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The war for tomorrow begins tonight with your host, Chase Geiser.
Ladies and gentlemen, I am Chase Geiser, your host of Tomorrow's News Tonight.
chase geiser
In 30 minutes, we are going to be joined by the one and only, the great, the incredible Ian Carroll in studio for the final 90 minutes of the transmission today.
It is an honor and pleasure to be with you.
unidentified
Thank you so much for tuning in to Tomorrow's News Tonight.
chase geiser
This is the new weeknight show from 9 p.m. to 11 p.m. every weeknight because, frankly, there's just so much news that breaks after 6 p.m.
So we thought it our duty to give to you tomorrow's news tonight, every single night.
So you don't have to watch Sean Hannity and Z other propaganda just lie to you and cover up what's really going on, distort what's really happening and distract you as far as the news is concerned.
unidentified
And I don't even really know where to start because I've been gone for a couple of days.
I was in a funeral in D.C. So you might have noticed the last couple of nights we weren't live on air, but we're back in the saddle again.
But we've got OpenAI unveiling agent feature that can control your computer and perform tasks automatically.
chase geiser
We've got this breaking news from last night about the United States motion to unseal grand jury transcripts as they pertain to Jeffrey Epstein.
unidentified
And of course, we have this leaked bombshell tonight.
Secret meeting shatters Trump-Russia hoax with jaw-dropping details.
Now it's proven.
And we already knew, it's proven though now, that the Obama administration engaged in an orchestrated and intentional and engineered coup to unseat a sitting president duly elected by the American people.
chase geiser
But are you surprised?
I mean, here's the likes of the left in clip 30, I'm going to show you here in a second.
unidentified
This is Adam Schiff over and over again talking about how true and real and righteous the Russia hoax was.
chase geiser
This goes back to Brennan.
unidentified
It goes back to Comey.
chase geiser
It goes back to Schiff and the entire left, which orchestrated, frankly, goes straight back to Obama, this lie about President Trump, which he has not been able to live down for years.
unidentified
Now it's finally coming out.
chase geiser
Let's watch.
chuck todd
Direct evidence of collusion.
unidentified
I don't want to go into specifics, but I will say that there is evidence that is not circumstantial.
There is circumstantial evidence of collusion.
There is circumstantial evidence, certainly, of collusion or coordination.
There's also abundant circumstantial evidence.
All you have right now is a circumstantial case.
Actually, no, Chuck.
I can tell you that the case is more than that.
And circumstantial evidence can be very powerful and is hard evidence.
We're also looking at persistent allegations that the Russians have been laundering money through the Trump organization.
I don't know that that's true.
adam schiff
The president once said the Saudis are spending tens of millions of dollars on my Trump towers and buying apartments from me.
unidentified
Why wouldn't I love the Saudis?
Why wouldn't I love them?
Okay, so they murder journalists, but please, they buy apartments from me.
Members of that same campaign now in office said, hey, Russians, don't do anything about this.
We'll take care of you because we were doing this together.
Obviously, that could be part of a broad conspiracy.
Do you believe the president of the United States is a Russian asset?
He is acting like a person who is compromised.
The biggest news from Robert Mueller so far is that there are no new indictments for that underlying any cooperation and conspiracy with the Russians to interfere in our elections.
And so what happened on that call?
adam schiff
President communicates to his Ukrainian counterpart that the United States has done a lot for Ukraine.
No other country has done as much as we have.
unidentified
But you know what?
I don't see much reciprocity here.
But there's not much reciprocity here.
I hear what you want.
I have a favor I want from you.
What have you done for us?
We've done so much for you, but there's not much reciprocity.
I have a favor I want to ask you.
And I'm going to say this only seven times, so you better listen good.
Of course, the favor is to investigate his political rival.
You know what I'm asking, and so I'm only going to say this a few more times.
We've done an awful lot for Ukraine.
I want you to make up dirt on my political opponent, understand lots of it.
adam schiff
The favor is to investigate his political rival, to investigate the Bidens.
unidentified
And by the way, don't call me again.
I'll call you when you've done what I asked.
This is how a mafia boss talks.
This is, in sum and character, what the president was trying to communicate.
Trump could offer Alaska to the Russians in exchange for support in the next election.
What did he talk to the whistleblower about?
Because when the whistleblower even went to the inspector general, he never mentioned that he went with Adam Schiff.
I've never met the whistleblower.
adam schiff
I don't know who the whistleblower is.
unidentified
So there you have it, folks.
Pencil neck Schiff and the entire leftist regime engaged in this.
We're going to be back in a minute and 14 seconds with tomorrow's news tonight in full spectrum color.
And make sure you stay tuned because Ian Carroll is joining us in studio in just 30 minutes.
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It's tomorrow's news tonight with your host, Chase Geiser.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is Tomorrow's News Tonight.
I am your host, Chase Geiser.
We will be joined in studio in 22 minutes by the great Ian Carroll, one of my favorite guests, one of my best friends, favorite person to speak with.
But this news is just absolutely astounding.
Obviously, the last couple of weeks have been something of a hell for MAGA supporters, for America First Voters, for Trump supporters.
Of course, he referred to his supporters critical of his stance on Epstein as his former supporters.
And that's not really the case.
I still support Donald Trump.
I'm proud that I voted for him.
Just the fact that he pardoned all of the J6 prisoners was reason enough for me to be satisfied with my vote.
chase geiser
I mean, he's been astoundingly better than any of the alternative options that we had, whether it was Biden or Kamala Harris.
There's no doubt about it.
unidentified
But at the same time, I reserve the right to push back when I see what looks like a cover-up for the sake of saving one's reputation from the revelation of a lie that Trump thought the American people would believe.
I believe it to be the case that Trump was added to the Epstein files, that he was worked in, incorporated in, and I certainly believe it to be the case today, given all that we've learned about what Obama did, these secret meetings, these emails, these communications, as it pertains to the attempted coup against the Trump administration in the first term.
And it was obvious what they were trying to do with impeachment attempt after impeachment attempt.
They tried to frame him for an insurrection, and then they tried to deplatform him everywhere.
And when that didn't work, they tried to put him in prison for over 400 years.
And finally, when that didn't work, they tried to kill him, not once, but twice, and at least twice, if we're not counting the other attempts that the public was never made aware of.
So the fact of the matter is, the left totally lost in 2024.
chase geiser
The globalists totally lost.
unidentified
They have no political representation in any of our institutions anymore because the American people woke up to what they're doing and voted all of them out.
It was a glorious victory.
chase geiser
So the only conflict left in the political spectrum was between different sects of the right.
unidentified
Your MAGA America first right and then your neoconservative Zionist right.
And the left, in a Hail Mary attempt to destroy the right, despite having no political power or representation whatsoever, attempted to catalyze that schism, create this artificial civil war, just as was prescribed in prescriptive programming with the Civil War movie that came out just last year.
Where they wanted to make it seem like a massive civil war would take place because a right-wing leader or a populist leader was just too dictatorial, too despotic, too much of an oligarch or a monarch rather, or despot.
And this is the type of not predictive, but prescriptive programming where they don't just prepare you mentally for what's going to happen, but they try to prescribe the future by making it feel as if it's inevitable that this is the outcome for the United States of America, the people of America, and frankly, the people of the world, the species altogether.
That's the attempt that's being made here.
But now we have the director of national intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, coming out and revealing the truth about what has taken place.
And even rep Anna Paulina Luna, we'll get into some of this and then more.
She says, while others are busy stabbing President Trump in the back, I don't think anyone was really stabbing him in the back.
But I understand her concern.
We were working overtime behind the scenes in the Oval Office.
This photo was taken earlier today.
No, it's not a coincidence.
This is 4D chess, not checkers.
Welcome to the big leagues.
Enjoy phase three, she says.
And then she goes on to say, AG Pam Bondi is unsealing grand jury testimony.
Of course, I believe this has to be approved by a court.
So she's going to attempt to.
We'll see if it really happens.
And there's much more to come.
chase geiser
This is the most transparent administration in U.S. history.
unidentified
And we had this apparent schism between Elon Musk and Donald Trump, but this broke earlier today, this evening, actually.
Secretary Marco Rubio has revoked the visa of Brazilian Supreme Court Justice Alexandre de Moraes over his political witch hunt against former President Bolsonaro.
But keep in mind that this is the same Supreme Court justice of Brazil who did everything he could to raid and destroy X in the country because freedom of speech was simply not tolerable to his oligarch regime.
And so it's interesting that Marco Rubio would come out, despite all these differences that Elon Musk and President Trump seem to have, and revoke the visa of the Supreme Court justice responsible for all of the antagonism against X. Don't you find that interesting?
It makes one wonder if the schism between Elon Musk and Donald Trump is really so drastic given this move.
But on Friday, Director of National Intelligence, DNI Tulsi Gabbard, revealed overwhelming evidence that demonstrates how after President Trump won the 2016 election against Hillary Clinton, President Obama and his National Security Cabinet members manufactured and politicized intelligence to lay the groundwork for what was essentially a years-long coup against President Trump.
And there's bullet points here.
I'm just going to read them.
I don't like to read to the audience because you can read for yourselves, but this is so important.
In the months leading up to the November 2016 election, the intelligence community consistently assessed that Russia is probably not trying to influence the election by using cyber means.
On December 7th, 2016, after the election, talking points were prepared for DNI James Clapper stating foreign adversaries did not use cyber attacks on election infrastructure to alter the U.S. presidential election outcome.
On the 9th of December, President Obama's White House gathered top National Security Council principals for a meeting that included James Clapper, John Brennan, Susan Rice, John Kerry, Loretta Lynch, Andrew McCabe, and others to discuss Russia.
chase geiser
After the meeting, Clapper's executive assistant sent an email to IC leaders tasking them with creating a new IC assessment per the president's request that details the tools of Moscow used and actions it took.
Obama officials leaked false statements to the media outlets, and a new intelligence community assessment was released.
unidentified
So they manufactured the entire thing to undermine Trump's presidency, essentially justify what would be impeachment attempt after impeachment attempt.
And they know that they manufactured it.
It's not some accident or coincidence that this took place.
It's absolutely disgusting.
I'm going to show you Clip 11 here in just a moment.
This is Jack Posobic assessing what we just learned.
He says he's never seen anything like this intel program used to target President Trump and his supporters.
Let's watch.
Obama administration's conspiracy to subvert President Trump's 2016 victory and presidency, Washington, D.C. Today's date, Friday.
This is from the Director of National Intelligence.
Tulsi Gabbert revealed overwhelming evidence that demonstrates how, after President Trump won the 2016 election against Hillary Curtin, President Obama and his National Security Cabinet members manufactured and politicized intelligence to lay the groundwork for what was essentially a years-long coup against President Trump.
This is from the Director of National Intelligence, that language.
And also, she puts in a tweet atop: their goal was to usurp President Trump and subvert the will of the American people.
No matter how powerful, every person involved in this conspiracy must be investigated and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
steve bannon
The integrity of our Democratic Republic depends on it.
We are turning over all documents to the Department of Justice for criminal referral.
unidentified
Jack Pasovic, this is what, to Caroline Wren's point, Durham did not have this information correct.
And Tulsi Gabbard, have you ever heard language like this from a director of national intelligence or any senior intelligence official, sir?
Steve, I've never heard language like this because I've never seen anything like this before in all these years using intelligence channels and intelligence programs to actually actively go after a U.S. politician who's going to be the next president of the United States.
jack posobiec
So the person that is now your successor, you're directing it.
And it says over and over in these documents, and you can see it where because what, and it's so smart what DNI Gabbard has done here because she's released all of it.
unidentified
So she says it, she's got the press release, she has the executive summary, but she provides you all the backing documents as much as possible.
And it says very clearly: per the direction of the President of the United States.
So per the direction of Barack Obama following this meeting, you are now to create this new assessment.
And Steve, by the way, we've got emails in here.
I'm just going through it, but you can see responses from the analysts.
This is the technology cyber intel unit, the cyber intelligence officials at the FBI coming up and responding to Clapper's team and saying, wait a minute, you know, listen to this.
jack posobiec
We would prefer the first sentence regarding Russia's intent to be softened.
unidentified
The way it currently reads, it would indicate we have definite information that Russia does intend to disrupt our elections, and we are uncomfortable making that assessment.
That's from the FBI in 2016, but that's below the level.
That's the actual intelligence analysts, way below the Comey level, way below Clapper and Brennan over at DNI, previous DNI and previous CIA, where the people who are actually doing the work says, wait, we don't have the evidence.
