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May 27, 2023 - Freedomain Radio - Stefan Molyneux

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	Did I see? Did I see a request for a song quiz?
	Oh, this one's a bit of an oldie.
	Well, I think that there's a problem here. Your voice just don't sound right.
	I left myself on the answering machine, said I'm back in town tonight.
	I feel I stepped out of the wilderness all squint-eyed and confused.
	But even babies raised by wolves, they know exactly when they've been used.
	When they start to fall apart, man, they really fall apart.
	Like boots or hearts on, when they start, they really fall apart.
	Fingers and toes, fingers and toes, for the things we share.
	How for the one if you include the fact that we don't care.
	The great song. Wayne Newton!
	No, it's not Wayne Newton, unless he's possessed.
	Expecting some top-notch philosophy tonight.
	The Tragically Hip, yes.
	They are a band with like the best and the worst songs known to man.
	Locked in the Trunk of a Car, fantastic.
	New Orleans is Sinking, fantastic.
	Long Time Running, great.
	Music at work, utter cack.
	Utter cack.
	Yeah, Boots of Hearts. And really great lyrics too, great lyrics.
	Well, good evening.
	Hey baby, I hear the blues are calling, toss salad and scrambled eggs.
	They call it again.
	All right. Well, my friends, what is on your minds tonight?
	I certainly do have questions, comments, issues.
	Hello, Steph. I listened to the present.
	Excellent book. Was a rollercoaster.
	Just started listening to the future.
	Gonna make a request, though.
	If you only have a dollar, please don't send me a dollar.
	I would feel really bad taking your last dollar.
	If you've only got a dollar, hang on to it till that eagle grins, as the old song says.
	So, yes, if you would like to hang on to that, just wait until you've saved up, say, five or ten, and then do it, because, you know, the paperwork is the same.
	And, of course, the overhead, like what I get when you give me a dollar, what I get is fairly not a dollar.
	So, that's just my particular request.
	If you would be so very kind, I would appreciate that.
	Stefan, were the participants of the Milgram experiments evil or stupid?
	My friend thinks they were just stupid.
	I agree that the participants, being human, are evil.
	Lately, I've been telling everyone I have no faith in man, and I don't see anything turning around for the better.
	They think the opposite. People are waking up and have had enough.
	Your thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
	Thank you. All right. Hit me with a why if you know what the Milgram experiments are outside of the Peter Gabriel
	song.
	Yeah, I mean pretty much.
	Milgram experiments are basically you get a guy in a white coat asks for people to volunteer to help people learn stuff.
	And the guys in a white coat sit the person down in front of a button and a voltage meter and through a glass, like a sort of one-way, like an interrogation room, through a glass they see a guy who is actually an actor, but he's pretending to be learning, and they say...
	Ask him questions. When he gets a question wrong, hit him with an electric shock, and then dial it up, dial it up to up to like 450 volts, which is clearly marked as fatal, potentially fatal.
	And the vast majority of people are willing to kill other people if they're told.
	Now, oh, I'm sorry, I haven't really asked if I have permission to swear this evening, because I got some swear-worthy stuff, but I don't want to shock people, which is fine.
	Yes or no? I will absolutely.
	You can swear? Okay.
	I just wanted to check.
	Swear away. We're all sailors here.
	Well, I'll meet you below decks then.
	Fucking swear, bud. Oh, I guess that's a little bit.
	Yeah, it's Friday night. You'll only shock 80% of us with swears.
	All right. How many people would respect a biologist if said biologist studied animals in a zoo and said, well, I know something about animal nature because, you see, I've studied animals in a zoo, right?
	How many of you would be like, damn, that is one fine biologist, man.
	He has really, really studied animals in a zoo and he just understands animal nature.
	A book I read when I was a kid.
	You know what? I've got to get these ages, these dates because...
	Let's see here. I went for a checkup today and they're like, when did you have cancer?
	I'm like, when the hell did I have cancer?
	Eight years ago? Nine years ago?
	Okay, so the book was by Desmond Morris.
	And the book was called The Human Zoo.
	When the hell did that come out? 1969.
	Okay, I didn't read it when I was three, although I do have a distinct memory of watching the moon landing on a really bad black and white TV. So Desmond Morris wrote a book called The Human Zoo in which he says that cities screw up people in the same way that zoos screw up.
	Animals. And I used some of this perspective in the fantastic character of Roman in my novel, The Future, which has now been released to the wild.
	You can get it. You can share it.
	Do whatever you want with it. And I hope that you'll enjoy it.
	You can get it at freedomain.locals.com.
	You can get it in Mobi, in EPUB, audiobook, PDF, you name it, right?
	Where he is, like, highly suspicious of cities.
	And hit me with a why if you've lived.
	Hit me with this.
	Hit me with a Y for city and a C for country.
	Y for city, C for country.
	Country, country, country, country.
	YMCA. Okay, sorry.
	YNC, YNC. Yeah, country was a child after 12 city.
	Yeah, suburbs. I actually go, I knew that a lot of you would, how do I know that a lot of you grew up in the country?
	I knew, I would guess that three quarters of you grew up or lived significant portions of your life when you were young in the country.
	How do I know? Practical, empirical, and a city is sophistry made flesh.
	A city is taking bullshit, piling it high, covering it in concrete, and calling it a civilization as a whole.
	A city is a magnet for thieves, liars, philanderers, sex addicts, drug addicts, and manipulators of every hue, color, political stripe, and hell-sent soullessness.
	Thank you for your tips.
	I really, really appreciate that.
	I hate to say it, the better you tip, the better I do.
	I wish I had more control over that and could provide you absolutely fantastic shows, regardless of tipping, but tipping uncorks the beast within me, so I really, really appreciate it.
	Yeah, cities are a hell on earth, and cities are where civilization...
	The birth of the death of civilization occurs in the crib of the city.
	The birth of the death of the civilization occurs in the crib of the city, so...
	Cities also pull in the highest IQ people.
	Yes, it does. In the same way that flypaper brings in the hungriest flies.
	It pulls in the highest IQ people in order to eat them alive, sell them to the soulless Satan of the sewers and spit them out.
	Ask of what they were when they first came in.
	So, when you say to me...
	It doesn't mean I'm right. I'm just telling you my particular perspective.
	But when you say to me...
	Let's get back to this sort of question.
	Okay, well, what does it mean? Are people just evil because they do what people in white lab coats tell them to do?
	Do you think...
	Do you think that human nature...
	It's not in its current state by specific and demonic design.
	Tell me, do you think, I'm happy to hear this case, man, do you think that human nature as it's currently constituted is not the result of specific and demonic design?
	Of course it is.
	We're not in a natural state.
	We're not in a free, liberated, reasoned with, raised peacefully.
	We're not in that state.
	We are frightened, cornered, catapulted, tasered animals with electrified dildos up the ass, which
	scorch our innards should we dare to indulge in the slightest
	panel plea of wrong think.
	Satan owns the world.
	Designed by who or what?
	Designed by the powers that be.
	There's an instinct for control.
	Some people have evolved to produce and a lot of people have evolved to manipulate and consume.
	It's perfectly natural because people did it to themselves and people are part of nature.
	Bullshit. And actually that's vicious bullshit if you don't mind me saying so.
	I don't say this with hostility.
	I'm just pointing it out. That is vicious bullshit.
	People did it to themselves?
	The fuck are you talking about?
	People did it to themselves?
	Do you think that the average person, when they're born, has designed the systems of subjugation power and
	control that scrub the soul out of them and get it replaced with NPC electroshock
	programming of dopamine pursuit and fear avoidance?
	you People did not do it to themselves.
	People are born and they're broken.
	They're birthed and they're beheaded.
	Right? They swagger out and they're switchbladed.
	So their ancestors did it?
	No, the ancestors didn't do it.
	Ancestors is a big blob that tells you nothing of any content.
	Nature, human expression of life versus natural abuse of accumulated power.
	Do you view your average domesticated animal as self-subjugated?
	Do you view your average chihuahua as, well, you know, the chihuahua just did it to themselves.
	they could be a wolf but they just did it to themselves.
	Who breaks the back of the species?
	Who shatters the soul of the species?
	It's a fundamental question, right?
	And, of course, it's an unholy collusion between political power and parents.
	The parents break the children at home and then they send the children out to be broken into state schools.
	And in return for the parents sending their children to be broken in the state schools, the state says to everyone and culture says to everyone, you have to honor your parents, you have to obey your parents, you have to stay with your parents no matter what.
	I mean, the old bargain was, I will send my children to the priest and the priest will teach the children to obey the parents and obey God who's manifested in the heart, mind and syllables of the priest.
	You take him, you break him, you break him so that he'll always obey me.
	As science grew and succeeded beyond everyone's wildest imagination,
	the single most successful transformation of human thought, arguably on par with or slightly above the free market, was
	the scientific method.
	So with the scientific method, people couldn't as much believe in a God who intervened and Gave favors because God giving favors is violating the scientific laws.
	All favors are miracles and the scientific laws deny the possibility of miracles.
	So people were like, well damn, we can't send our kids to the priest to be enslaved to God and then God's commandments that he be enslaved to us so we don't have to be good parents.
	Would you rather be good parents or would you rather send your children to be indoctrinated to continually bond in the Stockholm Syndrome with bad parents?
	So they switched from The clergy to the public school teachers.
	So no, people did not do it to themselves.
	When I was sent to boarding school at the age of six, or I was caned, beaten, I didn't do that to myself.
	I didn't do it to myself.
