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Jan. 7, 2020 - Freedomain Radio - Stefan Molyneux
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GWYNETH PALTROW & THE GOOP LAB! DRUGS, DEMONIC POSSESSION AND PUBLIC O's!
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So what happens in a workshop?
Everyone gets off.
Oh my god.
Oh my god.
Okay, so hi everybody.
Stefan Molyneux from Free Domain.
I hope you're doing well, at least mentally.
I hope you're doing better than people who want to get somewhat lashed to a hospital gurney and have an orgasm with somebody standing...
Right next to them.
Boundaries, people. A couple of boundaries would not be the end of the world.
Hey, remember when an orgasm was something that, you know, bound you to a lifelong partner to make sure there was a stable pair-bond foundation for the raising of children, the transmission of culture?
It's like, nope! That's not happening anymore.
What's happening now is Gwyneth Paltrow and Gollum will be giving you an orgasm on a hospital gurney.
Let's look at that. Where are we as a society?
Okay, we go. So what happens in a workshop?
Everyone gets off.
What the fuck are you doing?
Yes, that is correct.
What is with this clinical, open-windowed, visible-from-space robo-orgasm for people and for women?
Oh, my gosh.
So this is, of course, Gwyneth Paltrow, who...
Kind of kept quiet about the Harvey Weinstein stuff, I think for about 20 years, maybe a little more, maybe a little less, since she was in Shakespeare on Love.
So, yeah, she was part of the cabal of silence that served up a lot of women to his squid-fingered lechery.
But this is her company, and there's Netflix that is having a...
A series on her show called Goop.
Goop named because she was told that all big internet companies have two O's in their name.
And, of course, the trailer starts off with a big O. Boom!
Yes, that's right.
That is the kind of middle-aged humor you can expect from this show.
All right. So she's got this company called Goop.
And it's a new age mystical...
Garbage, really. I mean, most of it's not scientifically proven, and it's alternative medicine.
And what that means is, you know, feel good pampering with no actual credible medical benefit, but you get to be paid attention to, and you get to be pampered.
In other words, you get to feel like royalty for buying, well, fridge magnets with harmonics that are supposed to help you be happy.
Because, you know, it used to be the case that women would get happy and feel fulfilled because they would, you know, they would have and raise children, transmit culture, be mothers, and morally train the next generation on how to be civilized.
They'd keep the Lord of the Flies situation at bay and they would have lovely careers and they would have neighborhood cohesion and they would keep the fabric of the neighborhood together.
Because, you know, one of the things that's happened since women have gone to the workforce, since all this multiculturalism has...
You know, Gene Hackman on a glass map of California fragmented our neighborhoods is parenting has become really expensive.
Like when I was a kid and we had kind of like a monoculture, although my best friend was an Indian boy from my boarding school, but we kind of had a monoculture and kids could just go out and play.
And so you didn't need to spend a lot of money or time on parenting after the kids got to be sort of six, seven, or eight years old.
Now, with all this fragmentation and women in the workforce, no cohesion, no trust in the communities...
Well, kids got to stay home, which can be kind of make them fat and lazy, or you got to drive them places.
Everything's got to be structured. You got to pay for everything.
It's got to be classes and so on.
So free ranch childhood, the end of it, has really raised the cost of having children and thus disincentivized a lot of people to try.
Okay, so let's go on with this.
I promise not to be five minutes for every 13 seconds of this mess.
But this is a really important glimpse into modern womanhood and where things are.
What we try to do with you is explore ideas that may seem out there or too scary.
Right.
Okay.
So this is, again, this is some aspects of femininity there.
This is certainly not all women, but this is a kind of upper-middle-class, self-indulgent, wine-aunt kind of femininity.
So it's not that, you know, if people have opposition to ideas, it's not because they're scary.
It's because they're exploitive and unproven.
You know, like if you sell someone some goop that doesn't really have any medical benefit while claiming that it's going to help them in some manner, well, it's not so much that, well, you know, the ideas are just too scary for you.
It's like, no, that just doesn't seem really quite on the up and up.
