Sept. 8, 2025 - Freedomain Radio - Stefan Molyneux
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Why Friendships Tend to Fade...
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Yes, so uh sorry, good morning, everybody, hope you're doing well.
And uh I have a big topic for everyone today, and if you want to call in and help me sort of hash through it, or whatever else is on your mind, I'm of course thrilled, overjoyed, happy, and humbly grateful to hear your thoughts.
And of course, this is uh for donors.
And uh we're gonna go in a minute or two to donor only.
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All right, so let's see here.
If you have questions, comments, issues, challenges, problems, you know what?
I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what, let's do it.
Let's do it this way.
I'm gonna ask the question, and then, you know, if you all are interested, you can and I'll I'll keep the I'll keep it going, streaming to everyone.
If you're interested, we can that topic, we can do whatever topic you like.
So I was just thinking, you know, uh, I'm I'm fifty-nine in a couple weeks.
And it's a funny thing when you get older, and I'm sort of I wrote about this in my new book.
Oh, and the the first chapter is out for uh listeners if you want, uh for donors at freedom.locals.com or free domain, sorry, or subscribestro.com slash free domain.
But when you get older, it's like you kind of come full circle and your early life re-emerges.
And and maybe it's got something to do with retirement, and maybe it's got something not that I'm gonna retire, but you know, sort of that age.
Or maybe it's got something to do with the fact that you kind of want to circle back and look at your youth and childhood and sort of the big choices you've made in your life, because I mean, most of my big choices are pretty deep in the rear view.
Like most of the big things that I'm going to decide to do, I have already decided to do, or and have already done, or not done, right?
It's uh probably a little bit too late to become the lead ballet dancer for the Bolshevik, probably a little bit late to go and be a K-pop star, uh probably a little bit too late.
Well, I mean, it's probably too late if I wanted to get back into acting or you know, that kind of stuff.
It's too late for me to become a great pianist, it's too late for me to uh uh learn mime in the correct and productive way.
So most of my big decisions are behind me.
I mean, who I married is almost a quarter century in the past, and it's going to be for the next hopefully 30 years to go.
And 30, yeah, it could could happen.
Yeah, it could happen.
59 to 89.
Yeah, it could happen.
But you know, the number of children I'm gonna have is in the rear view my career, you know, it's too late to go become a doctor or a lawyer or an accountant or or something like that.
So when your decisions are kind of deep in the rear view, you know, it's sort of important to evaluate what those decisions were.
You know, it's it's too late.
I think it's too late to have any particular relationship with my family of origin.
And it's too late.
I mean, realistically, it's kind of too late to go and get a PhD.
And it would be too much time away from my wife, you know.
And also as you get older, you know, I got the new Doom game, and I used to enjoy the Doom games.
I started playing it for a minute or two.
And it was okay.
I thought it was a bit easy.
Uh it was a little bit easy.
But it's like, you know, you that there's not this infinite span of time ahead when you get older, right?
It it's limited, right?
Because when you're young, you've I mean, I didn't really think that much of time when I was younger, of course, because it just like there's this infinite cavalcade of days, minutes, minutes, hours, months, and years, even decades, it feels like ahead of you.
But when you're significantly closer to the end than the beginning.
Something in my mind, and I think this is true of a lot of people, just kind of kicks in and says, let's evaluate.
Right?
Let's have a post-mortem.
We used to call them in the business world.
When we'd finish A project, we'd go over the project, what went well, what went badly.
And there's a postmortem.
And one of the things that I've been thinking about, and I'd love to get your guys' thoughts on this, is the instability or lack of bonding in relationships.
You ever have this?
This, you know, the way that I was raised, and this was like really deep, really taboo, but the way that I was raised was something like, you know, blood is thicker than water.
You know, friendship through thick and thin.
You know, people have got your back.
People really, really care.
And they're really, really loyal.
And that sort of loyalty, that caring, that bonding was very I don't know if it was an older kind of thing.
Yeah, I don't know if it's an older kind of thing.
I don't even know if it's um promoted or or talked about these days among the younger people, but relationships were everything.
Now, maybe that's because I grew up in, you know, mostly a monoethic, monoethnic monoculture, where, you know, you could get those kinds of social bonds on a regular basis, although they just kind of grew around you.
But I would say, you know, it's funny.
I was trying to run through the relationships that were the longest that ended without even a bang or a whimper.
Like I had friendships from the age of, say, 13 to early 30s.
Decades.
Uh these uh people that I sometimes worked with, um, sometimes even lived with.
