Aug. 28, 2017 - Freedomain Radio - Stefan Molyneux
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3805 Black Trump Supporter Assaulted | R.C. Maxwell and Stefan Molyneux
On August 20th at an America First rally in Laguna Beach, California, President Trump supporter R.C. Maxwell was violently assaulted by Alt-Left Antifa counter-protesters. Maxwell - who had his red Make America Great Again hat - believes that he was targeted simply for being a “black conservative.”Article: http://www.nbclosangeles.com/on-air/as-seen-on/3-Arrested-as-Illegal-Immigration-Protesters-Counter-Protest_Los-Angeles-441231193.htmlR.C. Maxwell is the National Coordinator for the American Voice Political Action Committee.American Voice PAC: http://www.americanvoicepac.orgFacebook: http://www.facebook.com/blackseanhannityTwitter: http://www.twitter.com/rcmaxwellgopYour support is essential to Freedomain Radio, which is 100% funded by viewers like you. Please support the show by making a one time donation or signing up for a monthly recurring donation at: http://www.freedomainradio.com/donate
Hi everybody, Stefan Molyneux from Freedom Main Radio here with R.C. Maxwell.
He is the National Coordinator for the American Voice Political Action Committee, which you can check out at AmericanVoicePAC.org.
We'll put the links to that below.
R.C., thanks for taking the time today.
Thanks for having me on. I'm a big fan of the show.
Thank you very much. So, you've got a tale to tell, and I'm not going to get in your way.
Why don't you just say what happened to you recently?
Well, I hope my story is one for a lot of conservatives for these kind of rally-style events.
They're becoming extremely dangerous.
We're vastly outnumbered.
And that's because I really think the mainstream media is emboldening people to hate Trump supporters.
Obviously, everyone has seen the video.
I never wanted to get notoriety for being punched.
But however, you know, I'm completely okay with it, because I think it shows the violence of these counter protesters that always get deemed peaceful by the mainstream media.
Well, and your goal was to engage in a fruitful and productive dialogue, which of course is the essence of civilization.
So give me the sort of blow by blow, so to speak, of how it played out.
Yeah, the blow-by-blow is simple.
On my way to the other side, I was harassed by people who knew who I was, and they kept imploring me, put back on your MAGA hat, put on your MAGA hat.
Obviously, I had it off because I didn't want to be that arrogant and that brash with the other side.
I legitimately wanted to talk to them as a black man who You know, specifically grew up in a lot of the areas in the black community.
So, you know, the blow by blow is simple.
I was quickly encircled by Antifa and these counter protesters.
You know, they yelled racialized attacks, sell out Uncle Tom, you know, words I hear commonly.
And I really just tried to reason with the other side, explain to them what illegal immigration has done to the black community, and this is why I feel the way I do.
And before I could really have any dialogue with the other side, their emotions got the better of them.
And, you know, I was attacked multiple times, the sucker punch, and then obviously I was also pepper sprayed, choked, and tackled.
So I think this is a lesson, hopefully going forward, about the dangers of, you know, playing up the notion that conservatives are racist and Nazis, because clearly I'm not.
Right, right. Well, of course, your political orientation and your race go against a particular narrative that the media wants to push, so you are, in a sense, a double threat.
Now, you couldn't get your message across to the, I don't know, I don't even know what to call them, the brutes, whatever you want to call them, but what is it that you would like...
People to hear, you know, we get a couple hundred thousand or more people who, what is the speech that you wanted to give to the leftists that you really, really want people to hear about the black community, illegal immigration and other issues?
Yeah, the speech I wanted to pretty much give was, you know, a little bit of a more legitimate, truthful narrative about Trump supporters.
You've got to remember, Trump polled about a third of Hispanics, and he also polled more African Americans than the previous two Republican presidential candidates.
So I wanted to explain a little bit why that is.
You know, Trump talking about Chicago and the violence that black families face there is something that doesn't get shown on the media.
So, yeah, you know, the message I was trying to send is, look, you know, people who are Trump supporters aren't xenophobic.
I'm not xenophobic. I speak a little bit of Spanish.
However, that doesn't mean that I don't see the negative consequences of illegal immigration and some of the other Trump agenda items.
So, you know, my goal was really just to kind of, you know, engage in dialogue, break down some of the barriers that's resulting in the increase in political violence that we see.
But I think because specifically I am a double-edged sword to liberals, they don't want to talk to me.
They'd rather just be at a loss for words and then use violence.
So, yeah.
And what is the kind of stuff that you've seen going on in your community regarding the effects of illegal immigration?
I see a problem with gang violence.
You see a problem with schools.