We don't have the evidence to back this up.
And you are directing us to make this requirement.
We don't feel comfortable doing it.
And they did it anyway.
And we know later that Brennan went and hand-selected the people that would put together this completely fake assessment.
And he led the entire, he may, he could have started World War III with this.
Unbelievable, the level of corruption here.
Absolutely disgusting on all fronts.
Headline reads, treasonous conspiracy.
Tulsi Gabbard calls for prosecution of Barack Obama, Jim Comey, John Brennan, and others, sends newly declassified Trump-Russia hoax docs to Justice Department.
It was recently reported that former FBI Director James Comey, CIA Director John Brennan, and DNI James Clapper worked together to purposely corrupt the Trump-Russia investigation in 2016 before Trump entered office.
On Friday, it was revealed that Barack Obama knew it was a hoax and engaged in the manufacturing of this anyway.
We already knew this, but now they're finally admitting it.
chase geiser
You know how I've been talking about this.
The problem is we can all know that something is terribly corrupt.
unidentified
Who was responsible for which crimes when, but there's never any accountability until the establishment or the institutions that exist admit it themselves.
chase geiser
And now we have the director of national intelligence coming out with the evidence and the claim and the allegations.
unidentified
And it's time for Bondi to make up for some lost time here and hold these people accountable for the crimes that they've committed against the American people, but not just the American people, against humanity as well.
And it leaves one wondering, all right, if they manufactured in a very clear, obvious way the Russia collusion hoax of 2016, insisted on it with the entire Democratic National Committee coming together, the entire party coming together, insisting on it for years and years and years, just lying, knowing that they're lying, insisting on this, then what could they have possibly done with the Epstein files to try to wrap Trump into it?
I think this lines up perfectly with what Trump has been claiming over the last two weeks about the Epstein files.
He's been claiming, look, there's no list.
There's nothing here.
He's been implying that he's named on the list, though not stating it, saying that the Democrats had these files for an extended period of time.
They obviously put in a bunch of information that isn't credible whatsoever.
So I think what we've seen with these Epstein files is just a 2.0 of the Russia collusion hoax, where the Democrats, when they're in power, they take control of all these classified documents.
They plant a whole bunch of stuff, hoping to release it later so that it's incriminating.
They're trying to frame Trump again.
This is what's going on.
chase geiser
But here's Jesse Waters in clip 14 reporting on Fox the latest.
unidentified
Fox News Alert, we just got a peek inside Obama's black book, and it turns out Barack knew the Russia hoax was a hoax all along, but pushed it anyway to sabotage the Trump presidency.
DNI Tulsi Gabbard declassifying pages and pages of documents showing Obama's intel guys briefed him just weeks after the 16 election that the Russians didn't actually sway the election.
Quote, we assessed that Russian and criminal actors did not impact the recent U.S. election results.
jesse watters
Criminal activity also failed to reach the scale and sophistication necessary to change election outcomes.
unidentified
But Obama just couldn't accept that.
So he and his staff instructed intel agencies to cook up new reports to support Russia collusion.
Quote, after the meetings, Clapper's executive assistant emailed intelligence community leaders, tasking them to create a new intelligence community assessment per the president's request that detailed the tools Moscow used and actions it took to influence the 16 election.
Tulsi Gabbard described what she found as a conspiracy to subvert the will of the American people.
And she says the people involved should be prosecuted and has made a criminal referral to the Department of Justice.
Well, there you have it, folks.
Mainstream news now, everybody knows.
Now everybody knows nobody can die.
chase geiser
And I know that the left is going to come out and say, oh, well, this is just Tulsi Gabbard making things up.
You remember she's a former Democrat, right?
unidentified
You remember she was totally alienated by the Democratic Party because she absolutely murdered politically Kamala Harris in that debate.
And then she was totally censored from Google.
The Democrats are absolutely collapsing all around us.
They have no support whatsoever.
If you don't believe me, just look what the leader of NPR has done.
This is clip 16 of her begging for money because their funding has been stripped.
Let's watch.
Hi, I'm Catherine Marr, CEO of NPR.
katherine maher
Congress just voted to eliminate all federal funding for public media.
unidentified
This decision hurts communities across America.
It means fewer local reporters covering town councils and state championships.
It means fewer stories about local farms, fisheries, businesses, about what's happening in the state house, about musicians and civic leaders who make our communities tick.
It means fewer voices reflecting the richness of who we are as a nation.
Fewer stories about what connects us and brings us closer together.
And for millions, especially in rural areas, it means losing access to trusted local news, emergency alerts, and everyday connection.
But you can help us keep this vital, vibrant service on air across our nation for your neighbors, for you, and for millions of Americans.
Please.
I work for NPR and I'm sitting on an avocado couch.
I used to be one of those people that listened to NPR 10 years ago.
Gosh, more like 15 years ago now.
And I remember there was this show in Nashville, Tennessee called All Things Considered.
And the host was a woman named Anita Bug.
And it's so fitting now because of Klaus Schwab and the WEF and everything that we've seen, because she would come on the air and she'd say, Hello, this is all things considered, and I'm going to eat a bug, is what it sounded like.
And they want us to eat the bugs.
But it's not just NPR that's collapsing.
It's not just because the federal government has dropped all of its funding.
chase geiser
Because remember, when we threatened to take away its funding before, they said, oh, only 4% of all of our funding is from the federal government.
unidentified
Now we pulled the funding and she's sitting on an avocado couch begging for donations from people who care about real journalism.
She's the same woman who gave a TED Talk talking about how freedom of speech and the truth wasn't important or our aim.
Guys, can you find that clip?
You know what I'm talking about, right?
She's giving that TED Talk saying that the truth isn't important and freedom of speech doesn't matter.
chase geiser
That's not the aim.
unidentified
That's not the purpose of NPR.
In fact, I don't even understand why NPR isn't considered United States government-affiliated media.
chase geiser
It absolutely is.
unidentified
But here's clip eight.
chase geiser
This is Stephen Colbert.
unidentified
Apparently, his show was canceled just two days after this.
Let's watch.
stephen colbert
My parent corporation, Paramount, paid Donald Trump a $16 million settlement over his 60 Minutes lawsuit.
As someone who has always been a proud employee of this network, I am offended.
unidentified
And I don't know if anything will ever repair my trust in this company.
But just taking a stab at it, I'd say $16 million would help.
This settlement.
This settlement is for a nuisance lawsuit Trump filed claiming that 60 Minutes deceptively edited their interview with then-candidate Kamala Harris last fall.
stephen colbert
Paramount knows they could have easily fought it because, in their own words, the lawsuit was completely without merit.
unidentified
And keep in mind, Paramount produced Transformers Rise of the Beast.
They know completely without merits.
Now, unlike, unlike, Unlike the payoffs from ABC and Twitter, Paramount Settlement did not include an apology.
Instead, that's good.
Instead, the corporation released a statement where they said, you may take our money, but you will never take our dignity.
You may, however, purchase our dignity for the low, low price of $16 million.
We need the cash.
Now, I believe...
What can I say?
What can I say, Mr. Stephen loves to dance?
Now, I believe that this kind of complicated financial settlement with a sitting government official has a technical name in legal circles.
stephen colbert
It's Big Fat Bribe.
unidentified
Because this all comes as Paramount's owners are trying to get the Trump administration to approve the sale of our network to a new owner, Skydance.
Not the music I was expecting?
Okay.
That was me dancing in the sky.
And some of the TV typers out there are blogging that once Skydance gets CBS, the new owner's desire to please Trump could put pressure on late night host and frequent Trump critic Stephen Colbert.
Okay, okay.
But how are they going to put pressure on Stephen Colbert if they can't find him?
Well, they're going to cancel your show.
And look, his show was canceled.
chase geiser
This is just an excuse.
It was canceled because nobody watches it anymore.
He hasn't been funny since the Cobat report, and it was a stretch to consider him funny even back then.
unidentified
That's what's really going on here.
The left is totally collapsing right before our eyes.
They have no support in Congress, either in the House or in the Senate.
They have no support in the White House, and they've been eradicated from all of our major institutions.
And despite the fact that I have major concerns about some of the things that Trump has done or said, I was worried that he was going to start World War III by bombing Iran.
I turned out to be wrong about that, 100%.
I was worried that this Epstein stuff was going to be a nightmare for us.
And it turns out that maybe it's going to play out for us.
And maybe this revelation from DNI Tulsi Gabbard is setting the stage for an understanding as to why maybe he was reluctant to release non-credible files to the public, which the left would just use incessantly in campaign ads for midterms and everything to undermine the integrity or credibility of the Trump administration.
But here is Catherine Marr.
We just saw her on an avocado couch asking for money.
chase geiser
This is her telling you exactly what NPR and the leftist regime machine stands for.
It's watch.
unidentified
But one of the most significant differences, critical for moving from polarization to productivity, is that the Wikipedians who write these articles aren't actually focused on finding the truth.
They're working for something that's a little bit more attainable, which is the best of what we can know right now.
And after seven years there, I actually believe that they're onto something that for our most tricky disagreements, seeking the truth and seeking to convince others of the truth isn't necessarily the best place to start.
katherine maher
In fact, I think our reverence for the truth might become, might have become a bit of a distraction that is preventing our process and getting important things done.
unidentified
Now, none of that's to say that the truth isn't important.
The truth obviously exists.
katherine maher
It's at the core, or the search for the truth, is at the core of some of our greatest human achievements.
unidentified
It can animate and inspire us to do, learn, and create great things.
But I think in our messy human hearts, truth is something of a fickle mistress.
chase geiser
Put a bullet straight in my head.
katherine maher
The beauty of the truth is actually often in the struggle.
unidentified
It's the reason that we have so many sublime chronicles of the human experience because there are so many different truths to be explored.
And so in this spirit, I know that the truth exists for each of you in this room.
All right, that's enough of that.
We're coming up on a break.
chase geiser
On the other side of this break, Ian Carroll is going to be joining me live in studio.
unidentified
It's always an honor and pleasure to be with him.
I can't wait to see what happens.
chase geiser
It's unpredictable.
unidentified
What's going to happen with Incarol in studio, though?
This is tomorrow's news tonight.
I think we see the writing on the wall for what's next.
The left is going to continue to lie and scheme and frankly conspire against the American people.
And despite what the leader of NPR says about the truth not being the primary aim and not being important, it's actually the fundamental aim.
chase geiser
Even Jesus Christ himself said, I am the way, the truth, and the light.
unidentified
Asking ye shall receive, seeking, ye shall find, knocking, it shall be opened unto you.
chase geiser
It's all about revelation, about awakening.
unidentified
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They don't even know what boron is.
And I remember one thing that always stuck in my head, and that's, you know, it's just true.
Well, what does boron kind of rhyme with, folks?
Just leave it at that.
You know what I mean?
We've got bits and pieces of a system here that comes together and provides you just the antioxidant support you need, the testosterone support you need, the mitochondrial health support you need.
rex jones
It's all there.
unidentified
It's all together.
It's in both of these products.
rex jones
You could take both of these at the same time and experience a heck of a lot of benefits.
unidentified
Now, I would say younger, older.
You're an older person, you need more overall body support, you need the overall antioxidant support.
I would go with the methyl drive.
But if you're a younger person or someone looking for a performance boost, I would go with the power plant.
I can enhance what I'm doing here, maybe like tenfold with the right supplement routine.
rex jones
Absolutely.
unidentified
I totally agree with that statement.
Look, the reason why this is called Power Plant is because it has cordyceps in it.
Now, of course, the mitochondria is a powerhouse of the cell and all that, but cordyceps is like an elite top-tier S-tier ingredient, which increases the amount of ATP you make, which indirectly helps you make more mitochondria.
But beyond that, increases your oxygen-carrying capacity.
So you want to talk about workouts.
You want to talk about power.
You talk about strength.
Talk about power plant.
And that's what you need, especially when you're doing a heavy lift and you need to have good breathing or you're doing long-form cardio and you need to have strong breathing.
That's where this is going to come into play.
And when you started talking about the new product that we just came out with with the PQQ and the CoQ10, folks, I'm telling you, it's like if I had to do a list of like, okay, if someone said you can pick five things that you're going to get in a supplement, like what are the most important things?
Guarantee you, you asked me a hundred times.
PQQ and CoQ10 are on that list for me a hundred times.
Vitamin B12, as methylcobalamin, the good kind, magnesium, coenzyme Q10, CoQ10, PQQ, black pepper for absorption.
