This is just something that comes out of a call this morning.
It was a private call, but I asked the caller if I could share this with the general population.
So here you are getting the benefit of a private call for free, but, you know, gives you a sense of how much value there is in the private calls.
So I'm not even going to do a hit-me-with-the-why thing here because, like, I just know.
I just know that you and I and everybody involved in these kinds of conversations, these kinds of fix-the-world conversations, get a little bit frustrated from time to time.
We try to fix the world.
We try to reason with people.
People don't listen, confidently sail off into disaster, and then come and bend our ears with their complaints.
Right?
They just come and bend our ears with their complaints.
So, the guy I was talking to, the fellow I was chatting with this morning, was angry.
Was angry.
With the world.
And with the world not listening.
And, of course, we've all been there.
We've been there.
Of course, I've been there in a global conversation with the world.
Other people have been there.
Perhaps you.
No, not you, but you.
Yeah, you.
That one right next to him.
So, you've probably been frustrated in your personal life with people who just refuse to listen to reason and don't engage in good faith.
You know, they're trolls.
They're just trying to win stupid little points.
You know, just endless arrays of nonsense as a whole.
So I did have a good conversation with this fellow, and he is willing to release not obviously any of the content of the conversation, but the form of the conversation to you.
And I wanted to make sure I got this out.
You ever have this thing?
It's like your dream, you know, like you have some really powerful dream.
And your brain is like, here's a really powerful dream.
And you wake up and you say, wow, that was great.
We should think about that.
Whoa.
Where the hell did that go?
Dream has evaporated.
And you're like, maybe I'll get a déjà vu at some point over the course of my day.
See, déjà vu over the course of my day.
It's very English-French hybrid.
But then it vanishes never to return.
And you're like, well, it was super important.
And your brain is like, it is super important.
And hey, squirrel!
And it's gone.
It's doomed.
It's gone.
It's done.
It's tragic.
This is probably the thing that I happen to meditate on the most.
This is what I think about of sort of any single particular subject.
This is what I think about the most.
And I'll give you an analogy and I think it'll hit hard.
I think it'll hit hard.
In a good way.
In a good way.
Okay.
So if you're...
And not just a nutritionist, but a fitness nutritionist.
Like a nutritionist will teach you how to eat, a fitness nutritionist will teach you how to exercise and how to eat in combination.
So if you are a nutritionist, let's say you live in, I don't know, let's roll the dice, Florida.
Right?
You are a fitness nutritionist.
You're lean, you're mean, you're healthy, you're good weight.
You stretch, you do your weights, you exercise, and you're in robust health.
And you like the sun.
You know the sun is good for you.
You like the sun.
So you go down to the beach.
Where should we go?
Where should we go?
Fort Lauderdale.
That's pretty nice.
Miami Beach.
Bit trashy.
Cocoa Beach.
There's lots of different beaches, but let's say we go to Cocoa Beach.
Echo Beach is far away in time, so we can't go to that.
We'll go to Cocoa Beach.
So we go to Cocoa Beach.
We're married.
We got three kids.
The kids are healthy.
Our wife is healthy and strong.
And we go and we care about nutrition and exercise.
We want the best for people.
Like the numbers, the stats, they just roll around in our brain like tumbleweeds of thunder.
That if you're obese as a child, you have a 70% chance of developing diabetes.
Joint pain, back pain, sexual dysfunction, heart attacks, clogged this, you name it.
Bad digestion, bad sweat, bad sleep, bad sex.
It's a wretched, flesh-encased...
buried in large prison to be significantly overweight not just a little bit of a but a lot of a Find some good parking.
It's a beautiful day.
We pack up our stuff.
Kids are squirming, itching to go and look for shells and run into the water and play with the dolphins.
And we pat down.
Enjoying the feel of sand between our toes, a beautiful blazing day, a couple of little puffy clouds like sheep wandering around in the blue.
We get down to the beach, and most of the people there are obese.
Oh, God.
And we see, when we look at this obese, I mean, we feel sympathy.
Bad childhood, bad diet, bad, you know, emotion managing, stress eating, whatever it is, right?
Eating your feelings.
Apparently you have a lot of feelings in the shape of cheesecake.
We go down to the beach and we look.
We see all this fat.
We see all this fat.
And it hurts.
And it's frustrating.
And it's upsetting.
And we want to run up and down the beach.
Grabbing people by their pudgy shoulders and saying, Stop eating!
Stop moving!
Stop eating!
Stop moving!
For God's sakes!
This is your life.
You get only one.
And you right now, you're not sick.
You have a thousand dreams.
But when you get sick, you have only one dream and one dream only, which is to stop being sick.
And you're choosing food over health, happiness, boners, quality sleep.
Your life is miserable.
Because your life is miserable, you eat more.
Because you eat more, your life gets more miserable.
And it doesn't stop until you get a coffin in the shape of a surprised face.
Oh!
Everywhere we look.
Like a dermatologist seeing nothing but sunburns everywhere we look.
It's not that it's offensive to our eyes.
It's that we can't relax, really, and enjoy the beach.
Could be the mall.
Probably not the gym.
Could be swimming pools.
God help you, if you're near Orlando, maybe you go to SeaWorld.
Maybe you go to Universal.
Maybe you go to Disney.
Maybe you go to, I don't know, even Wild Florida.
Gatorland, whatever.
Walk around Lake Eola.
Walk around Lake Eola.
Everywhere you go.
Buttons are hanging on like grim death.
Oh, we can't burst, but we must.
Zippers holding back Pudge like...
Thighs chafing together.
Weird back boobs.
Chins falling like a slow-motion waterfall to the chest.
No jaw.
You can't even see when people swallow.
Do they have Adam's apples?
Nobody knows.
Nobody knows.
And because of this, they have to actually have test seats at the roller coasters.
Can you even fit?
Can you even fit?
And we care.
We care.
It's our entire business, our entire job, to have people be healthy.
And everywhere we look, People are either fat or skinny fat.
They're either fat or flabby.
You know, the people, they don't have a lot of weight.
But they're like skeletons with skin.
And everybody look how many times...
How often do we roll around?
Now, it's our job.
You know, we're ripped, we're cut, we're whatever, right?
So we're not expecting people to be like that.
But how often, when we roll around the world, do we see people Rolling around the world.
How often, when we go around the world as fitness and nutrition experts, how often do we see people who are healthy?
You know, they're not overweight.
