of the young people out there that, I don't know, maybe you do get discouraged or maybe sometimes you get convinced that maybe there is something wrong with me.
If I don't keep it based, if we don't keep it America first, if we don't keep pushing the limits, and this was the point I was trying to make earlier, we need to do that with Trump right now.
In my opinion, I think that is our only option to truly shift the Overton window politically in the sense of, okay, if we're going to continue with this path of attempting to navigate and maneuver with our version of subversion in the Republican Party, right?
We've got to start with Trump.
We have to.
We have to start with holding him accountable.
We have to start with pressing him on these serious, on these very serious issues because we need him to succeed.
We want him to succeed.
This is not about wanting him to fail, but if you're not going to be able to do it to Trump right now, you're not going to be able to do it to JD Vance in 2028.
What are you going to get a Marco Rubio?
Are you going to get some establishment shill?
And then what?
Well, the subversion will probably even be further completed at that point.
And rhetoric is not enough, my friends.
I'm not talking about acts of violence.
I mean delivering on policy, delivering on serious campaign promises, delivering on what was obviously discussed with the American people.
Rhetoric is not enough.
And it just feels weird.
I'm like, why am I saying this?
Why am I saying these things out loud in 2025?
Didn't we just get through this 10 years ago in 2015 and 2016?
But, you know, I think obviously the discussion needs to be had because I know these discussions are taking place within the Rhino GOP.
Democrats are maneuvering in their way.
They know the days of Nancy Pelosi are coming to an end.
Chuck Schumer, the generational shifts are happening.
Okay?
They are happening.
And we're already starting to see the effects, but the big electoral effects, the transfers of power, and obviously U.S. government are starting to be felt.
You got to ask yourself, nobody is going to have this conversation for you.
Nobody is going to advocate for this for you.
Nobody is going to move forward in this direction for you other than you.
And if you allow it, you will see more MTGs excommunicated.
You will see more based actual America First Patriots excommunicated out of MAGA.
You will see more and more and more and more.
And by the way, I think they're doing all of this in the name of you're an anti-Semite.
You're an anti-Semitism.
To me, that's clearly the op that they're running right now.
And it works.
It works for them.
And people fall for it.
That's so sad, dude.
You know, all for a damn foreign country.
All for a damn foreign country.
And yeah, that is damaging because people always say it's such a tiny little country.
We've got bigger problems all over the world.
We know we have problems, but for some reason, you're not allowed to really address this one to begin with and attempt to solve it peacefully.
Isn't that weird?
You get blacklisted and you get excommunicated.
And a lot of young people breaking news are sick of it.
Absolutely sick of it.
And no longer want any part in it.
Period.
I'll show you an example.
Just to get to some of this news.
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Trump declares war on the third worldification of the United States.
Now, obviously, President Trump knows how to make big statements when he knows he needs to.
But President Donald Trump has condemned the Heart Seller Act of 1965 as the catalyst for America's ongoing immigration catastrophe, signaling a potential full-scale reversal of policies that have diluted the nation's historic white ethnic core.
The bombshell rhetoric, keyword, exploded across social media platforms this week, igniting cheers from America First Patriots who view the 1960s law signed by Democrat President Lyndon B. Johnson as a deliberate plot to flood the United States with non-European migrants and erode its founding demographic identity.
So obviously Trump amplified this on his own Truth Social account.
And this is the thing.
This is the thing about President Trump with these statements.
And I think people have to consider this because this is what politicians do.
You can say all the right things, but you can say all of the based things.
You can say everything that you know your base wants to hear.
But if it's not delivered on, it becomes a problem.
If it doesn't translate or if it does not transform into policy and something that is obviously country changing, right?
Then you're going to get more and more and more and more distrust, more and more and more and more obvious grievance.
And you're going to get more and more and more people that are searching for something real.
And I think that's what it comes down to for a lot of a lot of people too.
You know, you got a lot of young people out here that are just like really tired of everything that's synthetic, especially in this world of AI, especially in this world of computing and everything seems to be back engineered and it's just a lack of authenticity.
You get this in your so-called content.
You get this in so-called movies, even music these days.
And that's what I think, I think that goes hand in hand with this overwhelming desire for something real and tangible and based, absolutely based and effective, especially in America for U.S. politics.
You're not going to be able to serve this kind of stuff anymore.
That's the point I've been trying to make all night.
It's not going to work.
It will not work.
It cannot work.
The mean tweets, the rhetoric.
I'm telling you right now, you're going to get a bunch of candidates.
They can buy into this plan and they can buy into it with $1,000 deductible and never have to pay more than 8.5% of their income when they do it.
