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June 3, 2023 - Freedomain Radio - Stefan Molyneux
01:34:28
Do You Save Strangers?
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Yes, Friday night. I can't believe it's June already.
And thank you, thank you, thank you everyone.
Oh, did you miss the song quiz?
I haven't done the song quiz. It's up to you.
I'm happy to do it. Hit me with a Y if you would like a song quiz.
How are you guys doing for song quizzes?
Mostly yes? All right.
Ah, let me...
I want to make sure I get...
I'm gonna try it line by line and see if you can get it.
This is a bit of an older song. Did you ever have the feeling...
Anyone?
Come on! You guys got to know it.
I can't be the only song geek on the planet.
Did you ever have the feeling that the world's gonna left you behind?
Did you ever have the feeling That you're that close to losing your mind?
You look around each corner Hoping that she's there You try to play it cool Perhaps pretend that you don't care But it doesn't do a bit of good You've got to seek till you fight But you'll never unwind No?
Anybody? I think I've got the tune right.
It may be song quiz objectively.
It also just may be song quiz of like Steph didn't quite get the tune right.
Bob Dylan, Jimmy Durante.
I'm afraid with no.
That would be... No, it is not adenoisal voice prompts bouncing down a workaholic staircase.
No. You got to seek till you find, but you'll never unwind.
Got to find who's now number one.
The facts uncomfortably clear.
My old heart ain't gaining no ground Because my angel eyes ain't here Excuse me while I disappear.
No. Angel Eyes.
It's a very... Sinatra did...
I think it showed up in the movie.
Sting did a version of it for the movie Leaving Las Vegas.
Pretty terrifying movie, by the way.
Although, hey, who doesn't want to watch Angelina Shue?
No. Elizabeth Shue.
A wiper hoo-hoo. All right.
So, singing A.I. Steph, not in version 3.0.
No. What was it?
My daughter was playing to me some song.
Valhalla calling. It's worth looking up.
Because of the guy who sings down here, there is a guy who sings down here.
It's like, as bassy as you can get, if you turn up the bass on that, it literally will make you burp and help you digest your Chipotle.
So... There is a guy who sings down here.
It's like Inuit throat singing or something like that.
Yeah, halfway through the year. Month six now.
Isn't that wild? Isn't that wild?
All right. But yeah, so you can look it up.
I think Sting's version is pretty good.
He's got a lovely voice.
And he's not quite as flexible as Freddie Mercury's, but he does a lot of different styles quite well.
I guess that's the thing in common, right?
Which Sting did a version of the song we did last time.
And which was...
Nice work if you can get it.
And then Sting also did a version of Angel Lies, which is a very pretty song.
All right. Let's get to your question.
So, yes, I owe you an apology.
I owe everyone an apology.
Well, to be honest, probably more than one.
But for this one in particular, I was baffling and confusing.
And it's not on you.
That's on me completely.
So, with bended knee, I apologize.
I will try to unravel my Mobius strip of contradictions this evening.
So, I have said in the past that it is important to know the body count of the person you're dating.
And, of course, divorces are dick dose dependent.
D equals DDD or D equals D cubed, I suppose.
No, D squared? No, D cubed.
So, yeah, divorces are dick dose dependent.
The more dick a woman has run through, the more likely she's going to be to run to the lawyer and take you for half of everything you've got.
It shreds self-esteem for women in particular.
Men, I think it's a little easier to survive being a himbo or a man whore.
But for women in particular, it's like inheriting a bunch of money and thinking you're a great entrepreneur.
And so inheriting being desirable and then thinking that gives you value is really catastrophic for female esteem.
So the more boyfriends a woman has had, the less stable her relationships are and the more difficult she's going to be.
Which is why virginity is highly priced.
If you marry a virgin, your odds of divorce are virtually zero.
Now, of course, if you marry, like 95% of upper-class women are married, whereas only 25% of lower-class women are married.
Lower-class, just talking about economics, not sort of, are you classy or not?
So, if you get a well-educated woman who has good values, your chance of divorce is virtually zero.
I mean, people like mix all this stuff in, you know, and they say, well, your chances of dying of lung cancer are X, right?
And they don't tell you, well, yeah, but if you smoke, they're way higher.
And Andy Kaufman accepted if you don't smoke, they're way lower.
And so they just mix these things up and say, well, you know, half of all divorces, half of all marriages end in divorce.
That statistic is patently untrue.
I mean, it's absolutely untrue.
Because they count second marriages and things like their third marriages and people who just are really bad at staying married.
But if you find an intelligent woman with good education, can be perfectly self-educated and all of that, you find a woman well-educated and she's got good values, your chance of divorce is virtually zero.
When people say, I'm getting divorced, what they're saying is, I did not apply strict enough standards to the woman I was going to marry or the man I was going to marry.
It's not a confession that there's something wrong with marriage.
It's a confession that there's something wrong with your selection criteria.
Some women on TikTok post 172 bodies.
Yeah, I see bodies count that high.
I just think serial killer.
I just think I got 172 bodies.
Oof. I saw this.
Oh, my God. I saw this.
Shall I try and dig it up?
Yeah, I think I'll try and dig.
This image just chills the living crap out of me.
It was just appalling.
I will look at that.
This image was of, just for those of you who won't get to see it, it's a woman being railed from behind on a couch, having, I guess, doggy-style sex on a couch, and there's a guy banging her, and then he's naked and she's naked, mostly naked, and then there are all these other guys lined up perfectly naked, waiting to take their turn, and then the 11th guy is in a suit and holding some flowers, and Oh, like just heartbreaking.
I'll share it here.
Sorry, it's a little bit rude.
It's a little bit rude, but I will show you.
This just, like this was seriously chilling for me.
Seriously chilling. It's just up a little way, so you'll have to click on it to see it.
But yeah, this guy, he's like, hey man, I'm a romantic guy.
I'm going to date this woman.
And it's just like, she's just got a train, right?
right? Just lines up guys, right? Yeah, telekinesis. So your children are going to have genetic
elements from every woman that their mother has ever slept with.
Thank you.
Alright. So, I'm sorry, let me get to the apology.
So I said, it's important to know that it's someone's sexual history.
And at the same time, I said, you are not obligated to divulge your sexual history.
And people, and I think quite rightly, because these seem contradictory, and I want to address that, and I'm sorry for not addressing that at the time, and for taking a little while.
I wanted to make sure I got the answer correct, you know.
I needed to formulate my response to make me sound sane.
So... And you guys are perfectly, I'm perfectly willing to hear your, if there's a contradiction, I'm happy to hear it.
If there's another way to play it, I'm happy to hear that too.
Thank you for the tip, I suppose.
If you could hold off on tiny tips, I would appreciate that.
It's... Not super helpful from an accounting standpoint.
Genetic elements point?
Yeah, so it just means that semen has an effect on women's genetics.
All right, so what I'm saying is that here's the thing.
You are not to be ruled by philosophy.
So if you have a value called honesty, you are not to be ruled by philosophy.
If someone asks you a question and you don't want to answer that question, you must not, I believe, you should not, say to yourself, well, I'm really into philosophy, and philosophy says that honesty is a virtue, therefore I must answer everyone's questions about everything, right? It is perfectly within your right and it's a perfectly valid and fair thing to do to say, I don't want to answer that question.
I don't want to talk about that.
I choose not to talk about it.
It's not my thing. Now, of course, it's perfectly valid for a woman to say that to you.
So the fact that it's important for you to know a woman's sexual history doesn't mean that she automatically has to provide it to you.
And so I don't want you guys to end up abandoning your free will for the sake of being programmed by philosophy.
Do you sort of follow what I'm saying here?
Philosophy always has to be a choice.
I don't want you to be a slave to it and be programmed by it.
Well, honesty is a virtue, therefore I have to answer every single question that everyone answers as if...
I'm in a court and I have sworn to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth under pain of perjury.
That's not freedom.
That's not philosophy. Virtue is not saying, well, I have these standards, therefore I must obey these standards no matter what, under any circumstances, and this means that everyone around you has the right to rifle through your past and get all facts about you when some people could be malevolent.
