3555 Want To Be A Millionaire Migrant Slumlord? - Call In Show - January 6th, 2017
Question 1: [1:59] - “Since gun violence is sometimes an accident, why are gun companies hesitating to implement safety measures like RFID tags, GPS tracking, i.e. decommission as many guns in circulation as possible, and replace them with smart guns? Also what makes people to "stick to their guns" so to speak? i.e. refusal to embrace safety by progress, instead to keep things as is, because they like it that way?”Question 2: [26:43] - “I live in Sweden and a year ago my family got a call from the Swedish rescue service and offered what I call a deal with the devil. The deal was for us was to house up to 30 refugees for the most ridiculous sum of money I have ever seen. This was also during a period where we tried to sell our hotel and realized that my family were getting was not what we were hoping for. When you have been given the deal with the devil, will you take it and sacrifice your soul for wealth, or reject it and keep your soul but continue suffering?”Question 3: [1:01:55] - "I am an evil demon, I mean straight white Trump voting man currently living in Chicago. As a student, comedian, entrepreneur and child care worker I've had nearly the full range of experiences the liberal haven has to offer, dealing with the DePaul Milo riot, watching my pro Trump comedian friend get banned from comedy shows and bullied, I've been paid under minimum wage to watch abused children with employers who refuse to do anything to help the kids. My girlfriend's brother and our friend have been mugged just outside where we live, and our college tries to push the social justice agenda frequently. I've had more negative experiences with this city than I can count. The recent torture incident was sickening and I've seen college radicals from all around, but especially young black Chicagoans continue to push white privilege as a cause of the insanity.”“I would like to discuss how to make a difference in these environments both at a cultural or grass roots level and how Trump can help these cities who don't even seem to want his help. I am trying to start a business and continue to debate and speak up whenever I reasonably can, what else can be done?"Freedomain Radio is 100% funded by viewers like you. Please support the show by signing up for a monthly subscription or making a one time donation at: http://www.freedomainradio.com/donate
Have you ever looked in the mirror and said, my life is pretty good, but it would be so much better with more RFID chips implanted under my skin?
Well, if you've ever felt that way, the first caller, well, he's your guy.
Not my guy, but he might be yours.
He wants to know, why can't we just have smart guns where you have an RFID chip in your trigger finger which contacts with the gun, and only you can shoot it.
Let's just say I had a little bit of a pushback against the whole idea from a market standpoint, from a liberty standpoint, and so on.
So that was a great call.
The second caller gave up millions of dollars because of Free Domain Radio.
Yes.
Did I pique your interest?
So he operates a hotel in Sweden, and he was offered millions of dollars a year to take in some migrants.
It was a challenge to make the decision, and we went over all of that in great detail, and it was very, very noble.
What he did, I think you'll be quite surprised at his decision, but certainly ennobled and inspired by it as I was.
The third caller is calling in from Chirac, from the bullet-ridden hellhole known as Chicago these days, and he wanted to talk about the recent Kidnapping and torture of the mentally disabled white man child by the four black adults, the two men and the two women that I talked about recently in a show.
And we did a pretty deep dive into what's going on, what it's like to live there, what it's like to be around this kind of violence.
And I think you'll find it very illuminating.
This is Grim stuff, but we need to gird our loins and look at it directly.
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Alright up we have Alex.
Alex wrote in and said, Since gun violence is sometimes an accident, why are gun companies hesitating to implement safety measures like RFID tags, GPS tracking, i.e.
decommission as many guns in circulation as possible, and replace them with smart guns?
Also, what makes people...
Quote, stick to their guns, so to speak, i.e.
refusal to embrace safety by progress instead of keeping things as is because they like it that way.
That's from Alex.
Oh, hey, Alex, how you doing?
Doing fine, Stefan.
So tell me, how's the current year treating you so far?
Oh, just lovely.
Just lovely.
How about you?
It's alright.
I've been through some things lately here in Germany, so I pretty much decided to make a blank slate, but that's besides the point.
Did you watch the video that I sent you?
Yeah, I did.
I don't understand some of the technology.
My understanding is that you get a chip implant in your trigger finger and that matches with the trigger of the gun and then you can shoot it.
And if the chip is not there, then you can't.
Is that right?
Yeah, basically.
So, my question actually stems from...
Well, I started watching Westworld, you know, they got these kind of...
Basically, also these smart guns where it only works when...
Well, basically, it's got electronics and stuff, and...
Yeah, I remember this...
Sorry, but the chip has to be implanted in your finger, is that right?
Like it has to go under your skin?
Well, that video showed basically a prototype of how that kind of a system could work, you know?
So, yeah.
Well, I mean, I can tell you why I think that people may not be all too keen on that, if you want me to share my thoughts.
Well, as I mentioned, that RFID-type thing is not the only thing that's, like, the issue with the guns, you know?
So, like, I read these statistics of...
Oh, not statistics, more like stories of, like, how kids sneak guns from their parents' cupboards or something and end up shooting people or something.
Or, like, I had this video in my Twitter feed earlier where...
Some drunk teens also got a gun from their parents and one got shot and died and stuff like that.
Yeah, so about 600, like in 2010, firearms injuries, accidental, were caused the deaths of 606 people and 8% of shooting deaths result from shots fired by children under the age of 6.
Yeah, exactly.
That's what I'm talking about.
So let me put it to you this way.
You have to be really, really fucking stupid.
To be in a household where children under the age of six have access to guns that can kill people.
Oh, yeah.
Like, how stupid do you have to be to allow that to happen?
I mean, it's one thing to not completely childproof your house.
It's another thing to have deadly weapons lying around where children can play with them.
Now, I'll tell you this, man.
First of all, if parents are that stupid and dangerous and terrible, There's no way they're going to say, huh, I guess I'm going to get an RFID chip now, aren't I? Because what's a lot simpler than an RFID chip is keeping guns away from six-year-olds.
That's a little simpler than going to get something implanted in your skin.
So if you're trying to reach the people who are so retarded that they leave loaded guns with the safety off around children...
You're not going to solve it with complex technology, because I think a fucking shoelace is too complex a set of technology for idiots like that.
So you just, you can't reach those kinds of people.
Maybe there should be an IQ test for owning a firearm.
I don't know.
But you won't be able to solve it with that.
That's number one.
Number two, hang on, number two is people who like guns.
Maybe I'm generalizing a little bit here, but I think it's fair to say.
The people who like guns...
Usually not huge fans of the government.
Now, RFID chips and biometrics and registration and all this kind of stuff, they're just not that keen on that kind of stuff.
So they're probably not going to want to do it as well.
Now, the other aspect is that...
There's a way of overriding this, right?
I mean, there's a way of overriding this, so you could simply override it.
The other thing, too, is that if somebody really, really wants to use your gun, they'll just force you to put your finger on it, and they'll use your finger to pull the trigger.
While it's attached to you or not, I don't know, but that can certainly happen.
It's the old thing.
It's like, you can't take this briefcase because it's handcuffed to my hand, unless you saw my hand off, in which case you can take the briefcase.
I mean, these things don't really...
Tend to work out that way.
And of course you can just get rid of the fail-safe and sell it on the black market.
And of course the criminals will just not use these things at all.
I will tell you one area though wherein I would like some more significant tracking of weaponry to occur.
See, the American government, as you're probably very well aware, as is the government, so as do the government's, In Europe and other places.
Well, they sell a lot of weaponry around the world.
Now, I, for one, would really, really like it if this weaponry had some sort of tracking chip in it so people could figure out where the hell it ended up.
It probably wouldn't work.
It probably could be disabled or bypassed or something like that.
But in my fantasy world, if I slip into my central planning alternative universe fantasy world, I would love it.
Love it to death.
If every piece of weaponry, every bullet, every piece of shrapnel encased in shells, every tank, everything, everything, every jeep, everything that could conceivably be used in warfare that was sold by...
Western governments, or any governments for that matter, I would really, really love for that stuff to be very, very well tracked, because I would think it would be really shocking how many weapons used against Western powers are actually sold in the arms dealership from hell by Western powers.
How many Americans are hearing the whistle of bombs made in America, or hearing the wing of of bullets made in America.
So I would think that I'm a little less concerned, although it's pretty tragic when children shoot people because idiots leave guns around.
However, I'm a little more concerned about the sales of weaponry overseas.
That's where I'd be a little bit more comfortable with RFID chips and GPS trackers and activated by whatever.
You know, I mean, you have to have a penis cast.
You've got to get a boner and stick it in the mortar before you shoot it.
I don't know.
Mortar shooter boner fucking 101.
I I have no idea, but that's where I think that this kind of technology could be more productively employed, but of course it won't be.
But yeah, like, shouldn't half of the responsibility go to the gun manufacturers or the dealerships?
So, like, I just read here that 40— Wait, wait, hang on, hang on.
Why, why?
I mean, they sell these things with safeties.
You don't have to load them, right?
If there's no ammo in the gun, I guess you could hit someone with it, but the same thing could be true of a table lamp.
If there's no ammo in it and or the safety is on, well, you really can't do much damage with it now, can you?
So if people load the gun and turn the safety off and leave it around children, I don't see how the manufacturers are responsible for that.
Still, it's a possibility that it can be basically averted.
Come on!
Have you ever used a power drill?
Let's say you leave the power drill by your telephone.
The phone rings and you pick up the power drill and drill through your own head.
Hello!
Hello!
Oh no!
It's somehow the power drill's fault!
The company that makes the power drill because you...
You decided to drill yourself into becoming a Democrat because you couldn't figure out which was the phone.
Like, take for example cars.
You've got some kind of a seatbelt flow.
You've got 8.3 million vehicles getting recommissioned.
Like...
Why is nothing done on the same scale with guns?
Do you really think that more litigation is the answer?
Oh, not exactly litigation, but...
