Dec. 22, 2023 - Freedomain Radio - Stefan Molyneux
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Well, good evening, friends, foes, pater and mater, familias of all different kinds, shapes, sizes, and persuasions.
It is the 8th of December 2023.
Hey, look at that, got the year right.
And we are live-streaming Maximum Philosophy Overdrive tonight, as in all nights.
How was my day, Steph? Thank you, Josh.
What was my day like?
It was pretty good. It was pretty good.
I went out for brunch with my daughter where we spoke of many fun things and I did something else.
Oh yes, that's right.
I worked on the Peaceful Parenting book and then I did an hour of recording of questions from locals which I'll be posting soon and Ah.
You know, it really was just today.
I should, I should remember this stuff.
I should, what the heck did I do?
Oh, yes. Then I played some sports with my wife.
Yes, that's what I did.
Played some sports with my wife.
She's getting over a bit of a cough, so I had the advantage.
I pressed it, of course, like Genghis Khan on the neck of a peasant.
And then I chatted with James and Jared about the show.
And now I am streaming with the liveliness.
It's not live streaming. It's live screaming.
That's live screaming. That's what I'm doing.
Live screaming. So, I hope you guys had a good day, too.
And, good evening, questions, comments, issues.
How's the survey coming along?
Survey is coming along well.
Let me ask you this while we're here, you know, while we're gathering, the storm crowds, storm crows and crowds and so on.
While we are gathering, what is a pain point for you with the show?
What is the pain point for you with the show?
If you're doing searches, if you're trying to find stuff, do you dislike the layout of the website?
What is it that you dislike about the show?
That's what I would like to know.
What is it you dislike about the interface, anything I'm doing, anything that is going on?
What is it that you dislike about the show?
What could we apply resources to to make the show better for you?
You can sort of mull that over.
Nathan says, currently writing my final paper for political science about the relations between civil rights and civic engagement.
Do you have any thoughts on the matter?
Civil rights and civic engagement.
you Well, you know, civil rights is just an egalitarian phrase, right?
The American experiment came to an end in the 1960s, right?
Do you know? You know all of that?
Links in telegram don't often lead to the material in the title of the post.
The truth about the French Revolution doesn't go to the truth of the French Revolution.
I don't know what that means.
Oh, well, no.
So, the truth of the French Revolution is for...
The truth about the French Revolution is for donors.
So Telegram is not donors.
There is a donor area on Telegram.
But Telegram is not primarily for donors.
So of course it's not going to lead to the donor stuff because it's just telling you that there is donor stuff.
So, yeah, I mean, the American experiment, I mean, it ended, of course, 80 years after the beginning of America, to a large degree, with the Civil War.
It took another nail in the coffin with the creation of the Fed, First World War, FDR's policy, Second World War, Vietnam, stagflation.
But really, the American experiment in equality and egalitarianism before the law came to a crashing effect.
Fall in the 1960s with civil rights.
What's called civil rights legislation.
Sometimes tags on the podcast don't show up when finding episodes.
For example, if it's a business episode, I can't find it.
Well, are there actually business tags on the podcast?
Because the search should definitely work for that.
Although we are working on a natural language search that is mostly composed of swear words.
Like if you swear at the search engine sufficiently, it will cough up what you're looking for.
All right. Civil rights means that if you can portray yourself as a victim, you get free resources from other people, right?
So, civil rights has created a massive complaint class, right?
Um...
When men, in general, when men don't have enough, they work harder to get more.
When women don't feel like they have enough, they complain.
They nag, right? They complain until they get what they say they want.
It's a form of nagging, right?
And that is generally what a lot of that stuff has to do with.
I can't do anything with locals as a whole.
We can put in suggestions, but you can go to support.locals.com and you can tell them if something doesn't work.
I was going to have a debate with this guy Destiny at some point.
I can't honestly remember what happened to it.
Some darn thing or another.
But as it turns out, Destiny, who's I guess a popular YouTuber, which means he's still on YouTube, which means, well, you know what that means.
So... Destiny has...
He decided it was a great idea to have an open marriage.
To have an open marriage.
Now, his wife has, I guess, Grand Canyon levels of cleavage.
She's pretty. And he is...
He's mid. Mid at best, in my humble opinion, right?
And so there's this general fantasy that men have about an open marriage, right?
That their lives are going to turn into a porn set.
It's just going to be all these women lining up to have sex with them, and their wife's just going to be...
Watching and excited. And I don't know what weird fantasy men have.
But open marriages, especially if your wife is very attractive, I mean really only go one way.
Your wife has a lot of sex and you don't.
And then she ends up having no respect for you, paired bonding with someone else.
And I think that she ran off to Sweden with some guy.
So, yeah, it's really sad.
It's really sad.
Very predictable. But I don't think there are any kids involved.
Is that right? I don't obviously follow this stuff very much.
I don't mean to sound superior. I love gossip as much as your average 12-year-old girl, but actually more so.
But I haven't really been following this one, but I don't think there are any kids involved, right?
Oh, Josh, you used to have that fantasy?
Oh, yes, we'll have an open marriage and they'll just be lining up for me.
It's like, no, they won't. I mean, maybe if you're, I don't know, George Clooney or something, but He is one of the most intelligent people on the left, but God, is he a disaster?
There's no kids? Okay, well.
Then I don't fundamentally care.
I mean, I think it's interesting.
It's a good object lesson on what not to do, but I don't fundamentally care what goes on.
I don't really care. Oh, Destiny has a son, but not with this woman.
Is that right? Do I have that right?
Not with her? Who's done psych meds?
Is that right? I think Murray Rothbard referred to it as the great relearning or something.
Like, why do we need soap, man?
Soap is just as capital. Oh, we have scabies.
We all have fleas. It's like, okay, well, that's why you need soap, right?
All right. Oh, he has a kid.
He's talked about aborting others.
Yeah, can't do much with the local search.
I mean, certainly does need some improvement, but they've just done a whole upgrade of their
back end, I think, so...
He's talked crap about you, but never showed up to debate.
I think talking crap about me is just a rite of passage for some people.
Like you just have to talk crap about me in order to signal that you're on the right side of history or I don't know whatever nonsense people come up with.
But yeah, I don't take it particularly personally.
It's just something you have to do.
Quick question.
Quick question. Which creature has a higher percentage body fat, the average American or the average American pig?
Which creature do you think has a higher percentage body fat, the average American or the average American pig?
Pigs are lean! If they've worked out, yes.
They are hot to trot.
Because they have trotter.
Anyway, never mind. Never mind. Ah, it's too complicated.
You beautiful people. You're too pretty to be overly complicated to seal.
Kiss from a rose. So, I think the average American has a body fat of about, percentage of about 25%, and pigs are about 18.
Yeah, pigs are, they've gotten leaner, right?
They've gotten leaner. So, yeah, the average American has a higher percentage body fat than a pig.
And I think pigs are generally better at opening gates.
I think that's the only other statistic I remember reading, but I just thought that was, that was pretty something.
That was really something. Right, so let's see here.
Oh, COVID stuff is just too awful.
I love this meme.
It's never too late to follow your dreams.
Vlad the Impaler didn't even start impaling people until his mid-30s.
Goals, as my daughter would say.
Goals! It's very funny.
There's the sunbeam blinking white guy face.
My ancestors watching me use GPS to get somewhere I've been to 14 times.
But do you use GPS all the time?
Hit me with a Y or an N. I use GPS all the time.
I offload how to get places to the GPS. I don't care.
I just follow the directions.
I'm not going to memorize it because I already have a GPS, right?
So do you use GPS all the time?
Again, I have no shame about it.
I don't mind it. I don't think it makes me any less manly.
I just use GPS. If I got to go someplace...
I'll just use GPS. And I don't want to remember, right?
I mean, if I need to know my phone number, I can just go to About Phone and get my phone number.
Like, I just... I don't want to store things that I don't have to store.
I offload all of my social engagements to the wife cloud.
You know that wife thing?
What are we doing this weekend?
This is a great meme of a guy doing a stretch.
It's like me stretching and getting ready to ask my wife what we're doing this weekend for the 14th time.
Something like that. So yeah, offload your social stuff to your wife.
You use it for traffic? Yeah, I think that's important.
That's important as well. If I can offload it, I will absolutely offload it with no shame, no problem, whatsoever.
I mean, I guess my one weakness is I have a bunch of tools.
I'm not sure I know how to use them all.
Don't ever tell my wife. I just have a bunch of tools.
I don't really know how to use them all. I'm not even sure which end to hold some of them.
But there it is. It will kill your local knowledge.
When GPS doesn't work, it will be a problem.
Okay. Yeah.
You know, I just...
I want to offload to other things what I don't need to.
I've saved my own numbers of content and called it me.
That's right. All right.
I remember as a kid...
I, as a little kid, a three or four, I had the belief that whatever number you wanted to call was written on the phone.
Like, I wanted to call my friend, and I kept calling my friend, and I'm like, how long can this guy be busy?
And then finally somebody pointed out that that was my own phone number.
Like, you wrote your own phone number on the phone?
I'm like, well, why would you write your own phone number on the phone?
I mean, you already know your own phone number.
That doesn't make any sense. Why don't you do something useful?
Like, my friend, I want to call.
That makes sense. Anyway.
People don't memorize phone numbers anymore.
Quite right. And why would you?
Why would you? I mean, hit me with a why if you've ever had to memorize logarithmic tables, slide tables.
What do they call them? Oh, God.
I can't even remember the name of it now.
Times tables, of course. We all remember that.
Slide rule tables.
Anyway. Thank you for the tip.
Hey, Steph, do you have any suggestions on where to go to meet a partner?
I've tried multiple sports teams with both sexes and no luck.
I don't want to go to bars, but other than maybe church, I don't know where else to try.
Well, I can tell you, but you won't like it.
Hit me with a Y if you have trouble meeting.
Slide rule. Slide rule.
I think from third to home base.
So, do you have a...
Hit me with a why? Do you have a why?
On... Tough times meeting girls.
Oh, boys. I mean, I can tell you how to do it.
But it's not going to be easy.
No, please don't do this Thailand-Vietnam sex tourist stuff.
No, no, no. No, don't do it.
Don't do it, man. Oh, my God.
Oh, my God. Please don't.
All right. Would you like to know how to pick up women?
What if you get arrested and have to call someone?
Okay. Well, if that's why you're memorizing stuff, you might want to live a little less of an edgy life.
Alright. I can tell you how to meet girls all over the place, all the time, no matter what.
And I say this because I've done it.
And I'm not trying to be some big, giant, uber stud muffin here.
I do have muffin, but it's more of a middle-aged muffin top.
But I have done this dozens of times, and it works every time.
Met my 30-plus year sweetheart in college.
Well, that's annoying. Oh, are you having trouble meeting girls?
Well, I'm at my long-term...
I mean, my God, man. That's a little annoying.
I mean, people are struggling here and you're like, well, I'm fine.
I've got 30 years with my college.
How about having some compassion for the people who are having some trouble rather than flexing how great everything is for you?
Oh, are you having trouble losing weight?
I just, I can't even seem to get rid of my abs just by walking up the stairs.
It's like, oh man, that's a little bunchable, isn't it?
These generally people are post-college.
Vegan says, thank you, Steph, for everything.