So let's go back again to the...
...or too scary.
Are you guys ready?
So that's swimming. What's this, a guy swimming under ice?
So that's kind of funny, too.
So this woman gets, what, this acupuncture?
I don't know what that's for.
I tried acupuncture.
I tried acupuncture and cupping for a workout injury.
The cupping actually was not too bad.
My sort of theory is it brings a lot of oxygenated blood to the wound.
Maybe it helps or whatever, right? So this woman gets a tiny little bit of acupuncture, which is not painful.
But the dude, what does he do here, right?
Too scary. She sits on a bed and has a little bit of acupuncture on her face for her skin or something.
The dude has to swim under ice, which is, I think, highly dangerous.
Looks like he's under ice there, right?
So this is highly dangerous.
Like, if you go under ice and you can't find where you come up from, you can die.
So she gets acupuncture while sitting on a comfortable bed.
He has to swim under ice like he's picking up a trinket for a Britney Spears song.
All right. Are you guys ready to go out in the field and make a ruckus?
Just another day at the office.
Okay. Energy, healing.
See, this is one of these. Just another day at the office and women going out there and making noise and making a ruckus and all of that.
I don't even know what that means. But this is sort of the conjunction.
So energy plus healing.
See, each one of those words...
It has some rational, objective definition.
Put them together, and I don't know what any of this means, and I think that's sort of the point, right?
I had an exorcism.
Oh.
See, I can't say in rational society.
If somebody says, I had an exorcism, well, that would be something for a mental health professional to help them with, right?
But, you know, these women are all going to be supportive.
And look at all these pastels and hair dye and makeup and Botox, I assume, and all this kind of stuff.
So one of the reasons, reportedly, I don't know where this gossip lands, but one of the reasons why Gwyneth Paltrow...
And the singer for Coldplay, Chris Martin, broke up was that she had become kind of psycho about the health regimen.
Like, he's like, yeah, let the kids watch a movie and let's have some treats once in a while.
No! Right? So this is one of the...
I don't know if it's true or not, but, you know, she's a little lunatic this way.
But this is so cliched, right?
This is so cliched that, you know, they're all natural, right?
All into the natural stuff.
But the hair dye and massive amounts of makeup and all of that kind of stuff is kind of typical for this kind of stuff.
All right, so... I had an exorcism.
Oh, wow. Oh, wow?
Really? Somebody is confessing that they believed that they were inhabited by a malevolent ghost from another dimension, and you're like, oh, wow.
Oh, wow, that's rad.
It's like, no, we want to be supportive!
We want to be supportive.
It's like, no, you don't want to be supportive.
Indulging people in...
A manifestation of a belief so destructive it could undo their entire personality.
That you don't want to be supportive of, right?
I had an exorcism.
Oh, wow.
I went through years of therapy in about five hours.
I went through.
So this is psychedelics, right?
So there's this idea of peyote and stuff like that.
It's 20 years of therapy in five hours and so on.
It's like, well, why do you need all that therapy?
And how does blasting your brain with chemicals that completely mess up your sense of reality, how on earth does that make you better as a human being?
You know, like recovering mental health is a big laborious process that's, I think, fundamentally philosophical because Our brains are designed to process reality and conform to society.
Those are the sort of two poles and challenges.
Now the closer society is to reality, the easier it is to adjust to both Reality and society.
But the more society drifts from and ends up opposing rationality, objectivity and empiricism, the more tension there is between being mentally healthy and conforming with society.
We want to be mentally healthy because we've got to go out there and deal with reality, but we want to conform to society because we're social animals and we fundamentally need other people to help us raise our kids.
And so this gives a lot of power to society as a whole.
If society turns against reason, it makes people absolutely miserable.
And then, of course, what it does is it charges them to make them feel better, right?
So is this Goop company, is Gwyneth Paltrow, is this ad, is Netflix, are they helping people to align...
Social beliefs with reality in order to take the pressure off the sane?
Well, no, no, of course not.
Oh, wow, you had an exorcism!
Cool! I mean, just wild, right?