No, because, I mean, why do you hate poor people so much?
I don't understand.
I mean, you understand that when you hold manufacturers liable for absolute idiots using their products in unintended ways, not only do you have to buy a ladder that looks like it has half the fucking Library of Congress printed all over it, Do not put on ice.
Do not put upside down.
Do not do ballet on the top shelf.
This top shelf is not a shelf.
It's just a flimsy piece of metal.
Do not stand on it.
Do not place over the edge of a volcano.
Do not operate on a UFO. Do not operate on the wing of a plane.
Because every single stupid person has done stupid things and sued people.
So every time you say the manufacturer should be held responsible, you massively drive up the price of whatever it is they're manufacturing because they've got to cover all their legal bills.
And so when you drive the price of guns up, they become less available to law-abiding, peaceful citizens who are poor.
Now, in general, I think it's crime that produces poverty, not poverty that produces crime because one of the poorest areas in the United States is the Appalachian Mountains populated by a lot of white people and Really not much crime there at all.
But when you are poor, you kind of probably want to have some method of defense, whether it's iron bars in the window or a gun, because you live in a shitty neighborhood.
Why?
Because you're poor.
And you have to go where the property values are lower because...
You're willing to swallow terrible education for your children because that's the way things work.
So if you want to hold the gun manufacturers responsible, you may save a couple of lives of idiots, but you're going to cost a lot of lives of poor people who otherwise would have been able to afford buying a gun but can't because you want to protect the world from idiots and you simply can't.
Nothing can be made foolproof because fools are so inventive.
Wow, I didn't really think about that one.
Well, speaking about tracking or GPS tracking, why exactly are people so reluctant to apply any kind of tracking for any kind of things, you know?
People say, oh, I didn't want anybody to see what I'm doing or whatever.
To give an example, you might have actually heard of this one, I think.
Back in the 90s, Wait, wait, no, hang on.
What are you talking about?
People don't want to be tracked by who?
Who do they not want to be tracked by?
I mean, in general, like tracking of items, you know, like expensive items or whatever.
No, I don't know what you're talking about.
Please help me.
I was about to give an example, you know.
So back in the 90s, when Intel released the Pentium 3 processor, They had some sort of unique tracking information for it, so whatever happens with it, you can track it down, like where it is.
But that was used to target computers with malicious ads or whatever.
Since then, such a thing was never implemented.
So, I am working in a PC parts warehouse.
You know, it's like we got sometimes.
Alright, you have 30 seconds to get to the point, because I still don't know what we're talking about, and I've got to keep this show moving, brother.
Please, boil it down to the essence and deliver to me something I can eat.
Yeah, like, sometimes tracking would...
Mitigate some of the losses, you know, if something gets lost or whatever.
But people are quite reluctant to implement it, like the process, for example.
Okay, do you mean that people don't buy like Tile or other places where you can put a little tracker on your wallet or your cell phone or your keys or something?
Because I think they do a fairly good business for people.
GPSs, of course, you know, in cars or on phones are used continuously.
The idea that people don't like being tracked to me is kind of ridiculous.
I mean, you're tracked everywhere you go online.
Netflix knows everything you watch.
Hulu knows everything you watch.
Amazon knows everything you've ordered.
I mean, you used to just be able to go into a library and take out a damn book.
You know, there was no central repository.
But now everything that you do online is tracked.
And every time you have a cell phone, like John McAfee, the guy who is a security expert, founded McAfee Antivirus and has come out against the idea that Russia did any kind of hacking.
He uses an old flip phone because it's the one thing that can't be hacked.
So the idea that people don't like to be tracked, I mean, everything you do online is tracked.
And, you know, there's even, you know, like Amazon Echo is – If you have these devices like Cortana or Siri, I think, or Amazon Echo or all of these things where you can just say, you know, Amazon Echo, tell me what the last score was of a cricket game in Australia.
Well, it's always listening to you.
And it has to send some of what you say to a central server, as far as I understand it, because that's where they do their best voice recognition.
So if you buy this stuff and you set it up to, not so it's click to activate or touch to activate, but you have to, it's continually recording everything you say in your house.
You know, I mean, I guess if the porn actress asks for, on the movie you're watching, asks for the score of a cricket game in Australia, I guess you're going to get that along with your hanging chad bondage or whatever's going on.
And so people are constantly, I mean, in fact, there's a murder investigation, I think it's in the States, where the police are asking Amazon to hand over everything that might have been said around this Amazon Echo device because they think that a person who died in the house that they may have planned, that other people may have planned.
So...
It's everywhere.
Everything you do.
Everything you do.
Look at Mark Zuckerberg.
You see a picture of him.
He's taped over the webcam stuff on his notebook and taped over the mic input because that stuff can be activated remotely.
I think that people...
People don't seem to mind being tracked at all.
They love all of the free stuff they get by allowing themselves to be tracked.
And all of the convenience of allowing yourself to be tracked.
I mean, in your GPS, it keeps a history of where you've been.
And if you turn on that history, then it's kept there forever.
And, you know, if someone steals your car and they turn on your GPS and they push home, well, now they know where you live as well.
So people seem to be very comfortable being tracked.
And, I mean, there are a few people who freak out about it from time to time, I'm sure.
And privacy is something that seems to have been largely thrown aside in the quest for, you know, the infinite oasis of convenience in the desert of We're Mortal.
So I think that people are quite...
I mean, even the, like you buy a car and you get these on-call services where if you need help, you know, I lost my keys down a well.
You know, they'll know where your car is, they can pinpoint it, they can unlock it remotely.
And I mean, there's a lot of convenience.
I mean, I'm not saying what's right or wrong.
These are all trade-offs.
In a free market, it would be a much simpler thing to do.
But yeah, people are being tracked all the time.
If you've got any kind of digital presence, you're being tracked all the time.
And people, I mean, I don't think they genuinely know how much information is out there about them.
And I think they just kind of blank that out for the convenience.
Yeah, so basically where this stems from, I've actually spoken to some American gun owners.
It's like, yeah, they're on board with the RFID type thing, but when I mentioned the GPS tracking, they're like, oh no, I don't want to be tracked.
It's like, I don't get it.
Like, why do sometimes, like, law-abiding citizens are afraid of being tracked?
Like, it's basically for their own good.
Oh, no.
Hang on.
Hang on.
No, no, no, no.
You can't just say stuff like that and expect me to just go, okay.
What are you talking about?
Are you saying that law-abiding citizens should be tracked for their own good by the government?
Not by the government, per se.
It's like...
What do you mean, per se?
Per se means, like, I don't know what that means, you know?
Would you like some water?
Not per se!
Well, I don't know what the fuck you want anymore.
Do you want a handful of water?
Do you want water sprayed in your face?
Do you want a cup with no water?
Why, uh...
Yeah.
No, but...
You know, and gun owners don't want central registries of who has guns because they consider that to be a giant setup for the government that's going to come and take their guns.
So, I mean, this is one of the reasons they resist that stuff.
But no, this idea that, I don't know, why do you care if you have nothing to hide?
First of all, there's no such thing as a law-abiding citizen.
People really, really need to understand this.
There is no such thing as a law-abiding citizen.
Let me ask you this, my friend.
Do you know all the laws in your country?
Absolutely not.
Of course.
Especially since I've been living here like one and a half year and I'm planning to move on soon.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So you don't know all the laws in your country.
You don't know all the regulations in your country.
You don't know all the tax laws in your country.
It's impossible for any human being to be a law-abiding citizen.
The law has become so complex, so top-heavy, so bureaucratic, so stuffed full of polysyllabic, citizen-ensnaring, life-choking bullshit that there is no such thing as a law-abiding citizen.
I mean, I think it's Tom Woods who wrote something that said that basically the average American commits three felonies every day and doesn't even know it.
Because the common law is pretty simple.
Common law said don't initiate force and keep your word.
Okay, I can handle that.
If I've kept my word, if I've kept my contracts and I haven't initiated force against anyone...
I'm a law-abiding citizen.
But the idea is like, well, if you're a law-abiding citizen, if you're on the right side of the law, what have you got to hide?
Well, the reality is nobody's on the right side of the law.
Nobody is on the right.
Someone just about everywhere could be gotten for something somehow.
So the idea that, well, you know, you've got nothing to hide because you're a law-abiding citizen.
No.
I comply with all the rules in the Bible.
It's like, no, you don't.
Some of them are contradictory and it's impossible anyway.
So, no, there's no such thing as a law-abiding citizen and this idea that you're safe if you're tracked because, don't worry, you're totally on the right side of six billion contradictory laws.
No, no thank you.
I don't believe that for a moment.
So you mean to say that that kind of thing could never be used for good purposes?
Well, I mean, if it's the government, then no, it's most likely not going to be used for good purposes.
So let me finish my thought.
So if that thing was enacted and if it would have been exploited, so word would spread.
So people would work against it.
But still, if implemented correctly...
Wait, what do you mean implemented correctly?
What does that mean?
You mean if the government implemented tracking of citizens correctly?
What do you mean?
You mean you want to give them that power and just cross your fingers and hope they use it well?
How about you just don't give them that power and then you don't have to worry about it?
Oh yeah, okay, sure.
I'm going to give some guy a random gun and hope that he uses it for good.
It's like, why don't you just not give him a gun and then you don't have to track him and worry about whether he's using it for good.
Just The government shouldn't have the power, of course, to track people.
Governments should be, if they're going to be anything, they should be completely passive and just sit there and wait for someone to come along with a criminal complaint.
And then they should leap into action and deal proactively with someone who's violated the non-aggression principle, who's initiated force, or who's broken their contract.
The government should just sit around picking their noses and playing Tetris until someone comes along and says, dude, someone did something wrong.
They leap into action, they deal with that, and then they go back to finish their levels.
But of course, that's not what governments do.