We can see by some muscle tone that they're doing something active, something physical.
Not just walking, although walking is fine, but something.
Something that gets their heart rate up, something that gets them to sweat, something that gets them to lunge, something that gets them to move, and to build some kind of muscle.
And they don't have to have abs, but it would be nice to see a vein somewhere throbbing.
Vain!
Somewhere!
These are the kind of people that give blood and people go in with pion jar drills and oil rigs trying to find a vein.
Trying to find a vein, yes, the quest is in vain.
So what do we do?
I don't know if you're an exercise person.
I don't know if you're a nutrition person.
I would consider myself mild to moderate in both reasonably healthy weight.
Reasonable amount of muscle, you know, far from a bodybuilder, but far from a walking skeleton, or an Oompa Loompa in strained jeans.
When we care about diet, nutrition, and exercise, and we walk through the valley of the shadow of death, With people often wider than they are tall, or people who have outgrown their muscles as if they stepped out of a skin suit because they're so flabby.
How do we enjoy our life when we care about health and we are surrounded by the chronically, imminently, eternally unwell?
When we know, let's say one of the reasons we became a diet and exercise person is because it's because our mother was a Thank you.
600 pound plus.
Dead by 45. Obesity.
Tragedy.
When your mama sits around the house, she really sits around the house.
Your mama so fast, she gets up on both sides of the bed, right?
And we saw this tragedy.
We saw this misery.
And of course, I say this with great sympathy, but you look deep within the fat folds of an obese person's eyes and you will see great misery.
Great misery.
Now, when we know, based upon our own personal experience, how miserable, overweight, not exercise, that kind of life, when we know from our personal experience how miserable that makes people, and how tragic a life it is,
how uncomfortable and difficult and early mortality a life that is, how do we walk around the world Looking at everybody playing a slow, fleshy game of Russian roulette with pink bullets to clog an artery every time they eat, every time they walk, every time they lever themselves up.
How?
Knowing how difficult, how painful it is having nursed her own mother through her morbid obesity, suffocating in her own skin, fleshy death.
Knowing exactly where it leads.
Also knowing how it hits us in our wallet.
Because people are going to consume massive amounts of healthcare resources.
You know, people who are overweight who say, well, we need socialized medicine because we want to help people who don't have access to healthcare.
I'm like, well, you're blocking access to healthcare because you're overweight, which means you're going to consume an excessive amount of healthcare over the course of your life relative to somebody who's of a healthy weight.
So you're choosing food over poor people's access to healthcare.
Of course, we can imagine that if people stopped being so obese, imagine what would happen to the price of healthcare.
Just imagine.
Imagine if people dealt with their emotional issues through psychology and philosophy rather than endless happy pills.
Imagine what would happen to healthcare costs if people stopped being fat or didn't become fat in the first place.
Imagine.
Just imagine.
It's pretty horrible to contemplate, right?
So, we are a diet and exercise person.
Our family is fit, lean, healthy.
Strong!
We go down to the beach, and everywhere we look, our eyes are scalded by the imminent ill-health, raspy breaths, and lycra-encased pudginess of those doing the slow, twinkie stroll to an early, wide grave.
Can we enjoy the beach?
Can we enjoy the beach?
If you are an audiologist, like a hearing doctor, and you know how bad loud sounds are for long-term hearing, can you go to a concert that's super loud, like Spinal Tap levels or the Who levels of decibel, of eardrum shredding decibels, Can we go to a concert and enjoy the concert knowing that people's hearing is being wrecked?
I mean, I'm very careful about my hearing.
And it really is quite shocking how loud everything is.
Even at the church I just went to on Sunday at the sermon I went to, it was loud, man.
I've got to put in my ear protection, or maybe it's because it's older people.
But, what's our relationship as diet and nutritional?
In this analogy, what's our relationship to diet and nutrition?
When we diet and nutrition experts, what's our relationship?
It's going to the beach.
It's painful.
It's difficult.
Everywhere we look, it scalds us.
It rubs us the wrong way.
It chafes at us.
How do we enjoy The world, when we care about health and everywhere we see the slow suicide of sedentary overeating.
And or, but probably both.
It's tough.
When you care about the future and you see every step being taken to lay The tracks inevitably towards conflict, war, violence.
And you see all of that.
How do we live?
How do we live?
How do we live and be happy when we care about a world that seems steadfastly addicted to rank and rampant self-destruction?
I mean, if you have boomers in your life, man, it's pretty wild that way.
There was a great post basically saying it's kind of like a weird reversal.
Like, you shield toddlers from the world because they can't handle it, and then you have to shield boomers from the world because they can't handle it.
They can't handle it.
I was talking to a boomer the other day who loftily informed me.
That a particular set of islands was going to be underwater because of global warming.
And I said, well, that's kind of odd.
You're like, when you fill the bath, does only one side get filled?
Doesn't it get filled evenly?
He's like, well, yeah.
I said, well, how could just one set of islands go underwater?
Because the sea level would have to rise everywhere, right?
Tends to even out, right?
I don't understand, right?
And you just get this pause and this resentment.
Younger people might say, "Oh, I guess it's kind of true.
I never really thought of that, right?" Just get this resentment.
"How dare you take away my worldview?
How dare you take away what makes me feel good about it?
How dare you?" And, of course, I normally wouldn't have engaged.
With such a person, but unfortunately, he said it in front of my daughter, so the obligations are different, right?
So, listen, man, if you have thoughts about this, if you have things that you want to say about this, I mean, I think we all struggle with this, don't we?
I mean, we care about our parents.
We want our parents to see reason, right?
We want our parents to see reason.
We want our parents to understand things, to accept reality.
Yet, boy, oh boy, oh boy, do they ever not a lot of times.
Boy, oh boy, oh boy, do they ever not a lot of times.
So, This is what I meditate on the most.
How can I achieve happiness when I want the world to be sane, but it steadfastly throws its lot in with rampant craziness and corruption?
So, if you have thoughts that you wanted to share in this area, I'm obviously very happy to hear them.
you just need to raise your hand.
Otherwise I can at least talk about, I don't know.
I have a question.
Yes, go ahead, sir.
Yeah, so speaking of kind of diabetes and obesity, I had a parenting-related question.
I'm sorry, a what related?
A parenting-related question.
Is this in the topic as a whole?
I suppose it's tangential.
I mean, I'm trying to do a theme here.
