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Experts Versus Podcasters
00:06:04
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| So when experts faced with growing competition of alternative media, which is, I'm going to say experts versus podcasters, just because I just need a common phrase for the two. | |
| experts are those generally with credentials and | |
| support for their perspectives. | |
| And the podcasters are, you know, the Wild West, the Freeformists, the Freeballers, and so on, right? | |
| So. Thank you. | |
| When experts are faced with growing competition, what do they do? | |
| I mean, I remember many years ago, showing my daughter, like, I do a tweet, and here's how many people like and read and share it. | |
| And then we went to CNN, we went to the New York Times, and so on, and here's their tweets, and, you know, it was night and day, right? | |
| So, when experts are faced with growing competition, what do they do? | |
| What do they do? | |
| Now, two things that heavily influenced me in my life, the business world and the sports world. | |
| I was very big into sports, played a lot of team sports when I was younger. | |
| I bought a polo team, swimming team, cross-country running team, although that's more solo. | |
| I was both singles and doubles. | |
| Tennis, volleyball, soccer, a lot of team sports. | |
| And I would play several times a week. | |
| I'm not a morning person. | |
| I would get up and... | |
| Practice swimming, right? | |
| So I did a fairly massive amount of sports when I was younger. | |
| Now, sports are really important because you don't sabotage, right? | |
| I mean, I remember seeing there was a couple of episodes of the show Glee where I think the cheerleaders were sabotaging another cheerleader by telling her she had to stop eating or couldn't eat and then she had no energy to, right? | |
| To compete with them. | |
| So when you're on a sports team and somebody comes along who's really good, it tends to up your game. | |
| They've done studies on this that runners run faster when somebody's running slightly faster than them. | |
| You get better with competition. | |
| So I learned a lot about competition from doing huge amounts of sports. | |
| And they still do fairly, fairly significant amounts of sports. | |
| So. So... | |
| You don't sabotage, right? | |
| You certainly don't sabotage on your own team, and you don't sabotage the other team, right? | |
| So, in the business world, there's competition, and competition drives innovation, right? | |
| So, I mean, because our customers always wanted to change the system, I wrote code that allowed the program to change itself. | |
| So they'd just hand over the program, let the customers change the system as they saw fit, right? | |
| This gave us a huge competitive advantage. | |
| And I learned a lot about, because I did a lot of sales and marketing, so I learned a lot about how you deal with competition when you're talking to clients, potential clients, RFPs, requests for proposals, you go down and give a presentation. | |
| So you don't badmouth your competitors. | |
| You position your strengths against their weaknesses. | |
| You admit where their weaknesses are stronger, where their strengths are better than yours. | |
| And you would learn from them. | |
| You would try to, you'd go to their website, you'd look at their demos, you wouldn't cheat and pretend to be a customer, but you would try and figure out what they were doing. | |
| And so on, right? | |
| So, you don't badmouth your competitors. | |
| You say, here's where our strength is. | |
| They do have these strengths, to be fair, so that you sound objective. | |
| And you learn from them, right? | |
| And it actually is... | |
| It's fierce, but friendly, if that makes sense. | |
| Fierce, but good-natured. | |
| Like sports. | |
| Sports are fierce, but good-natured, right? | |
| You try to win, and then you shake hands afterwards, right? | |
| Now, and because I came from the sports world, and I came from the business world, entering into the world of media and politics was fucking foul. | |
| It was fucking foul! | |
| I don't think I've ever, like, other than coming home from a rational universe to my family of origin, I don't think I've experienced anything fouler. | |
| It's one of the reasons why I eventually just had to, Busted out of politics and this sort of media stuff. | |
| It's foul. | |
| It's foul. | |
| I don't think, I didn't find it foul among the podcasters, but it's fucking foul. | |
| It really is. | |
| So, when I was in competition with other businesses to try and sell environmental management information systems, health and safety information systems, all the stuff that I had programmed and worked on, I mean, we fought hard. | |
| And I remember calling people up, congratulating them. | |
| They called me up to congratulate me. | |
| But we fought hard against each other, but we shook hands, right? | |
| And we needed each other because, you know, if you've got five competitors, they're all advertising. | |
| And that saves you money on your average. | |
| If you're the only person, then you have to do all the advertising. | |
| So it's fierce but friendly. | |
| Now, what I couldn't imagine was Going up against a fierce competitor or a series of fierce competitors, losing to them, and then trying to get them debanked by lying and saying they were money laundering or they were fraudulent. | |
| I couldn't conceive of that. | |
| I mean, that would be like your concern that you're going to lose a running race to some guy. | |
| So what you do is you spike his drink. | |
| With some performance-enhancing drug and then you make an anonymous call to get him tested. | |
| That's fucking foul. | |
| That's incomprehensible. | |
| I've never heard of anything like that, honestly. | |
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Nancy Kerrigan's Story
00:01:13
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| Never heard of anything like that in the business world. | |
| I'm sorry. | |
| Yeah, mis, dis, mal. | |
| Yeah, misinformation, disinformation, mal information is all they do. | |
| Yeah. Yeah, they run to the government, and that happens in the business world as well. | |
| Joe Rogan was pretty foul to you, as far as I recall. | |
| Yeah, that's true. | |
| That's true. | |
| Yeah, you're right, James. | |
| You don't go Nancy Kerrigan, right? | |
| Well, actually, Tonya Harding was the one who, I think she hired her boyfriend to take a pipe wrench to Nancy Kerrigan's knee or something like that, right? | |
| I mean, I used to, back in the day in another life, I've always been – well, I was an introvert, pretty shy as a kid, but I really worked hard to sort of overcome that. | |
| And I used to go down to Vegas, and you set up this whole – I'm sure you've been to conferences properly at one time or another. | |
| So we would go down, you'd set up your booth, and I would chat with people and make jokes and show them our software, and you'd offer them an iPod if they'd give you a business card, and then you'd go and call them later and so on, right? | |
| And, of course, we would go over to our competitors' booths. | |