If you want to give power to a government, you know what's going to happen.
You give power to a government, you're not going to be in control.
Yeah, you're not going to be in control.
And you say, well, we want the government to do X. Well, then the government starts saying, we're going to do X. And then everyone who's affected by X starts to really get involved.
And they start to lobby.
And they start to change things.
And they start to get things their way.
And it's passed way beyond your control.
You will never, ever, ever be in charge of how a government implements your particular vision of what you want.
Let's have universal basic income.
Okay.
You're going to give the government that power and then all the special interest groups, all the powerful people who aren't you and who aren't me, they're going to get in there and they're going to make the government do what they want to do.
And then the media is going to twist it and portray it in one way and twist it another way.
And then they're going to appeal to women's sentimentality.
And then by the time it actually rolls out, it's got nothing to do with anything you ever envisioned, but it's too late to take back.
No take backsies, no mulligans when it comes to state power.
They get it, and you're out there with a 9-iron raised high in a lightning sky.
Yeah, sure.
I mean, the government is supposed to protect its data.
As is Yahoo!
Yahoo!
You've got all the data you want!
Because they just apparently have...
I think they have that kind of security, which is, you know, like in airports, they have those little ribbons that just sort of hang there between...
You can just unclip them and walk through if you want.
I mean, that seems to be how it works there.
They can't keep people out of the Defense Department.
They can't keep people out of the State Department.
I mean, it's ridiculous, right?
So...
You're going to hand over all this power.
You're never going to have any control about how it gets implemented and the way it comes out.
I'm sure there are people who were interested in Obamacare to begin with and said, yeah, sure.
If we make everyone buy insurance, it's going to bring down the insurance price for everyone and that sounds great and we really shouldn't deny people for pre-existing conditions and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
But then by the time this Frankenstein mess lurches up from the electrical table and eats the good doctor, I mean it's nothing to do with anything that anyone envisioned because it's been so mutilated and mashed up by all the special interests which we have no control over that it's unrecognizable.
And I just really want people to remember that.
You may have some idea about how you want the government to implement things.
That's never, ever, ever how it's going to go.
And what the government finally implements is going to have almost nothing to do with what you wanted.
And it's almost always going to be at your expense.
All right, I'm going to move on to the next caller.
But thank you so much for the call.
I appreciate it.
And please, if you have guns, you know, I'm not even going to say it.
It's too ridiculous.
Nobody who does that listens to this.
Alright, up next we have David.
David wrote in and said, I live in Sweden, and a year ago my family got a call from the Swedish Rescue Service and offered us what I call a deal with the devil.
The deal was for us to house up to 30 refugees for the most ridiculous sum of money I have ever seen.
This was also during a period where we tried to sell our hotel and realized that my family were getting not the kind of deal that we were hoping for.
When you have been given the deal with the devil, will you take it and sacrifice your soul for wealth or reject it and keep your soul but continue suffering?
That's from David.
Hello, David.
How you doing?
Hello, Stefan.
How's it going?
Good.
I know you didn't mean seen.
I just, I love the image that they roll up with a wheelbarrow full of gold.
The 30 pieces of, you know, like, here, hold these ingots.
Take the migrants and the ingots.
Right?
Well, yeah.
So, did you mind giving me some sense?
Are we talking six figures, seven figures?
I mean, in U.S. dollars, roughly, what were you being offered?
Oh, three times the price.
Oh, of the hotel itself?
Yes.
All right.
So we're talking millions here, right?
Yeah, we're talking millions.
Millions of dollars to house up to 30 refugees.
And for how long, did they say?
Well, they said it like this.
So...
During the autumn of 2015, 160,000 migrants poured into Sweden.
And before that even occurred, there was a housing crisis.
And this made the housing crisis even worse.
So the government was desperate to find temporary housing for all these migrants coming in.
So what they did was that they looked at the hotel business and saw that they had the capacity to house all of these people coming in, at least temporarily.
So that's when the Swedish Rescue Service decided to contact among my family, because we are hotel owners, and offered us this deal.
So what they offered was $350 per night per child.
Child?
Were they children?
No.
Well, they said this.
Are they the kind of children who shave the backs of their knuckles and sing Basso Profundo in the local choir?
This is what they said.
Syrians were not even part of the deal.
They offered, they only had Afghani people between the age of 13 and 26, whereas about 70% of them were boys.
So Afghani teenage boys, basically, and up to 30 of them.
Where they said $350 per night per child.
And they defined them as children, because...
Well, because that sounds nicer, I guess.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Okay, so $350, right?
Yeah.
So, hang on, hang on, hang on.
I've got to get this one...
Sort it out in my head.
Oops, no, I don't want to turn on sticky keys.
Thank you very much.
Okay, so 350 times 365.
So you're getting 127,750 per child times 30.
Yeah.
3.832 million and $500 per year.
So close to $4 million per year.
Per year.
Did you have to supply them with iPad Pros or MacBook Pros in order for that?
The quality of the room didn't even matter.
That's why they offered so high, because they offered this price for basically all hotels, no matter their value.
Okay, so in some municipalities, they offered even double the price, so $700 per child per night.
Well, and this, of course, shows you how desperate the whole program is, right?
Yeah, because you can't live in Sweden without proper housing.
I mean, good luck setting up a tent during midwinter.
You know, that's not going to happen.
You know, time was running short.
It was autumn.
It was November or whatever.
And winter was coming, right?
So they were really, really desperate and trying to find...
Where is Sweden getting the money for this?
Are they just borrowing like crazy?
I mean, is this all just one big LARPing as charity while you're actually just selling off the next generation?
I mean, where is Sweden getting the money for this kind of crap?
At the moment, the taxes haven't been felt as strongly.
They haven't raised taxes to pay for this, right?
Not from what I've noticed.
Okay, so hang on just a sec.
So I'm sorry to ask you a question and then ask you another one.
So let's just say we'll stay at 350.
How many migrants you said had come in?
120,000?
During 2015, there was 160,000.
All right, so...
Now, everyone didn't get a hotel to live in, a temporary hotel.
Some did get proper...
But they had to find it from someone, somewhere, right?
Yeah.
I mean, they didn't come in with a lot of money to pay for stuff, right?
Sure, but the state also has a lot of state-run hotels, for example, that were forced to house them in some cases.
So, sorry, it was how many again?
160,000 migrants.
Okay, so that's...
$58 million a day.
Like, to house.
And this is...
Is what you offered, did that include meals?
Well, they gave the responsibility of cooking their meal and maybe providing a little bit of entertainment while they're there.
And that was included in the $350?
It was included.
That was a responsibility.
Yeah, so we're talking over $21 billion a year.
Yeah.
And currently it is financed mostly through taking debt because the debt in Sweden was relatively low compared to other European nations.
It was at around, you know, 40% of the GDP. Well, they fixed that now because let me ask you this, David.
What could be a better potential plan than inviting huge numbers of low-skilled, probably low-IQ people into your country, housing them in unsustainable ways, And then running out of money because you took on too much debt.
That's just basically, I just pulled the pin out of the grenade and I'm rolling it a little ways down the future.
Well, it's what happens in these strange situations, but desperate times.
A lot of it has to do, I think...
No, it's not what happens.
It's what happens when women vote sentimentally.
I don't know the exact numbers in Sweden, but everything that I've looked at, it's the women who are voting for taking the migrants in.
Sure, but also there's the human rights argument that we need to help people because it's a human right to accept them.
It's also a very strong argument in Sweden that convinces a lot of people, especially when they're Syrians, to help them.
No, you don't help people by putting them into an utterly unsustainable situation.
You don't help people by bringing them into a culture that's foreign, into a language that's foreign, into a religion that's foreign, into a culture that's foreign, into a place where they won't be able to get jobs, where they won't be able to settle down and have normal lives, where there aren't enough women for them to date.
I mean, you don't help people.
You help them by stopping bombing their home countries.
You help them by offering, if you want, private charity can offer to resettle people in other Middle Eastern countries where they've got compatible cultures and languages and religions and climates.
It doesn't help people at all.
It doesn't help people at all.
All you're doing is satisfying.
It's virtue signaling.
People just want to feel like they're doing something good and something right.
But it's nothing to do with actually helping them.
And how is creating this kind of massive, unfunded liability?
There's no money to pay for this.
So how is it helping people who are living in Sweden to give them massive debt, massive unfunded liabilities, massive potential cultural incompatibilities, massive increases in crime?
How is that helping people?
The Swedes, just out of curiosity.
You know, the people who actually lived there and paid the taxes to build up this whole damn system.
Well, that's why I call it the deal with the devil, because you accept all this fast wealth coming directly from taxes or from the state at the expense of the locals.
So, you know...
I want to focus on how it affects, you know, not just the hotels, but a community as a whole, especially on how businesses are affected.
And that's something that's not been talked about a whole lot.
And that is where I have a lot of insights.
So, in my region where we have our hotel, it's a tourist region, tourist attraction.
Well, not for long, but okay.
Not for long, yeah, sure.
And what happens is that when you take in refugees into a hotel, they can't house for tourists and customers at the same time.
You have to choose between being a refugee home or a hotel.
You can't have both at the same time.
Are you saying that there aren't a lot of people who want to shack up next to a couple of dozen migrants?
If you do, then they'll be very heavily unsatisfied.
I'm sorry, how in Sweden do you say cultural enrichment?
Because that doesn't seem like cultural enrichment to me.
Stop with the memes, okay?
It's too much.
Memes, that's all we've got.
If we stop with the memes, I hesitate to think what the next weapon's going to be, but it ain't going to be something you type on the internet.
But go on.
Yeah, I understand.
It's not good in cultural enrichment if they even have a culture when they come here, because they come pretty empty-handed.
They have a culture, though.
But they come empty-handed.
It's a culture of conquest, but go on.