Now, if you want to make it about something that's off the theme, because you said on the topic of diabetes, I have a parenting-related question, so I just wanted to make sure it is on the topic.
That's fine.
If it's not on the topic, that's fine too, but you've kind of got to tell me that up front, don't you?
Sure.
I suppose that's fair.
Okay, so is it on the topic or not?
It's, I suppose, off-topic.
Okay.
So then, what do you need to ask me?
I mean, I'm just trying to teach you some sort of basic politeness thing.
Sure.
Would you mind if I ask an off-topic question?
I don't mind sitting down.
I don't mind, since you've asked nicely.
I don't mind asking an off-topic question.
It just seems like you were trying to wedge it in as if it was an on-topic question.
Well, speaking of diabetes, should I invest in Bitcoin?
You know what I mean?
So, okay, go ahead.
Okay.
Yeah, sorry about that.
Yeah, there's a book that was written recently, and it kind of comes from the unschooling kind of school of thought.
Regarding parenting, and there's this idea that we should have kind of no limits whatsoever in regards to what we feed our kids.
And if they want to eat kind of nothing but ice cream and sweets, we should kind of just let them do that and kind of allow them to experience the consequences and kind of point those out to them and say, you know, maybe warn them ahead of time and say, you know, it's okay if you eat the ice cream, but you're Probably going to have a stomachache after.
Do you have any thoughts about like, because they kind of come at it from the angle of it's kind of a moral thing.
Like what right do parents have to kind of restrict kids from doing what they want to do?
We can teach them and we can guide them and give them advice, but can we really force them?
To not eat certain things if they really are set on it.
Do you have any thoughts on that kind of frame of mind?
Yeah, I mean, I certainly have some trouble understanding it.
If children could make good decisions, they wouldn't be children.
I mean, children make bad decisions, not relative to children, but relative to adults.
So, parenting is the recognition that children are going to make Bad decisions.
And then we teach them how to make good decisions.
And then when they consistently make good decisions, we turn them loose on the world.
And then we increase consequences and so on.
But I don't know what it means to force a child to not eat, I don't know, a bag of potato chips every meal, right?
Well, you just don't have the potato chips in the house.
And if the child doesn't have access to the potato chips, the child can't eat the potato chips.
Now, if we don't have bad food in the house, is that the initiation of the use of force against children?
That's a real question.
Yeah, I would say it's not.
Okay, it's not.
Of course it's not.
Of course it's not, right?
It's not an initiation of the use of force to not have any food in the house because kids got to eat, but to not have bad food in the house is not a violation of the non-aggression principle and so on, right?
So there's that.
Now, are children allowed to drink alcohol in this scenario?
would you allow your child to get drunk on a regular basis?
I haven't heard them make an argument, to be fair, but I assume that they would not let their kids get drunk.
Okay.
What if your child wanted to make a smoothie out of laundry detergent?
Yeah, I'm sure they wouldn't let their kids do that either.
Okay, what if your child wanted to take a blanket Yeah, of course not.
Right.
What if your child wanted to eat lipstick?
I mean, it looks like candy sometimes.
I mean, it looks like candy sometimes.
Yeah, definitely not okay.
Okay, so, I mean, the idea that you should not prevent your children from doing things Is absurd.
I mean, it's beyond absurd.
So this is, as usual, immature personalities overreact.
Right?
Well, my parent was way too authoritarian, so I'm not going to exercise any authority whatsoever.
Which is as sensible as saying, well, my mother fed me too much food and I got fat, so I'm going to starve my children.
Like, you've got to have the pendulum in the middle.
So, as parents, you should model good eating and you should have healthy food in the house.
Now, you should also, of course, give your children some exposure to treats so that they learn how to handle and manage them.
I personally would not, in a million years, deny my child the pleasure she took when she was young in going out for Halloween with friends.
Because it's a blast.
So, yeah, there's going to be some...
I mean, treats, anything that's edible without danger is, to some degree, fine in moderation, right?
So, is chocolate bad?
Well, no.
You know, I mean, dark chocolate has some health benefits, you could argue.
But chocolate is not bad.
It's just too much chocolate, right?
I mean, even a couple of handfuls of potato chips are not going to kill you, you know, that kind of stuff, right?
Unless it's Pringles, in which case it's like, dear God, how do they make them all the same shape?
What, do they have some machine put saliva in them and then stamp them out?
It's like, it's just weird to me.
So, when it comes to parenting, you model good behavior, and then you progressively expose your children to tempting foods, and you also show yourself saying no to tempting foods, right?
Every time you go to a restaurant, they're like, oh, you guys want to see the dessert menu?
I'm like, nope.
It's tempting, right?
It's tempting.
Of course you have to have your children learn self-discipline.
Children are not born with self-discipline, and that's a good thing, right?
Because babies cry out for what they want without thinking about the mother's needs, and that's how the babies stay alive.
That's serving the actual needs of the mother, which is to keep the baby alive.
So the idea that you should not have any authority with your children is ridiculous because no child will survive without parental authority.
So, I mean, When you have toddlers, you childproof the house, right?
That's a reasonable thing to do.
Because otherwise, the toddlers can engage in some seriously dangerous behavior.
They can tumble down stairs and break bones and so on, right?
So you, I mean, oh my God, I'm confining the child like I'm imprisoning the child by putting a gate at the top of the stairs when they've just learned how to walk.
Right?
You keep your kids safe, and that's going to involve some authority.
So I find this is both foolish and dangerous.
And I remember...
I mean, she was on my show and she was like, oh yeah, if my kid wants a steady diet of chocolate every night, they'll get sick of it.
Well...
I mean, I knew a family once.
Their kid wanted to fall asleep.
Drinking juice.
Apple juice, I think it was.
And the kid ended up with eight cavities.
Because, you know, the juice would all pool in the crooks and nooks and crannies of the teeth.
And it was horrible.
So now you have to...
Right?
Your kids have to get up and move.
Your kids can't stay hunched over all day on computers and tablets.
Your kids have to learn how to read.
Your kids have to learn how to do math.
Your kids have to learn something about history and geography.
They have to know these things.
And my standard, as I've said before, is always, and I've explained this to my daughter when it was age appropriate, is that my job is to deliver you to adulthood, well-educated, and healthy.
That's my job.
And I don't judge by whether you want things or don't want things in the moment.
What I judge is by what you will turn to me and say when you're 18 or 19 or 20. Now, if you never learned how to read, then you're going to be 17 or 18. Maybe you want to go to college or maybe you want to do something like that and you won't be able to because you didn't learn how to read.
