Oct. 27, 2018 - Freedomain Radio - Stefan Molyneux
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4234 Freedomain Radio: An Introduction to Peaceful Parenting - With a Special Co-Host!
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Okay, my daughter Isabella has been wanting to do a show for...
Like 16 years. Okay, I'm not even alive for 16 years.
Yeah, it's been a while, right?
But you wanted to do a show for a while.
Yes, it feels like 16 years.
The show topic has been Daddy's Excellent Singing and Dancing.
No, I'm running away right now.
No, like, so we talk about parenting stuff, right?
And you know the parenting questions come in, and you've had some...
Do you want some help getting back up on the chair?
No. I'm climbing. So, yeah, you've had some interest in doing the parenting stuff.
Yeah. Now, first and foremost, though, I did get a message yesterday from a listener who mentioned something that I found quite interesting.
Quick question. Do you think it's possible that you may have grabbed one of my work tablets to watch Minecraft videos?
I don't know, maybe I think so.
Probably did. Probably did. So he said that I have this playlist which is me interviewing a bunch of experts on climate about climate change and he said at the bottom was a Minecraft video.
And I generally am not much watching Minecraft videos so I'm going to guess that that was you.
Are you telling me that there's no climate change in Minecraft videos?
No change? Like, are you telling me there are no deserts, forests, or arctic things?
Arctic things! I see what you mean, okay.
So you're saying that it was a conscious and appropriate add-on to my climate change series because it rains in Minecraft.
No, but still it rains in Minecraft.
But there aren't seasons in Minecraft, right?
No, there aren't seasons. But there's different regions, like you can do deserts and...
Right, right, okay. Arctics and jungles and stuff.
Well, it has been removed due to its lack of seriously scientific nature.
But there are evil snowmans.
I'm sorry? Evil snowmans, and those live in snow, so that's climate.
I have no idea what to say. Evil snowman, so basically we have horror frozen is our methodology for doing these things.
Yeah, okay, great. So, yeah, so here's a question that a listener has, a bunch of listeners have called in over the years and said, what do I do about my two-year-old who has tantrum?
I've talked about so many of you feels with you.
Okay, why can't I spin the chair?
Because it's better if you face the microphone.
Okay, fine, I feel sad. If you don't mind.
I feel sad now. Otherwise, you know what you'll be doing?
You'll be like, coming in and coming out.
No, dad. But what if I go like this?
What if I keep my head facing the microphone?
Watch this. You know, I didn't really think you'd be this hard to work with.
Oh! Because your hair is going to flick the microphone in a way that mine rarely does.
Yeah, because you don't have any.
Armpit hair. On the microphone, alright.
So no, so people called in and they say, what should we do about my daughter's tantrums?
Yeah. What would you say?
I don't know. Actually, I'm thinking, how would you answer that question?
Because I don't have tantrums. Well, that means it's not me asking.
I know, and I'm just...
I have a client. Oh my gosh.
Dad, look what happened on the thing when you screamed.
It goes up.
No, but I mean, like, how would you answer that?
I'm just thinking, because I mean...
Okay, well, why do you think? I've never met a kid...
Well, I don't really know what tantrums are like, because I don't have them.
Oh, you've seen... We won't get into names.
I know, but I've seen some...
But you've seen more than one kid have a tantrum.
Yeah, but I haven't seen... Even if we don't count me as a kid.
Dad, I don't know what you were as a kid.
No, but you've seen kids have tantrums, right?
So why do you think kids do have tantrums?
I think they have tantrums, because they either want attention, and they want something...
And they're not being raised too well.
I think it's like kind of like I've been paid attention to and like we compromise.
So most parents will basically, what I'm guessing, will just say like they make a decision and that we had an experience with this, no names, but we'll pretty much make the decision and then if the kid has a better argument, right?
Like let's make an example here.
Let's say the kid Right.
And sometimes parents will say no because they're tired or they're short-tempered.
Yeah. There's not a good reason.
And then what they do is they kind of make up a reason afterwards.
And I think kids kind of know that.
Yeah, I think so too. Like when there's a good reason.
Yeah. As opposed to when there's just a reason for no good reason.
A reason that's given that isn't a good reason.
Yeah, I know you. Like you know the difference, right?
Yeah. Not that you've ever, ever experienced that.
A rule without a good reason.
