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Sept. 18, 2023 - Freedomain Radio - Stefan Molyneux

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5261 WHY MEN THINK OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE!

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	Good morning.
	Thank you for your patience.
	We are live Sunday.
	Reason Sunday.
	Reason Sunday.
	All right.
	Boy, the people who didn't sign Queen, the people who didn't sign The Beatles, and the people who didn't sign U2.
	Kicking themselves.
	Although, did you know that Bono, who Robert Palmer said to the guitarist, can you get him to stop screeching so much?
	Because it hurts my throat just to listen to that guy sing.
	Yeah, he does really push it.
	I guess did really push it.
	But Bono made more money from his investment in Facebook than he did from his entire musical career.
	It's kind of funny.
	In my humble opinion, that's kind of funny.
	But yeah, we are here for you.
	So if you have questions, issues, comments, problems, challenges, I am thrilled and overjoyed to hear from you.
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	I am going to put my brain in the service of philosophy as much as inhumanly possible.
	That is the plan.
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	Do you care?
	Yeah, I don't know why.
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	OK, so let me get to your questions and comments, and we will get this shoe on the road.
	Shoe on the road.
	All right.
	Let's see here.
	Good morning.
	Greetings, Pastor Steph.
	Yo, peeps.
	Good Sunday morning.
	Good morning.
	Be willing to be a beginner every single morning.
	You can never imbibe too many first principles.
	Every morning was a cheerful invitation to make my life of equal simplicity, and I may say innocence, with nature herself.
	Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of Thoreau.
	I mean, a little bit of retreat from necessary challenges and all of that.
	Taylor says, has anyone else cut out all social media?
	I deleted all my apps four days ago and have been having the most vivid dreams since.
	I've heard of this happening with people that quit weed or alcohol but never social media.
	Makes me wonder how bad it really is for us.
	So off sourcing your imagination to others is a sort of foundational thing of the modern world.
	We outsource our imagination to other people.
	We watch their movies, we listen to their music, we don't create ourselves.
	And what that's doing is it's allowing other people to dream for us.
	And when other people dream for us, it generally weakens us.
	So try to retain as much of your imagination as possible.
	Imagination is depth and power.
	So once you understand just how powerful your imagination is, then it's very hard to rule you, right?
	So one of the ways that you rule people is to get them to outsource their creativity and potentiality to others.
	And they never really get a sense of size and scope.
	I don't know.
	All right, so it's a year.
	Somebody says, social media, our brains will create activity of stimulation similar to where we are used to, so flashy social media probably causes wild dreams and prisoners visions when in absolute darkness.
	Quantum says, been out of social media, really?
	Reality is superior in every regard.
	Somebody says,
	No, I do dream of trying to read and respond to written text on things I dream of.
	Frustrating is you can't read in dreams.
	Makes me want to wake up.
	So I can't.
	But much too tired to wake up.
	But there have been comments, or I wouldn't say complaints, or issues where people say that they don't dream of tablets or phones.
	They don't dream of any of that stuff.
	And that is a challenge.
	That is a challenge.
	Social media makes me compare myself.
	Oh, it's fake, yeah.
	It makes you hate yourself.
	There is that aspect of things as well.
	Now, would you like to hear the case for social media?
	This is your show, so whatever is the most valuable to you, I am all over, like white on rice.
	So would you like to hear the case for social media?
	Now, pursuit of social media.
	Sorry, apparently I had to push a button here to get it started.
	So, yeah.
	Well, freedomain.locals.com, you should definitely check it out.
	So, would you like to hear the case for social media?
	And it's related to why men think of Rome.
	Why do men think of Rome?
	And what is the case for consuming social media?
	Yes, well,
	So just for background's sake, a blue-shaded background's sake, so just for background's sake, there is a general level of estrogen incomprehensibility out there on the hinterlands of the Interneans these days where some woman asked her husband, how often do you think of the Roman Empire?
	And he said, like, every day.
	And this is absolutely incomprehensible.
	To women.
	Does this make sense?
	I'm not saying do you agree that it's incomprehensible, but you get a sense of like why that would be just utterly incomprehensible to women?
	That you think of the Roman Empire, as a man, every day.
	Every day.
	And now, today, on Sunday, we're doing it too.
	So, why?
	Why do men think of the Roman Empire?
	Now I personally, obviously it's partly the job, but I personally guarantee you that every day I'm thinking about the world and its outcomes.
	Every other day some old civilization, right?
	So for women, but most women don't understand men, many by choice.
	Well there's understanding and then there's appreciation, right?
	So I don't understand
	other than at the most abstract levels.
	I don't understand how computers work.
	I don't understand how cell phones work.
	And again, I know the general gist, but you know, deep down in the metal and bits and bolts, I don't really understand how it works.
	So I don't understand how computers work, but I appreciate that they work, and I appreciate the people who make them work.
	Right?
	So there's a difference between not understanding and not appreciating.
	Does that sort of make sense?
	I don't understand how air conditioning works, but I appreciate it.
	I really do.
	I don't really understand.
	I remember I dated a woman who was an engineer many years ago, and she said she missed the old cars, because in the old cars she could pop the hood and figure out what was going on.
	Now it's all a black box.
	She doesn't know.
	She doesn't know.
	So I don't even know.
	I know cars are controlled explosions and so on, but I don't really know how they work.
	I've seen some diagrams, but, um, you know.
	It's like that old meme of this guy who goes back in time and tells all of the ancient people about electricity and they say, oh, how does it work?
	And he says, I have no idea.
	No idea.
	The fact that women don't understand why men think about the fall of Rome or the Roman Empire is... I mean, I understand that.
	I understand that people don't... I mean, most of what I live in, I don't understand.
	Right?
	Most of everything that happens, I don't really know why or how it happens.
	I mean, there's a few things I'm good at.
	Like everyone.
	I mean, the whole point of a modern economy is division of labor and specialization.
	So, I know how a bunch of things work to do with my business and philosophy and so on, but most things, I don't know.
	I appreciate them, but I don't know.
	I don't know how they work.
	So, I don't think I'm alone in that.
	That's just, I think, a general statement of humility and understanding.
	And just because I read an article on how air conditioning works doesn't mean I fundamentally understand how it works.
	Like I could build one or repair one or something like that.
	I'm still working on the gypsum.
	So, the issue to me is not that women don't understand why men think of the Roman Empire, and I'll tell you sort of why we do.
	The issue to me is not that women don't understand why men think of the Roman Empire.
	The issue to me is that they find it
	Baffling, incomprehensible, and useless for men to do that.
	Yeah, so I know how to program computers.
	I know, like, I tallied it up once.
	I had worked in 17 different computer languages.
	So computer programming, I know quite well.
	But again, I haven't done core computer programming in quite a long time, so it's probably changed quite a lot since then.
	So the problem to me is not that the other sex is incomprehensible.
	There's going to be a certain amount of that.
	The problem is that it's incomprehensible and there's a general principle that that which is incomprehensible is bad or useless or a waste of time.
	Bad or useless or a waste of time.
	My last girlfriend found it weird that I would have spare water.
	Yeah, we follow that, right?
	We follow that, that makes sense, that if you're a prepper, and I strongly suggest you have some food around, even if just for inflation's sake, women are like, well, why would you need that?
	The grocery store is right down the street, right?
	So, would you like, would you like to have the sexes summed up in six words?
	Would you like to have the sexes summed up in six words?
	And when I say this, there will be a burst of illumination in your mind, and it will never ever go dim again.
	You can just listen for the first six minutes, and you're done, and you got huge value.
	No, not even seven.
	Not even, don't even need seven.
	So, are you ready?
	All right, here we go.
	The sex is summed up in six words.
	And if I'm wrong, I'm certainly happy to be told that, but this is how I work with things and I think it's great.
	So, the sexes, summed up.
	Women see deeper, men see further.
	Women see deeper, men see further.
	So, when you think of the inner life and the world as a whole, women see deeper, they go deep into emotions, into the inner life, into relationships, into the minds and hearts of other people.
	Men see further through time, over the horizon, across the universe, deep into the heart of matter, which is not into people.
	Women see deeper, men see further.
	Am I right about this?
	Tell me if I'm wrong.
	If I'm wrong, I'm happy to reformulate, but this is how it's worked for me forever.
	Now, the problem is that men often don't appreciate women seeing deeper, and women don't often appreciate men seeing further.
	Oh, I got a Pepe Y. Nice.
	Correctamundo!
	Right.
	So, as a man, do you appreciate that women see deeper?
	Well, not if you're a man with something to hide, you don't.
	If you're a man with something to hide, you're like, ah!
	Don't!
	For a woman, a woman's irradiating perceptiveness is sort of like trying to go through the scanner with some sort of heart thing, you know, like the shunt or whatever they call it, where you just can't see, it's going to cause my heart to stop.
	So a lot of times when men have something to hide, they're annoyed at a woman's perceptiveness or they fear it and so on, right?
	So a lot of
	Men have anxiety around women's perceptiveness.
	If you have a pacemaker, you can't go through the scanner, right?
	The scanner, which is supposed to probe you, will cause your heart to explode.
	I don't know, I'm not a scientist, but something like that, right?
	So, does this make sense?
	That a woman's perceptiveness makes a lot of men anxious.
	After being married to a man for 20 years, I've learned to see further.
	I think he's also learned to see deeper.
	Absolutely!
	Completely and totally right.
	That's exactly right.
	The cross-pollination is how we become wise.
	The cross-pollination is how we become wise.
	And since the rulers don't want us to become wise, they keep men and women apart.
	Now, so men, what do men say about women's seeing deeper?
	What do they say?
	about that to put it down.
	Because men and women put each other down a lot, and that's a real shame.
	I mean, this is a fundamental divide-and-conquer strategy.
	Yeah, just be rational.
	What do you care about what so-and-so thinks or what so-and-so said?