They could be bad actors.
You are not obligated to follow moral rules as if you are programmed.
Philosophy It doesn't turn you, must not turn you into an NPC. An NPC, of course, non-player character, it's a programmed character that responds only on a certain set of conversational paths and so on.
You must choose your application of morality.
Now listen, of course, murder, rape, theft, assault, yeah, don't do any of that stuff, but this is not an audience where I really have to say that with any concern.
There's a line from Hamlet.
Oh, I wish I could remember.
and it really hit a punch with me.
He would, you would sound me from the very bottom to the very top.
I'm so sorry. If anybody knows this, can you...
When someone's querying him and someone questions, it's like, oh, you would open me up, you would just sound me a bottom register or something like that.
It really struck me when...
Uh...
I don't know if I'm going to get it this way.
Yeah, unfortunately I'm getting all these sound effects.
Let's see here. I'm just gonna see if I can Here we go.
Oh, so this is Rosencrantz and Guildenstern, also an interesting play by Tom Stoppard.
This is just before Polonius comes in.
And let's see here.
Rosencrantz and Guildenstern have been told have been ordered to try and find out
what's going on with Hamlet
and Hamlet realizes this And...
I just want to figure out a good place to start with this.
Ah, Gildan says, Good my lord, vouchsafe me a word with you?
Hamlet says, sir, a whole history.
The king, sir, aye, sir, what of him?
Is, in his retirement, marvellous distempered.
Hamlet says, with drinks, sir?
Guildenstead says, no, my lord, with choler.
Hamlet says, your wisdom should show itself more richer to signify this to the doctor.
For, what the, for me?
Your wisdom should show itself more richer to signify this to the doctor.
For, for me to put him to his purgation would perhaps plunge him into more choler.
Good my lord, put your discourse into some frame and start not so wildly from my affair.
Hamlet says, I am tame, sir, pronounce.
The queen, your mother, in most great affliction of spirit, hath sent me to you.
Hamlet says, you are welcome.
No, good Lord, this courtesy is not of the right breed.
If it shall please you to make me a wholesome answer, I will do your mother's commandment.
If not, your pardon and my return shall be the end of my business.
Hamlet says, Sir, I cannot.
See, he's playing with them. They want to find out information and he's just playing with them.
Rosencrantz says, What, my Lord?
Hamlet says, I cannot make you a wholesome answer.
My wits diseased.
But, sir, such answer as I can make, you shall command.
Or rather, as you say, my mother.
Therefore, no more but to the matter.
My mother, you say? Rosencrantz says, then thus, she says, your behavior has struck her into amazement and admiration.
Hamlet says, oh, wonderful son that can so astonish a mother!
But is there no sequel at the heels of this mother's admiration in part?
Rosencrantz says, she desires to speak with you in her closet ere you go to bed.
Hamnet says, we shall obey, were she ten times our mother.
Have you any further trade with us?
My lord, you once did love me, says Rosencrantz.
Hamlet says, and do still by these pickers and stealers.
I think he means his hands, right?
Rosencrantz says, good my lord, what is your cause of distemper?
You do surely bar the door upon your own liberty if you deny your griefs to your friend.
Hamlet says, sir, I lack advancement.
Rosencrantz says, how can that be?
When you have the voice of the king himself for your succession in Denmark...
Amenus says, Aye, sir, but while the grass grows, the proverb is something musty.
And a bunch of players come in with musicians, right, recorders.
Oh, the recorders!
Let me see one. He takes a recorder and turns to Guildenstern, like a recorder, like a little flute.
To withdraw with you, why do you go about to recover the wind of me as if you would drive me into a toil?
Guildenstern says, Oh, my lord, if I do to be too bold, my love is too unmannerly.
Hamlet says, I do not well understand that.
Will you play upon this pipe?
My lord, I cannot.
I pray you. Believe me, I cannot.
I do beseech you.
I know no touch of it, my lord.
It is as easy as lying.
Govern these vantages with your fingers and thumb, give it breath with your mouth, and it will discourse most eloquent music.
Look, you, these are the stops.
Guildenstead says, but these I cannot command to any utterance of harmony.
I have not the skill.
Hamlet says,"'Why, look you now!
How unworthy a thing you make of me!
You would play upon me.
You would seem to know my stops.
You would pluck out the heart of my mystery.
You would sound me from my lowest note to the top of my compass.
And there is much music, excellent voice, in this little organ, yet you cannot make it speak.' Splat!
Do you think I am easier to be played on than a pipe?
Call me what instrument you will, though you can fret me, you cannot play upon me.
He's saying, I am not a piece of music.
I'm not a musical instrument to just be played as you like.
You've got to earn it. You've got to provide it.
And he's saying to Guildenstern and Rosencrantz, you are lying to me.
You're not telling me the truth about why you're here.
So do not expect me to tell you the truth if you are lying to me.
You can't play me like an instrument and get whatever sounds you want out of me, especially when you ask me for the truth but are lying to me to get it.
I love this.
I've always loved this bit where he says, basically, fuck you, I'm not an instrument to be played.
You can't play this, you can't play me.
Beautiful. Beautiful.
So no, you don't have to give people everything they ask for because that's not free will.
That's not choice. That's morality.
Morality, I've said this once.
I haven't said it for a while.
It always bears repeating. Morality is a relationship.
Morality is not a commandment.
Commandments are for the Bible.
Morality is a relationship.
And we know this, right?
Self-defense is the use of violence to protect life and imminent grievous bodily harm.
Don't use violence. Okay, that's the relationship.
Now, extreme pacifism is never use violence, but don't use violence as a relationship.
Which is, I won't use violence on you if you don't use violence on me.
But if you use violence on me, I will use violence to defend myself and sleep well at night.
You see? It's a relationship.
Are you obligated to pay your bills?
Well, most people would say, well, yes, you're obligated to pay your bills.
Of course you have to pay your bills. Nope.
You're not obligated to pay your bills.
If the service has been unsatisfactory, if the service was not provided, if the person has cheated you, you order an iPad for $500 online.
Are you obligated to pay for it?
Nope. Not if they don't ship the iPad.
What if they ship you an old iPad or a broken iPad or just an iPad box?
Or an iPad where the battery is missing.
Or an iPad where the battery is crap.
Or you order one that has cell phone data but they only send you one with wireless.
You're not obligated to pay. You're obligated to pay.
You're obligated to act with integrity if the other people have acted with integrity.
Integrity is not some abstract thing that you just follow like gravity.
It's a relationship.
Do you owe the truth to people?
I think if they've earned it and you find the value in talking about it, then yes, you owe the truth to people, for sure.
But if people are lying to you, if they're cheating you, this is what Hamlet is saying.
You come and you want the truth from me, but you're not telling me the truth?
You want to play me like an instrument?
In other words, I'm just a passive thing that you blow into and you put your fingers here, here and here and you get all the truth out of me.
Like I'm just supposed to be some passive fucking thing that you just play around with and you can get right to the heart of my mystery.
You can get to every single secret and thought and history that I have.
No. He's saying to Rosencrantz and Guildenstern, if you lie to me, I owe you no truth.
I'm not a passive instrument that you can play.
So yeah, if you're a woman and a guy asks you about your dating history, you are not obligated, you are not honor-bound, you don't have to, tell him.
You know, you have to develop some trust with people.
You have to develop some reciprocity with people.
Because here's the thing, man.
If you are an instrument, if you are a passive recorder, if you are just a thing, like a book, that people, the books don't have secrets, like you just open the book and you read the damn book.
Just be passive and empty and just, ah, an open book.
If you are that, If you are commanded by morality, do you know what will happen?
I guarantee you this will happen.
If it hasn't happened already, I'm sure as hell has it ever happened to me in the past.
So I'm very passionate about this topic.
And this Hamlet phrase was designed to save me from that.
And it did. If you are a slave to philosophy, philosophy or your values will be used to enslave you.
If you are a slave to morality...
Well, I have these abstract values that I have to obey.
First thing people will do is they'll try and figure out your abstract values and they will take you over.
They will possess you!
Put all these giant levers out that provide resources.
