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April 17, 2019 - Freedomain Radio - Stefan Molyneux

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	Um, free domain, I hope you're doing very well.
	And we are just going to see to get this one up and running.
	There we go.
	Yeah.
	For some reason it wasn't showing up on my other program.
	No biggie.
	I would just ask people if you'd be so very kind to just move to here, please, to here, please.
	And we will get started and I'm just going to wait until of course everyone drops by but I wanted to start so you've seen, I don't know if you've seen or not, but there's this interesting video of this guy who's really really really into the new Star Wars trailer.
	I've kind of lost track of some of the Star Wars stuff.
	Uh, I, I liked it when I was a kid, which I sort of get into, but he's really, really into it to the point where like he's, he's emotional.
	He seems to be crying.
	He's so passionate about this Star Wars video.
	And it's the kind of emotion that you would normally maybe see out of grandparents who've been told that.
	Well, I guess grandparents for the first time, who've been told that their kids are having kids and so on.
	That is incredibly strong emotional power.
	Now, this guy's been kind of mocked, and a woman, I guess, provoked a lot of guys by saying that these kinds of guys, like guys really into Star Wars and really into comic book movies and so on, are undateable.
	Now, whether they are or not, I don't know, because I can see the case both ways.
	But when I was watching this guy, my sort of big question is, why is he so passionate?
	about the Star Wars trailer.
	Why is he so passionate?
	And my mind sort of zoomed back.
	So when I was, I guess Star Wars came out, what, '77?
	So I was 11.
	And I think when I was 12, I picked up, I didn't, there was no video, I guess, imagine if people had videotapes back then.
	I certainly didn't.
	But I picked up the, this is really old school, Audio LP, which is like this big frisbee disc that you would put a needle on and I had this record player that I got from an old place named Consumers Distributing, which used to be this big giant warehouse, you'd go out and fill out these forms and you'd get this record player.
	And you couldn't even close the lid.
	You could on 45s, but not on 33s, which are the bigger records.
	And it was so bad, like the speakers were all made of plastic and the needle was not good at all.
	You put the needle on the record, put the needle on the record.
	And what you would do is you'd put the needle on and it would play and then it would skip a song, like there'd be a little bit of a blank between songs and then it eventually would get... The album would be on two sides.
	My friends would never ever want to bring their albums over to my place because my needle was so bad.
	It was kind of like a something like you'd use to peel apples, you know, the apple peelers.
	And I actually had to put... it would skim over the top.
	The needle was so fat, it would skim over the top of the album.
	So I had to put plasticine on top to the point where it slowed the records down.
	I remember one friend, before he realized all of this, brought over the record, I guess the album YMCA by the Village People.
	YMCA!
	But I had to put so much plasticine on the needle.
	Holder that was like YMCA it's fun to play at the and when I actually heard it on the radio later at full speed I'm like yeah I can see why that would be a hit and not this Quaaludes version that that I listened to but I got the album for Star Wars and I wasn't that particularly into Star Wars I was kind of a Jaws guy then I was a Superman guy I wasn't really that much into Star Wars but I really liked the album
	I liked listening to it and the dialogues just kind of, you know, burned into your, you know, when, I don't know, kids these days, right?
	Like you've got, you've got YouTube music and so on, you've got such an array of things to listen to.
	You've got podcasts, broadcasts, music, audio books.
	I mean, I understand, of course, it's only and always free domain radio, but assuming that you could listen to some other stuff, you could, right?
	But back then, you had to wait Well, cartoons came on once a week, 5 p.m.
	on Sunday.
	And I remember when we got older, I didn't do this, but some friends used to wait.
	There was a Toronto station, it's still running, called City TV that used to run what were called Baby Blues, which was like softcore pornographic films in the middle of the night run by a fellow named Moses Namer.
	And people used to wait up to watch, I don't know, you could get half a side boob or something like that.
	People would lose their minds!
	But the Star Wars thing, I remember being quite excited by it simply because, I mean, I'm talking the original one, like the New Hope.
	It's like, it is a great adventure story.
	And this guy who got very emotional about The trailers.
	I'm trying to think why, why, and I don't know why.
	Obviously I don't know the guy, but I'll tell you what I think.
	I remember I would stand on my balcony.
	So I lived in a, um, I was like, I don't know, 11 stories, I think, 11 story apartment building.
	We lived three different apartments in the same apartment building because we were waiting for more bedrooms to open up.
	And I would stand on my balcony, and my balcony overlooked a swimming pool.
	This is in the place that we settled in longer.
	It overlooked a swimming pool.
	There was an apartment across the way, and to the left there was another apartment building, then a road, and then a school, and then a forest.
	And the forest was actually quite thick.
	It's the Don Valley.
	It's great hiking and all of that.
	I was actually hiking there with my then girlfriend when I was like, you know, I'm never going to upgrade from this woman.
	I'm going to try and close the deal.
	But I remember standing on my balcony, looking out south and looking at that big giant forest.
	And I got this odd excitement and thirst and desire.
	That if that forest was unexplored, if we were like on the frontier, if we were on the edge of civilization, I know it's a swimming pool and it's an apartment building, but if I thought what a great thing it would be if there were, if I could explore those woods and no footprints had been there before me, like the frontier, the new place to go, the new thing.
	Because there's no new place in the world.
	I guess there are some undersea caves, but you've got to pay a huge amount to get there.
	But you can't just go out into the wilderness and explore new things and go to new places everywhere you go.
	You go over the next hill and there's a mall everywhere you go.
	You go over the next hill, there's a farmer's field, there's an outhouse from when people had kids.
	You know, like, there's a man-made lake, there's garbage, there's a broken plastic chair somewhere.
	There's... There's fishing line and lures in the trees, people casting everywhere you go.
	Everywhere you go.
	People have been there before.
	There's no new ground to break.
	Now, of course, when I was a kid, the new ground was going to be space, right?
	You go to space.
	Now, I gotta tell you, I mean, from what we've seen, space is not that interesting to explore.
	You go to the moon, it's like, hey!
	Another crater.
	Hey!
	Some more moon rocks.
	This is all very exciting.
	All too exciting for words.
	Mars 2.
	Oh, let's go to Mars and fulfill Elton John's warbling from the 70s and his like, eh, you know, it's just a bunch of red dust and low atmosphere and make-believe Matt Damon.
	There's really just not that much going on on Mars.
	It's not going to be that exciting.
	Now this, of course, is a time when I was starting to play Dungeons & Dragons, and I remember that first night.
	I actually looked up the guy whose house we played Dungeons & Dragons in that first night, and I remember we were in a dark forest, and orcs jumped us, and I saw it so vividly in my head.
	So vividly!
	I said, orcs were pig-faced men, and I saw it so vividly.
	I don't know if it's a European thing or just a me thing, but it was so vivid, and I was like, I was there.
	Because in Dungeons & Dragons we could explore new areas where people hadn't been before.
	Or if they'd been there before, it had been a long time.
	You go to the old catacombs or some old temple or whatever it is.
	We did the Caves of Chaos, which was an old Dungeons & Dragons module.
	We basically went through NPCs like a combine harvest that goes through wheat.
	We had an entire field where we'd bury everyone.
	And the dungeon master, bless his soul, had to come up with names for the NPCs who, I'm afraid, drop like flies in our employ.
	But I just remember thinking, and I don't know if you've had this, like, don't you want to go to some new frontier?
	Don't you want to test your wits against nature?
	I mean, even, even when I worked up north, even when I did the gold panning, the prospecting after high school for about a year and a half, a year, year and a bit, year and a half, something like that.
	Anyway, even there, we had Indigenous natives of Canada went in ahead of us to blaze the trails because we had to carry these big giant pion jar drills which weighed like 60-80 pounds and all the drill equipment on snowshoes through deep snow.
	I mean, it was really quite an intense experience.
	So we couldn't actually do all the trails ahead of time.
	So even when you drive north for two days, you end up in a tiny town called Nakina.
	You get some half-drunken pilot flying you out of Nakina.
	And you're really in the middle of nowhere.
	I mean, you're in the middle of nowhere.
	Dumas Lake?
	Was that?
	Anyway.
	And still, people have been there before because you're going through the trails that they've come up with.
	And actually, I do remember one of the guys I was working with, it's one of the things that helped me not become a geologist, and also not interested in being a geologist, but I remember him We were standing someplace in the middle of nowhere and he's like, oh man, I just realized this.
	He said, I staked this claim ten years ago.
	Like almost this exact same spot.
	I had deja vu the whole time we were... because you had to go a hundred feet, you know, hammer in your stakes and your corner pieces every kilometer to make sure with the plates on so that you knew whose was what.
	So even then, I'm in the middle of nowhere.
	and still people have been there before me and that new frontier that unbroken trail that no footprints of head of me and barely any behind me that icebreaker into a new wilderness I can totally see I mean I know that people in the 17th, 18th, 19th century who came to the new world they were fleeing religious persecution and all this kind of stuff and a lot of them didn't really want to make the voyage and a third of them went back and so on but you know the Lewis and Clark and the people who just
	Got to go new places!
	They got to... I mean, okay, yes, indigenous people have been there before, but for them, and for, you know, indigenous population was relatively low, because of course this is wildfire of smallpox that raced through the indigenous population, not to mention typhus brought over by seals, believe it or not, but they got to go over a hill and see for the first time a visage, a vista.
	A landscape and environment, at least for Europeans.
	And there's no new ground to break.
	There's no new place to go.
	And our society as well has become... I don't know if you guys feel this.
	I think you do.
	Let me know in the chat.
	But it's become so claustrophobic, so restricted, so tight.
	You know what there's not a lot of in Star Wars?
	Paperwork and forms filled out in triplicate and taxes.
	And you've got to have a permit for that, sir, and a license.
	To braid hair that requires you spend twelve hundred hours sitting in a classroom listening to some dunderhead talk about how to braid hair.
	You need a license for your kids to run a lemonade stand on the street corner.
	You got a license to Mow someone's garden, you know?
	It's so claustrophobic!
	It's so safe!
	It's so safe, it's asphyxiating!
	And I think that's what, you know, I think this guy's responding to Star Wars like, what are guys like?
	We like to explore!
	We don't mind a little combat!
	And we like staunch Boon companions, all aligned like salmons in a swift current for a particular goal of conquest, of victory, of defense, something!
	Defending Helm's Deep, whatever it is!
	Rescuing Lois Lane, you need your friends!
	And what is in the Star Wars universe, you know, there's the Jedi, there's all of the people who have this ancient order of companions who are all steadfastly dedicated to standing together and fighting the bad guys!
	And there are bad guys, but we're not allowed to fight them!
	I'm not talking about punching, like even... Oh, you know, like... You talk about controversial stuff like I talk about and... Everybody loses their minds!
	Oh no, he's got facts about brain volume!
	Eric is hysterical and it's so claustrophobic.
	You can't just say things.
	You can't just say things.
	I mean, I can't, because I'm just going to anyway, but I mean, for most people, I mean, I understand.
	Like, I'm paid for this.
	You can help me out at freedomainradio.com forward slash.
	I'm paid for this.
	So, but I, so I can go out there and I can, you know, it's Star Wars of the mind, you know, the lightsaber of reason and facts.
	The force is with you.
	The force is philosophy.
	So I can do my adventuring.
	I can take on my foes.
	I can stand firm in the face of disapproval and slander.
	I can wage battle.
	I can explore new territory.
	You know, for me at least, the mental landscape of philosophy is incredible and you're never done and there's always more to reason with and wrestle with and think about and always new data coming in.
	So...
	I think for this, I won't say kid, but this is a young man, I'm almost for sure that this young man would have grown up without a father, and he would have grown up in a female-dominated environment where it would have been, well, be very careful, and, oh, I'm sorry, we had to take those monkey bars down because some child fell and bumped his head, so I'm sorry.
	I had to go and look at a new mattress because my mattress was, I don't know, I think it had Wilma Flintstone's impression on it when we bought it to begin with, so it was getting a little, like, more squished down than Billy Idol's student futon.
	And so when we first went to look years ago for pillows, my daughter could, like, jump from bed to bed.
	And we stayed close and all that, but this time my daughter tried jumping from one bed.
	No!
	Get down.
	Why?
	Ah, some kid fell and, you know, now we continent.
	No, no one can jump from bed to bed.
	Because a kid fell.
	And we've become so paranoid about risk that it's like we don't have any life anymore.
	Don't people want to go and confront people who disagree with them?
	And I don't mean physically, I mean like intellectually.
	Don't you want to get involved in a robust debate?
	Good lord!
	Trying to get a debate.