You've helped me more than you could imagine.
I appreciate that, and thank you for the tip.
Why would you denigrate a suggestion that has actually worked?
Because it's obvious. If you're in college, of course it's easy to meet women.
Alright? And also, I'm going to assume that the people who are having trouble are people outside of college.
Hit me with a Y if you're...
I mean, I could be wrong about this. Obviously, it's just about anything I could be wrong about.
Even my own name could be faked.
But hit me with a Y if it already occurred to you to meet girls in school or college.
Or... Hit me with a Y if you're past that scene, right?
Because this guy's saying, like, I'm trying to join sports teams and so on, right?
So he's post-college, right? Easiest time I met girls was in college.
Yeah, you're literally jammed together, right?
Post-college is hard mode.
Yeah, absolutely. So we're talking about post-college.
So everybody's post-college.
I knew all of that. So saying, well, I met the girl in college.
It's sort of like somebody saying, you know, what's the best way to learn Japanese?
It's like, well, the best way to learn Japanese, I found, is to be raised in Japan by Japanese-speaking parents.
It's just so easy. It's kind of annoying, right?
Yeah, college has more women than men, particularly in the softer sciences, right?
The cleavage scientists, the canyon wherein objective knowledge goes to die.
So yeah, obvious solution is obvious.
And anyway, so I know the audience.
And so saying, well, I met my 30-year plus, blah, blah, in college, just kind of annoying, right?
So, is there no one here in college or college age back at Sewell's?
No. No, generally not.
Generally not. Yeah, I mean, Ira, I've been working this crowd over for years, man.
Years! I know them like the back of my...
Oh, my God! There's something on my hand!
Anyway. No, that's fine.
It's just, you know, maybe ask before flexing how easy it is for you.
Maybe ask other people, you know?
I'm having trouble climbing stairs.
Well, I just do it two at a time.
It's easy. Well, I'm in a wheelchair.
Ooh. Yeah, just, you know, read the room a little bit first, right?
Locals mug spotted. That is correct.
That is correct. Anyway.
Alright, if you want to wife, join a volleyball club.
I can tell you...
Now listen, I say this, I've got a bit of an accent, I'm not the worst looking guy in the known universe, so take this with some advice.
Practice your smile until you look mostly human.
Don't be the clown who sat on a cactus.
So if you want to meet girls...
Let's say you're at a coffee shop, right?
And there's a girl who's working alone.
She's on a computer. There usually are, right?
Alright, couple of girls there and right what you do is what do you do?
You can give her a big smile and say it's the seat taken or Or, hi, or...
Not what you're working on.
That's a bit too forward and that's kind of right.
But just you give her a big smile and you say something.
That's it. Does it really matter what?
No. Absolutely.
It absolutely is going to rain. I think it's going to rain.
But I might make it to my car. Okay.
Whatever you say. Hand them a business card.
Hand them a penis outline card that they just have to keep unfolding.
Like, what's that old joke about the guy with the 17-inch penis?
He just, at the end of a long day, he just likes to get into a hot bath and unwind, man.
Just... Anyway, you get it.
No, not provide some...
Just smile.
How you doing? Oh, just give them a smile.
You don't even have to say anything.
Just give them a smile.
And see if they smile back, see if they nod, see anything, right?
Just, you put out a tiny feeler and you see if they smile back.
That's all. Right?
You can, if you're in a grocery store and you're looking at yogurt and there's a woman standing by you, just give her a smile.
Say, I just can't decide.
I can't decide. But I'm deciding on you right now.
A man leave a note on her car.
Nope. Wouldn't do that.
Wouldn't do that. Very nice.
Impressive. I get the reference.
No, just a smile works wonders.
Do you like her? Give her a smile.
And Steph could have been a manipulative life coach.
Well, just give her a smile.
And if she looks sourly at you back, then that's fine.
Leave her in peace or whatever, right?
And if she gives you a smile back, then say hi.
Like, just some women you do that to and they just look hostile.
Okay, great. There's nothing around.
I mean, so? Ask her, what do you suggest?
Ask her, what do you suggest?
Seems many people are meeting on apps in this day and age.
Well, I mean, that's kind of obvious, right?
So, honestly, person-to-person eye contact and a smile.
A confident person will smile back.
A confident woman does not fear talking to a man in public, in my humble opinion, right?
A confident woman, especially, I mean, it's a public place, there's security cameras, a confident woman does not fear talking to a man in public.
If she's, like, hostile or really paranoid or whatever, I mean, my sympathies, that's a terrible way to live, but...
It's probably not someone you want to get muchly involved with, if that makes sense.
Women have lost social skills, I've noticed.
Really? You think it's only women who've lots of social skills?
So...
Yeah, so as far as where to meet a partner, I mean opportunities are everywhere.
Uh...
And if you just give a smile, and if the woman doesn't smile back, what have you lost?
Is it weird to message a woman after a few months from an initial convo?
Is it weird to message a woman after a few months from an initial convo?
Women and boyfriends are often very forward, and then I have to back away.
But that's fine. See, let's say you talk to some woman, and within five minutes she mentions her boyfriend, right?
So what? I mean, I get it's a little bit disappointing, but you've now had more practice smiling at a woman and striking up a conversation.
Told the gal I liked her earrings and she winced.
Saw her at a different store and she told me thanks.
She said she was having a bad day, right?
Oh, so, is it weird?
This is a question, right?
Hey, we can do dating stuff if you like.
Is it weird to message a woman after a few months from an initial conversation?
It is. It is.
So if you have a woman, you have some initial conversation and you don't
message her for a few months, what does she assume has happened?
What does a woman assume has happened if you haven't talked to her for a couple of months?
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What does a woman assume?
Now, for men, it's not like a woman's head is an asylum in general, right?
But it's not exactly the opposite of an asylum either, right?
So women see special providence in the fall of a sparrow.
They see dragons in clouds.
They read tea leaves.
They have Ouija boards.
Women are constantly looking for patterns, and women have to try and figure men out to commit their entire life to based on small, scant, and incomplete information.
Right. DJ, I think you're bang on.
Yeah, so you were interested in someone else, you pursued that other person, it didn't work out, and now she's your fallback girl.
Second pick, she knows it's probably even worse than that.
You didn't contact her because you were pursuing some other girl, didn't work out with the other girl, and she's your fallback girl.
Right?
And there's only one way to overcome that.
There's only one way to overcome that.
And that's what we're going to do.
We're going to do a little bit of a math problem.
And we're going to do a little bit of a math problem.
How do you get back in contact with a woman after a couple of months, given that she's going to assume she's low status?
How do you do that?
How do you bypass that? How do you deal with that?
If you can't be with the one you love, love the one you're with.
Yeah, love the one you're with, that's right.
Not a great song. I mean, it's a good song, but it's not a great message.
She'd probably just forget who you are also.
If you're approaching a woman and she feels low status because of your approach, like you haven't talked to her for a couple of months, what do you do?
A big ass mating display.
I don't know if the Latina strategy is the way to go.
No, you grovel.
You grovel so that you restore her status.
And honestly, if you haven't messaged a woman in a couple of months, you should grovel.
Tell her something reminded you of her.
Nope. Nope, because then that's just coincidence.
She needs to feel wanted. What's with the trend of 15 to 19-year-old boys all looking the same?
Bleached hair, baggy pants almost falling down their ass, earrings, and all talk the same.
They all look like goons. This is in Iceland, by the way.
It's the broccoli hair, isn't it?
Like, short on the sides, poofy on the top.
It's like the... It's the opposite of going bald.
Like, bald is like hair on the side, not on the top.
They want no hair on the side and poof on the top.
Broccoli hair should be illegal, but we don't run the state, so...
19-year-old boys have a tough time these days because the teenage girls in general are not friendly towards masculinity because they're told about toxic masculinity and patriarchy and so on.
So the strategy for the teenage boys appears to be, as far as I can tell, to look as much like BTS and No need to shave boys as humanly possible.
In other words, to push the masculine look as close to either eunuch or feminine without totally going over, right?
So it's tough.
If a boy is openly masculine, a lot of girls will look at that askance, and it tends to be kind of a negative.
It's like the soy boy face.
You know, like that soy boy face which is a grimace of I'm harmless, right?
The I'm harmless grimace, right?
To be overly excited about MetaQuest 3 or something.
I'm harmless! I'm harmless.
It's a way of showing submission.
So, a lot of girls, of course, want to be showing submission, the younger girls, because they associate any kind of assertiveness with toxicity and dominance and all that kind of nonsense, right?
So, I mean, if I were teenager, it's easy for me to say now, but I wouldn't let that change a thing.
Be who I am and see who likes it.
I mean, be who you are and see who likes it.
You can't go wrong. Because there's nothing better that you can do, right?
Be yourself and see who likes it.
Is soy boy face new?
Yes. Yes.
Well, soy boy faces also new because testosterone levels have absolutely crashed.
Like, men have lower testosterone now than their grandfathers.
Like, 20-year-old men have less testosterone than their grandfathers had.
Like, we do not do well in captivity as a species.
We do not do well in excessive comfort.
We do not do well with the unearned.
It's 70% of YouTube thumbnails.
The soy reaction faces. Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, Alexander Grace has one with a woman who's like, you know, just like wide-eyed and easily startled.
And yeah, it's just a way of saying, I'm giddy and excited and completely harmless.
Completely harmless. Jordan Peterson has these sort of death stare down.
It's sort of salt and eats and death stare from beyond the gulag down.
And I think that's why people respond to that kind of stuff.
But you wouldn't see Andrew Tate doing that kind of stuff, right?
Yeah, the soy reaction face is just a way of signaling harmlessness and all that stuff.
Lieutenant Dan. That's not Tropic Thunder, isn't that?
Last like a box of chocolates.
You never know what you're going to get.
God, that was a stupid line.
Life's like a box of chocolates.
You never know what you're going to get.
Like, what are you talking about?
They literally have it printed on the lid.
You flip the lid over and you know exactly what you're going to get.
I just never understood that.
It really bothered me. Is it the same for unusually young faces?
I haven't appeared to have aged since high school.
I don't know. I don't know, but I do know that boys are looking eternally and increasingly younger and younger and they seem to be aging slower and slower.
A large proportion of lower T in men explained by a lack of physical exercise and competition along with increase in excess body weight.
Yeah, it's...
What was it?
There was some... You may remember this, but there were a bunch of young, quote, men who had their T-levels checked, and they worked at, I don't know, Salon or some hyper-egalitarian website, and, I mean, it was just sad. I mean, their T-levels were lower than Unix.
It was just really awful.
It was just really, really sad.
And, of course, you know, normally there'd be a panic about this kind of stuff, but nobody seems to care.
Success is not great for a status society.
Success is not great for a status society.
Is it possible to have a relationship with a woman with an ego and excessive pride?
Buzzfeed, it was Buzzfeed, that's right.
Is it possible to have a relationship with a woman with an ego and excessive pride?
Well... Well, it's Spider-Man, right?
Have they ever hired a Spider-Man who looks like he could grow a beard?
Ever? Have they ever hired a Spider-Man?
I know he's supposed to be a high school boy, but when I was in high school, there were guys who had beards.
Do smoking rates contribute to all this?
Are your observations on this influenced by being in Canada, a particularly feminized country?