Bam! Bam! Bam! Pull! Pull!
Pull! You just get yanked around, jerked around, you know.
Well, aren't you a compassionate person?
Don't you care about the children?
Then you have to do X, Y, and Z. Fuck you, I don't.
Don't hand out the reins of your soul to any more but the very, very smallest number of
people possible in your life.
Value reciprocity must be earned.
you If you hand it out like a whore, you will be ridden into the ground.
You follow? I keep a lot of secrets.
I have to. I don't keep secrets from the people in my life who have earned that level of trust, but, you know, the internet as a whole, of course, right?
So, after I'm dead and gone, there'll be a whole lot of holy shits, right?
That's fine. Don't hand out the reins of your soul to all but the smallest number of people who you genuinely, deeply, and totally trust.
Some guy, like if you're some woman and some guy is like, what's your body count, right?
And let's say you had a sleazy face when you were younger and you realized it, you've gone to therapy, you've dealt with it, you've done with it, you don't have to tell them.
You don't. Now, he can make his own decisions about what he does with you not telling him, but otherwise you're just a machine.
You're like a passive recorder, like to be played, a book to be opened and read without even any subtext.
Well, I have no free will in the matter.
I must cough up this number because someone has asked me, and I believe in honesty, and you have no free will.
You have no choice. You have no judgment, and you're just handing out information.
You know, you hand out enough information to the planet, you will unravel.
You will disintegrate. Because everybody will use it, will use that information to try and take little pieces of you like mosquitoes with the blood.
And you will be drained by a timely endless series of vampires.
So that's what I'm saying.
Yeah, it's important to know a woman's body count.
She doesn't have to tell you.
Well, you gotta be honest.
I don't know if I have to be honest with you.
You haven't proven that, I have to be honest with you.
Now people will ask you things and then weaponize those things against you, right?
And I'm like, I'm not going to do that.
It's okay to play your cards close to your chest.
I know I say this in the world as a whole, like after what I've talked about, but I'm telling you this.
You don't have to cough up everything about yourself to everyone because it's honesty.
All right, let's get to your questions.
You pay people what you owe.
And if they have been honest and have lived with integrity with you and have proven they have the capacity to keep secrets, this is the thing.
If you give two secrets to people, they have to have shown you that they can keep secrets.
They have to have shown you that they can keep their secrets.
You don't just...
Like if you have a friend and you've lent each other money back and forth
in the sort of we're in, we're out of the money, right?
Money comes, money goes. And you've had a history of lending each other money, then sure, lending money.
Yeah, lend money. Lending money, being generous, is a minor virtue in appropriate situations.
But if someone comes up on the street and says, hey man, lend me 500 bucks, I'll get it right back to you, you don't give it to him because you have no history.
It's a relationship.
It's not a commandment.
And you understand, people teach you that ethics are a commandment in order to control you, in order to bully you, in order to take you over, to bypass your consciousness, to bypass your boundaries and pillage you from here to kingdom come.
Somebody says, can someone tell me on what page I can find the argument against?
Do you need to tell the murderer at the door if someone is inside?
No, because the murderer has, you have no moral obligations to the murderer.
Why? Because he's a murderer. Well, you see, you borrow an axe from your friend, and then your friend says, give me the axe back, I want to kill my wife.
Okay, so he's a murderer, so you don't owe him the return of his property.
So much guilt could just be eliminated.
All right Yeah, let's see here
Hello my question is in regards to pacifism Is there a positive moral duty to intervene when you both know about and are able to stop immoral behavior?
Is there a positive moral duty?
No, there are no positive moral duties.
There are no positive moral duties.
There are negative moral duties.
Don't rape, steal, murder, and assault.
Yeah, there are negative moral... What are positive moral duties?
So let's say, let's take a scenario, right?
A woman is being pushed around by her boyfriend outside a nightclub.
Hit me with a Y if you've ever been in this situation.
Hit me with a why. I know I have.
You ever been in a situation, it could be a nightclub, it could be obviously, it could be a New York subway car.
Hit me with a why if you've ever been in a situation where you've seen someone weaker, often a woman, being pushed around or assaulted or threatened by someone bigger.
Now come on, we've all been in this situation.
Everyone has. Even if it's just in school, some younger kid is being pushed around by some bigger kid or whatever, right?
Everyone's been in this situation.
And tell me, what did you do?
What did you do? Sorry, it was...
Can you see this finger?
Look at this finger compared to this finger while we wait.
This finger on the left, much bigger, right?
I can't bend it much past here at the moment.
Volleyball can sometimes be quite cruel.
Somebody says, I tried to help, ended up getting choked out.
Right. Somebody says, a keg party.
Some guy was threatening to, I won't hit a woman, but I'll hit a bitch.
You ended up pepper spraying him.
I don't get involved.
Somebody says, I don't feel so bad for an adult woman being abused because she chose that relationship.
Is it bad to curse around your children?
I've been so desensitized and I see society heading in a direction where they are just regular words.
I don't think you should curse around your children.
Somebody says, approached with a group and got him to stop.
It's like the New York subway guy, yeah, got thrown in jail.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
You can't really get involved anymore or you will end up in jail.
I mean, yeah, I guess you can call the cops or whatever, right?
And then they can arrest him and set him free the next day or whatever, right?
But yeah, are you obligated to, let's say a woman is getting pushed around by a guy,
are you obligated to jump in and try to save her?
People say no, no obligation on my part, no.
Bye.
Me and my wife saw a guy threatening a woman.
We both shouted at him to stop, but he got aggressive at me and my wife.
We managed to calm him, but it was a lucky escape for us.
Failure to render aid.
I don't know. Is that a legal term?
I don't know. I mean, I've mentioned this story before.
I was once outside of McDonald's downtown and there was a woman in a wheelchair being threatened by this big black fellow and he was kind of leaning over and shaking the hands of her wheelchair and screaming at her.
And I told him to back off and blah, blah, blah.
I ended up taking this woman for a meal and then she tried to catch me for 50 bucks and stuff like that.
It's like, if she looks like a Democrat woman, don't get involved.
Yeah, I mean, this is what's so boring about politics these days.
It's why it's just robustly uninteresting is that, you know, there are a bunch of women now complaining about the high crime in their neighborhoods after they voted in all of these people who threatened to be soft on...
who basically said, yeah, we're going to be soft on crime.
And, you know, it's a very small number of people that you need to imprison to have a safe society.
It's a very small number of people.
Like, the number of people responsible for most of the shoplifting...
Incidents in a big city, it's like 300 people out of millions.
That old prices law, Pareto Principle hits just about everyone.
It's very easy to make the city safe.
People just don't want to, right? I mean, you see this with El Salvador, right?
So, yeah, it's very easy to make the city safe.
So people, you know, they get all sympathetic and they hear the sob stories of the criminals and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And then they vote in people who are just, you know, they're going to send social workers and be nice.
Okay, well then you're gonna get a lot of crime.
So we did phone the police and the rest of the guy turns out he was mentally ill.
What does that mean? What does mentally ill mean?
It means behavior we can't comprehend.
But people who don't have a conscience act in ways that people with a conscience find
incomprehensible.
Somebody says, wrote up on a guy trading blows with his wife.
I laid on my horn, asked her if she needed help.
She told me to F off.
I avoid places like New York and have no sympathy for people who still live there.
Police have been ruled in the US courts.
They have no obligation to serve or protect.
Yeah, for sure. They never told me, but they said he had a medical thing.
He's having a mental health crisis.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Mental illness is just a place where evil goes to camouflage, right?
I mean, outside of like brain damage, brain injury, straight up schizophrenia or whatever.
And even that has, there's treatable elements according to some places in Denmark and Scandinavia.
they've had pretty good success treating even schizophrenia, even the stuff which
looks completely off the rails.
So yeah, do you have an obligation to protect someone who's being assaulted?
I don't see how or why.
Recently a luxury store fired the workers for calling the police on robbers.
I think that's fake news, to be honest.
I think that's fake news.
I think that, is that the Lululemon store?
Yeah, that's not. So the reason that those workers got fired was because they engaged with the robbers.