	You can't tell an objective story.
	It's all about feelings and all of that, right?
	Navel-gazing.
	It's neurotic.
	It's petty.
	It's not about Rome, right?
	Be more like a man.
	Yeah, it's a strange thing, right?
	It's a strange thing.
	For a straight man to want a woman to be more like a man, well, it's kind of odd, right?
	It's kind of odd.
	Right, so there are all these comedians.
	Oh, yes, thank you, Edward, for the tip.
	Yes, if you could tip, I would hugely, hugely appreciate it.
	Thanks for the amazing show.
	I'm determined to take my philosophy understanding to the next level and start sharing and applying it to my YouTube channel.
	Well, thank you, Edward.
	I appreciate that.
	If you want to share your channel here, you can't get too much philosophy in the world, so please feel free to go ahead and again if you wanted to.
	I mean, tell me this isn't something that's going to help you in your relationships, right?
	So, men kind of hover over the depth of women and they look down there and it's alarming.
	And to some degree, because we're not equipped for those kinds of depths, we go down there and we end up like the, you know, the Titanic sub-explorers, just imploded black hole tin can, right?
	So we hover over women's depth, and it's kind of a little alarming, a little incomprehensible.
	We sense its depth, and as men, we're like, ooh, if I get sucked into the black hole, I can't keep my eyes on the horizon!
	Can't keep watching for what's coming, right?
	So women are scanning for what's coming in relationships, and men are scanning for what's coming in politics.
	Does this make sense?
	Women are scanning for what's coming in relationships, good and bad, and men are scanning for what's coming in politics, good and bad.
	Now, from one to ten,
	How stereotypically sexist should I be in the next part?
	Just give me a 1 to 10, and remember, I have to live with this more than you.
	Oh, the great instigators are at it again.
	Oh, thanks, Tom, for a 9.9.
	Oh, somebody gave me.
	Oh, yeah.
	Thanks, Jared.
	That makes sense.
	So you have to live with it, too.
	All right.
	So if you're a man,
	And you've read something alarming about politics, and politics is society as a whole.
	It could be the economy, but just the material elements of society that are outside of your control that pose some kind of risk, right?
	So if you're a man, have you ever read something that alarms you about politics and kept it from your wife or your girlfriend or the women in your life?
	Yes, of course you have.
	Of course you have.
	Yes, everything it seems, right?
	So let me ask you, there's an old joke about, you know, when you want to be honest in relationships, but if you're sitting, if you're thinking about Raquel Welsh in a fur bikini, and your wife says, hey, what are you thinking?
	You say, I'm thinking about how much my life has been enriched by knowing you.
	Like, you don't, you just, so, have you read something alarming, you're a little moody about it, and your wife says,
	Hey, everything alright?
	And you're like, no, it's fine, it's fine, I just... No, it's fine.
	And this can happen in reverse, right?
	This is just a minor trend.
	It can completely happen in reverse.
	But this is the general trend.
	Right.
	Now, as
	They have no comprehension?
	No, that's not true.
	Come on.
	Come on.
	Come on, man.
	Don't downgrade complementary skills.
	Oh my gosh.
	I mean, if you're a mechanic and some guy's a dentist and he says, I'll trade you a cleanup for an oil change, do you sit there and say, oh, he has no comprehension of changing oil or
	Filters or checking the brake pads.
	You've got no comprehension of a tune-up.
	He's an idiot.
	It's like, no, he's a dentist.
	So is he going to sit there and say, well, he has no idea of what to scrape along the gum line to get rid of plaque.
	He's an idiot.
	Come on, man.
	Don't fall into the petty vanity of thinking that your specialization is the only thing.
	Why did they vote leftist then?
	Okay.
	Do you want to know why?
	Do you want to know why?
	Do you want to know why?
	Yes, we'll get to the women thing.
	I was just talking about this morning.
	All right.
	That which is most dangerous to men is force.
	That which is most dangerous to women is consequences of bad decisions.
	So that which is most dangerous to men is force, right?
	You get involved in some violent encounter, some guy beats you up, or you beat up some guy and then his brothers come and try and take you out.
	So that which is most dangerous to men is force, right?
	That which is most dangerous to women is, say, pregnancy out of wedlock, is dating the wrong man, or marrying the wrong man, getting a stalker, right?
	So what keeps men safe
	is the non-aggression principle.
	What keeps women safe is the welfare state.
	No, ostracism is equally dangerous for men and women because it's genetic death.
	So, men vote to protect life and property.
	To protect persons and property.
	That's what men vote for.
	Women vote to protect themselves from the consequences of bad decisions.
	I married the wrong guy.
	I got pregnant out of wedlock.
	Fundamentally, those are the two big things.
	I married a guy who doesn't work.
	I married a guy who's a drunk.
	I married a guy who's violent.
	I have kids.
	Now, what we do as men is we look at the men who vote to protect persons and property, and we say, well, those men are just more rational, because persons and property should be protected, right?
	Pfft.
	Madness.
	Like, men will literally look at other men voting for property rights and the non-aggression principle and say, well, that makes sense.
	That's rational.
	Because persons and property should be protected.
	And then we look at the women who vote for the welfare state and old age pensions and socialized medicine and so on.
	Well, that's crazy.
	That's exploitive.
	That's blah, right?
	But the men are no saner than the women.
	My God, this idea that men are sane and women are crazy.
	Women are sane and men are crazy.
	I mean, tell me, tell me.
	Just look me in the eye.
	Look me in the eye.
	Tell me.
	Tell me.
	Tell me.
	As a man, you look at other men voting for small government.
	Voting for lower taxes and putting criminals in jail and you say, well that's sensible because men are sensible and that all makes sense.
	And you look at women voting for the welfare state, socialized medicine, old age pensions and you say, well that's just crazy.
	One is right and one is wrong.
	So, come on, we've all thought that, right?
	I think, as men, right?
	And we look at the women and we say, oh, yes, but what the women want violates our property rights, and our property rights shouldn't be violated.
	The women, when they want stuff, they vote to take away our property.
	We think that this is a valid argument.
	Because we grew up without fathers or something like that, right?
	For women, it's amoral resource acquisition.
	Okay.
	So, hit me with a why.
	Let's be frank about this, right?
	Hit me with a why if you look at women and you say, well, they vote to take away my property.
	That's bad.
	I vote to keep my property.
	That's more sane, rational, and good.
	Okay.
	Is it too early to blow your mind?
	Is it?
	It's probably too early to blow your mind, right?
	I did three times already.
	Blow it, I'm still in bed.
	Hey, that's my line!
	All right.
	So when you go... No, this is gonna be too much for you guys.
	There's gonna be touch.
	Too much.
	I just heard 36 hours of horrible gas fill my head with something else.
	So, when you go to women, right, these supposedly irrational women who just take stuff and don't think things through, right, so you go to women and you say, you know, we should privatize the healthcare system, what do women always say?
	What do the fine ladies always say, in general?
	Yeah, who will take care of my kids?
	What about the poor?
	You just want people to die in the streets.
	Don't you care about the sick, right?
	Right.
	So they say we need the state to provide health care because otherwise health care will not be provided and it will just be a disaster, right?
	We've all heard of this, right?
	They are wrong.
	Now that we know, that we understand, and I accept that, right?
	Okay.
	Here's the mind-blowing part.
	Here's the mind-blowing part.
	And you can try this as a social experiment.
	You really can try this.
	Lord knows I've done it for 40 years.
	So you can try this as a social experiment.
	I'm fully confident.
	So let's say you go to a guy who's more right-wing.
	And you say to that guy, health care should be privatized.
	You know, he's probably
	Relatively okay with that, right?
	And now you go to that same guy who says, well of course we should privatize the healthcare system because it would be more efficient and it would be better and it would be provided and it would be sustainable and it won't be debt-based and it will make money off people's health rather than their sickness and all these great things will respond to that, right?
	Now go to that same guy.
	Oh, that same guy.
	And say to him, not that the provision of health care should be privatized.
	Go to him and say, the protections of life and property should be privatized.
	What's he gonna say?
	What's he gonna say?
	What's he gonna say?
	He's not gonna say no problem.
	What's he gonna say?
	Well, you can't do that!
	Only the rich will be protected!
	There will be nothing!
	Chaos!
	Violence!
	Civil war!
	It will be a disaster!
	It'll be anarchy!
	So you see, when you take away from the state that which women want, they freak out and propose all kinds of disaster scenarios.
	When you take away from the state that which the men want, they do exactly the same thing.
	Exactly the same thing!
	But with less excuse.
	The private police forces will set up their own government.
	It'll be a takeover.
	It'll be war of all.
	I mean, even Ayn Rand did this.
	Oh, well, you get two private police agencies and they don't agree on rules and they get together.
	What's going to happen?
	War, right?
	No, you guys are going to want to differentiate this.
	It won't work.
	You're going to want to differentiate this.
	You're going to say, no, no, no, it's different.
	No, it's different.
	Women wanting socialized medicine is very different from men wanting socialized
	Protection of property.
	That's totally different.
	No, men have less excuse for socialized protection of property.
	Because they're saying, I need an agency that violates my property rights in order to protect my property rights.
	It's beyond retarded.
	It's much more self-contradictory for a man to want state protection of property than it is for a woman to want state provision of health care.
	It's much more irrational what the men want.
	Much more irrational.
	Yeah, it's like a social contract, man.
	At least women are trading possible things.
	And women say, yes, it's a violation of property rights.
	Women say, yeah, yeah, I mean, if I want health care, it has to be paid for by taxes.
	But that's a social contract, and I want it, and it's fine, and it's good, and the consequences are worth it.
	So women aren't being contradictory when they're asking for old age pensions, and they're asking for socialized health care, and they're asking for the welfare state, and they're asking for palimony and alimony and child support.
	They're not being contradictory.
	They're saying, yeah, this violates property rights.