And then, of course, the reason that people feel some kind of relief, if they take psychedelics and it just messes up their sense of reality, then they give up on rationality and they just conform to the anti-rational hive mind that characterizes a postmodern society.
I know, I know.
People are saying, hey man, it's just an ad.
You're reading too deep in it.
It's like, no I'm not. No, this is very, very serious stuff.
There's a reason why people pour millions of dollars into this stuff.
And so you feel a huge sense of relief when you just give up on reality and conform to the hive mind.
But that spells the death of your civilization in the not-too-distant future.
So yeah, the psychedelics.
So she went through a lot of therapy because she didn't sit there and say, wow, the people I'm surrounded by, the culture I'm surrounded by is really anti-rational.
And so I'm going to hive myself off from the hive mind and I'm going to focus on spending time with rational people.
And, you know, it's a small village that I talked about on the other side of the desert, right?
There's a city dying of a plague of anti-rationality, and if you stay in the city, you'll die, but you won't know that you're dead, and then you can instead go off into the desert, right?
Like 40 days and 40 nights style, and on the other side of the desert, and not everyone makes it, is a village, a small village of people who are rational, and, you know, we're waiting for you, right?
So... Roughly, give or take, that was an analogy that I used in my first book, On Truth, The Tyranny of Illusion.
And so you can just give up on that.
So the psychedelics break the tension between your desire for rationality as an individual and your desire for conformity with an anti-rational society just breaks that and you just untether.
You can just float off into the anti-rationality of your society because you don't, particularly as a woman, you don't have to work with material reality In order to gain your resources, right?
There was a model. She raised half a million dollars for, well, I mean, was it 200 people accused of setting the fires in Australia, right?
It's not global warming.
It's either climate change lunatics or hostile immigrants, probably.
But she raised half a million dollars by offering to sell nude pictures or to give nude pictures to anyone who sent her a receipt for donations to this charity, right?
Men, as I pointed out on Twitter, men don't really have access to this tit-for-tat economy.
So when women are young, they can run to men for resources.
If they don't have families, they can, in middle age and being elderly, they can run to the government for resources.
So because they get their resources through sexual, romantic, or political manipulation.
Now, again, there's love and there's genuine commitment and there's women doing amazing things in families, society, careers, and business and all of that.
So, again, we're just talking about a certain not-so-insignificant subsection of women who gain their resources through sexual display and then through voting patterns, through pussy hat marches, through yelling and complaining and abusing and threatening and all that kind of stuff, which happens on Twitter on a regular basis.
So they don't actually have to deal with reality so they can go into all of this anti-rational stuff knowing, at least until the money runs out from the government, that they're relatively secure.
And their anti-rationality, which would be fatal if you try and deal with objective reality that way, well, it's subsidized by the forced coercive redistribution of the state, and therefore they can indulge in this kind of stuff.
Because normally this doesn't last too long in society.
Well, it won't with us either.
So then there's something called cold therapy.
I started to feel like a panic attack coming on.
Started to feel like a panic attack coming on.
Right? And then there's a woman crying, right?
And, you know, this is kind of a cliche about women that if you're flipping through the channels, that's not something that people do as much anymore.
But it used to be if you're flipping through the channels and you're sitting there with a woman and, you know, you go like sports, ad, news, comedy, and then there's a woman crying, the woman sitting on the couch next to you is like, whoa, whoa, stop, because there's a woman crying.
I got it, right? Which, you know, again...
Makes perfect sense in that women were evolved to really work on social relationships and knit the community together and so on, largely because raising children alone was virtually impossible when you had multiple pregnancies and multiple children, you know, back in the day when we actually had fertility of something other than nihilism.
But yeah, so there's a woman crying.
She's feeling a panic attack coming on.
The question is why is she having a panic attack?
Why is she having a panic attack?
Well, could be any number of reasons.
My sort of amateur eye from over here is that we have panic attacks when there is a contradiction between our desire for conformity and our desire to deal with objective reality.
When those two come into collision, it tells a lot about how manipulative and controlling our culture is, and we don't like to see that.