I think they chased them down.
And the store has a very clear policy, do not engage with the thieves.
Give them what they want, let them walk out.
And that's for reasons of lawsuits and so on, right?
Thank you for the tip, my friend.
Please don't forget, I work for tips.
Do you have a responsibility to protect?
Not unless they are my kid.
Yeah, of course. I'm not saying you shouldn't or you mustn't, right?
But a stranger in danger?
I can't fathom...
I mean, what kind of terrible self-esteem would you have to say?
It's just a matter of pride, really.
Like, what kind of terrible self-esteem would you have to say that you're willing to risk your life for a perfect stranger?
It means that you consider yourself to be significantly less than the value of the average person.
God, can you imagine?
What a monstrous perspective.
What a monstrous perspective.
That you consider yourself, your life, your security, your safety, your finances, your
legal freedoms, that you consider yourself to be almost infinitely less in value than
just some random person in the middle of the night being pushed around.
Oh gosh, what's that movie with Mickey Rourke?
you I don't hate people, I just seem to feel better when they're not around.
Based on life of Bukowski.
Anyway, he's living as a real trash heap of a place.
Some flophouse, boarding house.
And there's this barfly.
And there's this couple next to him, torturing each other, screaming at each other.
And he tries to intervene and the guy attacks him.
So, living in a world where justice is going by the wayside weighs heavily on me, not gonna lie.
Yeah, for sure, for sure.
But, I mean, the good news, as I've said before, is this current time, everything's so well documented that there will be a complete inoculation as to doing this again.
In the past, all the facts about history were buried under propaganda.
They'd just get buried under propaganda.
Now, everything's being recorded in 60K, 4K, full-on definition.
It's going to be around forever. So the next time people propose seriously stupid shit, they'll just call up all the videos and say, oh no, that's where this leads.
Don't be an idiot. Whereas in the past, you could just rewrite everything and there wasn't vivid eye-camera stuff.
So this is the inoculation.
What if you know of a child who's being abused?
Do you have an obligation to call CBS or something?
I mean, I think you should do something.
I think you should do it anonymously as a whole because you don't want necessarily for the abuser to start targeting you.
I don't know what you do, because I can't provide advice about that.
Private security. Most places say no contact with thieves, which makes having them a placebo for paying customers to
think they're safe.
Really useless being there. Then again, pays minimum wage with no safety equipment as it scares the customers.
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, we're in the tipping point, right?
We're in the tipping point where you get enough dysfunctional behavior and it just tips over and they struggle.
Rather than just being ostracized and attacked and condemned and excluded, they now have money and media attention and particularly if whatever they believe is against Christianity, then they'll just get funded up the yin-yang as an assault upon the universal ethics of Jesus.
It's quite predictable.
You guys haven't stopped shopping in person.
Yeah. So, yeah, if some woman is, honestly, I'd feel some sympathy for sure, and maybe, certainly if I had a phone, I'd call the cops and say, you know, gotta come to this woman, but the idea that I would get in there?
No, no, no. No, no, no, no.
See, here's the thing, right? Violence once uncorked is a real rampaging devil.
Like, it's a real rampaging devil.
I mean, a friend of mine's wife I had to serve on a jury once where a guy was getting pushed around in a bar.
He pushed back. The person slipped backwards, fell back.
They took a couple of steps backwards, staggered backwards, slipped on some suds, fell down some stairs and died.
And now it's like, I don't know, I can't remember if it was manslaughter or something like that.
And it's like, no. Somebody slips, they fall, they hit their head on the side of a table, they fall.
Take out an eye, they, you know, break their arm or whatever, and yeah, welcome to, you know, they'll have all these ambulance-chasing lawyers who are going to come up and say, oh, I can get you all this money, and so on, right?
And, you know, that's just not a good deal.
You know, most people are very happy.
Most people are very happy to use violence to get what they want.
Most people are very, very happy to use violence.
I mean, they vote for stuff.
They want laws. They want people thrown in jail for disagreeing with them.
You know, like most people are very, very happy.
And in fact, they're eager to use violence to get what they want.
Now, they don't want to use personal violence.
They want it abstracted in the form of laws and the state and so on.
But yeah, they're perfectly happy to use violence to get what they want.
And so if they're in a situation of violence, and, you know, they're already worshipping that God, that devil, right?
They're already worshipping at the feet of the devil of violence.
So if violence consumes them, you know, it's like, yeah, well, I wouldn't choose that path if I were you.
you, I wouldn't choose that path.
Somebody says I'd be mad if a friend of mine risked themselves for that.
Yeah, for sure. And here's the thing too, right?
When you are directly participating in a particular situation and you have, like, you know what it is, then you think that your direct experience of the situation, and even video, that your direct experience of the situation is going to have some effect on how people perceive it, right?
This is a grave, grave, highly dangerous error.
So you have a situation, you're experiencing it directly, your friend is filming it, and you truly think that those facts, your experience and the video, is going to exonerate you.
It won't as a whole.
We're in a place now where even video doesn't exonerate people.
Even genuine facts in video do not exonerate people.
They will selectively edit.
I mean, that's what they did with Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman.
They selectively edited. I think he sued and lost.
I have no idea why. But they selectively edited it to make him sound racist.
And you've got the fine people hoax where, you know, they say, oh, Donald Trump is supporting this group of people when he actually condemned them very clearly and specifically in that video.
So you think that, oh man, the facts are on my side.
It's like, nope. I mean, facts don't matter.
That's the way we live in a world. The facts don't matter.
Narrative matters. Advancing the revolution, that matters.
So, to people who would be happy to choose violence, how are we supposed to feel if violence happens to them?
I don't feel happy about it, but I don't lose sleep over it.
You know, if some woman...
Dates a guy who is clearly violent, is clearly dysfunctional, is clearly messed up.
And everyone tells her this guy is really dangerous, he's really got a criminal history, he's tattoos all over his face or whatever, like he's just clearly a messed up guy.
And she, I don't know, turned on by him or he's sexy for her or something like that.
And then she ends up in a situation of violence.
Yeah, the guy's wrong. Absolutely.
The guy's wrong. The guy should be punished.
He initiated the use of force.
How much sympathy do we have for people who walk slowly and steadily into disaster?
Let's say you see a small kid running towards traffic and have an opportunity
to grab him.
There's no risk to yourself. All upside and no downside.
Sure. Yeah, I mean, I get that for sure.
But that's a kid, right? That's a difference. That's why I had an adult situation.
Somebody says, we get trolls in the chat and they just make up stuff.
Around things in podcasts, stuff that was written.
And even if you can call them out, they just squirm out of it and continue trolling.
Yeah, for sure. I try not to interfere too much in the completely obvious consequences of people's decisions.
If people choose obvious risks and end up in bad situations, I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do about it.
I can't care about people more than they care about themselves.
I mean, literally, you can't care about people more than they care about themselves.
So if people put themselves in risky situations, if they, whatever, right?
I'm like, yeah, that's a shame.
Oh yeah, like you read about it, the women who were like, well my husband works in the
oil and gas industry and after Biden got in he shut down this whole thing and now we can't
It's like, what can you say?
Yeah, don't stand between a person and the consequences of their choices.
For sure. Yeah.
Yeah, for sure. The pack-a-day smoker who gets lung cancer.
Well, sorry for them, but they rolled the dice.
Instead, I will save my sympathy and empathy for the five-year-old with leukemia.
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's not like I don't want people to get sick.
I don't know, you know.
I mean, hit me with a why if you know anyone who's been injured by the Vax.
Yeah, not yet. Why, why, why?
Yeah.
I mean, we assume. It's hard to know the causality, but there seems to be some fairly clear stuff.
What can you say? Jamie Foxx, yeah, didn't they say he got blinded and he's paralyzed?
I don't know what the facts are.
But it's funny because people are saying, well, Jamie Foxx, he was forced to take the vax.
No, he wasn't. No, he wasn't.
He wasn't forced to take the vax.
I mean, maybe he signed a contract and in that contract there was fine print, reasonable medical, blah, blah, blah.
But, you know, man, he's not, wasn't, that didn't hold him down and force him, right?