Will you turn to me and say, actually, Dad, I'm really glad you never taught me how to read.
No, of course not.
You're going to have a job.
It's probably going to involve some numbers, right?
You're going to make some change for people.
You're going to have to add things up and have a rough sense of how much you're charging them.
So if you try to get a job, In a service industry where you're dealing with customers or some other job where you might need to know numbers and you don't know any numbers, they won't hire you.
Would you sit there and say, wow, I'm really glad.
Now I can't get a job.
I can't go to college.
I'm so glad that you didn't teach me how to do numbers or read, right?
Similarly, of course, if I were to deliver my daughter to adulthood, 50 pounds overweight, and she couldn't play sports and she couldn't attract a quality guy, And she had trouble climbing stairs and she had trouble sleeping because her breathing would be off.
And she felt embarrassed and didn't want to go to pool parties and didn't want to go to the beach.
And I said, well, would you thank me for that?
Would you like, hey, man, I'm really glad you let me have all of those Twinkies and Ding Dongs when I was a kid.
No, you'd be like, why did you let me?
Why did you let me do that?
So taking care of people's future considerations is really important.
I mean, I exercise when I don't want to because, not that I always don't want to, but I exercise even when I don't want to because I want to take care of my future self.
You know, my future self, if I don't exercise, my future self will not sit there and say, hey, I'm really glad our bones are brittle, man.
That was a good call.
Good job.
Well done.
So, yeah, we take care of future selves.
And I would argue that it is actually close to, and it depends on the severity, but it's close to abusive parenting.
if you let your children get fat, that's on you as the parent because you control the entire environment.
If your children don't exercise, don't develop any basic physical skills, like And there were always these one or two kids had no physical coordination.
Well, that's not nice either.
I'm not saying it's abusive, but that's not a good thing.
To have a kid who can't throw and catch or can't kick or can't, you know, run and kick at the same time, who has developed...
You look like a total nerd.
Right?
I mean, this is the Les Nesmith in WKRP.
His mother forced him to play violin all day rather than doing any sports, so he can't do sports.
He had no business being out there.
No business being out there.
That's bad, man.
That's bad.
Like if you deny your kid peer play, right?
Then they don't learn how to talk to peers.
They don't know how to make and take jokes.
They don't know how to do the back and forth.
They don't know how to lead or follow.
Or both, both hopefully, right?
So, it's not good.
To not exercise any authority is cowardly.
And it is a withdrawal from a necessary responsibility as parents.
I do not, I emphatically do not agree with unparenting.
And I have talked about this for decades.
I emphatically, emphatically disagree.
That is a form of neglect in my view, and neglect is really bad.
Your kids need guidance.
Your kids need guidance.
I mean, if you, let's say you run your own business, right?
And you have an accountant who does your taxes, and you say, hey, can I pay myself a bonus this year?
Right now, your accountant might say, yes, and here's how much you can do, or here are the consequences, or your accountant might say, probably not a good idea because of X, Y, and Z, or whatever.
Does your accountant just say, Well, you know, spend as much as you want and, you know, we'll see how it shakes out.
You'll learn through experience.
No.
Right, you go to your dentist.
Does your dentist just say, oh, just, you know, eat what you want.
You'll figure it out through trial and error.
No.
Of course not.
I remember this is back in the days of the Don Mills Mall.
I don't know, it's like, There was a woman who was behind the counter at a sort of walk-in dental place, and I honestly do not remember the conversation that led up to this, but she said, you have to floss!
You have to floss!
And it, like, kind of goosed me.
She was so emphatic about it.
And I assume that it's because someone just came in with truly wrecked teeth or whatever, right?
And I remember someone on the FDR forums way back in the day saying, like, I have the price of a small car in my mouth because I didn't take care of my teeth.
You don't let, you know, experts don't tell you.
Like, do you go to a nutritionist who just says, yeah, eat whatever you want, figure it out, you know?
Do you gain weight?
Do you lose weight?
Do you have more energy?
Just figure it out.
You go to a personal trainer to say, you know, just go do various machines or don't do them or whatever.
No, you go to experts for expertise so they save you time.
And you don't get injured.
You go to the personal trainer so he'll teach you proper form, the proper amount of weight, the diet, and, you know, protein is a big thing apparently, the diet and stuff that you might need in order to progress.
You go to tutors so they save you time.
You go to coaches so they help you improve.
Authority is everywhere.
This is like the old Bakunin thing, right?
People say, he was an anarchist.
People say, I resist authority.
Nonsense.
I fully accept authority.
I accept the authority of the shoemaker on how to make shoes.
I accept the authority of the baker on the best way to bake bread.
I just disavow.
Coercive authority.
So I think unparenting is a chickening out, and it is an overreaction to excessive authority, is to have little to no authority, and it leaves kids adrift having to figure things out for themselves, which to me is foolish.
You don't just say to kids, figure out language on your own, figure out spelling on your own.
Figure out how to read on your own.
Figure out numbers on your own.
Figure out diet, nutrition, exercise on your own.
No.
No.
A thousand times no.
So, anyway, I hope that helps.
Is there anybody else who had any other questions or comments about what do we do as a nutritionist and exercise mogul?
When it comes to trying to enjoy our day at the beach or the mall or the airplane or wherever.
Because it's rough, man.
It's rough.
You know, if you are a lung doctor and you see people smoking, it hurts your soul because you're really dedicated to keeping people healthy.
And it's rough, man.
It's rough seeing that.
And, you know, now, of course, it's more rare to see people smoking in the past.
It was like half of people smoked, and it was really common.
Greece in the 1950s was a tobacco smoke cloud with occasional patches of earth underneath.
So I don't know the answer as a whole, and the answer is probably individual to some degree, although I think there are general principles that work.
So I'll tell you my answer, and if you have any thoughts.
About that, I'm certainly happy to hear.
But, yeah, my answer is something like this.
Well, you spend your life trying to teach people about diet and exercise, right, in this analogy.
And there are people in your personal life who won't listen.
And then there are people in society as a whole.
Who don't listen.
Everybody knows that obesity is bad.
Everybody knows that not exercising is bad for you.
And you must, you must, you must, you must, must, must, must, to keep your sanity, in my opinion, right?
I know I'm saying you must and in my opinion, but I'm pretty solid about this one, though, of course, I'm certainly happy to take counter arguments.