All right, fine.
Now, in a tourist region, you heavily depend upon customer service.
You depend upon a shop, that you're providing some services that people are like and They want to go there repeatedly.
If German tourists come one year, they want to come another year.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
I hate to interrupt, David.
We have a very smart audience.
You don't need to go over Business 101.
Yes, people want to come and visit tourist areas and they want good service so that they'll come back.
Okay, let's keep going.
So what happened to the hotels that decided to keep refugee homes is that The number of customers, the number of tourists started to decline in some areas and that puts, that gives the shop owners and a lot of people who own stores lower revenue and in some cases it also increases their taxes.
Well sure, so what happens is if you decide not to take refugees but your neighbor does, you might as well end up taking refugees because you're not getting any tourists.
Yeah.
So we got this offer.
The amount of money, you know, we really fought over this and wondered, maybe we should take them in.
But because I listened to your show back then, I brought up and influenced my parents.
And it brought up some really important points like they are not even serious.
They're coming from a completely different country.
And we finally decided not to take in any refugees.
And, you know, we live in a village of 300 people.
300 people!
Taking in 30 Afghan boys would be a population increase of 10%.
Weren't there some girls?
I thought you said some of them were girls as well.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But, you know, I'm generalizing.
Yeah, okay.
But, you know, there's nothing here for them.
There's no high school nearby.
There's no park.
There is nothing for them to do during the day.
So people were really, really concerned that if we were to take them in, that they would cause a lot, a lot of trouble, increase crime, which is incredibly low in this countryside.
So we did actually get threat calls after rumors had passed that we received this deal.
We received two threat calls that said, if you do this deal, you're no longer welcome in the village.
You're no longer welcome in the town.
Well, and that's one of the nicer responses.
That's ostracism, which is perfectly peaceful.
I mean, I've read reports of people who just set fire to the hotels or set fire to whatever the schools where the migrants are going to be housed.
The rumor spread to the insurance companies and they gave us a call quite quickly and said that if you do this deal, you know, we're going to immediately, you know, withdraw your insurance because...
And that's so funny, you know, and it's so tragic that there are all these facts around that the propaganda merchants simply won't recognize.
Yeah.
You know, if having migrants come to your country is such a wonderful and enriching experience, then, you know, they should have said, you know what?
Migrants are wonderful.
We're going to be reducing your premiums because, you know, they're peaceful and they're productive and they're going to help out and they're going to maintain the property and they're going to do things nicely.
And it's basically everything's going to turn into a well-tended bonsai Japanese garden of infinite perfection.
But no, I mean, all of these cues are out there.
The insurance company is like, whoa, we can insure you if you have migrants.
Because diversity is our strength.
You know, in 2013, that was when we bought our first hotel ever.
We had zero experience in the business.
Oh man, I just wanted to say...
Bad luck with the timing, man.
No, but 2013 was a fairly good timing, you know, market-wise.
And we saw great potential in buying what I've referred to as a frickin' shipwreck.
It had potential, it had beauty.
Oh.
Sorry, so you're sitting on an asset because it can generate people up to $4 million a year by housing the migrants, right?
So if you sell the hotel, somebody's going to say, well, I can afford to pay X amount of dollars for it because I'm getting, at least until the hotel is broken up and sold for parts on the black market, I can make four mil a year out of it.
Yeah, I'm coming to that part as well.
But I just want to give a little background to why we so deeply care about this business and the locals as well.
We came into this business with zero experience.
And we saw great potential to make something happen and to give jobs and opportunity to our friends and family in our communities.
And it did happen.
We found quite a lot of success.
It was an explosive start rather than a zombie start.
But the lifestyle that changed during owning a hotel plus owning other businesses and having a family to take care of improve and so on.
You know, my parents were working 80 hours a week almost all year round on average.
You know, the work was insane.
So it put a lot, a lot of pressure to work in our hotels.
And we realized that after two years that we cannot keep this up.
We have to do something.
We have to change our life.
And that is when we started to put up the hotel for sale during summer 2015 because we couldn't keep up this 80 hour per week lifestyle all year round.
I don't understand.
I mean, if you're a good business person, you should not be working 80 hours a week because you should hire people, right?
Otherwise, you're not running a viable business.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But, you know, it was in the beginning, we had little experience in contact.
So it was hard to get high competent people who were also living in the countryside and nearby, who we could...
Yeah, it's hard to find competent people as a whole.
That's the biggest challenge of business isn't finding customers, it's finding people who aren't going to screw up your whole business.
So we did find a lot of, you know, teenagers who were able to supply the quantity and we were, you know, just give them a few days guiding and then they'll be able to work doing some basic things.
But there was so much There was so much decision making in the early stages of a hotel that's a shipwreck into making it to reinvest and to make good decisions to increase the value of the property and so on.
So, you know...
Okay.
Much though I love the pamphlet of your business history, you've got to get to the next point.
Quick, please.
So, we put it up for sale.
And what we noticed among the sellers was that we found two groups of sellers.
No, buyers.
I mean, buyers.
Now, one group was coming from, well, a little bit shady.
They were urban, richer people who often had a first-generation migrant background that wanted to buy the hotel for three times its actual value.
And where were they getting their money from?
I guess, were they successful business people or what happened?
From the looks of it...
Saudi Arabia!
Sorry, go on.
From the looks of it, some of them were highly educated.
Some of them were successful business people.
But they tended to be first generation migrants from Middle East and some were from Russia as well.
They didn't live nearby as well.
They didn't come from the local community.
They came from far away, you know, Stockholm or Gothenburg.
And then traveled all the way down here to this countryside just to buy a hotel three times its value?
Well, sure.
I mean, it's a bunch of Muslims who want to buy a hotel to invite other Muslims to come into a non-Muslim land, right?
That's what we noticed.
And that was...
This isn't a big mystery.
I mean, you just have to read the text, but go on.
This is where we saw that no, this is not good.
We wanted to sell the hotel to someone who would continue to run it as a hotel.
And we couldn't find those people.
There was always something lacking.
It was the experience, the distance, or the liquidity and money, or maybe just the strength and age to work.
Alright, so then what happened?
So we decided to keep the hotel.
And what happened after that was that our...
Okay, okay.
Sorry, sorry.
Again, if we can get to the moral question, this tour through the history of the hotel is not hugely relevant.
There's a philosophy show, not a business plan review show.
So if you can get to the moral question, I'd really appreciate it.
I'm enjoying the conversation.
I just want to make sure we get to the gist of it.
We doubled down because we noticed that we were...
How should I put this?
We had to double down in the business.
we were stuck.
I well actually the moral question is we Would you receive this offer or not?
Would you take it?
Would I have taken the offer?
No, of course not.
You would not?
No.
It's government money for something that I would certainly have questions as to the long term.
Propriety of the decision.
So, no.
I mean, and I'm not saying this like, oh, I just, you know, I'm not saying it would be easy.
I mean, you see that pile of money in front of you and it can, you can say, well, you know, we'll go start over in some other place or whatever, right?
Or, you know, this place is doomed, so let's move on.
But, no, I mean, I've been offered not, you know, always that amount of money, but I've certainly been, and I've talked about this before in the show, the temptations that have been sort of offered have been fairly extensive.
And, yeah.
Yeah.
And, you know, your show really helped a lot.
You gave me the facts, reason, and point I was able to tell my parents to influence their decision to keep the hotel.
But not only that, you know, our competitors were selling, were putting their hotel at sale and they doubled down.
We bought a hotel instead because they were just neighbors to us and if they became refugee home, our hotel would be worth zero.
So I wanted to say this to you, Steph, that your shows has really paid off in some areas and have influenced some real life decisions that have affected It made positive effects on some communities.
I really, really appreciate that, but in not taking this money and you can't find a buyer that you want to work with, I mean, aren't you at risk of losing the investment in the hotel?
It's not just the plus four mil a year, it's the potential minus if you can't find a seller you're comfortable with.
Yeah, and we instead bought a hotel just to make sure that the hotels in the region that were put up to sale wouldn't get bought by people who wanted to transform them into refugee homes.
So we doubled down and we worked our asses off and something interesting happened during the season.
Because there were so many hotels in Sweden that got completely out of business because they were doing something else instead, we were getting more customers.
Wait, sorry, because they were taking migrants?
What do you mean they were doing something else instead?
The hotels that become refugee homes can't house tourists.
Okay, got it.
So sorry, I just wanted to make sure I understood what that meant.
So more people are coming to you, right?
Yeah, so during the high season, there was reduced competition and that meant extra revenue for staying as a hotel when others did not.
Right.
Yeah, because people are looking to go to a place where they can have tourism without migrants, right?
Exactly.
And you would be that place.
Exactly.
And since our region so heavily relies on tourism, I looked it up.
We have taken below the national average in refugees in this area.
And that has a lot to do with private people making decisions not to take them in and just continue to work their asses off with higher taxes instead.
And in some cases it paid off and now things are looking better for the region as a whole actually.
And we have found potential good experienced buyers who might take it over till the next season.
So that's some input I wanted to make.
No, and I wanted to mention too that what's fascinating about all of this, and I knew some of this, but it's great to have it so laid out numerically, David, is if I commit a crime and then I bribe the judge to be found not guilty...
People don't think I'm not guilty.
People think I'm probably guilty of two things.
Number one, the crime, and number two, the crime of bribery.
Yeah.
So the fact that the government is funneling such insane amounts of money at getting people to take these migrants in means that people are being drugged by money.
They're being dazed by cash.
This is not something...
That is democratic.
And I mean, they're stealing from the future to bribe the present to get their way in the moment.
Yeah.
And that just means that there are then two crimes.
One is, of course, pursuing a policy of wildly, wildly significant demographic alteration in a country.
That's number one.
And number two...
bribing everyone to go along.