Five hours. I started to feel like a panic attack coming up.
Psychic media. She knew something that my husband didn't even know.
Psychic mediums. Okay, so this is funny too, right?
This idea that we can mind link in some manner.
Well, of course it's not true, right?
I mean, just think of the evolutionary advantages of being able to mind link in terms of hunting, in terms of war, in terms of organization and so on.
It would be such a ridiculous advantage that if any...
If any tribe or group developed any kind of psychic capabilities, they would have dominated the universe hundreds of thousands of years ago.
So it's all nonsense.
And the problem with this, right?
So this is the grave danger of this kind of stuff, right?
She knew something that my husband didn't even know.
She knew something that my husband didn't even know.
Well, it's kind of like, you know, you have a dream and then something in the day mirrors your dream and you're like, oh my God, the dream was prophetic!
It's like, nope! You have thousands of dreams that don't conform to anything in your next day.
You have the one that accidentally does and is, ah, pattern, right?
But the problem with this kind of stuff is if you look on Twitter, and Scott Adams writes about this in Loser Think, it's a really good book, which is people have this belief that they can read people's minds rather than dealing with what they say.
Because, you know, it's lazy.
Imaginary mind reading is the junk food of human psychological consumption because, you know, people say this about me.
Like, I post something that's important to me and I think important to the world.
And people are like, oh, he's just trawling for attention.
Or, oh, he just hates this or hates that.
Like, this mind reading, like they can just dip deep down in the periscope of their fantasies into the darkened tea leaves of my bottom-weld soul and figure out exactly what my motives are rather than actually dealing with what I'm And you can see this all the time in shows where the man says something, could be the other way around, but usually it's the man says something, and the woman says, well, what exactly do you mean by that?
So rather than dealing with what you're saying, what exactly do you mean by that?
Can we just deal at the level of what I'm saying?
Rather than brushing past, like going through those beads that, you know, hokey mall store third nipple psychics have.
And you go through these beads and it's like people are just trying to go through your conversation, what you're actually saying, and they're just trying to dig deep into your motivations.
And that's a way of not having a conversation.
That's a way of not having a conversation, and it's a way of indulging in your fantasy belief that you can read people's minds rather than, like, all that we have to communicate is, you know, body language and words, right?
And Reaching in through people's eyeballs and trying to rummage around in the deep imagined recesses of their souls is a great way to not have a conversation.
It's so fundamentally exhausting that if you have people like that in your real life, I think you're going to shave years off your life through stress and just annoyance.
And then, ah, orgasms.
Now, I talked about this in my presentation, it's a little bit older now, but the science still holds up, called Gene Wars, G-E-N-E, Wars, about R versus K selection and so on.
So there are a group in society that care more about sexual gratification than they do about just about anything else.
And the hyper-sexualization of children and youth that's going on in society is a way of luring people into a form of sexual addiction so that they won't care about abstractions like political freedoms, they won't care about free speech, they won't care about property rights, they won't care about the restraint of the state or the rule of law as long as they can get their rocks off.
Sexual addicts, right? As long as they can get their rocks off, that's great for them, right?
They don't care about anything else in particular.
It's very, very useful to the state because sexual addiction drives state power because if people are addicted to having sex but won't get married, I mean, you know, we're all addicted to having sex in a way because we're all here because someone had sex, right?
But if you can get people addicted to sex and then not have them get married, then they will have a lot of sex.
They will screw up their pair bonding mechanisms.
There'll be STDs.
There'll be pregnancies that are unwanted and so on.
And then there'll be single motherhood.
And all of this, people then run to state power.
They run to state power to...
help them avoid the inevitable consequences of sexual addiction, right?
So our drive for sex, for sexual gratification became so strong because it was contained through the institution of marriage, right?
So, you know, the old deal, right?
Men want sex and they're willing to give commitment in order to get access to to sort of regular sex.
So think of a like a tube, right?
Or a channel or a pipe or something.
If you have the same amount of water going through, but you make it narrower, then the force of water goes greater.