	Did you spank yourself at the age of three, or two, or four, or five, or whenever it started for you?
	You didn't spank yourself, didn't do it to yourself.
	So with regards to the Milgram experiments, the Milgram experiments tell you nothing about
	They tell you everything about how human beings have been programmed to obey authority and are terrified of thinking for themselves.
	And look, come on. I mean, everybody knows this.
	Everybody knows this.
	From start to end, from top to bottom, from back to front.
	Inside and out.
	When you were in school and you questioned the teacher or you questioned the value of what you were learning or you found the homework pointless, stupid and boring and could not connect it with anything you ever wanted to do in the real world and you said, fuck telling me about mitosis and meiosis.
	Can you fucking tell me how to start a business or pay my taxes?
	Can you teach me anything of any fucking use whatsoever?
	You useless tits on a bull, wastes of space.
	Could you teach me a little bit about the reality of the political situation that I operate in?
	Could you teach me anything about political philosophy?
	Could you teach me anything about philosophy or virtue or truth at all?
	Or am I going to just sit here going slowly blind as I snigger to myself why the triangle inequality is Theory is not called the Triangle Inequality Theory but is instead called the Triangle Inequality Relation because Triangle Inequality Theory makes Boyce Snigger because the acronym is TIT. Or the OAT, the Opposite Angle Theorem.
	Can I learn anything of any fucking value about my life or the world that I live in or the laws I'm supposed to obey or the economics I'm supposed to navigate my way through?
	Am I going to learn anything of any fucking use whatsoever?
	Or am I going to be stuffed full of useless, amoral garbage that's simply designed to have me bored and controlled?
	Love geometry. Absolutely.
	Then you should enjoy geometry.
	And you should love geometry.
	I love computers, but that didn't mean that everybody should be instructed in computers.
	Milgram did prove the nature of a current society in any case, but we have all been conditioned to obey authority to some degree.
	Of course. Yeah, of course.
	And there's been a tipping point, right?
	And I've lived through this tipping point.
	I've lived through this tipping point. Okay, quick question.
	When I was a kid, why did you obey the rules?
	Why did you obey society? When you...
	When I was a kid, I mean, we're talking like 50 years ago, right?
	When I was a kid 50 years ago, and I was 6 years old 50 years ago, when I was a kid, why did you obey the teacher?
	Why did you obey society? To avoid punishment?
	No. No.
	I mean, that was part of it, obviously, but somebody told me to enforce me.
	Nope. That's not why you obeyed.
	Because you have promised freedom as an adult?
	Well, more than a promise to avoid being drugged?
	No. I was before that time.
	Out of fear? Imitating parents?
	No. No.
	You obeyed the teachers because...
	You got good things at the end of that process.
	You got to graduate and get the fuck out.
	You got to get a job.
	You got to buy a house.
	You got to get a girlfriend.
	You got to have a wife.
	You got to have kids.
	You got to buy a car. You got to get a vacation.
	You got all of this beautiful pot of gold at the end of this slippery, slidey, Vaseline-soaked bullshit rainbow they made you ride over.
	Why did you obey your teachers?
	Because they held the keys to the golden kingdom.
	They held the keys to the gate that got you through to a productive and relatively happy middle to upper middle class life.
	That's why you obeyed.
	Because they had things to offer.
	Now, this is because you're younger and that's why I was talking about me, not you.
	Now, why do you obey the teacher?
	Back then, you had lots of good things to look forward to.
	I remember as a little kid, I remember when I first did the calculation, I don't know, I was like seven or eight years old, and I was like, damn, I'm going to be 34 in the year 2000.
	Gosh, I wonder what my life's going to be like in that science fiction future of the year 2000.
	I bet you I'm going to be wearing a nice suit and a tie.
	I'm going to be working in an office.
	I'm going to be striding confidently.
	I'm going to have a red car. I have a wife, maybe some kids already.
	Boom! It's going to be great.
	All I have to do is stick on the straight and narrow.
	I get all this great shit on the other side.
	You'd think life skills like balancing a budget and good nutrition, food prep might be included in everyone's basic
	formal training.
	And when I was 34 I had a good job actually.
	I actually did have a red car.
	I worked at a nice office, strode the hallways.
	I was managing like 30 people.
	I had 30 employees at the age of 34.
	So yeah, why do people obey now?
	Dangerous women, teachers and authorities no longer cloak their threats with promises.
	Well, it's the carrot or the stick, right?
	You obeyed, of course there was a stick, you'd get punished, but you obeyed because if you obeyed, you got great things.
	You were bribed with the opportunity of a good future.
	Hit me with a Y if you still believe in that possibility of a good future when you're 30.
	Hit me with a Y if you believe in that good future when you're 30.
	You obey the rules, you toe the line, you walk the straight and narrow, you go through the portal, you get to the promised land.
	Maybe if AI grows the economy a ton.
	30 yes, 31, not so much.
	Yeah, well, it could be down to the wire.
	So Milgram doesn't tell you anything other than society has invested a huge amount of time, effort, money, and emotional terrorism, and physical punishment.
	And now, drugging, right?
	Why do you obey now? Because you're terrified of getting drugged, right?
	That's why you got up and you clapped for Stalin in the Soviet Union, because if you didn't, Well, obviously communism is perfect, and if you disagree that communism is perfect, clearly you have a mental illness and you need to be thrown into a mental institution and drugged to the point of near Catatonia.
	I mean, you know the story, right?
	I think it's talked about in the Gulag Archipelago by Solzhenitsyn that people were applauding, were applauding!
	Stalin, or one of Stalin's functionaries, one of his bureaucrats, his majordomos, and nobody wanted to be the first person to stop applauding.
	So they all applauded until their hands were like bloody.
	Nobody wanted to be the first to stop.
	A trained seal begging for life.
	That's what a lot of the 20th century is.
	And of course a lot before that too.
	So no, I don't view...
	And don't fall...
	Despair is a real sin, right?
	And they want you to think that by breaking the backs of children, they want you to think that you have now learned something deep and wise about human nature as a whole.
	No you haven't. No you haven't.
	Any more than you've learned about animals in their natural state by studying them in the zoo.
	All you've learned is that the current system breaks people.
	It breaks people.
	And the lust to break others is very deeply embedded in certain sadistic personalities.
	Like the lust to break and control others because it's so profitable to break people. You get them to work for you,
	you get them to hand over their resources, they're too demoralized to
	fight back. Breaking people is great.
	The problem is that breaking people just gets more and more and more and then what happens is they get so broken
	that they turn to fentanyl.
	They get so broken that they commit suicide.
	They get so broken that they're too depressed to work.
	They get so broken that they end up on welfare.
	And breaking people to get them to obey you leads to breaking people to the point where they can't even work.
	And then your society goes tits up, right?
	Alright, listen, I'm here for you guys.
	Thank you for joining me tonight.
	It's a great pleasure to chat and thank you for your patience as I arrived spectacularly late in a truly Marilyn Monroe fashion.
	But I'm here for you.
	I'm here for your questions, your issues.
	I certainly have a rant in me, but I want to be sensitive to what you...
	Do people get broken at work too?
	Not as much, although probably as now, probably as now.
	Now you get broken because everybody's so hysterical and hypersensitive about any perceived slight that I imagine that going to work these days must be like walking on tectonic eggshells heavily laced with blood and fentanyl.
	It's got to be a real dance down the shifting sands corridors of people's hysteria being at work these days.
	My gosh. Q for questions, R for rant.
	I'm here. I am your slave.
	Cue for questions, offer it.
	Now, Joe, did I give you an either-or choice there?
	You must écouter, écouter, écouter.
	You must listen, my friend.
	You must listen. Why I try to only work alone.
	I've been praying to God to give you faith.
	I appreciate that. I really do.
	That's a very, very thoughtful sentiment.
	I really appreciate that. It's very kind.
	God, it would be great if you granted me faith.
	All right. It would be nice not to have to stare down the evils of the world with only my reason as my horse and shield.
	Rant? People want the rant.
	Are you sure? It's a little fucked up, to be honest with you.
	You want the rant? You want the rant?
	Okay. I am your willing thought slave, as always.
	All right. This rant is called, Fuck Being First.
	It's a little spicy. This rant is called...
	Fuck being first.
	A rant with a good ending. I have no idea how to end these.
	Usually they come in alright.
	Yeah, fuck being first.
	What am I talking about when I say...
	Fuck being first. What, uh...
	What am I talking about?
	What am I going to rant about?
	Sounds like Western government policy?
	Uh, no. Yes, somebody did make a Discord chat for praying together for me and others, and I appreciate that.
	Dating single moms? No, that's definitely not being first.
	First to talk about UPB? A Russell Crowe movie about math?
	Beautiful mind? I don't get that reference.
	Well... I will ask you, I will ask you, what did I talk about first or very early that now is part of the general conversation of the world?
	If you're on social media or whatever, what are people talking about that I talked about years and years and years ago?
	Hey, are they talking about corruption in Ukraine?
	Yep. Nine years ago.
	Oh, are they talking about global warming and there's now been nine or seven or nine years without any global warming at all?
	Yep. That's 17 years ago.
	Are they talking about crime?
	Are they talking about IQ? Are they talking about all of these things that I did years and years and years ago?
	Are they talking about female depression?
	From childlessness. Are they talking about the dangers of date and single moms?
	Are they talking about the epidemic of fatherlessness, which I did 15 years ago?
	And its negative effects on society?
	Oh, I got one. I got one.