So I don't...
I'm not invested in giving people sympathy when they make bad decisions.
I don't give them hatred.
But I don't have sympathy for people who've made bad decisions because I'm not an enabler.
If somebody was a drug addict, I wouldn't give that person drugs.
If somebody was a gambling addict, I wouldn't give that person money.
I don't enable people by giving them sympathy for the entirely predictable results of their
own bad decisions.
So yeah, as far as some woman is out there in the middle of the night and her boyfriend
is like pushing her around and stuff like that, yeah, I think call the cops or whatever,
But the idea that I would jump in and try and save her from the guy she's dating?
I mean, the guy she's dating is wrong, for sure.
I don't know. Maybe she's turned on by her.
Maybe she's got a masochism fetish.
Maybe this is their role play.
Maybe this is their sex play.
I don't know. But there's no faster way sometimes to...
There's no faster way to get two people to turn on you than to interrupt both of their dysfunctions at the same time.
And they'll just turn on you, right?
All right. Yeah, I save my love and my affection and my attachment.
I save that for the people who are great and wonderful and virtuous and fun and caring and thoughtful.
This idea that we live to save the world and I mean nobody here is Jesus, right?
Yeah, don't rush to assume things unless you know a situation on a personal level.
Yeah, for sure.
All right.
Are you guys curious about the AI stuff that we've been working on?
I don't want to bore people if you're not interested in it, and it's not personal, but if you'd like to know about the AI stuff, I'd be happy to let you know what's been going down.
All right. All right.
So, this is pretty wild to me.
This is pretty wild to me.
So we asked the AI, please give me 10 trivia questions based on Stéphane Molyneux's writings.
Please give me 10 trivia questions based on Stéphane Molyneux's writings.
These were tough questions.
These were tough questions. Would you like to hear them?
Hit me with a why if you'd like to hear the questions that AI came up with after consuming my work.
Yeah? I'm sorry. I don't mean to mean that, you know, are you guys having fun?
Are you having a great time?
What's the people saying? No, you suck, right?
Okay. Yes, and extra credit.
All right. So, hit me with your answers to these.
I'm curious what you guys get.
Here's your quiz. I told you it was going to be a quiz tonight.
Were you able to answer the trivia questions?
I was. But they weren't easy.
All right, what does Stefan Molyneux argue is the danger of inventing imaginary entities
such as God and the state to answer questions about morality?
One more time, what does Stefan Molyneux argue is the danger of inventing imaginary entities
such as God and the state to answer questions about morality?
I'll put it here in the chat as well.
I'm gonna go to sleep.
What is the question?
What is the problem?
What is the negative? And it's pretty cool to me because it seems like thinking.
This is more than just a word guessing, right?
Somebody says, it causes there to be separate moralities applied to separate groups of people.
Who channels these entities who create a priestly class?
It's an abstraction and not an instance.
Anyone can abuse an abstraction.
E.g. Fauci saying, he is the science.
Get your Fauci ouchie.
Lack of objective perspective.
All right. It allows people to be subjective and use violence to get what they want.
Yeah. Yeah. Denies responsibility for fixing a problem and for creating it.
Alright, so the question, here's the answer.
The danger of inventing imaginary entities such as God and the state to answer questions about morality is that it provides the illusion of an answer, which in general negates the pursuit of truth and prevents the development of real understanding.
Yes, that is the closest, I think, to the answer.
I mean, that's what I got, right?
You think you've answered the question, but you haven't, so you stop trying to answer the question.
So, yeah, I thought that was a pretty good answer.
All right. Your answers are correct as well, and I'm sure I've said those at some point, but I think this sort of in terms of the core thing, this is when it comes, you know, what's the most important Stanley Kubrick film?
It's a little subjective, right?
But I think that's probably the closest, right?
All right. Here's the second question.
According to Stefan Molyneux, what is the result of presenting false answers to moral questions?
What is the result of presenting false answers to moral questions?
Straight to hell!
Same answer as the last one.
You quit looking. Similar to the first people defer to the answer providers.
Is it another illusion of an answer?
To paralyze. All very good.
All very good. All very good answers.
Right, so here's the answer that the AI came up with.
I think these would be interesting to ask an answer for people.
Presenting false answers to moral questions results in questioning those answers becoming a moral crime and those who profit from those illusions end up using violence to defend their lies.
So presenting false answers to moral questions results in questioning those answers becoming a moral crime and those who profit from those illusions end up using violence to defend their lies, right?
False answers to moral questions, it's a house of cards, right?
So anyone who then questions those false answers, it becomes hate speech, a moral crime, that kind of stuff, right?
People who have bad arguments always turn to violence.
I mean, that's how you know an argument is bad, right?
Heretics, that's right. When it's on the internet, virtue signaling and an epidemic of nonsense.
Don't you see the apple on the table?
FDR 70?
Is that right? 70? I still remember coming out of the dentist and doing that podcast.
All right. Here is the next question.
In the Socratic method, what does Stefan suggest to say to someone who gets angry with you for asking questions they don't want to answer?
In the Socratic method, what does Stefan suggest to say to someone who gets angry with you for asking questions they
don't want to answer?
Uhhhhhh...
Let's see here... I'll just wait for people to type.
How was your childhood? Goodbye.
Well, that's similar to the question I asked earlier.
Now, wouldn't it be kind of cool?
I see that this upsets you.
Acknowledged feelings, not statements.
Acknowledged feelings, not statements.
It depends on the goal of the interaction.
Is it a public debate or a private conversation?
I think this is a private conversation.
Alright, so here the answer is, in the Socratic Method, Stefan suggests responding with humor
to help the person laugh at themselves and recognize they may not have all the answers.
Thanks.
I think that's more true in the call-in shows.
To me, that would be a little bit less true in a more formal debate or something like that.
But in the call-in shows, I will often poke fun at people for pretending they don't have answers or for getting the obviously wrong answers and so on, just as I poke fun at myself for doing the same thing.
All right. This one, saying, you lose, with an Arnie style voice.
Yeah, yeah. Okay. Who does Stefan Molyneux consider to be the first victims of exploitative falsehoods?
Who does Stefan Molyneux consider to be the first victims of exploitative falsehoods?
Now, you guys got to get this one.
You got to get, yeah, boom, boom, boom, right there, baby.
Right there. The answer is, children are considered the first victims of exploitative falsets.
That is correct. Hit me with a Y if you want me to keep going, if you find these AI-generated trivia questions interesting.
You want to keep going? Okay.
Good. You're enjoying this. Yay!
Yay. All right. All right.
What did Stéphane Molyneux think about the libertarian functions he attended when he was younger?
What did Stefan Molyneux think about the libertarian functions he attended when he was younger?
They were great sausage-fist not based enough Walter Block sucks for supporting spanking.
Yes, fair.
They were a circle jerk. Now, again, I'm just telling you what the AI... Filled with a bunch of stone is the whole place would smell of weed.
Peaceful parenting absent.
Not related enough to actionable behaviors of morality.
They were self-masturbatory.
I believe that would be redundant.
Other masturbatory would be a handjob.
A handjob.
I don't know that. I am not Stefan Molyneux.
And didn't ask him. Well, actually, you are...
Bunch of Kamis. Not enough attendees.
It's funny. All right.
Pointless. Okay. Okay.
No, this is what the answer is.
Stefan Molyneux does not provide specific details about his thoughts on libertarian functions he attended when he was younger.
So I'm just telling you what they came up with.
So it's kind of like, what's the answer to this?
Oh, psych. No answer.
Just kidding. Just fooling around.
It's a trick question, right? So obviously we have found the seed of evil and it is AI. All right.
According to Stefan Molyneux, why do the youngest members of a movement often ask the most intelligent questions?
According to Stefan, why do the youngest members of a movement often ask the most intelligent questions?
They haven't gone to public school long enough.
They have the least to lose. They have less to lose.
They haven't crystallized their thinking patterns.
They are not as indoctrinated.
Lack of pre-existing assumptions.
Yeah, that's good.
They are tied into the dogma or exposed to new ideas.
They are not tied into the dogma.