And they just kind of evaporated with without anything really, no big conflict.
I think one person just didn't return another call, and then just time went on.
And it's wild, man.
So people who were sort of wound into the very fabric of your life, or sorry, I shouldn't say about you, because it's about me.
I don't want to make it about me, but I don't want to put it in your shoes.
So people who were wound into the very fabric of my life that I went through significant, you know, trials, tribulations with uh people I um hiked with, vacationed with, even people that I worked in the frozen hinterlands of the up north in my goal panning and prospecting days, all of the I mean, they just it wasn't even like the it wasn't even like a chain that snapped or a thread that broke.
It was just there, not there.
There, not there.
Now, I have pursued people, of course, over the course of my life, if I didn't want a relationship to end, whether it's a friendship or whatever, even a romantic relationship.
I've sort of pursued people, and I'll just be straight up and say I can't remember a time.
I can't remember a time where people, if there's this sort of distance has sort of just appeared, uh, or the relationship has just kind of despawned in a way, gone to the backrooms.
I can't remember a time when people chased me, like you know, the sort of eponymous scenes in movies and TV shows where the girls leaving uh on a plane and the guy's like barreling his way through security.
But I love you, you know, this kind of stuff, right?
And I don't know if it's something in the history on the water or in the modernity, or maybe in human nature or something like that, but the threads, you know, the ties that bind, the ties that the threads just seem to be really thin, loose, and threadbare.
That the time now, I could say, of course, I could say, well, Steph, you know, you had this very tough childhood, and you were you moved around from place to place, and uh, you know, then when you were a student, you moved 18 times in five years, or you know, you're just constantly on the move, and you were you're born in Ireland, grew up in England, went to Africa, then to Canada, like you didn't move from place to place, you went to three different universities, like you're just an in motion kind of guy.
And maybe that combination of not pair bonding with your family of origin and then moving around all the time, that you're just kind of this gypsy soul that doesn't put down roots, and you know, wherever I lay my hat, that's my home, and early morning yesterday, I was up before the dawn.
Really have enjoyed my stay, but I must be moving on.
I mean it's I thought of that.
However, however, I mean, the big the big saving grace regarding that uh is uh my marriage.
And I've been friends with uh a great fellow that I work with.
Uh we've been friends for sixteen, seventeen years, and that's going strong.
And my wife and I, of course, have uh been married um twenty three years.
And I mean, honestly, it's I hate to I mean I it's I I sort of hate to say it, but but but I want to say it because it's true.
Like just when you think it's great, it gets better.
And so the the the bond, I know that I'm capable of the bond because I have it with my uh I have it with my wife, I have it with my daughter.
And it's sort of unquestioned and foundational and all that kind of stuff.
So I can do it.
But it's kind of true, like I can do it.
And it's not hard, in fact, it's great.
But I don't know how many people can do it.
And I honestly, I can think of and sort of even even in the history of this show, there have been people that have been friends, we've met up, and and they just I don't I don't generally have much conflict with people.
I mean, I have a little disagreement here and there.
It's usually pretty easy to work out.
I don't really know some people thrive on conflict and so on.
I don't even thrive on conflict uh in the social media thing.
I just I just don't want to shut up because there are bullies in the world.
I just that's I just don't want to censor because self-censor because there are bullies in the world.
That's kind of the job.
You can't call yourself a philosopher if you self-censor it to that degree.
So, like even even over the course of what I've been doing here for like 20 years, I mean, there have been phases, and James, I'm sure will remember some of these, you know, and I won't go through the names, but these are people that um we met up, we we uh uh were close, we had lots of conversations and so on.
And then they just kinda vanish.
And it's not like there's some big conflict.
And and so people come in, there's sort of a a sort of bond, it feels like a bond, and then they're not even an exit.
It's almost like they're um it's almost like, you know, they they always have this thing in movies where, you know, in a sixth sense kind of thing where, you know, or the um fine club kind of thing where it was all a dream that wasn't a real person.
You know, it's almost like that.
Like there's a simulation that puts people in your lives, and then they just I don't even know how to put it.
It's not like an exit, because an exit is when someone leaves.
And they don't leave, they don't storm out, there's not conflict, they just stop.
They just stop.
It just stops.
I'm not putting all the blame on other people.
I'm not even sure if there is anything to blame.
But it's wild, man.
I mean, if it wasn't for my marriage, I would think basically that people are just ghosts drifting around like ping pong balls that pass through each other without rhyme or reason, connect and disconnect without rhyme or reason, and that we're all just rowny in motion atoms in a social space, colliding and bouncing and drifting, and so I mean I know that I'm capable of and love this sort of hair bonding.