	So what?
	I mean, that's good, right?
	You don't have the experience of men arguing for state protection.
	Well, either you're lying, which I don't think you are, or you just haven't talked to many people about it.
	You understand?
	So the men are saying, I need an agency that can violate property rights at will in order to protect my property rights.
	I need an agency that could draft me and sent me off to get my face blown off and my lungs filled with mustard gas on a whim.
	I need an agency that can enslave me for the war machine in order to protect me from coercion.
	I'm sorry, I don't mean to laugh because it's so grim.
	So you look at men and women, the commonality is that both men and women, both men and women, both men and women want what they want socialized.
	There's no difference.
	Cannot agree to this comparison.
	You don't have to apologize.
	If the comparison is invalid, I'm perfectly happy to hear.
	Men tend to ask who will build the roads more often, too, I've noticed.
	Yeah, could be.
	I'm sure you're right.
	I'm not going to argue with that.
	But yeah, both men and women want their preferences socialized.
	Men want protection of property and persons socialized.
	And women want what they want, protection from consequences socialized.
	One is a service, the other is a right.
	Okay, but you're not understanding what I'm saying.
	I'm sorry, you are not understanding what I'm saying.
	If property is a right, then assigning protection of your property to an agency that can violate your property at will is contradictory.
	Can we at least understand that?
	We can understand that, right?
	So,
	Men look at women and say, I can't believe that you want other people to pay for what you want.
	But men do it with the state as well.
	I can't believe that you would relinquish your rights to a centralized oligarchical agency in order to get what you want.
	Same thing with men.
	Same thing with men.
	Men will socialize, they will want to socialize what they want, which is protection from violence and property theft.
	And women, so men will want to socialize what keeps them safe and women will want to socialize what keeps them safe.
	And then men will literally look at women and say, I can't believe that you will want to violate my rights for socializing what you want.
	And the women are like, I'm just doing what you're doing.
	You want protection from violence and theft?
	And so you rely on the state.
	And so when I want protection from what endangers me, suddenly I'm the bad guy?
	Are you kidding me?
	This is literally like someone from the coal industry saying to someone from the gas industry, I can't believe that you want subsidies and that they're applying for subsidies.
	This is brilliant.
	Nobody has ever pointed this out.
	Yes and yes.
	I'm not gonna argue with you when you're right about me being right.
	I just won't do it.
	Come on, people, give me some love.
	Look what I've done in half an hour.
	Half an hour!
	I've blown your minds four times.
	Come on, give me some sugar.
	Give me a couple of bucks.
	Give me a latte or two.
	I've blown your mind four times in 30 minutes.
	That's a mind blow every eight minutes.
	Come on.
	You know how hard I work for these?
	This month's end is going to be a cannonball of tips.
	Thank you.
	I appreciate that.
	Thank you.
	That was awesome.
	Look, I'm just trying to bring men and women back together.
	I'm just trying to bring men and women back together.
	Now, let's switch to the ladies.
	Thank you, Ed.
	I appreciate that.
	Let's switch to the ladies.
	Right.
	So ladies, have you ever kept something that you've seen deeply from your man for some reason?
	Something about a relationship, something about a trend, something about something else.
	Have you ever kept something from your man because either he can't handle it or it's negative him with no upside or something like that, right?
	So if you have a friend who doesn't particularly like your boyfriend, maybe you don't tell him.
	Or she has a problem with him or something like that, right?
	Yeah, of course you have.
	Of course you have.
	So ladies, you've seen something that's true and real and valid, maybe important, and you've kept it from your man.
	And men, you've seen stuff, usually in the political realm, so the women keep stuff from the personal realm from their men, and
	For women, there's stuff that you see and know and understand in relationships that you keep from your man.
	Frida says, I think Steph's prime directive of promoting peaceful parenting is definitely of foremost importance, but geez, bringing men and women back from the propagandized state mutual resentment is a close second.
	Well, they're two are very closely related.
	You can't have peaceful parenting if you're fighting with your spouse.
	The stability of peaceful parenting rests on the stability and happiness of the marriage.
	So I don't view them, uh, they're complimentary to, to put it mildly.
	A house divided cannot stand.
	This is true.
	This is true.
	All right.
	Now.
	Why do men scan politics?
	And the Roman Empire is scanning politics for reasons I'll get to in a second, but why do men scan politics?
	Why do men?
	Well, why do you?
	They call it doomscrolling or whatever, but why do you scan politics?
	Preparing for disasters.
	Looking for threats?
	Yeah, of course, but for what?
	Because what the woman's going to say is, what do women say about a man scanning for politics, right?
	What do the women say, oh, I read this crazy law is coming into effect, and the women are like, well, you can't do anything about it, so why do you bother?
	Why do you learn about these things?
	To protect our family from coming trouble.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, but, sorry, yeah, yeah, yeah, but how?
	How do you protect your family from coming trouble?
	Because the women say, we can't do anything about it.
	Why would you, right?
	Prepping?
	Yeah, there's some of that, right?
	For sure.
	Yeah, prepping.
	To prepare.
	So what are the two things that men can do to protect their families in times of political disasters?
	To see who not to vote?
	No, that's...
	Buy Bitcoin.
	Well, you're not wrong about that, Edward, for sure.
	But in general, what are the two things that men do to protect their families in a time of social or political chaos?
	Stock up, build up communities, or prepare to flee.
	James!
	You are on fire, baby.
	You are on fire like Michael Jackson in a Pepsi commercial.
	Yeah.
	Shelter or run.
	Burrow or run.
	Right?
	Fight or flight.
	Well, you can't fight.
	So it's hide or run.
	It's hide or run.
	Now, hiding is sort of prepping and making sure that you have a good community and being prepared for all of that.
	But what is the number one thing that people, certainly over the last couple of hundred years, what is the number one thing that people have done when their societies turn to crap on a stick?
	They run.
	I mean, America and Canada and, well, maybe not so much Australia, they were kind of driven out, but America and Canada in particular are founded by people who ran.
	So when you're studying politics and it's like, oh man, tsunami of totalitarianism is coming, right?
	You run!
	You run!
	Am I wrong?
	As a Westerner, where are you going to run to?
	Oh, Dave.
	Oh, Dave.
	Oh, Dave.
	Where are you gonna run to?
	Well, then you're gonna have to borrow.
	If you don't think or plan or figure out where you might run to, you're gonna have to borrow.
	Because if you haven't looked into this at all, what are you gonna need?
	Where are you gonna go?
	What are your options?
	What are your choices?
	Then I don't have much patience for your paralysis.
	I mean, just stare and do nothing!
	That's some childhood doom thing, right?
	That's nothing to do with a rational analysis of what's going on, right?
	What percentage of money ever created in the U.S.?
	What percentage has been created in the last three years?
	What percentage of money ever created in the American economy has been created in the last couple of years?
	Eighty percent.
	Eighty percent.
	I mean, this is the official numbers.
	I'm sure it's far worse.
	The amount of debt in the US economy is beyond staggering.
	Half the people are paycheck to paycheck.
	My point is the issue doesn't disappear by going to another country.
	You're still a foreigner.
	Sorry, Dave.
	Give me your age range, Dave, because I don't understand this statement at all.
	And you don't have to tell me your actual age, just tell me what decade you're in.
	Please.
	Late 40s?
	Late 40s?
	Dave!
	Are you insane?
	Anybody who's over 35 is a foreigner to the childhood country they grew up in.
	Right?
	You are a foreigner to where you grew up.
	Right now.
	Am I wrong?
	It's unrecognizable.
	It's incomprehensible.
	The country that I grew up in, both in England and in Canada, the country that I grew up in is not here.
	What do you mean you'd be a foreigner in some other country?
	You're a foreigner in your own country to some degree in terms of the values you grew up with.
	Am I wrong?
	I could be wrong.
	I could be wrong.
	Not to my peers.
	Well, you're just moving the goalpost, Dave.
	You're just moving the goalpost.
	We're talking about countries, and you're like, well, no, no, no.
	Now I'm talking about my peers, so you're not right.
	So we're talking about fleeing countries, and you're like, well, but my peers.
	It's like, well, don't waste my time, right?
	Don't waste my time with just moving categories.
	That's boring.
	And we're better than that, right?
	So,
	Yeah, so we watch to figure out when you've got to run.
	If you've got to run, right?
	And, you know, maybe you stay in burrow, maybe you lay low, maybe you whatever, right?
	But, I mean, the world that I grew up in doesn't exist anymore.
	The world that I grew up in is gone.
	I mean, maybe you live in a country with more continuity and all of that, but yeah, the country that I grew up in is not around anymore, mentally, in terms of all of that, right?
	So, yeah, I mean, I think that's important, right?
	I think that's important.
	So I just wanted to point that out.
	So yeah, so men are, why do we think about the Roman Empire?
	I think I'm getting, somebody says, I think I'm getting ready to run to another country.
	I found happiness overseas.
	War with the USA will provoke a hot war with Russia.
	It seems USA always wanted a war with Russia.
	No, that's not the case.
	They wanted a war with Russia since Russia rejected communism.
	Alright, so, men will often hide political concerns from their wives because their wives may be overwhelmed and too anxious and it's not time to act in whatever peaceful manner you can, right?
	And women will keep things from the man that might be bothersome to the man, which they're not going to act on or count too much about, right?
	So, ladies, here we go.
	This is your man cave exploration time.
	Here we go.
	Why do men think about the Roman Empire?
	I will tell you using an analogy that you will deeply, deeply understand.
	I want you to imagine that you have a stalker and that stalker comes and goes but is very dangerous.
	He's not just a stalker who's like going to hide in your closet and jump out and scare you.
	He's like a stalker who might set fire to your house.
	Or cut the brake cables in your car.
	He's like a really, really not-so-dangerous stalker, right?
	Now, he's in prison.
	He's out of prison.