Like a fire hose can jet things out, but a big wide thing would just have a trickle come out of that, right?
So our sexual drive became stronger because it was contained within monogamy.
It was contained within the marriage contract, and so it could go really wild, right?
But you take away that, and I mean, it just goes completely nuts.
And so this focus on mysticism, on anti-rationality, on mental illness, such as belief, the demonic possession on drugs as a path to enlightenment.
I mean, the doors, right?
Jim Morrison's band or the band with Jim Morrison in it are supposed to be the doors of perception and so on.
And all that happened was he allegedly flashed himself on stage, faced prison time, ran to Paris and died in a bathtub of drugs and alcohol because, of course, he would have been better off in prison.
But he ran to Paris Polanski style.
Yeah.
And so it is really interesting how this anti-rationality, this social conformity, this focus on how fascinating your own inner life and inner state is, this, like, inward staring.
See if they can get you to focus on your inner life, on...
The shape of your vulva or whatever, then you're not looking at sort of bigger political things and so on.
You're just navel-gazing and saying, well, I had a panic attack and then I sat on a hospital gurney and then I had an orgasm and then I took some drugs.
And it's just like, can you get anything rational, productive done with your life?
No. And who's paying for all of this?
Well, let's find out.
You want to talk about the vulva?
Okay, so this...
I don't even know what to say about it.
This is creepy beyond my capacity.
I'm a fairly decent wordsmith.
Even I cannot assemble the satanic syllabus of syllables necessary to describe just how horribly creepy this is.
That you've got a woman...
This is like the worst Pixar intro in the history of the universe, right?
You've got this woman taking this light and she's looking at her own vagina through a mirror.
And then there's this...
Gollum creature leaning over, staring at her vagina.
Like, what the frack is wrong with you people?
Like, oh my god, you're really supposed to...
Like, I don't even...
Like, is this... I don't even know.
Like, the fact that you'd be flashing your vagina with a mirror and a flashlight and some woman leaning over your knee...
Ogling at... I mean, that is...
What is that? Some history of sexual abuse?
Some elderly person in authority?
Like, what the hell is going on?
What on earth is going on?
I mean, can you imagine, like, going to guys?
Like, I do men's conferences from time to time because, you know, men got to talk about important stuff too.
And, you know, I can't imagine.
Imagine getting up there giving a speech like, guys, I got you some shaving mirrors and some flashlights and you're going to look at what exactly is going on behind your balls.
We're actually talking about ideas and arguments and reason and evidence and masculinity and femininity.
We're not just... Pulling a proctologist on herself and finding echoes where the sun don't shine.
I mean, look at this. Like, stare at it.
This is horrifying!
Beyond words. And this, of course, is where babies come from.
And now this is where self-indulgent, gross ogling is coming from.
Like, oh my god.
What a horrifying situation.
Naked in a room with a bunch of women?
I don't know if I have the guts.
I don't know if I have the guts.
So naked in a room with a bunch of women.
It's called having some sense of boundaries, some sense of proprietorship, some sense of self-respect, of saving your nakedness for showers and your lover, your husband, your wife.
And so on. I mean, nobody's saying everyone's got to be in a burka, but somewhere between a burka and playing origami with your folds in the presence of other people, somewhere in between those, I think, is Aristotle's happy medium.
Neither a beekeeper nor a wanton bee, I think, would be the way to go.
And this is, I don't know if I have the courage.
It's like, it's not courage to get naked in front of people.
People in Borneo do it all, the pygmies do it all the time.
Getting naked is actually kind of simple.
It's actually having some pride and self-restraint and maturity and so on.
This, like, ridiculous self-indulgence where no one says no to anything.
You know, we're supposed to have some shape.
We're not supposed to be like, you know, a wet bag of milk that goes from a tall building and just splatters on the sidewalk with no shape or form and just, oh, yes, oh, wow, you had an exorcism.
Let's get naked. Here's my vulva.
Echo, echo, echo. It's just wild.
Ever seen yourselves?
No. Why not?
Ha! Look at that.
Look at that laugh of the woman to the left.