I mean, I know I've had friends for close to 20 years.
But people come and people go.
And uh maybe that's I I know this sort of bowling alone hypothesis, Daniel Putnam, I think his name was, who wrote many years about about, you know, maybe it's a multiculturalism or diversity is shredding social bonds or whatever, but Yeah, it's uh it's a funny phenomenon that people come and people go.
And I mean, as you guys know, I'm not in touch with anyone free free domain.
And they just go.
And again, I'm not I I will chase some people sometimes, but not too much or too long, because you know, if people don't want to, for whatever reason.
But again, it's it's not like they have any problem with me, or I I with them, really.
It just I don't know if there's a word for it.
I'm sure there is in German, some polysyllabic mouth muncher.
But yeah, it's just it's just a funny phenomenon how people come and people go.
And as you get older, it's I mean, these kinds of patterns really show up in your mind, or at least they do in mine.
I'm sure they do in people as a whole.
But that's always been pretty self-sufficient.
Um, you know, if I were faced with, as I have sometimes I'm faced with like a week on my own.
Uh maybe I can't go anywhere for whatever reason.
And uh it's great.
I mean, I can write, I can think, I can read, I can exercise, I uh I would say enjoy my own company because that's kind of weird.
Like I'm a party or something like that, but I'm very self-sufficient that way.
And I think that self-sufficiency has something to do with the root of the pair of bonding.
But yeah, it's funny, because there was a guy, let's just call him Bob.
There was a guy named Bob, who I was friends with in my late twenties, very early 30s.
And uh Bob even met my to be wife back in the day.
And Bob had a bad habit.
Bad habit.
I would say I I could you I could argue a very bad habit of uh when we were in social circles.
Uh Bob would always make these jokes that uh were at my expense, like some silly thing or some foolish thing that I'd done.
And I said, you know, that's that's kind of annoying.
Like I'm of course I have a goofy side and I have a side that makes mistakes and so on, but I'm a ridiculously competent guy as a whole.
I mean, I've done um, you know, manual labor, I've started businesses, I've done computer coding, I've written novels, plays, been an actor, uh, done the podcasting thing, I'm a really good public speaker, uh, and I'm really good on my feet, I'm a good debater, and I'm uh good at history, I'm good at philosophy.
Like I'm a uh as a whole, I mean, there's things, of course, that I'm not good at, but uh on the whole, I'm a ridiculously competent person, and I say that with all due humility, because it's a lot of responsibility to be good at stuff.
But I'm a ridiculously competent person, and yeah, so just sort of being made fun of for being bad at things is just you know, it doesn't uh it doesn't sit well.
It's good, you know, it's good to be able to laugh at yourself, but not all the time, because life can be, you know, serious and and important as well.
So I have a let me just see if there's anybody who wants to jump in and jawbone on this.
Uh let me just see what y'all are saying about this.
Bum boom.
Oh, well, let's see.
Let's see, let's see.
Doom sorry, I know this is making CC I've touched the screen that's on.
Uh you do need a um desktop or tablet required, does not work on phones to join in for the call.
Somebody says, my mortality really started to sink in for me when I turned 30 earlier this year.
Yeah, there was a novel.
Uh it was not an autobiographical novel for some Russian thinker that I read many years ago, and on the back it said, you know, that the childhood window opened up, and he saw everything clearly.
I think Boomers kills the bond with their children by neglecting them.
Yeah, I think that's right.
I think that's right.
True datchkey kids.
Yeah, I was a latchkey kid for sure.
For sure.
Uh I'm sorry, what was the question again?
I think I know what you're talking about, Steph.
I've experienced similar things, all right.
This is the case for most non-immediate family, the less close, the more tenuous.
The la later generations grew up with the internet and so see relationships as more superfluous, boring slash difficult equals delete.
Somebody says, You're a Jew.
Jews resent age and aging, and people resent Jews.
I mean, I nothing that you say is true, but I appreciate your contract.
I appreciate your typing.
All right.
Um They just sort of fade away, despawn.
Well, but but fade away, and I'm I'm not trying to tell you your experience, of course, but but fade away is like you see less and less.
What I'm talking about is you're you're close and nothing in particular happens, but you just stop communicating.
You just stop talking.
How was friendship before the internet?
Was it like this?
Um not really, I don't think so.
You've had a lot of success that can lead to insecurity and resentment from some friends.