You can't ask for a better catch-all, really.
rex jones
And the synergy that both of these products have with the methylene blue is unparalleled.
unidentified
You will not find a better product on the market that's targeted in that specific way because we made these for you, the customer, and for ourselves because we believe in the product.
We take the product.
owen shroyer
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unidentified
Try them for yourself.
I know they're going to become a staple.
I see Rex working out here every once in a while.
We've worked out in the gym every once in a while.
And, you know, he's really excited about this stuff.
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You're listening to Chase Geyser on Tomorrow's News Tonight.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is Tomorrow's News Tonight.
chase geiser
I am joined by the one and only Ian Carroll.
unidentified
It is an honor and a pleasure to be with you.
How are you?
It's good to see you again, man.
I'm good.
ian carroll
I'm glad to be back in Austin.
unidentified
I had a very long drive to get here.
Yeah.
And then I slept for where did you drive from?
Idaho.
In one go.
Straight through.
It was a 25-hour drive.
Did you hit a Bucky's on the way?
ian carroll
No, I hate Buckies.
unidentified
What?
I've never been home.
Get out of my studio.
So I've never been to a Bucky's?
How do you hate it then?
Prejudice.
You're like the grocery goo.
Prejudice.
I just, their marketing is clearly brainwashing.
ian carroll
It is clearly the most out-of-date, silly, out-of-touch feeling marketing ever.
unidentified
Like, you're going to buy Beavers, you're going to love this.
ian carroll
You're going to buy 100 billboards for 500 miles just to tell me about a Bucky's 500 miles away.
unidentified
Those cheap meme slogans that your like grandkid told you to say.
What's wrong with that?
ian carroll
It's just, it makes.
unidentified
The bathrooms are actually the cleanest.
Yeah, but there's a loves travel stop every 17 miles and their bathrooms are just a travel stop.
chase geiser
Do you want to get raped or do you want to get some brisket?
unidentified
Dude, have you seen how tall I am?
I can get brisket just fine.
No one's going to touch me.
All right.
ian carroll
Or anyone with me.
unidentified
And I don't know.
I'm just, I'm prejudiced.
I'm traveling with you then because I got a problem.
Yeah, we're chilling.
Plus, I got another gun on the way.
So now we're still.
What are you getting?
ian carroll
I just got another Glock.
unidentified
I just got a smaller one that's easier to conceal.
There you go, man.
So tell me what you've been doing the last three months.
You mentioned that you've been getting into the AI robotics stuff.
I want to know where your head's at.
Yeah.
Well, for the last three months, I've just been traveling around doing lots of stuff.
I covered the Candace show for a month over in Nashville, a little over a month, and then traveled to California, did a little home tour and visited family in Washington, family in Idaho, and then back.
And I've just been really focused on YouTube and not being in all the Twitter wars and Twitter madness.
We were just making jokes behind backstage about how I did not die.
I just stopped talking shit on Twitter so much for Twitter thought I had died.
ian carroll
But realistically, it's just really nice to spend more time working on projects and learning things and like doing reporting than arguing with Zionists about lies.
unidentified
Yeah.
You know.
Well, and the thing is, I was thinking about this earlier today because Jay Dyer challenged me to a debate about Bitcoin because I made the claim on air that I thought Bitcoin was created by the Central Intelligence Agency.
And I cited, you know, claims of it being a loose translation from Japanese Satoshi Nakamoto of Central Intelligence.
And he's like, look, it's not CI created.
chase geiser
Do you want to debate me?
And I was like, dude, if I debate you on it, I'm totally losing the debate.
unidentified
My opinion is from the heart, right?
Like it's a gut feeling.
I know that I would lose that debate.
And my point is, like, we spend all this time engaged in debates that are designed to win over the minds, but you have to win over the heart and then the heart wins the mind over.
And it's the same thing for marketing.
People make buying decisions emotionally and they justify later because of reason.
Exactly.
And emotionally, I hate Buckies.
Yeah.
I understand.
That's fine.
There's nothing wrong with that.
chase geiser
I have to get you to love.
unidentified
I can't convince you that it's amazing by sighting specs like clean bathrooms or any other details.
I have to get you to buy in because of an experience or something else.
But it's the same thing with the Zionists, right?
ian carroll
Exactly.
chase geiser
Like, you're not going to convince, you're not going to, if you just crush Mark Levin in a debate about Zionism, he's not going to change his mind.
unidentified
Like, oh, I lost that debate.
Therefore, my position has totally changed.
Like, you have to win his heart over.
And you're not going to do that because he's, you know, culturally, emotionally, whatever.
Bought it.
Exactly.
ian carroll
You've honestly just elucidated the problem perfectly.
unidentified
Right.
And that's why, that's a big part of why I pulled back from Twitter because you can ratio the Zionists all day long.
You can show them facts.
You can share information.
And it's not just Zionists.
ian carroll
There's all sorts of madness on Twitter, but yeah, you can't fix stupid.
unidentified
Yeah.
Which is I used to be a Zionist.
chase geiser
I used to be somebody that was like, hey, man, the only democracy in the region.
ian carroll
I used to be a leftist.
unidentified
Yeah.
How'd that go for you?
chase geiser
I mean, it's a long and lonely road.
unidentified
It was during the time when leftists were in power.
So I didn't really notice anything.
ian carroll
I just was out in the mountains climbing.
unidentified
So what do you think about news that OpenAI unveils its agent feature that can control your computer and perform tasks automatically?
This is ChatGPT folks, by the way.
chase geiser
Now it can control your computer and do everything automatically.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian carroll
So this is a lot of what I was just researching for that.
unidentified
I just did a whole presentation on robots, technology, AI, drones, et cetera, up in Idaho.
And I'm making a video about it too that's coming out soon.
ian carroll
And I hate to say it.
unidentified
It's a little uncomfortable to say, but there's two sides to the coin.
ian carroll
There's two sides to, so like, if I'm trying to create video and I want an AI and I want AI to actually help me edit a video, make a video, film a video, if I want to like really get working with AI, I need the AI to be able to do stuff.
That's like the main limitation on AI right now is you can't say, hey, AI, hey, Siri, like open Spotify, play that one song, skip the song.
unidentified
Hey, Siri, like real quick, open up CapCut and edit this thing down for me.
Hey, that's not really AI, though.
chase geiser
That's like what marketing has told us AI is.
unidentified
Well, that's the most basic level.
But if I want the AI up there in the video editing software with me, like, hey, I want that shot to be a little more to the left.
ian carroll
If you could zoom in and now next shot, we want to make a desert.
Like if you really want to get working with AI in a creative way, it needs to be able to control things on your phone.
But the problem is that that's a point of no return.
unidentified
Once the AI agents can access, control, turn on, turn off, it's like they can send your tech message.
ian carroll
It's like Jeffrey Epstein getting the power of attorney for Leslie Wexner, for example.
unidentified
Once Jeffrey Epstein has the power of attorney for Leslie Wexner, he can do anything he wants with Leslie Wexner's money, business, and he did operation.
Yeah.
And Leslie would have never known.
How would he have known that Jeffrey Epstein was running a global trafficking ring with his money?
So I'm a little uncomfortable.
Leslie knew.
Oh, of course Leslie knew.
Are you kidding me?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
ian carroll
So there's this whole moment in the Tucker Carlson Daryl Cooper episode that just came out that I hope you saw.
unidentified
It's amazing.
Everyone should watch it.
ian carroll
But Tucker and Daryl are, let's say, they're cautious and thoughtful, and they don't like to speculate beyond too much beyond what they know.
unidentified
It's clip 28, by the way, guys.
Get that ready.
Yeah, and there was this hilarious moment in there where they were talking about Leslie Wexner, the power of attorney for Jeffrey Epstein, and they sort of came to this impasse of like, who knows?
why it would work that way.
Like, who knows why he would have hired Jeffrey Epstein with this non-resume to manage all of his money.
And they had just putting all of these pieces together that clearly showed that this was an intelligence operation and that it was not Leslie Wexner hiring Jeffrey Epstein to do this.
It was a convergence of intelligence assets saying, Leslie, you're going to be the bankroll.
ian carroll
Jeffrey Epstein is going to be your guy.
unidentified
You're going to get to know him.
He's going to manage your stuff.
This is how it's going to work.
ian carroll
And that's why he gave Jeffrey Epstein the power of attorney over his entire company without knowing him very well.
unidentified
Not because he wanted him to manage, you know, Victoria's secret, right?
And so it's just kind of funny how like so many of the pieces are on the table.
So many of the parts of that operation are known to us.
And yet there's still some confusion.
Let's show clips 28 and 33 back to back.
Go ahead, Derek.
Before Jeffrey Epstein was sentenced, for whatever reason, you have this billionaire who's just the definition of a flight risk.
They don't take his passport away.
And before he's sentenced, he goes, he flees.
darryl cooper
He flees the country, goes to Israel and stays there for several months.
unidentified
Moved all his money offshore by this point.
And while he's in Israel, he's telling people there that he's thinking about staying because you can actually do that.
They don't extradite Jewish criminals, at least, who flee to Israel.
There's an organization called Jewish Community Watch, which is a Jewish organization that tracks pedophiles who have fled the United States to go to Israel where there's no extradition of Jewish criminals there.
darryl cooper
And between just the years, I think it was 2010 when they started, when they opened up, and 2016, 2017, when this story was written, so period of six years, there were already 60 pedophiles from the United States that had fled to Israel and were living freely there.
Some of them had reoffended there and got thrown in Israeli jails.
unidentified
So this is a thing, you know, and Jeffrey Epstein was over there.
Why doesn't the U.S. government demand the government of Israel send them back?
I mean, you've been self-employed for a while, but when you weren't, was it your habit to go to your boss and make demands of them on a regular basis?
I don't know.
I mean, since when do we ever make demands on Israel?
It's been a long time.
I don't know, but I, you know, that's obviously distressing.
If there's one message I would like, if there's anybody at the White House or anywhere close to those people watching right now that they need to understand is the reason this is important to the base is not because they think there's this Jewish pedophile worked for the Israeli Mossad and they want him held.
darryl cooper
It has nothing to do with that.
It's a proxy for can we hold these people accountable?
unidentified
Like Donald Trump's presidency in general, you know, people might have favored the trade policy.
Certainly they were, you know, the immigration thing was important, all that kind of stuff.
But really what it was is, man, these people have gotten so out of control and so out of touch with the rest of us and so unconcerned with what's going on with the rest of us.
We just got to bring in a wrecking ball from the outside who's going to go in there and shake things up and tear this thing down.
People are not listening to us because we're relevant.
We don't have any say in our government.
There is no democratic control in the United States.
The population's views don't really matter.
That's the feeling that people have.
And this whole story that you've told for two hours and 37 minutes confirms that they are right to be concerned because what you're describing is an organization.
I'm somebody who admires Daryl Cooper, and I saw the way that he was unfairly treated after his last appearance.
chase geiser
He by no means was apologizing for Hitler in his last appearance on the Tucker Carlson show, despite the fact that he tongue-in-cheek expressed criticism of Winston Churchill, who was somebody worthy of criticism.
unidentified
I mean, he was drunk and reckless, and that war certainly escalated.
chase geiser
Now, Hitler was unpredictable and obviously very ambitious.
Yeah.
unidentified
You know, he could have cracked open a beer and put his feet up and said, good job, boys, but instead he decided Barbarossa.
And I'm not familiar with all the nuance of World War II.
chase geiser
I've studied World War II, but not nearly to the extent that Daryl Cooper has.
unidentified
Point is, Darrell Cooper's an honest person.
chase geiser
He's not anti-Semitic for the sake of anti-Semitism.
unidentified
He's not anti-Zionism for the sake of anti-Zionism.
chase geiser
He's going to give you a really informed opinion on what's going on because I genuinely believe that his aim is the truth, which is so interesting because, and I don't mean to ramble about this, the academics always talk about how important it is to rely on the experts.
unidentified
It's this appeal to authority fallacy that they commit.
chase geiser
Have you ever been there?
unidentified
Yeah.
But the problem is the academics are engaged in a deeply, deeply political environment.
Eric Weinstein has complained about this for years, how physics has become so political that no one can offer any alternative thoughts or theories to string theory because it's so popular.
chase geiser
So all the physicists feel like they have to go down the string theory rabbit hole, despite the fact that there are plenty of alternative paths to pursue in terms of physics, right?
It's deeply political.
unidentified
And look, this is stupid, but it's true.
chase geiser
I was the student body president of my college for one year.
unidentified
I was elected by the entire student body to run the student government.
And I dealt with faculty of my university.
And I will say it's 100% political, just like Congress is.