Yeah, I mean, I'm sure if I was in Slovakia or Hungary, it might be a different matter, but No.
Yeah, the girls seem...
It's the Justin Bieber thing. Like, the girls seem to go crazy for the pretty boys, right?
These days. This didn't used to be the case.
It used to be like Cary Grant.
It used to be Gary Cooper. It used to be the Duke.
It used to be even Spencer Tracy, although he was never much of a sex symbol.
But, yeah, it used to be like men.
Now it's like boys.
It's a little creepy, to be honest with you.
Yeah, Tobey Maguire. Yeah, everyone looks like a hobbit.
They're all baby-faced Spider-Men.
you Yeah, they're all baby-faced Spiderman.
That's really sad.
And this is part of the role reversal, right?
So women have been taught to be tough.
Which means that they say they want men that they can push around, but they fantasize about men who push them around.
Because women have been, in a sense, ordered to be Uh, macho, right?
Then, they say that they want a man they can push around, but deep down, the pendulum has swung to the other side and they want men to push them around.
Obviously, I'm not saying push around women, I'm just saying that there's no other way to explain the success of Fifty Shades of Grey.
Right? Spider-Man is meant to be very young.
Oh, I get that. I understand that.
He's supposed to be in his late teens, right?
Mid to late teens, but... Thor, Batman, etc.
still macho.
I don't know, man.
I'm not sure about that.
There's a kind of body narcissism that hyper-muscular men have that does not appear masculine to me.
There's a sort of, you know, the flexing in the mirror and looking at all the other guys in tight pants and muscle tees and so on.
This body narcissism, it smacks to me of a kind of femininity more than it does hyper-masculinity.
Because it's too body-obsessed.
And I view, rightly or wrongly, I view body obsession as more female than male, as evidenced by the fact that there are many more female anorexics than there are male anorexics.
I mean, if you look at the guy who plays Thor, he's got, like, long hair, and he's super muscular, and he's mild-mannered to some degree, except when he gets angry, of course, right?
right but there is a certain amount of just girlishness about that that kind of stuff.
So.
Arnold!
Yeah, well, Arnold is a sort of gravitational force all unto himself, but I never viewed Arnold as particularly masculine myself.
Yeah, definitely more masculine.
My husband...
yeah, high testosterone men are inconvenient to those in power, so if
they keep people narcoleptic with, you know, porn and video games and movies and
sedentary lifestyles and no particular challenges, they've taken away a cohort of those who might otherwise
want change.
really, really want change.
I mean, how else can we really understand the sympathy and affection that women have for hyper-patriarchal ideologies that they want to take over, right?
That's just bizarre, right? Yeah, I mean, to me, anybody who...
Anybody who failed the COVID test, so to speak, and I don't mean necessarily that they took the vaccine, but who were like, you know, Arnold was like, fuck your freedoms, right?
I mean, there's a whole list of these uber cucks.
I don't know if that was just the price of being in Hollywood or whatever, right?
But, you know, anybody who failed that test, who wanted force, To inject other people or wanted to strip other people of their human rights who had questions about these treatments or these therapeutics.
If you failed that test, it's just, you know, it's like what they say about a reputation.
You can spend your whole life building it up and you can destroy it in five minutes.
Like Arnold's got a new book out.
Sorry, I didn't mean to laugh. He's got some new book out about how to get things done in life.
And it's like, yeah, but...
I guess the old school Austrian and you came out of a COVID. Like, I don't know why anybody would care about what he would have to say.
That's just such a foundational test to fail.
And it's such an obvious one, isn't it?
So yeah, Arnold didn't pass that test as most people didn't pass that test.
And it wasn't even a particularly tough test.
And again, I'm not talking about taking the vaccine or not.
I'm just talking about wanting other people's lives destroyed if they didn't.
We get it. You're neurotic.
You're a hypochondriac, which again, I associate with feminine, rightly or wrongly, probably because of my mom.
But yeah, I just, it's really sad.
Anthony says, I was one of the 15% in Canada who didn't take the vax.
This country has a uniquely cucked population.
I just...
Now, I have so many theories about that, and I'll talk about those another time.
Well, the solution is taken by so many men is to find a woman from other less progressive areas of the world.
Well... If men and women can't lead each other back to masculinity and femininity, I don't know what future there is, honestly.
But, you know, this is all, it's all, sorry, I hate to say it's all nonsense, but it is kind of all nonsense, right?
Gender roles can be whatever you want to be if you're printing all the money in the known universe, right?
What about people who love to argue?
Is that a fairly feminine behavior?
No! No, no, no, no, no, no.
Oh my gosh.
People who love to argue.
Is that a feminine behavior?
No, no, no. Argument is squarely in the realm of masculinity.
which you know they're wonderful female debaters and all of that but in general
argument is squarely in the realm of masculinity I mean there are men who nag but women don't generally
argue or debate to get what they want
They either use the positive economics of sexual access or the negative economics of nagging.
And again, 51-49 men to women, who knows, right?
But it's a little bit more female, I think.
Women tend to be more passive-aggressive, slightly manipulative, that kind of stuff, right?
Hey, you know what? I'm going to mention this if you haven't.
If you haven't listened to my book, The Future, I was just listening to it last night.
Damn, it's fun. It's really good.
You should really listen to my novel, The Future.
It's my outlook for what it's worth, and I'm very, very happy and proud of it, and I hope that you will check it out.
All right, let me get to other questions.
Oh, I saw this guy named Dan Go on X. 20 fitness rules for men and women over 40.
Your focus in the gym is injury prevention first and results second.
The older you get, the more smart you must train.
And that's Rachel. I just sort of wanted to point that out.
That it is really, really important to work to not injure yourself as you get older.
Oh, I thought this was interesting.
And listen, if you've got questions, comments...
Let's see here...
Let me just get your questions here...
Why won't some people pay attention to detail when it's important?
For example, at work, when I send an email with a list of five things to fix, they respond to only two or three.
Then I have to write again.
It's annoying. I specifically try to be concise in my work emails.
Is that a way of projecting their suppressed emotions onto me?
It has happened even with some clients.
They ignore an issue and then get annoyed when you want to get all the answers, which is supposed to be in their own interest.
Well, if you send a list of five things to fix, most people's attention span won't make it past two or three.
They literally will forget.
Like, it's not even personal.
It's not negative. It's not hostile.
They literally can't. Like, people's attention span is just completely cratered.
And, I mean, I'm not saying mine is perfect either.
I mean, I've Trying to finish a book takes a little while sometimes, but I do try and work with the long format stuff so that I really dig in, like call-in shows or, you know, I did 11 hours plus on the French Revolution.
I work on the long form stuff, but most people, they've got completely fragmented consciousness and they don't have any throughput.
They don't have any consistency and concentration.
They literally, it would just evaporate in their minds and they'll drift away from it, so.
Great statement about men and women leading each other back to healthy gender roles.
So clear. Yeah. You need to be led back to masculinity by a woman and a woman needs to be led back to femininity by a man.
That's the trust thing, right?
Injury prevention is always a high priority when training in my circles.
That being said, natural bodybuilding, non-competitive, is safer than casual or professional running
and jogging.
My attention span is pretty bad, even on movies.
Well, but movies are also too predictable.
I have too many questions!
Well, thank you for the tip. I appreciate that.
Feel free to ask away. All right.
Here's something else I found that I thought was of interest to you.
I hope so.
I hope so. So, if a girl wants an older man...
What's that called?
How do people characterize a girl, a woman who wants an older man?
How is that characterized?
What do people say?
No. Didn't say a wealthier man.
It's not gold digging. A girl wants an older man.
That's called a preference.
She has a preference for an older man.
If a man wants a younger woman, what is that?
Right? What is that?
What is it when a man, what is it called when a man wants a younger woman?
That's right. It's called creepy and immature.
Right? So if a woman wants an older man, it's just a preference.
If a man wants a younger woman, it's creepy, man!
It's immature. Okay.
If a girl doesn't want a short man, what is that called?
That is called a preference.
A girl who doesn't want a short man, that's a preference.
If a man doesn't want an overweight woman, what is that call?
you All right. Now, if a girl or a woman wants a dominant man,
what's that called?
A girl who wants a man who's kind of dominant, what is that called?
That's called a preference.
So, a woman who wants a dominant man is called a preference.
A man who wants a submissive woman is, what is that?
A woman who wants a dominant man, that's a preference.
A man who wants a submissive woman, what's that?
Misogyny! That's right.
That's right. When a girl sets a boundary in a relationship, a woman sets a boundary in a relationship, what's that called?
What is it called?
When a girl sets a boundary in a relationship.
Yeah, Jane Fonda, 85, only wants to date 20-year-olds.
Hates old skin. A girl who sets a boundary is empowered, and she's assertive.
If her boyfriend tries to set a boundary, what is he?
If her boyfriend tries to set a boundary, what is he?
We all know the C word.
What is he? Tries to set...
If the girl says, I don't want you texting other girls, she's stating what she wants, she's empowered, she's assertive.
If the guy says, I don't want you dressing too skimpy when we go out, he is what?
Hit me with a Y if you'd be interested in what I think is an interesting parenting question.
Hit me with a why if you would like to be hit with an interesting parenting
question.
Oh thanks, Ara. Good.
It's sped up the response time.
All right. So this is a mom's letter to her son.
This is a mother's letter to her son.
Now, let me see if I can...
Can I save this?
Yes, I can. I will post this so that you can see it, because I think it's...
I think it's interesting.
A word in your ear, from father to son.
All right, here we go. Father to son.
All right. I will give you the letter here.
You can read along with it if you want.
I think it's quite interesting. Alright, I am at 46.
If I want to add this in to the...
I'm at 46 minutes.
Alright, so it goes like this.
Dear Aaron...
Since you seem to have forgotten you are only 13 and I'm the parent...
And that you won't be controlled, I guess you will need a lesson in independence.
Also, as you threw in my face that you are making money now, it will be easier to buy back all the items I bought for you in the past.
If you would like your lamp slash light bulbs or access to the internet, you will need to pay your share of costs.
Rent, $430.
Electricity, $116.
Internet, $21. Food, $150.
Also, you will need to empty the trash Monday, Wednesday and Friday, as well as sweep and vacuum those days.
You will need to keep your bathroom clean weekly.
You need to keep your bathroom clean weekly, prepare your own meals and clean up after yourself.
If you fail to do so, I will charge you a $30 maid fee for every day I have to do it.
If you decide you would rather be my child again instead of my roommate, we can renegotiate terms.
Love, Mom!
So, what do you think?
What do you think about this?
What does she do? I don't know what that means.
I don't know. What does it matter?
What she does. How passive-aggressive to write a letter to your son.
Sweeping and vacuuming the house three times a week sounds insane to me.
I'm sure she will have a great relationship with her son when he's an adult and moves out.
What love? Punishments, they tend to backfire.
Love, Mom. Me and my roommate do half the chores each.
What? What does that have to do with anything?
My neighbor has two rabbits!
Okay. Bullying sounds kind of abusive, contradictory.
F off, Mom. So many parents are like this today.
Single, Mom. Yeah, well, this is obviously an escalation and so on, right?
But what do you guys think about it?
And if you think your son is going to move into a conference place next year, it sounds like she wants him emasculated and dependent on her, right?