	Someone's trying to get a debate going for me at a conference.
	Everyone's like, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope.
	Isn't that fun?
	Don't you like that?
	Don't you enjoy that?
	You know, we don't have pistols at dawn anymore.
	It's a good thing.
	Sure, it's a good thing.
	Yeah, it's a good thing.
	But can't we match wits in an auditorium?
	Can we not get involved in wrestling for the truth?
	It's not an alligator.
	It's just syllables and facts.
	But we've become so safe as a society.
	It's like, I mean, we now can't stand anyone to be upset or in pain or hurt.
	We've become so fragile.
	We're moving around like Laura Wingfield's glass collection in the Glass Menagerie, if you breathe, it breaks!
	Right?
	This is what this woman, who's kind of mildly schizophrenic or whatever it is, she's very delicate and it was based upon Tennessee Williams' sister, Rose, who ended up being institutionalized, if I remember rightly.
	And some guy comes over and he wants to see her glass collection.
	That's why the play is called The Glass Menagerie, her glass collection of figurines and stuff.
	And she's like, be careful if you breathe, it breaks.
	That's a bit of a feminine thing.
	A bit of a feminine thing, right?
	I mean, I've said this before, go back and look at the kind of playgrounds kids used to play in at the turn of the last century, like the 1900s, the 1910s.
	I mean, we'd give I mean they would give people heart attacks now just to see kids these like, you know, they're 3,000 degrees in the sun, they're like two and a half stories up and, you know, if you fall down you'll be clanging your way down like a sausage thrown through a blender.
	But we can't have.
	And when I was a kid we would just go and play, go and play, go and play, find kids, go and play.
	There were always kids around and the neighborhood was safe.
	I didn't run into any trouble until right before I was about to leave for Canada when I was 11.
	Like a couple of days before, I was down at the War Museum, or the Natural History... No, Natural History Museum.
	The War Museum was in Hendon, I think.
	The Natural History Museum, and a very merry and chirpy bunch of black youths robbed my friends and I. And we ended up, we were going to the police, we were gonna do this whole thing, but they said, oh, you're going to Canada, there's really not much point in all that.
	But, um...
	It was safe.
	You could just roam around.
	Just go.
	And we did go and explore.
	And that was all new for us.
	So we went back into the woods in the area of the council sort of flats where we lived.
	We would go back into the woods.
	We'd build our huts.
	We'd build our forts.
	We'd play.
	And I just... I don't think that happens as much anymore for kids.
	I don't think there's this glorious anarchy of spontaneous negotiation and free play with no structure.
	Now, you've got to drive places, everything's so structured, and you've got to have referees, and you've got to, like, you know, half the fun of playing war was, I gotcha!
	No, you missed!
	Well, and then you go back to the physics.
	Half of childhood play is negotiation, and disagreements, and resolving those disagreements, and maybe being a leader, and figuring out how you're going to get people to play stuff.
	But now, everything's so structured.
	There's no negotiation among the kids.
	Nobody trusts the kids to find a way to negotiate.
	It's terrible.
	I mean some of it is multiculturalism, some of it is a lower birth rate, some of it of course is people having kids later and therefore their kids are in daycare so they're not out in the neighborhood playing.
	They call them bedroom neighborhoods, is that right?
	Where like nobody's there during the day, during the evening.
	Maybe there'll be some kids out Saturday afternoon or Sunday afternoon, but there's no one really around.
	Oh yeah, dirt biking.
	You ever hear that, it's an old Adam Sandler song, Piece of Shit Car?
	I used to do it at karaoke sometimes.
	Seven different colors!
	I got a coat hanger to open the door locks and stuff.
	I got a piece of shit car.
	Well, all of my bikes, I didn't buy a new bike until I was, I don't know, in my 20s maybe?
	But yeah, my bikes were all cannibalized.
	I mean, my friends and I, we would go to... we'd go garbage picking!
	Can you imagine?
	These days, just go find some dumpsters and roam around, see what's in there.
	We used to get these giant rolls of paper, and this is how, I don't know, before computers, before the video game revolution, and my friend and I...
	Jamie, we would sit there with pencils and you'd push the top of the pencil and it would flick forward and that would be where your car would go around a racetrack and you couldn't hit the sides and, like, this is how he amused herself.
	And that's why Dungeons & Dragons was so great, because it was free.
	Well, cheap, anyway.
	But, um, yeah, we used to go garbage picking and I used to find bits of bikes and you'd just assemble some Frankenbike, you know, you never, you were never, like, even because one wheel was always bigger or smaller than the other and You know, half the time you'd be worried about the thing falling apart and, you know, sometimes when you'd turn it, because the ball bearings would be kind of jammed in there, they would be like, I don't know, turning the neck of a broken guy or something.
	It was rough.
	But fun.
	But fun.
	And I didn't want for money much in those days.
	I do remember it being $1.90 to go downtown to see a movie.
	It was $0.20 to get on the bus and $1.50 to get in to see the movie, and my friend and I went to go see Rocky, which was actually a good movie for me, because it got me out of being more inactive and kind of depressed, and I got more into sports.
	I was on the cross-country running team, I was on the swim team, I was on the water polo team, and I played soccer relentlessly, and tennis a lot, and yeah, it kind of got me moving that and participation, but anyway.
	So this kid, you know, like, why is he so excited?
	Because he's seeing people have adventures.
	He's seeing people risk.
	He's not being told, be careful, be careful, be careful, be careful, be careful your whole damn life.
	And I get, I mean, I get it.
	I mean, one slip, one disaster, you know, like the guy in my boarding school.
	Oh God.
	In my boarding school, there was a kid.
	young blonde boy who was so athletic it was eerie.
	Now I'm semi, I'm pretty athletic but you know there's some people who are just like fish to water.
	When this kid was a soccer champion like you wouldn't believe.
	Like you face that guy down and it was like he just turned into some sort of oiled lightning quicksilver and he just, he'd like warp past the ball with you like he was something out of a Star Trek episode.
	He'd be by like what happened?
	You just ended up looking like an idiot right?
	And then so I mean I know the disaster like I understand that I want to be sensible and sensitive to all of that because one day we're in the swimming pool and you know when when there's injuries kind of floating around people are like oh that's you know that's too bad right oh you know he got he got a strawberry knee he um he got a bruise maybe he got a black eye or he slipped or you know he hit his ribs or you know oh man are you okay yeah that kind of stuff right so you know there's that kind of injury and then there's the kind of injury
	where like everyone just goes silent like oh my god somebody just got really really really damaged and that happened to this kid my understanding was that he tried to do a flip off the shallow end of the pool he hit his head and he was unconscious and because all the kids all the kids were sort of this when i was six or seven all sort of playing around and nobody noticed for a while and He, you know, was carried out on a stretcher and he was not the kind of color that any Caucasian should be, or anyone for that matter.
	And, oh man, yeah, he was gone for a long time and when he came back, I mean, I still see his face and he'd lost control of half of his body.
	I guess he'd had some sort of brain damage, some sort of oxygen deprivation had happened and he could barely run and he could barely speak.
	He was back in school so I assume that his intellect was still functioning but his control over his body was shot and it was just terrible.
	And so I'm aware of that and you do have to be careful and when I used to do a lot of diving As a kid, I remember a couple of times you'd do the flip and a half, which was sort of my specialty, and, you know, you kind of get a sense of whether you're close to that diving board and you're going to come crunching down on it with your skull, and that happened almost a couple times.
	It never did, but I used to do so many of those flips, and, you know, there comes a time when you're just like, ah, you know, I'm I'm never doing that again.
	You know, that's all deep in the rear view for me now.
	So this kid, he wants adventure.
	He wants unfettered risk.
	He wants to choose for himself glory or disaster, I think.
	And he just can't get it in this gynocentric, female-heavy, caution, caution, caution, don't offend, don't upset, don't breathe, don't move, don't be loud, don't thump, don't play act, don't play wrestle, don't Be a boy!
	Or be a tomboy!
	Don't be any of these things.
	Shh!
	Can everybody be nice and quiet now?
	Ugh.
	It's like we risk everything to get this secure civilization.
	The secure civilization kills risk.
	And with it, our sole light goes out.
	All right.
	Thank you, everyone, for listening to the ramblings of a guy who, for odd reasons, is still kind of focusing on his childhood.
	But let's get to some of your questions.
	Thanks for your patience.
	freedomainradio.com forward slash donate if you want to help out, that would be super helpful, of course.
	Although I will also check out the super chats and other questions as well.
	All right.
	Thank you, everyone.
	Let's go through your questions.
	And again, it's an ask me anything kind of situation.
	So let's get it started.
	Andrew Davis, thank you so much.
	Eamon Harper, thank you.
	Edwin B. says, Stefan, if women were not allowed to vote in any country for 10 years, how would the world change?
	How would the world change?
	Well, women support the welfare state.
	Women support restrictions on freedom of speech.
	And so you would save freedom of speech and you would save the West from the claustrophobic migrant magnet of the welfare state.
	So there would be quite a few changes.
	Ken O says, there is new ground.
	Go to Papua New Guinea.
	Most is unexplored.
	Hmm.
	Oh, that's a point.
	That's a point.
	Nick Thibodeau, thank you.
	Sixteenth, sorry, Andrew Davis says, Stefan, thoughts on William Lane Craig and his use of the Kalam cosmological and teleological arguments for the existence of God.
	Well, here's where you find out that there's stuff I don't know, and I'm sorry about that.
	Enter a name here, thank you for your donation.
	Asks, where's Ruth?
	To which I can only answer what some people think, that this show is entirely ruthless.
	Matt V, like Malcolm X, says, have you seen Cobra Kai?
	It's pretty damn great.
	I have not.
	Nico Angel says, your Minecraft vids are cute as heck!
	Thank you very much, I appreciate that.
	We had a friend of my daughter's over for the weekend, which was just a blast, and we did do a Minecraft show, but I'm not sure if I'll get time to do it any time soon, like go over it any time soon, but it was a lot of fun.
	And I'm starting to get it!
	I'm starting to get it.
	Okay, David Wadham, thank you.
	Wise Wildflower says, flying into a black hole equals exploration and discovery.
	Uh, no.
	No, no it doesn't.
	So I'm sure you guys know this, but for those of you who don't, and by the way, by the way...
	The woman who was supposedly responsible for that photo, at least according to reports that I read, it was actually a guy who wrote most of the code for all of that.
	But anyway, a black hole is super compressed matter, so compressed that like the entire world fits into like a sugar cube size of a black hole.
	Super compressed matter where the gravitational force is so strong that even light cannot escape its surface, so you cannot fly into a black hole.
	It's a hole in what we can record, But it's the very opposite of a hole in that it's the most super dense matter in the known universe as far as I know.
	And so, yeah, I'm sorry to be so annoyingly physics nerd pedantic, but no, you cannot fly.
	It's not a black hole.
	It's just been observed like... We can't observe it because nothing comes back out.
	Like after you pass the event horizon, you can't get back out.
	Archaeofuturists, thank you.
	Philip Swiecki says, philosophical question.
	Young co-parenting dad.
	Ethics of relationship with new woman.
	Emergency occurs.
	Save one woman.
	Must save son's mom.
	Else deprive son of mom.
	Dilemma.
	Tired of one night stands.
	What?
	Okay, I'll do a flyby of this again.
	We hit something on the road.
	Let's look back and see.
	Young, co-parenting dad.
	Ethics of relationship with new woman.
	Emergency occurs.
	Save one woman.
	Must save son's mom.
	Else deprive son of mom.
	Dilemma.
	Tired of one night stands.
	Sorry, you'll have to give me more on that.
	I don't know what they mean.
	Star Knight says, keep up the good work.
	Thank you.
	Matt V says, I support bringing back pistols at dawn.
	Can Jules bring the West back?
	Saygar says, you see what's going on in Paris, I think in this time in history there should be more violence.
	Why do we not see more violence in America, like Occupy Wall Street?
	That is a very interesting question.
	Now this is not any kind of advocation of violence, I'm a reason and evidence kind of guy, but The reason why we don't see more violence is because the government is still printing and borrowing money, right?
	So we will see violence when the government stops printing and borrowing money.
	That's when we're going to start to see some significant violence.
	There's that and also I mean the left is the sort of the communist socialist left is positioning itself sort of day by day for
	uh... when they can unleash violence right so they're working with the media to make sure that the media portrays people as nazis and and far-rights and fascist and and whatever right so that there's no sympathy when they unleash violence on those people right so they're unpersoning people in terms of social acceptability and then what they do is that then will unleash violence on those people and people will cheer because there is a great hunger for violence on the part of the left and of course on the part of the extreme right if you're gonna sort of put fascism in there although
	Mussolini was originally a Marxist and Hitler was a National Socialist, but, you know, going with the standard narrative, the far left and the far right, both very, very thirsty for violence.