And if they don't have any money, they'll get in free.
So this idea is a bunch of malarkey.
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The technical issues plaguing the Obamacare website rollout are only part of the problem.
Many who've managed to navigate the system, gotten quotes, planned to sign up, are now saying no thank you.
They're finding the Affordable Care Act is unaffordable, at least for them.
Their health care company has informed them their current plan will cease in the next year because it doesn't comply with the Affordable Health Care Act.
She needs to find a new plan.
So Christy, a part-time teacher and her husband, who owns a video company, went online and after a week of trying, finally figured out just what kind of insurance she could get under the Affordable Care Act.
And for her, it seems unaffordable.
It really truly is a tapeworm on the economic system.
I mean, it is eating up instead of $170 per person in 1960 when we actually thought we were doing pretty well in this arena to over $10,000 per person.
Just think of that: $10,000 per person.
You know, a family of four.
I'm balanced.
$40,000 of DDP going to just one aspect of their lives.
More than a decade before the Affordable Care Act's disastrous consequences became undeniable, Alex Jones, Michael Snyder, and Mike Adams repeatedly warned that Obamacare was deliberately engineered not to fix health care, but to break the private insurance market and force America into a government-run single-payer system.
And the law's built-in mechanisms, mandates, subsidies, and regulatory overreach that would inevitably drive premiums higher, cancel existing coverage, and create complete chaos.
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We did fail to bring down the cost of health care.
Our crew had some issues with some CPU issues on the back end.
But back to what I was saying, back to what I was saying.
I'm going to end with this thought, not the transmission, but just this section.
This is a massive issue to white Americans, a massive issue regarding this statement that President Trump made or reiterated, amplified on his truth social, declaring war on the third world, efficiency of the United States.
And see, these are the types of things that not only need to be said, but they need to be acted on because these are not only national damaging things, but they are globally damaging things.
I mean, just look at Europe.
Look at Germany.
Look at France.
Look at all these portions of the world with replacement migration.
Not only changing the culture or the language, but the demographics and the race within eroding and erasing white people all over the world.
And you see this with the rhetoric with critical race theory.
You see this taught to children at a young age.
You see this in culture where it's okay.
It's totally okay to be a racist against a white person.
It's totally okay.
It's totally okay.
You can do that in public.
You can do that on TV.
You can do that just about anywhere.
You can do it in school.
You can do it in a preschool.
You can do it anywhere.
You can do that absolutely anywhere.
But, you know, you criticize, you even hurt the feelings of a black person, a brown person, anybody else.
No, you are basically Lucifer and Satan themselves.
But, you know, this full-scale assault against white people, you know, you see these deeper underlying issues where you see a lot of these regime change wars going on in the Middle East that have been going on for a long time.
Syria, all these different portions, Afghanistan, all over the world, where that mass migration starts happening in waves.
They get pushed out of Syria.
They get pushed out of here.
They get pushed out of there.
And they go to France or they go somewhere in Europe.
A lot of them were being imported to the United States of America the past few years.
And we have to pay for that in many ways.
And at the end of the day, it's for a lot of regime change wars that do benefit Israel in the region.
And a lot of that mass migration comes from that as well.
And we have to pay for it, like I said, not only monetarily, but quite literally with our lives.
And then simultaneously, while it's happening, there's a full-scale assault to accept it, to hate white people, to demonize white people because of the color of your skin.
And it's an entire psyop based off of obvious lies and slander and character assassinations because they go hand in hand with the replacement migration.
And you see this all over the world.
We saw this for four years with the open border, with the Obiden regime between 2021 and the end of 2024.
But this full-scale assault against white people is not just necessarily, and I think this does get lost in translation a lot.
It's not just like a war that is amongst, you know, against white adults or like a white husband or a white mother.
It's children.
It's little kids.
It's like this systemic decade-long attempt to not only assassinate the character, but in some way, shape, or form.
And then you bring in infanticide into this and you try to rise those numbers and And then sending white men to war, telling white people that they need to annihilate themselves, not procreate.
Like an extended genocide, if you really think about it.
And these people are allowed to get away with it because you get shut down as a racist if you bring it up.
Even if you're not white, that should let you know that's going on.
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I did want to hit on this situation coming out of with the Somalians, right, out of Minnesota,
where we are seeing more and more of the Trump administration ICE attempt to target the criminality and obviously the corrupt operations that have been going on in Minnesota and these obviously very, very targeted regions in the country.
And also New York, right?
Also New York as well.
We have this article from The Gateway Pundit.
New York has released nearly 7,000 criminal illegals with active ICE detainer requests back onto streets since Trump took office.