For example, a school in Maxine Waters District, Inglewood, that school district has gotten taken over by the state of California because of its problems.
This is a school district that I once attended and was able to find some value in the education they had to offer.
However, illegal immigration has lots of sociological implications.
You see a city like Inglewood, and they're going through gentrification and all these other sorts of issues, but some of the members of the black community refuse to look at some of the symptoms of that.
You look at Maxine Waters, for example.
She's gerrymandered millions of dollars into that district, but who has seen the benefit?
No one. So these are facts and particularisms that I genuinely like to discuss.
And, you know, this is what I was trying to bring to the forefront of Laguna Beach.
And this is just what I do generally.
You know, I write articles about this kind of stuff.
So I'm really trying to make sure that we can change the problematic narrative coming from the left side about what this new conservative movement is all about.
Right. I mean, to me, the big question, RC, is always, you know, does the left claim, like, they claim to care about minority communities, black communities, and so on.
Do they actually care in terms of, like, the data and the facts and the view on the ground and the trajectory of these communities?
Or is it just something that they say because, you know, I guess a lot of blacks are going to vote Democrat and the illegal immigrants are going to be supported by people who are going to vote Democrat?
Is it just vote harvesting and actually has nothing to do with genuine compassion for a community, which must start with listening to people in the community and with basic facts?
Absolutely. It's definitely vote harvesting.
You can look to the fact that, I mean, right now, the liberal agenda for the black community seems to be, find Colin Kaepernick a job.
Let's take down Confederate monuments, right?
I mean, no one's talking about how Donald Trump has decreased the black unemployment percentage.
No one is talking about school choice and how that can be good for black families in the inner city.
Instead, you see these kind of tokenizing measures.
And I think a lot of black people at this point in America, you know, they need to come to realize this and start asking questions about why does the liberal agenda only suit to tokenize productive things that could be done in the black community as opposed to embettering.
Well, look, I can understand the argument, you know, 50 years ago, maybe 40 years ago, saying, well, you know, blacks historically treated unjustly in America, let's get resources and pour them into the black community, and that's just going to make everything better.
In a kind of amoral way, I can understand that argument.
But man, as the data has poured in about how, you know, illegitimacy is on the rise, educational graduation rates are getting lower, crime is on the rise in many ways, the shootings that go on and on.
I think it's time to reevaluate.
And it's kind of tough to change course when you've had like a half century of thinking one way is going to solve all the problems.
But again, you've got to be nimble when it comes to really caring about people.
Yeah.
And I think this is the fault of our black leaders or not necessarily the black leaders in the community, but people who have been characterized as our leaders.
Ever since the end of civil rights in the 1960s, you have to ask yourself, who has been a black leader really being productive for the black community?
And really, it's really hard to pinpoint anyone.
So, I understand the agitation tactics of Black Panthers were something extremely necessary in the 1960s.
We have to ask ourselves, why does Black Lives Matter still use agitation as a tactic today?
You know, they could be working on creating cultural sensitivity training programs for law enforcement.
They can be, you know, advocating for some hard line, you know, material strategy that could improve the life of the black community.
But instead, you know, they resort to kind of, you know, the same kinds of agitation tactics popularized by Jesse Jackson, which is a problem because it's 2017.
You know, we see elites like Barack Obama, who has, you know, black skin, who has pretty much, you know, not done anything in terms of crafting a message of substantiated value to the black community.
And so I think we have to start looking at our black leaders.
I'd like to see people like Dr. Ben Carson, C.L. Bryant and Raynard Jackson, you know, people who do some of the hard work creating tangible material solutions to black communities problems.
I'd like to see them get a little more popularity and less people like Sean White, who, you know, kind of just makes money on inciting violence and turmoil.
Well, this question of how to help communities is, I mean, there is stuff that needs to come in from the outside, but in my opinion as well, there's stuff that needs to be done from the inside.
And there's been a lot of focus on, let's bring in resources to the outside to help the community.
And I think that's kind of hollowed out a sense of empowerment and choice within the community.
As you say, you know, these various groups, they could be working on restoring the black family.
You know, which used to be stronger than the white family up until the 1950s.
You know, they could be doing a lot of things to really help out within the community and empower people within the community rather than have them sit there and wait for another law to give them more resources.
Yeah, it's really unfortunate that you see kind of the social acceleration of the left-wing agenda and how it really disenfranchises African Americans.
You ask your average black family how they feel about, you know, transposed gender roles, or you ask a black community about how they feel about, you know, removing Confederate statues.
You know, they won't get excited about that.
They aren't inspired by that.
They are inspired by a pro-economic nationalist platform.
