Freedomain Radio - Stefan Molyneux - Cruel People on the Internet?!?
Aired: 2025-06-24
Duration: 05:53


=== Percentage Of Good Faith Correctors (03:22) ===

[00:00:00]  But let me ask you this.
[00:00:01]  Here's another audience participation question.
[00:00:04]  Let me ask you this: what percentage of people, let's just say online, what percentage of people online want to correct you in good faith?
[00:00:20]  In other words, hey, you know, you're making an error.
[00:00:23]  I want to help and here's a better argument or here's where I think you went astray or something like that.
[00:00:30]  What percentage of people online are correcting you in good faith?
[00:00:40]  And that is always an interesting question.
[00:00:47]  Less than 5%?
[00:00:48]  Is that what you're saying?
[00:00:49]  Less than 5%?
[00:00:50]  It's not as common as it should be.
[00:00:53]  It absolutely is not as common as it should be.
[00:00:57]  About 2% to 5%, I'm optimistic enough to say a whole 5%.
[00:01:01]  How does it feel to play stadiums again?
[00:01:03]  Feels the same as before?
[00:01:04]  No.
[00:01:05]  I remember Mick Jagger saying, you know, if you're playing a nightclub, it's very different from playing a stadium.
[00:01:09]  It's a whole different focus and energy.
[00:01:10]  So it's a little bit more.
[00:01:12]  Joe says 10%, 10% of people online are correcting you in good faith.
[00:01:18]  All right.
[00:01:19]  I appreciate that.
[00:01:19]  That's good to know.
[00:01:22]  I was going to say to the people on X, let me know if you can't post a message.
[00:01:27]  Kevin says, 20%.
[00:01:29]  Nice.
[00:01:30]  Nice.
[00:01:31]  3% of my real audience, 80% are strangers.
[00:01:38]  Oh, of my real audience, 80% are strangers, perhaps 2%.
[00:01:41]  Okay.
[00:01:42]  Okay.
[00:01:43]  So to me, it's always interesting to know whether or not people are correcting you in good faith.
[00:01:52]  If they're not correcting you in good faith, I mean, you can say they could have a good argument even if they're malicious.
[00:02:00]  I mean, that's true.
[00:02:02]  Technically, it's true.
[00:02:04]  But you could also jump out of a plane and land without injury some way, right?
[00:02:09]  But don't do it, right?
[00:02:10]  Technically, you can win the lottery, but don't play the lottery.
[00:02:14]  It's just a tax on mathematical ignorance.
[00:02:16]  So once I have established a lack of good faith, I'm out.
[00:02:30]  You can't heal people who manipulate in that kind of way.
[00:02:33]  You can't fix them and you're not going to get anything valuable out of them.
[00:02:36]  And maybe you feel like, oh, if I expose this person, then other people will see it, but that's not your job.
[00:02:44]  That's not your sort of service.
[00:02:46]  Other people are saying 2% to 5%, 10%.
[00:02:50]  Somebody says 25%, but I spend a lot of my time on technical message boards.
[00:02:53]  Yeah, that's fair.
[00:02:54]  Technical message boards for sure.
[00:02:56]  So on Reddit, none.
[00:02:59]  Yeah, that's probably quite true.
[00:03:00]  That's probably quite true.
[00:03:03]  Putting the commie red in Reddit.
[00:03:05]  So I posted a request for YouTube to restore my YouTube channel.
[00:03:17]  And somebody wrote, this dude helped to rip apart so many families and relationships.

=== Morality Without Faith (02:30) ===

[00:03:23]  Right?
[00:03:24]  And I said, spreading malicious rumors is a sin, my friend, because, you know, that is a malicious rumor and there's no evidence and it's just a me podcasting, me doing some videos, me writing some books has torn apart so many families and relationships.
[00:03:42]  I don't see how that would particularly follow, but there's no example, right?
[00:03:47]  So I said, spreading malicious rumors is a sin, my friend.
[00:03:50]  And he said, not sure why you would invoke fairy tale concepts.
[00:03:53]  So boom, right?
[00:03:54]  You know, you know, atheist, right?
[00:03:57]  You know, atheist.
[00:03:59]  And Fedora wearer.
[00:04:00]  And, well, actually, right?
[00:04:02]  I mean, you just, you just know.
[00:04:03]  And this is what I said on the stream the other day on the Twitter spaces.
[00:04:08]  Are you still an atheist?
[00:04:09]  I'm like, well, I can't stand atheists for the most part.
[00:04:12]  You know, present company accepted.
[00:04:13]  If you're an atheist, I mean, you're into philosophy.
[00:04:15]  But so he has no basis for his morality.
[00:04:27]  It's really, really important to understand.
[00:04:29]  Atheists outside of UPB, outside of universally preferable behavior, atheists have no, none, zero basis for their morality.
[00:04:38]  Zero.
[00:04:39]  It's all vague Darwinian in-group preference evolution.
[00:04:46]  Although they don't accept in-group preferences in certain groups.
[00:04:50]  It's all the greatest good for the greatest number.
[00:04:54]  That's just a mealy-mouthed avoidance of the actual question or the actual issue.
[00:04:58]  It's all, oh, generic being nice and being good and doing good for you.
[00:05:03]  It's no basis.
[00:05:05]  If you don't believe in God, your morality becomes rank superstition, which is much worse.
[00:05:12]  Much worse.
[00:05:16]  Religious people have a basis for their morality.
[00:05:20]  Moral, universal, objective, not rational.
[00:05:25]  It's religious, faith, right, not reason.
[00:05:29]  But the moment somebody says, I'm an atheist, again, UPB is not spread like wildfire.
[00:05:38]  I guess like wildfire in a heavy rain of anti-morality.
[00:05:42]  But it's really, so the moment somebody says sin is a fairy tale concept, he's saying there's no such thing as sin, which is obviously immoral behavior.