Okay, so Dad, remind me when there was a little, there was a, not a little rock, but there was a rock, this was earlier this year.
There was a rock, it was in summer, I think we were at like a park or something and there was a big rock.
Sorry, I was about to turn back.
Sorry, there was like a big rock.
Sorry. Okay, there's like a big rock, and I'm like, can I climb it?
And you said no, and then I'm like, why?
And you're like, I don't know why.
Oh, that's right. Do you remember that?
Was that when we were downtown?
No, I think that was in Muskoka.
Oh, okay, okay. That one was really good, though.
The one in the water. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, so you said, can I climb the rock?
And I said no, and then you said, you know, like, I've been rock climbing, and I've climbed other rocks, and...
And so I couldn't come up with a good reason why you couldn't climb the rock, right?
Yeah. So then what happened? I climbed the rock.
I killed the rock with my mind ray.
Sounds good. Yeah, you remember that.
I remember that so clearly now, at this point in my life.
Because I think you may have heard the story too many times or something, but...
Maybe, yeah. You do not have mind rays.
I did not disintegrate with my mind ray?
No. No, and then you climbed the rock and you were fine, right?
Yeah. I climbed the rock and I jumped off it and it was like two feet, which was fun.
Well, I mean, it's the same thing with catching the blizzard in Australia.
Like, I was... The one that was, like, three foot long?
Oh, it was huge. That was, like, two feet long.
Well, no, the thing was, the tip of the tail, I found it like this.
Remember, it had, like, the tip of its tail fallen off, so it probably would have been, like, an extra three inches long.
The one you caught? Yeah, the tip of the tail.
I noticed it was kind of, like, a bit of a stubby bit at the end, which normally means it's fallen off.
Right. So it didn't fall off when you were catching it, but in the past it had, right?
No, because I caught it like...
You didn't touch its tail when you caught it.
No. Right. So, like, it was the back legs, then the tail, I caught it right...
I caught it, like, right on the back legs.
Like, imagine a human's waist, I caught it right at the very bottom of its waist.
I was nervous about you catching that thing, because I saw the claws.
I know. And I also saw that it was a lizard so big that it was chasing a bunch of dwarves, and also it ate six ponies.
Dad? What? Get over it.
Where's that from? I have no idea.
Oh, that's from The Hobbit. Oh, yeah.
Remember the smorgue chases the dwarves?
Oh, yeah. He eats six ponies.
I think it's six ponies. Something like that.
No, he eats a couple ponies.
I don't know. I know.
I didn't realize that.
Yeah. No, but that was my...
His weapon was terrifying. Dad, he...
It's a lizard. It's not a dragon.
Sorry. Sorry.
You are... You read about that.
You're a little carried away. So, but I was nervous about that, and you...
I still have a scratch from that thing.
Like, it's faded. Wasn't that the scratch from me trying to stop you from catching it?
No, that was the scratch from the lizard when the lady held its neck really hard.
Because you were showing it to the...
No, yeah, I was showing it. I'm like, guys, you can touch it.
And she's like, can I hold it? And I'm like, no, because, I mean, the obvious reasons might struggle.
And she... I drop it, right?
And then I think she took it out on the lizard because she was mad or something, and she held its neck, like, super hard.
Like, I mean, it would hurt your hand if I didn't try it to you.
And then the lizard, afterwards, the lizard's like, this is what I'm thinking.
He's like, I almost got choked.
No, it was a female. No, it was a female because it had a small dewlap.
Oh, the lizard was a female.
The lizard was a female. No, but it was a female who also did the thing.
No, because it had a small dewlap.
Although, in this family, technically, I'm the one with the small dewlap.
No, you're the one with the big toe up.
Oh, it burns! Oh, it's a burn!
Wait, what'd you do after a burn, boo?
Dab. She's dabbed.
I'm a pro at dabbing. She is a pro at dabbing.
Better than what he did on the livestream.
Better than what I did, although...
She did pretty good, though.
I did pretty well. I did pretty well.
Pretty good, that's not...no.
So, okay, so you wanted to catch the lizard.
I was kind of nervous about it, but I wouldn't say I let you do it, because have I ever stopped you?
Like, I don't physically stop you from doing stuff, right?
No, but I mean, most parents would either physically stop their kid or, like, yell at their kid saying, no, if you catch that, if you touch the lizard or go near it, then you're in big trouble or something like that.
Or, you know, another thing a parent could do is you could just chase the lizard away.