	You know, there's a lot of people out there who really like to fight.
	Oh no, they don't like to fight evenly, right?
	They like to sort of overwhelm, which is why the leftists like to disarm the population.
	But there's a lot of people out there who really like violence.
	It is a sad and unfortunate aspect of human evolution that violence You know, it works pretty damn well in a lot of ways.
	Violence is just an argument that Noam Chomsky... Violence works really well.
	It's why people use it.
	It cows people down.
	It scares people.
	It shies people away from the truth.
	It has people second-guess themselves and censor themselves.
	Violence is very...
	Effective in society and there's a reason why the government threatens everyone and there's a reason why The far-left activists threaten people and maybe it works It works.
	I mean, there's lots of people in Europe who want to say stuff about what's going on and they're just scared and so yeah violence works really well and there's a reason why it is quite common in terms of people's desires to want to use violence because they're bred that way right?
	I mean there's no aspect of the personality that is excluded from genetic predilection and so violence is well it's mankind's oldest hobby right?
	I mean violence is is what we do violence is The natural state of things, this whole idea that we have law courts that everybody respects and the whole idea that we set aside our differences and we act in a civilized manner and we reason with each other, which is decaying every day, that's way off the beaten path of human history.
	It's way off the beaten path of human history.
	I mean, half of the ancient Greek city-states were slaves.
	No, they had the death penalty to Socrates for saying things that people didn't like.
	You know, I mean, hate speech laws are bad and immoral, but it's not the death penalty.
	The punishments that used to be meted out in medieval England Two people who stagger the imagination.
	I mean, I'm not just talking the beheadings and the hangings.
	Those are actually kind of later.
	The tortures that people used to have, they used to be disemboweled and their guts used to be pulled out in front of cheering crowds who came there with popcorn and children to enjoy an afternoon's entertainment.
	There was the being drawn and quartered.
	Right?
	Hacked and you'd get a horse, four horses tied to each limb with a rope and just the horses would be charged apart and rip some guy limb from limb.
	Now that was a pretty fast way to go.
	There was, um, breaking people on the wheel, stretching them out slowly, cracking them, like, the, the...
	The brutality and the violence.
	I mean, look at the ancient Aztecs ripping people's hearts out and eating them.
	You've got cannibalism and slavery among the indigenous population of America.
	You have the Mayans, the Aztecs, the Incans, the amount of brutality that went on there, the hand chopping off in the Middle East under Sharia, the stoning to death of people.
	I mean, dear Lord, we are We are a violent, violent species and wrestling that violence down into a relatively civilized discourse was the work of thousands of years and countless lives.
	I mean the religious warfare that went on in particular in Germany after the Reformation was staggering.
	I mean people would, you know, they had the Anabaptists who believed in adult baptism and they'd just hold their heads underwater and drown them and say, how do you like your adult baptism now?
	As I've said before on the show, there's a traveler in Germany, I think it was the 18th century, 17th century, said you could scarcely see a tree without a body hanging from it.
	There was a movie, I don't know if you remember the name of it, it's called Jack... it was about Jack the Ripper.
	And the movie Had Jack the Ripper come forward in time, and he was watching TV, and Jack the Ripper was saying like, oh yeah, this is my kind of world, man, these guys got it going on!
	You know, this is excellent stuff!
	We are a ferocious species!
	We are a brutal species, and we've been bred that way for tens of thousands of years.
	Think of the Colosseums in Rome where you had people with nets and tridents hacking each other to bits.
	When I was, I don't know, 20, 21 or something like that, I went with two friends on a vacation to Mexico and we went to a bullfight because, you know, I was curious.
	And my God, there's a line from Hemingway, the roar of the only real beast in the bullfight arena, the crowd.
	The crowd is the beast.
	Because I thought it was just kind of like a dance with a bull and then, you know, but no, they slice it, they hack it, the shoulder opens up.
	I mean, it is the disassembly of a living animal in front of a cheering crowd.
	It was kind of sickening.
	I was really mad at that guy too, because we filmed a bunch of it and filmed the vacation.
	And then he's like, yeah, sure, you can x-ray my film on the way back out.
	Lost it all.
	But anyway, we are brutal.
	We are a brutal, brutal species.
	That's the default condition of human beings is sociopathy.
	Like animals, right?
	I mean, but with ideology, which makes it even worse, right?
	I mean, you guys know that when a male lion takes over a female, he just kills all the children.
	Because that's what evolution would demand that he do, so that he doesn't invest resources into genes that aren't his!
	Brutality is the natural order of the animal world.
	Empathy outside your own family, your own particular clan, your own particular tribe is non-existent, right?
	So the ideologies out there that have far higher moral obligations to in-group members and perhaps none or even negative moral obligations to out-group members, that's the natural order of things.
	There's a reason why those ideologies are growing and spreading.
	Because you hate the out-group and you love the in-group.
	And in all computer modeling simulations of group conflicts, which is different from global warming because it's not projections, but all computer simulations models of human conflict, if you have in-group preference, out-group hostility, you win every time.
	There's a reason why the left only promotes their own kind and hates the other non-leftists or anti-leftists, right?
	And there's a reason why The groups who have in-group preferences do so well, which is why whites aren't allowed to have in-group preferences, right, in the modern world, because, well, we gotta pay taxes, right, so everyone else's multicultural experiment can work out.
	So yeah, we are a vicious brutal, demonic, monstrous, evil species as a whole.
	And this little bit of civility that we've managed to wrestle out of the brutalities of human nature over the past 200 years or so, It ain't natural.
	And women are just as brutal as men.
	Women are just as brutal as men, and if you want to break an in-group preference of any group, you work on the women to try and develop out-group preferences among the women, and it just flows from there.
	So, that's the natural order of things.
	And so, the fact that there are people out there who are thirsting to use violence and love being bullies, well, yeah!
	We're the exception, you understand?
	We're like the genetic experiment that nature is doing to see if it possibly works, and it doesn't.
	It doesn't when there's a government, it doesn't when there's government indoctrination, it doesn't, like it just doesn't work!
	Just doesn't work.
	It doesn't work.
	Universal morality.
	is philosophically sound, but in the presence of a state and of needy greedy people voting to take away other people's resources, it's a complete disaster.
	It's a complete disaster.
	So, yeah, the left is positioning themselves because they have this built-up... well, I mean, the left, I mean, they hate... because they've been lied to, right?
	They've been lied to and they've been told that the only reason people are rich is because they steal and therefore they can imagine that they're Robin Hood and they can go and... but basically they just want to do... well, it's the old thing, some men just want to watch the world burn, right?
	So, yeah, the left is positioning themselves for violence and as it stands right now, pretty much looks like they're going to get it.
	So, yeah, the violence will be coming.
	Pod says refood.
	Okay, so that's a family of origin.
	So if you have abusive family members, usually parents, of course, if you have abusive parents growing up, you don't have to see them as an adult, right?
	You're free to see them.
	You're free not to see them.
	You don't have to see them.
	Which is exactly what I was told when I was growing up about all relationships right?
	Because I was raised of course in the big brewing simmering pot of feminism and men are pigs and the patriarchy is evil and all that kind of stuff and I was always told that a woman, you see a woman, if she's in a relationship that she just doesn't find satisfying She can just leave.
	It didn't even have to be abusive.
	Of course, she's been beaten up or whatever, right?
	She's verbally abused or physically abused.
	She should just get out.
	But even if it was just unsatisfying, right?
	Like the majority of women who file for divorce just say that they're unsatisfied.
	Yeah, all right.
	Yeah, sure.
	Roll a grenade into the tent called the nuclear family because you're dissatisfied.
	But I was told that if you weren't happy in a relationship, you could just leave.
	Bye.
	I'm like, okay, well, women all told me that if you're not happy in a relationship, you can just leave.
	And of course, women choose to be in a marriage, right?
	You date a guy, you get engaged to a guy, you choose to marry.
	So it's all choice.
	You don't choose your parents.
	Don't choose your parents at all.
	I do remember some woo-woo mystical woman telling me once, yes, but we do choose our parents in a deeper sense.
	I'm like, To hell with your woo-woo bullshit and choose our parents.
	Come on.
	Well, you chose your parents because they have a lesson to teach you.
	Yeah, I chose the child-beating crazy woman and yeah, yeah, I chose for my dad to be in South Africa because it teaches me geography.
	What is that old line?
	War is America's... I know, war is the world's way of trying to teach Americans geography.
	So yeah, so if you, and I've said this from the beginning of the show, and you know, if you're going to separate from parents, first of all, sit down and talk with them, and try and work things out, tell them what your issues are, tell them what your grievances are, and really try and work it out.
	Don't separate in general from parents without talking to a therapist, without going through therapy, because it's a big deal.
	It shouldn't be, but it is, because it's such a social taboo, which I kind of found out.
	You know, if you're just kind of sailing along merrily saying, oh yeah, no, I was told that if you're not happy in a relationship, you can just leave, and it's empowering, it's good for you, good for you, you're not putting up a second best, you're being responsible for your own happiness, you're taking ownership of your own life, and you're refusing to put up with something that's unsatisfying for you.
	I'm like, wow, that's It's been pretty destructive to my family, but I guess if that's what people believe, that's what people believe.
	So then, you know, I start the show and people are like, oh, you know, I gotta go and see my abusive parents.
	I'm like, why?
	Why?
	I don't tell anyone to leave anyone, because I don't tell people what to do, but of course the media was like, oh, he's breaking up families!
	It's like, they never said that about the feminists, but I guess that's because they were pursuing the left's agenda, so.
	So anyway, that's what defooing is, separation from your family, and the reason you use foo is family of origin.
	I don't know if it's my word or not, but family of origin is not.
	Just so when you say you're leaving your family, it's differentiated from any current family you might have, like a wife or whatever, but Anyway, so this guy says refood which means he went back.
	So I guess he separated from his family of origin and then he went back So he said refood a while back due to mental breakdown and needing support What are the mental slash subconscious consequences of refueling?
	Out now for good, but what damage may I have done to myself?
	Thanks.
	Hmm Well, that's interesting I'm sorry to hear about your mental breakdown and You know any port in a storm as far as this goes I don't know.
	Out now if we're good, but what damage may I have done to myself?
	Okay, this is my general rule.
	I haven't talked about it in a while, so I'll keep this brief.
	This is my general rule.
	All is permitted as long as you're honest with yourself.
	Right?
	All is permitted as long as you're honest with yourself.
	The moment you lie to yourself, that's kind of important, right?
	If you lie to yourself, you're setting up a very uneasy relationship with yourself.
	So, all is permitted as long as you're honest to yourself.
	Now, I don't mean axe-murdering people.
	I'm honestly, right?
	I don't mean any of that.
	I'm talking about like interpersonal issues, right?
	It all is permitted as long as you're honest with yourself and as long as you know why you're doing it.
	As long as you know why you're doing it.
	And if you know why you're doing something and you're relentlessly honest with yourself, you kind of can't go wrong, at least in my experience, from there.
	So that would be my suggestion.
	Just, you know, if you went back because you really needed just a place to stay, then you are honest with yourself and you say, well, I went back because I really needed a place to stay.
	And so I think that's, uh, that's the way that I would, I would take it.
	And that's the way that I would do it.
	Let's see here.
	Tyler Johnson, thank you.
	Satoshi Bear says, Toe Rogan looks like a thumb.
	Yeah, you know, Joe Rogan, bold jokes, it's kind of easy, you know, so.
	All right.
	Hazar Gamer says, do you think Trump's response to the question about pardoning Julian Assange is going to harm his chances for 2020 election?
	Well, we're a long way from that election, my friends.
	What is it, still a year and a half or more?
	Is it November 2020?
	Okay.
	So Trump said he loved WikiLeaks when WikiLeaks was leaking stuff damaging to Hillary, and then he was asked about Julian Assange more recently, and he said, I don't really know much about WikiLeaks and all that.
	Listen, that's a clear sign that he does not want to be perceived as interfering with whatever investigation is going forward, which means that the investigation that's going forward is most likely to be beneficial to Julian Assange in the long run.
	You know, if there's something that's going on legally with someone and you're the president, you can't say, nah, that guy should totally be free, he should be exonerated, he's a hero, because then you're perceived as interfering, blah, blah, blah, right?
	So, he had the right answer.
	You know, if he said, oh, that guy should go to jail, too, and so on, again, that's, you know, you gotta just, you gotta understand where he's coming from.