Yeah, for sure.
Richard says, From your account here, it seems like we have a somewhat similar experiential history.
Yeah, FDR URL.com slash live call to join in.
Um I saw a video, says Rich, about historical male friendships.
They seemed to be much closer.
On the long letters they used to send each other more brotherly than modern day families, yeah.
Somebody says, I was friends with a guy in high school.
We hung out several times a week for years, and after graduation he just disappeared.
A few months ago he contacted me after ten years, telling me you know he just got out of rehab.
He's since disappeared again, never replied to my messages.
Very strange.
He despawned.
Well, I mean, he went into an addict.
James says I was also Latchkeef age seven or eight, yeah.
Yeah.
I think a lot of people are non-confrontational, says someone, so they are more likely to disappear than confront you about something you did or said to offend them.
Modern friendship equals TLGR.
Pretty funny.
Right, I see what you mean, says James, yeah, it does just stop, not just fade away, like it diminishes.
Just it's a f yeah.
Diminishing, I could sort of understand.
So listen, I'm I'm happy to talk about this or or any other subject.
Uh somebody says, on the other hand, if I'm the one who has to keep reaching out at some point, I'll stop carrying the friendship.
Yeah, isn't that the thing?
Right?
Isn't that the thing?
That I think I think men, maybe women have this too, this sort of caution or maybe this fear, which is if I stop putting energy into the relationship, does it still work?
If I stop contacting, if I stop planning, if I stop initiating, will the friendship still exist?
Will the relationship still exist?
That's the me two plus.
Like I have to be me plus plus plus in order to just equal uh someone else or something else.
That is uh I think that's a uh for for people who are energetic and and focused and maybe good conversationalists and experience these bonds.
There is always that question.
It's like, well, if I stop putting energy and effort in.
Uh say entrepreneurs experience the same thing, which is if I stop working eighty hours a week, is my business even sustainable?
And if I stop putting all of this extra effort into friendships, relationships, love relationships, whatever.
Well, if I stop putting all this crazy extra effort in, what happens?
Uh, because it's kind of exhausting, right?
It's kind of exhausting to keep pouring a lot of energy in.
So let's see here.
Someone says, Gene Alpha is asking if Jen X was allowed to go outside unsupervised until the lights came on.
Let is the wrong term.
And parents demand that we get out of the house and stay away.
Spent most of the time alone, even at home.
My parents didn't want to know what I thought, other than I knew how to obey and not question why, yeah.
Somebody says, I had the same thoughts about you.
As a donor, I felt a little neglected while you got yourself covered in excrement on X. That's fair.
That's why we're doing these jazz club chats.
Somebody says, Me and my wife have struggled with conflict.
We made a commitment to resolve it, and even called in while she was pregnant.
I don't have another relationship in my life I can say similar about that me or the other have gone to similar lengths to resolve conflict.
Maybe that's a flaw on my end.
Uh Somebody says, I had an incident with a friend after high school.
I called him the next day to put things in perspective, and I thought, continue on as we were.
He wasn't having it.
Years later I ran in to him in the mall, chased him down to talk again.
Oh, and what happened?
Somebody says, My generation would cry if the parents forced them out of the house too.
Much too much addiction to movies and video games.
Yeah.
He was just down with the friendship, wants nothing to do with me or other friends.
I mean, this that's a that's a big COVID thing too, right?
Is you know, one of the chilling things to see in life is do friends prefer you or propaganda?
That's that's a tough question to ask, right?
The TV is saying this.
You're saying question this.
Who do you choose?
I mean, we know that a significant majority of people will just choose the propaganda.
Over the f over the brothers, parent kids, just choose the propaganda.
And they'll choose a lot of life, parenthood, love, they just choose the propaganda.
And of course, propaganda is a flex of power, and most people who resisted power, political power, hierarchical power, coercive power, most people who resisted that over the course of human history, uh got killed or ostracized.
So there is, of course, you know, well, don't make me choose between you and propaganda, because well, obvious reasons, right?
I wonder how many relationships have been destroyed since COVID.
Yeah.
Yeah.
During since Yeah.
I mean, as I've said, like human beings, we can only meet and connect in reality.
Shared delusions.
You know, it's like saying, Well, I have a relationship with someone I dream about at night, but don't know in the real in real life.
Like you don't have a relationship.
There's only self and other, and you can only meet in reality, in in truth in objectivity.
That's the only place that you can meet.
Um getting married in Dungeons and Dragons will not give you a child.