Can you imagine how sad that would be?
I know. Like, you've got this lizard, you've been waiting the whole trip to catch it, and it's right there, and then he just chases it away.
The parent's like, just shoo.
See, now that, I think, is where a tantrum could happen.
I'm not saying you'd have it at nine, but that's where a tantrum could happen.
I would be really mad if you did that.
You would be, right? And I'd be like, Dad, you owe me a lizard.
We're staying here until we find another lizard.
Oof. Could be a while.
I don't care. I'd say, we're coming back tomorrow or extending the trip because I'd be like, I've been waiting this entire trip probably about like 12 days to catch this.
Well, no, I've been waiting longer.
I've been waiting over a month because that's when we heard about it a month before.
Wait, I'm going to help your story here.
I'm going to help your story. I think it was even more than that because you've never, ever in your life had a chance to catch a lizard that was two or three feet long.
All I've seen when I was four was three iguanas, zero, sitting on a fence.
It looked like a family, big, medium, small.
But you wouldn't have catched them. I wouldn't have caught them.
Maybe now I would have. Yeah, so once I caught it, it literally ripped bark off a stick when we put it on his mouth.
The reason I was trying that was because I'm like, maybe if I can get it, I can grab it.
Not by the neck, but lightly by the neck so that I can hold it better.
No, but so I think that that was an example of negotiation.
Yeah. Okay, when did you first get into lizards?
Oh man, I think that was when I first saw How to Train Your Dragon or something.
Which is going to be a couple of years ago, four years ago.
How to Train Your Dragon 1 was probably about four or five years ago.
Well, no, the reason it was that...
No, I think before that, because I just thought they were super cool.
Well, I've always liked mythical creatures and one of those is dragons.
In fact, I'm super good at drawing them.
Yes, you are. So it's been probably four or five years.
Yeah, so... Now, I remember when we were in...
Go ahead.
Okay, but the reason I think I like lizards is because they're basically dragons with Komodo dragons, which are one of the biggest, probably the most fierce type of lizard, is kind of like a dragon, it just needs breath weapon and wings.
Well, no, it just needs breath weapon because otherwise it could be a drake, sort of.
A wingless dragon, right?
A wingless dragon, which is a drake.
So when we were in Belize, you weren't that interested in the dragons that were out back of the...
I was giving a speech out there, right?
The lizards. You said dragons. Sorry, did I say dragons?
Sorry. Yes, you said dragons.
Brain cross. Brain cross.
So you weren't that into it then, but it was sometime after that, and that was five years ago or six years ago.
And so I think that for years you have been wanting to catch a really big lizard.
I remember the biggest one I've caught was before Australia.
It was probably about a little bit bigger with my hand, but it had an extremely long tail.
It was one of the green anoles in Florida.
I think that's what they're called. Green anoles?
Anoles, I think. But something like that.
And they can change brown to green.
And those guys have extremely long tails and super long heads.
So you have been waiting for like half a decade.
Right? To catch a big lizard.
And we had talked about it before and we had said, listen, as long as it's not like your size...
It's fine. Well, as long as it's not too big, right?
Yeah. But this one to me was a lot bigger than I... I thought maybe it would be like this big.
Yeah. But that's about a foot, right?
But this thing was like two foot.
Well, with tail.
With tail, yeah, yeah. Not about, maybe like a foot and a half, but...
Yeah, it was bigger. And also, it had these spikes on it.
It had claws. Yeah, it had really good claws.
It was so cool. It had, I mean, I didn't see much teeth, because, I mean, they're more grindy teeth.
They don't really have teeth.
No. Well, all it did, it has a jaw power, but it doesn't have teeth.
If it had teeth, then it would pretty much be a Komodo dragon.
Yeah, because they don't rip flesh, like a lion or a...
No, but he did pull off a big chunk of bark.
Yes, he did. We got that video too, it was pretty neat.
So, we had already said, and to me this is the really important thing, that's fine, just to scream it off.
So this is a really important thing about how to avoid tantrums.
So the first thing is, you have to have agreements up front.
I always talk about that, right?
We have to have an agreement ahead of time about how things are going to go, and we don't just make up a rule in the moment, right?
Never do that. Because we went there partly so that you could find a big lizard.
Well no, because remember Lauren Southern, so threes have to say that, I have another friend anymore, but Lauren Southern was there earlier and she said she saw three just sitting on the path.