	He's got reporters, like, can you imagine, like, Every time you take a deep breath, there's 10,000 people saying, he's gonna sneeze!
	I mean, that's... God, I mean, what the guy handles is... I mean, it's really, really astonishing.
	So, no, I think that Julian Assange is gonna do pretty well out of his... I mean, he may get a slap on the wrist, he may get...
	I mean, time served for his hole in the wall in the Ecuadorian embassy.
	Time served.
	I mean, I don't think that really bad things are going to happen to Julian Assange because he just knows where too many bodies are buried.
	So, Trump is doing the right thing with regards to being completely neutral in a potential legal situation and I think that bodes well for Julian Assange.
	I hope that makes sense.
	M.O., thank you very much.
	Jason Lozano, favorite critter to eat?
	Oh, you're just going to get me in trouble with anyone and everyone.
	I like me a nice piece of fish.
	All right.
	Edwin B. says, Stefan, should physicians be forced to accept and treat patients with low reimbursement government insurance, Medicaid?
	Well, no, of course not.
	Of course not.
	Physicians should not have a government-provided monopoly market on the provision of health care.
	There should be no such thing as Medicare and no such thing as Medicaid.
	And the free market should determine risk along with lawsuits of various medical issues.
	The intrusion of government into health care is why health care in America is fairly crappy, but still better than up here in Canada.
	So there's a couple of things you need to reference.
	So first of all, look up my interviews with Dr. Kevin Smith of the Surgery Center of Oklahoma.
	He saved my life.
	opened me up like a piñata down here on my neck I went up with some delicate squid-like golem instruments and and pulled out a cancerous tumor from my neck to the point where it has not come back and thanks again to him for for all of that and also so he's got... I've done a couple interviews with him and I can't recommend those guys highly enough literally saved my life so if you got an issue go talk to them so
	Also, I did interviews with Dr. Mary Ruart, R-U-W-A-R-T, and she's got math out there that says that the FDA has caused the deaths, if I remember rightly, of about 5 million Americans.
	They're not saving people at all.
	They've caused the deaths of about 5 million Americans because they've kept off-the-market drugs which are perfectly safe and accepted in other countries and that has caused the death of premature deaths of millions of Americans.
	So, no.
	The government should stay the hell out of healthcare.
	Ah!
	Dr. Rod Long.
	Great porn name and also a good professor.
	Roderick Long.
	He's got... Just do Roderick Long and healthcare and he's got an article basically saying that the reason why health care is so expensive is because of the government that there was a health care crisis a little over a hundred years ago in america and what it was was health care was too cheap for one day's wages you got access to a doctor for a year as being part of a large or friendly society you know like the the shriners and so on a kind of a leftover group of these so no there should be no compulsion in the area of health care
	Childhood Institute, thank you for your donation, says, how did you deal with loneliness in your 20s, i.e.
	in moments when you lacked philosophical friends and a quality romantic partner?
	Hmm... I was actually talking about this with someone the other day.
	I... I don't know that I've ever experienced loneliness.
	I'm so populated in my head.
	I'd like a little bit.
	No, I don't.
	Like I was thinking about this the other day, because I know people complain about this and I take it very seriously.
	It's a very, very big issue.
	So I was lucky when I was younger and I read an article by Malcolm Gladwell about this.
	There just happened to be a group of us who just were super smart.
	And it was kind of like an odd little aggregation, like the planets kind of lining up.
	I mean I got one friend from, I mean just think of my Dungeons and Dragons crew, one of them became an English professor, one of them became an econ professor, one of them became a professor of mechanical engineering, another one became a writer, I'm doing this, like there was just this group, this group of smart people Who weren't like, you know, like that sort of Sheldon from Big Bang Theory, this sort of semi-autistic, narcissistic, whatever, right?
	Like he saves all his paychecks because he says everything I want to buy hasn't been invented yet.
	But no, we were all pretty social and we played together, we debated together, we introduced each other to books, like it was a really good crew.
	And, you know, I will be eternally grateful for the stimulation.
	I had other friends who were more nihilistic but funnier, which is a combination that happens quite often.
	But yeah, the group of people who were just very smart.
	really helped simulate, and of course it was one of them who gave me my first copy of The Fountainhead, which changed a lot for me, and earlier than that one of them had given me one of Aristotle's books, and before that one of them had given me Crime and Punishment, and it was just like, you know, like just this old faithful Vesuvius geiser of Krakatoa building mental structures.
	So that gave me... I enjoy I don't know I mean how much you guys care about my personal life but I enjoy like that time in the morning when you wake up and to my level what it is you want to do with your day to shape your intention as someone once said to me my level what it is you want to achieve with your day and I love that time head nestled in the pillow
	Birds singing outside, light coming in through the window.
	It's quiet.
	It's peaceful.
	And I can just turn things over in my mind.
	I can solve problems.
	I can figure out what it is that I want to talk about.
	I can mull.
	And it's like I got 12 Rubik's Cubes all rolled around in my brain.
	Like, yeah, so this friend of mine, I told him we can't picture more than eight or nine things in our mind at the same time.
	He didn't believe me at all.
	We had a bet.
	And he couldn't, right?
	I mean, he was very, you know, he was like, you think of one light, two lights, three, you can get to seven or eight and then they start to dissolve at the beginning.
	And I'm like, you can only hold eight or nine things anyway.
	I just remember that from when I was a kid.
	I also remember one of the great athletes in school, I gave blood and he said, well, he didn't want to give blood because he had a competition.
	So I arm wrestled him and won and then he gave blood.
	I remember that guy.
	He's really nice.
	So I don't generally experience loneliness, at least I can't remember experiencing loneliness.
	And so, you know, and I hate to sort of... I don't want you to feel bad.
	I mean, I don't want you to feel bad for this at all.
	Like, oh, well Steph doesn't deal with loneliness, that must mean I'm... it's worse.
	No, it's not.
	Like, everyone has their different things that they need to deal with, right?
	And so I have my things that I need to deal with.
	This loneliness isn't one of them because I'm pretty well populated up in here, you know.
	I mean, I have conversations and debates with myself.
	I wait for inspiration.
	I have this odd thing.
	Like, I did this response to Rationality Rules recently, and oh man, it was crazy.
	Because I did three takes of an hour and a half each.
	First take was good but then I kind of missed something or I wasn't it wasn't like yeah I know when I've got the clincher of the argument and I did it and it was a bit a premature elaboration all over my keyboard.
	And then I did another one, and I mulled it over, and I made some notes, and I talked about it with people, and I'm like, ah, it's good, you know, I'm 80%, and I, ah, you know, and then I didn't, and I was like, I'll just do another one, and I'd rarely do more than one take, but this one I did like three soup-to-nuts takes, just to, uh, just to get it right, and So I always have philosophical problems to work on, issues to solve, pushbacks against, irrational arguments.
	So I don't really experience loneliness too much, because I'm busy in my brain a lot.
	Sometimes perhaps too much, but I don't really deal with loneliness.
	The question of loneliness, to me though, is it's always not what am I feeling, but what does my feeling want me to do?
	So feelings are not just things that sit in you like some undigestible piece of food.
	Feelings are spurs to action.
	And they can also be spurs to inaction, right?
	Like the fight or flight, right?
	So if you're in the woods and you hear something snap on the ground, you might freeze.
	Because the fear is... So fear can sometimes promote inaction and fear can sometimes promote the flight, right?
	The action or aggression or punching back or fighting back or whatever it is.
	So the question is, what is the loneliness trying to get you to change in terms of your behavior?
	And what's just popped into my mind, I don't deal with loneliness, if you read my first book, well my first book in this genre, it's called On Truth, The Tyranny of Illusion, and there is a section at the end of it about you leave the city of lies, you cross the desert, and you get to the village of truth.
	And it's not very well populated, and it's a little dilapidated, but here we are careful with it, we are honest.
	With the facts and there's not many of us here.
	But the few that are here.
	are far more populous than the empty souls of the city because you can have a thousand people around you who aren't talking to you isolation in the crowd or you can have a few people around you who really get you and the multitude will make you lonely and the small number of high-quality people will assuage any loneliness that you might have so you might be stuck in the null zone between the city the empty city And the lightly but quality populated village of truth.
	So there's no turning back, just keep going on until you find people who you can talk to.
	I hope that helps.
	What is your feeling telling you to do?
	Because your feeling will continue until it is satisfied that it is no longer needed, right?
	So you get the fight or flight until you're safe.
	M.O.
	says, 42 year old mom died last year and I think I want a child.
	Girlfriend of 12 years doesn't.
	I cheated on her and it's been hard before.
	Thoughts.
	42 year old mom died last year.
	Guys, you got to give me more.
	I mean, I'm not asking for an essay and you don't have to give me memoirs from the house of the dead.
	But what does this mean?
	42 year old mom.
	Okay, so you're a 42-year-old mom now, because you want a child.
	So a 42-year-old mom died last year, and I think I want a child.
	Oh, girlfriend.
	Sorry, girlfriend of 12 years doesn't.
	Look, if you're cheating on a girl, just break up.
	Just break up with her.
	Just do the decent, honorable thing.
	Don't use her.
	If you cheated on someone, it's over.
	Just break up with her.
	I know, I said 12 years and so on, but if you want a child and she doesn't, If you really want a child and she doesn't, you're going to resent the hell out of her.
	If you let her strip you of fertility, just go find someone you can have a child with who's going to be a great mom and recognize that cheating is, it's leaving the relationship without leaving the relationship.
	And that's, that's a really isolated place to be.
	So.
	Leo says, you mentioned in a talk that Freud had a calling and denied it.
	How does one know it's real?
	I'm sorry, I can't remember that.
	I'm sure I did.
	Ah, let's see here.
	Anderson Ribeiro says, have you ever feared for your life or your family's?
	Why is it that we never see your family on videos?
	Also, why don't you have a producer anymore?
	Well, you know, things change.
	We worked together for five years.
	It was a great working relationship, but, you know, things change and so that's fine.
	Why do we never see your family on videos?
	Well, I mean, I can't make the decision for my daughter.
	My wife is a private person.
	So, have I ever feared for my life and my family's?
	Well, yeah, of course.
	Of course.
	I mean, of course.
	All right, Mrs. Friendzone says, please grow your beard, every great man needs one.
	Well, you know, the beard's funny too, because I'm somewhat partial to the beard, just because I don't really like shaving, but my wife prefers me smooth-shaven, but because I'm being pretty harshly suppressed on YouTube these days, views are going down, I'm trying to sort of work them back up and so on, and because people have said that they prefer it, They prefer me with a beard.
	It's like, yeah, if this helps views, I'll grow a beard and all that.
	So, you know, if you guys are listening to this and given that I am being suppressed, I'm not showing up in search results, I think suggested videos are down, you need to share.
	I mean, you need to share.
	The only way that this is going to be sustainable is if you guys share.
	I'm sorry about that because I know it can be a little tricky to share someone so controversially sane as I am, but it would be really, really helpful.
	All right, Daddy Dragon says the UK left the EU on the 29th of March 2019 at 11 p.m.
	and a court case is in the Royal Courts of Justice.
	MSM will not cover it.
	Will you?
	Yes.
	Yes, I have been meaning to do something on the EU but I have... I will tell you.
	So I've finished 40 plus slides on the truth about Plato because I just miss the philosophy, you know, like I know that the current events is important and I do it and that it gets views and I know the philosophy of current events is essential, but I miss just the pure philosophy stuff.
	Like I did a podcast in my car, an introduction to concept formation, which is like, I loved it.
	And it was like, oh, this makes me so happy.
	And it's like, nobody cares.
	Nobody cares.
	I mean, I think it's a great show, but people are like, well, it's not about Paris burning.
	So, all right.
	Johnny Drake, thank you.
	Kim Lee says, what do you think about the environmental destruction caused by animal agriculture?
	Would you ever consider going plant-based or mostly plant-based?
	I was actually a vegetarian for quite some time, but I'm like, I'm sorry.
	I just, maybe it's, I don't work out super hard, but I do work out and I just was dragging.
	I mean, I've taken my supplements and all that, so now I do eat some meat and some fish from time to time.
	I think that people should minimize consumption of animal products, certainly the animals themselves.
	You know, I think it's better all around.
	So that's my suggestion.
	Debjit says, thank you, says, what are all the types of programming that you look for in your call-in shows?
	Examples, what are women good for?
	Well, listen, I mean, and for those who've emailed in, it's sometimes because we don't have a call-in show anymore, right?
	I mean, there's not like a scheduled thing where I go for four hours, and I think that the call-in shows are better because of that.