I mean, these are two crimes in my view that are extremely significant.
But the one kind of cancels out the other in the same way that I get to walk free if I bribe the judge.
But it is it's not democracy.
If you're just paying people $4 million a year to house 30 migrants, you can't possibly say, well, you know, the people aren't that upset about the migrants.
It's like, well, that's because it's like, well, the prostitute must really love me.
She wants to have sex with me and it only cost me $500.
You know, it's like, no.
She wants to not have sex with you $500 worth, which is why you have to give her the $500 for her to have sex with you.
And the Swedes don't want the migrants to the tune of $4 million a year.
For one hotel, which is why you have to pay them that amount to take them in, or some portion thereof.
Yeah.
And I remember my parents, they really felt the disgust, the real filth in accepting the money, because you were not providing any services that increased the quality of living.
The living standards, you know, you didn't provide anything.
There was no passion in it.
You know, the passion of running a business just died off with accepting these and working with these migrants.
And the bribery with regards to immigration is something that can't be overemphasized.
People need to understand this.
And I've made this case before, but there are Muslims, of course, who want to join the West, who want to come to Western countries because they want to be able to practice their belief system free of coercion, free of a theocratic state.
And I can understand that.
I mean, I don't think it's particularly virtuous to be forced to do stuff.
It's much better if you choose to follow your values voluntarily rather than out of fear of being lashed or beheaded or beaten up by roving gangs or whatever.
And so, yeah, there are people who want to come.
And I think those people can do relatively well, at least for the first generation in the society, because they're there and they're choosing and this and the other.
But when you bribe people to come to your country, for sure, they're not coming for the values.
They're coming for the money, almost exclusively.
And we know that because the migrants choose in general to try and get to places like Germany where they can get the most welfare money.
So you're bringing people in not because they want the values that the country represents, but because they want the money that you're giving to them.
So you would not assume that these people have any patriotic loyalty to Western values any more than you would assume that a prostitute loves you and wants to bear your children.
You're paying her to love you, and they're paying people to come to the country.
There's no loyalty in that.
The only loyalty is to the money.
And when the money runs out, as it will, because the debts are going up and up and up, when the money runs out, I think we'll very quickly find out where the real loyalties are.
Yeah, and that is the moral question, is that this awe, this massive bribery, just to take him in.
And you know, Most of hotel owners are actually Swedes, so they had to offer this bribery to Swedes to take him in.
So the money didn't just go to the migrants themselves.
It went to some certain owners and individuals as well.
And it went to the bad owners, I would assume, the people who weren't doing very well, who wanted this money because it's...
It's communistic demographic redistribution of genetics and wealth.
And yeah, it is incredibly tragic.
Democracy is not a great system overall.
I'm not a statist.
But at least, at least, if you get the bill for what you want in the here and now, at least you can make a bit more of an informed decision.
But when the money is simply borrowed and massive amounts of bribery rain down upon the general population in order for the government to get its way, that's not democracy.
That is utter corruption.
That is utter bribery and immoral and would be perfectly immoral.
If you want a government official to do things your way and you offer them money to do so, that's illegal.
But if the government wants you to do things their way and offers you money, well, that's just policy.
And of course, this hypocrisy is, I think, becoming increasingly clear.
Yeah.
Accepting these migrants to our village, if we did it, and if we accepted our competing hotel that we bought, their deal as well, because they were offered the same deal, but with 20 Afghan boys.
So if we took both of them, that would be 50.
If we did that, you know, that would be like...
Yeah, we're talking close to six million dollars a year.
Yeah, that's insane.
Guaranteed.
You know, you don't need to advertise because they're there.
You don't need to worry about whether they're going to pay or not or whether their visa is going to bounce or whether, you know.
I mean, I guess you have to worry about insurance, but you don't even have to worry that much because they can't leave.
They have no choice.
So if the grounds deteriorate and the pool doesn't work and the plumbing is spotty, well, as a hotel owner, that would be the death knell of your business.
But when you're being paid by the government and people are forced to be there, it doesn't matter.
You can just let things go to hell and you still get paid.
And the deal had a few questionable things as well because they could not specify how long they were supposed to stay there.
But they don't care.
No, they have no plan.
There's no endgame for any of this.
There's no endgame.
There is merely, let us satisfy the sentimentality of the female voters in the here and now, and let us make sure the left-wing press doesn't attack us for being racists.
Even though, of course, it's not a race.
There's no plan here.
There's just this massive desperation to avoid being viewed in any negative way by women in the media.
And again, I'm generalizing.
There's lots of women.
Ingrid Calquist's been on the show.
Lots of women who are against it.
And a lot of men cucked out to the planet.
Neptune, who are, I guess you're honest...
Who want them?
It is just very much generalization, but generalizations have some validity when they're backed up by statistics.
So, yeah, it's politicians wanting to appease the female vote and wanting to appease the media who will roundly attack them if they say, you know, if we really want to help these people, we can help 12 of them in the Middle East for every one we bring here.
So let's be really intelligent and help them where they live rather than bring them where they can't really succeed.
Yeah, and we could not withdraw from this deal as well.
We couldn't sue them if they refused to give the money over in return for offering the housing food and protection.
And there was no renewal, right?
You say, well, after a year, we'll figure out if we want to do it the year after.
I mean, you've signed your future away too, right?
I mean, they're there until it's a hole in the ground, right?
Yeah, exactly.
We would be stuck with them if they...
If they found no permanent place to put them at, because it was just supposed to be temporary.
But we noticed that, you know, this was a really bad deal.
Right.
All right.
Is there anything else you wanted to mention about this?
I'm so ready to move on to the next caller.
I appreciate the call.
You did influence this decision.
The information you put out in the videos has made a real effect on improving some counties and regions.
Well, I appreciate that.
And I also wanted to say to you and your family, what an incredibly noble and brave and powerful and courageous and hard decision to make.
Massive praise and props to what you guys have chosen to do.
It's easy in theory to say, oh, you get that amount of money dangled in front of you when you're facing a potential liability of It's not just, well, you know, maybe the hotel's worth a couple of million, you might lose some of it.
So it's not just the four million plus, it's maybe the couple of million minus.
It's a big, big gap.
And until you get that kind of stuff dangled in front of you, it's really hard to know what it's like to face that kind of decision.
But it sounds like you guys acquitted yourself with enormous honor and dignity and virtue.
And I just really wanted to submit my respect.
Yeah, we worked our asses off just to keep this place going.
We're still keeping the hotels and we think we've found some good people who have more experience in the business who will continue to run it after they've taken over.
Okay, well, thanks very much.
I appreciate that.
Do give us a drop.
Drop us a line.
Let us know how things are going in a while.
I'm certainly curious.
And thanks so much for the call.
It's always great to have this illumination thrown on these challenges.
So, all right, let's move on to the next call.
You're welcome.
Alright, up next we have John.
John wrote in and said, I'm a 20-year-old demon.
I mean, straight, white, Trump-voting man currently living in Chicago, Illinois.
As a student comedian, entrepreneur, and childcare worker, I've had nearly the full range of experiences the liberal haven has to offer.
Dealing with the DePaul-Milo riot, watching my pro-Trump comedian friend get banned from comedy shows and bullied, I've been paid under minimum wage to watch abused children with employers who refuse to do anything to help the kids.
My girlfriend's brother and our friend have been mugged just outside where we live, and our college tries to push the social justice agenda frequently.
I've had more negative experiences with this city than I can count, the recent torture incident was sickening, and I've seen college radicals from all around, but especially young black Chicagoans, continue to push white privilege as the cause of the insanity.
I would like to discuss how to make a difference in these environments both at the cultural or grassroots level and how Trump can help these cities who don't even seem to want his help.
I'm trying to start a business and continue to debate and speak up wherever I reasonably can.
What else can be done?
That's from John in Chicago.
Hi John, how are you doing?
I'm doing pretty good today, Stefan.
How are you doing?
All right.
Have you been following?
So this is, of course, this young man, man-child, this 18-year-old who was held and tortured by two black men and two black women.
And the initial information that I got was he was kidnapped.
Now, they're being charged with kidnapping him.
We just found out today they're being held without bail, of course.
And they face hate crime, kidnapping, unlawful restraint and battery charges in their alleged role in the attack, which they live streamed.
And they live streamed on Facebook to like 16,000 people or 16,000 people at one point were watching.
And this went on for half an hour.
Facebook is supposed to pull this stuff down right away when people complain.
But it just went on and on.
Either people weren't complaining, which is horrifying, or they were, and Facebook wasn't doing much about it.
I don't know what to think.
But, yeah, apparently the boy, the 18-year-old white man who suffers from ADHD apparently and schizophrenia, he's friends, right, with one of the suspects, Jordan Hill.
And I think his mom dropped him off at a McDonald's for a sleepover.
And I think there was a stolen van involved and Hill became angry because the victim's mother called and said, hey, where's my son?
You know, because who wouldn't be enraged at that, right?
And then they took him to some third floor apartment, as you know, in Chicago.
Bound and gagged, beaten over several days by two males and two females, forced to drink toilet water, scalped.
Chunks of his scalp?
Yeah, it was...
They flicked cigarette ashes into his wounds.
And according to reports, Hill said, called the mom and said, it'll cost you 300 bucks to get your son back.
And he escaped.
So Tuesday, there was some downstairs neighbor, I guess they were torturing this guy forever.
Some downstairs neighbor was complaining about the noise and then they I went down and the two women kicked in this downstairs neighbor's door and I guess had a confrontation and stole some stuff on the way out.
But while everyone was distracted with that, the young man managed to escape and was found in freezing temperatures, of course, in virtually no clothing.
It took forever for the police to get anything out of the poor guy because He was completely terrified.
And I don't know.