Yeah, I view this as particularly tragic.
I view this as particularly tragic.
Why is she telling her son to do everything and take on all the chores?
No, she's not doing that, to be fair.
You will need to keep your bathroom clean weekly, prepare your own meals.
No. Child doesn't have a choice to leave, deserves more respect.
It's bullying and abusive.
Okay, but why? If the mother wasn't taskically throwing this in the boy's face...
It actually would work if it was rationally negotiated.
It's a very positive thing for the boy to start taking ownership and quote grow into independence
She wants to be needed I don't know about that.
She wants to be needed. She chose to create him.
She says she won't control him but is trying to control his behavior with a carrot and stick.
No, she's saying, look, if you won't let me control your behavior then you claim to be independent and you also say you're making money so you don't need my money so I guess you can start being independent which means paying rent.
It's abusive because she's asking for money back.
But why? Why?
So, I think her argument is, if you're going to pretend that I'm not your parent, I'm not going to treat you as my son.
I think it's giving off a false sense of adulthood, a false reality of adulthood, thereby preventing the child from gaining independence.
Asking for money back is not a rational point of negotiation.
Ah, but just saying that doesn't make it so.
Sure it is. If you lend someone money and they don't give it back, then asking for the money back is a rational point of negotiation.
Her husband could write the same letter to her and she would be offended.
Interesting. But the money was lent, was it?
No, and she's not asking for money back, in a sense.
She's saying, you have to pay bills.
If you're going to pretend to be independent of me as an adult, as a parent, in other words, if you're not going to treat me as a parent, I'm not going to treat you as a child.
I'm not going to treat you as my child, and therefore you're a roommate, and therefore you have to pay bills.
I'm not saying whether we agree or not, but we can sort of follow the reasoning, right?
God, this sounds like my mom.
Every time I struggle for independence, she starts abusing me, telling that I never do anything.
Well, hopefully this will be helpful.
You don't struggle for independence.
You take it or you don't. There's no struggle for independence.
It's petty. But again, you guys are just saying stuff without making arguments.
He can't make that decision because he's too young to understand what making that decision means emotionally and financially for him by treating someone he needs as a mom becoming a roommate.
No, and she's spelling out what that means, right?
She is punishing him for the natural course of life he is going through.
Autonomy. She should be grateful and happy he wants independence.
This is normal and he is growing into a man.
My mom, 100%.
Children have no obligation to treat parents as parents or in another fashion.
Treat a parent to her means question nothing.
Well, that's not in the document.
She's obligated to take care of her son, but her son isn't obligated to listen to her.
She doesn't see this. She's willing to break the child parent bond over her son telling her about how he's gaining independence.
Well, we don't know what caused this, right?
Where is the father? Boom, boom, boom, boom.
Yes. Yes, where is the father?
Where is the father? We're good to go.
Maybe the resonance in her letter bypasses any rational arguments because she's reactive toxic and is probably saying things she won't live up to anyway.
Passive-aggressive verbiage without or where's the father?
Yeah, I hear what you're saying, but if you're going to evaluate things, my suggestion is just focus on the text itself because everything else you make up without information is not empirical, right?
She's also asking for the money for all the stuff she previously bought for him.
That stuff was owed to him as part of basic care.
He does not owe his mother for rent when he was five.
Yeah, no, she's saying going forward, right?
She's saying you've got to pay rent, 430, electricity 116, internet 21, and food 150.
So she's not saying you owe me back to rent when I was five.
I know it's a little unclear. Do you want the answer in S for syllogisms or R for rants?
S for syllogisms or R for rants?
My mom was like this too.
Just nuts. How many of us are saying this?
Give you a guess if you think my dad was around when I was 13.
Did she post that letter or did he?
I think she posted it.
R for rants? S for syllogism.
Oh, 50-50.
Oh, it's going to win.
Oh. No, she wouldn't say it's blackmail.
She would say that it's consequences.
I'm a sucker for R. Oh, it looks like we're pirating.
Alright, well, there are a lot of people who want syllogism.
So, alright, first question to ask.
If your child is not listening to you, if your child doesn't do what you want or respect what you say, what's the first question you should ask?
What's the first question you should ask if your child is not listening to you?
What is that?
Question you must ask!
What?
How am I treating them?
Eh, generic.
You should always ask that no matter what, right?
Am I listening to them?
Nope. Nope.
Nope. Nope. Did I listen first?
What have I done wrong? All too generic.
Why don't I have what?
Why don't I have what? Why don't I have?
If my child is not listening to me, why don't I have credibility?
Why don't I have credibility? Why is my child not listening to me?
When my daughter has a challenge, she comes to me and asks for my advice, because my advice is usually helpful and so on, right?
Why is my child not listening to me?
Why don't I have credibility?
Why does this mother not have credibility?
Why does this child not have credibility?
I can tell you why.
It's all over the document.
And it's one word.
One letter.
Why does she not have any credibility with her son?
No, handwriting is very neat.
Why doesn't she have any credibility?
Alright, I will start reading it.
You tell me where I know why she doesn't have credibility.
Dear Aaron, since you seem to have forgotten you're only 13 and I'm the parent and that you won't be controlled, I guess you will need a lesson in independence.
What's the word?
What's the word, people?
Aye.
Since you seem to have forgotten you are only thirteen and I'M the parent and aren't we
the parents, I guess you won't be controlled.
I guess you will need a lesson in independence, not we.
Not we. She's a single mother, right?
She's a single mother. She's a single mother.
Now, as a single mother, who's most likely paying her bills?
Right? As a single mother, who's most likely paying her bills?
And not all of them. She could have a job or whatever, right?
But... Right?
You see it now, right? Yeah.
It's a combination of the government and her ex-husband, right?
It's a combination of the government and her ex-husband.
Now, let's say the ex-husband is paying her spousal support, alimony, child support, or whatever, right?
Now, does she do what her ex-husband wants her to do because he's paying her bills?
Right? Or does she fight with her ex-husband a lot and not do what her ex-husband wants her to do even though he's paying her bills?
Does that make sense? So, when he refuses to be controlled by who pays the bills, it's because she's refusing to be controlled by the ex-husband who pays the bills, or by the government who pays the bills.
Could possibly be a widow.
We don't have context, but doubtful.
Yeah, okay. She's a single mother.
She's a single mother. So, in essence, she's asking of the son that which she is not compliant with herself.
Hypocrisy. Right. So, if she stayed home with her son, then somebody else is paying her bills.
And she's not conforming or complying to what that somebody else wants to get that money.
So, why would her son do it?
Or, or, or, let's say she's completely independent.
Somehow, magically, the one or two single mothers are completely independent.
And she worked when he was a baby.
So, she went to work.
Now, he didn't want her to go to work.
He wanted her to stay home with him, but she went to go to work for money.
And she's saying, well, I want to be independent.
I want to earn money and be independent.
Okay, so then he's got his money now and he wants to be independent.
He's doing what she did.
She's doing what he did. Why does the 13-year-old need to work?
13 year olds want to work, then it's good for them to work.
So, the first question you always need to ask as a parent is what behavior have I
modeled that is producing this mindset in my child?
Also, if she couldn't keep his father around, then she's bad at negotiating, right?
She's bad at negotiating. So why would he want to negotiate with someone who's already proven that they're bad at negotiating?
They suck at negotiating.
In fact, they're so bad at negotiating, the entire family was thrown into chaos and poverty because she couldn't negotiate successfully with this boy's father.
You see what I mean?
Why on earth would you want to negotiate with someone who's so bad at negotiating you lost
your father?
Divorced parents have no credibility.
You're not divorcing your partner, you're divorcing credibility.
Don't shoot the messenger, it's just a fact.
Let's say you have a kid, at 25 you get divorced at 35, right?
So when your kid is 15, he's saying, well, holy crap.
I'm still half the age that you were, give or take, when you made absolutely terrible decisions.
So if you were twice as old as me and making absolutely terrible decisions about who to marry and how to maintain a relationship or how to maintain a marriage to keep my father around, if you were twice my age and still fucking up royally, why would I listen to you?
You were literally twice my age and you were still completely screwing everything up terribly, robbing me of a father.
Why would I listen to you?
When I'm 15, when you were 35 and destroying our family.
You can't maintain an adult relationship.
You can't keep your word.
You vowed before God to be together until the end and you couldn't even maintain that.
You don't keep your word.
You don't keep your promises.
You don't keep your vows. You can't be negotiated with.
You can't work things out.
You're immature. You're petty.
You're resentful. You're vengeful.
You're ridiculous. She says, I said that one time to my mother.
You have no credibility. You are divorced.
Stay out of my marriage. Right.
Rights.
Right.
If you want to be independent you have to pay your own bills says a single mother who did not pay her own bills.
And demanded independence.
I mean, come on. Oh my gosh.
It's so hypocritical, it actually makes my stomach turn a little.
Found the news article for this letter.
The mother is indeed a single parent who uses an alias because she was abused.
Yeah. Of course she was.
Of course she was! Of course she was.
Bet you it wasn't the abuse it showed.
It was emotional abuse.
He had boundaries.
Right. So, I told you she was a single mother, and she's got the writing of a 12-year-old, but anyway.
So, yeah, she was a single mother.
Okay, so let's say she was abused, right?
Okay. And let's say it wasn't just like, he wouldn't do what I said.
Let's, you know, let's say she was genuinely abused.
Okay. So, let's say that she got out of her abusive marriage.
This kid is 13, right?
Let's say she's 30. Let's make it easy.
We'll give her as much benefit of the doubt.
So, she's 30, and she ran away from an abusive man, right?
So, she has no credibility with her kid.
How are you going to tell me what to do at 13 when at 30 you had to flee a violent man you chose to date, get
engaged with, marry and have children with and live with?
Women's power is convincing everyone they're powerless.
Nope! No.
No, no, no. No.
The women are corrupted by the state.
Everyone gets corrupted by violence.
Everyone gets corrupted by coercion.
Everyone gets corrupted by getting something for nothing.
They're just corrupted by the state.
It's not female nature. It's not.
Try this. Try all this without the government.
That could have worked. None of this is going to work, right?
You see actions have consequences.
If you want to be independent, you have to pay your own bills.
If you don't want to listen to reason, you have to pay your own bills.
now you take this because I got to run to the mailbox and make sure that your
scuzzy violent father sent me money dude does that make sense
and And I don't know what percentage of single mothers take out their anger at the absent father on the son, but it ain't zero.
It ain't zero, and it probably is closer to three to four hundred percent.
How much responsibility do you assign to the father?
Does he have any credibility if the mother is the one who unilaterally left?
Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh.
Sorry, I don't mean to laugh, my friend.
I'm glad you said what you said.
I'll tell you, I have a whole bunch of countdowns in my head, right?
I have a whole bunch of countdowns in my head, but I'll tell you one of the biggest countdowns I have in my head.
Maybe this is something you have as well.
One of the biggest countdowns I have in my head is 10, 9, 8, and it goes like sand through the hourglass.
It's like a countdown of 10, and it is, when a woman does something wrong, how long until someone pivots to the man?
When a woman does something wrong, how long until somebody pivots to the man?
What about the man?
Hehehehe Doesn't really work the other way around, right?
It doesn't... like when you say that a man cheated, how often...
Men do it, right?