	So I would say that just be persistent.
	Just keep pinging me and we'll work it out.
	Sometimes I can just be like, oh, I've got an hour and a half and an email just came in.
	Let's go, right?
	So I'm sorry.
	I wish I had a better way to schedule it, but I haven't.
	Radar Ashwood says, Steph, you are handsome.
	XOXO.
	Well, thank you very much.
	I'm not going to disagree with you there.
	Sheen Lenton says hello Stefan.
	What do you believe caused the AIDS crisis in the 80s?
	Or do you agree that it was a cultural revolution in the late 1960s?
	Thank you.
	Well the AIDS crisis as far as I understood it was it came from Somebody who who ate a chimpanzee or an ape or an animal as far as I understand it.
	I'm no expert on this but You know the the gay community not all of it And Scott Thompson from Kids in the Hall has written about this, you know, I'd rather be home with a book than out at a gay pride parade, but the gay community can be hypersexual.
	And it is the male sex drive without the female, you know, at least what used to be the case of the female breaks.
	And yeah, it's rough, you know, it can be pretty rough.
	I mean, I had roommates when I was doing my master's degree, they had sex, they met, and then they went on a date.
	That's really outside the pale for us heteros, at least those of us who were around in the 70s and 80s.
	I mean, I wasn't having sex in the 70s, of course, right?
	That is a big, a big problem.
	It's a big problem.
	Like Freddie Mercury was gay of course, well bisexual, drifting towards gay.
	And he, you know, I was just watching a documentary the other day and someone who knew him said, oh there's this dangerous disease, are you slowing down?
	And he says, I'm doing everything with everyone.
	My philosophy is effort, you know, and effort seems to be what happened, right?
	I mean, One of my roommates was telling me a story about how somebody phoned, it was a wrong number, he ended up chatting with the guy, the guy came over and they had sex.
	Now, I mean, I don't think it worked out very well for them.
	The older gay men, I mean, it's a very body-obsessed culture in a lot of ways, and of course youth-obsessed culture in a lot of ways.
	I knew a guy who was, he'd come to town from another city and he was a ballet dancer and I mean they were just because he was lean and and of course muscular and a good-looking guy and and they were just circling him like sharks and he he was like kind of overwhelmed by it and and found it to be um I mean fairly predatory at least that was his experience and so it is um It is a tough culture.
	It's a very creative culture.
	It can be a very funny culture.
	And again, this is not like one big blob of gay culture, right?
	I mean, this is just some things that I've observed.
	I've had many friends who've been gay.
	I was in the theater school.
	But, you know, because I've been working on this stuff with Plato, because Plato was gay and Socrates had a family and so on, right?
	And I don't know.
	It's a challenge, you know?
	Is it the case that there is less concern for the future because you're not a parent, right?
	Most gay people, most gay men are not parents.
	And is it the case that there's less concern for the future, less concern for consequences?
	I mean, I remember Dave Barry many years ago wrote something about I think he was a smoker, a friend of his was a smoker, saying, you know, I can look at my kids' faces and I think, if I keep smoking I may not around to see them graduate from high school and that thought is so stressful I had to go have a cigarette.
	Somebody always makes these jokes.
	Mr. Eyeball Plucker.
	He's a funny guy.
	But is that the case?
	You know, like the criticism of John Maynard Keynes, who was gay, when he was asked, well, how does the government pay off all this accumulated debt?
	What happens in the long run?
	He says, well, in the long run we're all dead.
	Well, it's not really the same if you're a parent.
	It's not really the same perspective.
	And I know someone criticized about that and they, like, hammered for that, which, you know, but these are legitimate questions to ask.
	So, I mean, here's an interesting perspective.
	Not that I'm recommending this, but it's just an interesting perspective that if more If gay sex was harder to come by, obviously, then the spread of AIDS would have been far less, if not virtually non-existent, right?
	Because there was always this talk, oh, you know, the AIDS is going to break out into the heterosexual community.
	And, I mean, it never really did, right?
	Outside of the intravenous drug use and so on, like, it never really did.
	And I think that just tells you, like, it's a kind of hedonistic, live for now,
	world in a lot of ways and again there's tons of exceptions but that's um that's a lot of it so it is uh it is pretty tough uh and and it definitely is tough when you when you get older uh when you get sort of you know quentin crispy so all right garth vader your april fools was awesome got me good was interested in the point you made about no votes for tax negative citizens if you're for against that and why well It's really around this question of conflict of interest.
	So when I, I mean, I'm very aware of conflict of interest, right?
	Like, I mean, if, uh, you know, when I say.
	The Oklahoma surgery center or surgery center of Oklahoma is fantastic.
	I don't get a commission, right?
	I mean, I don't, I'm not trying to promote things that, I mean, I'm very, very aware of conflict of interest.
	And of course it was drilled into me when I was on a board in the business world, the conflict of interest is very important.
	And so conflict of interest, can you vote objectively on welfare if you're dependent on welfare?
	And the answer is, well, no, you can't.
	Now, people could say, well, can you vote objectively if you're paying for welfare?
	It's like, well, you can vote more objectively.
	So, yeah.
	I mean, I don't get to vote in an Apple shareholder meeting if I don't have any Apple shares.
	Right?
	I don't get to vote on a board if I'm not on that board.
	I don't get to vote in a school board if I'm not involved in that school board.
	I just, like, if you're not somehow contributing, then how do you get these votes.
	How do you get to vote?
	Everybody knows, you can't be objective about it, you can't be realistic about it, and your vote is being bought.
	You know, we've got a vote of fraud.
	It's like the whole welfare state is vote of fraud, as far as I'm concerned, because you're paying people to vote for you.
	And if someone comes along and says, well, we've got to change this because, look, we're running out of money.
	Like, it is this bizarre world, right?
	If you understand unfunded liabilities, you understand the national debt, you understand the The fact that a whole bunch of bonds that were sold in the 09 crisis is, you know, like the unfunded pension liability, it's all coming due.
	And nobody talks about it.
	You know, they say, oh, well, Trump is spending is up, spending is up.
	Well, it is up and it shouldn't be, but the majority of American government spending is mandated.
	You can't change it.
	So, nobody's... anybody who's not talking about this, if they're interested in sort of social policy or public policy, anybody who's not sort of saying, yeah, well, but it's, you know, like, should we spend money on this?
	Should we be spending on this?
	Like, but it's all unsustainable, right?
	It's like saying, where should we go for dinner after you've already jumped off the cliff?
	It's like, well, we could talk about it, but the ground's kind of coming up, so maybe we could duck and roll or something.
	So, It would be a step in the right direction.
	But...
	It's not imminent, right?
	Of course, right?
	Because we all know that if you say, well, you have to be tax positive in order to vote, everybody's going to go completely mental.
	And everybody's then going to be like, well, you can't have poor people suffer.
	And poor people are going to suffer.
	And people who are sick are going to suffer.
	And it's like, well, look, I'm like, I'm sorry about all of this.
	I didn't make this damn system.
	And I've been talking about it since I was old enough to shave.
	So the reality is that There's no money.
	I mean, you say you can do whatever you want.
	There's no money.
	There's no money.
	We're so deep in the hole we can't see the sky and you want to spend and you don't want to talk about like it's just crazy and everybody shies away from this topic because it can't be solved in any easy way and so we're in a situation now where some people are gonna have to suffer if we're gonna have a soft landing or everyone's gonna suffer like hell if we have a hard landing but nobody wants to talk about that because now any kind of suffering is unacceptable.
	You just show one crying person and Society falls apart, right?
	Anthony Skinner says, you should do a breakdown on a movie called Bad Times at the El Royale and keep up those goat Minecraft vids.
	Yeah, it would be funny if my daughter and I do play goat simulator occasionally and it's quite a lot of fun.
	Ryan Woodard says, might politicians be better as influencers by way of lobbying the private sector to achieve political ends instead of being lobbied?
	Could this be feasible, plausible, effective institutionally?
	Might politicians be better as influencers by way of lobbying the private sector to achieve political ends?
	You mean lobbying for a company to build a wall?
	Sorry.
	Don't really have that.
	All right.
	Hannah O. says, Steph, any advice for stay-at-home-dadding?
	Ah, it's great.
	It's great.
	It's a thrill.
	And advice?
	Get out of the house, go roam around, get into nature, all of that kind of stuff.
	I think kids in nature go hand in hand, and kids raised in nature have, I think in my opinion, more robust immune systems.
	They are happier.
	Kids raised in nature have Less of this like, eee, you know, a frog stuff, which is kind of hysterical.
	So, yeah, just get them out in nature and all of that and just really enjoy the conversations.
	Never, you know, like I was having a long conversation with my daughter today about shorting stocks and how you can make money when a stock price goes down.
	And, you know, to her credit, she stuck with it for like 20 minutes before she was bored, which was fair enough.
	But she got it, you know, she's explaining it back, like, she's 10, right?
	I mean, never underestimate what your kids can process and understand, and don't talk down to them.
	Like, when they're little, little kids, you know, they like the high voice, and, oh, good job, right?
	But, you know, right, tone it down and just get to adult talk as quickly as possible.
	Like, you know, you hear me talking with my daughter when we do shows together, and it's fine.
	All right.
	Marisha Dark, how brilliant is Trump's sanctuary state gambit?
	I don't agree.
	I think it's terrible.
	I mean, yeah, you can say, well, it got Cher to change her mind, right?
	So everyone says, oh, you know, the illegal immigrants are so good for the economy.
	So Trump says, okay, well, we're just shipped into the sanctuary cities.
	And everyone's like, no, no, no.
	It's like, this is where MAGA has got to?
	This is what Trump supporters are now satisfied with?
	Are you kidding me?
	Guy just handed out what?
	Or his government just handed out another couple of hundred thousand visas for workers to come swarming into the country.
	The border is in tatters.
	There's no wall.
	There's no rejection of birthright citizenship.
	Are you kidding me?
	There's no control over immigration.
	This is the big victory now?
	Is, well, they're pouring into the country, but we're going to use them as political pawns to humiliate the Democrats.
	Really?
	That's what you voted for?
	That's what you sacrificed for?
	That's what you burned relationships for and risked your job for and sent money in for?
	That's... That's it?
	Well, they can stay, but we're going to use them as pawns to make the Democrats look dumb.
	That's... That's... That's it?
	That's it?
	That's sad.
	That's terrible.
	That's not where things should be.
	Now, you could say, well, he's going to wait for a second term and blah blah blah blah blah.
	Voter fraud is going to be rampant in my opinion, the demographic stuffing of the ballot is going to be ever escalating and ever increasing.
	So no, the sanctuary state gambit It's like what Churchill said about Dunkirk, right?
	So when Hitler's Panzer divisions were crushing the French and the German, the British Expeditionary Army and the French Army up against the northwest of France, up against the Channel, and they sent fishing boats over and rowboats over, you know, you saw the movie, right?
	So everyone's like, yay!
	Yay!
	We evacuated our soldiers!
	And Churchill said, wars are not won by successful evacuations.
	I mean it's good, don't get me wrong, it's good that they evacuated, but that's not how you win a war, that's how you just don't immediately lose it disastrously.
	So, no, I don't view that as a victory at all, not compared to what was being promised.
	Now we'll see what Attorney General Barr is able to do with the deep state and whether Obama spied on people, whether the He bought some non-American political standards to spying on political enemies.
	I mean if the indications play out, it seems to be the case that the heads of the alphabet defense and protection agencies and Clinton and Obama knew and cheered and encouraged the spying.
	Using the incredible awesome power of the state to spy on political opponents for the purposes of taking an election.
	That is, in my view, that's treason of the first order.
	Treason of the first order.
	Now, if he's able to do something with that, which he probably won't be able to because it's going to drag on and on and You know, people say, well, if, if, you know, people get arrested who are high up in the Obama administration, there's going to be a civil war.
	I hope not.
	I hope not.
	But, uh, you know, there's that old saying that if there is to be war, let it come in my time.
	So my children may live in peace.
	I'd rather no war at all.
	But, um, and then they should just say, no, we can't enforce the law there.
	They've got too big.
	They've got too powerful.
	So good luck, everyone.
	So no, Sanctuary State Gambit, it's a marketing move.
	It's a branding move.
	It doesn't change the numbers of people pouring into the country, which are going up in some areas.
	No.
	Don't, don't, don't lower your standards to be satisfied by that garbage.
	Oh, I scored brownie points against Cher.
	Yeah, that's gonna save the Republic.
	All right, Geek Chorus says, I've learned so much from you.
	Thank you, sir.
	Thank you.