So, oh, the reason I was so much into it is because, so there were these enclosures outdoors with like big holes in the fence, easy to climb, right?
Because it was a zoo, right? For a lizard. It was not a zoo, exactly, but a quail zoo, sort of.
You're right, a zoo. So a lizard had decided to climb into the enclosure.
It was like an enclosure where it was just a fence, sort of, right?
Because it was a flightless bird, so it was fine, right?
And the lizard had freely climbed into a huge enclosure, right?
And I just saw him sitting on a rock with a patch of sun, but it wasn't even near the edge.
And it was like a dangerous bird that was in there, I think.
Yeah, so you'd already seen one, and then we were actually trying to leave.
But we had this deal.
Now the deal was... Yeah, but so we have this deal where you can catch a lizard and we can't change that deal.
So even though, like in keeping the deal, if we have a deal ahead of time, then we really have to stick to it, right?
Yeah. And I think knowing that you can trust the deal ahead of time means that you don't get tense and you don't have to try and win something by getting angry in the moment, right?
Like, even though I had reservations, which means like I was a little uneasy about you catching the lizards, you knew that you were going to be able to do it, right?
Yeah. Because that had been the deal. Well, I mean, it's funny.
I'm like, I'm not scared to catch something that's probably like the size of my arm, I mean.
Sorry. The size of my arm and hand with tail.
Yeah. Right? But I'm like, in Florida, it's like the little guys, the little common guys who are just brown and stuff.
And like, you have a really big head and I don't want to catch you.
I'm like, this guy's head is like the size of one of those lizards.
And I'm like, I'm gonna catch him.
But in Florida, I'm like, no, he gave me a tiny cut.
I'm scared. Well, but this was, I mean, I hate to say once in a lifetime, but certainly, you know, if you've been waiting for five years.
Yeah, if you've been waiting five years, that was an important one to do.
But we had a deal, right?
And so we have this deal also around sugar, right?
Do you want to tell people what our deal is around sugar?
Yeah, no sugar Monday to Friday.
I mean, we can trade out weekends.
My mom's not a huge fan of that, but I mean, like...
Yeah, we can trade them out. Now that I'm like, we started that when I was like seven, six or seven or something.
So when I was younger, it was like more like, I'm like, the reason my mom didn't want to do it when I was younger, she's still keeping that a little bit, I think, because, but when I was younger, I was like six or seven, right?
So I'm like, oh, one more weekend, one more weekend, one more weekend, you know what I mean?
It kind of went off into like...
I tried to avoid it and I tried to make people forget about it.
It's like people who try to pay their debt by borrowing more money.
It doesn't really work. So we have that deal, and what that means is that if you have to deal ahead of time, you don't get into conflict at the time.
And we know that we can have a little sugar.
We have this piece of...
Oh, that 99% chocolate.
I'm telling you guys, unless you're a huge fan of really bitter chocolate, never guess that's terrible.
Well, I mean, the 90% is pretty good because we can have that once.
There's the 78% we can also have.
You should try getting it.
It's really good. Whoever's listening to this.
So we don't have a lot of conflicts over sugar because we have a deal ahead of time.
Yeah. And so coming up with a deal ahead of time and getting your agreement on that deal Is really important.
Yeah, it is. So I think that when there's chaos, like the kid doesn't know whether she's going to get her way or not, then there tends to be this kind of escalation, right?
Like they get upset, they get angry, they try and bully their way or have a tantrum to get their way.
I don't think it's exactly that.
No? I think it's more like bad parenting.
What I mean by that is I think it's more like...
Were they loving when they were younger?
Did they include them in stuff?
You know how the older sibling gets more attention or something?
Just like the little things.
Let's say there are two siblings, right?
So the older sibling gets all the new clothes, and then in some families it's like Passovers.
Wait, I'm sorry. I've heard of families like this.
I'm okay. I'm okay.
Dad. I'm telling you, you suck at fake crying.
So, okay, sorry, you were saying two siblings.
So, like, hand-me-down clothes, right?
Like, that makes the younger sibling pretty mad, and then that can escalate to get mad at the parents.
Right. And also, like, normally in conflicts, like, the parents just yell, right?
And overpower the kids' voices, pretty much.
Right. Right? But that's not how you deal with conflicts.
