Freedomain Radio - Stefan Molyneux - Can You Get Into Heaven by Doing Nothing?
Aired: 2025-09-25
Duration: 04:05


=== Faith vs. Works (04:04) ===

[00:00:01]  Can you get into heaven by doing nothing?
[00:00:05]  Yes.
[00:00:06]  Christ died for the ungodly.
[00:00:08]  With his stripes were healed.
[00:00:09]  It is finished.
[00:00:11]  Okay.
[00:00:11]  So a non-believer, a murderer, a sinner, a fornicator can get into heaven by doing nothing.
[00:00:21]  No repentance, no worship, no church going, no prayer, no conciliation with God, no nothing.
[00:00:27]  He can just go do his evil stuff and he just sails like a soap bubble.
[00:00:31]  He just sails up through the atmosphere into heaven when he dies.
[00:00:34]  You have to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ.
[00:00:37]  Fantastic.
[00:00:37]  Okay.
[00:00:38]  So you have to earn.
[00:00:40]  No.
[00:00:40]  Forgive me.
[00:00:41]  Faith is the opposite of doing.
[00:00:42]  This is one thing I struggle with for years.
[00:00:44]  Faith is, okay, so the gospel is Christ died for our sins.
[00:00:47]  What does that mean?
[00:00:48]  Your sins are forgiven.
[00:00:49]  Go in peace.
[00:00:50]  So if Christ died for my sins, I'm forgiven.
[00:00:53]  And so I have to literally call God a liar to say that Christ did not die for my sins.
[00:00:58]  Okay, so if Christ died for everyone's sins and then everyone is forgiven, you don't need to do anything to get to heaven.
[00:01:03]  He didn't die for everybody.
[00:01:05]  He only died for the elect.
[00:01:08]  Okay, so you have to believe in Jesus to get to heaven.
[00:01:11]  And you also, you can't say, I believe in Jesus and then break all the commandments, right?
[00:01:15]  You can't go around murdering people saying, I believe in Jesus and go to heaven, right?
[00:01:19]  Justification and sanctification are separate.
[00:01:21]  You're trying to mix the two.
[00:01:22]  You can't do that when you're talking about justification.
[00:01:25]  Don't tell me what I can and can't do.
[00:01:26]  That's kind of rude.
[00:01:27]  You can make a case for something, but don't give me orders.
[00:01:30]  I'm not trying to be rude, but.
[00:01:32]  No, you are.
[00:01:32]  You're telling me what I can and can't talk about.
[00:01:34]  I mean, you can make a difference.
[00:01:36]  I mean, no, you can talk about Bob Saint theologically speaking.
[00:01:39]  You can't do that.
[00:01:41]  Can a murderer who claims to believe in Jesus go to heaven?
[00:01:48]  Okay.
[00:01:49]  Homosexual can go to heaven if he believes in Jesus.
[00:01:53]  Look, we have this sin in us.
[00:01:55]  So you can be a mass murderer.
[00:01:58]  You can be a pedophile.
[00:02:00]  And if you say you believe in Jesus, you're good.
[00:02:03]  I don't care about what the person says.
[00:02:05]  Is the person believing in Jesus?
[00:02:07]  So do they come to Christ?
[00:02:08]  Do they put their hand on the sacrifice by faith appropriate that as theirs?
[00:02:12]  If they do to say that they're saying, so if you believe in Jesus, then clearly you believe in Jesus' teachings, right?
[00:02:20]  Yes, part of faith is knowledge, and then the second part of faith is a sense, and the third part is trust.
[00:02:25]  Well, and there has to be actions as well, right?
[00:02:27]  No, no.
[00:02:29]  Well, no, because if you have a believe in a math teacher who says that two and two make four, if I believe in a math teacher who says that two and two make four, if I go around saying two and two make five, am I following the teachings of that math teacher?
[00:02:54]  No, yeah, yeah, I guess you're calling a math teacher a liar.
[00:02:57]  Well, I can't say I believe in this math teacher.
[00:03:00]  I accept that the math teacher is perfect and divine and wonderful and always true.
[00:03:06]  And this math teacher says that two and two make four, but I go around saying that two and two make five.
[00:03:10]  Would that not be an indication that I do not actually believe in what the math teacher says?
[00:03:14]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:03:16]  Okay.
[00:03:16]  So if you believe in Jesus, you have to follow what Jesus says in your actions.
[00:03:24]  No, no, just as if you believe in the math teacher who says two and two make four, you have to say that two and two make four.
[00:03:30]  If you believe in Jesus, you will follow him.
[00:03:33]  It's not, we don't follow him because we are trying to avoid hell.
[00:03:36]  We follow him because that's naturally what we're going to do.
[00:03:39]  Fantastic.
[00:03:39]  Okay.
[00:03:40]  So the way that you know if somebody truly believes in Jesus is they're following his teachings, right?
[00:03:45]  Yeah, we judge people by their actions.
[00:03:47]  God judges them by their heart, but we can only see the actions.
[00:03:50]  Okay, okay.
[00:03:51]  So to believe in Jesus means that you act in a manner consistent with Jesus' teachings, right?
[00:03:59]  No, so that's where you're met.
[00:04:00]  No, no, we just went through this.
[00:04:02]  You can't do that.
[00:04:02]  No, we say we judge people by their actions and by their truths, shall you know them?