You must detach.
From the consequences of people's bad choices.
You must detach from the consequences of people's bad choices.
You have to discipline yourself to not care.
Even about that which you care about enormously.
Obviously, I care about bringing reason, facts, empiricism, and evidence and ethics to the world.
And I have Of course, talk to millions of people, tens of millions of people, directly, indirectly, thousands of people, directly, millions, tens of millions, or more, indirectly.
How many people listen?
I don't know.
I don't know, and obviously, I can't tell from the call-in shows, because the call-in shows are usually people who didn't listen, saying, hey, I didn't listen, and my life kind of went bad.
That's important.
But that's a self-selecting group, right?
It's like the doctor saying, man, everyone's sick.
It's like, no, they just come to you when they're unwell, right?
So a lot of people do listen.
Of course, I do get the messages of like, hey, here's my wife and kids, or here's my husband and kids.
You know, everything's great.
Thank you so much, right?
No need for a call and show.
things are going beautifully because, you know, they listen to philosophy, reason, evidence, UPB, that kind of stuff, RTR.
So...
Thank you.
You've got an uncle who smokes, you tell him to stop smoking for 20 years, and then he gets sick.
You have to discipline yourself to not care.
You have to discipline yourself.
And if you're staying in that kind of relationship for whatever reason, he also has to know, if you don't listen to me, I don't care.
Right?
You're a diet nutrition guy.
Your uncle is fat, doesn't exercise, and you say, you need to lose weight and exercise.
I really strongly recommend that.
I'll help you out as best I can.
But if you don't, I will not help you if you get sick.
Sorry, not if, when.
When you get sick.
Just so you know, right?
The price of not listening to me is my In other words, if you don't care about bad consequences, neither do I. This is really foundational for me.
So I can go to the beach, look around, and be happy.
so I can see crazy people everywhere and be totally happy with my day.
I will not care about And of course, the future becomes the present all too quickly.
I will not.
I will not care about people more than they care about themselves.
Because that's just a recipe for getting the living shit exploited out of you forever and ever.
Amen.
If you want to be fat and not exercise, that's your choice.
I'm obviously encased and yanked along by your decision because of your consumption of my taxes in public.
Health resources and dollars.
But if you don't care about your future, I will not care about that future when it arrives.
Oh, I've been overweight for 40 years.
My knees are killing me.
Don't care.
I don't care.
This is a matter of self-discipline.
It's really, really important.
Now, If somebody has a health issue that they did not bring on themselves, you know, which is 25-30% of the time, health issues are not lifestyle-related.
Like three-quarters, 70-75% of the time, health issues are lifestyle-related and obvious lifestyle-related, right?
Right?
If you love to speed on your motorcycle, I'm not visiting you in the hospital.
If you do really stupid shit, like you go rock climbing without a belay and you fall, you break your leg, I'm not coming.
I'm not coming.
If you get some ailment out of nowhere that you didn't cause, that, you know, whatever, right?
Like you eat well, you exercise, and then you get some ailment.
Hell, man, I have nothing but sympathy.
Thank you.
Thank you.
But it is a matter of self-discipline.
To teach yourself to be cold is essential for keeping your heart warm.
Because if you are open to everyone and their dog who makes bad decisions, oh, I'm a gambling addict, man, I need you to lend me money.
No.
Hey, I sympathize with the trauma that led to the gambling addiction, but I've been telling you for 10 years, you've got to go.
To talk to therapists, you've got to figure out how to quit this, and you keep going.
Okay, right?
I don't care.
Because you didn't care about it enough to stop, so I'm not going to care about it enough to fix it.
Or try.
Now, you want to keep your heart warm in life.
And the only way to keep your heart warm is to get really fucking cold in the presence of self-inflicted wounds.
Don't care.
I'm reserving my caring for people who don't do it to themselves.
Now, I know that there's a gray area and all of that, but I'm just talking about a general principle.
A general principle.
A guy who keeps yelling at his wife and keeps bossing his wife around, I don't care when he gets divorced.
I don't care.
I'll be sad for the kids or whatever, but I'm not going to give him any sympathy.
Bro, I told you to stop yelling at your wife.
I told you to, like, oh, I'm working 80 hours a week.
And my kids don't want to talk to me.
It's like, but you chose money over your kids.
Why would I?
I don't care.
Like, I'm sorry for the kids, obviously, but I don't care that you have a bad relationship with your kids because I kept telling you you're working too much.
I kept telling you, stop yelling at your wife.
I kept, you know, stop nagging your husband, whatever, right?
I gave you good advice.
And the great thing about good advice is it uncouples you from bad outcomes.
And again, this is just a matter of self-discipline.
And it actually, if you have that self-discipline, and people see the price of not taking your good advice, then they'll start taking your good advice.
Because one of the reasons why people are comfortable not taking good advice is they expect to get resources no matter what.
I know it's true that you told me to quit smoking for 30 years, but now I've got XYZ, emphysema, COPD, lung cancer, whatever.
I now expect your resources.
But that's one of the reasons why.
They didn't listen.
They thought they'd get the goods on you, get the goodies from you, get the resources from you, even if they don't listen.
Now, to me, if you don't listen to me, hey, it's a free choice, man.
Free will, free planet.
You don't have to listen to me.
You don't.
But if you don't listen to me, and bad things happen, I don't care.
I don't care.
You know, people who stopped listening to me when I was deplatformed, And they're broke.
It's like, well, you missed a 10x on Bitcoin because you didn't listen to me.
Okay.
Well, I mean, I don't care about you being broke.
People who say to me, hey, man, you got to support me.
You got to help me.
You got to look out for me.
I'm like, hey, okay.
So you show me where you spoke up for me when I was deplatformed.
Is this a principle or are you just an exploiter?
You show me where you spoke up.
For me, you went to the wall for me, or you've just contacted me privately with sympathy.
You show me where you supported me over deplatforming, and if you did that, I will help you in what you're doing.
But if you didn't do that, don't tell me that supporting other people is important.
That's nonsense, right?
Some guy goes and has an affair, and his wife leaves him.
I'm like, I don't care.
Why would I care?
Why would I care about your marriage more than you care about your marriage?
I actually just had this conversation two days ago with a guy who was just cold to his whole life.
Wouldn't get upset about anything in his life.
I'm like, well, I'm not going to care about your life more than you do.
Peace out, man.
It's self-discipline.