	Andrew Brill, who was your bet for US President 2020?
	Trump so far.
	Ben S. Did the Enlightenment doom western civilization?
	If Jesus Christ is sovereign, he is not only sovereign on Sunday morning.
	Our kings once bowed to the king of kings and the kingdom prospered.
	Yeah, well, I miss Christianity because UBB didn't take as well as I was hoping it was going to.
	So...
	No, it's not the Enlightenment.
	It's not progress that dooms humanity.
	It's not because, oh, you know, well, you get comforts of civilization and you get soft.
	No, no, it's the state.
	It's the state.
	You know, I'm going over this with fascist, totalitarian, Plato's Republic from Hell.
	Yeah, let's take the children and raise them in communal vats in dragon-taming pits of collectivism and that way nobody knows whose kids are whose and you could end up with brother marrying sister and they won't even know.
	It's a great plan, you lunatic.
	But, you know, like a lot of Plato's work, a lot of Aristotle's work, a lot of, I mean, political philosophy.
	Oh, what's the best form of government?
	What kind of government should we have?
	How should that government be structured?
	How should it deal with this?
	How should it deal... I mean, look at Plato's laws, right?
	His practical goal of how you run a society or a city with its 5,040 citizens and all these rules and... It's all... What kind of government should we have?
	It's the wrong question.
	Why should we have government at all?
	That's the question!
	That's the question!
	That needs to be on the table.
	People tried for 50,000 years to come up with the best institution of slavery, most economically productive and best institution of slavery.
	Funny story, turns out that the best institution of slavery was no slavery.
	And we've been trying for tens of thousands of years to come up with the best system of government.
	It's always a complete freaking disaster.
	So it's time to start thinking outside that box just a little bit, my friends.
	Not what kind of government.
	Why government at all?
	What a disaster.
	So, no.
	There's only a cycle of civilization because we place right at the center of society a squid-like, blood-soaked, tentacle entity of historical disaster that regularly corrupts human beings and turns them into monsters.
	It's not a cycle of history.
	It's because we keep relying on the state On oligarchical, hierarchical, collectivist, coercive, violent institutions to beat humanity, to terrorize humanity, to jail humanity, to coerce humanity into a better place.
	Yeah, try beating a woman into loving you.
	Try stating a society into virtue.
	Never gonna happen.
	Have you ever heard of Halving Hans Hermann Hoppe in your show?
	Yeah, Democracy the God that Failed.
	I thought his argument about aristocracy is interesting, which is basically that aristocracy is better than democracy, because the king wants to leave the kingdom to his son, so he's gonna be more responsible.
	I mean, it's interesting.
	We'd have to talk about parenting, and that probably means that he wouldn't, uh... He's a big fan of spanking, right?
	So, as far as I understand it, so...
	All right, let's see here.
	Well, I guess we got some more.
	Sorry about this.
	Let me just go down a little bit here.
	Do you see a resurgence of the right in response to the left?
	The Democrat Party is really the party close to splitting.
	Oh yeah, but the new crop of Democrats, right, like Kamala Harris, Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, yeah, I mean, they're very much to the left, and whoever comes after them are going to be just straight-up communists, right?
	I mean, it's just leftward drift.
	Every organization not specifically dedicated to the right drifts leftward, and even, I mean, what does the right mean these days?
	What the hell does the right even mean these days?
	Can't control immigration, can't get rid of the welfare state, can't reestablish private property, can't get rid of activist judges.
	Can't get rid of old age pensions, can't get rid of Obamacare.
	I mean, what the hell does it mean?
	Trump was like the last desperate throw of the dice from an increasingly panicked population to slow the rising tide of the red tide of statism.
	There's been some cuts in taxes, which is good.
	Don't get me wrong, that's better, but... What does the right even mean anymore?
	I don't know.
	I mean, I'm not a rightist.
	I'm not a conservative.
	They've been dragged so far to the left!
	I mean, for those who wanted to watch my Why I Was Wrong About Running for Office, just have a look and imagine if somebody gave that speech.
	All right, Ryan Walker says, any advice from your experience on writing new books, novels, and blogs?
	Have many ideas much influenced by you and Jordan Peterson, mentally not knowing where to start?
	One novel idea including both of you.
	I hope it's a gay romance.
	So here's what you need to do.
	I'll give you the 101, because that's how I started.
	So, first of all, just write great stuff.
	And secondly, just find a place to get it out there.
	I mean, for me it happened to be Lou Rockwell's site, which is well worth reading.
	Lou, L-E-W, Lou Rockwell.
	And he, I think, hid my stuff later, but he published my first bunch of articles and that helped drive people to my podcast.
	And you've just got to find some place where people are going to read.
	If there's a conference going on, just phone them up, be persistent, beg them to let you go on stage, even if it's for 15 minutes, and then just work like hell to prepare a fantastic speech.
	If you've got quality, you know, don't hide your light under a bushel.
	Go out there.
	If you have quality in your soul, if you have virtue and beauty and reason in your soul, you owe it to the world to get it out there.
	You owe it to the world.
	Oh, there are no unchosen positive obligations.
	I get that.
	You shouldn't go to jail if you don't.
	You're just kind of a jerk if you don't.
	You know, like if you know how to do the Heimlich maneuver and you don't, you don't go to jail, but you're kind of a jerk if you don't.
	So just, you know, go and shine your light.
	And it's not about you.
	Nobody cares about me, right?
	I mean, you guys don't wake up in the morning and say, well, I hope Steph slept well.
	You know, you like, I assume, when I'm talking to you about things that matter to you.
	Stimulate your thoughts, stimulate your ideas, you know, make you laugh a little, or think a little, or be sad, or moved, or whatever, right?
	So, you take yourself out of the equation.
	The only way that I can do this, this is not an ego, it's not about me, it's an ego.
	People, funny, I do these interviews, and I did check this once a while ago.
	You know, somebody said, well Steph, you just, you keep talking over your guest, you keep interrupting your guest, and it's like the guest spoke for 85% of the time.
	It's kind of funny, right?
	It's not about me.
	It's about, you know, there's you and then there's the truth.
	I'm like the facilitator.
	I'm the matchmaker.
	I only care about whether you like the truth.
	I don't care whether you like me.
	I mean, it's great if you do, and I hope it helps you get to the truth if you like me, but it's not about me.
	It's about you and it's about the truth.
	You know, I mean, if you're a doctor, you want your patient to get better.
	You don't want your... Do you like me?
	Do you like me?
	You must really like me.
	Okay, if you're an actor, I guess people have to like you.
	You don't have to like me.
	I just want you to like the truth.
	I'd rather be a clear pane of glass through which you can see the beautiful vista of the truth, rather than looking at the glass.
	So, just write great stuff.
	Find some place where you can get it out.
	Be persistent.
	Be annoying to people, you know?
	You'd be amazed.
	So many people get so many messages that all you have to do is be persistent.
	Dylan Bear, thoughts on the 19th Amendment.
	Sorry, I've done that before.
	Colin Bowman, ostracism is powerful.
	Leftists do it well.
	Unfair?
	No, it's not unfair.
	Of course ostracism is powerful.
	My god!
	Of course ostracism is powerful.
	That's why I've been talking about it for 15 years.
	Saying to libertarians, ostracize people.
	Ostracize people who want you thrown in jail for following your conscience.
	I know how powerful ostracism is.
	Ostracism produces in the human mind similar symptoms to physical torture.
	And leftists use it, of course, they're very powerful at using it.
	And people who criticize the left won't use it.
	Like, okay, well, okay, then go into a, quote, gun fight with a knife if you want, but you're going to lose, right?
	So yeah, it is powerful.
	MockingMonica says, do you agree with this?
	Men are treated like stray dogs in America.
	Gosh, no.
	That's a terrible thing to say.
	Stray dogs are treated much better than men in America.
	And by this I mean generally white men, but no, stray dogs.
	There's a whole animal shelter not far from where I live that my daughter and I sometimes go to donate money and play with the animals and so on, right?
	And you can't find a male shelter for victims of domestic violence at all, right?
	You know, there was this article, what was it, Slaughter her name is, and she wrote this article about, oh man, you gotta be more into what women do, you gotta be more into what caring and men should hug, and it's like, at what point ever do these people say, You know, women, you've got to stop being so emotional and so neurotic, which they do score higher.
	It's not just me.
	They score higher on neurosis than men.
	And you've got to start being grounded and more rational.
	You've got to stop being triggered and you've got to be more like men and look at things objectively and master your emotions and be more like men and be more rational.
	Maybe climb a goddamn telephone pole to repair something at minus 20 degrees once in a while.
	You've got to get into more dangerous occupations.
	You can't just leave it all to the men.
	It's always like, oh, well, you've got to take the strengths of women and you've got to get the men to conform to all the strengths of women.
	But you never go to the weaknesses of women and say, well, you've got to conform to some of the strengths of men now here.
	Haven't you?
	Maybe stop being so triggered.
	Maybe stop being so emotional.
	Maybe stop being so witchy with a capital B at times.
	Just maybe.
	Maybe you got something to learn from men about emotional self-control and how to defer some of that gratification.
	Maybe stop being so materialistic.
	Maybe look at a mall and see how many stores are there for men and how many stores are there for women.
	And maybe you can learn something from the minimalism of men.
	That you don't need all of this bric-a-brac, white elephants and frou-frou and clam-shaped soaps in plastic that no one can touch.
	Maybe you don't need 1,200 different types of towels.
	Maybe you don't need The scent that sounds like some unicorn from heaven shat all over you.
	Maybe you don't need all of this.
	Maybe you don't need all these shoes.
	Maybe you can be just a little bit more minimalist.
	Maybe you can stop being ornamental.
	You know, this is a big thing that you really see these days.
	Like, it's just this relentless focus on women being ornamental.
	Look, I'm thin.
	I have shopping bags around me and I'm laughing while sitting in a V-shape in an armchair.
	Dressed in clothes that means I've never done any labor in my life.
	You know, maybe you could work at being more practical.
	Maybe you could work at being more interested in things than people.
	Maybe you could Learn from men about some things.
	Maybe you should learn a little bit about stoicism, emotional self-control, and he says as he rants, but it's always about, like, take the weaknesses of men and say the strengths of women and say, ah, women are better, you've got to be like women.
	Never take the weaknesses of women, look at the strengths of men and say, well, you know, women, you've got to step it up a little bit here too.
	Maybe you can be a little bit more useful.
	And a little bit less ornamental.
	And maybe a whole lot less materialistic.
	And a whole lot less buying for the sake of buying.
	Right?
	I mean, this is why politicians love putting money into the hands of women.
	The welfare state, what is it?
	It's a single mother state.
	It's putting money in the hands of women.
	Divorce.
	Alimony.
	Child support.
	What is that?
	It's putting money in the hands of women.
	Hiring women into the teaching profession, hiring women into the government, making companies have huge bloated HR departments because they got to find someplace to put the women.
	They love getting money into the hands of women because women will go spend, spend, spend, spend, spend.
	This doesn't come from my personal life.
	We're very frugal, but women will go spend, spend, spend, right?
	So it drives the bullshit economy, or it drives the stupid economy.
	It drives the, uh, I made some stuff that ripped out of the precious heart of Mother Nature, gets shipped halfway across the planet, ends up gathering dust, never looked at, behind a plant on someone's dresser.
	Like, I guess it was a friend of mine's mom when I was a kid.
	I like ducks!
	She had ducks everywhere, like duck wallpaper, then she had big to little ceramic ducks on the windowsill, and she had duck tea towels, and she had duck apron, and... and it was like... Who gives a duck what's with the ducks?
	Duck off!
	They're wasting nature's scarce and precious resources!
	For what?
	Ceramic ducks!
	They're not even going to give you eggs!
	You can't eat them!
	Let me just get this, if I can find it.
	I'm sure I can.
	It's a great line from Hamlet, where he's railing at Ophelia.
	Where's Ophelia?
	Let me just see here.
	Let me just see here.
	Ah!
	Nicknamed God's Creatures, Hamlet.
	I won't do the whole thing, but it's a really, really good speech.
	And of course, Mel Gibson's actually pretty good at that.
	Ah, yes, here we go.
	Hamlet and Ophelia, right?
	So Hamlet says to Ophelia, this woman he thinks has betrayed him, if thou dost marry, I'll give thee this plague for thy dowry.
	Be thou as chaste as ice, as pure as snow.
	Thou shalt not escape calumny.
	Get thee to a nunnery.
	Go!
	Farewell!
	Or, if thou wilt needs marry, marry a fool, for wise men know well enough what monsters you make of them.