I mean, it's easy to say in hindsight, but I gotta tell you, man, I mean, looking at pictures of these guys, maybe my perception is, quote, colored by the fact that I know what they did, but seeing pictures of these men and women, I gotta tell you, I'm not entirely convinced that it's a very wise parenting decision to say, yeah, go for a sleepover.
These people are great.
No, not at all.
I mean...
I think one of the few saving graces about the situation is that at least we're seeing the hate crime label being finally applied evenly.
But other than that, there's...
Well, but I don't know if it...
I mean, if it wasn't for the internet, do you think it would have been?
It was the internet that...
I think it's potential that the internet and social media and activists may have moved the needle on that.
Oh, certainly.
I think the internet has helped out with a lot of things like this, like with Jordan Peterson up where you guys are.
He'd probably not have a job right now if it wasn't for so many people writing in about it.
This whole incident is just really upsetting.
I'm not familiar with the laws in Illinois, but I believe in some states mentally handicapped people aren't I'm always eligible to even vote so The fact that in this video we see them yelling fuck white people and fuck Donald Trump as if the political affiliation is somehow Justifying this when this man might not have even been able to vote and well,
I wonder see I wonder I wonder where They might have got the impression that all white people support Donald Trump who is a racist and I wonder...
See, I don't think...
You know, I don't know.
Obviously, I don't know these people.
Looking at what they did, and I'm going to go out on a limb and say it's not Bond villain-type evil intelligence to livestream your crimes.
I mean, that's just so...
Unbelievably dumb.
Evil, of course.
The evil is the action.
The dumb is the broadcasting.
I don't think they're sitting there saying, well, this guy, you know, he doesn't seem that bright, but I bet he voted.
They've been told over and over and over by the mainstream media that Donald Trump is a racist, that Donald Trump's supporters are white people who are racists.
So, of course, you tell people Who don't perhaps have the widest scope of intellectual abilities, you tell them over and over and over again, Donald Trump, literally Hitler, literally a fascist, literally KKK, David Duke, literally, right?
And you tell, and white people are so racist, basket of the pearl, they're all racist and sexist and homophobic and they all support Donald Trump because they hate minorities, right?
Well, what happens when you keep filling the air with such poisonous lies?
You actually get the opposite effect.
You get anti-white racism is what I've at least seen and what I've experienced.
No, it's the anti-white racism is what's being said.
Donald Trump is a racist, and the only reason that white people support Donald Trump is because white people are all racists.
The result isn't anti-white racism.
That is anti-white racism.
Oh, well, then the result is going to be more and more of these hate crimes.
The result is violence.
Yeah, violence.
When you say that this person is a fascist and Hitler and is going to just unleash the legions of hell on everyone who's not...
I mean, of course, you're going to escalate hysteria and drama and opposition and aggression.
And I just did an interview with...
Professor Wright, who is talking about how...
It's a very good interview to watch.
And he's talking about, yeah, people on the left are violent.
In general, right?
There's a tendency.
The more left you go, the more violence you get.
And the more right you go, the less violence you get.
The more conformity with social norms and with the laws you get.
And...
So, yeah.
I mean, the mainstream media.
In trying to win...
Power for Hillary Clinton completely and totally demonized Donald Trump and Donald Trump supporters.
And when you completely dehumanize and demonize an entire group, an entire race, do not be shocked when these kinds of things happen.
You can pretend to be shocked if you want, but...
Yeah, and what's particularly upsetting, I really wish, I'm sure Almost everyone who's watching this really wishes that you weren't correct that there wasn't this anti-white racism bleeding into violence and hate crimes and things but I've been talking to black Chicagoans I've been kind of following the reactions to this event pretty closely on social media and I do quite literally see
people saying things like oh well You know, when you vote for a fascist, if you're still going to defend them by saying they were mentally ill or whatever, awful things like that.
And they are, in fact, using...
All white people are voting for Donald Trump, and Donald Trump is literally Hitler.
That is, in fact, a justification for this.
And that's...
It's disgusting.
I wish you weren't right, but you are.
Oh, yeah.
And, I mean, this is...
This is going to continue until people start listening to reason.
I mean, this is why, you know, what I do and what others do in this area is so important because the alternative to what we do is these kinds of escalation.
This kind of escalation and this kind of things just getting worse and worse, right?
I mean, there's a report that says one of CNN's reporters was caught laughing and smiling.
While viewing the Facebook live stream torture video of this disabled white man.
Oh, Jesus.
I mean, she thought that they were still showing the video, but they were instead showing her and laughing at it.
Wow.
And these are the people who are trying to run the narrative, who are trying to make all of this go down.
Wow.
Yeah, the media is extremely dangerous.
Extremely dangerous.
Yeah.
Well, I guess that gets to kind of the crux of my question, which is, in an ideal world, you could simply present evidence, present facts, and speak logically and with evidence, and people would then be able to listen to that.
But we have this sort of emotional...
Elephant in the room that's kind of Commanding large amounts of people to act believe and vote in certain ways and I try to speak with Providing sources providing statistics whenever I can but I guess specifically with this most recent torture event I've I've tried to reach out to a lot of African Americans especially in Chicago and I've tried to speak to them because I I saw their reactions to this, and it didn't make me happy.
What about the reactions that you saw?
Well, one of the first things I saw was someone questioning if the person was actually mentally disabled, as if it really makes a difference when it comes to torture, but there you go.
You have someone questioning the actual mental state of the victim.
You have people who were only saying bad things about the tactics.
They weren't saying the intent of And the behavior here is pure evil.
You had them saying instead that, oh, what kind of dumbass goof is going to be putting their face on camera during this?
What a dummy!
Who's that person's mama?
Who raised him?
And then I even had people who were saying that white privilege is involved in this.
As if maybe a black person were to be tortured that the media would not jump all over it or wouldn't say that they had Special needs but because the person's white that means well of course we have to cover this and I would I would go into these discussions and I would say I would question all of those things I would say why is it relevant if the man has special needs this is torture this is a terrible thing either way why are you questioning that even be why are you mocking the tactics and methodology
and not the morality of the intent here and the morality of the the action And why are you bringing up white privilege?
What does that have to do with any of this?
And I would not get reasonable answers.
In fact, my favorite response is I kind of got a little long-winded and I wrote quite a few words.
And the response I got was, why do I even read anything white people put online?
And at that point, it's like, well, how do you have a conversation with that person?
So I tried to respond to her.
I got a little trolly, because I knew I wasn't really going to get much of anywhere.
But, you know, I tried.
And she ended up calling me...
She said...
Excuse me, I'm sorry.
I said, you know, honestly, it's people like you who continue to push this anti-white narrative...
It's people like you that is why Donald Trump got the platform, because people are getting angry now.
And she said, no, the reason Donald Trump won is because you sunburnt lizard people think you're superior.
And it's like, okay, so now we're all lizard people.
Sunburnt, I understand.
I don't quite get the lizard people.
Me neither.
Maybe they're combining Illuminati conspiracies with it or something.
I don't know, but...
And it's like, that one especially pissed me off because there were times where there were some racist bullshit being said in my own family about black people at one time or another, where black people were referred to as monkeys.
And I would say, hey, no, that's wrong.
You shouldn't say that.
That's awful.
And then at the first opportunity, I mean, I know being called a lizard doesn't exactly...
Carry with it the weight of calling a black person a monkey, but I mean, the sentiment is the same.
Well, to be fair, monkeys are much more evolved than lizards.
That's true.
But it's like, given the very first opportunity, you know, here's a white guy trying to understand why, you know, a large group of black people is saying this, is thinking this, and he's trying to come in peacefully and talk, and the very first thing you do is you refer to him as some animal.
You know?
So I don't know how exactly we're supposed to combat this in our inner cities.
And what I really don't know is how Donald Trump, I voted for the guy, I really hope he does a good job, but I don't know how he's going to fix the inner cities when local governments don't like him, obviously.
We know mayors like Rahm Emanuel despise the man.
And how, I mean, even the voters, the Well, the good thing is, it's not your problem.
It's not my problem either.
I mean, it's Donald Trump's problem.
And so we can observe and obviously see what choices he's going to make.
Certainly, more jobs will help.
More jobs will give those who want to work the opportunity to go and work.
But, you know, the basic thing, and I don't know how this is going to occur.
The good thing is I don't have to know because I'm not in politics.
But, I mean, I know what I would do if I was in politics.
But at some point, families are going to have to be repaired.
They're going to have to be restored.
Women are going to have to start having husbands and fathers for their children.
And it's terrible that it's come to this place where like three quarters of black kids are growing up without fathers and the family is destroyed and it's happening to the white and Hispanic cultures as well.
But at some point, the welfare state is going to have to vastly diminish and it's going to have to move to private charity.
I mean, there's no question of that.
And whether that happens in a graceful way through policy or whether that happens in a sort of Well, the welfare state ended when Rome fell, didn't it?
And things returned to private charity under the Germanic tribes and so on.
So the welfare state's going to end, one way or another, because mathematically it can't continue.
Now, I wish the welfare state had ended 10 years ago, because then there wouldn't be a migrant crisis.
I've been arguing against the welfare state and its unbelievably toxic effects since I was in my mid-teens.
So yeah, 35 years I've been saying the welfare state is going to be the end of us.
The welfare state is going to be the end of us.
And lo and behold, the welfare state is at the basis of the migrant crisis and therefore is creating all of those challenges.
So at some point, women are going to have to, and men, but I think more women, they're just going to have to get off the welfare state.
Now, of course, they're going to scream bloody murder.
My children have to eat.
I mean, they're just going to go nuts, right?
And they're going to pull every conceivable trick in the book to try and keep the welfare state going.
But it won't.
It won't.
I'm telling everyone, it won't.
And my speech will be, yeah, sorry, ladies.
You stripped the cupboard bare.
You ate your seed crop.