I don't know what that means. They have an easy time getting out of the movement.
They are closer to their true self.
They aren't. Okay, yet to be brainwashed.
Okay, so the answer is, Stefan believes that the youngest members of a movement often ask the most intelligent question because they are not yet corrupted by groupthink and have a fresh perspective.
When you're new to a movement, then you don't have a job in that movement.
You don't have contacts. It's not your career.
It's not your social circle.
When you're new to a movement, you can come in and you're not bought and paid for by that movement, so you can be more critical and objective, I think.
All right. Hit me with a why.
You want to do a couple more? Right.
Hell yeah! All right.
Here we go. Why does Stefan believe that questioning false moral answers often becomes a moral crime?
Why does Stefan believe that questioning false moral answers often becomes a moral crime?
Why does Stefan believe that questioning false moral answers often becomes a moral crime?
I feel like I'm in the most intimate and philosophical game show in human history.
False moral answers are used by the ruling class because it brings down the reigning power structure.
People that benefit from false assumptions seek retaliation.
It's all fantastic.
You guys are getting an A. It's the PhD that doesn't stand for piled higher and deeper.
To silence critical thinking that could take power away from addicts?
Yeah, fantastic. Fantastic.
Ooh, I'm getting goosebumps with the brainiacs in the chat here.
Which AI platform did these questions come from?
Mine! Mine!
All right. So, threatens those who benefit from the false moral answers, most of the time people in power.
Yes. So the answer the AI gave is, Stefan believes that questioning false moral answers becomes a moral crime because those who profit from the illusions use violence to defend their lies.
Yes, this is a specific trained Steph bot.
All right. Let's see here.
What does Stefan consider the main reason for trying to help young people understand complex ideas?
What does Stefan consider the main reason for trying to help young people understand complex ideas?
Life is complex, only on your corpus of work, including other works you've selected.
Or including... No, this is just me.
It's a Steph bot. Let's see here.
Nothing more dangerous than a desperate addict.
Yeah, it's true. The golden mean is important.
That's more Aristotelian. Philosophy leads to virtue, leads to happiness.
It can help them become better individual thinkers and not go with the herd.
If you go with the herd, you will get conformity, and conformity is the opposite of love.
Conformity is blending into the background.
Love is standing out in the foreground of someone's heart.
Leading people to the oasis of truth.
They will raise better children. Alright, good.
So, to the answer of the question, what does Stefan consider the main reason for trying to help young people understand complex ideas?
The AI provides as the answer helps them not be NPCs.
Stefan considers the main reason for trying to help young people understand complex ideas is to foster critical thinking and curiosity, allowing them to develop their own thoughts and opinions.
Yeah, so I think that's a little generic.
But not too bad.
All right. Here's one more.
Let's do one more. Let's do one more.
We could do millions, right?
What did Stefan Molyneux suggest to a young man who wanted to start or was starting a libertarian club at his university?
What did Stefan Molyneux suggest to a young man who started a libertarian club at his university?
His being... Wrong place.
Well, this was wild. Don't do it.
Get swole. Hire a bodyguard.
No! I can feast deep on the cynicism.
Write a will. Oh, God.
Oh, no. Start a commie club instead and get the bag.
I don't know what the bag means in this context.
Invest in bodyguards. Go to freedomain.com slash donate.
Absolutely. Do it anonymously.
Quit university. Boy.
Wow. I did have a capital.
I was in a libertarian club when I was in university and a debating club.
Watch your back. Don't!
Right, right. Alright, so...
It's very funny answers, by the way.
Don't take funding from the uni, right?
Yeah, it's funny how we are...
It's funny how we are in that phase now where the devil is collecting, right?
We're in this phase where, you know, we need public health agencies and governing bodies and regulatory bodies in order to, you know, protect people from bad actors in the medical field and blah, blah, blah.
All of that sort of stuff, right? And, like, maybe that worked for a little while, but now it's all, you know, well, we've got to fund these things so that they get, you know, can do good works, and now the funding, if you don't conform, the funding is just going to get pulled.
So now we're in the sort of pay-the-devil, right?
Less painful, more pleasant ways to ruin your life.
All right. So, Stefan's suggestion is the answer.
Stefan's suggestion to a young man who started a libertarian club at his university was to avoid being the libertarian loudmouth and to focus on fostering open-minded discussions.
Yeah, you don't want to just be that guy who's all push and no pull, right?
Have you ever considered something like the Ron Paul curriculum or the Robert Lefebvre Freedom University?
Yeah, no, I've thought about those sorts of things.
I've even talked about it from people from time to time.
I would say that at the moment I have a couple more years of parenthood.
I have a couple more years of parenthood and I really don't want to take on any big giant projects that are going to take away that last couple of years.
I'm in the payoff phase of parenthood.
I mean, my daughter is just beyond wonderful and she's just so much fun to spend time with and it's just such a deep and great pleasure.
And it's great to watch her, you know, her popularity with her friends and with boys and all of that sort of stuff.
I mean, it was just... I won't get into details, but Girl's Got Game.
It's beautiful to see. And so, you know, I could start some big-ass thing, but that would just have me last, you know, the last couple of years should be home.
I want to enjoy that.
All right. Last one.
Nobody has earned it more.
Thank you. I appreciate that.
What is the main goal of using the Socratic method in a discussion, according to Stefan?
What is the main goal of using the Socratic method in a discussion, according to Stefan?
That's the last one, right?
So that is, sorry, one, two, three, four, five.
Okay, so the answer is one, two, three, four, five.
All right. Judging people by their own standards.
Teach a man a fish rather than give a man a fish.
Working together to approximate truth.
Objectivity. Very good.
To find truth. To find truth.
Yeah, I think we're on the same page about that.
Flesh out truth. Yeah, very good.
As a methodology to get rational empirical truth.
Well, Socratic method is more about rational truth than empirical truth because the empirical truth would more be like scientific method or history or some sort of physical test, right?
Develop critical thinking.
Yeah, all excellent, excellent stuff.
.
So the answer, when a process to finding or confirm a conclusion.
Yeah, so the answer that the AI gave is the main goal of using the Socratic method Yes, I think that's very true.
I mean, we don't want to be open-minded to the point where our brains fall out, but we have to all accept the possibility of being exceedingly wrong, and that's important.
Somebody says, I can generate three on the fly.
Oh, sorry, not somebody, Jared.
Okay, yeah, let's do this.
I mean, I'm like Alex Trebek.
I'm so wise because I've been given the answers, right?
Okay, so yeah, let's do three on the fly.
We'll just do the questions.
Just do one cue, then one answer, and we'll do these in a row.
So we'll see. Give me two minutes.
It sounds like my honeymoon.
Will the best Steph bot be the Steph Android?
That's really funny. And listen, hit me with a why if you think this is a good use of our resources to create these kinds of interfaces.
Because we're going to open this up and people can...
Is it a good use?
Is it a good use of our resources?
You want an app? Yeah, listen, I don't know if it's going to be an app, but we'll definitely give it to people to interface with so that you can ask questions and just sort of play around with my sort of collected works.
Will the chatbot be on Android?
It will be available.
Yes, it will be available.
It circumvents people's bias.
Yeah, I think so. Alright, so for all of the dozens of people who said that it's, well, worthwhile, you know what I'm going to ask next, right?
You know what I'm going to ask next, right?
What am I going to... Here's your...
What will Steph ask next if you think it's really, really worthwhile?
Just the tip. I don't do just the tip.
Yeah, if you could, thank you very much.
Do it! Yes, it's expensive and it's pretty time-consuming, and if you could support this effort.
I really, I can't guarantee for you and every individual that it's going to be worthwhile, but I guarantee you that I'm going to be able to provide as much value as humanly possible in this with Jared's illustrious and deep help.
And... Yeah, just post them here.
So, yes. Listen, if you're a subscriber, I really, really appreciate that.
Thank you so much. Don't apologize if you can't tip tonight.
That's totally fine. If you subscribe and so on, beautiful, right?
You've been serving truth for many years.
Yes. If the bot were forced to tell the truth, would it tell us to create it or forget it?