	Are they talking about, oh, I don't know, corruption in science?
	The lack of replicatability of significant, massive, deep scientific...
	Experiments? You can't reproduce them?
	Oh, I got another one. You can look up fdrpodcast.com.
	I did a show, I don't know, probably 12, 13, 14 years ago, called The Myth of Mental Illness.
	Are they talking about the fact that antidepressants don't seem to be dealing with any particular brain chemistry that's out of the way?
	Oh, daycare! Yeah, anybody talking about daycare and its problems these days?
	I tell you, man, fuck being first.
	Let me tell you what the experience is of being first.
	Let me tell you what the experience is of being first.
	Hit me with a Y if you find me a bitter person in general.
	Just hit me with a Y if you find me a bitter person in general.
	You don't? Well, I can change that tonight!
	Surprisingly, no. Okay.
	A little bit. A little bit.
	A little bit bitter. A little bit fucking bitter.
	Okay. So, you know when...
	A pioneering woman who forged ahead and opened doors for other women when she retires or she gets old or something like that.
	And, you know, black actress, Sidney Poitier and so on.
	Like the trailblazers, the icebreakers.
	What happens later on when people who are younger and go through the past that these pioneers forged, what happens when they talk about these older people?
	What happens? What do they say?
	What do they say? I know, it's a long...
	Voice dictate, people.
	Get there faster. What do they say?
	Oh, yeah. Oh, that person.
	Oh, that person.
	Boy, without that person, we just wouldn't be here.
	Without that person blazing the trail and breaking through that glass ceiling
	or breaking through this prejudice or this resistance, without that person, man, we wouldn't, I wouldn't be here.
	Unless you're a philosopher.
	Unless you're a philosopher.
	What happens if you're a philosopher?
	Well, you're there 10 to 15 years before everyone else, as a whole.
	You're there 10 to 15 years before everyone else, at a minimum, at a minimum.
	And, oh, I got a quick question.
	How long ago did I say existing government policies would not work?
	It doesn't really matter which ones.
	How long ago? 19 years ago?
	Since 2006, 2005 is when I first began publishing.
	And in fact, yeah, honestly, it's 40 years.
	41 years. I started philosophy when I was 15, first began to find out about the free market, the non-aggression principle, the nature of the violation of property rights, and so on.
	And I was like, yeah, 41 years, right?
	Shit's not going to work. It's not going to work.
	It's not going to work. There's no government program that works at all.
	It achieves the opposite of a stated goal, blah, blah, blah, right?
	Oh, who was it who said in April of 2020, a couple of months into the pandemic, who was it who said that the lockdowns for sure were going to cause more death and illness than COVID? I mean, I mean that one wasn't even particularly tough right?
	Who said that who said just from a personal level that
	I wanted to know which steps of the testing were bypassed in the creation of the COVID vaccines?
	and who himself wouldn't let those pricks near me if I had to call in Gabriel's wings to keep me from those jabs.
	How much fun do you think it is being first?
	...
	...
	And, I mean, honestly, I could go on and on and on, and obviously I've gotten some things wrong.
	wrong I'm not perfect but you know my track record is pretty fucking great
	also also you sure made breaking news pretty boring Steph heard it from you years ago.
	Yeah. No, it's not lonely at the top.
	I don't mind the top.
	I'm always aiming for the top.
	I don't mind that. I don't mind that.
	Ooh, ooh, I got a question.
	When I said that you don't have to spend time with relentlessly abusive parents, I mean, I was raked over the coals and considered to be something that crawls in centipede-like fiery lava pit ways out of Satan's armpit.
	Is this such a radical idea now that you don't have to spend time with relentlessly abusive parents?
	I mean, it's mainstream now.
	now it's right there on the Dr. Phil website.
	Jeanette McCurdy got a new book bestseller.
	Absolutely. I got a lot of people ready for shortages at the beginning of the pandemic.
	I was the one right at the beginning said this COVID is going to be a huge deal.
	It's going to be a huge deal.
	I was cautious because I knew...
	Oh, I got a quick question for you.
	Who was the one who said there's no way this came from nature?
	There's no way this came from nature.
	There's no way. That this came from nature.
	In fact, I have a whole presentation called The Case Against China.
	Whole presentation. You can go and find it.
	It's all out there. It's actually on the blockchain.
	Who said no way?
	No way it came from nature. So, again, it's not a toot my own horn situation.
	It's really not that complicated once you get some basic principles.
	So I don't consider myself, you know, the brilliance, if there is any such thing in me, it's in the principles.
	It's not, right? All of that, right?
	So as far as, like, things that I got right.
	Things that I got right. I said immigration was going to drive crime.
	Anyway, all of these things, right?
	I mean, all of these things.
	Right, right, right, right, right. And it's really tough being first.
	Now, honestly, I'm not saying I'm first in everything.
	It's slightly more emphatic than saying I was early.
	I'm sure you can find people who've said things earlier than me.
	Somebody says, I followed your updates about it in January 2020 before the mainstream news even caught wind of it.
	Yep, I put out really important news I said COVID is going to be a huge deal.
	It's going to be a pandemic. It's going to be a huge deal.
	I said that in January of 2020.
	Actually Steph, you were the first to take COVID seriously while other people virtue signaled through Chinatown in
	February 2020.
	Yeah, well and then if you look back I I talked about Ebola I talked about other viruses and told you it wasn't bit
	It wasn't huge, right?
	Yeah, I did pretty regular covered updates You
	You Thank you.
	Now, here's the problem, right?
	Oh, also, do you remember, do you happen to remember, of course, that I did talk about NATO expansion being bad, heading towards Ukraine?
	And, oh, yes, do you remember me talking at all about, oh, what was it?
	What was it now? I just thought of this the other day.
	I just saw it the other day.
	Anyway, it'll come back to me.
	It'll come back to me. So, yeah, fuck being first, man.
	I'm done with it. I've done it for 41 years in public for, I don't know, 17 or 18 years.
	Oh yeah, how many people are talking about, boy, you know, there's real parallels between the fall of Rome and the modern West, blah, blah, blah, right?
	Yeah, I remember, you know, the people who helped Trump get elected helped prevent Hillary's stated goal to go to war with Russia.
	So yeah, the Dems want war with Russia, absolutely, because they've never forgiven Russia for
	becoming ex-communist.
	Oh, oh yeah, here's another one.
	Here's another one. Do you remember me talking about this way back in the day?
	That the Russia collusion conspiracy theory was a complete hoax.
	Anybody remember me talking about that way back in the days of politics?
	You remember that, right? Funny story.
	After the Durham report, it's all confirmed.
	Oh my god, it's so boring.
	Get there faster, world!
	It's so blindingly obvious that people are like, no, no, no.
	We have to wait. I remember when I said that...
	Yeah, that climate change and carbon taxes weren't based in science.
	When I blew apart that whole 97% consensus thing.
	Remember me talking about Bitcoin in 2011 when it was about 4 cents a piece?
	Anyway, so you understand, right?
	So being first doesn't work.
	Okay, so here's the question, right?
	So when you're first, okay...
	When you're first, you get some honor, often posthumously, right?
	You get some honor. Oh yeah, he was first, right?
	But you also get all the machetes and all the arrows and all the bullets, right?
	Unless you get like 5,000 lasers on what admittedly is not the smallest forehead in the known universe.
	It took Durham seven years to reach a conclusion.
	It took Steph two weeks. And I told you nobody was going to be punished.
	And I told you that Trump was going to be elected.
	right so all right so you say well you know you get the honor
	You get the honor of being first.
	Well, I mean, unless I'm just giving medal ceremonies to myself in my pantry, I'm not sure where the honor is, right?
	Because what happens is you're first, and then you get viciously attacked.
	Most people stand back, and then you get disappeared from society, and then everyone talks about these things like you were never there.
	Right? I mean, I have been the rightiest...
	One of the rightiest people in the world for the last 41 years.
	And then what?
	Then what?
	Then you vanish.
	Thank you.
	People talk about things like you were never there.
	There's no credit. And I said this a couple of months ago about being first, right?
	That if you're first, what always happens is you get viciously attacked, everybody runs away, and then they talk about these things like they've always been fairly self-evident and they will never ever give you any credit.
	I mean, it's just the way that things are, right?
	Now, listen... I honestly, I mean, I don't mind at all.
	In fact, I think there's real pluses, real pluses in being off politics.
	I mean politics has become a pretty deadly blood sport these days, right?
	Red pills.
	Like if you can predict the stock market, you can make money.
	I hear what you're saying.
	I mean, I hear what you're saying.
	I've never been ferociously interested in money, so I... You know, the idea of trading and buying and selling.
	I mean, I have... Anyway, it's not my particular thing to be a day trader.
	I'd rather do philosophy than buy and sell it that way.
	Yeah, it's a...
	I I
	That's pretty... I mean, I'm happy to hear the case.
	I'm happy to hear the case.
	Tell me the benefits.
	I mean, you can say, ah, yes, but you know, in two or three hundred years, you'll be recognized for having a...
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, right?
	But tell me the benefits. What are the benefits of being first?
	What are the benefits?
	First, over the ridge, you take all the bullets.
	And then, after peace is declared, we'll walk over.
	You once said, the mission is to speak the truth as best you can, as often as you can.
	Is that still your mission? Absolutely, yeah, for sure.
	Yeah, as often as you can, as is feasible.
	There aren't many benefits, which is why most people are stupid.
	Your conscience is clear when you're the first?
	No, it's not.
	Why would my conscience be bad?