You took too much.
You had too many children.
Not enough husbands.
You did the wrong stuff.
You knew it couldn't last.
You understand.
You voted.
You went to government schools, but still you can do basic math and you know that endless debt can't be sustained.
You understand that.
Now, it is going to be tough.
It is going to be tough for you to make this transition to private charity rather than Dead-eyed government welfare.
Well, men pay the taxes and men collect the taxes and men usually deliver the taxes to you.
And so you don't want to be dependent on men.
You want to be strong and independent women.
So we're going to take away the temptation and the welfare state is done.
Now, you may say, well, this is too difficult to transition.
We don't want to do it.
We can't do it.
Well, ladies, you say you want to be equal to men.
I respect that.
You don't want to be treated as lesser than men.
You want to be equal to men.
Well, ladies, throughout most of human history, men have been drafted into war.
And that often meant that they got blown up.
Or beheaded.
Or they became amputees of between one to four or five, if you count the penis, problematic areas of detachment.
Men were subject to mustard gas, post-traumatic stress disorder, sleeplessness.
Men were subject to shrapnel staying in their bodies for the rest of their lives.
So men were drafted and dragged overseas and thrown into a hail of shrapnel and gunfire and explosions and God knows what, right?
Now, ladies, that's not happening to you.
Not happening to you.
You're not being sent into battle, as men have in general throughout history.
All that's happening is you don't get free stuff for you paid for by violence and the exploitation largely of men.
Now, you don't like it when men exploit women, so now you get the opportunity to not exploit men.
Now, Given if you have a lot of children, it's going to be tough for you to get childcare.
My suggestion is find a really nice man and settle down.
Say, oh, well, there aren't enough nice men out there.
Well, ladies, you've been raising men for the last two generations, so if there aren't any nice men out there, I really don't know what to say other than maybe you should have raised them a little bit differently.
Maybe there should have been some nice men around them in their lives so that they could be growing up to be nice men that you can marry and raise your children with.
So, long and short of it is, yes, it's terrible what is happening.
There's no money left in the cupboard and you need to go and find some other way to support yourselves, you know, get a job.
You can all pool together and collectively, you know, you can get together with five or six other mothers and one of you can watch the kids of the others while the others at work.
You can work it out.
You're smart people.
You'll be able to figure it out, no problem.
And just be thankful that all that's being asked of you Is that you stop exploiting the taxpayers for your bad decisions rather than, say, you're being dragged off to go and fight a war where odds are you may not even come back and you certainly will never come back the same as when you left.
So don't be too upset, ladies.
You have a lot better than most men throughout history.
So let's be strong and independent together, shall we?
And that would be my approach.
That's going to have to happen for sure.
It's all about teaching people on sort of a larger scale that personal...
Personal virtue and personal responsibility is going to be the path to collective prospering, I suppose.
That can be a hard thing to teach, but it'll definitely be worth it, for sure, obviously.
But why are you having these conversations at the moment?
I'm curious why.
I'm sorry, can you repeat that?
I didn't hear you.
The conversations that you're having about these matters where you end up being called a sunburnt lizard or whatever it is, I mean, why are you having these conversations?
Well, to be honest with you, I usually avoid them completely.
I usually don't get into it with people on the internet.
I'll talk with people in my life about this kind of stuff because I'm interested in it.
My friends are interested in politics.
You know, in my personal life, I do that.
Just don't, I mean, my suggestion is don't make much of a habit of it.
But see, I mean, the older I get, and I had all these ideals when I was younger, and not even that much younger, but it's a team.
Everyone's got a team.
And this is the way things work.
Everyone has a team except white people.
But I think white people are kind of understanding that If you're playing against a team, you're playing soccer for the future of civilization, and you pass to the other team because you want diversity, and the other team is only going to pass to themselves, you're going to lose.
I'm afraid you're going to have to develop some in-group preferences.
It's a shame.
It's a reality.
It's just what needs to be there, right?
I mean, Don Lemon was talking about this situation, and he said he had some guests on.
Matt Lewis.
And the guest said, the fact that this was a vulnerable person that was probably duped into going along with them, it appears it is someone who is mentally disabled.
I think it makes it even more sickening.
But at the end of the day, you just try to wrap your head around evil.
That's what this is.
It's evil.
It's brutality.
It's man's inhumanity to man.
Okay, so Matt not entirely unfamiliar with boring cliches that add nothing to the conversation, but Don Lemon said, I don't think it's evil.
I don't think it's evil.
I think these are young people and I think they have bad home training.
I say, who is raising these young people?
I have no idea who's raising these young people because no one I know on earth who is 17 years old or 70 years old would ever think of treating another person like that.
It is inhumane.
And you wonder at 18 years old, where is your parent?
Where's your guardian?
And during the same discussion, Democrat strategist And former press secretary for Bernie Sanders, Simone Sanders, said the attack was not a hate crime if the suspects were motivated by hate of Donald Trump.
Now, I think that's more like terrorism in my particular opinion, but yeah, so it's not evil.
Now, of course, we know this without even having to ask the question.
If the races had been reversed and if four white adults had kidnapped and were torturing a mentally handicapped young black man, Then would Don Lemon say, oh, it's not evil.
They're just raised badly.
We know for sure that he would be all over it.
Because that's his team, right?
He's a black guy, right?
So that's his team.
And so he's very hostile to the opposing team.
And he's very conciliatory towards his team.
Now, we are a tribal species.
This is how we kind of evolved as a...
Whites have been trying this universal thing, right?
This okay, we'll not have an in-group preference so that we can all get along.
But basically, it's like a guarded city.
It's unilateral disarmament.
It's what the left has always wanted, right?
Unilateral disarmament, which basically means we want totalitarians to take over.
So white people have universally disarmed.
Any sense of in-group preference, in the hopes that this breeds a peaceful and wonderful world.
I would say that the hypothesis is taking a few whacks to the head these days.
It's taking a few polar bear blows, right?
I mean, of interracial crime between blacks and whites, 90% of it is blacks against whites.
Even though there are more whites than blacks, at least for now, in America.
So yeah, Don Lemon, he's got his team, and he is very pro his team, I assume, and not so pro the other team.
And it's...
It's boring.
You know, it's the worst thing about it is when we have these my team kind of groups in society where the blacks look out for the interests of the blacks and so on and the Asians look out for the Muslims look out.
Well, you have these groups.
It's boring because you know.
You know what's going to happen every single time there's any kind of conflict or altercation, particularly when races or ideologies or ethnicities are involved.
It's the same thing with women.
Two.
That female in-group preference, you know, that the women are going to be excused and the men are going to be bad.
And you know that there's an altercation between a black and a white, that if the white looks like the aggressor, the blacks are going to go crazy.
And if the black looks like the aggressor, well, normally it's been a little bit muted.
This one is quite a bit different because it's so vivid and you can actually see the torture going on and the fact that the man is mentally challenged or handicapped as well makes it even more repulsive and immoral.
But there's no progress.
There's this balkanization of belief, right?
As I talked about in the video, what pisses me off about the Chicago torture kidnapping.
It's just this balkanization.
You know everyone's opinions before you go into it.
And, you know, when...
When the perception is that a white man attacked a black person, then race relations are terrible.
And now it's the other way around.
Obama's saying, well, no, race relations are actually the best they've been under my presidency.
And they're a great relative.
You know, we've still got things to improve, but they're doing really, really well.
Of course, he won't talk about anything to do with dismantling affirmative action or anything like that.
But, you know, we can't make any progress.
You know, when was the last time we made any kind of substantial philosophical progress as a society?
Well, we can't.
Because we all have these in-group preference narratives that are just bullshit and slanted and bigoted and biased and nothing to do with reality in particular.
It's just, my tribe should win, my tribe should win, my tribe should win, my tribe should win.
And we can't make any progress because we can't basically agree on the fundamental principles that unite us with reality.
So I don't really know what the answer is other than to keep doing the philosophical shows that I keep doing.
But I don't know if philosophy is strong enough to overcome biologically programmed in-group preferences.
I have my doubts.
Well...
One thing I do know that can be of service is raising children in a peaceful, happy, stable environment.
That video you did earlier in the week about France banning spanking, that was very good news to hear.
My experience in Chicago, I've worked at day camps, and I believe that the day camps are somewhat comparable to the conditions in the schools, the public schools.
There's so much child abuse that I can't help but think it's obvious why there's so much crime, is because kids as young as five, six, even younger than that, are being hit by their parents, and then you have a bunch of kids who are being hit by their parents, and you just let them loose together, and it's a disaster.
And of course, that's going to raise communities that are committing all sorts of violence.
They're mirroring the behavior that they're Right.
I mean, the problems in France are not going to be solved by banning spanking, but it's definitely a move in the right direction.
And the funny thing is, you know, a lot of people have commented on that video like, I don't like the government getting involved in parenting.
What?
Are you kidding me?
What if you torture your child?
Can the government get involved in your parenting then?
What if you starve your child?
Can the government get involved in your parenting then?
What if you break your child's arm?
Can the government get involved in your parenting then?
It's not the government getting involved in your parenting like, oh, here are the tablet games that your child is allowed to play.
You know, here's the movies.
It's not the government getting involved in your parenting.
It's the government consistently applying non-aggression principle laws.
And I just think it's funny, like, well, parenting, you know, it's such a personal decision whether I hit my child.
It's like, well, you know, we can't have any laws against wife-beating because then the government is getting involved in people's marital relations.
It's like, no, no, that's not the reality.
And I think, you know, that the black kids, what is so unbelievably horrifying and tragic that's going on in the black community is...
There are, of course, there's the race and IQ differences, right?
The blacks have an average IQ of 85 or maybe a little higher.
It's gone up, I think, a little bit, but it's been stable for the past couple of decades.