Have you ever seen yourself?
Wait. First of all, hey, look, I'm here on the screen.
Of course I can see myself.
But what this woman is saying that the woman, have you seen yourself, yourself being her vagina?
Right? That is her flower, her origami of male gravity well for resources, right?
So she's saying, have you ever seen yourself?
Like, this is a creepy old woman in my view.
Like, you know, I get called creepy for pointing out that women get largely infertile after 40.
That's apparently creepy. But this, I'm going to look over you while you check out yourself in a mirror with a flashlight like you're spelunking for the residue of your former capacity to pair bond.
I mean, that's weird.
Like, what the hell is wrong with these people?
That, I don't know.
I don't know what to say. I mean, this is really, I mean, if a woman you know ends up in this creepy coven of highly invasive, boundaryless ogling, something's wrong.
And saying that it's a lack of courage, oh my god, what can you say?
This is dangerous.
Okay, so here, the man is leading.
Alright, so of course not a lot of men in this, not a lot of equality and so on.
And I don't know what the hell is going on here.
Okay, let me put on my glasses here and see what the hell is going on, right?
So, okay, the guy's leading them to some...
Why not? This is dangerous.
Oh, it's unregulated. Okay, so...
Oh, so this is some sort of Keith Young injection, right?
It's unregulated. Should I be scared?
Yes, you should be scared.
You really should. We're here one time.
Oh, she's a scientist now, right?
How can we really milk the shit out of this?
How can we really milk the shit out of this?
Well, I think to ask that question is to answer it.
One life. How can we really milk the shit out of this?
And look at that. I'm sorry.
I know I'm overanalyzing.
Well, not really. Hey, it's what I do.
The only old woman there, of course, is the creep who wants to look at women's vaginas with a light.
But look, this sideways look is really, really kind of fascinating.
Let's slow this down, right?
Playback speed. Boy, you ever want to do something weird?
Playback Fergie's abysmal national anthem on slow speed.
But anyway... Like that coy, sideways look of, can I invite you into my coven of anti-rationality?
And self-indulgence, right?
I mean, this is ridiculously self-indulgent.
It's all very expensive. Who's paying for this?
Well, probably ex-husbands or who knows what, right?
But this is kind of where...
We are, as a society, that all of this creepy self-indulgent, this addiction to navel-gazing, to vagina-gazing, to...
There are no kids here.
Nobody's talking about the challenges of motherhood.
It's all just, can I make my face look younger?
And, you know, what's deep in the crevasses of my lady parts?
I mean, it's just astonishing.
And... So destructive, but this is part of the power.
Like Gwyneth Paltrow is kind of pretty, right?
So this is kind of the power of pretty people and well-lit pastel spaces and so on.
And there's nothing natural about it, right?
I mean, the hair dye, she's got her teeth whitened.
I'm sure she's had stuff on her face like the Botox and all of that.
There's nothing natural about any of this stuff.
It's just hypergamy, in a sense, gone wild because the idea that...
In the past, you used to raise kids, maybe have a career, bond communities together, be the transmitter of values, have deep spiritual beliefs.
Women, church, children, and kitchen was the old statement for German women in the past.
And I'm not saying that's all women should be limited to.
Of course not. I'm a stay-at-home dad.
I'm all about breaking the stereotypes and all that.
But, yeah, in the past you used to have an orgasm with a man and you wouldn't be fascinated by your own genitalia because you'd actually have stuff to do during the day and you wouldn't be sitting there saying, well, I need to have a demon cast out, maybe a blonde one who's taking my money for goods of highly questionable benefit.
But you wouldn't sit there and say, well, you know, the important thing is for me to take drugs to find some sense of peace and avoid panic attacks.
This is a long way from robust and powerful femininity.
You know, the hand that rocks the cradle rules the world.
Values are transmitted through women.
Pair bonding occurs through women.
Women determine the shape, nature, and depth of the family.
And trading the continuity of our civilization...
For Botox, demonic possessions, swimming in ice, having creepy old women stare at your vagina, and psychedelics, you've come a long way,
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