Men do it for the most part. Women do it too.
Like, if a man cheats on his wife, how many women say, well, yeah, but she probably was not giving him any sex.
I mean, if there's no food at home, you go to a restaurant.
So women don't turn on women that way.
Men turn on men all the time.
It's really sad. It's like men and women are playing a soccer game.
Men pass to women. Women never pass to men.
Oh, look, we lose.
And when a woman is acting badly, men in general will pivot to the men.
Of course women will do it too, but they only do it because men, right?
From the article, speaking afterwards, the mom said she shamed her son to make a point and that she wasn't going to actually throw him out.
Nothing comes for free. She wrote a single mother saying, nothing comes for free other than the health care for my kid and the alimony and the welfare and the child support and the health care and the dentistry.
So, it was a false threat, right?
It was a false threat. Because women can share men, but men can't share women.
So that's just don't you just giving me dominoes So this woman I mean I knew that was the case
I know it's easy to say after somebody has said it, but I knew that was the case, right?
So this woman, who has no intention of following through with her rules, says, why don't you listen to my rules?
Hey, you can totally have this for free.
Hey, why don't you pay for it?
And how many times has this boy been through these false threats?
And you're going to, you better, right?
I mean, I remember my mom, I should love this, because it's a single mom, cursing away, right?
Not being able to follow through on punishments, right?
Because single moms are lonely and desperate for affection and attention, and so they can't be disliked by their children, usually so they can't follow through on threats.
So, unless the single, like, unless the eldest son, usually the eldest son is in this psychodrama with her ex-husband in her head, right?
So, my mom, I can't remember what she was upset with me for something or other, and she literally, I came home from school, she grounded me, At four o'clock, and then at six o'clock, she's like, let's go see a movie.
She was bored and wanted to go see a movie.
You're grounded! Ooh, popcorn.
Yeah, popcorn is, like, it's a butter, it's tasty, man.
Oh, that's very funny.
Is there anything worth looking at in the article as a whole?
Following through requires you own your words, which requires acceptance of consequences for your words and particularly your actions.
No credibility. Right. So she's saying, you need to have consequences for your actions, and in the thing that she's saying, there are no consequences for his actions.
So her son is accurately assessing the situation, and he's right.
And he's saying, there won't be any negative consequences for my actions, so why would I listen to you?
And she's actually saying, well, here's what you're going to have to pay, and you've got to do this, and she has no intention of following through or anything like that.
I can't stand these women that put that out there to humiliate their kids.
I rage when they do that stuff.
But you know why they do it?
Why did she post this letter?
Why did this woman post this letter with his name?
It's not full name, right?
This is very much my mom.
She constantly fought with me, but my young siblings got these sunshines out of their treatment, right?
Yeah, so why does she put this letter out?
Why?
Yeah, to get sympathy.
Yeah, of course. Crowd support, attention.
You go, girl. I understand.
Tough love. Slay.
Queen. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You go, right?
Mob validation. Affirmation from the other moms.
You hang in there. You be strong.
It's for his own good. Tough love, girl!
Right. She wanted sympathy, right?
Get the social credit score up, right?
So she's looking for sympathy and she's looking for validation.
And so she posts this and people say, Oh, you poor thing, right?
Oh, you poor dear. Oh my gosh, that's got to be so frustrating.
You hang in there. He'll learn.
He'll get better. He'll improve, right?
Nobody says, Good lord, why don't you have any credibility with this kid?
Did you know what credibility is?
I'm sorry, I know that's kind of an annoying thing to ask, but do you know what credibility fundamentally is?
So people are saying, set a boundary, set a consequence, apply it if necessary.
That's good parenting. Not just good parenting, immaculate parenting.
Teaching him a lesson. If the kid comes up with the money, then there are bigger problems than him running his mouth.
Good parenting, but I have a feeling there's no dad in the house.
Oh my gosh. Kid needed a reality check.
He got one!
Yeah.
Mom, always argue with the kids which just elevates the kid to the parents level, never
any teaching or mentoring the kids, just competition with the kids!
That's more, eh? Vitally necessary parenting.
Sometimes kids need to be put in their place.
By the looks of this letter, this kid needs to be reminded where they come from and where their place is.
Reality check. It's a nice way to give the kid a reality check.
Wonderful parenting. Wise parenting.
Loving parenting. I think it's good parenting.
Ideally, it wouldn't have been left to get to that point.
It's a good lesson to teach. Even if it's a little late in coming, that'll do it.
Well done to that lady, right?
No, credibility is utility.
An actual headline, this mother taught her bratty son a lesson for life with an epic badass letter.
Credibility is utility.
Credibility is utility.
If a doctor consistently cures your ailments and illnesses, he has credibility because he has utility.
Credibility is utility.
Right? If you go to a restaurant and you get a great meal at a good price every time you go there, the restaurant has great utility to you, and therefore you get, the restaurant owner has credibility.
The restaurant has credibility with you, right?
I mean, that's why there are fast food chains, however garbage they may be, at least it's predictable quality, right?
So credibility is utility.
If I had all these theories, but they never got put into practice, I wouldn't have any credibility with you.
The reason why what I talk about, I hope, has some credibility with you is it has utility for you.
Like there's clarity, there's relief, there's acknowledgement, there's truth, there's something you can do, there's some value, right?
If I provide utility to you, then I have credibility with you.
So whenever a parent doesn't have credibility with his or her child, it means that the child does not perceive the parent as providing utility.
Does that make sense? I don't want to over-explain it, but I also want to make sure that it makes sense as a whole.
Reliable utility. Well, yeah, consistent utility.
Like, why does my daughter come to me for advice on various social and whatever things, right?
Because I'm pretty good at that kind of stuff, and I provide her useful feedback that's helpful, right?
Right? Thanks, Mike.
Mike, I appreciate the tip. Thank you.
So she posted this because she wanted to get all this Boss Girl positive
feedback and nobody of course is asking her.
Like, if I was interviewing her, I'd be like, why do you think he doesn't listen to you?
If the mom had left such a letter but was still married to the father, would it be acceptable in your opinion?
Just curious. If she was still married to the father, she wouldn't have to write this letter.
Come on. Come on.
If you have a friend, if you have a friend who consistently gives you reasonably Good lottery picks, right? It doesn't really a million dollars, but it wins you 100 bucks, 500 bucks, 300 bucks, 200 bucks, whatever, right?
And he consistently gives you these numbers, right?
And he phones you up and he says, here are the numbers for tonight's lotto pick.
Will you listen to him? Will you do what he says?
Does he need to bully you?
Does he need to be aggressive with you?
If you have a friend who recommends movies or series or whatever and you like to watch and
Every single time he recommends a movie or a series. It's like the wire levels of great, right?
And you say, I'm really looking for something to watch.
He says, oh, you should try XYZ series, right?
Does he need to bully you?
Does he need to threaten you? No, because he's got proven utility.
He's right. He knows your tastes.
He's really good at picking these things.
He picks winning lottery tickets.
He knows exactly what's great for you to watch that you love.
You've got to listen to this band, man.
And you listen to the band like, oh my God, they're fantastic.
I love it. They're my new favorite band, right?
And he keeps doing this month after month.
He tells you, listen to this music.
It's fantastic and you love it.
Then when you're looking for new music, Right?
And your friend says, listen to this band.
Does he need to listen to this band or I'm going to charge you, man?
Listen to this band or I'm going to key your car.
You listen to this band or you're grounded.
You don't need to do that.
Does this make sense? I'm sorry to have me to laugh.
If the mother had earned the son's respect through reliable utility to the son, he comes
to his mother...
Sorry, I don't mean to laugh.
I'm not laughing at you guys.
It's just such an absurd situation to think about, right?
Can you imagine?
The kid comes to his mother.
He talks with her about something difficult and challenging, and he leaves the conversation enlightened, wiser, and in possession of very sensible, positive plan of action.
A very sensible and positive plan of action.
Does this make sense? Now, just out of curiosity, with your own parents, When you went to them with a problem, from minus 10 to it got worse, to plus 10 they had a great solution, when you went to your parents with a problem, or you even thought of doing it, where would you end up?
Minus 10 terrible, plus 10 great.
Where would you end up if you brought to your parents a challenging social or dating or work or some kind of problem, something that was beyond your capacity as a kid or a teenager, where would you end up?
Minus 10 to plus 10, Bad to good.
Zero! Okay.
Okay, fence-sitter. Minus ten, minus five, minus seven, minus eight, minus two.
Negative Googleplex, you mean.
Infinityplex. Right.
Minus nine. Minus four.
Right. So, the only value...
Your parents provided, oh, you got a plus six?
That's great. I stopped asking pretty young, minus eight, minus nine.
I never brought these questions to them.
Yeah, because you knew it would be bad, right?
So, Here we go.
Here we go. So you ended up with fantastic opposite parents, negative parents, right?
Like, you know, a negative times a negative is a positive, like minus 4 times minus 4 is 16.
Negative times a negative.
So you had to do opposite land.
You had to be upside down land.
Like there was this game I played on the old Atari 800 where sometimes you opened a chest and the trap was you got drunk and it reversed all of the joystick controls.
Right? So you were drunk.
And it was actually very clever, I thought.
It's something as simple as joystick input times minus one.
It would just reverse your joystick controls, right?
So you just had to learn to do the opposite, right?
So whatever your parents said, if you did the opposite, you're probably doing okay.
So you've got to put everything through.
Like, you know, back in the day before, I guess, digital photography, you had these negatives.
And people were very good at reading those negatives before they would print them into the actual picture, right?
Because you'd get this negative and then you'd use that as the basis for the actual picture.
Right, so they're a great example of what not to do.
Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, my mother was very pretty.
When she aged, she got a nose job, and she stayed slender, and so she got lots of male attention, but nobody ever wanted to commit to her.
You never keep a guy. So that was pretty obvious, right?
The external won't get you love or commitment, right?
Now, she didn't tell me that, but she demonstrated the opposite, right?
She didn't tell me, well, don't focus too much on the outside, because that's not going to get you love and commitment.
Inverse Kramer, yeah, kind of like, right?
It's just what not to do.
What not to do. So, if Aaron's mother had given him good advice, he would listen.
Right?
He would listen.
I printed from negatives, coincidentally had to think in color opposites to the words
I was writing.
I was writing in a way that was not a word.
Yeah, for sure. Or even black and white.
It all looks kind of weird and freaky, but you learn to read them, right?
You learn to figure out what's going to be a good picture just from looking at the negatives, right?
It's a weird skill to have, but you have to have it with bad parents, right?
And I know for sure that there's a young generation going through school that now believes that whatever is the opposite of what the teacher says is probably the truth.
It's just become inverse land, inverse world, right?
Like in Atlas Shrugged, when the only thing later on in the system collapsed, the only thing that people assumed was true was what the government was denying or saying was the opposite of truth, right?
So why is the kid not listening to his mom?
That's the question right?
Nobody's asking that question.
Why doesn't she have credibility? Why does Aaron dislike what she has to say?
Because he does not find her to have value.
She does not provide consistent utility to him.
That's the bad parenting. Now, you get to this nonsense of, I'm going to charge you rent.
I mean, there's such a complete failure of parenting that goes back so long, right?
It goes back so many years.