They're inspired by true social reforms that make their life better.
But you never see that on the mainstream media.
I'd like to really see what a black mother in Chicago feels about the lack of attention on homicides in that area.
Well, and of course, as you mentioned, and I wanted to pause on it a little bit, the school choice is, to me, essential.
You see the lineups of, you know, not just blacks, but all the people in poor communities.
You see the lineups of them desperate and dying to get into charter schools.
You know, the lottery, the heartbreak.
I mean, these are people who are desperate.
For the sake of gathering votes from the teachers and the teachers unions and getting resources and money and so on, I think it's just so brutal.
Yeah, and it's shocking that the Democrats still placate themselves as the party for minorities, even though minorities stand the most to benefit from school choice, especially in areas like California, where there's an overpopulation issue as a result of, of course, illegal immigration.
You have to ask yourselves, when there's such a push from the left to stifle school choice, to stifle school vouchers, and to demonize Betsy DeVos for trying to bring some of that into the forefront— How is this actually better for the black community?
And I can tell you that it's absolutely not.
And you know, I think the left hates me because I'm doing a good amount to, you know, educate black voters on such.
Let's talk a little bit about the media.
You've obviously had some very powerful criticisms of the race baiting and the escalation and the defense of this kind of violence.
But how have you been received or how has this attack upon you been received?
You know, we've all been around for some of the mainstream media's hysteria over violence against certain black individuals and Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown and so on.
How has the media responded to what happened to you and the cause of it?
Well, I can definitely say that, you know, we're slowly starting to see a little bit more mainstream coverage on the attack that I received in Laguna, but mostly it's just been in right-wing radio.
It's been on local TV news sources because it happened, you know, here locally.
I did get a mention in a Washington Post, gave them some quite, some very staunch quotes.
They actually ended up posting them.
However, CNN has been pretty silent on this fact, and I think that's significant.
CNN ran 24-7, you know, reels of violence in the aftermath of Charlottesville, you know, demonizing conservatives and kind of, you know, characterizing counter-protesters of the alt-left as valorous.
And we've not seen CNN cover my attacks at all, which I think is an important double standard there because...
CNN wants to pretend that they care about black lives so much.
Don Lemon, Simone Sanders, and some of these other folks who would be jumping at the opportunity to show a video of a black man assaulted by a white individual has said nothing about it.
And I think that really points out the fact that advocacy media is what these kind of outlets like CNN and MSNBC are, given the fact that Fox is the only one covering it.
Well, and I think it also helps.
You know, we were told that there's all of this racial animosity and it's nothing, it's all about race and identity and so on.
But given how you've been treated versus if you were a member of Black Lives Matter at a Trump rally, where I can't imagine something like this would happen, but if it did, right, it would be 24-7, wall-to-wall.
It really shows to me that the divisions—I mean, political isn't even quite strong enough a phrase.
You know, the people who want stuff from the government and the people who want to go and work and may—will probably end up contributing to the government, those who are on the receiving end of government power and those who are on the harvesting end of government power, that's the line that I see RC going right down the middle of not just America but in the West as a whole.
And because you're on the I want to work and be productive and let's stop at the handout stuff, you're on the other side of the line.
the line.
It doesn't matter the color of your skin.
I think that's where the real divide is.
And once we start to understand that, we can, I think, really start to cool it on some of the race baiting and recognize that it's a value fight that we're in.
It's a culture fight.
We're in.
It's not a racial fight.
Yeah.
You know, and I think most people in the real world, they realize this.
You know, if you go to some sort of social gathering, you can see an honest discussion about race without some of the kind of race baiting framing that you see in the mainstream media.
So I think the good thing is, if you talk to a good amount of the black community, I think?
You know, I've seen a lot of sensationalism when people, when Donald Trump came into office, you know, people saying he was going to take benefits away.
But majority of the black families that I know, you know, they don't necessarily rely on benefits.
So the thing is, you know, we have a problem with the media blurring the line of truth and reality.
And the unfortunate thing is the black community ends up being the pawn in this show.
So hopefully we see ourselves moving towards an area where we have more legitimate open dialogue about politics.
And I think that Hillary Clinton pulling out a bottle of hot sauce isn't going to be enough for Democrats to keep getting the black vote anymore.
So hopefully our black community will continue to be awoken by some of the issues and hypocrisy within the mainstream media.
Well, that's fantastic. I'm sorry that you had to take a body blow to get this message out.
But, you know, you try and get as much good out of the evil that you suffer.
I really appreciate your time today.
Just wanted to remind people, R.C. Maxwell, the National Coordinator for the American Voice Political Action Committee.