	You go to the police.
	Maybe they help somewhat.
	Maybe they don't.
	You're always going to live a little bit with one eye over your shoulder.
	Now, if he's in prison, you're going to relax for a certain amount of time, but you know, he's going to get out of prison and so on, right?
	So he's just in your orbit.
	Right?
	You got a stalker.
	Now, if a man were to say to you, why do you think about this stalker?
	I mean, you haven't heard from him in months.
	Why do you think about this stalker?
	You haven't heard from him in months, or years.
	But he's out of prison, and he's talking about you on social media, and then things maybe go quiet, as you say, right?
	The silence is worse, right?
	So can you ever not think about your stalker?
	Can you ever just go live your life, pretend you don't have a stalker, right?
	Could you do that?
	If women need an analogy and can't get it through logic and math... Oh Dan, I bet you want the state to protect your rights and property too.
	So, something a woman said to me many years ago about
	Parenthood, right?
	Women, in general, never stop thinking about their kids and their families.
	And it's kind of like a dimmer switch that doesn't go off.
	You can turn it down, but you can't turn it off.
	You can turn it down, but you can't turn it off.
	So if you have a stalker, you can dial it down, right?
	You're in a movie theater, and you're probably okay, and you can watch the movie, but then you come out, and you just, you know, you never know, right?
	So what is the stalker for men?
	What is the stalker for men?
	Well, in general, it's political predation.
	Right?
	It's political predation.
	Political predation is the biggest predator in history.
	Right?
	I mean, I've mentioned this before, it's called Democide, you can look it up, D-E-M-O-C-I-D-E, Democide, that the state in the 20th century, outside of war, murdered a quarter of a billion people.
	You know, tyrannies, right?
	So, you have a predator, a stalker, that you follow, and you track, and you think about, continually.
	And you look for patterns, and you try and figure out where he is, or what he might be doing, because you're trying to figure out how safe you are.
	So for men... So for women, the Roman Empire is like, 1500 years ago the thing fell.
	Thousands of years ago.
	Why would you... Which is like the man saying to the woman, you haven't heard from this, you haven't seen this stalker in months or years.
	So you understand that for men,
	The Roman Empire is not in the past.
	The Roman Empire and the fall of Rome is potentially in the not-too-distant future.
	Women track predators.
	Men track predators.
	Who preys on women?
	Often sexually obsessed men.
	Who preys on men?
	Political predation.
	So we're not thinking about the Roman Empire, we're thinking about our families and our protection and our future.
	And we need to understand the predation.
	We need to understand the predation.
	Now, key salient aspect of the Roman Empire was deflation of the currency.
	Or inflation of the currency, deflation of the value of the currency.
	Right, so as you know, the denarius went through 90-95% devaluation over a relatively short period of time.
	So we need to keep track of politics and we need to keep track of the money supply because that's our lifeblood.
	Right?
	Like that movie, the play A Raisin in the Sun that I had to read when I was in junior high school.
	That money was made from my daddy's blood!
	Guy runs off with the savings of this black guy.
	So yes, in the same way
	That the family needs to make sure that mice don't get into the grain supply because they eat, leave diseases, and poop, thus rendering the grain supply inedible.
	You need to keep people from preying on your stuff.
	And who preys on your stuff the most is the central bank.
	You know, an inflation rate of 7% steals half your stuff in a couple decades.
	So you understand that men think about the Roman Empire and women are like, well, that's the past.
	And men are like, that's not the past.
	That's the pattern for the present.
	Again, if I'm wrong, tell me I'm wrong.
	But this is what?
	But men have to keep this from women.
	Because women tend to worry more.
	Right?
	I mean, this is the shield, right?
	This is the shield.
	So, for women, it's like, well, that's incomprehensible.
	What on earth would you think about?
	How could you possibly think about the Roman Empire?
	It's so long ago, it makes no sense!
	It's so in the past, it's incomprehensible!
	And do you know why it's incomprehensible?
	Because we've been keeping it from you.
	Because, you know, there's been a lot of money printing, and that's going to have an effect, and that's going to be food for our families.
	So why do women keep their deep stuff from men?
	Two reasons.
	So, first of all, women need to know that their men are scanning the horizon.
	Women offload concerns about political predation to men.
	And men offload deep examination of relationships to women.
	I've noticed women in general avoid deep philosophical arguments.
	Well, because women have a higher need to get along with others because they need the participation of others to raise children.
	Somebody says, because we have not learned anything from the fall, or at least our so-called leaders haven't.
	Boy, you really are blaming the victims here, aren't we?
	We've not learned anything from the fall of Rome.
	Boy, history just repeats itself.
	Or if it doesn't repeat itself, it certainly rhymes.
	Oh, we just don't learn anything.
	Those who do not learn from their history are doomed to repeat it.
	You ever have those thoughts?
	People are just idiots.
	They refuse to learn from history.
	I can't believe they don't learn.
	Right?
	You ever have those thoughts?
	Yeah.
	I just, I can't keep blowing your minds.
	Like, I can't.
	Yeah, I can't.
	It's too much, you guys.
	I can barely handle it.
	And I originate these thoughts.
	I don't know, can you?
	One to ten?
	Are we ready for another braingasm?
	Yeah?
	Do it.
	Go deep.
	Still reeling.
	All right.
	I hope it's a tuna.
	Thank you for the tip.
	I appreciate that.
	So let's say there's a kid.
	Grows up.
	Dan, I can't give you my job.
	So let's say there's a kid.
	He grows up.
	And he's really bad at math.
	You think, God, what an idiot, he's really bad at math.
	Turns out, turns out, funny story, he was raised in an anti-math cult where he was beaten if anyone even thought he was thinking about numbers.
	Beaten half to death, threatened with starvation, locked in cages, punished if he even thought about numbers.
	God help him if he tried counting anything or tried negotiating with any number-based system.
	He was attacked, beaten, threatened with ostracism, death, if anyone even thought he was thinking about numbers.
	Now, would you sit there and say, what a dummy, he doesn't know math.
	What an idiot, doesn't even know math.
	Oh dear.
	You get the analogy, right?
	What's the analogy?
	People refuse to learn from history.
	They just don't learn from history.
	Okay.
	Let's say you do learn from history and you try teaching the world about history.
	What happens to you?
	Just out of curiosity.
	If you do actually learn from history and you try to teach people about what to learn from history, what happens to you in general, on average, over history?
	We don't even have to theorize about this one!
	Oh, somebody has accurately learned about history and figured out the patterns of predation.
	Oh, are they actually accurately and enthusiastically and effectively and charismatically talking about it in a way that people understand and get excited about?
	You know, a lot of people raised in the Aztec culture, I mean, they weren't even any atheists, man.
	They weren't even skeptical about the value of their gods and torturing children and drinking their blood.
	Like, they just didn't think rationally, man.
	Why couldn't they learn from how ineffective it was?
	This wasn't reality?
	This wasn't true?
	My God!
	Why didn't they think for themselves?
	Well, I bet some of them did.
	I bet some of them did think for themselves, but not for very long.
	Stop blaming the victims.
	Please, people.
	Because here's the thing, man.
	You give yourself an artificial boost in ego, then you become dependent on superiority, which means you can't raise anybody else up.
	Steph is talking about my high school.
	Amazing.
	Yeah, of course.
	Do you want to feel superior or do you want to raise people up?
	Do you want to feel superior or do you want to help people?
	Because if your ego is based upon superiority, other people have to stay down.
	What is very annoying and disheartening is the individual slash groups who are not interested or willing to deal with serious issues and ultimately resolving them will not get out of the way to let the ones who are capable of willing to solve said problems do the same.
	I'm sorry, that's just a resentful, soy-based word salad.
	I don't know what any of that means.
	I don't know what any of that means.
	Sorry.
	I mean, maybe I'm, maybe it means something very deep, but I, I don't know what that means in practical terms.
	So if you're like, well I've learned from history and other people just don't learn from history and I'm just gonna hold the sheeple in contempt because they just refuse to learn from history when I've learned so much from history blah blah blah blah blah right?
	Then what happens is your vanity means that you're going to approach people in a way that drives them away from equality.
	Because if your value is being superior
	Then you will approach people in a way that will keep them inferior.
	I mean, how much do you enjoy being lectured to by somebody who thinks you're an idiot?
	Do you enjoy that?
	Is that fun for you?
	I mean, how many times have you said to me, hey man, like I'm in a call-in show, I'm right in the trenches with you, I'm imperfect, I struggle with this as well.
	How many?
	Most people are idiots.
	Well, then you're doomed.
	Right, you're doomed.
	I mean, you're doomed.
	So what you do is you feel superior to the idiots, right?
	You feel superior to the idiots, which means you can't ever change anyone's mind who's not as blessed with as great an intellect as you are.
	Great!
	Fantastic!
	So you feel completely superior as the ship goes down.
	Because you can't get anyone to help bail you out, right?
	You can't get anyone to help bail out the ship because they're all idiots!
	You yell at them, you scream at them, they don't understand the danger, you're superior, so you all go down, right?
	Like you either try to raise people up, or we all go down.
	There's no third option.
	Can't reach those folks anyhow.
	Of course you can't, because you think they're idiots, so you'll be condescending and annoying to them.
	You'll be condescending and annoying to them, so you'll drive them away, and you'll get to feel superior, and you'll be right, and they don't listen, and they're just idiots.
	No, they're lazy!
	Sure, I guess you can say that too.
	So we should teach with some humility?
	The purpose of teaching is to transfer knowledge, isn't it?
	Is that not the purpose of teaching?
	To transfer knowledge?
	Can you transfer knowledge to people you condescend to and think that they're idiots?
	Sure you can.
	Sure you can.
	Tell me how I know that you've never tried to teach people.
	People are dumb and there is no hope, but it's more fun to pretend otherwise.
	All right.