	To a nunnery go, and quickly to!
	Farewell.
	And she says, oh, heavenly powers, restore him, because he's playing mad, right?
	And he says, I've heard of your paintings too well enough.
	God has given you one face, and you make yourself another.
	You jig, you amble, and you lisp, and nickname God's creatures, and make your wantonness your ignorance.
	Go to.
	I'll.
	No more on it.
	It has made me mad.
	I say we will have no more marriages.
	Those that are married already, all but one shall live.
	The rest shall keep as they are.
	To a nunnery go.
	And I'll always love that speech because how often does a man get to have a speech about women's vanities and foibles and frailties, right?
	God has given you one face and you make yourself another.
	Like, what's wrong with the face?
	You gotta have all this makeup.
	You jig, you amble and you lisp, you know, like this hair tossing and all of this, and nickname God's creatures.
	The sentimentality of women, right?
	Some women, right?
	You make your wantonness your ignorance.
	Go to I'll know what it's made me mad.
	It's marry a fool for wise men know well enough what monsters you make of them.
	I just remember when I first... and there was something in Stephen King's The Stand that I read when I was up north about Feminism, it's powerful stuff and you can't criticize any aspects of femininity, right?
	But we need to, right?
	Right, we need to.
	All right.
	Oh, Edwin B. says, "Stefan, my patients "sometimes want to hold my hand and pray "before I put them under for general anesthesia.
	I am an atheist.
	Should I pretend to pray with them at their most vulnerable time?
	Yes, I do believe that you should, in my humble opinion.
	I think their emotional need trumps your particular beliefs at that moment.
	See, you can go along with a religious ritual as long as you know what your own beliefs are.
	It can be polite.
	Like I was at someone's house some time back and they said, we're going to say grace.
	What am I going to do?
	No!
	Sweep the table clear.
	And I was like, fine.
	I'm grateful for the food.
	I'm grateful to the farmers.
	I'm grateful to nature.
	I'm grateful to technology.
	I'm grateful to trucks that deliver it.
	I'm grateful to you for cooking the food.
	I can be grateful for a meal.
	So I would say that you're not going to convert anyone when they're just going under for general.
	So I assume it's a pretty major surgery.
	And you wish them the best, right?
	So what you can say is you will pray with them and you wish them the best.
	And you do, right?
	So if you wish them the best, you can say that in your mind, you can say that in your heart.
	It doesn't have to be that you're begging God.
	Samuel Mellencon says, I'm a white atheist guy dating a Muslim Bengali girl with a Canadian citizenship.
	Should I run?
	Well, I would... I'd have a couple of conversations about where this is going, right?
	Because... Is she gonna... Like, here's the thing.
	So this kind of thing happened Some time ago.
	Gosh, you guys are so much fun to chat with.
	What time is it?
	Sorry, I should go check the chat.
	You guys still having fun?
	I think so.
	Let me just see here.
	But yeah, something kind of happened way back in the day, which was that we kind of just completely gave up on thinking about where dating goes, right?
	So what is dating for?
	Fundamentally, right?
	Dating is for getting married and having kids, right?
	Isn't that what dating is for?
	In the long run, that's really the point of it, right?
	So, just talk about that with someone.
	Then you find out if you just want to have sex with them, or they're hot, or whatever, or they're fun, or they're funny, whatever.
	Find out, you know, okay, so if we have kids, how do you want them raised?
	And if she wants them raised in the Muslim faith and you're an atheist, you're going to have some problems.
	And you kind of want to sort that out sooner rather than later.
	So, yeah, have those conversations for sure.
	And if she says, well, I don't know, I want to raise my children atheist, you say, well, how's that?
	How's that going to play out with the family, right?
	I mean, these are all important questions, right?
	So let's see here.
	Sorry, I don't want to miss anything.
	What are your thoughts on paganism?
	I don't really think about paganism very much, sorry.
	That's from... I got that pronunciation perfectly correct.
	Ammon Harper, being married to a single mother gives you the reality of loneliness.
	Welcome to my hell.
	Soon to begin divorce proceedings.
	Living in a motel room.
	I'm sorry to hear that, man.
	Yeah, it's really tough.
	You know, the single mom stuff is really bad, and the single mother IQ has been calculated in the low 90s, so it's not good.
	Again, there are exceptions, but anyway.
	All right.
	What have we got here?
	Famitu Ma Yong.
	Did I get that right?
	Oh no, I zoomed in, and now I can't find it.
	Okay, there we go.
	I know you oppose all government in principle, but if you could make one small improvement to the change of the American Republic, what would it be?
	To the design of the American Republic?
	Yeah, see, you mean right now or at the beginning?
	If it was right now, yeah, I mean, a small change of the end of the welfare state would is absolutely not.
	It's going to end anyway, right? - How is it?
	We can either soft landing or hard landing.
	Small improvement in the science of the American Republic.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	Harry Brown used to have one that he supported an amendment where no congressman could vote for war unless he had, unless there was a draft and he had a military age son.
	But I would say you could bring a lot of reality, just like no constitutional amendment, no unfunded liabilities, no debts.
	And that would bring the reality, because we're living in this weird world where people can pretend to be virtuous on borrowed money.
	All right, Istak says, you make a lot of sense, Steph always have, thank you.
	Jason Workman says, should we start a libertarian revolution?
	No, just, I mean, everything I've said before about be serious about your beliefs and don't be friends with people who want you thrown in jail for following your conscience.
	Krillin says, who owns the Notre Dame, the Catholic Church, the city of Paris or the country of France?
	Will atheists be forced to rebuild a church?
	Yeah, well, you know, less than 24 hours after the whole fire, this is going to date this cast, but anyway, less than 24 hours after the And the fire started.
	They're now saying, oh, there's no evidence of arson.
	And that's, I mean, come on, that's ridiculous.
	They can't possibly know that at this point.
	And the owner, he said there were eight workers, the guy who was running the construction jobs, there were eight workers, they were all gone by the time the fire started.
	And there is a video of some guy up there after the fire or around that time.
	You can find it online.
	So, I mean, it's, I, I don't believe the official story.
	They haven't released all the documentation about how they came to the conclusion that there was no arson.
	So, I mean, I, I mean, I just assume governments are lying all the time, right?
	So that's just my, it's a really constant place to, to start from.
	And so, Yeah, it's... I mean, it's a ridiculous notion that they could... I mean, let's say some guy started the fire, what's he gonna do?
	He's gonna say, oh, it was an accident, or oops, you know?
	They don't know.
	They don't know, come on.
	They don't know.
	So... It's terrible.
	I mean, it's terrible.
	I mean, I understand why they would be pretty tempted to falsify this if it turns out to be false, which we may also never find out.
	Which is, if it turns out that there was arson, Well, I mean, all the Western, all the European countries these days, I mean, not the Central Eastern, but certainly the Western European countries and the UK, all they're doing is just trying to hold things together at the moment.
	There's no plan for the future, there's no goal that's just like, can I get five more minutes without a revolution.
	That's all they're doing these days, is they're just trying to hold this shaking Re-entry spaceship together for five more minutes.
	That's all.
	That's all they're doing.
	So... Will atheists be forced to rebuild the church?
	The money could be spent worse, in worse ways.
	Justin Wilkins.
	My girlfriend is a Jehovah's Witness and I'm a Christian.
	She wants to be a Christian but doesn't want her family to hate her.
	We've been together for two years and her family hates that we are dating.
	Thoughts on what she should do?
	Well, I mean, is she interested in the future or is she interested in the past?
	If she's interested in the past, then she's going to go back to her family.
	She isn't going to give up you.
	And if she wants to build the future, then the family's making her make that choice.
	You know, I mean, I have one answer to ultimatums.
	Buh-bye!
	In here, or... Okay, bye.
	I don't do ultimatums.
	I don't accept ultimatums.
	I don't...
	respond to ultimatums with anything... I mean, I just don't do ultimatums, and you should never do ultimatums.
	By the time you get to an ultimatum state, you're in such a state of desperation that you just get out.
	So, the other thing, too, is... I mean, are you committed to her?
	If you're not committed to her, then she can end up in the worst situation, which is she ends up with the enmity of her family, but she doesn't get you as a husband, so it may be an issue to do with your commitment, which, you know, you can give or not give, but it just may be...
	Arminius Calgus says, the history videos are easy to share far and wide.
	Yes.
	Yes, yes, yes.
	And, um, I appreciate those.
	You know, it's funny because, um, uh, in, in February when the views just cratered, uh, and, um, you know, it's, it's a little startling.
	I was like, oh, I should put out more videos and so on.
	I'm like, no, I think kind of the opposite is needed at the moment, which is why I've been working so hard on The Truth About Plato.
	And I've got some other things sort of in the works.
	I do need to put out videos that are going to be general interest and more shareable.
	So that's sort of the idea.
	So thank you very much.
	I appreciate that.
	Sorry, I sound like I'm rebooting here, but I'm just trying to figure out whether I because I got to get to a bunch more answers whether I'm doing.
	Okay, John Smith, how much longer are you going to stream?
	I want to ask a question, but I have someone over and can't pay attention.
	Not much longer.
	Penomet Philosophy, hey Steph, do you still have a relationship with Alex Jones?
	I'd love to see you on the show again, or vice versa.
	I like Alex.
	I think he made some judgment errors, obviously.
	And it's interesting, I watched an analysis, I think it was a Quebec lawyer gave of the deposition that was put on Alex regarding the Sandy Hook lawsuits and it was very interesting.
	I just sort of wanted to recommend that.
	I find that stuff kind of fascinating.
	Ben Joyce says, what made you think you could create a successful philosophy show?
	When I use the word philosophy, I can see people's eyes glaze over.
	Yeah, you know, it really does have a pretty bad rap, and I can kind of understand why, because it's been academiced to the point where there's no bad phone.
	It's like, oh, we've got a moral dilemma, let's call a philosopher, right?
	So there's something that I read years and years ago.
	It's funny the little things that stick with you, but Someone said, I would rather talk to someone really passionate about stamp collecting, which I'm not interested in, than someone who was not interested in a topic that I enjoyed.
	And that's a very interesting perspective, right?
	So if you really care about something that comes across right that that you see that in and that that excitement and that that passion about it so I love philosophy I love philosophy to my very bone marrow the tips of my toes and I know how important it is.
	I know the alternative to philosophy is the deaths of millions of, well, billions of people, frankly.
	So it's pretty high stakes and I will not hide my passion for it.
	And if a smart person cares strongly about something to the point where they're willing to talk about things that are risky and take calumny and slander and attacks for all of that, you know, it's going to be interesting to people.
	Kirk, thanks, I did answer the Trump thing.
	Pod found you in 15 and went from self-hating dissociated to a euphoria that had me crying at the beauty of light shining through tree leaves in summer.
	Oh, that is...
	That's very nice of you.
	I will support your work till I die.
	Too much to type.
	Thank you.
	Dude, that's incredibly kind.
	So he found me when 2015 went from self-hating dissociated to a euphoria that had me crying at the beauty of light shining through tree leaves in summer.
	And that's... The world is so beautiful.
	The world is so gorgeous.
	It is so...
	Amazing.
	And individuals that I meet, almost all of them are wonderful.
	So this, you know, somebody the other day was saying, oh your inbox must be interesting.
	My inbox is wonderful.
	My inbox is full of baby pictures and people getting married and, you know, my kids love me more and I've reconciled with my dying father and stuff like this.
	I've gone from this to wonderful things and that's my, my inbox is like Beams and beacons of light.
	So, I appreciate that.
	That's wonderful.
	Thank you.
	Excuse me one sec.
	I had a tiny sneeze.
	All right.
	Charles, thanks for sharing your experience and insight.
	You're right.
	Loneliness is a call to action.
	Thanks for all you do for self-knowledge and beyond.
	Thank you.
	Let's see here.
	Hi Stefan, I was curious what's your email or your contact for events and inquiries?
	It's on the website.
	Also, would you ever consider a discussion or debate on Nick Fuentes' Faith Goldie shows or streams?
	I'm with Jared Taylor.
	I've done shows with those people.
	I'm not doing a lot of interviews these days.
	Interviews have never done particularly well in terms of views in general, so I really do kind of have to focus on the views at the moment.
	Blooddrake says, Stefan I'm 25, make 25k a year.
	I'll wait till you're 150.
	Self-sufficient, decent relationship with my folks, but I'm very lonely.
	Friendzoned by all the girls I'm attracted to.
	Can't believe in myself.
	Jaded.
	What should I do?
	Hmm.
	Do you know why you get friendzoned?
	It's very simple.
	You get friendzoned because you're dishonest.