So propaganda substitutes lies for truth, conformity for integrity.
And separates people enormously.
And I think the amount of propaganda, uh generally through the media and government schools and so on, the amount of propaganda inflicted on people really isolates us.
And isolation is what you need if you want to expand your political power, right?
People need to be isolated and separated, right?
Someone says, as an entrepreneur, I'm certain you know the difference between working in the business versus on the business.
If you're doing the employees' work, who is doing the boss's work while you are not?
Oh, who's doing the boss's work while you are not?
Good way to get familiar with bankruptcy, in my opinion.
Somebody says, I my family did this simply dissolved.
Yeah.
And and it's it's disorienting, right?
Because you have all this history, you have all these ties, you have all these memories, and then it just like it never was.
Like it never was.
And then it's like, well, but but it was.
It was not what, right?
Uh somebody says, depends on the scale.
Oh, um, somebody says, hmm.
Recently had a bit of recent experience with this.
I had a friend close to your age actually, who I actually have a tremendous amount of a tremendous amount of, who I actually have a tremendous amount of.
I don't know what that means, and have had a number of great conversations with.
I sort of ghosted him because I was intimidated to approach the subject.
What subject?
I don't know.
We got back to talking again, and he did ask me if he'd done anything to offend or upset me, and I opened up about it, and we're back on talking again.
It's kind of tough, but I think millennials are more conflict diverse.
Yeah.
Uh uh people would rather, you know, there's this old joke, you're like, men would rather join a paramilitary force than go to therapy.
Like what would people rather do than just have honest conversations about things that troubled them with people.
Because conflict and intimacy are often perceived to be opposites.
You know, if you're having conflict, that means you're not close.
It's like, no, no, no.
There's almost nothing closer than reasoned conflict.
I don't mean like you're screaming at each other or anything, although I guess you're close but trapped in a descending bath escape.
But when you're actually having a conversation, you're saying this bothered me about something you did, and you know, real-time relationship style.
I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying I was bothered.
Um that's as close as you can get.
And if you can't have those conversations, I don't know what the relationship is really.
Hmm.
Okay.
Thank you.
Yeah, conflict diverse is no bond.
Yeah, for sure.
Somebody says, I think it's important to act on the thoughts of growing apart.
If someone crosses your mind, reach out to them and tell them that.
Okay, I'll get to that in a sec.
Somebody says, I had a dream last night of a guy going to bat for me in a chat group after I was banned.
I think the disappearing friends don't see how associating with you will increase the gene meme reproduction.
Yeah, maybe.
Yeah.
Well, and of course, I had this bond.
I thought I had this bond.
You know, the uh you wouldn't know this sort of back in the day.
James, James is really the only surviving witness in the social orbit of the sort of early days of FDR.
We were we were pretty close.
You know, some private chats and uh meetups and uh and so on.
And uh then I I certainly to some degree with the media attacks, although the media attacks were in a many ways more on my marriage than anything else.
But there was uh a real scattering with this kind of stuff.
And again, just despawn.
And then of course, when I was deplatformed, you know, people that I had tons of conversations with, people that I'd even done call-in shows with and so on.
And reasonably reasonably close, and the audience as a whole, like as you'd been 95, 97%.
I I'd and the reason I go by these numbers, and they're not perfect numbers, because who knows, right?
But um the re so I used to get at least 100K views on YouTube, and then when I moved to BitChute, I got like 3K.
Now, there were a couple of other platforms, but not too substantial.
That was my biggest for a while.
So I could say, you know, 90, 95, 97%, sort of depends on on how you count it.
But and the barrier is ridiculously low, right?
The barrier to, I mean, honestly, it takes about 30 seconds to sign up on BitChute or Odyssey or Rumble or something.
Rumble wasn't around back then, I don't think.
But there was just uh nothing.
And so even those bonds, you know, um very fragile.
And say what you like about other cultures, you know, plus or minus, but they really do.
Um, thank you.
I appreciate that.
Oh, free domain.com slash donate, you can tip on the show as well.
I appreciate that.
But um having those bars be very fragile is very beneficial, right?
Somebody says, all my high school friends are kept through college.
I haven't spoken to them for over 12 years now, mainly because they never continue to level up.
Career, wife, kids.
We no longer had anything in common.
My closest friend talked about the New York Jets while I'm talking about wife, kids, career, business, etc.
That I think is a really good point.
That's a really good point.
What's that meme about therapy?
They have replaced the Catholic confessional and a priest with a liberal woman who voted For Joe Biden.