Dealing with conflicts is more compromising, talking about it and making sure it doesn't happen again, getting an apology from everyone, except for the person who's in the right.
Well, even if the person's in the right, it might change a bit.
Yeah. Usually if there's a conflict, particularly in a family, usually everyone has something to do with it.
Now, it might be 60-40, it might be 70-30, maybe it's 50-50, but usually it's never, well, it's rarely 100-0.
Yeah. If that makes sense.
Rarely. Like, that's almost never.
Now, you said something earlier I was kind of interested in.
You said, sorry, that sounds like I wasn't interested in the other stuff, but you know what I mean.
It's okay. You said, if the parents don't include them, what do you mean by that?
What I mean by include them is, like, let me think.
Like, I mean, well, not really notice them, I mean, sort of.
But that is, like...
Like parents who are just, like, on the tablets all the time or watching TV. Well, yeah, like, think about it.
When they're going to the playground, the parents...
Most parents just sit on their phones or...
Isn't that sad? We talked about that even when you were very little and we would go to playgrounds.
I was like three and then, yeah, that is annoying because whichever parents go in, like my dad, I'm like, I want to get time with my dad, right?
In the playgrounds. Oh, yeah.
But then all the kids just... I forgot about that.
All the kids just glue onto us.
Right. Like all the kids are like, oh, let's go run, let's go play with them, right?
Because there'd be like 10, 20 kids in there.
How many parents? One or two.
Like, maybe me. And I was always in there.
Like, I never stayed there.
Almost once or twice, like, you went out.
No, no, but I mean, like, I never said, we never went to a play center or playground, and I said, I'm going to be on my phone, go play.
Never. Right? I mean, I'm always coming in.
Now, there may be times if I get a message or something important comes up for work or whatever, but for the most part, I'm, like, in there, but the other kids, and it's mostly once during the day, they're just out, right?
Well, no, the kids just gravitate to us.
After a while, I'm like, I'm not trying to...
It's not your fault, kids, but I mean, it's like everyone is just gravitating to us.
So I have this whole thing where it's like, okay, so the first time they ask and I'm like, no, sorry, I want to play with my dad for a bit.
Oh, can we play? They ask, can we play?
Yeah, I'm like, sorry, can we play with my dad for a bit and then we can include you more, right?
Then if they keep trying, then they're going to get progressively more.
More harsh, right? Sometimes.
And then if it's like the sixth or seventh time, I'm going to say, I'm sorry, this is not just you, but I've been trying literally six years to get some time with my dad in a playground.
You have not been trying for six years to get time with your dad in a playground.
What I mean by it is like, it's not been happening that much.
Right, right. So maybe this whole time we've been trying to do it.
We've been trying to do it, pretty much, but all the kids...
I haven't been trying myself, but we've both been trying, but then all the other kids come in and then we feel bad kind of leaving them out.
Oh, we came to play with each other, you and I, not with other kids.
But do you remember how many times...
We're never going to see them again. Hang on, you'll remember this very well.
You'll remember, Isabella, how many times I was very strong With the children who wanted to come play with us.
And I said, children, I'm afraid I can't.
I must say no to you wanting to come and play with us.
You never said that!
What? You never said that!
You didn't let me finish my sentence!
You never said that!
Finish my sentence!
I don't, but God, the speaker thing is like, like...
Hey, don't, don't, Izzy, people are going to try and nap to this.
Oh, sorry. Anyway, I'm just kidding, I'm kidding.
You're being super loud, too.
Me? Very good.
Daddy, my friend! So, let me get back to my pose of being virtuous.
And I would say, I have come here to spend time...
Sleep spell. Sleep spell.
No, I was terrible with that, right?
No, I'm like, Dad, say no.
Why do you say no? And you're like...
Your children want to come and play with us!
I'm like, I don't care! Get help with your own parents!
I can't say no! I just...
Oh! They're so sad!
There's no other kids that...
No parents are playing with them!
I know. And they want to come play with us!
Sometimes it was fun, right?
Yeah, except for the time when they kept...
Sorry. She's spinning on the chair and turning away from the mic, so sorry about the...
It's going to be like an ambulance going back and forth.
It's going to be like... Okay, that was like a super odd noise.
I have not made that before. That was freaky.
At least we have it now recorded forever.
I am scared. No, but I couldn't.
I had such a tough time saying that.
I really... I know that.
You really did.
You probably didn't notice it.
Dad, dad, dad.