Lawless Attorney General Letitia James prosecuting local sheriffs for working with ICE.
The state of New York has repeatedly released nearly 7,000 illegal aliens from jail, including 29 individuals who were linked to homicide cases in defiance of ICE detainer requests.
Per the Department of Homeland Security, 6,947 illegals have been released after committing 29 homicides, 2,509 assaults, 199 burglaries, 305 robberies, 392 drug offenses, 300 weapon offenses, and 207 sexual predatory offenses.
Now, you know, we see this, you know, repeatedly, like I said, New York and Minnesota, et cetera.
You see this foreign invasion continuing to destroy the lives of Americans.
And so when you hear people, right, when you take a look at this, you know, Somalian invasion, when you take a look at these, you know, third world invaders from all over the world that are obviously coming in and they're wreaking havoc on the lives of America and they're raping our women and children.
When you hear people complaining about not enough deportations as quick as possible, now we know the Big Beautiful bill is supposed to be implemented and fully activated over, obviously, you know, the course of the next year, et cetera, with more ICE agents being deployed and hired around the United States.
Whenever you hear somebody expressing their grievance that we don't have enough deportations as of yet, that these people just continue to be released and the judicial coup and to the Trump administration's credit, we have had, I think, a couple hundred federal judges fired and replaced as a result, but there definitely needs to be more.
The criticism comes from life or death.
The criticism comes from it could be your daughter that gets raped by an illegal because they haven't been deported in time.
The criticism comes because we all know just how destructive and dangerous this really is.
We know it's real.
We know it's obviously not a conspiracy.
And we're not sitting around waiting for an election to be one to do something about it.
I mean, if I mean, with the numbers right now, I think are going to be maybe around 300 to 500K deportations.
And you add the self-deportations to that just this past year.
It will be maybe around 3 million.
It's got to be way more than that.
I mean, look at these numbers.
Look at the destruction of those numbers of these people being re-released that are running the streets of America.
And if they encounter your family, this is why I keep telling people it's all about accountability.
This isn't about making Trump look bad.
This is about getting what you voted for.
This is about protecting the lives of Americans.
Now, obviously, we know New York is out of control, but that's why I thought that little meeting with President Trump and Zorhan Mamdani was kind of a bad look.
Do we really think Zorhan Mamdani is actually going to shock conservatives and maybe actually do a good job?
Now, all of a sudden, we trust the Muslim commie?
Absolutely not.
We know things are going to get worse and people are going to die as a result.
This isn't about being right.
This isn't about, oh, I got it right.
Nobody wants to be right about whether somebody's going to die or be raped or not or lose their life.
That's why so many people are calling on more and more and more of accountability and more and more and more deportations.
And like I said earlier, the fate of the Republic truly does depend on these things.
You guys know exactly what the left will do if this deportation operation fails.
And it's not enough to say, well, you can't blame Trump.
You can't blame ICE.
It's the crooked judges.
Well, then ignore the judges at the least.
Mass deport.
Lives are at stake.
The country is at stake.
And if we actually do get election integrity, elections are at stake.
You know what these people are going to do.
You get a Gavin Newsom, President Gavin Newsom, 2028 Gavin Newsom, inaugurated 2029.
You know they will launch mass amnesty to the 30 to 50 million illegal aliens in this country.
They will not hesitate.
They are ready and they are just prepared to make that happen because they know how close they truly have come.
That's what MAGA has proved itself to be.
It proved itself to be an actual serious contender, a threat to the deep state, the establishment, the foreign lobbies, whatever you want to call it.
We truly are a threat to the mass migration, to the open borders, the pedophile rings, all these operations on both sides of the aisle that have been going on.
I mean, why do you think they moved so quickly to push Elon Musk out of the picture?
Why do you think they moved so quickly to somehow, some way cause some friction between Elon Musk and Donald Trump?
We've got to destroy that, somebody thought.
They're getting too close to the money.
This is way, way, way too close.
And I think it was, and I'm a fan, by the way.
I want to make sure that I get this right.
I saw a post and I believe I commented on it by Mark Mitchell.
And like I said, I'm a fan for sure.
But I did respond.
And if the team wants to look at my ex feed, it's like the fourth tweet down.
You'll see it.
I retweeted.
I even think Alex retweeted it.
But Mark Mitchell of Erasmus and Reports said, quote, I don't even think Trump needs to fix the economy if he was just successful at draining the swamp.
And I quote tweeted and said, these two things are literally connected directly.
And I wasn't throwing shade at Mark, nothing like that.
I think that's true.
I think it's absolutely true.