Yeah, I see that.
I really am just about the only survivor from the early days.
Yeah, that's right, James.
That's right.
Good on you for being in for the long run.
Loyalty is something I really know and value myself.
Yeah.
Isolation of the target is also moved by predatory personalities.
Oh, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Isolate, polarize uh attack, right?
Uh, you have to get the the you have to get the prey away from the herd in order to take it down, and that's really what deplatforming is is all about.
Richard says, hi, Steph finally got my rumble login sorted, catching up now.
Excellent.
Somebody says, yeah, me and my wife figured out that a lot of our conflict was founded in our unresolved issues with our family of origin.
Once I confronted mine, it was almost like they vanished, didn't ever exist.
Occasionally I would see my dad, but he just acts like I don't exist.
Ooh, sorry about that.
My wife's parents will call her once every six months, and between those times, it's like a void.
Sad, but we're now seeking to move away for our son's benefit.
I'm sorry about that.
So it's very sad.
Uh minds gap, bit shoot, library, odyssey, lots of those sites are probably zombie sites.
Uh library, I think, got hacked down by uh regulations.
Uh outside the earlier comment, I think it's more of people's object permanence and inability to move, dodge, be nimble in any capacity.
Hmm.
Somebody says, I used to watch you in the early days.
Unfortunately, I got distracted by other things and completely forgot about you.
Continuing to watch would have saved me a lot of mistakes.
Well, I think so.
I think so.
Um I'm gonna I'm just gonna because I I have some answers.
You know, whether they are the answers or not, I couldn't tell you, but I'm gonna switch to donors only if you want to join uh on locals.
Um fdrurl.com slash locals, fdrurl.com slash locals, and we will keep that chugging along.
And you can join us there, because I do have I have answers, and I'd love to get your thoughts about that.
I have some answers.
Whether the answers are true or valid, I just don't know.
All right.
Oh, yeah, lots of good comments here, so we'll get to those.
But I don't want to start reading a comment.
We're about to go private in like eight, seven, six.
All right, so let's just wait to go over to donor only.
We are now donor only.
So um somebody says, I think growing up with YouTube and bonding with internet personas just passively, just by passively watching their videos, taught me that relationships can exist without any effort from my ed.
You can get some of the joy of human connection without building any social muscles by watching YouTubers and just lurking on the internet.
It's dangerously easy to choose that over legitimate friendships, especially since I bonded heavily with my computer and the internet.
Well, it's the kind of thing, like it's a difference between professional singers and like amateur karaoke, right?
And so the other thing too is that also it's like looking at just beautiful, beautiful people all the time, and then finding the average person.
Uh ugly, um, homely, uh unpleasant.
And this is super stimuli, right?
So if you are looking at someone like me, uh, or Scott Adams or Mike Sonovich, or you know, lost lots of different people on the left and the right, they're professional, like we're professional communicators, so that's our job.
We've got very good social instincts, great language skills, we know how to talk to people, we know how to, I mean, I've done tons of interviews, endless call-in shows and so on, right?
So we are professional communicators, and the degree of communication that we're capable of is not matched, most likely, by the average person in your social circle.
Maybe, maybe, but unlikely.
And so if you sort of listen to my call-in shows, for instance, and I mean, I think they're useful, obviously helpful and good, but if you listen to my call-in shows, and then you say, I need to have conversations like that, you kind of gotta build your way up to that kind of stuff.
I didn't have conversations like that when I was younger, at least not with that level of productivity.
So if you are constantly exposing yourself to, you know, sort of top tier, top point one percent professional communicators, and then you try and have conversations with the average of axed underhead in your environment, or even before average status uh propaganda zombie, it's gonna be tough to replicate.
Maybe that makes sense.
It's gonna be very tough to replicate.
Schools forcing kids together who otherwise wouldn't associate doesn't help, especially combined with parents who strictly limit socializing in free time.
I spent so much time with a horrible friend group in great middle school that I wasn't sure how to handle being around relatively better people after moving to high school.
I spent three years going between being argumentative and being closed off.
Even after opening up a bit in the past year.
In the last year, I still had no experience socializing out of class.
Thank you, Steph, for the gift to hear you talk.
I appreciate that.
Um when you were deplatformed by how much did donations reduce compared to viewers, are loyalists more generous?
Um so it wasn't quite a ninety-seven percent drop in donations, that would have been unsurvival.
Uh definitely massive drops, but not quite nine, not as bad, right?
After you got kicked off the other platforms, you have a website, so it's easy to find your material.