So many years. Like, I assume that you come by here on these glorious Friday nights, the Wednesday nights, the Sunday mornings, and so on, and you listen to shows, because I'm going to provide some utility, some value.
Nobody's forcing you to be here, right?
Right? I don't have to threaten you.
I'm working my butt off to provide maximum value given that your time is valuable and you have infinite options of what to do with your time.
Your time is valuable.
You have infinite options of what to do with your time, so I have to provide maximum value in whatever way I can.
And it's got to be new stuff.
It can't just be the same stuff over and over again.
Sorry, everyone's typing, but I can't see the responses.
Anyway, I just thought that was a very interesting letter.
Now, if you've got other questions, I've got one more, not quite as long, but one more
that I thought was quite interesting, which was a daughter, mother-in-law.
you A daughter-mother-in-law conflict that I thought was interesting, but I'm happy to answer whatever is on your mind.
You threaten me with the guns of awesome philosophy.
Yes. And my 57-year-old Bill Withers pseudo-biceps.
Fire away!
Hey, hey! Is it the one where she's eating in the video?
Yes, it is. I can give you the link to the video if you like.
I can give you the link to the video.
You can watch on Bitcoin to the moon.
Sooner or later. Sooner or later.
Alright, so this is what the woman says.
So I asked my mother-in-law one day if she'd watch my kids for 10 days.
Because I want to go away on this cool trap.
And she laughed at me.
She then said, you have to move closer to me so I can watch your kids.
And then maybe I'll actually help you.
So I said, well, you're showing me you won't help my kids if I live across the country.
Why would I move closer?
It makes no sense.
Anyways, I don't understand how selfish boomers are nowadays.
I'm not willing to help.
If you want to help and you want your kids closer to you, then help.
That's it. Thanks, great show.
Thank you very much. I appreciate that.
Tips, always welcome. Gratefully and humbly accepted.
Thank you. Grandkids aren't just a right, it's a privilege.
Right. What I think is interesting, so let's go back and go over what this woman says, because I do find this really fascinating.
I don't know if you watched it, right? So she says, so I asked my mother-in-law one day if she'd watch my kids for 10 days.
No. I'm confused about this.
Genuinely, I'm not playing like...
I'm genuinely confused about this.
What does this mean?
So, I was thinking she's a single mother.
Because she's not saying my kids not...
She says my kids not our kids.
Right? And then she says...
Because I want to go away on this cool trip.
I want to go on the way on this cool trip.
That's what she's saying.
What does this mean? What does this mean?
So, what's confusing to me, genuinely, I don't know what this means.
My kids, I want to go away.
So, if there's a father, if she's got a husband in the picture, then it would be, we want to go away, or if she wants to go away on a cool trip, her husband would take care of the kids, right?
So, it doesn't seem like there's a man or a husband in the picture.
But what's weird about that?
Why do I think...
Thank you for the tip while I was gone.
Why do I think...
That there has to be a husband in the picture, even though she keeps talking about, I, my kids, I want to go away on this cool trip.
She never says our or we.
So why do I think there must be a husband in the picture?
Yet she doesn't mention anything about her husband being in the picture.
Tell me why. No, it's not a stepmom situation.
Yeah, that's right, because she says mother-in-law.
Mother-in-law. So that's her husband's parents.
Now, if she's divorced or separated, she's a single mom, then why would that be the case?
Right? Why would the mother-in-law, maybe, I don't know, she shares custody or something like that, right?
But it's just kind of strange.
So it doesn't seem like there's a It doesn't seem like there's a husband in the picture.
The other thing too is that if there was a husband in the picture, it generally would be the husband who would ask his mother.
Does that make sense? Maybe she is illiterate or misspoke.
No, I don't think that's it. No, she's a smart woman.
She's an intelligent woman. I want to go away on this cool trip.
Now. And she laughed at me, right?
Okay, I don't believe it when people say that.
Oh, always with the widow stuff.
No, it's almost never a widow.
And then said, you have to move closer to me so I can watch your kids.
So the woman says, she literally says, and then maybe I'll actually help you, says the mother-in-law.
Why would I move closer?
It makes no sense. See, she says, oh yeah, she says, you're showing me you won't help my kids if I live across the country.
So she is in America, let's say.
She sounds American. So it's California to New York.
She's the opposite sides of the country, like a six-hour flight or whatever it is, right?
So it's this woman saying to her mother-in-law, you have to fly to my house and live here with my kids today.
For, I assume, 12 days, right?
Because you need to make sure there's no overlap.
She's got to get up early and go to the airport, right?
So she wants to go on a cool trip, and she wants her mother-in-law to fly to her across the whole country, live there for close to two weeks.
Why isn't she asking her own parents?
I don't know. Maybe they're dead, or I don't know.
But she's asking someone to come fly across the entire country, For 12 days or more, take care of the kids because she wants to go on a cool trip.
I'm probably missing something.
Maybe her husband is overseas in the military.
My only guess, I have no idea.
Okay, let's say her husband is overseas in the military.
Then she'd say, I want to go do a cool trip.
Can you ask your mom to take care of the kids, right?
The fact that she made that TikTok while eating just says it all.
No, I get that. So, it's not like the mother-in-law is across the street, right?
Now, the other thing, too, she's saying, I asked my mother-in-law if she'd watch my kids for 10 days, because I want to go on a cool trip, right?
Now, that's more than watching your kids.
Watching your kids is, I have to go to the grocery store, can you watch my kids?
You'd say that to the neighbor or something.
Like, she's two weeks to take care of my kids almost, right?
Now, she's asking only her mother-in-law, not her in-laws, right?
So why is she only asking her mother-in-law?
She's only asking her mother-in-law because her mother-in-law is either a widow or divorce or a single mother or whatever.
Now, this is an older woman, so maybe the mom's in her 60s or 70s.
Maybe the dad's dead.
It could happen, right? Ask my mother-in-law one day if she'd watch my kids for 10 days because I want to go away on this cool trip.
Now, there's a little bit of laughter from the older generation as well.
Make it a family trip with the kids.
Well, she doesn't want to do that because she wants a cool trip.
Now, when a woman wants to go away on her own on a cool trip, what does that mean?
What does that usually mean when a woman wants to go on a cool trip without her children?
What does that usually mean?
What's really going on?
What is a cool trip?
For a woman who wants very much to go away without her children.
Yeah, she's gone to sleep with someone.
I assume. No proof.
She's got some guy who wants to take her, all that kind of stuff.
No, she's got an affair.
She's got a boyfriend.
She's got someone, right? And she wants some strange...
She's going to drink and hoe it up.
Again, I don't know, right?
But she's traveling with Frank.
Probably, right? Now, again, you know, I mean, you're a mom, you want to go on some vacation with some guy, you know, whatever, right?
That's fine. But I'm not sure that if you're going on a cool trip, now it could be with the girls or whatever, but, you know, a woman who's away from home, who's on a cool trip with the girls, is probably going to be at least looking for some kind of hookup.
Again, I don't have any proof of this, just my, obviously, that would be my first guess.
It's all I know, right?
So I don't know for sure. But if you call up your mother-in-law because you want to go away on a sexcapade of some kind, or a potential sexcapade of some kind, Now, again, it could be, I don't know, something completely nothing to do with that, but my mother, when she would go away on a cool trip, it would always be either because of some guy, with some guy, in pursuit of some guy, or hoping to find some guy.
Again, my personal experience, not saying anything about this woman, I know for sure, but that would be my guess, right?
And the mother-in-law would know that.
So basically, she's saying, I want to go, the mother-in-law might interpret it as the daughter-in-law saying, I want to go and sleep with some guy who's not your son.
Oh, your mother did the same thing when you were a kid?
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. So she wants to go away on a cool trip.
She laughed at me. She said, you have to move closer so I can watch your kids.
Yeah. I'm not flying.
I'm not interrupting my life.
Flying across the country is a three-hour time change, right?
California, like from...
California time to EST is a three-hour time change.
That's tough. Three-hour time change is tough when you've got a bunch of kids to manage and take care of.
You've got to get up early. You've got a time change.
It's rough, right? And you lose the time, right?
So if you're normally getting up at seven in the morning, you're getting up at four o'clock in the morning, right?
So she is asking for...
The grandmother, sorry, to mother-in-law, the grandmother, to fly over, lose time, take care of kids, manage your life, manage it, take on all of the risk of taking care of kids, right?
And if this woman is old enough, the mother-in-law is old enough that the husband is dead, then she could be in her late 70s, early 80s, could be any number of things.
That's a lot to ask. That's a lot of liability.
That's a lot of challenge and all of that, right?
How the F do you leave your kids like that?
No worries, Jesus. Yeah, well, I get that.
I get that. She said, you have to move closer so I can watch your kids, right?
It's a big deal to ask someone to come and watch, to interrupt their life, come with a time change, get up three hours earlier than normal, have the responsibility for a bunch of kids for close to two weeks.
That's a big ask, right?
And she's not saying, I'm going to fly out with my kids and have them stay at your place, right?
Somebody says, I can only imagine that this is an established arrangement.
I know a few families where the grandparents visit from afar for extended periods throughout the year.
It just seems insane to us if this isn't something that the mother-in-law has done before.
Well, I don't know. And maybe I'll actually help you.
Yeah. So I said, well, you're showing me you won't help my kids if I live across the country.
Right. So now it's, you won't help my kids.
This is a switch, right?
So she wants to go on this cool trip, and suddenly it's about helping your kids.
Like, suddenly the kids, it's all about, it's not about helping me go on this cool trip to Deeville.
It's not about helping, it's about helping my kids.
You won't even help my kids.
It's like, your kids would only, wouldn't need help if you weren't going on this cool trip, right?
Want to help, help me truly. They've lived across the country.
That's a big ask. Anyways, I don't understand how selfish boomers are nowadays.
Apparently it's just, it's a boomer is selfish.
We're not wanting to disrupt their lives, fly across the country with all that attended expense, take on the risk of, and you know, it's a long, you know, for women in their 70s and 80s, it's a long day with a bunch of kids.
Long day with a bunch of kids. That's not easy.
And she's not saying I'll fly my kids out, right?
And so if you want to help and you want your kids closer to you, then help.
So this is the Catholic tug of war, right?
If you want me to help, you need to move your kids closer.
It's like, well, why would I move my kids closer if you don't want to help, right?
So this is why probably the marriage failed if it failed, right?
Did I miss if the father-in-law was mentioned?
No. The father-in-law is not mentioned and she's not asking her own mother.
She's not asking her own father.
She's not asking aunts or uncles or neighbors or friends or anyone, right?
It's the mother-in-law on the other side of the country.
Fascinating what she did with the language.
It's always about control of the moral landscape.
Absolutely, yeah. Absolutely.
When my wife went to study abroad and a fellow student, single mother, left her kid with grandparents for three months.
Right. Right.
Right. But it is a tougher situation if you're saying to an old woman, come fly out, take care of my kids for 12 days.
That's a big ask, man.
That's a big ask. And not for some emergency.
Obviously, if there was some medical thing or whatever, that would be a different matter.
But I want to go on a cool trip.
So she wants to go on a cool trip.
She's going to try and fob her kids off on her mother-in-law without the dad being around.
Because no mention of the father. No mention of the father at all.
She didn't say, because my husband and I want to go on a cool trip.