	Let's say, let's take your argument.
	You are a professor.
	You teach people all day and you think that they're idiots.
	Really?
	Maybe your students aren't idiots.
	Is that right?
	No, they chose to be there.
	I don't know what that means.
	One more reason to avoid college?
	Yeah, maybe.
	I don't know.
	See, here's the thing.
	Are there idiots?
	Yeah, of course there are dumb people in the world.
	Absolutely.
	Absolutely there are dumb people in the world.
	But how do you know who is or who is not unintelligent if your basic attitude is arrogance?
	How do you know?
	How do you know?
	I don't know.
	I mean, I've had conversations with highly educated people which are pathetically anti-conceptual and anti-intellectual, right?
	I mean, I've had debates with people who are well accredited and I think that they were just idiots.
	So how do you know?
	Whereas I've had people come in on the show who are blue-collar workers, you know, they don't make much money but they're very smart and very deep
	about life and philosophy and values.
	So how do you know who is smart if you drive people away as a whole because of your arrogance?
	I don't know.
	I mean I've been doing this for 40 years.
	I can't tell in advance
	Who is going to listen to philosophy and who is going to attack philosophy?
	Right?
	I've had people, I've even had people, I thought we had a great call and show and their lives went to crap afterwards.
	I've had people with a very contentious call and show who ended up improving massively.
	To gain knowledge, you have to accept that you lack knowledge.
	If you come to the conclusion that everyone's a dummy except you, you're claiming knowledge you don't have, which is unintelligent.
	And if you're around people and you're claiming knowledge that you don't have, those people will tend to avoid you.
	Right?
	So smart people tend to be humble, of course, right?
	In order to learn something, you have to accept that you don't know it.
	And if people are just like, well, everyone's a dummy or whatever, right?
	Then smart people will be like, okay, well, this guy's into vanity.
	He's not into curiosity.
	He's not into knowledge transfer.
	He's into making himself look better.
	He's into vanity.
	He's into stepping on other people to get an extra inch or two of height.
	So you're either out there raising other people or you're looking vain, right?
	I mean, somebody was talking earlier about social media, right?
	About how there's a lot of vanity posturing on social media, right?
	There's a lot of vanity posturing on social media.
	In other words, it is about them feeling better because other people feel worse, right?
	That this provoking envy is about you feeling better at the expense of other people.
	It's win-lose.
	It's a transfer.
	I believe, like I was saying the other day about how in a sort of fist fight with somebody of equal size to me, maybe I'd have a 20% chance of winning.
	But I've never been in a fistfight.
	Why have I never been in a fistfight?
	Well, I mean outside of family members.
	The reason I've never been in a fistfight is because I view my brain as a collective resource.
	I view my brain as a resource for humanity as a whole.
	I don't view it as mine.
	I don't view it as something to serve my ego or make me money or give me power.
	It's not about me.
	It's about, okay, I'm kind of lucky that I have a brain that can do all of this stuff.
	Great, you know, fantastic.
	Did I earn it?
	Nope.
	I mean, I've worked with it, of course.
	I get that.
	But it's like saying, well, I have a really naturally great singing voice, so I've taken a lot of singing lessons, and I'm a really good singer.
	But I took singing lessons because I have a great voice, and I do philosophy because I have a great brain for it.
	Did I earn the capacity for that?
	Nope.
	Did I earn loving philosophy?
	Nope!
	It just happened.
	I didn't hate philosophy, but then because of integrity and virtue and dedication and conscientiousness, I decided to pursue what I hated for the good of humanity.
	Nope.
	I started reading philosophy and it was like, oh yeah, baby.
	Do it to me, daddy.
	Do it.
	Shackle me up like I'm a sea turtle.
	In a six-pack plastic O-ring.
	Right?
	No, I was just, yeah.
	I mean, it bent me over and took me.
	It was just fantastic from the very beginning.
	I love philosophy.
	And that's been going on for over 40 years now.
	So, my love of philosophy I did not earn.
	My abilities in philosophy, I have certainly refined and I've worked hard to be as consistent as possible.
	But when I sat down to work out UPB, I just knew I would.
	I just knew I would.
	And if I were religious, I would say God was going to grant me knowledge of the final proof of secular ethics.
	My brain is not here to serve me.
	You understand?
	My brain is not here to serve me.
	What do I always say?
	Give me your questions, give me your comments.
	I'm here to serve you.
	I'm here to bring philosophy to you.
	I have a... The way I view it is that I have a kind of gift that is there for the benefit of the world, not for me.
	I mean, if this gift was here just for me, I would have an entirely different life.
	You don't think I could use these skills to gain power, resources, money, and value to myself, if it was just about me, rather than subjecting myself or subjugating myself to virtue and honor and that which is best for the world as a whole?
	My God.
	My God.
	You don't think I was tempted by Boromir-style grabbing the ring of power?
	This level of eloquence, this level of charisma, this level of conceptual ability, this level of analogy generation?
	I could have started a religion.
	I could have run for office.
	I could have done just about anything.
	So I, that's one reason I don't get into violence, right?
	Because I have a brain trust to protect for the world.
	Now, you could disagree with all of this and that's perfectly fine.
	I'm not saying this is all objectively true.
	I'm just telling you that this is my perspective and I think I have some good reason for accepting that.
	Somebody says, uh, I have encountered more people than not who act like they are listening to the arguments, but when the rubber meets the road, they're not really serious to change or resolve serious issues, i.e.
	they wonder why we have wars, yet when I bring up peaceful parenting to avoid the same, they poo-poo it and won't stop spanking their children, etc.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	I understand that.
	I mean, believe it or not, believe it or not, I've had a few people in my own life who don't listen to reason and evidence.
	I mean, I'm in contact with nobody from my youth.
	You don't think I tried reason and evidence with those people?
	Of course I did.
	Of course.
	Somebody says, I talk with fairly smart people, but when I tell them ethics need to be universal, they reject it.
	They want their special pleading.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	You know that one of the main things that I do in the show is to try to deliver unto you a clean conscience?
	It's the greatest treasure that I have.
	So what I am, one of the things that I'm really trying to do in this world is deliver unto you a clean conscience.
	Now, how do you get a clean conscience?
	So, let's say that you approach someone with contempt and arrogance, and they don't listen to you.
	Do you have a clean conscience in the interaction?
	Do you have a clean conscience in the interaction?
	No, because they may have not listened to you because of your contempt and arrogance, right?
	I'm just saying, that's a factor in the situation, right?
	So, I was willing to be deplatformed, but I just wasn't going to do anything really stupid to get deplatformed, because otherwise I would have regret.
	So if you approach someone with genuine humility, and a genuine concern for their welfare and well-being, and a genuine desire to help them improve their lives through reason and evidence, and wisdom and virtue, if they reject and attack you or scorn you or roll their eyes or whatever, then you can retreat from the interaction, might be wise, without regret.
	Did you follow?
	Without regret.
	Because you did everything you could, and your conscience is clean.
	Whereas if you're infected by contempt and anger, frustration, superiority, scorn, then when they don't listen to you, you don't know whether it's you or the message they have rejected.
	Be as friendly and as positive, right?
	So, I don't know, I did a debate some years ago with two communists.
	With two communists.
	I don't know if you... One was called Swoletariat.
	I think it was something that had all these mic issues.
	I did this debate with two communists, right?
	And I don't know if you remember my opening argument, or if you've even seen it.
	You can just do a search at fdrpodcasts.com.
	But what I did was, after they did their opening statements,
	I pointed out that they were kind of the worst communists in the world, right?
	Because I was a guy from a desperately poor background, sort of a single mother, welfare state kind of kid, and I had risen to fairly high prominence in the intellectual circus of the world through hard effort.
	I didn't have a sponsor.
	I didn't have a platform.
	I had just willed myself to the top of the intellectual heap, or close to it.
	And they were siding with giant multinational corporations against a self-made successful member of the proletariat.
	Right?
	They were literally siding with giant international corporations against the proletariat.
	Just pointing that out.
	Now, if they were to say, oh, you know what?
	That is kind of true.
	I'm supposed to prefer the proletariat to multinational corporations, and here I am attacking the proletariat.
	And siding with multinational corporations.
	So that is just a, can I provoke any cognitive dissonance, right?
	Can I, right?
	Because, no, they're just a side with the proletariat when it helps advance power, side with the big multinational corporations when it helps advance my power, and so on, right?
	So I'm pointing out that they're not following their own values, that they're siding with the, they're literally siding with the capitalists over the proletariat.
	So if they don't notice that, and they didn't address it or anything like that, so if they don't notice that or address that, it's like, all right.
	Okay, well, I mean, it's pretty clear to the audience, right?
	So, I mean, I'm not trying to impose my arguments on them.
	I'm not trying to impose my arguments on them.
	I'm trying to impose their arguments on them.
	Workers should control the means of production.
	Oh, this worker got banished from his livelihood and 15 years of work by the owners of the means of production, so I'm going to side with the owners of the means of production against the worker who was unjustly
	Attacked.
	Right?
	I'm just trying to hold them to their own standards, right?
	I'm trying to remind them of their own philosophy.
	Now, of course, if they're not interested in their own standards, that's good, but at least I'm not going to feel any particular problem going further, right?
	Oh, you're going with this guy.
	Are you seeking a calling with staff?
	You seem quite antagonistic, likely from your past.
	No, I just disagree.
	They attacked the... Oh, yeah.
	I have a brain, I'm not here to be a lapdog.
	But shouldn't your brain be used to make arguments?
	I mean, just out of curiosity.
	I'm not here to be a lapdog.
	So anyone who agrees with arguments I put forward is a dog.
	Oh, so for you to disagree with someone is to have an independent mind.
	To just push back and be oppositional.
	That's to be independent.
	Which meant, of course, that you were very much aggressed against as a child and the only way you could retain your independence was to push back against the aggression.
