Freedomain Radio - Stefan Molyneux - What Is Going On Here??
Aired: 2025-06-12
Duration: 04:15


=== Foundational Conceptions Matter (02:14) ===

[00:00:00]  How do you know what exists or not?
[00:00:01]  Right?
[00:00:05]  Oh my gosh.
[00:00:07]  It depends on what you mean by valid.
[00:00:08]  So far, so good.
[00:00:09]  They are each valid and being called gods.
[00:00:10]  So there are multiple gods that exist.
[00:00:11]  It depends on what you mean by valid.
[00:00:13]  So far, so good.
[00:00:15]  So, so far, Jordan Peterson has absolutely no problem with this young woman saying, That everyone has different views on God.
[00:00:24]  Therefore, these different views of God all exist as gods in the external universe.
[00:00:29]  And it's like, what the living hell is going on here?
[00:00:33]  I feel like I'm being flushed down a intergalactic wolf lodge to a toilet into a madhouse.
[00:00:40]  I got to tell you, like, oh my God.
[00:00:44]  What do you say?
[00:00:46]  Oh my gosh, that's wild.
[00:00:49]  Depends on what you mean by valid, because I would say that some foundational conceptions don't play out when they're implemented.
[00:00:56]  Okay, some foundational conceptions.
[00:00:58]  Okay.
[00:01:03]  Some foundational conceptions don't play out when they're implemented.
[00:01:11]  What does it mean to implement a foundational conception?
[00:01:16]  Some foundation.
[00:01:18]  Oh, don't play out when they're implemented.
[00:01:21]  I'm sorry, don't be the laugh.
[00:01:22]  There's not an argument.
[00:01:23]  Because I would say that some foundational conceptions don't play out when they're implemented.
[00:01:28]  Does he mean communism?
[00:01:30]  What does he mean?
[00:01:31]  Some foundations don't play out when they're implemented.
[00:01:34]  Jordan Peterson is not going to debate me.
[00:01:36]  Come on, man.
[00:01:37]  So if you put the wrong thing at the foundation, you end up in hell, for example.
[00:01:42]  That's what happens in totalitarian states.
[00:01:44]  Oh, yeah.
[00:01:44]  So he's talking about communism, fascism.
[00:01:45]  Okay.
[00:01:46]  So they're not all equal.
[00:01:47]  Like, all foundational principles are not equal, even though they might be equally foundation.
[00:01:51]  Right.
[00:01:53]  Yes.
[00:01:54]  Everything you call a foundation to a house is not as good as everything else.
[00:01:58]  If you make water as the foundation of your house or fish, you're not going to do as well as if you use, say, concrete.
[00:02:04]  So, yes, I'm with him on that.
[00:02:06]  Right.
[00:02:06]  So what makes one kind of foundational tenet, like, better than another one?
[00:02:09]  That's an excellent question.

=== Aim For Comprehensibility (02:00) ===

[00:02:14]  Iterability?
[00:02:14]  I mean, please.
[00:02:16]  God almighty.
[00:02:17]  Can we give ideas that are useful to the people, right?
[00:02:22]  I mean, I've worked very hard over the last 40 years to try and develop and communicate complex arguments that are useful to your life.
[00:02:31]  Just complex arguments that are useful to your life.
[00:02:34]  The non-aggression principle, self-ownership, free will, peaceful parenting, you name it, right?
[00:02:38]  Definition of love.
[00:02:40]  I'm like, iterability.
[00:02:42]  Yeah.
[00:02:43]  Okay, so if y 'all can just take your foundational concepts and implement them in the world according to iterability, if you could just get that shit done, man.
[00:02:52]  It's like, if your ideas aren't important enough to make comprehensible to the general population, it's bullshit.
[00:03:02]  It's bullshit.
[00:03:03]  I don't...
[00:03:07]  I don't...
[00:03:13]  We're facing a massive moral crisis in the world while your foundational concepts need to be implemented according to their iterability.
[00:03:21]  Got that?
[00:03:22]  It's like, how does this help?
[00:03:24]  I aim for sort of a bottom IQ 90, right?
[00:03:27]  and I'm not calling you guys IQ90, of course, right?
[00:03:29]  But I aim in my communication, like if you're writing instructions for...
[00:03:37]  I think it's grade 6 now you have to write for.
[00:03:41]  So I sort of bottom out.
[00:03:43]  I aim to have comprehensible communications to people at about IQ 90 and above.
[00:03:53]  Below that, you're into the, what did you have?
[00:03:56]  If you didn't have breakfast yesterday morning, what would your experience be?
[00:04:00]  Well, I did have breakfast.
[00:04:02]  Like, below, right?
[00:04:03]  Where you could probably have any kind of abstract discussion.
[00:04:06]  But 90 plus is pretty good.
[00:04:09]  That's the majority of the world.
[00:04:11]  I don't know man