So, what do I mean when I say you've got to be cold-hearted in order to be warm-hearted?
You provide resources to people who didn't listen to your good advice, right?
You give them love, care, attention, money, time, whatever, right?
Sympathy.
then what's left over for the people who didn't inflict their own ill fortunes?
you Thank you.
What's left over?
It's like if you forgive people who don't apologize, Then what do you give to people who do apologize?
Like, apologies, like you give them forgiveness and a six-pack?
Like, what is it?
Like, they've done more.
They've done better.
In order to stay warm-hearted, you have to not be exploited.
In order to not be exploited, you have to uncouple yourself from sympathy for self-inflicted wounds.
You made your bad, you lie in it.
You made your choice, accept the consequences.
Right?
All the people who didn't care about the loss of jobs in Republican areas, like the Rust Belt, the canceling the Keystone Pipeline, what was that, 10,000 jobs?
Right there.
All the people who didn't care about the loss of jobs in Republican circles, well, Republicans don't care about the loss of jobs in Democrat circles with USAID and Doge and all these sorts of things, right?
Don't care.
Well, I didn't have sympathy for you, but you gotta have sympathy for me.
Fuck off, I don't.
Of course I don't.
Don't be ridiculous.
But that's a matter of self-discipline.
Because if you're a sympathetic person, and I am, to a fault, to a fault, I'm a sympathetic person, but you have to have the discipline.
Thank you.
Thank you.
You have to have the discipline to pull back the tentacles, Of aid from the inevitable wounds that are self-inflicted.
Otherwise, you let people's bad, foolish decisions, corrupt decisions, not listening to good advice decisions, they then rule your life.
And so, if you're a slender, Reasonably muscular fellow, you go to the beach, go have a great time.
The people who are overweight, hey man, they're choosing food over health.
They're choosing present consumption over future happiness.
They're choosing present pleasure over future pain.
Thank you.
I mean, I've been looking at some universities and I was talking to somebody at the university.
He's like, oh yeah, I'm an engineer.
I'm like, yeah, yeah, I have an arts degree.
And we used to make fun of the engineers for being nerds and having to work too hard.
And, you know, we felt very superior to them.
However, you guys did have the significant advantage of actually getting jobs after graduation.
So it did kind of balance out.
And of course, it was kind of funny and all of that.
I was trying to give a little laugh wherever I go.
And there's a certain amount of bitter truth in that.
But I have a history degree.
Well, next stop was chief technical officer of a software company, naturally.
So, if people take the pleasure now, I'm not going to have sympathy for the pain later.
You know, some woman has a lot of fun.
She sleeps around.
She travels on questionable dollars, right?
Usually cock-surfing dollars, right?
So, Some woman sleeps around.
She has a lot of fun.
She gets to travel, has a lot of sex, gets a lot of attention, flirts a lot, gets stuff paid for.
Hey, you know, a lot of fun.
And then she's, you know, burnt out, thousand penis stare in her 30s, and it's like, I don't, I mean, I told you not to do all of that stuff.
I thought she was going to be bad for you.
I don't care.
I'm not going to try and get you a boyfriend.
I'm certainly not going to listen to you complain.
I'm not going to listen to you complain, because you had fun.
You had fun.
It's like somebody goes out partying instead of studying for an exam, and then they want to bitch and moan at you about they failed their exam.
It's like, I don't care.
You chose to go out and party.
You chose to try and write an exam hungover.
And you failed.
Like, why would I, like the guy I was in school with and university with, who took a lot of uppers to write an exam.
And he thought he'd aced the exam.
It turned out he'd wrote all of his answers on one line.
So all they got was like a completely pen shredded and ink shredded one line that went through like five pages.
But of course, there was nothing to read.
So he failed.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I reserve my sympathy for the non-self-inflicted.
The people who self-inflict know that I don't have sympathy.
Why would I?
Why would I have sympathy?
Somebody who goes and spends all their money and has a blast spending all their money and then later they complain about being broke, it's like, I don't have any sympathy.
Like, I don't have any sympathy.
Some guy who, you know, didn't learn how to talk to girls and chickened out of the necessary...
It's like, man, I'm 30. I can't talk to girls.
It's like, because you chose, you know, porn over talking to girls.
Like, you avoided that pain.
You had some sort of satisfaction with your hand or whatever, right?
And so, like, why?
There's nothing to have sympathy about.
There's nothing.
Somebody, some guy doesn't brush his teeth very well, doesn't floss, doesn't go to the dentist.
Oh, my teeth hurt.
It's like, you know.
And?
And I don't like that.
And?
It's completely predictable.
So, if you want to stay warm-hearted to people who are suffering genuine misfortune, misfortune is when you didn't do it yourself, right?
Misfortune is getting shot in some Random drive-by in a decent neighborhood.
You're caught astray.
Couldn't predict it.
You're just out walking your dog.
Weird, bad luck coincidence, right?
Okay.
But somebody shoots themselves.
I can have sympathy for what might lead up to it or whatever, right?
But I can't.
I won't.
Matter of self-discipline.
You have to have self-discipline.
Because if you don't have self-discipline, people will just exploit you.
What they'll do is they'll have all of their fun, and then when the inevitable suffering comes up, they'll eat all their cheesecake, they'll stay on the couch, and all of that's enjoyable for a lot of people, and then when their knees hurt and their back hurt and they can't sleep and they lose their job and whatever, right?
They have health issues and whatever, like gout or whatever it is, like whatever that thing is that makes your cough swell up like a Schwarzenegger peck.
Okay, well, was it red wine?
Yeah, yeah, you had a lot of red wine.
And now you've got gout.
It's like, well, but the wine was fun.
It wasn't like...
I'm not...
Like, you had fun.
Now this is less fun.
I mean, all my friends who didn't have to have two or three jobs when they were teenagers, they didn't really achieve very much.
I think I've achieved a fairly good job.
And, well, they had easier youth, and I have, I wouldn't say easier necessarily, but definitely a more rich and meaningful holder age.
So, it is an essential self-discipline.
Do not get roped into the self-pity of the self-inflicted.
Well, I...
I told you to quit smoking.
Yeah, I should have listened.
Yeah.
Good luck.
Right, this is like the story I talked about a year or two ago on the show.
About the guy.
He had his girlfriend.
She wanted to go to some really sketchy party in some really trashy neighborhood.
And he's like, don't go, man.
Don't go.
Do not go.
I will not be your boyfriend if you go.