	And so now you are pushing back against everyone because it's the only way you know to retain any sense of independence.
	And then anybody who agrees with anybody else is just a lapdog and a slave and I'm thinking and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
	Yeah, I mean it's a very boring perspective, I understand that, and it was probably absolutely essential when you were a kid, and I value you doing that.
	I'm glad that you did that, because it, you know, but you, to just be oppositional is not to grow up, right?
	To just be, look, I'm sure that you were absolutely unjustly aggressed against as a child.
	It could be parents, could be priests, could be teachers, could be extended family.
	You were absolutely unjustly aggressed against as a child, and you needed to push back in order to retain any sense of identity for yourself.
	I get that, for sure.
	For sure, and some people walk 45 degrees when they're in the wind.
	But when the wind stops, they just fall over, right?
	So you need to find a way to live where you don't have to retain this oppositional element of your childhood, right?
	I mean, just try and find a way where... Because if all you do is oppose people, you're not learning anything.
	And you're not going to be inspiring to anyone else.
	Certainly not anybody with any wisdom, right?
	So, I hope that helps, right?
	Psychoanalysis ad hominem.
	That is an unfair presentation.
	Yeah, that's not an argument, though.
	I mean, I put forward an argument that to be oppositional to any agreement is not being rational.
	If somebody says to me that 2 and 2 make 4, and I oppose that because I don't want to be a slave and a lapdog, I'm not being rational, because 2 and 2 is 4.
	I can't make an argument via short text.
	Oh, so now you're making lots of counter statements, right?
	You're making a lot of oppositional statements, but now there's just no way to do it over short text.
	So if you can't make an argument via short text, then maybe shut up about all this oppositional stuff.
	Because you're poking all this oppositional stuff in, and then when I make an argument and ask the response, you know, I can't do that via short text.
	This is so, so many millions of people over the course.
	It feels like that, of course.
	It's probably only hundreds.
	So many hundreds of people are like, I really disagree with you, Steph.
	Oh, let's do a call in.
	Well, I'm not just good verbally.
	I don't have good data.
	So.
	And here's the thing too, like, so saying, I don't know, this is a funny thing, right?
	So if there was a world expert with sort of 40 years experience and, you know, I don't know, close to 20 years of public experience, publicly recorded experience in understanding, say, the connection between childhood and adult irrationalities,
	And then when somebody was acting in an irrational manner and he said, this is how it probably is related to your childhood, I would listen to that.
	It's not just an ad hominem.
	Like I do have, you understand, I have a lot of experience now in talking to people about how childhood dysfunction impacts adult irrationalities.
	Or stuff that was rational as a child is not so rational as an adult.
	Right?
	So if you're going to dismiss all of my
	Massive experience.
	I mean, I've had thousands of these conversations.
	I've literally had thousands.
	And this doesn't even count the ones I had before I did this show.
	I've had thousands of these conversations.
	I'm not speaking out of my ass here.
	I'm not speaking without any experience.
	And these are public conversations, right?
	These are public conversations where people have enormously thanked me for bringing incredible insight as to why they're doing what they're doing.
	Is the proper forum or context to after someone's childhood?
	Is that how therapists do it?
	The hell are you talking about?
	I'm not a therapist.
	Yes, if I was someone else completely, maybe we could have that conversation, but I'm not.
	That's pretty funny.
	That's pretty funny.
	I mean, it's just defensiveness, right?
	I mean, you're upset.
	You're upset.
	I get that.
	But, you know, listen, you're not going to tell me that.
	You're not going to tell me that.
	I've written an entire, I've written entire novels about this, right?
	I've got a 380,000 word novel called Almost, which is entirely about how childhood affects adult dysfunction.
	I have another one called The God of Atheists.
	You get all these at freedomang.com slash books.
	You say, oh, well, novels aren't proof, man.
	It's like, yeah, I get that.
	I get that.
	But they contain arguments.
	So, you're saying going after someone's childhood.
	So, here's the thing too, when I propose causality and you feel that is an attack, that's just, it's irrational.
	I mean, maybe the causality is accurate, maybe it's inaccurate, but it's not an attack.
	And I have, look, I've had so many people attack me, we do call-in shows, and we find out it's because of the childhood, right?
	Like, literally, I can think of half a dozen times over the last year, people have attacked me significantly, been very critical, and so on.
	We have a call-in show, and it's exactly because of their childhood.
	And it's been very productive.
	I agree with 90 plus percent of content.
	See, that's a vanity statement.
	It is a vanity statement.
	I don't give a shit what you agree or disagree with any more than you should give a shit what I agree or disagree with.
	It's not, philosophy is not for you to agree with any more than science or math is.
	Well, I agree that two and two make four, and I agree, I personally accept and agree with the opinion that gases expand when heated.
	Yeah, I can agree with that.
	It's not about agreement or disagreement.
	See, if you're holding agreement and disagreement as a standard in philosophy, you don't understand philosophy.
	Like, you just fundamentally don't understand.
	And you're very smart.
	You're a very smart person.
	So when people don't, when smart people don't understand things, it's because of emotions.
	It's because of childhood.
	In general.
	There could be exceptions.
	But here's the thing.
	If I'm wrong about something, it is a kindness to teach me how I'm wrong.
	Because my goal is... You know, if you have... Before GPS's, right?
	You're driving with someone who knows how to get where you're going and you take a wrong turn and you drive an hour in the wrong direction, right?
	And then they say, oh no, I saw like an hour ago you drove the wrong way.
	You'd say, why the hell didn't you tell me?
	Why didn't you tell me?
	Right?
	So, if you disagree with me,
	I assume that I've made an invalid argument, which you should then help me correct.
	Just saying, you're wrong, doesn't help me correct something.
	Because obviously, if I make an argument, I think I'm right.
	And if I'm wrong, it's a kind thing to do to help me out.
	And not only do you help me out, but if you let me continue to broadcast to these people, if you let me continue to broadcast errors to people, then you are participating in the promulgation of error.
	Right, so if I've made a mistake, if I'm erroneous in my reasoning, then you should tell me so that I can correct myself, as I've done countless times over the course of these shows, and make sure that I don't get false statements out to the world, or invalid arguments, or self-contradictory arguments, or something like that.
	But when somebody just fundamentally doesn't understand philosophy, and then tells me about philosophy,
	Well, I agree.
	Well, I don't agree.
	I agree.
	I disagree.
	It's not about agreement or disagreement.
	Well, I don't disagree with everything.
	I'm not a lapdog.
	It's like... Because you view this as a personal domination situation.
	Right?
	Like, if you agree with me, somehow I've erased you.
	Or something like that.
	You know, if I do what the GPS says, I've lost my free will.
	It's like, no, I just...
	My will is to get where I want to go.
	And if the GPS says, do X, Y, or Z, right?
	Like, if you're driving someplace and the GPS says, there's been a 19-car pileup, I'm going to find you an alternate direction.
	You're like, well, I don't want to change.
	I'm not a slave to the GPS.
	It's like, no, but hopefully you want to get where you're going, right?
	So.
	The mirror reflecting their childhood, not in the slightest.
	Oh, so it's your argument that you're not affected by your childhood in the slightest at all?
	I'm sorry, I don't mean to laugh, but that is a statement that I don't even know what to say about.
	Oh, that's not what you're saying?
	I don't know what that means then.
	This philosophy laptop discussion sounds so much like conversations I've had with people.
	I'm definitely learning something valuable here.
	Yeah, so, you know,
	You get this all the time.
	It's like, oh, so you just accept whatever Steph says.
	You don't think for yourself.
	Whatever he says, you accept.
	Well, what do you disagree with him on?
	Like, you can't have an identity if you agree with me on stuff.
	Not in the slightest that this is some domination dynamic.
	Okay, well, again, you're not just, you're not making an effort, right?
	You're not making an argument, right?
	Yeah, so people say this, oh, you're just, I used to get this, oh, you're just a slave to Ayn Rand, what do you have that you disagree with her on?
	Like, you're just a photocopy, you're a mirror, you're a shadow cast by her, you don't have your own identity, you don't think for yourself, because you disagree with someone.
	That's funny, right?
	I mean, that's... I mean, this guy who says that you need to eat less and exercise more in order to lose weight.
	Oh, you disagree with him on that?
	Well, what do you disagree with about that?
	You don't have any identity.
	Oh, your dentist says that you need to brush and floss your teeth in order to maintain healthy oral hygiene?
	Well, what do you disagree with about that?
	I mean, don't you just want to go to bed with a mouthful of peanut brutal and apple juice pooled in your cheeks in order to... I mean, why are you just a slave to your dentist, man?
	That's funny.
	What is the counter-argument?
	The counter-argument to that?
	What, you guys know, right?
	Well, you just agree with everything that Steph says.
	It's like, oh, okay, well, which argument of his do you disagree with, right?
	And why?
	Right, because if somebody can think for themselves, and I've said something that's wrong, then they should be able to identify that, right?
	Right, so if somebody says, well, you're just a slave to Steph, you disagree with everything he says, it's like, oh, okay, so what do you disagree with and why?
	Help me out here, right?
	Just help me out.
	Help rescue me from error.
	And that way, I can then go,
	Help rescue Steph from error.
	Because if you point out an argument that Steph has made that's incorrect, then I will email him and he will fix it.
	So if you're concerned about bad arguments being out there in the world, then clearly you should... Like, I'm concerned about bad arguments being out there in the world, so I've dedicated my life and destroyed my reputation in polite society in order to get the truth out to the world.
	I care about what's going on in the world.
	So, it's like, oh, gosh, you know, if Steph's wrong about something, I'd love to hear it, and I'll email him, and, you know, he's got this commitment.
	Like, either he says he's got this commitment to be correct, so if Steph is wrong about something, tell me, I'll email him, and either he'll completely ignore it, or he'll say, here's how wrong I was on the show, and then you'll correct other people's false view if they're just accepting what Steph says.