You really did.
I said, look, some kid comes up to me with those dewy kitten eyes and wants to come play with us.
What are we going to do? No! I'm sorry your mom is on her phone on a couch or on a bench, but I just couldn't.
Even at the butterfly conservatories, I'm like, hey guys, I just got a monarch on my finger and then all the kids swam up and I'm like...
It was a game.
You and I were doing a contest.
Who can get the most butterflies?
I think I won for this because I put more apple juice on my fingers than you did.
Right. And normally they like me more because I just smell like a flower.
Dad? You smell like sweat in that like 30 degrees heat in there.
Okay, it's a sweaty flower. Dad, there are no sweaty flowers.
I don't know what you're thinking of, but I don't think there are any sweaty flowers that exist.
I think you're right. I think you're right.
Okay, so the inclusion thing means, so like if you, if your kids, I think it's really, really important for kids to know I think it's really, really important for kids to know that their parents enjoy their company.
The reason we would go to a play center or a playground, I'd come in to play because it's fun, right?
But if I say, you go play, I don't want to come in and play, I think the kid's like, well, why doesn't my parent want to play with me?
And if you enjoy each other's company the most, then you really want to compromise because you want to get back to the fun.
But if you don't have a lot of fun together, it's easy to compromise, if that makes sense?
Yeah, I know what you mean. It's less incentive to, right?
Yeah, I know what you mean. All right.
Well, okay, so how did you enjoy our first chat that was recorded?
It was very fun. Yeah?
Yeah, it was like, at the first three seconds, it was super awkward that it got fun.
But if you just remember, you're just talking to a person, right?
I mean, it's not that different from our regular interactions, right?
No, it isn't. Yeah, so I think people will find it helpful.
So, yeah, lessons are have rules ahead of time.
Really enjoy your kids' company.
Make sure that they know that. Include them in what it is that you're doing.
Everything. Negotiate.
Well, yeah, I know sometimes when you...
It's supposed to be you and me day because mom's at work, right?
Yeah, yeah. And you have like an hour or two to do something, right?
And then you have to do something. The occasion.
Then, like, let's say the parents, whoever's watching this, right?
If you, like, it's supposed to be a you and your kid day, and then for some reason you have to, like, work for a while, like an hour or something, right?
You have to just work on a really important letter, for instance, right?
And then what happens is your kids are like, get sad, right?
But then you tell them, you say, listen, I don't know how long it's going to be, or let's say it's going to be one hour, right?
But then what you say to your kids is say, listen, So, this is after it.
You say, I'm sorry, you apologize. I say, sorry, it's an unexpected thing.
And then, sometimes my dad will give me a treat or something, right?
Like, he'll give me a piece of, like, a little piece of chocolate.
Like, what I was talking about earlier, the 85%, or the 90%.
Cocoa, I mean.
Yeah, no, I've definitely had it, but something's come up.
And now, I'm not a doctor, right?
So it's not like someone's gonna die if I don't do something.
But I think something's coming up that's really important.
Some big breaking news or something.
Well, let's say the election, in terms of the election...
Yeah, yeah. Remember that whole day with Judge Kavanaugh?
We had planned for a home day, and you're like, Izzy, we did do a home day, and I'm like, yes, but it wasn't fun.
Yeah, but it was like eight hours, and I'm like, okay, well, at least I was sick, so I didn't want to do a lot of stuff.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I really apologize for that, right?
I was sick. No, I mean, I apologize for all of that, and I do.
If there's stuff that we're supposed to be doing together, and there's some delay, then I'm like, wow, I'm really, really sorry.
It was also annoying, because it was a weekend, and that's when I can have sugar.
Oh, no, it was a Thursday. Oh, it was?
I thought it was a weekend. Oh, yeah, it was Thursday.
I thought it was Saturday. No, something big was happening on Saturday, too.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was supposed to be the next Saturday.
You couldn't even go anywhere and have candy.
But here's the funny thing, too.
I was just thinking about this the other day.
You don't even have that much sugar on the weekends.
I don't. When was the last time you had, like, a bowl of ice cream?
Well, I think that was probably in, like, St.
Louis. I didn't have a bowl of ice cream.
It was actually Friday, but we counted it because it was vacation.
Yeah. Well, actually, not vacation, but it was fun.
Yeah. It sounded like I was really mad, but am I? Well, thanks, everyone.