It's much less consequential because it's just political in its own environment of whatever university you're talking about.
But if you're talking about academia, whether it's history or archaeology or physics, these experts are way more likely to instigate a false preference bias or make a false claim than a random podcaster who's done their own research.
In fact, I trust Daryl Cooper more than I trust any World War II historian because do you think that any academic in any of our institutions wants to come out and blame anyone else other than Hitler in the current political climate?
Absolutely.
ian carroll
I mean, it's not just World War II.
unidentified
It's not just one field.
Like you say, it seeps into all academic fields, right?
And what you say about Weinstein is really interesting because Eric Weinstein has actually started to elaborate on his own theory that Jeffrey, and it's not really like his own theory.
It's an it's an element of the Epstein plot that Whitney talks about in her book, that Daryl has talked about, that Ryan Dawson has talked about, because it's there.
It's there in the evidence that Jeffrey Epstein, part of his operation was a scientific control operation.
It wasn't just a sex trafficking black.
Exactly.
It was cultivating influence within the scientific and the academic communities through donations to MIT and Harvard and other Ivy Leagues.
Exactly, right?
And this is just the nature of educational institutions is they offer you an unprecedented amount of power over the youth and over the future of academic thought, the future of culture, the future of politics and world leaders.
ian carroll
And so every intelligence agency has an interest in having their hands in there as well as in scientific discovery and publishing.
unidentified
And so Jeffrey Epstein's operation, at first, when we first learned about it, it was mostly framed as a blackmail operation around sex and kids.
And it was that, but it was also, it was a multifaceted tool.
And Epstein was a multifaceted operator.
ian carroll
And Weinstein's, when Weinstein speaks on that aspect of it, it's really interesting.
unidentified
I've not listened to enough of it yet because Weinstein is a very intelligent and wordy guy, but this podcast that he did recently that I have not yet seen.
Was he Danny Johnson one?
No, no, but Danny Jones is this one is this one is special.
This is like a seven-minute long clip.
Yeah.
I've actually studied Eric Weinstein's Epstein stuff pretty thoroughly.
chase geiser
I think, I could be mistaken.
unidentified
I think I've heard everything that he's ever had to say about Epstein, and it's totally fascinating.
And if you take it in the context of some of the claims that we've seen by the CIA whistleblower, is his last name, Caracow?
He's been on our network.
Yeah, Jack.
He's making the rounds right now.
You guys would recognize him many times.
He looks a little bit like a bunny rabbit, nice guy.
ian carroll
Anyway, he's the man.
chase geiser
This guy has come out and said, look, when I was at CIA from 1990, I think he started in 90, maybe 93, from the early 90s for years, he said that the Israelis are constantly trying to steal our military intelligence, specifically as it pertains to technology.
It's been a recurring problem that when you have Israelis or Mossad in the CIA building or in the Pentagon, they always try to bug it, right?
Which is, I understand.
unidentified
I'm sure it's true of other nations as well.
And I've heard other stories on the side I could tell you about what it's like to work with the IDF for American soldiers, things like just leaving the bathrooms, disgusting on purpose, just stuff like that.
That I've heard from Navy SEALs and things of that nature.
But it's interesting because we give about 95% of all of our military technology to Israel, including like the F-35.
So for example, we gave them the F-35 after it came out, but we gave them the F-35I, which was a slightly less advanced version of the F-35, because in the event that an Israeli pilot was shot down over Russia or China or whatever, we don't want that technology to be taken.
So they did everything that they could to bug us and steal that information.
I believe they actually ended up getting it.
chase geiser
I think everybody has all the details on the F-35.
unidentified
I could probably Google it and just build you one in a 3D printer now at this point because it's so it's so out there.
Point I'm trying to make is Epstein, yes, did engage in a blackmail operation against our political class, but was likely just whining and dining scientists to try to get any insight into any of the classified material they were working on as it pertains to gravitational propulsion technology, ballistics, what have you.
chase geiser
So this is not something that he wasn't just engaged in one thing.
unidentified
And I guarantee it's going to come out whether 50 years from now or 50 days from now that there are dozens of Epsteins operational right now, probably as many as 200.
I would, I mean, yeah, I mean, two, I would, I would question if there's 200 total of them magnitude.
Oh, 100%.
Easily.
Dozens of way more than 200.
Yeah, absolutely.
I think that Jeffrey Epstein was certainly running a very unique and powerful branch of this operation.
But what Daryl and Tucker kind of circled around and sort of put a pin in at the end of their interview was that they both say that they're of the belief that it's not even exactly Israeli primarily, that it's almost just like a freelance operation that's contracting with Israel and with the CIA, with kind of black budget arms of these intelligence agencies, which I don't personally agree with.
ian carroll
I think the reason why you see Leslie Wexner, Jeffrey Epstein, Ehud Barak being the sort of nexus of formation for that is because it was Israel that founded this branch of this operation.
unidentified
But I do think that this, it's such an illegal operation that's operating so much in the dark, like dark markets that I almost suspect that it's run as much by organized criminal kind of operations as by the actual government of Israel, if you can call it that.
Do you know what I mean?
I know what you mean.
Like if you have a CIA black budget program that goes far enough off books, like is that even technically really a CIA project anymore?
Or is that George Bush working with a whole bunch of drug smugglers to smuggle heroin?
Yeah, I got it.
That's kind of in line with what I think.
And we may or may not disagree about this.
I'm not sure that we've really had an in-depth conversation about this.
One of the problems that I have with the anti-Israel crowd, and that is such a terrible expression.
So that for lack of a better expression, is there's a tendency to blame Israel for everything.
And I do think that Israel is involved in almost every one of our problems.
However, I believe that Israel and Mossad operate on behalf of the CIA as the street thugs.
Yeah, we have talked about this a little bit.
And many and many others, and I assume you, but I don't know, believe that Israel is actually controlling our government on behalf of its own interests, where I think the CIA is controlling Mossad on behalf of ensuring that they can protect the dollar in the region so they can justify any other incursion.
What are your thoughts on my theory, my conspiracy theory that we're actually paying and controlling Mossad rather than the other way around?
I think it's probably a mixture of both, as in Americans obviously have the interest in controlling Israel for all the reasons that you state.
Are they successful at that?
Maybe somewhat.
Israelis, however, have all the interest in the world in controlling Americans and America.
And so I would argue that the interests align in both directions with your theory, but the question is who is more successful at it.
And based upon my read of CIA history and Israeli history, I see way more tactical and operational success in Israel.
Exactly.
Versus CIA history is full of blunders.
Right.
There's six times.
ian carroll
Exactly.
Yeah.
unidentified
And they seem to just bungle everything up.
And then you arrive at the 90s and the Epstein operation running for 20 years, basically.
Yeah.
And they got caught in 2007, right?
And then it just was allowed to continue.
ian carroll
Well, they apparently had so much dirt that someone high enough up in our own government was able to tell Alex Acosta to stop, or he was taking orders from Israelis.
unidentified
And either way, that clearly puts Israel one peg up on us in 2007 in terms of their power structure.
Because in 2007, we were still much closer to Bill Clinton's presidency when whoever's running this operation, you know, who knows, had just compromised the president of the United States of America.
So if, in my mind, if you put the CIA above Israel in sort of the tier of control, that doesn't really align with what happened with the Epstein case in my opinion.
Well, and obviously in 2007, we were in the midst of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.
It was very important for our so-called national security interests that Israel's reputation remain intact during that time.
Just as it is now.
Yeah.
So I'd be really curious, Chase, what your take is on this phase three rep Anna Paulina Luna tweet that you read earlier on on the show was about how it's phase three now and we're getting ready to return and there was no phase two.
ian carroll
She never told us about phase two, right?
chase geiser
Bro, can you imagine if George Lucas skipped Empire Strikes Back?
unidentified
Exactly, right?
Or he played Empire Strikes Back in the back room with him and his buddies and then came out and just started playing Return of the Jedi.
But Rep Anna Paulina Luna comes out and she literally says, this is 4D chess, not checkers, like buckle up or pop some popcorn or something.
ian carroll
It's like, okay, girl, let's slow the hell down.
unidentified
So I like Representative Anna Paulina Luna.
chase geiser
I think that she's a good person.
unidentified
And I don't think that she's stupid.
I don't presume so, but there's a difference between stupid and ignorant.
And I just don't think she knows what the hell she's talking about.
Yeah, I feel like she's playing way.
I think she's cool.
She's a sweetheart.
Obviously, everybody wants it to be 4D chess.
chase geiser
That would be nice.
unidentified
Yeah.
I would have loved it if Joe Biden had been playing 4D chess for the course of the last four years instead of Connect 4 with eight-year-olds on the floor of the Oval Office.
Yeah.
But look, there have been examples of Trump doing things that I totally opposed that seem to have worked out.
And I'll give you an example, and you can push back on this if you want.
Ian, I thought that bombing Iran was inevitably going to be World War III, inevitably going to be boots on the ground, as Lindsey Graham would have it in Iran.
And it did, at least short term, result in an immediate ceasefire between Israel and Iran.
So I'm kind of taking the hit on that one.
chase geiser
Like, all right, Trump, like he took a risk and he was right and I was wrong.
unidentified
So I'm hoping that the Sepstein thing, but the difference with the Sepstein thing, and I do believe that he's been worked into the files by the Democrats who have been holding these files for the last several years.
But the problem is, instead of Trump coming clean and being honest and saying, look, there's no client list.
And we've recently discovered that the Democrats have tried to integrate me into this list just as they tried to integrate me into this Russia hoax, which is coming out now.
So we're not going to release it yet.
We're going to vet the credible stuff and we're going to let you know.
If he would have come out and been transparent about that, rather than saying, my former supporters are stupid, or Alex Jones is a dumb shit, or just alienating all of us because we're people, man.
chase geiser
Like, you know, me, you know, the Infowars crew.
I sacrificed a lot to work here.
unidentified
I've sacrificed a lot of money that I was making to work here.
And this crew, many of them haven't had a raise in years because of the lawsuits that we're in.
chase geiser
We literally burned the ships for Donald Trump because it was like Star Wars.
Help me, Donald Trump.
unidentified
You're our only hope.
chase geiser
Like he, like, we needed him to live up to the expectations that were set by the marketing and the branding.
unidentified
And so we gave our lives for him.
And for him to be so quick to criticize so brazenly and hatefully, that's a problem.
Yeah.
So there's a way that he could have handled this.
Pamboni could have handled this, I think, without alienating so much of the base.
I'm willing to forgive him about it.
I still think I made the right decision voting for him.
chase geiser
Who else was I supposed to vote for?
Kamala Harris and Tim Walls?
unidentified
Yeah.
But I'm definitely disappointed.
Okay, go ahead.
It's your turn.
No, I'm with you.
chase geiser
Well, we've got 40 seconds left till the break.
unidentified
So maybe we should just tease.
Yeah, so here's what I'm going to do.
I'm going to try to convince everybody I can to buy something and I'm going to let you respond on the other side of the break.
ian carroll
There we go.
chase geiser
All right, folks, we got a 25% off sale at thealxjonestore.com.
unidentified
And for the love of God, take advantage of this because we need your support more now than ever.
chase geiser
They are trying to shut us down.
unidentified
They are actually taking steps, which I'm going to leave to Alex to talk about to accomplish this goal.
But you can fund the next operation by going to the alexjonestore.com.
chase geiser
We have this amazing knife, 25% off now, just like everything on the store this weekend only, for sale at the alexjonesstore.com.
It's absolutely incredible.
He pulled it apart.
unidentified
It's got 1776 on one side, Alex Jones' signature on the other side.
chase geiser
He comes in a beautiful box with a beautiful case.
unidentified
Go now and be the reason we will always be on the air.
So we had Stuart Rhodes, the founder of Oath Keepers, former J-Six political prisoner, constitutional lawyer, so much more on Paratrooper.
And he wanted to try methylene blue like so many other guests have done.
Life here, I got so busy with all the Iran war stuff and the commies rioting.
alex jones
If you ever get him to take it on air, all the guests, dozens of them that have taken it within 45 minutes of an hour, have varying degrees from extreme energy, it feels really great to foglifting to just over the top crying.
unidentified
It feels so good.
Especially the first time you take it.
Electrochemical nemitochondria cleans out the cells, just does incredible things.
Market Jr. loves it.
They've got the strongest holds of Methylene Blue.
alex jones
But he's going on Owen in about 30 minutes.
unidentified
Because my show just ended.
I forgot to do this.
He's like, hey, are we doing Methylene Blue?