	Please, help me, help Steph, help me, like, correct the disinformation, right?
	Because you understand this, you're just a slave to Steph, is total projection, right?
	What they want you to be is a slave to them.
	To reject me because they're aggressive, to reject me because they criticize you, to reject whatever I'm saying because they're holding out this will-o'-the-wisp, lure you into nothingness, lure you off a cliff.
	Independence is rejecting what people say.
	That's not independence, that's reaction.
	I mean, again, this is the, right, an argument isn't just contradicting, can be, right?
	This is the argument sketch from Monty Python, right?
	See, they want you to reject me for no reason.
	And then they say, well, you just accept what Steph says with no reason.
	And they're trying to get you to reject what I say for no reason.
	It's pure projection.
	They're trying to detach you from me so they can enslave you to them.
	Does that make sense?
	I'm not trying to enslave you at all, right?
	I'm trying to give you reason and arguments and evidence, right?
	I'm trying to get you closer to people in your life.
	I'm trying to get you married and being in love and respecting your wife and your husband and being a peaceful parent so you have a great relationship with your children, right?
	I'm all about you having great relationships with people, which is why I would never bully you in a million years.
	So I make arguments and they're like, well, if you were independent, you'd just think for yourself.
	You wouldn't just swallow everything that Steph says.
	It's like,
	Well, so they want you to swallow what they say because they're aggressive and they're insulting you, right?
	So they want you to conform to them because of their aggression and insults.
	You're not independent, you don't think for yourself.
	It's like, oh, so you're really good at thinking for yourself, so tell me what Seth's got wrong.
	Well, I don't even listen to that guy.
	Oh, he's got so much wrong, I wouldn't even know where to start, which is just another one of these lies.
	You know, you get these passive-aggressive soy boy rebuttals, which is like, oh,
	Oh my God, he's got so much wrong, it's hard to even know where to start.
	Oh, the weariness.
	No, if people are telling you to not believe something, fantastic, great.
	What's wrong with it?
	What's wrong with it?
	I mean, it's very sad, right?
	I mean, it's really, really almost... It's almost pitiful.
	It's almost pitiful just how transparent that is, right?
	You follow?
	It's almost pitiful how transparent that is.
	The other thing, too, which you can ask, of course, is people say, well, Seth's just wrong about this, that, and the other.
	It's like, oh, wow.
	Well, that's... First of all, that's incredible.
	Like, he's a very prominent philosopher and...
	You've found him to be wrong about a lot of things.
	That's fantastic.
	So what is your definition of truth?
	Like, how do you know what is true and what is false?
	How do you know what is real and what is not?
	How do you know what is... Steph's wrong!
	Okay, that's good.
	So what's your epistemology?
	What's your methodology for knowing what is true and false?
	You know that they're just full of shit, right?
	Completely full of shit.
	Steph's wrong!
	Oh, what's your definition of right and wrong?
	What's your definition of accurate and inaccurate?
	What's your definition of truth versus falsehood?
	How do you know?
	They won't have a clue.
	They won't answer.
	They can't answer that.
	I mean, it's just a bullshit strategy to try and get you to subjugate yourself to them.
	It's that sort of fear, uncertainty, and doubt.
	Well, if you were independent, you'd disagree with Steph!
	Yeah, so define what disagreement is.
	How is it...
	We're good to go.
	And they're just lying to you, manipulating you.
	I mean, it's really sad.
	Of course, I could be wrong about things.
	I mean, I'm the first guy to say that, right?
	I've got a whole 19-part series of History of Philosophy I did at the very beginning, before I even went full-time on the show.
	I did a History of Philosophy, sorry, Introduction to Philosophy.
	A whole 19-part series, FDRplaylists.com, FDRplaylists.com.
	And I go in great detail about metaphysics, epistemology, ethics, politics, economics, the whole thing, right?
	So I can define, how do I know what is true and what is false?
	What is true is when ideas in the mind correspond to reason and evidence.
	When things that you're saying about the world correspond with the principles of the world, which is reason and evidence.
	You just agree with everything that Steph says.
	Oh, well, what do you disagree with what Steph says?
	Well, I just think it's wrong to just agree with everyone about everything all the time, no matter what.
	Somebody says, I disagreed with you, Steph, in your last stream about bullying because I thought the motivation that children and adults have when bullying are the same.
	You said I was trying to distract you, so I decided to listen more and see where you were going.
	Even if I didn't get an answer to my doubts, I still learned a lot due to the rant that followed related to language use, probably more important than examining the motivational differences that bullies as children and adults have.
	Okay, but children are foundationally different from adults, right?
	So children are not independent.
	Children are a long way from brain maturity, right?
	Early 20s for girls, mid 20s for boys.
	I'm not saying that you're a child until you're 25 or in your early 20s, boy or girl.
	But children are not independent.
	They're not in a situation of choice.
	They're not in a situation of wisdom.
	They're not in a situation of knowledge.
	And they're shielded from consequences.
	And because they're shielded from consequences, they have less need for wisdom.
	And so you try and teach them wisdom so that the consequences you shield them from, they can shield themselves from in the future.
	So children are foundationally different from adults.
	And I've said this from the very beginning.
	There's nothing right.
	You don't hold children accountable.
	So a child who is a bully,
	Yes, we're good to go.
	The lack of concentration camps called government schools, where they don't have a choice.
	They don't have a choice in their social circle.
	They don't have a choice in the environment that they're in.
	And adults, of course, have that choice.
	And so adult bullying and childhood bullying are just enormously different, because one is not subject to much free will, and the other one is subject to massive amounts of free will.
	So I hope that helps.
	But that's why I say it's a distraction.
	Because if you're saying, well, this is childhood bullying, what about adult bullying?
	Well, it's an entirely different category, which is why I was saying it was a distraction from talking about childhood bullying.
	I hope that makes sense.
	Any other comments or questions?
	Also, we're a little light on the tips today.
	I'm not saying I won't work hard, but I do get a special rush when the tips come in.
	It does help because, you know, cash flow is king in business, right?
	Bills are always present.
	If you're on Rumble, of course, you can tip even on the app.
	You can tip on the app on other platforms as well.
	And we really, really appreciate it.
	I would really appreciate it.
	Of course, I'm aware, like I'm aware, that you guys are very smart as a whole, right?
	And you're going to tip this week.
	I get paid Thursday.
	Thank you much.
	Muchly, I appreciate that.
	Feel free to set a reminder for yourself.
	So, just so you know, I always have this, it's a trust issue for me, and this doesn't mean it has anything to do with you, but it's a trust issue for me.
	So one of the things that I have a problem with, my problem, not necessarily yours at all, one of the things I have a problem with, and maybe you guys have some advice on this, I'm happy, as happy to take advice as I am to give it,
	So, of course, a lot of my energy has been poured into the Peaceful Parenting book, right?
	I'm currently reviewing a bunch of it at the moment.
	And we're doing some reorganization of the book and so on, right?
	So a lot of my... But that's kind of invisible, right?
	So people are like, well, there's not been as many shows lately and so on.
	It's like, yeah, well, because everybody wants the Peaceful Parenting book.
	Now I'm going to give the Peaceful Parenting book away for free and there'll be some donations based upon all of that and so on, right?
	So my concern
	And this is one of the reasons why it's been tough is that way back in the day when I'd be working on a book, donations would go down.
	Now originally I sold my books and then I made a choice for various reasons we don't have to get into here to give the books away.
	So I guess my concern is always that it just costs me income.
	to write a book on peaceful parenting.
	Because, and now you could say, ah, well what about the novels and so on?
	It's like, but the novels were more of a hobby and the peaceful parenting is a grind, right?
	It's emotionally very tough and the research is deep and, you know, thanks Jared again for all of this.
	And so, yeah, I just, I fundamentally have this concern that
	writing a book on peaceful parenting, which is more expensive, right, because I pay a researcher and so on, right, and takes a lot of time and energy for me, so that I'm just telling you guys straight up, I don't know what the answer is in particular, but my concern is that it's a disincentive to work on a book, for me, because income goes down.
	And you say, well, it's not all about the money.
	It's like, well, I mean, I do have to be responsible, right, in all of that.
	And so I think that's part of my challenge, just to be perfectly frank.
	And again, I don't know the answer to all of this.
	Doesn't really matter.
	Perhaps a few pre-order hard copies.
	Yeah, maybe.
	Maybe.
	But in general, my concern about that is I'll spend a lot of time setting up this whole pre-order thing.
	And it just won't pay off, right?
	I mean, this is sort of way back, like, I don't know, 15 years ago.
	People were like, you've got to have merch, you've got to have merch, you've got to have merch.
	And then I spent a couple of weeks setting up merch and sold almost nothing.
	And it was like, well, why would everyone tell me they want merch if they don't, like, buy merch?
	It's kind of annoying, right?
	Yeah, and Jared's right.
	It's not the easiest stuff to research either.
	Lots of dark stuff to contend with.
	Yeah, it's a black hearted stuff, so.
	Got a big tip for you in the future when I get some money.
	No, I appreciate that.
	I really do appreciate that.
	I'm just, you know, I'm just being frank with some of the business and emotional challenges, right?
	What processor takes the smallest cut?
	Well, freedomain.com slash donate is a pretty good way to do it.
	So yeah, I'm just, you know, people respond to incentives and I respond to incentives and I'm willing to, in a sense, take the emotional and economic hit of writing the peaceful parenting book.
	But I'll just tell you straight up that it's tough.
	It's tough.
	I pressure men to donate.
	Well, I would say encourage.
	I would say, I would say encourage.
	To donate is probably better than pressuring.
	It has, and I've made this case before, but it has to do with your unconscious view of your resource, your resource application.
	So if you want philosophy to be important to you, and you know philosophy costs money, right?
	It costs money to do philosophy.