I can't control you, but I can control whether I spend time with you.
She's like, oh, okay, right.
You make a good case.
I won't go.
So then she went.
She got sexually assaulted.
She called him at four in the morning.
Sobbing.
Because she was sexually assaulted.
And he broke up with her.
And everyone was like, how could you break up with her, man?
She suffered.
She's in trauma.
How could you?
How could you?
It's like, she didn't listen.
He's not happy.
Right?
Nobody's happy with these situations.
But I refuse to have my good choices ruined by people's bad choices.
See, you've got to guard your warmth of your heart and the happiness of your environment absolutely fiercely and you do not let, do not let people's bad choices ruin your good choices.
Do not let people's bad choices ruin your good choices.
Otherwise, you're rewarding them for their bad choices and punishing yourself for your good choices.
Thank you.
I mean, I chose not to get vaccinated for COVID, and let me tell you, man, that was not easy.
That was not easy.
Canada was not easy.
So then, when I hear someone in some friend group, oh man, some bad things happened to me after the vaccine, I'm like, you know, that's tough.
Good luck.
I mean, everybody's...
Sure, you can inject me.
Just, you know, give me a slice of pizza or a donut in a parking lot.
Okay, well, their compliance made my life more difficult.
Thank you.
So, disciplining yourself to not care on the self-inflicted.
And self-inflicted could be any number of things, right?
Some guy sleeps around.
It's like, man, I got an STD.
And?
Yeah, I played Russian roulette and I got shot.
Yeah, well, don't play Russian roulette then.
What can I tell you?
And having this, I say, coldness, these boundaries, this discipline, whatever you want to call it, not getting roped into sympathy for the self-pity of the self-inflicted, you can't be happy without that.
Give people good advice when bad things happen, right?
You know, she's got a lot of red flags, man.
I wouldn't go out with her if I were near shoes.
No, she's great.
I could save her, right?
And then bad things happen.
It's like, well, I don't want to hear it.
Sorry, we're closed.
The door slams the vault and the lock circles and spins and the combo has changed.
Should have listened to you, man.
Yeah, you should have.
I mean, let's say you got five Bitcoins, right?
Somebody didn't listen to you.
You go, man, you got to buy Bitcoin.
You got to buy Bitcoin.
No!
Nah, it doesn't exist, man.
It's not real.
Okay.
So then the guy is like, oh, man, I should have.
Oh, I should have.
I should have bought that.
I mean, are you going to give him half your Bitcoins?
Are you going to give him two and a half Bitcoins?
nope So, that's the answer.
For me, if you're a diet nutrition guy at the beach, you don't let the fat people ruin your day.
Now, I get it.
So, the fat people are going to glare at you, right?
Right.
So, the fat guys are going to glare at you because they look at your lean, muscled body and they know that their girlfriends and their wives are way keener on you than on them.
So, they're going to glare at you.
I get that.
And the fat kids are going to glare at your kids who are able to run up and down the beach and jump in the waves and, you know, without, right?
Beluga wheezing.
People are going to resent you.
Don't care.
Don't care.
I mean, my wife and I are hugging, kissing, holding hands everywhere we go.
If we're around sour negative couples, they roll their eyes.
Don't care.
You chose not to fix your relationships.
You chose pettiness over maturity.
You chose talking over listening.
You chose escalation over reason.
Even the gods, it's an old Greek saying, even the gods cannot stop this rule.
Take what you want and pay for it.
Take what you want and pay for it.
Now, this is universal hedonism.
So the hedonist takes what they want and then whine, complain, and nag you for resources when the inevitable consequences of their own bad decisions come to pass.
Right?
Thank you.
Right?
Now, if you said to someone, don't be fat, and then they have health issues that put them flat on their back, do you come over and do their laundry and mow their lawn and do their dishes and help them out and wipe their ass?
Nope.
No.
Do you want to do that?
Nope.
So you're just taking the hedonist by the hedonist's own standards.
Do what you want.
Don't do what you don't want.
Don't have self.
Don't do what you don't want.
Do you want to go and help someone who self-inflicted their own issues?
Do you want to give money to the guy who blew all of his money on useless shit that's clogging up his house?
Get a steady conveyor belt from Amazon to his doorstep?
Who invested in things that lose value, not in things that gain value?
Do you want to...
No.
So the hedonist is saying, well, you now have obligations to do what you don't want to do.
Your uncle's flat on his back because he's got emphysema, can't walk across the room.
Do you come over and wipe his ass and help him and cook for him and do all of these things?
Do you want to do that?
Nope.
So how is the hedonist going to say, well, man, you owe me obligations.
You've got to do things that you don't want to do.
It's like, but you're asking me to do things that I don't want to do because you rejected doing things that I said were good because you didn't want to do them.
You rejected doing the right thing even though you didn't feel like it, which is why you didn't quit smoking or stop eating or stop gambling or stop spending.
You're asking me to do the right thing, which is against what I want, when the whole reason you have to ask me is you never did the right thing against what you want.
So the hedonist who's in trouble because he just did what he felt like and didn't do what was difficult can't say to you, well, you have to do what's right even though it's difficult because they didn't do what was right even though it was difficult.
It's actually pretty easy to not eat too much and it's cheaper and you feel better.
Right, there's this meme, like it's a tragic face and it's like, when you had junk food and it didn't even taste good.
So.
Thank you.
So, the hedonist can't say, well, you've got to sacrifice your pleasures to my needs.
It's like, well, you didn't sacrifice your past pleasure for your future needs.
Why would I?
You have no right to ask me to do what I don't want to.
Because the whole reason you're in trouble is you didn't stop doing what you wanted to.
You didn't ever say to yourself, well, I've got to do what I don't want to, which is quit sleeping around, quit.
Being lazy, quit smoking weed.
Quit not exercising.
Quit overeating.
So, it's fair.
Right?
The hedonist does what's pleasurable for him.
And not taking care of the inevitable negative consequences of the hedonist's lifestyle, not taking care of that feels good to you.
You prefer not to.
He doesn't want to quit smoking.
You don't want to wipe his ass.
He didn't want to quit spending.
You don't want to give him money.
He did that which was easiest for him.
You can do that which is easiest for you, which is say no.
Don't want to.
Don't want to.
Sorry, don't want to.
People indulge themselves and yell and scream and pull fits and boss and bully, and then they end up alone.
It's like, well.
Well.
Welcome to the inevitable consequences of your own choices.