	I'm not doing any evil. If I decide to not talk about something because it's just not worth it, why would my conscience be bad, right?
	Why would my conscience be bad?
	Bless you, Steph. You do the Lord's work.
	Thank you. The answer is selfish.
	It has benefited me. Oh, absolutely.
	It's benefited you, but you probably don't have a wiki page, right?
	So, yes, it benefits you.
	I get that. I understand that.
	But I'm asking you to sell it to me.
	I understand why one would hold off on being first.
	I mean, it used to be pretty exciting.
	And the reason I liked being first was because it showed the power of philosophy.
	Like, here is how you can understand the power of philosophy.
	how can I get things repetitively pretty accurate, right?
	You get to help millions of people.
	Thank you.
	Well, not if you're first too much, because if you're first too much, you get to help fewer people because you're gone from the public square, right?
	So, you get to help millions of people, but, you know, you could make the case that if I've been less thirsty, then I would get to help more people over time because I could wait for other people.
	To go through the process of breaking the ice and taking all the arrows, and then I could step through, you know, in every action movie, there's the guy and the sidekick, right?
	And the guy is the hero.
	He's the first guy through the door, and the sidekick is the second guy through the door.
	So, get to help millions of people, arguably, and I think it's a really good argument to make, that if you wait...
	You get to help more people.
	Because other people take all those crazy bullets, right?
	You get to change society to benefit your descendants' gene sets.
	I'd like to see the evidence of that.
	I'd like to see the evidence of that.
	that I don't see it, right?
	Let's see here...
	Here's the cell, if you're not first, you're last.
	That's not a cell. I mean, what is that?
	That's a Ricky Bobby?
	Is that a comedian or a comedian's character?
	If you're not first, you're last.
	That's not even remotely true.
	That's like saying if you're not the richest person in the world, you must automatically be the poorest person in the world.
	You don't know that anyone else will go first.
	Well, maybe they're right.
	Maybe they're right.
	Maybe they're right. Maybe they are wise.
	Maybe they are accurate. Maybe they are smarter in that consequential way or in the way of consequences.
	The first will be last is in the Bible.
	Yes, for sure. That's how the Bible, that's how Christianity deals with the problem of envy, which is exploited by leftists all the time.
	The problem of envy is dealt with by saying to people that material success is not the measure of the rewards of the afterlife.
	In fact, quite often it's the dismeasure.
	Being the first to reason isn't as fruitful as being the first to proof.
	With proof you can cower behind the evidence, while with reason there are still things to prove.
	I think that's a good point.
	That's a good point. But if you know that the reasoning is flawed or contradictory, you don't need the evidence.
	Right? So if you have a scientific experiment that says matter must attract and repulse each other at the same time, you don't need to measure anything because the illogic is so clear.
	And so if logical analysis brings you to accurate conclusions prior to proof because the logical contradictions embedded in a particular proposition means that proof is unnecessary because things can't be contradictory...
	You can't have a building that requires for it standing up that two and two make four and five at the same time.
	You just don't need to review that.
	You don't need the evidence because the logical contradictions belie the need for any evidence.
	I mean who was first to talk about, what is it, 12-13 years ago,
	went through a lot of data and details and moral arguments about the evils of spanking?
	Now it's being talked about.
	Yeah, a priori, for sure.
	For sure. You don't need the argument from evidence if you have the argument from reason.
	If you have a requirement, as scientific theories do, for logical consistency in the proposition, then you don't...
	If you don't have logical consistency in the proposition, you don't need to measure anything.
	I would spank if it wasn't for you, Steph.
	I appreciate that.
	Who was the first to say that after 2016 the media would not let people speak their minds
	because people speaking their minds had actually changed what the media wanted?
	I don't know.
	Yeah, fuck being first.
	Honestly, I've had my fill.
	I have drunk deep from that cup.
	I have drunk tea from that cup.
	I don't have any regrets about it, but the idea of wanting to be first, of needing to be first, which drove me a lot.
	I mean, partly I just like being right like everybody does, but as I said, it also does show people the value of philosophy if you can be consistently correct in what you formulate.
	I used Steph's argument to get a Christian on LinkedIn to quit spanking his son and now we're friends and he's very thankful for my help.
	All cred to Steph. Well, not all cred to me.
	Honestly, please, my friend.
	Massive cred to you and massive cred to the person, the Christian.
	Because, I mean, as I said before, I might write a recipe, but you other guys have to get the ingredients and cook it.
	I have had my fill of being first.
	I no longer consider it a...
	A prize to be sought.
	And it would be one thing, it would be one thing if it was like, yes, we're talking about this controversial, challenging subject, but, you know, let's pour one out for Steph who went there first.
	It doesn't exist.
	It doesn't exist. So...
	Of course, you could arguably say as well that going first actually is harmful to the position because you get so attacked that people are like, oh my gosh, right?
	Stay away from that. You are celebrated and will be.
	I appreciate that. It's not like I want to be celebrated.
	It's not that. I mean, you know, a little acknowledgement is generally a nice thing, but I don't really see it.
	Somebody says, I'm incredibly grateful to have listened to you, Steph.
	Your lessons have improved my life significantly.
	It's been a rocky road for you, but you have my deepest thanks.
	Well, thank you. I appreciate that.
	I really do appreciate that.
	And are you still planning on sharing your thoughts with us that you would consider first?
	I don't understand that.
	Sorry, I just gave a whole bunch of examples.
	You'll be vindicated!
	I ain't holding my breath for that, honestly.
	I mean, maybe, again, my business plan is 500 years, minimum, right?
	that I hope to hit peak relevance in a couple of centuries.
	Let's see here.
	On a microcosm it's punishing enough to be second by trying to relay philosophy
	I understand that bitterness.
	Right. Right.
	Right. Be like Scott Adams.
	Just pretend to be first.
	I think Scott's analysis is pretty good.
	He got turned by a pretty face and a nice figure, I think, into getting jabbed so he could go on his honeymoon to a woman who ended up leaving him anyway.
	And I think he's got some health issues now.
	I know he has some health issues now.
	I don't know whether they're jab-related or not.
	Steph, do you think boycotts change corporate interests as a whole?
	Boycotts are a response to pressure being put on corporate interests to fulfill particular ESG scores, right?
	It's just a blowback against the pressure being put on behind the scenes on corporations to pursue particular social engineering goals.
	Does your hesitancy to be first going forward reduce your value to those who follow you?
	Does your hesitancy to be first going forward reduce your value to those who follow you?
	That would be to, one, dimensionalize my value.
	You've got to be careful with this kind of stuff in your thinking.
	Not to do with me, but as a whole, right?
	You have to be careful, right?
	We have to be careful to not take a complex thing and try and boil it down to one thing, right?
	So, I'll just tell you what I mean by this, right?
	This is a good life lesson as a whole, right?
	Simmer in complexity. Simmer in complexity.
	That's where wisdom is.
	So he says, does your hesitancy to, quote, be first going forward reduce your value to those who follow you?
	In my view, that is a passive-aggressive way to try and get me to recommit to going first because obviously I want to have value to those who follow me, so I'll go back to being first, right?
	And so it's not hesitancy.
	I've made a logical, rational case.
	It's not just hesitancy, right?
	I mean, I've made a case as to why it's less valuable now than it used to be in the past.
	So it's not just hesitancy.
	That's kind of dismissing.
	Like, you know, when I have a 20-minute rant on why I'm not doing something and say, well, you're just hesitant.
	It's like, no, no, no, you have a lot of fucking reasons here.
	So it's not just hesitancy.
	Reduce your value to those who follow you.
	Here's the thing. Hit me with...
	And be honest, obviously. I don't have to ask you guys.
	I'm a very honest crew. Hit me with the why...
	If you follow me because I'm first in things.
	Hit me with a Y if you follow me because I'm first in things.
	No, no, no, no.
	See, almost by definition, right?
	Since I've been out of politics and haven't done this kind of stuff, I'm less first-y about these things than I used to be.
	So the people who are all here on this live stream are here because they find value in me for something other than being first.
	And you, yourself, since I haven't done the thirsty thing for a while, you are also here on this live stream because you find value in me other than me being first.
	Right? So...
	My hesitancy to be first, and again, I know that it's typing, but it's a little insulting to just say, well, he's just hesitant.
	Like, no, there's a lot of reasons, right?
	Reduce your value to those who follow you.
	Well, it will reduce my value to those who follow me for the being firstness.
	Right? Right? But it's like if a country singer decides to do a rock album, right?
	He does some Garth Brooks thing, right?
	Or I guess Taylor Swift did the same thing.
	She went from country to pop, right?
	So it's like if you say to Garth Brooks, who wants to do a rock album, and if you say to him, will that reduce the value of your album to your country and Western followers?
	Well, it's like, well, I would assume somewhat.
	Yes, of course, right?
	But that's only a small part of the equation, right?
	I mean, there are a lot of people who only got into Taylor Swift in her post- Country phase and Katy Perry started off as a specifically Christian fundamentalist singer and it's when she went pop and actually kind of anti-Christian in a way I think that she got to a wider audience.
	So if you go to someone like Katy Perry and you say well if you decide to go mainstream semi-demonic pop isn't that going to reduce your value to the people who like your fundamentalist Christian music and it's like well yes But, but, you get a whole new audience, right?
	So the fact that I haven't done politics means that I have a whole, in part, a new audience, right?
	The people who are looking more for, you know, depth, wisdom, self-knowledge, and an analysis of some cultural stuff and some artistic stuff and so on, right?