	You get friendzoned because you lie.
	You get friendzoned because you don't state what you want from the woman right up front.
	Right?
	The friend zone is where dishonest men go.
	Like if, oh, the women are just attracted to jerks, it's like, okay, well, maybe that's true, but those jerks are honest.
	Because they say, I want to go on a date with you.
	I'm attracted to you.
	Let's do it.
	Right?
	Now, the woman can say no, and you honor and respect the fact that she says no, and you don't pester her, and you don't stalk her, and you don't bother her.
	But what happens is that you You kind of float around hoping that she's going to be attracted by your vaguely friendly proximity.
	And that's just not the way that this works.
	This is, you know, like what is this?
	An old Tom Likus thing is like, don't take dating advice from your single mom.
	Oh, you got to treat her with respect.
	And I was like, well, no, that's really not.
	I mean, if she had such a wonderful guy, then why is he gone?
	Right.
	So.
	You have been told that you respect women by not being forward and saying what you want, but that's not respecting women.
	It is not respecting women to falsify yourself for them.
	What, they can't handle the truth?
	Do you think women, young attractive women, do you think that they don't know That there are men around who are really attracted to them and they have no idea?
	This is what nature designed them for, to figure out where they stand in the hierarchy of attractiveness.
	So you're friend-zoned because you're lying to the women, right?
	I mean, you've got to go declare yourself.
	It's high stakes, right?
	You get what you want, or you really don't get what you want, but I'm attracted to you.
	I, you know, I would like to go on a date with you.
	Let's see if we can get something great out of this.
	Wouldn't that be wonderful, right?
	And, you know, make sure you're attracted for the right reasons, not just some whatever particular body part fetish you have, but, you know, a woman's got to have some intelligence, some good humor, some good sense, some good ethics, some whatever, right?
	So, just The way that you respect women is you tell them the truth.
	If you want to go out with a woman, you say, I want to go out with you.
	And if she says, I don't want to go out with you, you say, well, I'm sorry about that, but, you know, thank you for your honesty, right?
	The friend zone is also just keeping, and the women are not being honest because they're not saying, listen, I'm never going to go out with you, but I really need some help moving data this month, so I'm going to have you just float around this sort of beta orbit of a writer.
	So nobody's being honest.
	And dishonesty and falsifying your existence and pretending to be something, oh no, I just, you know, let's just be friends.
	Like, you want to date her, so tell her you want to date her.
	I mean, then you will, but then she could reject me.
	It's like, yeah.
	Good, then you can move on to someone who's not going to reject you.
	You know, it's like in sales.
	There has been... I've been involved in sales situations where it's 500 to 1,000 cold calls to make a sale.
	Are you kidding me?
	The nastiest thing that someone can do in the business world if they're not going to buy from you is string you along because then you call back and you fly out and you do another presentation.
	It's terrible.
	People who say, "Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, never going to happen, click," right?
	Nope.
	Then you're one step closer to the big sale that you're going to get, right?
	And these were like half a million dollar computer systems, so you have to find that right need, that right, you know, oh yeah, that's just come across my desk.
	So the no, no, no, no, no is great.
	It's just one step closer to yes.
	No doesn't define you.
	No does not define you as an individual.
	No doesn't define you as an individual.
	At all.
	If you know the quality of what you provide.
	I'm a great husband.
	I'm a great father.
	I knew that I was going to be these things.
	So all the women who said no to me and it wasn't like, I mean, I don't want to sound like I'm some sort of player, but I went on a lot of dates, but some women said no.
	I mean, what can I say?
	I mean, they made a mistake.
	And I guarantee you there are women out there who are kicking themselves.
	I mean, probably some of them who read me in the media are relieved, right?
	But there are some women who know the truth.
	It's like, yeah, I mean, listen to me chatting away with my daughter and having a blast together and so on.
	And like, who wouldn't want a part of that?
	Who wouldn't be a part of that kind of life, right?
	And yeah, I've occasionally looked up old girlfriends, you know, see how they're doing.
	And anyway, I didn't really get into any details.
	Just stop being dishonest.
	Give women the truth.
	Tell them the truth.
	If you're attracted to a woman, say, I'm attracted to you.
	I want to go on a date.
	You know?
	This friendzone stuff is just a conspiracy of bullshit, basically.
	Stop bullshitting people.
	All right.
	Justin says, I've watched and donated for three years.
	Thank you.
	That's why I'm here.
	It gets better and better as time goes.
	I've doubled my income by selling this instead of that.
	However, first date conversations just got a little less interesting.
	Advice?
	You know, everyone's desperate to tell you the truth.
	Everyone's desperate.
	I mean, there's a reason why people call me up even after like 15 years.
	They call me up and then they just, I want to say, spill their guts.
	But they're, you know, they're honest.
	They answer questions.
	Everybody wants to tell you their story.
	Everybody wants to be honest.
	Everybody wants someone who's interested.
	Everybody has a secret world and a secret life and a secret chamber that they're desperate to fling wide to the world and have the world see.
	Okay, maybe not serial killers, but hopefully you're not dating them, right?
	Just be interested in people and see how you feel when you're chatting with them.
	All right.
	MB says, sorry, just got to do a couple more.
	So if you could hold off, just go to freedominradio.com forward slashinate if you wouldn't mind for that.
	If you could, I would like you to comment your thoughts on my beliefs.
	Part one, I am a critic of foreign intervention and spending, especially on Israel.
	I'm an economic centrist favoring some regulation, especially on monopolies.
	What's, I mean, I've never understood this monopoly thing.
	I really genuinely don't.
	If you're concerned about monopolies, but the government is a monopoly, and it's a violent monopoly.
	I'm concerned about voluntary monopolies, so I'm going to sell my freedoms to a violent monopoly because I'm so scared of monopolies.
	It's like, come on.
	Right?
	That's like thinking there's a bee in your car so you're going to run into the house of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre family to save you from the bee.
	Come on.
	So, no.
	I mean, yeah, foreign intervention, spending, yeah, of course, of course, right?
	Alan says, hey Steph, what are your thoughts of European people's life before Christianity?
	Baltic states have never lost their pagan roots.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, I've had people on the show talk about that.
	I don't know enough about it, so I really can't, I really can't talk about that.
	Arminius Kalgakis, more Jared Taylor and the like please, like Nick Fuentes.
	I will mull it over.
	Formal petition for Stefan Gaming Channel.
	Hit number one for a yes.
	I will work on that.
	Somebody said, message deleted, but thank you for the donation.
	Oh, MB part two, I want to end monopolies and help economic growth, also incentivizing traditional values.
	I'm a nationalist, but I'm an ethnic nationalist for Europeans.
	Stefan, you seem to match the description, extreme individualist.
	I mean, labels, labels.
	I mean, I'm a philosopher.
	I've got an ethical system.
	I mean, extreme individualist.
	I don't know what that means.
	All right.
	Samuel says, the past few months appear to have been one prolonged black pill.
	Am I mistaken to think that?
	Yes, the world is getting darker and lines are being drawn and escalation is occurring because we're gearing up.
	2019 is an election season in Canada.
	It's going on in Alberta at the moment and 2020 is going to be nuts.
	It's going to be nuts.
	Stretch, get lots of rest, stay hydrated.
	It is going to be... I mean it's Ragnarok 2020 in America.
	Things are getting dark.
	I mean, the left is... the mask is slipping, right?
	Like, they've got these real wild anti-Semites in power and these, like, bartenders coming up with 94 trillion dollar plans of insanity and all of that.
	I mean, it's really... they're crumbling, they're falling apart, and it's a little sooner than they want, right?
	The mask is slipping too quickly.
	They don't have the demographics that they need as yet, and they're scaring the living shit out of people.
	out there, right?
	So it is going to be nuts, and it is getting dark.
	I mean, it's not an accident that the suppressions are happening now.
	All right.
	MB, not a fan of your anti-state rants.
	I prefer your philosophical takes and advocates for and defending... Okay, all right.
	Ryan McMullin, best piece of advice for young entrepreneurs, thanks for the great work, that it's not about making money, it's just about making people happy with things that are of value, right?
	And so you are responsible for the goods that you produce and if what you're selling is going to make people's lives better, then damn well stand by it and help people understand that.
	All right, Samuel Heaton.
	On the other hand, what can men really learn from women, in your opinion?
	That's a good question.
	I will mull that over.
	I mean, I know that there's a lot.
	I just, you know, it's a little bit late on the night.
	So let's see here.
	Finish off the last bit.
	And listen, guys, great.
	What is this?
	Two hours?
	That's fantastic.
	Thank you.
	Ah, Canadian latitude.
	What is wrong with Canadians?
	We're almost 152 years old and all we vote for is the same two old parties who are not that much different.
	Why are Canadians scared of real change?
	Is it familiarity or comfortability?
	Seems odd.
	Well, we're not desperate enough yet to risk change, right?
	I mean, changing politics significantly is pretty risky.
	Sean Connery or Moore?
	Ah, Connery.
	Connery's a badass.
	Moore was a pretty boy.
	Can you please talk proprietarianism?
	Can you please give a shout out to my amazing wife Mackenzie?
	Hi Mackenzie!
	You sound amazing to me.
	Thanks for all that you do.
	You've truly changed our lives.
	Properitarianism.
	Eh, maybe.
	Have you talked to Stix666, that Stix Hexenhammer666, about a video lately?
	No, but I like the guy, so probably will.
	Do you believe in free will?
	And if so, how can such be in a universe made up of matter governed by laws of nature?
	Well, I've got a whole free book out there called Essential Philosophy.
	You can get it at essentialphilosophy.com, which gives the whole argument.
	So, Angry Dinosaur, thank you.
	Eamon Harper, thank you.
	Morgan Davis, how do you unwind and relax with this weight on your shoulders?
	Please never shrug.
	Love you, Steph.
	I wouldn't be the man I am without your help, but thank you.
	That's very, very kind.
	And how do I unwind and relax?
	Well, I exercise quite a bit and spending time with my daughter is absolutely wonderful.
	And spending time with my wife is fantastic.
	We have friends and we have great times and great laughs.
	You put forward your best effort and then you relax secure in a good conscience, right?
	I don't want to sit there and say, you know, if things go to hell, I don't want to sit there and say, well, I had this big thing that I knew was important, but I didn't talk about it, right?
	Like the race and IQ stuff, right?
	I mean, it's important.
	Like, I'm sorry that it's the fact that it is.
	I wish it wasn't, but it's really damn important.
	And if I hadn't talked about it, I would have felt very ashamed.
	I would have felt very
	Well I would have felt like a child again like I can't talk about things because there's a bully in the house and I you know I mean it's cost me a lot and it's cost me friendships and it's cost me opportunities and it's cost me exposure and you know there's a price to be paid for this kind of truth but I mean I don't really care about that stuff as much as I care about having a good relationship with my own conscience and a good relationship with the needs of the world and of philosophy so you do your best
	Within the realm of what is... What's a good word for this?
	Sustainable.
	You do your best within the realm of what is sustainable and when you've done your best you can relax and you can unwind because you've done your best.
	If you're, I don't know, let's give an extreme example, like you're struggling to save someone in a stormy sea, and if you go to the very last limits of your endurance and you can't save them, you're sad, but you don't have any regrets.
	Because you're like, well, if I'd have put out like 30 seconds more effort, I would have had cramps and died in the ocean.
	So I did everything I possibly could.
	And that's how you clear your conscience.
	And, you know, I want this to be A marathon, not a sprint, right?
	I mean the long walk through the institutions the left has done has been going on for almost 70 years.
	You know, you can't solve a problem that took 70 years or 150 years if you count Marx or longer.
	You can't solve a problem overnight that's that embedded, that took that long to start, right?
	You can't, if you're 300 pounds overweight, it's going to take you years to lose it safely, I think.
	So you do the best that you can in a sustainable manner.
	And then you can relax, because you say, well, okay, but if I'd have done more, I wouldn't have been able to sustain what I'm doing.
	And I'm not even sure what more would look like for me.
	I've been so far beyond the Overton window in essential truths, I don't know what more would look like for me.
	I'm very comfortable with the choices that I've made, and I'm very comfortable with my conscience.
	So I appreciate that kindness, I really do.
	And with that, I guess, you know, It's been a great chat.
	I could chat with you guys all night, but I do, well, gotta get some sleep.
	So, thanks everyone so much, of course, for all of your wonderfully kind support.
	It is a great, great pleasure to chat with you.
	It is a great honor to have your trust and your faith in this philosophical conversation.
	You know, you know it, you feel it, you feel it, you feel it, you sense it coming.
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