So he's going to take it now.
But guys, don't forget when he's on Owen.
So maybe he forgets before he's going to go off to tell us what he felt.
And if he doesn't feel it, we'll put that out.
I've had like out of 300 plus people given it to two people to not feel it.
alex jones
That means your motor contributor is in perfect shape.
unidentified
So Stuart, go ahead and take a half dropper or something.
It's about half dose.
And then go ahead and shut that down.
And then we're going to find out what happens to you.
We'll see.
Most people, it explains about 30 minutes for speaking after a couple hours.
But you're going to be on Owen's.
Please, before you go, just tell people what you think.
And if you don't feel it, we're going to tell everybody.
20 minutes later.
I can feel a definite, like, an energy spike.
stewart rhodes
Yeah, this feels pretty good.
unidentified
What are you going to do now?
Or energy spike?
I'm going to see if it has a crash.
I've never heard of a crash.
Yeah, apparently it doesn't.
stewart rhodes
But yeah, it feels pretty good.
unidentified
Yeah, definitely.
It feels sharper.
Okay.
Yeah, it feels pretty tired.
owen shroyer
Oh, really?
stewart rhodes
Yeah, well, you're running around Texas right now dealing with some other issues here.
I was driving all over Texas giving speeches for True Texas Project, and that was pretty, pretty fishing asleep.
unidentified
Yeah, I feel pretty good.
So, did he give you the drink or the capsules?
I took the drink, but I got a bottle of each, and I'm going to go and do a longer-term test.
We'll see how it goes.
Okay.
stewart rhodes
Yeah, I do feel kind of amped right now.
unidentified
Yeah.
owen shroyer
That's good.
unidentified
Well, that's probably that.
I don't know.
That might be because you're hanging out with me.
So we got to maybe try to get.
I think it's with Bethel Wing Blue.
Leading a frontal assault on the lies of the New World Order.
It's Alex Jones defending tomorrow tonight.
It's your host, Chase Geyser.
Ladies and gentlemen, it's tomorrow's news tonight.
I am Chase Geyser.
chase geiser
I am joined by Ian Carroll.
unidentified
Ian, I ranted at you for like four minutes straight.
I want to give you a chance to respond.
You had thoughts.
I can't even remember what I said.
Sometimes you just get in flow, and that is how the news goes.
The news is coming at us like a fire hose these days.
Yes.
And when dots start to connect and click, it's just you sometimes you just have to let the flow take over and you know see where it leads.
ian carroll
Because just now during the break, I was talking with you about whether or not this whole, so this whole, all this reporting on the treasonous conspiracy, Tulsi Gabbard calling for prosecution of Barack Obama, Jim Comey, John Brennan, and others, that they are breaking new ground in the Russia hoax.
It like in some ways, in isolation, that story feels like such old news.
unidentified
I mean, everybody knew eight years ago, but now the institutions are actually admitting it.
That's kind of a big deal.
Exactly.
It is a big deal.
The institutions are admitting it, but at the same time, it's Trump's institutions that are admitting it.
So it's that.
It is, but they have real evidence.
Exactly.
Right.
And so there's two dogs in me.
One is like, yeah, I already know what this thing says without even reading it.
And the other of me is like, ah, that's kind of cool.
ian carroll
But now, I don't know if it was you actually putting these dots together, if I was just connecting them for you in my mind.
unidentified
But hearing Trump starting, like, you know, rumblings of like, is Trump in the Epstein files?
ian carroll
And, oh, they, they, you know, fabricated this other conspiracy, and maybe they're not releasing the Epstein files because they're the Democrats fabricated Trump into the Epstein files.
It's like, that's an interesting theory.
unidentified
And you said off air just a second ago, like, whether it's true or not, it might be their angle that they're trying to play, right?
And I'd be really curious to dig that open a little more because the whether you think Trump's in the Epstein files?
I mean, I think the Epstein files are an amorphous blob of information that just documents Epstein's life through witness testimony and through investigations and surveillance and all these things.
ian carroll
And certainly Trump was in Epstein's life and they were friends at a time.
unidentified
And so I think certainly he's in the files.
ian carroll
I mean, he's in like several people's testimony, I think, including Joanna Schoberg, but I forget exactly which woman testified about hearing about Trump, meeting Trump, et cetera.
unidentified
But I think Trump is strangely afraid of his involvement with Epstein in a way that might be his ego.
Why would he have signed the EO to release the files?
I think he didn't know that he was in there until he signed the EO and they brought it to him.
You think not?
Yes.
Otherwise, he never would have signed it.
Interesting.
ian carroll
That's a good point.
unidentified
That's a good point.
I mean, why would you sign for the declassification of documents that incriminate you knowingly?
And then backpedal.
ian carroll
Well, there's a huge difference between incriminate you knowingly and like you're mentioned in them, right?
In the Epstein case, there's all sorts of nuance between people that like, you know, rode on the plane once or raped a whole bunch of kids.
unidentified
My wife's friends wasn't compliant.
Exactly.
And we went one time to the beach.
So I could see there being an element of that, of Trump thinking he's in the files in this way and then saying release them.
And then they get them and then they're like, oh, this is not the files that we thought the files were.
But ultimately, in my mind, the real crime here is that, or not crime, but the question, the question mark, the ultimate question is that we're acting like the files are just the papers on the desk, as though that's all we could possibly know about Jeffrey Epstein, right?
Is whatever files they already collected, that's all you could ever know.
Like, bro, Leslie Wexner is free.
He's an American citizen living in Ohio in one of the biggest mansions in Ohio.
And no one has ever asked him a single question.
ian carroll
No one has ever deposed him.
No one ever has gone to him and said, hey, why did you hire two different pedophiles to run two different sex trafficking rings simultaneously?
unidentified
And the only client of Epstein that's publicly known, right?
The only actual finance client.
Yes.
Yes.
And why did you hire him?
Why did you give him power of attorney?
ian carroll
Please show us the internal documentation of such, right?
There's never been any real investigation into Leslie Wexner, and he is clearly a linchpin of this whole thing, right?
unidentified
And so there's somewhere where you could just go and ask some questions.
Even if statute of limitations has expired on this or that, it hasn't expired on conspiracy.
Sure.
And not to mention the fact that even if all the Epstein files have been totally deleted or destroyed, you still know who all the witnesses are.
So you can go re-interview them and get all those documents back.
chase geiser
Stay with us.
We're going to be back in one minute with more from Ian Carroll on the other side.
unidentified
He gave you the methylene blue drink earlier.
owen shroyer
Is that correct?
unidentified
Yeah.
And he wanted you to do a review.
Hey, I could feel a definite, like an energy spike.
Yeah, it feels pretty good.
What are you going to do now?
Energy spike.
I'm going to see if it has a crash.
I've never heard of a crash.
Yeah, apparently it doesn't.
But yeah, it feels pretty good.
Yeah, definitely feels sharper.
owen shroyer
Okay.
unidentified
Yeah, it feels pretty tired.
Oh, really?
owen shroyer
Well, you're running around Texas right now and dealing with some other issues.
unidentified
I was driving all over Texas giving speeches for True Texas Project, and that was pretty efficient and sleep.
stewart rhodes
Yeah, I'm feeling pretty good.
unidentified
So did he give you the drink or the capsules?
I took the drink, but I got a bottle of each, and I'm going to go and do a longer-term test.
We'll see how it goes.
Yeah, I do feel kind of amped right now.
That's good.
Well, that's probably, I don't know, that might be because you're hanging out with me.
So we got to maybe try to get away.
stewart rhodes
I think it's from Bethlehem Blue.
unidentified
If you want to shine like the sun, you've got to burn like it.
You're listening to Tomorrow's News Tonight with your host, Chase Geyser.
Ladies and gentlemen, I am Chase Geyser.
chase geiser
This is Tomorrow's News Tonight.
unidentified
We have 54 minutes left of this relentless broadcast.
Ian Carroll is joining me in studio.
Ian, we were talking about the nuance and breadth of what Epstein really is.
Please continue.
Well, right before the break, we were talking about how many loose strings are still attached to, shall we say, the living.
ian carroll
There's still people walking around that know everything.
unidentified
And I was talking about Leslie Wexner being one of the most powerful and wealthy of those loose strings.
Yes.
Maybe Ehud Barak would be another one.
ian carroll
Although that would.
unidentified
I mean, yeah.
ian carroll
He's still having blackmail scandals.
unidentified
Just last year, the end of 2024, Ehud Barak's company, Paragon, got into a giant blackmail scandal in Italy because it came out that Paragon had sold their software Graphite, which is a hacking software, to this little Italian firm and that Israeli intelligence officers were visiting the little Italian firm and giving them orders to do illegal operations using the blackmail, the hacking software to blackmail people and create dossiers and all this stuff.
ian carroll
And Ehud Barak was one of the founders of that company, along with Ehud Schneerson, the ex-head of Unit 8200.
unidentified
So Ehud Barak is still very much kicking.
ian carroll
But beyond those two that were highly involved in the Epstein operation, you could talk to Sarah Kellen.
unidentified
Sarah Kellen was Ghelane Maxwell's right-hand gal, right?
ian carroll
Probably an ex-victim that was then groomed and recruited into the operation.
She was instrumental in recruiting the girls, in normalizing the behaviors, in grooming all of Epstein's victims, but she was also keeping the books and keeping the schedules and keeping the receipts.
She knew everything, you know, most of everything.
unidentified
She sure knew enough to incriminate some people.
And she has been living a perfectly normal life for the last 10 years.
She got married to a NASCAR driver, changed her name, was living in a multi-million dollar mansion in New York and had a second one in Florida.
No one's ever prosecuted her.
And she is a known associate, co-conspirator of this plot, right?
That apparently trafficked girls to no one.
So that's just a small handful.
You could go to Glenn Dubin.
ian carroll
You could go on and on and on to his.
chase geiser
It's not like the JFK assassination where if the files were deleted, we would never know.
No, all of these people are still alive.
unidentified
Yes.
And the thing that the thing that I most got out of the Tucker and Daryl interview between Daryl's deep expertise, which I did not, I've never seen Daryl speak in free, like in live context about Epstein and his knowledge is so deep from the level of research that he does.
And when you pair that with Tucker's integration into Washington and how many people he knows and all the experience he has, there were a lot of subtle comments that kind of got exchanged in that interview that just really reminded you how many people knew Jeffrey Epstein.
ian carroll
Yes.
And how many people knew exactly what Jeffrey Epstein was up to and why they called the plane the Lolita Express, right?
unidentified
In reference to the film Lolita, right?
chase geiser
So I didn't know that.
unidentified
So Tucker does it better.
chase geiser
What happens in his own Lolita?
unidentified
It's apparent.
I have not seen it.
ian carroll
It's apparently about a older guy or someone who kidnaps like a 12-year-old girl and takes her, like not kidnaps, but like grooms, abducts, and takes his like 12-year-old girl away for four years and like rapes her and stuff.
unidentified
It's like a whole film book.
I think it's.
Who coined the term Lolita Express?
I don't actually know.
I'd be curious if any of the original journalists that broke the story know where it first came from.
ian carroll
I presume my guess is that it just kind of arose.
unidentified
Rachel Maddow.
Rachel Maddow.
And meanwhile, what's Rachel Maddow reporting on today?
She got a major pay cut.
Nobody's ever.
No, the only time you see Rachel Maddow is when we play a clip on InfoWars and make fun of her.
ian carroll
I'm sure that my parents are still watching Rachel Maddow every week, and I bet that she's still loving them.
unidentified
Yeah, of course I do.
ian carroll
I just, I also know that they're watching Rachel Maddow.
unidentified
They love you?
Yeah, they're confused.
Really?
Well, they just, they love me and they love what I'm doing.
They're so proud, but they also are trying to listen to Rachel Maddow and all of her lies.
And it's confusing.
chase geiser
When was the last time she told the truth about anything?
unidentified
It was certainly before the Russia.
They tried to give Alex hell for getting one thing allegedly wrong 10 years ago.
CNN and MSNBC, they got 10 things wrong one hour ago.
Yeah, exactly.
Two-tier justice system.
Wow, unbelievable.
Why do you think it is that Trump has been so, for lack of a better term, bizarre in his handling of this in the last two weeks?
Like, if you had to guess for a million dollars, write down what you think's really going on, what's happening, and then it was assessed later by a source for accuracy in order to award you the $1 million.
What would you guess in order to win that goal?
I think it's got to be some sort of blackmail, whether it's directly on Trump or a family member.
It might not even be stuff that was originally gathered by Epstein.