	So, does it reduce your value to those who follow you?
	Yeah, but so what? So what?
	I mean, you're like the business consultant where we say, you know, the cost of our source materials means that we have to raise the price of what we're charging, you know?
	And you're like, well, isn't that going to alienate some people who want it to be cheaper?
	It's like, yes, obviously.
	Like, I mean, that's not adding any value to the conversation.
	It's not adding any.
	So, for people who are really interested in you being first, if you decide not to be first, is that going to reduce your value to them?
	Yes. And? I get that.
	I can't remember.
	We used to call them the obvious queens, right?
	The people who would come in and try and tell you stuff in the business world.
	Like, you know, the important thing is to really maximize your profits, reduce your expenses, and be as efficient as humanly possible.
	It's like, yes.
	And my genius advice to budding musicians is try to play your instruments well and write songs that people really want to listen to.
	Yes. So you might want to up your game a little here.
	Somebody says, hey, I'm in the UK. Nice to get to see you stream live.
	How are you, Steph? I'm pretty good.
	Thanks. I'm pretty good. I'm pretty good.
	Your firstness and all your great perspectives are so great, but I get a similar feeling.
	I've talked to so many people about you, paid for their subscription, set up phone calls even that you did.
	I asked them a few months later and they haven't touched any of your content since.
	And for no reason really, just I haven't gotten around to it yet.
	Drives me mad. I don't have that view because of course everyone in my life is philosophical to one degree or another.
	I don't have that view. But yeah, people who are trying to get people interested in something deeper and they just keep floating around like those helium balloons up at the top of the ceiling before the stucco pops them.
	Steph, has there been any benefits at all for being first that you can think of?
	What? Why aren't people asking such ridiculous questions?
	I'm sorry, I don't mean to be mean.
	I just... Have there been any benefits at all for being first that you can think of?
	No, absolutely not.
	I put my entire life and reputation and everything completely and totally at risk for no benefits whatsoever.
	I'm completely random.
	I mean, sorry, I don't really understand this.
	It's like you're trying to program me or something.
	Like, why would you ask a question that's that low-brain?
	Like, that that's midway.
	Of course there are benefits from being first, otherwise I wouldn't have done it.
	Of course there are benefits from being first.
	Oh my gosh.
	Oh dear, oh dear.
	Have you talked to your wife or daughter?
	What they think of you being first.
	Oh yeah, but that's sort of fairly private family converse.
	So are you just going to keep everything to yourself now?
	Dude, why is everyone trolling me tonight with these completely ridiculous questions?
	Not everyone. Why are there a bunch of people?
	Excuse me. My gosh, that's really something.
	So I'm telling you something new, and you're like, so you're just not going to communicate anything to us anymore?
	It's like I'm literally telling you something new that you haven't heard before, and you're asking me if I'm going to keep everything to myself now.
	I'm literally telling you something new, and you're saying, so you're just never going to tell us anything new now?
	I don't know, man. Oh, dear.
	Moral courage gets removed from the gene pool pretty quick.
	There is that. There is that aspect of things, for sure.
	Alright. Let's see here.
	You're absolutely multidimensional, but your prophecies are part of what you may reveal.
	Not sure what that means.
	Early adopter, yes.
	Pioneer, not necessary.
	Although you tend to be the first because no one else will tell the truth.
	No, but they do. They just do it five years later or eight years later and with no credit.
	And again, it's not like I want some big credit or anything like that.
	It wouldn't be the end of the world for me to see people talking about stuff that used to be hugely controversial and say, yeah, well, you know, had to step up for bringing this stuff up.
	First, he paid a heavy price, blah, blah, blah.
	All right. How do you do philosophy while avoiding firstiness?
	That's a good question.
	How do you do philosophy while avoiding firstiness?
	Well, I can see that the firstiness has a lot to do with, you know, politics and current events, right?
	And so, because I don't really do politics or current events that much anymore, that's my major strategy for avoiding firstiness.
	Steph, I think you stepping back from the fire has been good for your audience.
	Leading people to be first with reason and evidence in politics has become a suicide mission.
	Well, politics did significantly darken after about 2018, and particularly 2020 or so.
	Yeah, politics really did darken.
	And it went beyond, oh my gosh, there are trolls and mean things written about you.
	It got much darker.
	And thank you again for your tips if you find this stuff helpful or valuable.
	I always appreciate being tipped. Actually, somebody told me if you're on iOS, you can actually tip from there too.
	And of course, if you only have coins, I really do appreciate it.
	I wanted to mention that too.
	I really appreciate the people who are giving me coins on freedomand.locals.com.
	That's also very helpful and I really, really appreciate it.
	I think you've continued to be first but are more eternal matters lately.
	I describe you to others as a person who says things that have never been said before.
	That, it's a funny thing, I always try to give new analogies, new perspectives, new arguments.
	I mean, I just published for the subscribers a two hours and 45 minute conversation I had with a married couple expecting their first child where they had significant problems with rage in the relationship.
	Whole new approach to anger and to rage and how to manage it.
	A whole new approach. I'm really, really trying not to be...
	You know, it used to drive me nuts.
	I used to listen to this guy many years ago.
	He's long dead now.
	Harry Brown. Brown with an E. And he would have the same stories, the same metaphors, the same analogies.
	I can't do it. I just can't do it.
	I can't do it. All right.
	Katy Perry is pretty dark.
	If you look at her song Dark Horse, it's full of satanic imagery.
	Well, there's the other thing too, you know, like I used to regret sometimes when I was younger, my lack of musical, relatively easy musical ability.
	And you see the price that you have to pay to be in the music industry these days.
	It's, I mean, literally almost feels like it steals your soul.
	Pop music singing means you lost your poker music fans.
	Yeah, for sure. For sure.
	Steph is tremendously courageous, an inspiration for others to do the same.
	Go forth and publish something!
	Well, I appreciate that, but the world has changed since my earlier days of courage to the point where courage...
	Like, they're always trying to move that Aristotelian mean, right?
	So a deficiency of courage is cowardice, and excess of courage is foolhardiness, which is also dangerous, right?
	A lack of courage tends to be dangerous to others, and excess of courage tends to be dangerous to yourself.
	And of course, when you're married and you have kids, other people depend on you, dangerous to them as well.
	So, if you look at my former courage, I appreciate the kindness, but I wouldn't do that kind of stuff now if I were you.
	Somebody says, I follow you because how you teach problem solving and moral philosophy has helped me become a clearer thinker and a more moral person.
	That is wonderful.
	Thank you. Thank you so much.
	I appreciate that. When I tried to talk to a friend about philosophy, he gave me monosyllabic responses.
	We're no longer friends. He's doing movie reviews from here on out.
	No more philosophy. All right.
	So, Steph, what do you think about possible government disclosure of extraterrestrials, UFO existence?
	Is it going to have massive implications on religion, education, and philosophy?
	Well, here's the thing, man.
	Nothing. For the most part.
	Oh. I don't know.
	It's just too dark. I need to gauge the audience here.
	I need to be sensitive to what you're thinking about.
	Hit me with a B if you don't mind a black pill.
	Hit me with a B if you don't mind a black pill.
	Alright. We got a bunch of BBs going here.
	Alright. I warned you ahead of time.
	I want to be sensitive. I want to be sensitive.
	Yeah, I want to be sensitive.
	Okay, question. What effect will UFOs, if confirmed, have on religion, education, and philosophy?
	People don't have thoughts.
	They have assigned prejudicial reactions.
	So here's the thing.
	People don't have thoughts about Joseph McCarthy.
	They have programmed reactions to call anything that harms the interests of the left, McCarthyist witch hunt, right?
	Literally, The Crucible by Arthur Miller was written to discredit Joseph McCarthy.
	So, people don't have opinions.
	They don't have thoughts.
	They have pre-programmed Semi-hysterical responses.
	So, I mean, the wildest thing happens in society, right?
	Like, wasn't it not that long ago they found that the antidepressants, for the most part, aren't treating anything biochemical?
	And people were just like, yeah, alright.
	And why? Why do they do that?
	Why, when these incredible truth bombs drop into society, do people just move on like it ain't no thing?
	Why? Why? This should revolutionize everything.
	Why do they drop things that are truly astounding and horrifying and just move on?
	Why? They are powerless.
	Nope.
	No.
	No one told them to care about it.
	Yeah, that's right. That's right.
	So there could be...
	I mean, how many times has this happened to you when you read something that comes out that's just jaw-dropping and you think, my God, this is going to change everything.
	And it just blows past.
	It just doesn't exist. It's just like it never was.
	Does this happen a lot? It happens a lot, right?
	So many times you think, oh my god, what was the first time for you guys?
	What was the first time where you're like, oh my god, this revelation is going to change everything?
	Yeah, Iraq War II, WMDs, the fact that they spent 17 years and trillions and trillions of dollars to replace the Taliban with the Taliban, but a much better armed Taliban now.
	Not controversial, these are just facts, right?
	Yeah, Podesta emails, origins of war and child abuse, bomb of the brain, NSA spying, the revelations, WMDs, the stuff that came from Snowden, the stuff that came out of Julian Assange, right? And you think, my God, this is so huge.
	This is going to be a turning point.
	This is going to be a big change, right?
	Yeah, Epstein? Epstein?
	The fact that the British media was covering up repeated rape of children since the 1970s.
	The Biden laptop, yeah.
	Jeffrey Epstein, all of that stuff, right?
	Yeah. And you think, my God.