I don't know. So here's a question.
What was the significant discovery made by Galileo that was attacked as heretical due to its contradiction with religious beliefs about the perfection of celestial bodies?
Is that a question from from me?
Yeah, I was a sun-centered solar system, right?
Bye.
I'm out.
But in many ways, Galileo was attacked not for his science, but for his insults to the Pope.
The flat earth goes around the sun, that is correct.
But no, wouldn't it be cool if you could just say, summarize this podcast for me?
God help me. You know, I'll tell you, can I tell you what the great danger is?
I was talking about this with my daughter today.
Can I tell you what the great danger is for AI? For me?
The truly horrifying danger of AI. What is the most dangerous thing that AI has?
And what's the most dangerous advantage AI has on me?
Relative to me. What is the most...
Thank you for the tip. What is the most dangerous?
It gets to the point...
I disavow. I like the shocked face.
It gets to the point. Ah!
To the fun. Thank you, Steph.
I appreciate that. Thank you so much.
Technically, it corkscrews around the sun as the sun pulls the planets through our galaxy.
So I've read. Yes, it does.
Yeah. Yeah, it's a lack of tangents and concise.
Extensive memory. Ah, my memory's not too bad.
The answer is, the significant discovery made by Galileo that was attacked as heretical due to its contradiction with religious belief about the perfection of celestial bodies, oh, was his observation of the moon's mountains and craters.
This discovery highlighted the imperfections of celestial bodies going against the widely accepted religious belief that the heavens were perfect and unblemished.
Isn't that interesting?
Now, I vaguely remember that, but I wouldn't have guessed that.
So, one up.
Because I... Jared, I thought these questions were going to be about me and my philosophy.
Made bad on the queue being off.
Next one will target free domain trivia.
Better. My fault. Okay.
Although, these are good questions, right?
Right. Copernicus proved the heliocentric theory.
Oh, it wasn't Tycho Brahe.
Okay. All right.
Here's the question. What is the central question that Stefan Molyneux often poses...
Regarding the use of force in human life as discussed in one of his podcasts on Free Domain Radio.
There's a bit of a tip that is Free Domain Radio, right?
What is the central question that Stefan Molyneux often poses regarding the use of force in human life as discussed in one of his podcasts on Free Domain Radio?
Let's take a moment here.
When is it justified?
I would not say.
You could be right, but I think that's more generic.
I can think of something more specific.
I can think of something more specific.
Who does it benefit?
Cuerbono is pretty standard.
Think of something more specific to me.
I could be wrong. Is spanking okay?
Yeah, it could be. Again, I don't have the absolute answer.
Self-defense or UPB? No.
I'm going to think...
Have to grab a charger.
What did I miss? Yeah, no, we'll just rewind that again.
Okay, I don't know what the answer is.
It could be any number of things. But my guess would be, yeah, would you advocate for the use of violence against me?
Yeah, the against me argument.
If you're comfortable using violence, would you support, like if you want X, Y, or Z to become law, would you be comfortable with me being thrown into jail for disagreeing with you?
Yeah, would you advocate for the use of violence against me?
I think it's the against me argument.
Damn! I knew that!
Yeah! Ah, here we go.
The central question that Stefan Molyneux often poses regarding the use of force in human life is, is it universally preferable to use force or not?
This question is the basis for many philosophical discussions on Freedom Aid Radio, exploring the moral implications of using force in various scenarios and how it relates to universally preferable behavior.
Alright. Hey, you know what?
I think the against me was later.
I think the against me was later.
So I'm imagining that the questions are more focused on UPB. So that's good.
That's good. Okay, so I'm zero for two.
I'm zero for two. That's fine.
I thought against me was before UPB. No, UPB was real early, man.
So I think it was my second or third article that I ever published was called Proving Libertarian Morality, which was the basis of UPB. So no, UPB was real early.
Real early. That was the second...
I think it was the second book I wrote.
The first book was on Truth, The Tyranny of Illusion, and the second book, I think, was UPB. So it was very...
And UPB, the reason I wrote the book was it was hard to explain, and we were getting into lots of fights on the back-then server that we had.
All right! I consider that Attica was pre-UPB. No, no, the against me argument came later.
So it's good to know. It's good to know.
All right, let's do it again.
My utter failure dissuades me not.
What do we got? I still don't get what the hell was up with David Gordon's response to UPB. Oh, I know, but let's not bother.
Let's not bother about it now.
People like to throw a lot of smoke at UPB because if UPB is solved, you know, this is the old, this is Douglas Adams thing, right?
Like, the philosophers are all protesting the computer that's built to solve the problem of life, the universe, and everything because it'll put them out of a job.
What is the most essential task that faces mankind according to Stefan Molyneux in his book on creating a rational ethical framework?
What is the most essential task that faces mankind, according to Stéphane Molyneux in
his book on creating a rational ethical framework?
Yeah, I don't think it's peaceful parenting.
Bye.
I thought rational ethics existed when I found you and read UPB. I was very relieved.
No, I think that the most essential task is to explain and prove morality that does not require or does not depend upon the morals of a god or the force of a government.
So I think it's to explain secular morality from a philosophical rational perspective without relying on gods or governments.
I don't know if without relying on gods or governments is going to be there, but I think that the peaceful parenting stuff, there's not a lot of peaceful parenting stuff in UPB other than by implication, because it includes spanking, right?
And this one is a little buried.
I think what we have to do is start looking.
The questions are kind of buried a little in here.
What is the most essential task that faces mankind in his book on creating a rational ethical framework?
I would assume it's going to say the most essential task is to create a rational ethical framework or something like that.
Somebody has asked me, would you revisit any parts of UPB? Not arguing against, it's validity, just asking if there's any parts you would edit.
Yeah, I've completely edited UPB and it's in the third section of my book Essential Philosophy.
The first section is Simulation Hypothesis.
The second section is Free Will.
The third section is UPB.
So yes, I rewrote it in a much more concise manner and so on, right?
Let's see here.
Can we do one more?
We don't have an answer. What's the answer?
What do you mean, should we do one more? I don't even know what the answer is.
Answer above? Oh, it was the answer above.
What did I miss here? Oh, A. Oh, no, that's a different one.
Hang on. Oh, answer.
The definition of a rational ethical framework.
Yes. Okay, good. So we got that.
Sorry about that. I like bellowing when I'm completely in the wrong.
So I got one right out of three and then yelled at someone who already gave me the answer to give me an answer.
Of course, my yelling is completely tongue-in-cheek, of course, right?
All right. Yeah, let's do another one.
Iron Lung Molly Meme.
Be a great name for a ska band All right hit me
My poor finger.
My poor finger.
I got fat finger.
What's it called? Fat finger with the two-finger cup typing and stuff, right?
Fat finger. Fat finger, wider than a mile.
All right. Generating.
Sorry, I just looked at my own testicles.
As I am wont to do.
Lol what? Generating.
What term does Stefan Molyneux use to describe a logically consistent and universal moral theory in his book Universally Preferable Behavior?
What term does Stefan Molyneux use to describe a logically consistent and universal moral theory in his book Universally Preferable Behavior?
UPB compliant?
UPB? I think it's just UPB, isn't it?
Molyneuvian. UPB. Interesting.
AI is trolling us. Yeah.
Biology. No.
Stefan-esque. UPB. Yeah, I think the answer is in the question.
All right. Valid? Yeah.
UPP compliant or valid or logical or consistent or something like that.
But I think UPP. Answer!
UPP! Universally Parable Behavior.
All right. That's a little bit embedded.
All right. If you'd like another one, I know Jared works for tips.
So if you'd like another one, hit me with a tip.
Answer! See the answer.
So answer, see question.
If you'd like to, if you want to throw another tip in, we can do another one.
Otherwise we can close things down.
It's up to you. I must be responsible to the Pac-Man consumption needs of the show.
And also for the potential documentary this summer.
Which is going to be some travel.
Some underground stuff.
Let's see. Do people want another question enough to tip?
Do you want an encore?
Are you still on your feet? Not a bad one lined up.
Oh, Jared. All with the overselling.