She didn't say, because we...
It's always...
And she has the nerve to call her mother-in-law selfish for not doing what she wants.
You understand, this is basic projection, 101.
In my humble opinion, I don't know this woman, I don't know, just using this as a model.
People almost always, almost always accusations are what you're doing yourself.
For most people, when they accuse you of something, accusation is confession, right?
They call it confession through projection, right?
And this is an important thing, because you're going to get these kinds of manipulators in your life, my opinion, right?
Again, I can't prove my opinion in this woman's, you know, gives me the chills anyway, but you're going to get these kinds of people who are going to say, well, if you don't do what I want you to do, you're selfish.
So you want to Have someone fly out, spend close to two weeks taking care of your kids because you want to go on a cool trip and when that person hesitates and says it's too far, you call themself.
It's wild. Isn't that wild?
And I really dislike it when people give this like, well, it's just obvious.
It's just obvious. No negotiation, no empathy, no trying to understand the other, right?
Grandkids aren't just a right, it's a privilege.
Right. It's a privilege.
I will not let you see your grandchildren if you don't do what I want.
That's really sad.
If you don't do what I want and take care of these kids while I go on this cool trip, you won't get to see your kids!
Maybe it's an attempt, says Josh, at eroding the mother-in-law, father-in-law bond to prove it wasn't her that was the bad one in the broken marriage.
If the mother-in-law, father-in-law is still together, maybe their relationship exposes her as dysfunctional and selfish.
Well, it could be, but she said, I asked my mother-in-law one day if she'd watch my kids for ten days.
Ten days. Not our kids.
My kids. I don't know, man.
That's pretty rough.
And the fact that she's eating what she's eating Nutella during the whole thing.
Because I want to go away on this cool trip.
I want, I want, I need other people to support what I want to do.
Other people aren't doing it, therefore other people are selfish.
Man. The ball's on some people.
It blows my mind. Like, it literally blows my mind.
I mean, I don't feel entitled to anything.
I would never want to go on any trip without my wife or kids when I have them.
I did it occasionally. When I did my documentary on California, I was gone for a couple of days.
But it was just a couple of days. Sounds like salt in the wounds of a bitter divorce.
Does she have a wedding ring on in the photo?
In the video, sorry.
Let me have a look here.
I don't see one.
I'm going to just put the video in here, if anyone can scan.
Nutella! That's right, that's right.
But I certainly, I would not, I would not be away from my wife and daughter for 10 days for a cool trip.
Like, no.
Like, not even close. Not even close.
And I spend a lot of time with them, of course, right?
So, no. Not even close.
Like, that would never happen.
That would never happen. Because I'd be saying it's only a cool trip if you're not with me.
But again, no mention of the husband.
And yeah, if anyone can have a quick scrub through and see.
I didn't see a wedding ring, but I don't know if she has.
Not in the first few frames. No, I got there, but I don't know if she...
I don't think there is one.
I don't think there is one. She's married, but the kids are adopted.
One has special needs, just for context.
Oh, really? How do you know?
There was a whole article on this.
The kids are adopted. One has special needs.
So she wants her mother-in-law to come out and take care of one, a bunch of kids, and one has special needs, just for context.
I left my kid too much to be without her for two weeks, so soon she will be an adult.
Party when there are 20. Yeah, I mean, I'm fully aware this is the last couple of years of parenting for me.
I don't see a ring. Well, so somebody says, I guess there's an article about this, somebody says that she is married.
She's also a double dipper.
That's funny. I waited until my children were grown to go on cool traps for 10 days.
Yeah, it's wild.
Wait, she calls her mother-in-law selfish because she herself wants to drop her kids off for 10 days so she can go on a really cool trip without them.
But no, she wants the mother-in-law to fly out, I assume.
Yeah, it's, um...
you Did she say school trip?
No, I think she says school trip.
No, it wouldn't be a school trip. I don't think so.
Well, if the children are adopted, they chose to have a special needs children.
Or at least one, yeah. Crazy stuff, man.
Alright, any last comments or questions?
Or, she has other videos about her husband and her adopted kids being special needs is in all of her bios.
Okay, so she is married.
That's interesting. I don't know why she would go on a trip on her own, then.
Again, I mean, my wife and I are wedded at the hip, so to speak, so...
Who knows? Who knows?
I mean, good for her for taking on a special needs kid.
That's not easy, and I sympathize with that, for sure.
For sure. But, yeah, I mean...
I mean, when my daughter has kids, wherever she is, we'll just be there, right?
My son is only ever in the care of me or my wife.
It's that simple. Yes, that's right.
That's right. My parents traveled all over together when I was young.
My parents didn't go without us.
My friends always took their kids on big trips.
Yeah, I mean, I know friends of mine who have spent a year or two in campus roaming around the country.
I mean, they always have their kids with them, homeschooling and all kinds of cool stuff, so it's a mystery to me, but I don't really follow how a lot of humanoids live their life.
It's kind of so different, I don't even know what to say.
It's just so different.
Hi, Steph. In relation to yesterday's live stream, where you mentioned that causality is erasure, is it accurate to apply this to how we conceptualize our identities?
Should we look at our identities as being much more than our history in order to escape any deterministic beliefs?
If we hold on to our personal history in order to form an identity, how do we prevent this identity from being the cause of our decisions?
Do you have a habit of over-complicating things?
You probably do. Is it also accurate to apply this to how we conceptualize our identities?
I don't know what it means to conceptualize your identity.
Should we look at our identities as being much more than our history in order to escape any deterministic beliefs?
Are you saying that you are your history and nothing else?
You have no conscious choice, no evaluative capacity, no free will, no...
The possibility of comparing proposed actions to ideal standards?
Should we look at our identities as being much more than our history?
See, even to ask that question is to answer it, because that question didn't come out of your history, so you're already doing that, so you don't need to ask me that question.
If we hold on to our personal history in order to form an identity, If we hold on to our personal history in order to form an identity, I don't know what you mean by the word identity here.
How do we prevent this identity from being the cause of our decisions?
This is really complicated.
It's overcomplicated.
It's kind of tortured, kind of circuitous, and lacks definitions.
So you're not trying to get any kind of clear answer here.
You can't assume that other people know what you're talking about.
This is sort of foundational to life as a whole.
You can never assume that this is one of the reasons I work so hard.
Gosh, you guys don't know. I work so hard to be as clear as possible.
Like sometimes when I get a question, if I'm doing a recording, I'll like pause for like 15 minutes to try and figure out how to organize an answer.
Never assume anybody knows what you're talking about.
This is foundational to human communication, right?
By identity, I mean the thing that makes us different from other people.
Normally, this is personal history.
No, the thing that makes us different from other people is our genetics, our bodies, our thoughts, our minds, our free will, our choices, and our personal history.
Are you saying your personal history is the only thing that makes you different from other people?
Like, you don't have separate flesh, separate genetics, separate personal, I don't know, predilections, right?
I mean, one brother's a really great singer, the other one's a great mathematician.
That's not personal history that makes us different.
One has a great singing voice, the other one has great math skills.
So anyway, you're inviting me into a swamp with no bottom, right?
So, you haven't thought this through, and I sympathize with this.
It's tough to think these things through.
But you are inviting everyone in to a quagmire.
And we're about clarity here and about leading people out of complication and confusion, not in to complication and confusion.
And here's the thing, too. When you start to kick up this kind of fog and this kind of smog, everyone gets lost.
And you're trying to get lost in some way to avoid a very clear conclusion.
My guess is that you have been defined by your history and you're upset about that and so you're trying to fog up the whole question.
Let's see here. I don't understand how to separate the goals I'm trying to achieve from the idea of making excuses.
I want an outcome so I make these decisions.
I found that show a little confusing.
I'm not sure if I missed something basic.
I don't understand how to separate the goals I'm trying to achieve from the idea of making excuses.
I want an outcome, so I make these decisions.
I found the show a little confusing.
I don't think you did, Dave.
I think you are overcomplicating it in order to try and avoid something that's unpleasant to you.
Somebody said, oh, the guy, but they're still thinking it through since the causality is a racial ice stream is very recent.
Okay. But if you're still thinking it through and trying to understand what it means to you, then don't ask me questions with convoluted, complicated syntax and no definitions whatsoever.
Right? So...
It's funny because I say causality is erasure and you're trying to erase the clarity of what I put out because you think that there's causality in your history.
So causality becomes erasure of my clarity.
So... Look, if you find something overcomplicated, look for emotional baggage first.
If you find something overcomplicated, look for the emotional baggage first.
Now, maybe it's there, maybe it's not.
Especially if it's relatively clear to other people, but it's very complicated to you, or you have this impulse to overcomplicate things.
Right? So, listen, if you watch it a couple of times, you make your notes, it's a complicated...
I mean, again, it's complicated, not because it's complicated in its essence, but it goes against the domino theory of most people's personality development ideas.
So, if you listen to it a couple of times and you make your notes and you don't have any emotional baggage, it's not triggering you, right?
Then, absolutely, make your definitions, ask your questions.
I'm sure that there's more that can be clarified.
I have no doubt about that. I didn't sum the whole development of personality and free will in one 45-minute rant.
I get all of that. I'm sure there's more to be clarified, for sure.
But the first place you need to look is, before you ask questions, am I emotionally triggered?
I do, you do, everyone does.
And most times, almost every single time, and I've been doing this for 40 years, right?
Almost every single time somebody comes to me with something really convoluted and confusing, it's because they're avoiding their own emotions.
Before you try to examine an idea intellectually, ask yourself if it bothers you emotionally.
Let me say this again, it's really important.
Before you try to examine an idea intellectually, ask yourself if it bothers you emotionally.
And we all know this from the IQ stuff and other stuff that I talked about.
People were really emotionally bothered.
And so they were triggered, they reacted, they blew up.
And they didn't ask themselves the basic question of self-knowledge.
Does this argument upset me?
Now, the fact that the argument upsets you doesn't mean the argument is right or wrong, but you need to know if you have emotional interference to intellectual clarity.
If the argument bothers you, you're going to be defensive against it, and you're going to view it as aggressive, and you're going to view it as problematic, and you're going to view it as threatening.
And one of the things that's going to cause you to do is to come in and overcomplicate it.
In other words, the aggression that you feel About the argument you try to reproduce in me by making it overly complicated and convoluted.
That's basic, right? Before you respond to someone, are you in control of your emotions?
And that doesn't mean you're repressing them or anything, but do you know?
Do you have the self-knowledge to know?
Wednesday's livestream was released yesterday.
Yeah, that's right. For me, the first thing that I do when encountering a powerful new idea, I don't ask myself, what do I think about it?
Does this make sense? I don't ask myself, what do I think about this new idea?
What's the first question I ask myself when engaging with a powerful new argument?
What's the first question?
And just because I do it doesn't mean it's right.
I'm just telling you my particular habit.
What's the first thing that I ask myself when I encounter a powerful new argument?
Not, what do I think of it?
First question I ask myself when encountering a powerful new argument is, how do I feel about this?
Of course I go to emotions first.
Of course. Of course.
I don't drive without headlights on at night.
Yeah, how do I feel about it?
How does it resonate?
Does it trigger me? How does my ecosystem, is there someone who's triggered by it?
Does it mess up something in my past?