	I mean, I remember, I can't remember, many, many years ago.
	I think it was before I even did this show.
	I think the state, and I'm sorry if I get the details hazy.
	It's been a long time. But the State Department was hacked, and the sort of personnel files were leaked to some hostile foreign actor, or they got a hold of them.
	And this is all the stuff like, tell us all of your dirtiest, darkest secrets so that we know you can't be blackmailed, or if you can, or whatever, right?
	Yeah. And I was like, okay, well, so that whole department now has become kind of pointless because compromising material has fallen into the hands of the enemy, blah, blah, blah.
	So you just sit there and you go, oh my God, like, society can't continue with this new revelation.
	It can't continue in the same shape.
	It can't do it. You know, it's like somebody running with the balls.
	They get gored up the ass and they just keep walking, just keep running.
	Hey, I'm fine. Yeah.
	All the people who've committed obvious crimes, documented crimes, just getting away with it, right?
	So the UFO thing, the only reason that people will think it's important is if they're repetitively told that it is important.
	If we find proof of UFOs tomorrow and the media just moves on, what will people do?
	What will people do? What will they do?
	Just move on along. Yeah, just move on.
	Just move on. How many prominent, powerful people were compromised by Epstein?
	And the evidence was all there, right?
	No way would people move on from proof of aliens.
	Guarantee you they would. Guarantee you they would.
	They are passive receivers of electrical stimuli from the media and most people have no more analytical judgment than your average blender.
	If you take away the power from a blender, you unplug it, it won't blend.
	And if you take away the media simulation, people just go flaccid, they go limp, they just don't have any animating energy.
	I know, because everyone has that thing where they say, oh my gosh, if this came along, if this, that would change everything.
	If this came along, man, that would change everything.
	And everyone has this. And I don't mean to be, again, Mr.
	Wissendold, you know, cynic or anything like that, but I've gone through a whole bunch of these.
	Well, this is going to change everything.
	My gosh. But when you've been through about a million of these things, oh my god.
	I mean, I remember the first one.
	I don't know if you guys remember.
	I've talked about this many years ago.
	Do you remember one of my first ones about this is going to change everything that turned out to be a nothing burger?
	I mean Ukraine's about bioweapons labs anyway.
	No, it was long before Brexit.
	Yeah, Brexit, everyone thought was going to change everything, right?
	Yeah, it was Lewinsky. It was Lewinsky.
	Since only one person remembers it, I suppose I can break precedent and talk about it again.
	So this long before I was in the public sphere, and I was with a salesman on a call to a major corporation.
	I did the software presentations, I answered technical questions and so on.
	And I was on... A software business trip presentation.
	And I was driving with a salesman and we were listening to the radio and all the revelations came out about Bill Clinton treating a White House intern like his own personal Geisha slash Kleenex guy.
	Taking blowjobs from her and inserting a cigar in her while I think the King of Jordan was waiting in the next room.
	Just really degenerate, horrifying stuff.
	And I remember thinking, oh my God, this is going to change everything.
	Because my whole life I've been told that an imbalance of power is exploitation of women.
	This is why the boss can't date the secretary.
	And I thought, oh my God, there's no bigger imbalance of power than the literal most powerful man in the world and an unpaid intern.
	I remember thinking, damn!
	Damn! The feminists are going to go mental on this.
	The feminists are going to go mental on this.
	And what happened? The feminists, some of them said, oh, I'd give them a blowjob too if it meant keeping Roe v.
	Wade. Do anyone remember?
	What did the feminists do when Bill Clinton prayed on an unpaid intern?
	Oh, no, they didn't do nothing.
	They defended it and cheered it on.
	Right? Right? And of course, I had my suspicions about feminists when they attacked endlessly Ayn Rand and Margaret Thatcher.
	Ayn Rand wrote one of the most influential books in the history of the world, and she came from another country and another culture and another religion, or at least another cultural tradition, and she learned English and wrote one of the most amazing and powerful and influential books in the history of the world.
	You'd think that would be something feminists would celebrate, but they hate her, right?
	And Margaret Thatcher was the first female leader of a Western democracy and they hated her, right?
	So it had nothing to do with all of that, right?
	Bill Maher defended Bill Clinton.
	Yeah. Oh, he was sexy for playing the saxophone.
	The first black president tongue-in-cheek.
	Yeah, yeah, for sure. For sure.
	So that was one time where I was like, yeah, Clarence Thomas, yeah, they hate him too, for sure.
	High-tech lynching is what he referred it to, and in my mind he wasn't wrong.
	So, that's when you're like, okay, there's nothing to do with anything.
	Or if you look at the sort of fat acceptance movement, you'd think that would be highly opposed by environmentalists, right?
	Because people who are significantly overweight for the most part are eating usually twice the calories they actually need.
	And each calorie takes a certain amount of energy to produce and despoils nature's precious and scarce resources.
	So the environmentalists should be absolutely anti-obesity, right?
	Yeah, that's crazy stuff.
	So, why did...
	And the Supreme Court was so angry at Bill Clinton that they refused to show up for his inauguration or something like that and they turned their backs on him because he perjured himself and so on, right?
	So, the Lewinsky story wouldn't have come out if it weren't from the Drudge Report.
	He got co-opted around 2016.
	Yeah, who knows what happened behind the scenes there, right?
	So, and again, this is like, gosh, when was Lewinsky?
	Decades and decades ago.
	And so back then, you're like, wow, you know, this is a huge deal, right?
	Huge deal. 96, was it 96?
	Yeah, okay. So that's a long time ago, right?
	That's a long time ago.
	Was that 27 years? Something like that.
	So when you've been through a whole bunch of these things where it's like, oh my God, this is going to change everything.
	This is going to change everything.
	But then what happens is if the media doesn't focus on it, then the people will forget about it.
	They're just looking at things going past.
	They don't have any continuity of memory or they have no principles or anything like that, right?
	Yeah, moment to moment. Just goldfish, right?
	Oh, I'm hungry. Oh, I'm going to poop.
	Oh, I want to make some eggs.
	And so if there was some UFO thing, the only way that UFOs would be a big deal is if the media
	kept harping on them.
	They don't have continuity of thought.
	They only have receptivity to stimuli.
	They only have receptivity to stimuli.
	Their God is their stomach.
	Well, see, I mean, I think everybody knows this, right?
	People don't evaluate...
	Like, it takes a strong person.
	It's one of the reasons I work out.
	It's working out, like, you know, my little muscles here, right?
	Working out keeps me objective.
	It keeps me objective.
	Because when you're physically...
	Well, it keeps me high T. It keeps me physically strong.
	When you're physically weak...
	You don't judge whether things are true or false.
	That is a hallmark of strength.
	Objectivity is a hallmark of strength.
	Like I've often said to people, if you don't exercise, you have no idea what your philosophical opinions are because you're conditioned by weakness.
	Conditioned by weakness, which is why physical training and objective thought go hand in hand.
	So, if you are physically weak, or you're low T, or you're bottom of the pecking order or whatever, you can't judge whether things are true or false.
	And if anybody doubts this, just remember what it was like in junior high school, right?
	Grade 6, grade 7, grade 8, grade 9, whatever, right?
	From elementary school to junior high.
	When you disagreed with the teacher, how free were you to tell the truth?
	You weren't. You're not free to tell the truth because then the teacher will fail you, you'll be held back a grade, you'll lose a year of your life, whatever, right?
	You don't have any... You can't judge what is true when you're a child for the most part.
	Certainly in school, you can't judge what is true.
	You can only judge what is approved.
	You don't judge something according to any standard of truth.
	You only judge things according to that which keeps you safe.
	Which is why COVID was great for a lot of bad people, right?
	The lockdowns, closing the gyms and all of that.
	People stayed home, they got weaker, they got softer, they got, right?
	So they became, when you get physically weaker, you live in a state of fear and then you can't judge things according to any objective standard.
	You're bought and paid for in a sense by your own physical weakness.
	You can't judge things by facts.
	You can only judge things by safety or danger.
	You don't say, is this true?
	You say, will I get in trouble for saying this?
	Oh, okay. And if you understand the world, right?
	If you understand the world, you know how this stuff operates.
	Because you and I, we look at things, you know, like the fine people hoax, right?
	It's literally on video where he's saying, oh no, the white nationalists or whatever, they should be condemned utterly or whatever, right?
	It's right there. And you sit there and say, well, how is it possible for people to say things when the evidence is right there?
	And that's a wildly different mindset.
	It's a completely foreign mindset to most of us here.
	We say, how can you say things that are demonstrably false?
	And it's like, because you and I, as relatively staunch and strong souls, we're looking at things and we're saying, okay, is that true or is that false?
	Is that right or is that wrong?
	Is that accurate or is that inaccurate?
	Is there evidence for or against it?
	And we evaluate it according to a standard that is objective.
	Ah, but why do people repeat, for instance, the fine people hoax?
	Because if they don't repeat it, people will be upset with them.
	And they can't put things through a filter of truth.
	They can only put things through a filter of approval or disapproval, of danger or safety.
	They remain in a fairly childlike state of mind, which is a bit of an insult to children, but I think you get the idea, right?
	Why do people... Like I remember when I was a kid reading, I was, I don't know, maybe I was 13 or so when I read A Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich and other writings about communism and so on.
	I remember thinking, and so Trinitan said, you know, it's going to happen in the West.
	And I was like, ah, come on, it can't happen.
	It can't happen. I mean, come on.
	I mean, this is ridiculous, right?