It could be more recent by something else.
It could be blackmail against American politics.
It could be blackmail against the political party of MAGA, or it could be blackmail in terms of like, we'll release this operation that you were involved in in 2017.
Or it's hard to say.
It doesn't seem like a coincidence that within 24 hours of him saying it was a nothing burger, there's a Nobel Peace nomination from no, and BB is on his way over here already when he says it.
And it's just all so weird.
And like, for example, JD Vance was on a podcast just like, I forget which podcast it was.
Theo Vaughn.
ian carroll
It was Theo Vaughn, right?
Just a month or so before being like, yeah, we should really release those files.
Like, where are those files?
Those are good files to release.
chase geiser
I don't think he knew.
ian carroll
No, of course he didn't.
unidentified
JD had no idea what he was walking into.
ian carroll
He thought that he was just being like good old, like Scott's Irish hillbilly walking into the White House, being a normal American dude.
unidentified
But little did he know that he was Trump's, he was Teal's pick for 2028 president to rule over everybody for the technocrats.
And when they're going to call in all those favors, little did he know that he was Trump's scapegoat for like, whatever the heck he's going to do.
ian carroll
It's just, it's madness in there.
unidentified
I don't know.
chase geiser
So, man, you really don't like Teal, do you?
unidentified
I do kind of like Teal.
I probably haven't decided.
ian carroll
Oh, no, no.
unidentified
Teal, I hate Peter Teal.
F. Teal.
ian carroll
Like, I mean, I'm sure he's probably a perfectly like great guy if he's, if you're his friend.
unidentified
Everything Teal stands for is abomination.
chase geiser
Like everything Teal is bringing into.
unidentified
You can't do Palantir all that stuff.
ian carroll
Deeply.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian carroll
Absolutely.
Yeah.
unidentified
I am too.
Because though they're smaller than other major DOD contractors, the amount of valuation for them is insane and the amount of revenue growth is insane.
ian carroll
Well, and how deeply enmeshed they are, right?
Palantir did a thing that, as far as I'm aware, not really any other contractors thought to do, which was to pair the massive power of big data and LLMs and this like the cutting edge of AI with like battlefield information tech.
chase geiser
Yeah.
ian carroll
Like I'm sure there's other people chasing that goal, but Palantir seems to have, you know, pulled way out ahead in that race and done it while being led by some very influential and connected people in Peter Thiel being able to like literally, if not the first in Facebook.
chase geiser
Yeah, I think he messed it up.
unidentified
Oh, absolutely.
chase geiser
I'm sure he made billions upon billions on top of that.
unidentified
Yeah.
And all the.
The interesting thing about Peter Thiel is if you take Teal and Teal Capital and you look at somebody like Weinstein, Eric Weinstein, Eric Weinstein was the CFO for Teal Capital for many years.
Well, yeah, that's that's the thing.
And this is the, this is where it gets subtle is that I'm sure like, so JD Vance, for example, he's met Peter Thiel and J.D. Vance is like some normal dude that's, you know, unless he was Illuminati and they went to Skull and Bones, who knows?
ian carroll
But I'm sure he knows Peter Thiel and is like, this guy's so cool.
unidentified
He's so great.
ian carroll
He got me inspired to work in tech and he's like donated all my campaigns.
unidentified
He's a normal guy.
Yeah.
Like, yeah, he is.
ian carroll
But what is his company actually doing?
unidentified
Like, you could work for the guy and he'd be a totally normal guy to work for.
And you could even work on the technology.
And it's like, yeah, it's a revolutionary technology.
ian carroll
It's a, it's a logical technology and we are going there.
unidentified
But once you get into these highly powerful surveillance systems, weapon systems, a technology that has the power to do great evil or great good, little moral subtleties matter tremendously.
Yes.
Right.
ian carroll
And for example, Peter Thiel's stuttering ineptitude to answer moral questions about Israel's treatment of Palestinians speaks to someone who is indifferent to human suffering if it furthers his corporate goals, right?
unidentified
Well, and he's got a history of sociopathic tendencies.
I'm not saying that he's a sociopath, but if you look at what he did to Gawker after they added him as a homosexual, he entirely conspired to destroy that whole company.
I don't actually know a lot about that story.
There's a book about it by Ryan Holliday called Conspiracy.
And I'm sure that you could have ChatGPT summarize it for you in bullet points.
Probably better to just read it, though.
Yeah.
But yeah, Gawker, I believe it was Gawker, outed him as homosexual.
And Peter Thiel just went on a mission to ensure that Gawker didn't exist anymore and he bankrupt him.
And they don't.
And they don't, right?
And which is understandable.
I mean, there's so many of these leftist media outlets that I would love to bankrupt, but not for a personal vendetta when they've got families.
You know what I mean?
There are people that I've worked with that I wanted to try to get fired because they were so terrible at their job.
And then I think to myself, but they have a kid.
Yep.
And I don't do it.
You know what I mean?
So there is certainly a lack of empathy there, I think, with Thiel, but I'm not prepared to say that he's evil yet just because I don't know enough.
And that's such a powerful allegation.
But I do trust you.
And I don't doubt you.
And my concern about Palantir, and this is something I worked for a DOD contractor years ago when I was in college as an intern.
And they would pay you like tons of money because they had to spend their entire budget every single year.
Otherwise, they wouldn't get the same funding the next year.
It was called Energetics Technology Center, I believe.
And what they would do is just research and propose for the DOD new weapon systems, whether it was like sonic-based detection for mine sweeping or ballistic missile technology to have the ballistic explode at the exact right moment on impact and enable battle.
I mean, they were doing some cool stuff.
chase geiser
I don't know how consequential it was, but it was a small nonprofit.
unidentified
Of course, it's a nonprofit funded by the government.
And when I worked for them, it was just, it was really a part of the conversation, how important informatics was.
And what informatics is, is getting the information that you want from a massive amount of data.
Oh, yeah.
So for an extended period of time, our government has been able to collect all data, all of your text messages, all your call records, presumably recordings of all of your phone calls themselves, all your emails, all the stuff that Snowden came out with.
It's been at least one, probably two, maybe even three decades.
The government's been able to collect all of your data.
The problem is they don't have enough people to go through all that data.
chase geiser
So they would do some cute things like only call attention to things with certain keywords that might be indicative of a terrorist attack or a bomb threat.
But this is where AI comes in.
unidentified
Because if you have a sophisticated artificial intelligence, large language model or otherwise, it can go into the massive data that already exists and it can pull out all the stuff that it's prompted to pull out about anyone at any time.
So if they want to incriminate you, Ian Carroll, and they have no idea whether you've ever done anything wrong or not, you can weaponize this artificial intelligence to go into all of your communications and identify where you might have made a mistake on your tax forms or lied on your taxes.
Easy.
You ever email anybody about it, right?
chase geiser
So this is the concern that we should have about this future AI.
Not just not the only concern, but a huge one because informatics now is completely disrupted.
It's not about manpower.
unidentified
Now the technology is there for them to know whatever they want, whenever they want, about whomever they want.
This is government omniscience.
Well, take, for example, the ICE protest that just happened in LA, right, a couple weeks ago.
And they're burning Mexican flags and it's this whole thing and they send in the National Guard, right?
You might be on the side of those protesters.
I'm generally not, right?
Like if you're deporting illegal aliens, illegal immigrants, you know, deport them.
But it would be pretty easy for the government to try to make the argument that those are domestic terrorists, right?
ian carroll
That they are burning cars, they're burning the city, they are generally burning America for another nation, holding another nation's flag, right?
unidentified
They're even burning themselves.
And so they were targeted.
Palantir was used to help target them and to help identify them all, right?
chase geiser
Yeah.
unidentified
But what if Palantir was used to target Occupy Wall Street?
Like we were protesting exactly, right?
ian carroll
Where does the line get drawn?
unidentified
Because next present, like maybe Trump does great.
ian carroll
Maybe Trump is totally playing chess and he does a great job for four years.
unidentified
But then who's in next and who's in next and who's in next?
And when every single thing that every single American does in any digital context, which is about to be everything we do, is recorded, AI scraped, AI organized, and then AI tabulated, I guess, like recorded, that becomes a very fine line between who is a domestic terrorist and who is exercising free speech.
Yes, right?
chase geiser
And this is the problem that we have with our government, generally speaking.
It's one of the criticisms of American politics that the likes of Xi Jinping have.
It's the difference between dictatorship and democracy, for lack of a better term.
unidentified
I know it's a constitutional republic.
chase geiser
Hitler even wrote about this in Mein Kampf.
He wrote about how necessary it was for the entire political party to be subservient to the leader of the party in order for continual progress toward a long-term vision.
This is an advantage that the CCP has over the United States of America.
We change leaders every four years or every eight years, most commonly every eight years.
unidentified
And our vision, it zigs and zags in a way that some of our competitors, like the CCP, don't.
You got Bibi Netanyahu, who's been in power 18 years, plus and minus with some breaks, plus or minus with some breaks.
So that's a lot of continuity of government that doesn't really exist here.
And so I think you're exactly right.
I mean, we could be using Palantir right now to capture ICE protesters that are burning down cities.
And then some leftist like AOC gets in in 2028 and says, yeah, I know those J6ers were pardoned for what they did on J6, but what about what else they might have done?
chase geiser
And they just weaponized that AI to go in and pull that.
unidentified
And look, I'm not blaming Palantir.
There's got to be some technology that does what Palantir does.
I'm just not sure that you can ever guarantee a lack of corruption with this level of power.
chase geiser
I mean, this is very much ring of mortar.
unidentified
It really is.
ian carroll
Yeah.
unidentified
I mean, at the very least, you need some very strong, very clear legal codification of how it can be used, how it cannot be used, and how to protect our constitutional rights from it.
And I don't see anyone talking about that.
I don't see anyone in the government pushing for that.
I certainly don't see Peter Thiel or the technocrats pushing for any limitation on their power.
And obviously, the government's not going to push for limitations on their power.
And so that's where the base concern comes from: the power is being invented and no one is going to do anything to put any guardrails around it, right?
Yeah.
Derek, let's run that clip that Brett suggested of the godfather of artificial intelligence.
chase geiser
Do you have that ready?
unidentified
run it your majesties your royal highnesses excellencies dear laureates ladies and gentlemen
this year the nobel committees in physics and chemistry have recognized the dramatic progress being made in a new form of artificial intelligence that uses artificial neural networks to learn how to solve difficult computational problems This new form of AI excels at modeling human intuition rather than human reasoning.
And it will enable us to create highly intelligent and knowledgeable assistants who will increase productivity in almost all industries.
If the benefits of the increased productivity can be shared equally, it will be a wonderful advance for all humanity.
Unfortunately, the rapid progress in AI comes with many short-term risks.
It has already created divisive echo chambers by offering people content that makes them indignant.
It is already being used by authoritarian governments for massive surveillance and by cyber criminals for phishing attacks.
In the near future, AI may be used to create terrible new viruses and horrendous.
Well, there you have it, folks.
What are your thoughts?
I think that we do not even begin to understand the depths of risk we're taking with AI.
I agree.
ian carroll
And I hate to say it, but we're not going to have to wait long to find out.
unidentified
And I think the best, the easiest place to see this is in AI video because AI video is so immediately understandable and we all see it.
And it's evolved so quickly in the last four to five years.
And I don't know if you've been looking at the state of AI video right now, but a whole bunch of new updates just came out, like VO3 and all these other.
It's all these different models that can produce video that are better at different things.
And every different company is racing to be the best and the first.
But they're basically all indistinguishable from real life now.
And they're basically all easy to use by anyone, right?
And that's just the stuff that we publicly have that we all can use, right?
I mean, God knows I've used AI video creation.
Exactly.
You're excellent at it.
ian carroll
Yeah.
unidentified
And it's a wonderful tool for art and for creativity and for productivity for creating things when used appropriately, right?
ian carroll
But it is also so easily a scam, so easily a deceptive tactic, but it also just devalues, it just undermines truth in a way that we don't have an answer for yet.
unidentified
And that is just AI video, not to mention AI information, AI research, AI Google searches, but then AI teachers, AI personal assistants, AI advisors, AI lawmakers, and AI judges, right?
Lovers.
ian carroll
AI lovers.
unidentified
And that's the big one that is already well on its way.
I was at Bitcoin conference in Las Vegas and quite uncomfortably, they had a lady robot in the corner.
Perfect.
With like her face and everything and the skin.
And she was like in there in the corner.
They could be like, hello.
But I stayed the hell away from that.