Does it tripwire over some historical trauma, right?
The original asker says, the problem I have is if I'm emotionally triggered, I'm not consciously experiencing any distress.
If it is subconscious, then I have no way of differentiating it with my natural curiosity towards new ideas.
If I have encountered the Buddhist idea of the ego being an illusion, so I'm seeing if this is connected, hence the identity question.
No. You don't want clarity!
People who use subjective terms without objective definitions never want clarity.
Never. Right.
If I said, I just want the truth, but in my mind I define the truth as illusion, I don't want clarity.
I just want mess, confusion, complication.
Right. If you're going to use subjective terms...
Like ego, identity, individuation.
If you're going to use these subjective terms without definition, you don't want clarity.
Now, why don't you want clarity?
I don't know. I assume because clarity is painful.
There's something about the clarity that is painful to you.
And if you don't know that, then you'll approach this with all of this, you know, I just want to see underwater.
And you just kick up all the mud and silt and it's like, oh, I can't see, right?
This is why when people come to me with complicated arguments, beautiful, love it, love the complicated arguments, that's what we live for, beautiful, lovely.
But if they don't come with definitions, I know they don't want clarity.
I want to argue about capitalism.
What's your definition of capitalism?
That which exploits the workers.
Okay, well, that's not the objective definition of capitalism.
So if people want to start a debate without defining their terms, they don't want clarity.
Is it a good idea to start with as simply defined emotions as possible?
To start what?
So the question gets you to acknowledge your subconscious first, and it also lets you see if you're putting an emotional filter on it.
Yes! Do you know, I mean, whatever your view is of COVID or whatever, right?
Everybody has confirmation bias, right?
The people who took the vaccine want the vaccine to be safe.
The people who sacrifice a lot to not take the vaccine have mixed feelings about it, right?
So when you encounter information that confirms your worldview, you have to at least be aware that you may take pleasure in it and that's training you to believe it.
Doesn't mean it's right or wrong, but you've got to be aware of that.
Confirmation bias, right? So when you say, is it a good idea to start with as simply defined emotions as possible?
I don't know what the good idea is relative to.
I don't know what start means.
I don't know. I said, you have to know what you feel.
And when you say simply defined emotions, are you defining those emotions or are you feeling those emotions?
Thank you, Steph. I'll think more about my emotional response and definitions.
Right. But when you encounter power, like when I started reading Lloyd DeMoss, when I started reading about the R versus K stuff, when I started looking at IQ stuff, I had a very strong emotional reaction to it.
Well, most of my childhood was spent with them trying to get me to ignore my feelings and gut reaction.
Hmm, I've been learning in the last decade or so, but it makes sense.
Thanks for explaining it. Yeah, you just need to be aware of what you're feeling because what you're feeling will condition your intellectual response.
Now, most people, like, you've heard this a million times in call-in shows, right?
Some really powerful insights, some really powerful connection is made and people always immediately say, okay, but what do I do?
They want to jump away from the live wire of the emotional connection where their past is comprehensible to them and they want to jump straight into action so that they don't have to feel.
And people want to run straight into debate so they don't have to feel.
And they want to ask complicated questions so they don't have to feel.
If I say to you, you are not your history, and you've lived for 30 years like you are your history, then you've lived 30 years in error.
That's going to be upsetting to you.
Right? That's going to be upsetting to you.
If you lived your whole life like men are the enemy, and it turns out men aren't the enemy, then you've wasted massive proportions of your life.
That's painful. If there's a social explanation, right?
So let's say IQ is an explanation as to why some people do well and some people do badly, and IQ is largely genetic or whatever the data says these days at 80% plus, right, by your late teens.
Okay, so if your whole life you've been attacking people for exploiting others and it turns out it's significantly genetic and whatever, whatever, right?
Then you've been unjust. You haven't been a hero of the proletariat.
You haven't been fighting against exploitation.
you've been abusing people for things beyond their control.
Yes, oh man, if people have made really bad mistakes in their life,
having those mistakes revealed is agony.
you It's agony.
We should never feel such pain.
If you think that hitting your children is good parenting, and the proof comes that it's abusive, you can't take it back, you can't undo the damage, and you can't go from moral hero to villain like that.
That's a horrible transition that would probably take you months or years to navigate.
To go from hero to villain, to go from angel to devil, to go from virtuous to vice, that which you think is great turns out to be horrible.
This is why the vaccine stuff is so volatile these days, right?
The push and pull from either narrative.
Be aware you are undoing entire cathedrals that people have built in their own image.
You are undoing entire cities that people have lived in their whole life.
You are undoing their sense of self.
You are undoing their sense of virtue.
And don't debate with people who haven't processed their feelings because the debate is just
designed to paralyze you.
It's designed to confuse you.
If I were to engage in this debate, I would say, well, this is the answer, and he'd say, but no, that's not quite what I meant.
I meant this. Oh, okay, well, if that's the case, no, but that's still not, like, you just go round and round, it gets more and more complicated, more and more convoluted, and then he's free of his own negative emotions.
I have fogged away the devils of regret.
Did you see what I mean? What if morality is really simple, like UPP is valid?
What if morality is really simple?
Everyone's complications were worse than a waste of time.
But they chose it!
What about their conscience or lack of?
Mmm, Chris, you're doing the same thing.
They chose what? What if they don't have a conscience, right?
What about their conscience or lack of?
Well, you can't say, what about this and the complete opposite with an ill-defined term?
Oh, I've spent days in those terrible arguments and debates.
Damn! Right.
And this clarity about emotional clarity will also cause you emotional fogging if you've wasted.
And look, I have too. Honestly, I'm no hero with regards to this stuff at all.
I have absolutely, absolutely wasted so much time in this stuff before recognizing.
You're not debating.
You're managing fucked up emotions.
As a hypochondriac, she was horribly against having to pay for health care because she couldn't afford her hypochondria without government subsidies.
I mean, if you argue with a single mother about the welfare state, you're not arguing about anything to do with facts or reason or evidence.
you're arguing to do with her panic at the idea that she might actually have to
earn her daily bread.
You're not debating ideas.
You're managing trauma.
Listened to a podcast where a guy tried to redefine subjective as objective for nearly two hours.
Didn't Sam Harris and Jordan Peterson have one of those, right?
Have one of those things where they can't define their terms?
You know, the first three quarters of every call and show is making sure we're talking about the same thing.
Three quarters of every call and show is making sure we're talking about the same thing
So that when I say the words that connect They know what I'm talking about
you I tend to avoid grieving and acknowledging regret of poor past choices.
How do you know it's regret?
I intellectualized, fucked up emotions for years with the opposite sex.
Hint, the emotions were right the entire time.
Yeah, Peterson and Harris went for an hour and a half trying to define truth.
Right. And this is the funny thing, Manuel, right?
Peterson and Harris went for an hour and a half trying to define truth when everyone had got to the venue on time.
They got to the right venue on time.
So everybody already knows what the truth is.
it shouldn't be that hard to define.
So many people get irritated when I ask details that clarify something for a discussion.
I'm seeing it now, so I don't go too far, but it's glaring.
It's the norm. Yeah. Clarity is agony for people.
Please understand, clarity is agony for people.
They will avoid clarity because living in dissociation is the only protection against the demonology of their own regrets.
And intellectualism is one of the great dissociative mechanisms of the human mind.
To be puzzled, to be curious, to be intellectual, to want convoluted and complicated answers, to convoluted and complicated questions, it's all just a way of saying, feelings bad, feelings cause pain, must skate above, held aloft by the lofty clouds of polysyllabic bleh, Pomo, pomo, pomo! I'm traumatized! Postmodernism, subjectivism,
relativism!
Clarity is torture for people.
Because they have lived their life avoiding clarity.
Hehe.
One thing that helped inoculate me from academics or intellectuals was learning that Bertrand
Russell spent 150 pages of his book on logic proving that 1 plus 1 equals 2.
People who live lies feel slaughtered by the truth.
People who live in obfuscation in order to avoid their own emotions, their emotions are desperately looking for the outside ally of clarity.
Dave says, the builder and engineer in me always gravitates to clarity.
It's what I did as a construction manager.
Translate and make stuff clear and take away excuses.
My family hated clarity and so did my ex-wife.
Yeah, as a computer programmer and manager, I had objective things I had to reach and meet and things had to work at a reasonable speed and be correct and accurate.
Yeah, it's just facts, right? I love clarity.
Love it. I can't live in fogland.
You saw me with this earlier comment or question.
I recoil from that level of soup, fog.
And I'm not trying to insult the person.
I'm really glad you brought this topic up.
I really am. And I respect you for doing it.
And I thank you for doing it. This is nothing negative to you.
But, my God.
I recoil from that because it's being invited into detachment from passion.
Passion and clarity are the same thing because passion is certain.
You can't escape facts.
Of course you can. What do you mean you can't escape facts?
Of course you can. You just have to use force and fraud to do it, but you certainly can.
Most of what people do is escape facts.
What most people do. Verity physically feels good to me.
Yeah, sure. And the source of ignoring the emotions, lack of ownership, sometimes trauma and moral failures.
Oh my God! I didn't say ignoring the emotions.
You've got to listen. What did I say?
I said avoiding the emotions.
Why do people want to avoid their emotions?
Because the emotions are painful.
It's a circle, right? You avoid your emotions that are painful.
Your emotions become more painful because you avoid them.
Philosophy has such an awful reputation for opacity.
Yes. Right.
You can either read Symposium and say love has something to do with pederasty, with raping children, or love is our involuntary response to virtue if we're virtuous.
Boom. Why not be clear?
The unknown is rightfully a little scary.
Yes, but it's only unknown because it was inconvenient to those around you, right?
If you're exploited, then your passions, which is to free yourself from exploitation, if you're exploited, your passions are inconvenient to those who want to exploit you.
So they'll fill you full of sentimentality and nonsense and goop and garbage and confusion and mysticism and all of that so that you don't get the clarity that gets you free.
The moment the zebra is clear that there's a lion, the zebra runs.
The lion has to pretend to be grass or whatever it is, something else, right?
Hide and crawl and creep until it's close enough to strike.
Your emotions are there to help you.
They're just inconvenient to those who want to exploit you.
Emotions are there to help you. And if you run away from the emotions into the foggy landscape of dictionary, polysyllabic, Throat-squeezing, tentacled language of nothingness.
Yeah. Paying attention to my own emotions and reaction first.
Very good advice. Yeah.
I mean, why did I get deplatformed?
I got deplatformed because people were in agony for my clarity.
They were in agony for my clarity.
I get that. I understand that.
I mean, it's like a predator.
Clarity is a predator to the delusional, right?
Or, to put it another way, The inner predators that are exploiting them need to get rid of my clarity because otherwise the exploitation won't work anymore.
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Clarity is a predator to delusional.
Yeah. Yeah.
Don't you feel this resistance when you make things clear?
People, like, get really pissed off.
They get really tense. They get really frustrated.
They get really angry. You feel this all the time, don't you?
Not just me. I mean, we all feel it.
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Did you have a period in your own life of a general non-feeling?
Yes. Early to mid-childhood, really up until my early teens.
So, yes, I couldn't feel.
It was impossible to feel would have been to be pretty murderous.
So, I had to suppress that so that I wouldn't do anything I would regret.