	It'd be like trying to bring slavery back or Nazism or something horrendous, right?
	No, it's not going to happen.
	And that was my naivety, because I was like, well, no, it logically doesn't make any sense, can't solve the price problem, power corrupts people, you can't give government the control over an entire country and its economy, and 100 million dead, and blah, blah, blah, blah, and after all the evidence came out, particularly post-Stalin, when Khrushchev came along, and they had this, the truth came out about what was going on under the gulags and so on, you say, well, it can't happen, right?
	Because it's so completely illogical and immoral and absolutely vile and violently destructive
	from a historical standpoint.
	So obviously it can't be.
	And that's because, like most younger people, I mistook the world for myself.
	I say, well, this is obviously illogical and destructive and violent and massively murderous, 100 million dead, and I think it's much more, but let's just go with 100 million.
	It can't happen again.
	It can't happen again. And now I'm like, yeah, of course it's going to happen again.
	Because... I mean, think of that song.
	What's that woman? I used to ride with a vending machine repairman.
	He said he's been down this road more than twice.
	He was high on intellectualism.
	I've never been there, but the brochures seem nice.
	Oh, there's another song she's got.
	My friend the communist holds meetings in his RV. My friend the communist.
	Sheryl Crow, yeah, that's right. Sheryl Crow, right?
	My friend the communist. Now, you've got a very pretty woman.
	She's very pretty when she was younger.
	Gorgeous, right? Very pretty woman, very talented.
	And a mediocre singer, but whatever, right?
	And... She's got My Friend the Communist, and she's, you know, that's perfectly acceptable.
	I can't afford the gas, so I'm stuck here watching TV. I'm gonna soak up the sun.
	Gotta tell everyone to lighten up, right?
	And so she's got My Friend the Communist, right?
	Is she a communist?
	No, really? No. Really? No.
	So communism has been reframed as kind of cool and you can't speak out against it.
	The only people who speak out against communism are Nazis.
	You don't care about people.
	And again, most people aren't looking at the facts.
	They're looking, okay, am I going to get in trouble if I say this or am I going to be approved of if I say this?
	And the battle really...
	The battle between the truth pursuers and the danger avoiders is Legion.
	The truth pursuers and the reason avoiders.
	It's wild punk rockers used to be anarchists, now they're commies.
	Well, they used to be anarchists when they weren't in control of the media.
	Now they're in control of the media, right?
	And they were never anarchists like anarcho-capitalists.
	They were anarchists like...
	No rules, man. No rules.
	Such a sad song about drinking your life away.
	Oh, her song's ridiculously depressing.
	All I want to do is have some fun.
	That song is just unbelievably depressing about a bunch of losers in a bar.
	It's horrendously...
	Her songs are just horrible and nihilistic.
	I mean, musically, if it makes you happy...
	I mean, musically, it's fine. It's peppy and all of that.
	And Every Day is a Winding Road is a fun song.
	But the content of the lyrics are just monstrous.
	There's no accident she did a...
	She did a song with Johnny Cash or she did a cover, Redemption Day, of a song by Johnny Cash.
	It's just, yeah, just monstrous.
	All right. So, yeah, if people are told that space aliens are important, then they'll believe that space aliens are important.
	And if they're told something and then you just move on, then they'll just move on.
	They literally won't remember it.
	The blur of the now that people live in is truly astonishing.
	There's no history, no present, no past, no trends.
	They're just anywhere you go.
	You can tell them one thing and then tell them the opposite thing the next day.
	They're like, yep, totally. I was messing around with an AI chatbot and I said, do you believe in free will?
	And the AI chatbot said, well, I do believe in free will, but I'm also a determinist.
	And I said, well, that's contradictory.
	He said, yes, yes, it is. And then I said, can you define morality?
	He said, well, morality is a system of ethics, blah, blah, blah.
	I said, can you define ethics?
	Ethics is a system of morality, blah, blah, blah.
	And I said, well, hang on. You defined ethics as morality, and the morality is ethics.
	That seems very circular. He said, yes, it is circular.
	It's like that Walt Whitman poem.
	You say, I contradict myself.
	Very well, I contradict myself.
	Like, no issue, no problem, right?
	Normally people feel very safe saying nasty things about capitalism and also holding communism in high esteem.
	This is a water cooler position.
	Yeah, I mean, I saw a preview for, I guess he's become now the Nazi with the melted face cryptkeeper Harrison Ford at what, age of 80?
	He's doing some, it's really the worst.
	The Dial of Destiny.
	It's like a really, really terrible name.
	The Dial of Destiny.
	Prr! Or like dial is like a form of, it's a kind of soap, isn't it?
	The soap of destiny.
	And, you know, well, you stole it.
	Then I stole it. Then I stole it.
	Yeah, it's called capitalism.
	Like capitalism, like this is how you get programmed.
	Literally, these people are buying a product.
	They expect you to voluntarily, they're making a product.
	They want you to voluntarily buy and then saying capitalism is stealing.
	And this will go out to 100 million people, and they will say, ah, yes, well, of course, capitalism is stealing, right?
	And people say, ah, yes, but the wars of imperialism were capitalism.
	Ah, okay, so it's capitalism when you steal from people and press-gang them into the Navy to sail around and get killed so that you can make money with a state monopoly-protected cartel.
	Okay, that's capitalism.
	Yeah, because capitalism is just anything that happens that's bad, right?
	Yeah, so they don't sit there and say, I wonder what's right or wrong about capitalism or communism.
	They don't ask any of these things.
	They have no idea what they are at all.
	What they do know is they have an instinct for danger, and a lot of changing society, usually for the worst, is programming people with a sense of danger about particular topics.
	These topics will have you viewed negatively, whereas saying this will have you viewed negatively, Whereas saying this will have you viewed positively.
	And that's it. That's all you need to do.
	That's, you know, you just keep repeating, repeating.
	I mean, everybody saw on just about every series, the bad guys were always Russia, always Russia, right?
	I mean, just Russia bad, Russia bad, Russia bad, right?
	So, if you say anything even mildly positive of Russia, you're a bad person.
	So, again, people don't have any standard to judge things by other than, will people not like me if I say this?
	Okay, I won't say it. Will people like me if I say this?
	Okay, I'll say this. People responding to incentives by way of social pressure.
	Well, yeah, I mean, you're just training people like you would train a puppy with positive and negative reinforcement.
	I mean, that's all that's going on.
	It's all that's going on. Positive and negative reinforcement.
	There's no thought involved at all.
	Now, of course, if there is actually space aliens, they will probably be our salvation.
	Would you like to know why?
	Would you like to know why that space aliens will almost certainly be our salvation?
	You would? Okay. How's the space program going under government control?
	Just out of curiosity, how's the space program going under government control?
	Got to the moon in less than 10 years, right?
	How's it going? You getting your space tickets anytime soon?
	They're putting bases on the moon, they're getting to Mars.
	How is... How is the space program doing under the government?
	Well, it's terrible, of course, right?
	So, the only way that you're going to get interstellar travel, I don't think there's any other planets on our solar system, I mean, there's no other planets on our solar system that have any capacity for intelligent life.
	So, the only way that space aliens are getting here is if they're in a narco-capitalist society.
	Yeah, they have to be UPB, they have to be NAP, they have to be pure free market, pure private property, stateless society, absolutely.
	So, they'd be here to rescue us.
	You know that also, and I for one would welcome our new alien overlords.
	I would be very excited to see space aliens.
	Take us with you, please.
	Get us off this rock.
	Is there any intelligent life down here?
	Yes, in this chat! Absolutely.
	We used to be so optimistic in accounts of the future, then the government got involved.
	Well, no, but the government would get involved in making you optimistic about accounts of the future so you'd enjoy it when the government took more of your money in the supposed mission of delivering that wonderful magical future.
	Never a straight answer.
	It's funny. All right.
	So, sorry. Somebody had a question.
	Somebody had a question that I wanted to get to before closing off for the evening.
	And thank you guys so much for dropping by tonight.
	A real pleasure. To chat with Yao.
	During my engineering degree, my favorite and best course was How to Win an Argument.
	It was a philosophy course about logic and analyzing arguments with syllogisms.
	I thought, man, there's a way to clearly break down sentences, statements, and arguments.
	Why isn't everyone all over this stuff?
	Nobody around me in five years of study found this fascinating like I did.
	They were all about the moment.
	Well, sure, because they can just use passive aggression, manipulating it, they can just side with whoever's got the most emotional pressure on people, and that's how they, quote, win their arguments.
	They don't need to worry about any of that.
	I have this very cynical line in my novel, The Future, when a very powerful politician says, well, you're only reasoning because you don't have any power.
	The whole purpose of power is you don't have to debate anyone.
	You don't have to reason. Reason is like showing your belly.
	Reason is because you're weak.
	You have to beg for people to listen to your reason because you can't impose your will through power.
	I'm not saying he's entirely wrong.
	All right, let me just get you to...
	You've got to listen to that book.
	Especially the audiobook.
	It's just... I think it's incredible.
	I think it's just incredible.
	All right. Um...
	Yeah, reason is begging for empathy from people who...
	Right. Okay, I asked this question earlier.
	This is the one. You mentioned that if a woman withholds sex, it's okay for a man to withhold resources.
	But when the two live together and if the man does not pay the bills, he is only hurting himself by getting the lights turned off or getting evicted.
	What are your thoughts of a man in that situation simply seeking sex outside of the relationship?
	No, I don't agree with that at all.