To be fair, I was like, we were busy and we were just passing through, but I saw it and it was over there.
And I know because I then did a bunch of research in the last month about robotics, AI, drones, et cetera, to do this current presentation.
And the current state of it is an arms race, not just to the first human companion robots, but also obviously to the first militant robots, the first soldier robots, really.
I saw this art display.
chase geiser
I think it was in China somewhere.
unidentified
I'm not sure.
And it was a robot dog, the ones that we see all the time, designed to attack any human that walked by and it was on a chain.
And so when you walked by this art exhibit, this dog is just like going nuts after you, right?
And it was just, oh my God.
But my concern, you touched on this.
chase geiser
My concern is, look, we're in an information war and we have been for many years, really 50 years at least.
unidentified
Honestly, going back to the beginning of written history, but it escalated a lot after World War II and escalated to another degree after the internet age, right?
And now we're at this pinnacle.
Traditionally speaking, when it comes to propaganda, maybe the CIA can get involved in a Hollywood script.
They can come out with top gun at the right moment to make everybody just hoorah against the Russians, and they come out with a new top gun at the right moment to make everybody hoorah against the Iranians or whatever.
It's been a blanket approach.
I mean, when we denazified Germany after World War II, we dropped flyers just like the Maoists would drop flyers, just like the Nazis would propagate literally the root of propaganda, information.
It was a blanket approach to trying to win over a percentage of the populace.
But with artificial intelligence that understands every individual's psychological profile, their behavior history, their thinking infrastructure or patterns, their pathological tendencies.
The level of propaganda that's going to be conducted on our children, my children, is insane because it's not going to be a blanket ad or a blanket movie or a blanket push and rap like it was maybe over the last 30 years.
chase geiser
It's going to be for my daughter specifically, we have to say this.
unidentified
And for my other daughter specifically, we have to say that.
And for all these children specifically, however many millions of them there are, if we specifically present them with information in this intentional way, we will get them all to arrive at the same conclusion.
That is what I'm concerned about.
ian carroll
Absolutely.
And that could be used to educate the most intelligent, capable, confident, well-put together generation of humanity that we've ever known, right?
unidentified
That could be used for such greatness if we only had real patriotic, moral people in charge.
But instead, it is already and will be used to sell the maximum number of products to your children, to teach them to be dependent on government and on corporations and on outside influences.
And we are all just letting it happen.
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unidentified
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unidentified
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Oh, so you want to stay away from the fight?
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Go out.
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what you are those
lie to you about what's happening now tomorrow's news tonight tells you the truth about what's happening next with your host chase geyser Ladies and gentlemen, this is tomorrow's news tonight.
chase geiser
We have 24 minutes and 13 seconds left of this transmission.
unidentified
Breaking news, eight healthy babies born via IVF.
I support IVF.
But using the DNA from three people.
chase geiser
In the United Kingdom, medical professionals have successfully delivered eight babies using a pioneering fertility procedure that incorporates DNA from three people.
unidentified
This method aims to safeguard children from inheriting severe mitochondrial disorders.
Births represent a cautious advancement in assisted reproduction, prioritizing family health and stability.
It's basically like Gattaca, the movie Gattaca that everybody had to watch in high school biology when they learned about the DNA infrastructure.
And look, I understand.
I got a genetic bleeding disorder, type A hemophilia.
chase geiser
I would understand if my parents, knowing that their children were prone to such a disease, engaging in IVF and trying to modify the genetics of their future child so they wouldn't suffer from a predisposition or a condition that they want to prevent.
unidentified
But it seems like this is a dangerous path to lead.
A steepery slope.
Let's clarify here, real quick, so that I'm understanding that headline correctly.
Eight people were born.
Yes.
ian carroll
But each of those eight people included DNA from three people.
chase geiser
That's correct.
unidentified
That's correct.
So there's no like one father.
Yeah.
Presumably, I don't know if it was the mothers or the father's DNA.
ian carroll
What could possibly go wrong?
unidentified
Can you imagine?
Did we not just have issues with an mRNA shot that was maybe vaguely modifying the slightest bit of DNA and suddenly like millions of people are having hardware?
We've been debating about weather modification for two weeks, Ian.
Like, and this is baby modification, bro.
This is human gene.
Designer vacation.
It is, I mean, this is so beyond designer babies.
We've had designer babies for quite some time, and there are all kinds of moral quandaries with that.
I mean, that you've been able to like select so you can already get a whole bunch of your eggs examined and make sure that they're not.
But you're at least choosing from your own.
You are choosing from your own DNA.
Yes.
This is like, hey, I want him to be 6'5.
This is Gattaca level stuff.
I want him not to have a heart condition.
I want his IQ to be 133.
Yeah.
And what could possibly go wrong with that?
Well, here's the deal, man.
Nature has an awesome way of balancing out things naturally, not to be redundant.
We have about the same amount of women born as men, for example.
chase geiser
There's a little bit of a difference, but it balances out naturally.
unidentified
And let's just say that we live in a civilization that really values artists.
And so everybody pays a big buck to have millions of babies with the same exact interests and personality profiles.
That just totally screws up the natural diversity and not to mention the classism of it as well.
Like people of similar IQs and similar attractiveness tend to marry people of similar IQs and similar attractiveness.
They often have complementary genes.
But if we're getting into this designer thing, I mean, we're going to screw up the population long term.
I think this is, this is, this leads massively to depopulation, actually.
Oh, absolutely.
ian carroll
It's like, I mean, let's pretend that there's no God and no religion to even talk about here because holy, this is everything not godly about this universe.
unidentified
But just from a like logical standpoint here.
Okay, so if we let the normal humans just use this technology, they're clearly going to make horrible decisions like you've just elucidated, right?
ian carroll
Or they're all going to want their babies to like, you know, look like T-Pain or like whatever.
unidentified
You know, like people are fickle and dumb and they do not figure this stuff out.
If you could choose how your baby was going to be and everyone could choose how their baby was going to be, we'd wind up some pretty big problems pretty quickly.
Yeah.
Like maybe it's even as simple as we just don't have any garbage collectors because everyone wanted to be a superstar.
ian carroll
But let's be real.
unidentified
It's not the regular people and the poor people that are going to be using that technology and being able to choose their babies.
It's the rich, right?
And I mean, let's be honest, like, if you were Bill Gates, wouldn't it be a lot better if we had, you know, the 1,000 richest people in the world being able to choose the ideal offspring and having as many as they wanted?
And then everybody else doesn't really need to take, like, give birth anymore because you're not needed anymore.
So why wouldn't you just get them all addicted to sex with robots and porn and just forget about the whole birth thing?
I mean, you're all infertile anyways because we gave you so many shots and we can just, you know, breed babies in tubes now.
So it's Brave New World meets 1984.
Yeah.
It's dark.
It's real dark.
How can I'm just asking you, man?
I've got two little girls, four and two years old.
How can I prevent them from falling into this trap?
Like so many in my generation, our generation fell into the social media algorithm trap.
How can I prevent my kids from falling into that AI manipulator trap?
I mean, everybody's got their own personal cult leader now.
Yeah.
I mean, I think it just comes down to ultimate, like teaching is such an art form.
And when you're teaching.
You were formerly a teacher.
Yeah.
I mean, I was an alt teacher, so to speak.
Like I didn't get a degree from a college.
I was raised by two teachers, then started volunteering and then worked from there.
I just like worked my way in because I thought you were real good at it.
ian carroll
Yeah.
unidentified
And I would argue I was.
And ultimately, the thing that I think that so many of us do wrong with our young people in this world is we try to protect them from things that they don't need protection from, and we fail to protect them from the things they do need protection from.
And those two go hand in hand because when you're trying to protect them from bad words and swear words and like offensive things and things that they could never understand, you're failing to directly address the things that they are coming in into contact with that they need your help understanding, right?
And so, and so a good example is telling them, like, for example, you have like a seven-year-old boy and you tell him, you're not allowed to use the computer without me, or like, you're not allowed to go to those sites.
But then the seven-year-old boy goes to his friend's house and goes to the sites and then he sees the boobies and he's like, oh, well, I'm not allowed to see that.
I can't talk to my parents about that.
So I'm just going to keep doing it with my friends in private.
That's what happened to me when I was growing up.
Right.
That's what most people in our generation wound up doing.
And you wind up with no spiritual guide through this thing that you need a spiritual guide through.
Yeah.
Right.
Because you, as a parent, you're trying to protect them from this thing in this really like blankety way when you should have been just being upfront with them of like, look, there's this stuff on the internet that is designed to manipulate your brain.
There's these advertisers on the internet.
There's these people using sex and porn on the internet.
There's these people using lies and deception on the internet.
And because you are young, I need to be here to help you.
ian carroll
Like you need, you need to find ways to talk your kid into understanding from as adult a perspective as possible why they need help understanding, right?
unidentified
And then being there with them for them to ask questions to, for them to bring their concerns to, because ultimately kids are in such a wild environment of media these days that most of their parents have no concept of.
ian carroll
Most people's parent, like most parents these days, like even the really hip ones like you guys, like your kids are growing up in an environment where they're going to know so much more about computers than you ever will.
unidentified
Give it 10 years and they will know things that you don't even know you don't know.
And so being able to build mature trust from an early age with your kids to be able to go through that journey with them of like them coming to you with concerns, coming to you with questions about the hard stuff on the internet, like whether that's pornography or violence or lies or advertising or whatever it is, it's just such a wild west of information and AI is breaking all of that wide open.
So for example, you've got young girls and AI beauty standards, like I don't even know what to make of AI beauty standards.
We come from there's nothing naturally possible.
chase geiser
It's like Barbara.
ian carroll
We come from the generation where Britney Spears, like the Britney Spears generation of celebrities, gave our entire generation of young girls anorexia and bulimia, right?
unidentified
And that was from what was actually realistically attainable if you are anorexic or bulimic.
And so nowadays we're in this world of like untruth that we don't know how to deal with.
And trying to pretend like we know how to parent through that and trying to pretend like you can protect your kids from all those questions, I don't see it happening.
I'm with you.
I'm with you.
I'm overwhelmingly concerned about artificial intelligence and the future of our civilization.
And it seems more and more obvious to me every day that goes by that the depopulation conspiracy is real.
Oh, yeah.
Not just because of offhand remarks that a Kamala Harris has made or an Elizabeth Warren has made or a Klaus Schwab or a Bill Gates has made, but because everything that I witness is incentivizing people not to have children.
Ultimately, I think the root problem, at least in the United States of America, goes all the way back to inflation.
And so you have this rampant inflation in the 70s when we go off the gold standard.
chase geiser
Inflation requires both parents to have to work in order to support a family, which catalyzed the feminist movement as a psychological cope.
unidentified
I actually think that feminism came as a reaction to the cultural shame that a man was no longer able to provide for his whole family.
And so in order to cope with that shame, it was women coming forward and saying, we want to work.
We want careers, right?
Then you have this massive inflation.
chase geiser
What happens is, since men and women have to both work, they both go to college to get degrees so they can have real careers.
unidentified
And instead of building a life together like they used to, they merge lives later.
And then, as inflation gets worse, people save up for longer before they have children.
And then they have fewer children as a result of having them later.
And then, since they both have to work and they're having children, they outsource the raising of their children to the state.
And then now we have a situation where we criticize Gen Z or millennials for living in their parents' basement until they're 30.
And there is legitimate criticism there, but the reason they're doing that is because there's no way they can afford a house on their own.
And nobody's going to get married if they don't have a house.
And so ultimately, I think that almost all of our problems from racial tension to depopulation to cultural shifts and family values go straight back to inflation.
But it sounds like you're saying that it's incidental, not intentional.
chase geiser
I don't know.
unidentified
You don't think the bankers know these things?
I think obviously you don't know the whole game.
I think it's both.
You obviously can't know every step along the way.
But like when you, so I'm kind of joking, but I'm also speaking from like when you read like conspiracy literature from the 30s through the 60s, kind of like a whole generation ago, and then some maybe, oh boy, did those conspiracy theories talk about the Illuminati and the bankers and the two babies.
Exactly.
But about them having these exact sort of plans revolving around the monetary control and then the population control.
And what does the Illuminati or the establishment gain from depopulation?
chase geiser
Just fewer people they have to control?
ian carroll
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
unidentified
I mean, fewer people that they have to control, fewer threats to their power structure, fewer people, like basically the more, I mean, the way I see it, tell me if you see it a different way, is the more close the middle class is to the upper class and the more of that middle class there is, the more threats to your space, right?