It's funny. Going once.
Going twice. I have a question.
Oh, so this is a different one. Does UPB apply to eating meat versus animal rights?
UPB does not apply to eating meat versus animal rights.
UPB requires that creatures are able to compare proposed actions to ideal standards.
That's what morality kind of is.
And so animals don't have the capacity.
Animals do not have the capacity to compare proposed actions to ideal standards.
So UPB does not apply to animals.
I said, not bad, not orgasmic.
Have you ever had an orgasm that was just not bad?
Can we propose questions?
If you donate, you can propose I take my pants off.
You can play me like a flute.
I can't even hold my coffee cup up with one hand.
That $100, propose if you take your pants off.
That $100 tipper, I think, has one coming.
You mean a good conscience?
I'm sure he does have a good conscience coming.
A lot of people typing.
Do it! Whoa, pants off!
Wait, hang on. Yeah, I can do pants off.
Um... Listen, if you donated 100, you can ask another question.
Would you sell your soul to be in God's good graces?
No, because God's good graces would only be if I kept my soul, so it would be a false bargain.
We just went OnlyFans, Steph.
I was more in it for the pants off.
Here's a tip. Thanks, Steph. Thank you very much.
Yeah, so you can just hit me with the letter Q if you've donated, whatever.
If you hit me with the letter Q, if you just want a question about Steph, or if you want to, like, Steph's my body of work, or if you want to propose a question, that's fine, too.
So then they just propose the question.
Ah, somebody tipped earlier, what are Steph's thoughts on the term wisdom?
Okay, Jared, could you pump that in?
What are Steph's thoughts on the term wisdom?
I don't think we're going to get much.
I don't think so we don't really have any podcasts in there Ah so
So, let's see here.
We're getting there, I feel it.
Did a great call-in show today about a guy who was really concerned
about his younger siblings being stuck still in an abusive environment.
It's powerful stuff, man.
Powerful stuff, good stuff.
So, this is the reply from the AI.
Estefan Molyneux, I believe...
That wisdom is the result of accumulating knowledge, experience, and understanding over time.
It involves the ability to apply critical thinking and reason to make sound decisions, learn from prior mistakes, and navigate complex situations.
Wisdom also involves recognizing the limitations of one's knowledge and being open to learning from others.
It is a lifelong process of personal growth and introspection that can lead to a more fulfilling and meaningful life.
I feel that's a little generic.
It doesn't sound like me in particular.
It just sounds like fortune cookie general positive stuff.
But, you know, not too bad.
A. Steph thinks the term wisdom is too broad and undefinable.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, it's a bit generic, isn't it?
Sounds just like Steph.
I don't know that it does, because this is just a bunch of positive adjectives, you know, accumulate knowledge, wisdom, and understanding over time.
It's not a rational argument, and so on.
Not that everything I say is a rational argument.
I was just talking about my balls, but it doesn't have a gold padding story.
It doesn't have a gold padding story.
That is funny. All right, let's do one more question.
One more question. Thanks for your tips, everyone.
And of course, if you're listening to this later, if you'd like to fund the hardware and the software and the knowledge and the expertise and the training and all of the stuff that's going into this, if you could go to freedomain.com slash donate, I would really, really appreciate it.
Any new thoughts about AI since your presentation now that you're playing with AI? Yeah, I'll put those into the sort of final presentation on AI. We shouldn't be calling any of it AI anyway because it's something very different.
Yeah, AI is a very not...
It's a word guesser.
It's a word guesser. Which sounds a lot less cool and funky and frankly investable.
Okay, do descriptions of something need to be a rational argument?
Would you say the answer was inaccurate even if it was hallmarky?
I would say the argument is not particularly...
If you say, what do you love about your wife?
Oh, she's wonderful. It's very unspecific.
And so I would say things that tend to be more specific and original as opposed to wisdom is accumulated experience and knowledge about.
it's more of a dictionary definition rather than a philosophical insight if
that makes sense.
I would say so just about every time I do a show and most times that I try to
open my mouth or succeed in opening my mouth I try to provide you something
here that you can't find somewhere else.
Why be here rather than somewhere else?
So I can't do dictionary definitions.
I can't do what everyone else has said.
I can't do stuff that you know already because the value that I provide is to give you something that you can't Get somewhere else, right?
And otherwise, you would get it somewhere else.
I mean, if you have a favorite singer, you like that singer.
So, we could ask StephBot how many times Stefan references his gold panning work up north and break the AI. Very nice.
Very nice. All right.
Do we have any last questions?
It's over 9,000.
Well, 50, 100 and change shows.
Yeah, it could be. But that was a really important time for me, you know, just by the by.
I don't mean to sound defensive, but it's important to me.
No, it taught me a lot about empiricism.
It got me out of my own head and gave me...
Like, having worked with physical danger is really, really important.
I do actually enjoy those stories.
And believe it or not, I haven't told you everything that happened up north, so maybe I'll just do a whole show about everything that happened up north.
Some of the characters I met were truly, like, absolutely out of a Tarantino movie or a Bukowski novel.
Steph, back in your dating days, did women require $500,000 salaries?
Yeah. The fact that men have to earn value but women don't is something that society has been struggled with forever.
True or false, was Steph ever caught digging naked in a ditch?
Well, I can answer that one.
You've been holding out on us with gold panning stories.
Oh, yeah, no, there's, you know, I don't want this to be gold panning stuff story time, but there was some wild stuff that happened up there that I'll get to one day.
I was there like a year and a half almost all told.
Okay, I'll give you one.
Since you're demanding it, there was a stripper up there who picked up coins that you would roll.
I didn't do this, but I heard there was a stripper up there.
You'd roll coins down and she would pick them up.
Let's just leave it at that.
And she would pick them up without using her hands.
Very flexible young lady.
And she could probably do tap dancing with those lips.
It was really something, man.
And, you know, you ever lend something to someone like you don't want it back?
So, you know, I would imagine that any woman who would, like, get coins that way, it's like, honestly, you can keep those coins.
That's fine. That's fine.
All yours. Please don't roll them back.
Of course, if they roll back, they won't get very far.
Oh, gosh. All right.
I'm not repeating that but it was very funny.
Drop a Caribou is from a song, long time running, by the Tragically Hip.
Drop a caribou, drop a caribou, tell on you.
So a drop a caribou is on the quarter, so it used to be a quarter.
So, drop a caribou was...
It took me forever to get that reference.
What the hell does that mean? Drop a caribou.
Tell on you. It's like, I'm going to make a phone call and tell on you.
Weatherman, wet fingers the sky.
I love that line. Weatherman, wet fingers the sky.
I think pretty much this is why they had to go to dollar bills.
Like, they just had, like, too many coins got used up north, and it's just like, done.
My two favorite actors of yours.
You crashing your bike while carrying something because you were fighting with your girlfriend at the time.
Yeah, I'll show you by cracking my arm in two.
Yeah, your acquaintance's girlfriend saying, you think you'd be happier for someone who just got engaged?
Freedom! Yeah, absolutely.
All right. Are we done with questions?
I think we are. Are we done with the show?
I think we are! freedommain.com forward slash donate.
Thank you so much for your time care and attention tonight and
Yeah, did you hear about what's it the ring cameras from Amazon like
Like 3,000 employees could spy on your Bathrooms in your house for a long time.
They just paid, what, 25 million bucks?
What does that mean? Like eight seconds, right?
All right. Thanks everyone so much for dropping by tonight.
What a pleasure to chat with you guys.
I appreciate the tips. If you do want to help out with the show, I'd really, really, really appreciate it.
You can, of course, tip me using the coins at freedomain.locals.com.
You can join up at freedomain.locals.com.
Just try it for a month for free.
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Have yourself a wonderful evening, my gorgeous, gorgeous friends.
And I will talk to you probably this weekend.
I've got a fair amount of work to do this weekend, but hopefully we'll get a call-in show done as well.
And thank you for your patience as we hack through the AI jungle.
It is pretty, pretty wild.
Oh, how nice. There's a picture of me and you.
You and me.
We are destined, you'll agree.
All right. Have a great night, everyone.
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