	So, sex is an essential aspect of a relationship, and of course, you know, men have 17 times the testosterone that women do, so our sexual natures tend to be a little bit more active, so to speak.
	You simply don't let it...
	Like, I was talking to this couple yesterday.
	Boy, they've been together for 22 years, and they had a dry spell.
	They had a dry spell. They had a dry spell.
	Give me your best guesstimate as to how long their dry spell lasted over the course of their 22-year relationship.
	How long do you think their dry spell was going on for?
	What do you think? What have we got here?
	2 years, 10 years, 5 years, 5 years, 21, 5 years, 18, 3 months, 7 years.
	Yeah, 20. It was 10 years.
	It was 10 years. And do you know what broke their dry spell?
	Ten years, no sex.
	Do you know what broke their dry spell?
	Nope. No, their dry spell within the relationship.
	Therapy? Nope. This show.
	No, I didn't talk to them until after this.
	No, this show. This show broke their dry spell.
	I slapped them together like a hand clap making the beast with two backs.
	The reason why this show ended their dry spell, because I asked them, was because they both listened to my passion for parenthood, decided they wanted to become parents, realized that they had to deal with this issue.
	There's a lot of people in sexless relationships.
	It's crazy common.
	One out of ten marriages is sexless.
	I don't understand it. It's completely incomprehensible to me.
	A man in that situation simply seeking sex outside of the relationship.
	Well, you deal with this stuff ahead of time, right?
	You talk about this stuff ahead of time.
	First of all, you recognize that a woman is going to have period discomfort.
	Of course, if she's pregnant and recovering from that, there's going to be times, right?
	this kind of stuff, right? And so you simply stay fit, you stay healthy, you
	stay in good communication, you stay attentive as a lover, you work
	with her sexual rhythms and all of that so that sex remains a very positive
	thing for her and that way you continue to keep the sex going.
	If you hit a dry spell, you talk about it and you try and figure your way through it and figure your way back together and you have that as a commitment in your relationship to begin with.
	If you marry or are living together with a woman and you haven't gone through the process of figuring out how you're going to resolve disputes, then you're like somebody who ordered a random box on Amazon complaining to me about the contents.
	It's like, I don't know what to say, man.
	You ordered a random box, so I don't know how you get to complain about the contents.
	Or like somebody who gambles and loses money and says, hey man, I lost my money.
	It's like, yeah, but you gambled. And if you don't say to a woman or a man when you're going to get together with them, okay, we're going to have disputes.
	How are we going to resolve for disputes?
	Reason and evidence is all it can be, right?
	Reason, honesty and evidence, right?
	All right.
	Any last tips? Any last tips for the hardest working philosopher in the biz?
	I have done three three-hour call-in shows.
	I did a live stream the night before last, a long live stream now.
	And I have got a couple of other things in the work.
	We're still working on the StephBot, but AI. Shirtless Steph for tips.
	I'd like to pretend I've got more pride than that, but I don't actually.
	Thank you for the tip. I appreciate that.
	Anybody else? Anybody else?
	Go on once, go on twice.
	Don't make me beg. I mean, I'll beg.
	I absolutely will. Please, give me some tips.
	But, yeah, if you find what it is.
	Oh, come on, you have this very clarifying stuff, isn't it?
	You can leave your shirt on.
	Okay, who was your favorite cover of that song?
	I'm somewhere between Tom Jones and Joe Cocker.
	Tom, do you like the Tom Jones one?
	He's kind of slimy to begin with, right?
	Would you be the first to welcome the aliens?
	I would like to.
	Thank you. I really do appreciate the tips.
	Thank you guys very much. And also, of course, if you are a supporter on this platform or other platforms as well, I really, really appreciate that.
	It actually lifts my spirits absurdly when I get a nice tip.
	I mean, I'm about to take up tap dancing for the next round of tips.
	When I get employed again, I will make it rain on the shirtless philosopher.
	Well, I appreciate that. And, of course, somebody says, I sent a tip, but the point was interviews with college kids because try capitalism, call it communism.
	Try communism, call it capitalism.
	Love the first, hate the second.
	Absolutely. Yes, for sure.
	You just get reverse things, right?
	Communism is love. Capitalism is exploitation.
	And, you know, of course, what you do is if you have an ideology you can't defend rationally, you simply surround it with a bunch of positive language, positive adjectives.
	And then, well, communism is love.
	You're not a hater, are you?
	I remember that. It was in some...
	I think I watched One Jersey Shore before I realized I had to scrub myself down from top to bottom with Dettel and a wire brush.
	But... I remember somebody had a criticism and the other guy was like, why you got to be such a hater?
	And I was like, this is the state of philosophy now.
	Of course, it's Josie Shore and all of that.
	Why you got to be such a hater?
	Great show. Need more black pills.
	Do you need more black pills?
	Hear, hear. Okay, hit me with that.
	Listen, man, if you want black pills, hit me with a why if you want more black pills.
	How black do you want them to be?
	Do you want them to be black as the sole armpit stain of Satan?
	I mean, black pills are entertaining.
	I'm not sure we're using the same words to mean the same thing.
	Pills of color. That's pretty funny.
	Yes, we've got people who want the black pills.
	Just need truth, to be honest.
	Well, yeah, yeah. Black pills are good to clear the deadwood.
	No black pills. Dark side of the moon.
	There's no dark side of the moon.
	Matter of fact, it's all dark.
	Do you know the vocal bits in that were just people they interviewed?
	They interviewed Paul McCartney for that album, but they didn't end up using it.
	They just interviewed people who worked in and around the studio.
	That was about it. I'm black-pilled to the max.
	Nothing surprises me anymore.
	Want pink pills. What a jagged little pill.
	That was a dark album, man.
	That was a dark, dark, crazy, crazy-ass album.
	Well, she was...
	Alanis Morissette was half-raped throughout her teenage years by people in the music industry.
	It was just appalling.
	Just appalling. That's the thing, too.
	Like, all the people talking about toxic masculinity, it's like, I'm sorry that you had shitty men in your life, but don't blame the good men because that's who you happen to be around.
	Yeah, they were very dark songs.
	Very, very dark songs.
	I want you to know.
	All right. What the hell is a hat pill?
	I don't know. Hit me with a Y. Have you ever read Catcher in the Rye?
	Hit me with a Y. Have you ever read Catcher in the Rye?
	That book is fucking evil and insane.
	It is just evil and insane.
	Is that just me? I mean, is that book not just...
	Would you do a book club on it?
	Because, Jesus, man, that book is just about as evil and insane as a thing can be in literature.
	I'm afraid that young author did not have a happy childhood.
	I mean, to me, this is about the effects of childhood sexual abuse.
	And the clues are, it's not even clues, they're all over the place in the book, childhood sexual abuse.
	One of his teachers comes on to him when he's 16 and he says,
	ah, that stuff's happened to me about a million times since I was a kid.
	Never had much interest in it.
	I mean, it's very well written and it's very vivid.
	And it literally is like getting into the brambled, tangled mind of a serial killer.
	I mean, it is just hideous in its epistemology.
	I mean, almost it's metaphysics.
	Everything is vomity and crummy and, oh yeah, it's just wild.
	It's just wild.
	I really connected with his inability to connect with others.
	Well, he can't connect with others because he just projects everything.
	You know, he says everybody's so contentious and negative, and all he is is contentious and negative.
	It was a depressing book, yeah.
	Well, it's a depressing book because the cause is never explained.
	Why is he so wretched?
	Why is he so wretched? Again, it's hinted all over the place.
	But... And of course, when he's talking about Jane Gallagher, she's got this boozy stepdad around.
	She's talking about Jane Gallagher.
	And his friend, and the first thing he says when she cries when her stepdad's around is, basically, did he sexually assault you as a kid?
	Boom! Immediately goes there.
	Immediately goes there. Yeah, this should never, ever be taught in public school.
	I mean, it's toxic for young minds.
	It's really, really toxic.
	Which, of course, is why it's assigned, right?
	Because it's just so vicious, and it's such a vicious and destructive book.
	All right. Well, thank you everyone for...
	Might as well have read Bukowski in school.
	Yeah. I don't hate people.
	I just seem to feel better when they're not around.
	And you wonder why more conservative schools back in the old days banned it.
	Oh, it's horribly offensive to Christians.
	I mean, not too shocking, right?
	But yeah, it's horribly offensive to Christians.
	Yeah. Horribly offensive to Christians.
	So... Alright, if you're listening to this later, freedomain.com slash donate.
	Thank you. Now, I'll do a whole, you know what, I'll tell you my whole next show will be black pills.
	If that's what you want, baby, I got them.
	I got them.
	So, a Sunday black pill sermon.
	Ooh, Sunday sermon, black pill.
	Ooh, I don't know. Do I want to do a black mass on a Sunday?
	I really don't. Go watch Nefarious if you haven't already.
	Please go watch Nefarious. It's really, really good.
	So if you're listening to this later, freedomain.com.
	Thank you so much, my friends, for a gloriously deep and vivid evening.
	It's just wonderful to chat with you guys.
	I don't even remember doing shows.
	I'm still coming up with dating advice show you asked for tips about.
	Yes. The teacher that made cash for a part of my high school course was later accused of statutory rape.
	Would not shock me at all.
	Everybody's like, oh my gosh, Catholic priests and child molestation.
	It's like, no, no, no. You want to go to where the real child molestation is?
	You go to government schools. It's hundreds of times worse.
	All right. Like per capita, not just in terms of actual numbers.
	Thanks everyone so much. Have yourselves a beautiful evening.

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