If you have just one giant lower class that's in poverty, far away from you in the upper class, you're free to play as long and as however you want.
chase geiser
They need a base to fund the political class, but they don't want a base that is a drain on the political class.
unidentified
They don't want anyone moving.
And it's why you see a lot of this Bill Gates stuff and a lot of this depopulation stuff.
It actually plays out first in third world countries before it plays out here.
chase geiser
Even if you look at fossil fuels, for example, if you look at this whole climate movement, this whole climate change movement, I have a couple of conspiracy ideas for the real reason behind it.
unidentified
And there's a few, I think they're all true in some dimension.
But it's by far third world countries that depend on fossil fuels the most.
chase geiser
We can eat it a little bit if we switch to wind or solar and it's less efficient.
unidentified
We can pay for that and eat it a little bit here in the United States of America because we're prosperous still relative to other nations, despite the fact that we're not nearly as prosperous as we could be or have been.
But in a third world country, when you rely on fossil fuels for heating and cooling and incubators in your hospitals and being able to actually make and prepare food in your home, these are the people that are impacted first.
chase geiser
And a lot of these countries, like in Africa, for example, they'll agree to these asinine green energy international treaties and deals without hesitation, equivocation, or mental reservation because they're so dependent on aid from other countries.
And so they just kind of play ball.
But then they have millions of people that can die as a result.
Like if we just turned off fossil fuels, millions upon millions of people would die as a result of this.
unidentified
And that's where I see the depopulation agenda playing out, not to mention the fact that Bill Gates, for example, laced a bunch of bedding nets with poison because it was supposed to stop malaria.
And he knew that people in third world countries used those nets for multiple purposes.
And so they fished with the nets that were laced with poison and they ate the poisonous fish and they died to the tune of millions because people who are poor use things for multiple purposes.
They're resourceful.
And that's where I see the directions.
And that's not to mention all the medications that have been being tested out on Africans for a long, old time, right?
ian carroll
I mean, the way that I see it is when you, it sounds very conspiratorial if you've not read the literature, if you've not actually read these people's ideas, but when you study eugenicist thinking across the last hundred years, whether that be in the Nazi regime or long before them or in much more modern times, like I would argue that Bill Gates is strikingly in the center of a eugenicist sort of genre of thinking.
unidentified
And a lot of the things that he has said are very eugenicist things to say.
That strand of thought has always swam in at least the corner of the scientific world and sometimes in the mainstream of the scientific world, because it is a scientific thought to think that like some things are better than others.
And if you have less of the bad things and more of the good things, everything would be better, right?
And over and over and over again, that human thought of we could improve this rears its head in a way that is out of touch with the fact that there are some lines you don't cross, right?
Yeah, sure, we could improve the population by killing all the poor people.
ian carroll
That's clearly a horrendous thing to think.
unidentified
And there is no world in which that's okay to do.
And so these sorts of articles about IVF, people being born from free people, it needs to be sat into the context of realizing that there are an awful lot of very wealthy, powerful people that have somewhat eugenicist mindsets today.
chase geiser
And it ties directly into artificial intelligence because even Larry Fink has come out and admitted this.
The response to the depopulation crisis in the West, whether it's in Japan, whether it's in China, whether it's in the United States of America, is to replace the labor force with robotics and artificial intelligence.
unidentified
That's why we're in an arms race with China right now over AI, because we understand from a national security perspective that it's untenable for us to have such dependence on China to supply all of our goods.
I mean, we saw what happened during COVID where we couldn't get toilet paper, we couldn't get insulin.
There was a number of different products that we were unable to get because they all came from the Shenzhen in China.
And so from a national security perspective, we're trying to win the artificial intelligence arms race so that China can't win it and then corner the market again on manufacturing at the cheapest, best cost into the 21st century.
And so I think the eugenics and the AI stuff really tie in and it reminds me of a theological detail.
And regardless of whether you believe in Christianity or God, I would argue that the Bible is still capital T true, regardless of whether you believe or admit that it's lowercase T true.
And what I mean by that is it's metaphysically true and principally true, regardless of whether you believe any of it actually happened, right?
So I would say, for example, to somebody who says Jesus Christ never came back from the dead, I say, no, no, no, it's capital T true, regardless of whether you think it literally happened.
To me as a Christian, and I identify as a Christian, it's not even important to me whether it literally happened because the capital T metaphysical truth of it is so much more profound and important than the historical truth of it, right?
And so in the Old Testament, we have God making us in his image.
And now we as human beings, seeing how that went, are making artificial intelligence in our image.
So it's like two deviations away.
It's one lower resolution away from what we as human beings inherently understand as metaphysically divine.
chase geiser
We're making something even more broken and distorted and prone to the fall of man.
It inherits all of the sin, but none of the free will that we were given in creation.
And I think there's some massive.
unidentified
We are putting that creation in charge of our own reproduction, right?
Yes.
Of our raising our creation and of raising our children and of running our schools and our prisons and our government and all these things, right?
And oh boy, is that Pandora's box?
ian carroll
Yes.
unidentified
I've never heard a more articulous fall of humanity.
There is no stopping it.
So the question then isn't how do we stop it?
chase geiser
The question is, how do we handle it?
unidentified
How do we ride?
chase geiser
We have decided to accept the ring of Mordor.
unidentified
How do we use it as best as we can without it going back into the hands of Sarah?
With great power comes great responsibility.
And the truth, like the way I feel about it, is that we all have that responsibility.
Even though we aren't all powerful, even though we don't all have influence or money, we are all utilizing the technology and we are all, our minds are all in the space.
Because ultimately, our culture is the collective nature of all of our thoughts, right?
Some of us have a little more power in the real world than others do.
ian carroll
But if we are all interfacing with this technology, we all have the same power to learn from it, to grow with it, to think about it.
unidentified
And if, imagine tomorrow everyone woke up and suddenly was an extremely intelligent, very wise, critical thinker that had, you know, learned a lot about how the world works.
ian carroll
Every American suddenly is like on it.
unidentified
Don't you think that America would do an awful lot better that next day and every day thereafter?
Who would harvest our fruits and vegetables, Ian, if we did that?
Well, maybe we would need robots.
ian carroll
But what I'm saying is that it's on all of us to think and to learn and to use the technology for what's best, for what's right, for our own betterment, for humanity, as much as possible right now.
unidentified
Because A, like we are being trained on it, but B, it is being trained on us.
And if we outsource all of the use of AI to, if we outsource the responsibility for making it and the responsibility for using it and all the technologies to all these very powerful, very weird people at the top of the pyramid, then they're going to have their way with it, right?
I want to get your feedback on this, Ian.
Yeah.
chase geiser
Let's run clip 29.
unidentified
This is Tucker Carlson, and I've heard him say some of these things.
chase geiser
I've heard stories of this privately.
unidentified
He's come out more publicly about it recently because this ties directly into what we're talking about.
Run clip 29.
chase geiser
Let's unpack it on the other side.
unidentified
I had one of the most interesting conversations I've ever had, I had with a very spiritually attuned, very smart friend of mine.
And I was saying, you know, I'm a man and I hate lying and I just want to be honest about it.
Like there, people do, you know, bad sexual stuff and I don't, but you could, I don't judge that much because you're like, yeah, you know, we're all in the wrong circumstance capable of anything.
But I said to this person, I don't get the like underage girl thing.
tucker carlson
That's like, they're not into it.
unidentified
They're kids.
Maybe I have too many kids or something.
I'm just, I'm not being self-reached.
I'm just being honest.
I just don't get that.
I don't see any appeal at all.
It's a pathological obsession.
I mean, Epstein was into girls with braces specifically.
chase geiser
Exactly.
unidentified
So what is that?
And the conventional explanation is, maybe I'm being too honest, but I think it's, I think this is really revealing because it's not about sex.
It's a spiritual thing.
And I said, what is that?
And this friend of mine said, it's the thrill of destroying innocence.
tucker carlson
That's what it is.
darryl cooper
Yeah.
unidentified
And that is the definition of evil.
tucker carlson
That is Satan, right?
Well, that was taking something pure.
unidentified
I guess this is maybe, I'm the only person who never thought of this.
Maybe you have already have.
tucker carlson
I had not thought of that.
unidentified
I was like, it's not just a sexual attraction.
Like, oh, I think, you know, underage girls with braces are hot.
They're not.
tucker carlson
No normal person thinks that.
unidentified
That's bizarre.
No.
The idea is that I'm destroying something that's pure.
Yeah.
And throughout history.
Well, that's just, that's Satan acting.
tucker carlson
Sorry.
unidentified
Throughout history, people have looked at that as something that confers power.
That's what child sacrifices.
Exactly.
You know?
And every civilization that sacrifices children winds up falling very rapidly after that.
What are your thoughts of this?
I think it's absolutely true.
And I've thought this many times.
Ever since I started doing this research, I had the exact same question of what is really going on here.
ian carroll
Like, wow, like as a young person, you kind of learned that these people are out there somewhere, but you never really like have to confront it and think about it.
unidentified
Right.
And once I started doing research into Epstein and into the whole network of satanic ritual abuse and pedophilia and child trafficking, just more and more that same question kept coming up of like, what are they actually doing?
And he's so right that it is evil.
Like it's, it's actual evil.
It's the destruction of innocence.
And there's a, there's an element of it too that is why, like, for example, why are they buying, so to speak, this, like, American underage girls?
As opposed to you could get infinite, like, cheaper, like, I hate, it sounds so crass and discussing Ukraine or Russia underage girls that are disposable for lack of a better term, because no one even knows they're missing, right?
But Jeffrey Epstein's operation was specifically targeting girls off the streets in Palm Beach, Florida.
And there's a part of that is that these people have so much power and so much influence that not only are they so depraved that they want to destroy innocence, that they want to destroy the most holy thing on the, but they want, they, they also want to do that to the ones that can't be bought, the one that is the most unattainable, the one that is the most protective.
They want it because it's not for sale.
Exactly.
They want it because it's not for sale.
Wow.
Well, and the thing is, you eradicate innocence, then you eradicate hope.
If you eradicate hope, you eradicate faith.
And if you eradicate faith, then you can become God to a hopeless civilization.
And that's what we're seeing from the technocrats.
ian carroll
Exactly.
unidentified
And a lot of people throw the word satanic around.
And I think that a lot of times people that don't think in godly and satanic ways mishear that phrase.
Tucker is not saying that it is literally the devil with a pitchfork.
Yeah, he's not saying that it's literally that they are worshiping Satan because they do this thing.
ian carroll
He's saying that it is indistinguishable in what it represents.
unidentified
100% evil and adversarial to all that is good.
ian carroll
Yeah, that destroying innocence like that for the pleasure of destroying innocence is the embodiment of everything that evil could be in this world.
chase geiser
Well, and depopulation, I think, is the embodiment of Satanism.
I mean, if God's first act to become God was to create, then anything that seeks to destroy creation is literally the Antichrist or literally anti-God, literally Satan.
unidentified
And that's what we're faced with right now, folks.
And like I said, regardless of whether you believe it literally or not, it's still Capital T-True.
We're in the middle of an information war.
It's reaching a climax.
It's getting more intense.
chase geiser
We've had major victories over the last few years with people waking up, but we are faced with unprecedented challenges, obstacles, and evil.
It is not given up.
We have to defeat this enemy entirely.
And the only way that we can do that is by following people like Ian Carroll, supporting their work on X, wherever they are, on YouTube, wherever they are, following it for Wars, sharing the broadcasts and the transmissions, and taking advantage of the incredible sales at the AlexJonesStore.com right now, store-wide, 25% off every single product that we offer this weekend only.
unidentified
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chase geiser
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unidentified
You were just telling me that you had a brain disease.
And you, what did you do to fix it?
I found this guy as a functional medicine guy, and he got me on methylene blue.
chase hughes
And that instantly stopped everything.
unidentified
I take it.
Okay.
Yeah.
I take it every day as well.
And RFK Jr. told me about it.
Yeah, man, it's fantastic.
And so this guy's injecting in 1890, injects these rats with it and then does an autopsy on these things.
And their brain, the brainstem, every single nerve is blue.
So he discovered this methylene blue has an affinity for neuronal tissue.
So he says, well, it's sucking into neurons and working in the body.
chase hughes
So we started putting it in humans.
unidentified
And we found out it's an MAOI, which helps with depression and anxiety and all kinds of life stress and stuff.
chase hughes
It is so incredible that it acts as an electron donor to mitochondria, especially your neuronal mitochondria.
unidentified
So it helps you produce more ATP and it helps you get rid of this stuff called reactive oxygen species.
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