	Even this studio setup, I mean, it's not the most elaborate thing, but I got a
	A bunch of lights, I've got a really nice amp, I've got a very expensive microphone, I've got a very nice camera, and all of that, and I need fast computers to process it all live and afterwards and all of that.
	So, and you know, I've got bills to pay, and I've got two people who work at the show now.
	So yeah, there's just bills.
	I'm going to follow that which is the most economically responsible because, you know, people respond to incentives.
	So, I'm just sort of, I don't, this is not a nag.
	Honestly, I'm positive.
	I'm telling you it's not a nag.
	I'm just being honest about where I sort of sit emotionally that I'm very happy to do the Peaceful Parenting book, but I'm, yeah, I'm concerned with regards to all of that.
	So,
	All right, one reason I subscribed is because I know you are putting the money also into the books.
	Well, that's very kind.
	I appreciate that.
	Also, yeah, I will put out... I've got some great visuals for the Truth About the Wild West.
	I decided not to do that as a PowerPoint.
	I did that as audio, and we got some great visuals for that.
	So I hope that you'll check that out when I put that out.
	Maybe I'll put that out today or at some point soon.
	I just wanted to mention that.
	And look, honestly, it's not like, oh my gosh, we're going to go out of business.
	Please don't.
	I don't want to say that at all, right?
	It's just a positive motivation kind of thing.
	That helps for me.
	It's a way for me also of gauging just how important the things that I'm working on is.
	And I just want to remind you about the seen versus the unseen.
	So I just wanted to mince you on that.
	Now, I have certainly time for another question or two.
	Oh my gosh, we've really been going for hour 45 already.
	I can't even tell you just how much this time fly situation happens.
	It's just wild.
	Like I really feel like we just start the show.
	I know I've had a couple of rants.
	And you know, next thing you know, it's Wednesday.
	So yeah, it's a real phenomenon.
	It's a real thing for me.
	It's a fact.
	It's a truth.
	What would be a good way to motivate you to write the books?
	I'm a little bit of a loss.
	Did I not just talk about all my motivations for five minutes?
	It's not all my motivations.
	I have my own internal motivations.
	So if you've spent time away from the keyboard, just be honest about it.
	Or if you're not listening, just be honest about it.
	So just, you know.
	No, and it doesn't have to be money, right?
	It doesn't have to be money, of course, right?
	You can offer to help in the show, you can just spread the word, you can whatever, right?
	I mean, even if you just talk about the ideas without referencing me, I consider that very, very helpful.
	Is there a difference in the moral landscape of men and women?
	If men see further but women see deeper, is this a moral consequence?
	I don't think so.
	I don't think so.
	Our temptations show up in different areas.
	Yes, but if we donate you cannot distinguish if it's for the book or for the show.
	Why not?
	Why can't you send me an email?
	Right?
	Operationsoffreedomain.com.
	You can just send me an email, say there's donations for the book.
	I don't know, I mean, the email's right there on the website, so... Earlier, when you were talking with the guy who's worried about political, cultural, and economic decay, you mentioned something about, like, his paralysis could be related to childhood doom fears.
	I don't remember what you said exactly, and I can't go back on this livestream.
	I'm curious what you meant by that.
	I probably have the same thing going on in my life.
	Well, thank you for the tip, I appreciate that, and feel free to give me more details about that.
	Do you recommend book writing as a hobby?
	I think that journaling is really good.
	I think that journaling is really good.
	You leave a note, duh.
	See, that's nice, but the duh is part of the old vanity and superiority and I'm smart, you're dumb, and yeah, that's not the way to spread wisdom and virtue.
	I really like the call-ins and peaceful parenting slash abuse stuff, the philosophy stuff.
	I appreciate it, but I'm not too into it.
	And we've got some good call-in shows coming.
	Sorry, I'm just waiting for this person to... Paralysis could be related to childhood doom fears.
	Well, so, in general, just while I'm waiting for the response, so, in childhood, you can't do much about your doom.
	I mean, if you were doomed, or abused, or neglected, or whatever, it's another form of abuse.
	If all of that was happening with you as a child, you can't do much about it, right?
	All you can do is try and manage it.
	You can't escape it, you can't punch back, you can't push back, you can't, right?
	So you just try and find a way to, in reaction mode, you're just trying to find a way to manage it, because you can't escape it.
	Right, so some of the doom scrolling, if it breeds that same kind of paralysis, you have to be careful that the paralysis is not a Simon the Boxer repetition compulsion with regards to your childhood.
	That you couldn't escape things as a child.
	And so you stare at all of this doom that you can't do anything about as an adult.
	So just be careful that you're not... As a kid, you can't manage the horror.
	You can only manage your reactions to the horror, right?
	You can't manage the violence.
	You can only manage your reactions to the violence.
	And so as a kid your only sense of control if you're abused is managing the effects of abuse.
	That's your only sense of control, it's your only sense of efficacy or power or purpose or survival.
	So then as an adult you will probably be drawn to replicating that because if your only sense of power is managing horror then you have to be powerless to change that horror and so if you get
	As an adult, in situations where you have a lot of horror around you, and you're not changing it, it's probably because you're more addicted to, and the addiction is only as an adult, it's a survival mechanism as a child, of course, but you may be addicted to managing the consequences of abuse, and that's your only sense of efficacy and power, rather than getting away or getting out of the situations of abuse.
	I hope that makes sense.
	Alright, any last questions?
	A lot of people typing.
	How do we provide psychoanalytical perspectives to others in ways that they can accept?
	You have credibility, but we don't.
	Steph, do you know of some tips to be productive?
	Work, etc.
	Actually, I just... Stephan, you just described me.
	Thank you.
	Eye-opening.
	I'm really obviously thrilled and happy to help.
	So, read my book, Real-Time Relationships, and in particular, read this section on Simon the Boxer.
	So, do you know of some tips to be productive?
	Yes.
	One of the greatest productivity tools is rage.
	One of the greatest productivity tools is anger, frustration, and in particular, rage.
	I did a whole show on this.
	No, I'm not kidding.
	It's absolutely true.
	It's absolutely true.
	When I get really angry at something that's just taking too long or whatever, it's because I'm doing it the wrong way.
	They tell you not to get angry, right?
	So if you look at societies that stagnate, they tend to be the societies most opposed to anger.
	Anger is disruptive.
	Anger comes out of frustration.
	There's got to be a better way, and so on.
	I guarantee you that one of the things that motivated Elon Musk was his frustration at the lack of progress in engineering as a whole.
	And so, yeah, he's like, well, we've got to go to Mars.
	Mars is next.
	We've got to keep moving forward.
	I'm so angry and frustrated.
	So go and create stuff, right?
	I was incredibly frustrated and angry at the state of philosophy.
	So I did something about it.
	I was incredibly frustrated and angry and found modern novels to be horrifying and appalling and like a virulent attack of brain viruses on the very foundation of my essence as a human being.
	So I started writing better novels.
	Yeah, you get this frustration when coding all the time.
	Yeah, for sure.
	For sure.
	Yeah, no, rage is really important.
	If you look at a society that stagnated enormously, something like China, thousands of years of relative stagnation, that's a society that's very opposed to anger.
	Same thing with Japan, right?
	So, okay, I had Japan more recently, obviously, in the past, more so with the anger.
	So everyone who's, you know, be zen, don't get too upset, don't get angry, just be even-tempered and so on.
	It's like all they're just saying is like stagnate and be bored and boring.
	Oh no, rage is very good for productivity because it points you at where your inefficiencies are.
	So anyway, I did a whole show on this this morning so you can get more about that.
	But yeah, embrace the rage and be productive.
	Meanwhile in Europe, oh yeah, yeah, for sure.
	All right, let me see.
	Was there another question here?
	I haven't done research at all about prep, moving out of town, finding or making a community.
	I spend most of my time journaling, working on my career, going to the gym and with my therapist while still holding on to childhood tendencies like hiding into video games like I did as a child.
	It does seem like my worldview is like Simon the Boxer.
	I couldn't change my world as a child and I don't feel like I can now.
	For sure.
	For sure.
	Very tempting.
	Did you see my question about converting to Catholicism from Agnostic and the Loving Objectivity 2?
	Please, Steph.
	I did not see that.
	Let me look here at the tippers.
	I'm not saying you have to tip, I'm just curious.
	It's sometimes easier to see a question with a tip.
	No.
	All Rage is Bad is such mommy talk.
	Oh yeah, for sure.
	It was earlier on the pre-questions.
	Oh, you want me to scroll back an hour and a... 50 minutes to earlier questions?
	You could try to make things easier.
	Oh, days ago!
	Oh, yeah, well, no.
	If I haven't answered it, and I haven't referred to it, and it was in some stream from days ago, then I think it's fairly safe to assume that I don't know.
	I don't mean to laugh, but if you have a really, really important question for me, keep it in your notepad, right?
	Keep it in text format and make it easy for me, right?
	You can just email me the question, or you can post it at freedomain.locals.com.
	And I'll work with it there.
	All right.
	Well, thanks, everyone, so much for a great show.
	Really, really appreciate your time.
	Freedomain.com slash books.
	Please, please, please check out the novels.
	I can't emphasize this strongly enough to please, please check out the novels.
	They are some of my greatest work.
	And I would really appreciate that.
	They're all free.
	So it was years of work and all for nothing.
	for free.
	So I hope that.
	Thanks, Steph, you're incredible.
	Thank you very much, my good lady.
	I really, really appreciate that.
	Have yourself a wonderful, wonderful Sunday.
	I will speak to you guys probably before Wednesday.
	Can this be an audio format tomorrow?
	I hope so, yes.
	Steph is the goat.
	Oh, no, absolutely not.
	Have a great week.
	Lots of love.
	I will talk to you soon and take care, my friends.
	I really appreciate your great questions and comments today.
	StephBot is out.

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