And I think this kind of like, you know, there it is right there.
These two things are literally connected directly.
Shout out to the crew, best crew on planet Earth and Forrest crew.
Those two things are directly connected.
You cannot fully effectively fix the economy without draining the swamp.
Now, I say that in an actual long-term way.
Why do you think these people moved so quickly to somehow, some way kind of like disperse Doge, right?
Decentralize it.
They tried to say, we're going to decentralize Doge.
And, you know, and then there's been speculations about, you know, what was the real purpose of Doge?
Was it an information?
Was it an Intel op?
But one thing we do know is that clearly something, something was run to cause a wedge between Donald Trump and Elon Musk.
And we've seen over the past few months that, you know, they're at events together, right?
They're doing handshakes.
Maybe they'll be friends again.
I'm not quite too sure we'll ever see.
Now, we know that Elon's capacity in the federal government was to expire, right?
We knew that from the beginning.
But also at the same time, I think there definitely was, and we heard this right from the get-go, right?
It was supposed to be Elon Musk and Vivek, right?
We're supposed to kind of be like the leaders of Doge and there were some disagreeances going on.
There was some friction and Vivek left.
Elon stayed.
Some months go by, literally a couple months go by.
And all of a sudden, Elon Musk is posting on X that Donald Trump is in the Epstein files.
Like it was pretty brutal, you know?
It's pretty brutal.
I just got to ask yourself, why wouldn't somebody want Elon so close to the money, right?
Exposing everything USAID is doing, everything that these crooked politicians and their committees and their programs overseas, we know that are a lot of, you know, CIA front groups.
But where's the accountability on that one?
You know, who's going to go to prison for that, Bondi?
How many politicians, left and right, that have been participating in not only bankrupting the country, but they're money laundering, right?
Embezzling using our taxpayer money, we know this is going all over the world.
How many of those people are going to be held accountable?
People that made decisions, people that gave the green light, people that are benefiting from that.
And obviously not just recipients, right?
So-called Americans and traders that, you know, criminals that do these things, but actual, you know, deep state operators, because it takes people in power to facilitate something like that.
Aren't these the types of things you voted for?
Is it a little too much to ask for?
Maybe, but it's what we need.
It's necessary.
If you really want to fix the economy, in my opinion, again, these two things go hand in hand.
I think a lot of our debt really isn't debt, if you think about it.
How much of our money just literally goes all over the world, military-industrial complex, never-ending wars, never-ending mansions for these damn politicians that end up with net worths in like the tens of millions of dollars somehow in less than like 10 years?
Yeah, when are those people going to be investigated and go to prison?
And we know Letitia James, the you know, Adam Schiff and the mortgage fraud, et cetera, but you know, that's really not enough.
And a lot of these crooked rogue judges we know are just going to sabotage everything.
But accountability needs to happen, it needs to happen absolutely and immediately and swiftly.
But again, you know, the point to you know, what I responded to Mark Mitchell was, you know, I just think that if you're really going to drain the swamp, I think it's going to cost us, I mean, obviously it's net positive, but draining the swamp is going to require a lot of people, obviously going to prison, but a lot of strings that have been pulled for a very long time that are connected to a lot of revenue.
Now, I know I think Alex Jones, I may be, you know, correct me if I'm wrong, has speculated that, you know, maybe Trump has had concerns about a disastrous economic fallout by releasing the Epstein files.
If that's true, I don't agree with that.
Let the chips fall where they may.
I think if that were the case, I think that makes Trump even more of a coward, to be honest.
But if we're truly going to have like a serious reform and we're truly going to drain the swamp and we're truly going to get down to the bottom of these types of corruptions, it's going to require pulling off some band-aids and ripping some scabs.
That's going to create some serious pain.
But the healing in the end is where we need to be and where we need to go, right?
Metaphorically speaking.
Now, I mean, to be completely honest, I said this earlier.
I do think that we will see an economic turnaround in Trump's presidency over these next three years.
Because I try to be as fair as I possibly can.
I think we will see a turnaround with the tariff revenue and obviously Trump's policies that benefit the United States economically are definitely things that I think a lot of people will start to see the fruit from.
Now, we know Trump has talked about this many times, like some of this stuff you'll start to see in the next 10 years.
But, and I know Alex said this earlier too.
It's like the messaging has been horrible.
And I agree, you know, like you're pushing 50-year mortgages and you're like shaming people, kind of insinuating that the affordability crisis is not a real thing.
Like, no, no, no, no, that's that's not.
Listen, man, everyone wants to blame Susie Wiles, and maybe you can, right?