Right?
You had some boyfriend or girlfriend back in the day, kind of bullying, kind of nagging, kind of negative, always had to be in the right, never admitted fault.
They end up alone.
Well, you did what was easiest.
And now you get to live with what is hardest.
That's the deal.
That's life.
That's life.
Thank you.
But it's a matter of self-discipline.
You will see people everywhere you go making bad decisions and you don't let people making bad decisions ruin your good decisions.
I don't let couples who fight interfere with the happiness I have with my wife.
I don't.
I don't let people who don't exercise and overeat interfere with my happiness You know, like I had friends over.
In fact, we're doing it later.
But I had friends over and we did two hours of hard sports.
Fantastic.
I'm glad we can do that.
Thank you.
Thank you.
And if there was some person who was overweight and couldn't do it, well.
But you enjoyed all the cheesecake and chocolate and cookies and chips.
And those things are nice.
I like cheesecake.
I like cookies.
I like chocolate.
I like chips.
But I say no to that which is easy.
So I can say no to those who never said no to that, which was easy.
Thank you.
I mean, you chose porn over talking to girls.
Okay.
Well, I mean, I guess you can try, you can start or whatever, but it's not my business.
I told you to talk to girls.
You chose not to.
So now you can't talk to girls.
You know, oh, you're moving to Japan, you should probably learn Japanese.
Well, I moved to Japan, I didn't listen to your good advice, and now I can't talk to anyone and I can't get a job.
It's like, well, I mean, I'm not going to give you any sympathy for that.
Make your good decisions.
Encourage people that you care about to make good decisions.
If they make bad decisions, uncouple yourself from those consequences.
You must.
Or you are no longer in control of your own happiness.
I'll tell you this, man.
You cannot wrestle that steering wheel from my hands.
I will not.
You know, Wikipedia bullshit, lies, slander, deplatforming.
I will not.
Let.
People, take from me control over my own happiness.
I will not let people take from me my control over my own happiness.
I will not get into the car with a drunken person.
I will not get on the plane with a blind pilot.
I will not take diet advice from fat people.
I will not take workout advice from flabby people.
And I will not put my happiness in the hands of people who don't listen to reason, because then my control over my own happiness is gone.
Is gone.
I might screw up my life, but I will not let other people who screwed up their lives screw up my life.
If I'm going to screw up my life, damn it, it's going to be on my terms.
I'm going to be the one.
Who puts the car into the ditch and not someone else?
And the only way I can have or maintain control over my own happiness is to uncouple my caring from people's bad decisions.
The only way I can maintain happiness, any sense of control over the happiness in my life, is to uncouple My emotions from people's bad decisions.
With the exception that if it involves children, I'll say something.
Like if I see a parent out there yelling at his kid, I'll say something.
But yeah, other than that, nope.
No, no, no.
Because the kid's not responsible, right?
has no control.
Thank you.
Thank you.
But yeah.
You must maintain control over your own happiness.
That is one of the most essential, essential tasks in life is to maintain control over your own happiness.
And if you have people, like let's say you've got some girlfriend, she keeps making bad decisions, she won't do this, she won't do that.
She won't take the SATs because she's too nervous.
She won't take her driver's license.
Well, deal with your anxiety or I've got to move on.
I'm not going to sit there and be yanked around like the tail of a kite by people's bad decisions.
I will not put my happiness in the hands.
Of people who don't listen to reason, because then my happiness is out of my control, and I've got to beg and plead, and I'm a slave.
I will not be a slave to other people's bad decisions, which means I have to have the self-discipline to not care about the inevitable consequences of their bad decisions.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Oh man, I inherited some money, and I blew it, and now I'm broke.
Don't care.
Don't care.
Well, what do you think I should do?
Don't care.
You didn't listen to my advice before.
I'm not going to give you advice now.
No, no, no.
This time I'll listen, man.
This time I guarantee you I'll listen.
Don't care.
It's too late.
Like, once you've blown the money you inherited, what's the point of me telling you to save the money you inherited?
It's gone.
Once you've blown the health you had by smoking, not exercising, and being fat, Then it's gone.
It's gone.
Once you've destroyed your relationship with your wife, what's the point of, like, this lock in the barn door after the horse has left, right?
Oh, but you're so wise, man.
This time, I'll listen.
No.
No, I'm not getting involved.
I'm not putting my happiness into your hands.
Because you're a drunk, blindfolded driver.
Who's constantly feeling around for things in the backseat and playing with the radio?
Don't do it.
I won't do it.
I'm not getting in the car.
I'm not putting my health at the mercy of your bad driving.
And I'm not putting my happiness at the mercy of your bad decisions.
Did my mother make bad decisions after a truly terrible childhood?
And I'm perfectly clear about that.
Did my mother make bad decisions?
Has she ended up alone?
Yep.
Do I wish she'd made better decisions in the past?
Of course.
Am I going to go and fix things now?
Nope.
I told her she needed to make better decisions.
I told her that.
Begged her to get into therapy.
Begged her to stop doing what she was doing.
Begged her to make better decisions.
Even just read a book on stress management.
Whatever, right?
Doesn't take advice.
Okay.
So I'm now uncoupled from what happens to her.
And that's just a matter of discipline.
Because if I sat there, oh my God, my mom's lonely and unhappy and she's in this.
Bad situation and she's a hoarder and it's like, okay, well, I mean, nope.
I'm out of, I can't control any of that.
So it's off my list of things to care about.
And there's just a matter of, and of course, sometimes I think about it, oh, it's a pang.
Nope.
No, no, no, no.
I will maintain control.
I will be in the driver's seat.
I will have my hands at 10 and 2 on the steering wheel.
That's it.
That's what I do.
Now, if people listen to reason, I care about what happens.
I really do.
I'm invested, man, 100%.
My wife listens to reason.
My friends listen to reason.
My daughter listens to reason.
I usually, though of course I'm not perfect, I listen to reason.
So we're all invested in each other.
It's beautiful.
But you don't listen to reason.
I wish you the best of luck.
You're going to need it.
All right.
That's what I wanted to get across.
And this is also with yourself.
I don't give myself sympathy for my, quote, bad decisions, right?
This is why I've always said, who got me deplatformed?
I did.
I did.
It was little old me.
I put that car in the ditch.
Nobody else but me.
Nobody but me.
So, all right.
I hope that helps.
I hope that helps.
I wish everybody the very best.
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