Everyone wants to blame the administration ghouls that are around Trump, and maybe you can.
But here's where I can't go.
I can't go Joe Biden territory with Trump because if that's true, then we don't have a president.
Like, if that's true, if it's if Susie Wiles is truly calling off of the shots, if Susie Wiles and all of the swamp creatures, okay, are influencing Trump so badly, that's why we're in such bad shape and they just all need to go, which I agree, they do need to go, right?
Just meaning they need to be fired and replaced.
If that's truly what it is, then we don't have a president.
We've got a puppet again.
Now, do you really believe that?
You believe that President Trump is really not calling any shots?
I think in terms of foreign policy, when it comes to the Middle East or Israel, clearly Israel is getting its way.
But when it comes to everything else, especially domestically, how much in control is he really?
And I've found this to be kind of inconsistent and hypocritical from a lot of people in MAGA that are like, oh, you know, he's got to fire the advisors.
It's the advisors.
I'm like, so is he the president or not?
Well, he's just getting bad information.
So we're in Trump 1.0 again.
We can't cope forever, guys.
They can't cope forever.
And that's why I told Alex earlier: I think, you know, the solution is moving on.
And I'll say this again: the solution is moving on, strategizing, mobilizing.
And I do think we have to, as always, hold our leaders accountable.
It doesn't matter who it is.
But I would say lean a little more into that on Trump because he currently represents that is your megaphone right now.
Your megaphone.
Everything that is a grievance right now that we know needs to change beyond Trump, 2028 and beyond needs to start a long time ago.
Does that make sense?
You don't start in 2028.
You have to be preemptive about this.
So then when you move into that season, whoever's on the landscape, whoever's attempting to stand up and say, I'm America first, I am the future of the right wing.
I am the whatever, X, Y, is it Congressman, Senate, whatever it may be, president, whatever, whatever, right?
There will be a list of demands.
There will be, I don't want to use the word formula, but I guess you can say that.
There will be something that they know they need to not only abide by, but there's criteria they need to meet.
That's set by us, not by them.
That's set by we, the people, not by those in power.
That's set by us.
We set that.
And that's been my criticisms of all these MAGA cheerleaders and all these shills out here.
You're just like letting the federal government in the name of Trump set this and set that and give a pass on this and give a pass on that.
Just be quiet.
You don't want to get in.
You don't want to lose your invitation to Mar-a-Lago.
Oh, God forbid.
You don't want to lose being invited to the White House.
Oh, God forbid.
Listen, I got some advice for some of these people out here.
They want people obsessed, narcissistic psychopaths, obsessed with fame and obsessed with glory, obsessed with being at the forefront of everything.
The servants of Christ just want to serve and let your chips fall where they may and let the truth determine your friendships or let the truth determine your relationships.
Why do you do what you do?
I think that's the big question.
Why do you do what you do?
Why are you in what you're in?
Why are you involved in what you're involved in?
I mean, I could respect people more if they're just honest about it, to be completely honest.
Like, yeah, I just want to be famous.
Yeah, I want to be famous.
That's what I want to do.
I like it.
I like being known.
I like being seen.
I like going to the conferences and, you know, taking pictures with people.
People know my name.
Well, I mean, at least you're being honest.
Don't try to, you know, LARP and run around like, ooh, I'm just the independent warrior of the future.
What I'm describing to you is everything people are so sick of.
They're so sick of this in politics, left or right, whether in MAGA or the left-wing spaces.
And you're not allowed to be authentic in any of this kind of stuff.
That's why Alex gets so much crap all the time.
Because anyone that is unwilling to take a damn backdoor deal or anyone that's unwilling to compromise, you know, you may not agree with somebody all the time, but if they're unwilling to compromise on their values, then, you know, I respect you for that.
But the further and further we get away from that authenticity and the, and the, and the closer and closer we get to the same old, let's all put the suits on, let's all, you know, pat ourselves on the back and jerk each other off and rack lines.
Let's, let's just continue this because we all just want to be famous and we want to be known and we want to be seen.
Let's just continue doing this.
And it doesn't benefit anybody out there at home.
It doesn't benefit any of our fans, any of our listeners, any of our viewers, while they're all struggling, continuing to pay for never-ending wars, while they're out there struggling, continuing to pay their bills, while the economy is continuing to destroy their lives and they can't take care of their children.
Hey, but at least you got invited to Mar-a-Lago.
And by the way, I get these invitations.
I just don't care for it.
I didn't get into this for that.
Who am I?
All I know is this is how I feel.
And maybe many of you feel that way too.
I think the only true path to success is going to be through truth, authenticity, honesty, justice.