And they have significantly increased prevalence of what's called the warrior gene, which has been associated with certain levels of aggression.
The question is, why have things gone so badly in the black community since the 60s?
And it's farther absence.
Because if you have, let's just say, for the sake of argument, there aren't indications, but I don't think it's certainly proved beyond a shadow of a doubt.
But let's say there is a genetic basis for increased aggression in certain groups within society.
The Irish, let's say.
I can speak from some experience, but...
Well, aggression is diminished and ameliorated by father presence.
And so this is a really awful thing, is that the group that's most vulnerable to negative behavior stemming from father absence is the group that has been delivered unto father absence by the government, by the welfare state.
This is the most horrifying thing, is that you look at the sort of ghetto culture, the thug culture, and so on, and it comes out of It comes out of this father absence to a significant degree.
And Tommy Sotomayor, you can have a look at for some interesting videos on this.
He speaks about a culture I don't know much about, but he seems to speak with some significant authority and certainly putting his neck out on the line to bring some challenging truths to people.
And this is what is so heartbreaking is I know for almost a certain fact that the black community would be doing so much better now without the welfare state if the welfare state had not been implemented, which hits the poorest the hardest and hits those with the lowest opportunities the hardest.
It could be so much better.
And I mentioned in that video, as I mentioned again, you could read Dr.
Thomas Sowell's, S-O-W-E-L-L, his last column about this.
There was a Harlem Renaissance, and after the Second World War, blacks were getting into the middle class professions at significantly high rates.
And It could have been so much better.
And even if there are genetics involved, like let's just say there are genetics involved in IQ. I mean, there's some who say yes.
And we had James Flynn on, Dr.
James Flynn, who says not so much, it's environment.
But let's say, let's say it's all genetics.
Well, then if there'd been a free market and less or no welfare state from private charity, then the smartest blacks would have had the most kids.
Yay!
You know, that's great.
I'm not talking about eugenics.
I'm talking about freedom.
And the same is true for all communities.
But, of course, the way that it works, as we know, and, you know, I think Mike Judge, the beginning of idiocracy, sums this up fairly well, is that with a welfare state, you have the smartest people having the fewest children and the less intelligent having the most children, just by the very nature of the incentives.
And I don't know if we're going to be able to pull ourselves out of this nosedive.
But that doesn't mean it ain't worth a good old try.
Yeah, no, it's definitely worth a try.
I really hope that over the next few years, over the Trump years, there's something that can be done to sort of reverse these trends.
I really, you know, I hope he pulls through.
This trend of violence in the black community, especially in the inner cities, If I could just share one quick story that's absolutely heartbreaking.
It's very quick.
If it's a good story, you know, I watch Lord of the Rings.
If it's a good story, you could take your time.
Well, it's mostly just an example of how terrible some of this stuff is.
While I was working at a camp, and the conditions that were put in both as workers and And that the kids are put in are just atrocious.
So there would be maybe 16 college sophomores who were the camp counselors for maybe 200 inner city kids.
And it was the middle of the Chicago summer.
It's 100 plus degrees.
And there's no room inside the building for the kids.
So we all have to stay in the parking lot, letting the sun reflect off the black pavement and They don't even have water coolers for the kids.
I would have to go on my break to the gas station to buy ice with my own money for the kids.
So it's in that kind of environment, first of all, that nearly all of the summer camps are happening.
I know parents who are collecting welfare money who could be home with their kids, theoretically.
I mean, at least they have welfare money, right?
And they're still sending The kid.
Off to camp.
Which the government or the taxpayers also pays for, right?
Yeah, some of them.
It's definitely subsidized.
And one of the worst examples that really broke my heart there was this kid, DJ, must have been six or seven.
He was such a sweet kid.
And I don't remember how it got brought up, but we were talking about his home life and he said, well, I'm not a bad boy like my brother.
And I just said, oh, well, Well, that's good.
I mean, it's good that you're not a bad boy.
And he said, yeah, daddy doesn't like bad boys.
Daddy hits my brother when he's a bad boy.
And I said, okay, does your dad hit you?
He said, no, I'm not a bad boy like my brother.
I said, what does your brother do?
And he said, oh, well, he's just so annoying.
You know, my brother's two years old and he won't shut up.
And I mean, I can just stop the story there.
That A father is beating his two-year-old in front of his six-year-old for being a two-year-old.
And there were so many instances where there are kids who are clearly mirroring the violence they see in their communities, in their homes, and they're mirroring that on peaceful kids, taking advantage of peaceful kids.
And I'm put in a situation where I have to Say, do I tell their parents that they were misbehaving and being bad today?
Or do I not?
Because if I don't tell them, I don't know what's going to be done.
Because I don't exactly have all the power in the world over these kids, nor would I want to.
But if I do tell them, then what are their parents going to do?
Just hit them more, and they're going to come back with a vengeance the next day.
They're not going to trust me.
They're going to feel like I'm a snitch.
And, um...
Well, and they're going to blame you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Rather than, of course, their parents, right?
Because kids have to have allegiance to their parents and who's given them the food and shelter, right?
And so what I do is I'd say, well, there's an anonymous way to do this.
We have child abuse forms you can fill out.
And I'll tell you, Stefan, I worked with kids back in Connecticut where I'm from, and there are always the occasional red flags.
There's always the occasional tragic story, but nothing above normal really in Connecticut.
And I was kind of working at more Premium camps.
But working at these inner city camps in Chicago, I filled out more child abuse forms in the first two weeks working there than I had in my whole life up to that point.
And I had to stop filling them out at some point because I realized my boss wasn't doing anything with him.
He didn't care.
And clearly he didn't care because the kids were in these squalorous conditions.
So I know that was...
I've mentioned this before.
I worked in a daycare in a rough neighborhood for a number of years when I was younger.
It had a big effect on me.
I had lots of black kids there.
Seeing what their lives were like was just heartbreaking.
It was just heartbreaking.
I understand.
I understand what you mean.
I guess that's kind of why I called because You try to make a difference in conversation.
People don't care.
I'm a comedian.
I try to speak up about certain things.
My Trump-supporting friend, Mike, he's a comedian, and he would get banned from shows.
People would go on his Facebook and call him all sorts of names in front of his fans, in front of his family.
He'd get bumped to the bottom of open mic lists, things like that.
I, one time, I shared a meme of Bernie Sanders and said something not 100% supportive of Bernie Sanders and was told by an internship manager at a comedy venue I worked at that if I kept saying things bad about Bernie Sanders, I'd be fired from the show because there were comedians messaging him saying, who's that Trump kid?
Who's that racist Trump kid?
Right.
Now, this is the important thing, and I'm sorry to interrupt you, but this is the really important thing that people are starting to finally figure out.
I don't mean you.
Maybe you've known it for a long time.
The left has known it's a war for a hundred years or more.
The left has known it's a war.
Like, can you imagine if someone tweeted out some pro Bernie Sanders thing that you'd be on there typing and trying to get that person fired?
Yeah, exactly.
Be like, who cares?
Let them say it.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, live and let live.
This is your thoughts.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, right?
It's a free country.
But the left knows it's a war.
This is why they'll try and fuck you up.
This is why they'll try and get you fired.
This is why they'll slander you.
This is why they'll try to attack your source of income.
This is why they'll try to cause problems in your life.
They know it's a war.
And now the right has finally figured it out.
I'd like to think I have a little to do with that here and there.
But the writers finally figured it out.
Oh!
We have to hit back!
I get it.
It's a war.
And we're losing by pretending it's only a debate.
No.
When people try and get you fired, guess what?
It's not a debate anymore!
When people try to get you slandered, guess what?
It's not a debate anymore.
When you get death threats, guess what?
Not a debate anymore, people!
So, that's the reality.
It's not a debate.
It is a battle.
Now, still, it is only a battle of words, and it's a battle of income, and it's a battle of reputations, and so on.
I hope we can keep it there.
Still a little bit more civilized than the alternative.
But they get that it's a war.
Oh, this person is a Trump supporter.
I'm going to fuck him up.
Well, I think the right has finally figured this out.
And is saying, oh, okay.
So if people are doing absolutely horrible things, we should boycott.
We should figure things out.
We should try and find a way to make them hurt.
In the way that they've made other people hurt for about a century or more.
That it is a battle and discomfort is the way that we can win.
Not fights, not physical, not violence or anything like that.
But consequences, negative consequences for other people.
And again, my friend Mike Cernovich is on the forefront of this kind of stuff and he does a magnificent job of it.
And there are others as well.
I do it in my own way as well.
And I think the right has finally got this.
Now you understand what it is.
You see your friend who's a Trump supporter and you tweet out one thing about Bernie Sanders and they try to fuck you up.
And it's not going to change until we do it back.
I mean, sorry, these people aren't going to learn through reason and evidence because they have so little reason and evidence that their recourse is to try and get you fired.
Sorry, they're going to have to learn through negative consequences.
Those negative consequences being legal and peaceful.
But, yeah, this is how it has to go.
And it's the left that's brought us there.
The only thing that I can say is that the right has all the bottled up, frustrated patients of the past hundred years of losing.
I think that they're ready to recognize it's a battle.
I'd say so, too.
And people rising to prominence like you, like Milo Yiannopoulos, like, I mean, fuck, like Trump.
I mean, it's definitely...
I like how Trump is third in that list.
It's at a point that it's very nice.
But Trump and Farage and all the other people in Europe and so on, yeah, sorry.
Being nice hasn't worked.
Being reasonable hasn't worked.
Bringing reason and evidence hasn't worked.
No, now it's time for people to suffer the consequences of what it is that they're doing.
Again, I'm talking all peaceful and all that kind of stuff, but No, you're going to lose if the only person who understands the fight is your opponent.
I mean, if I think Mike Tyson wants to give me a hug and he knows we're in the ring, who's going to end up on the ground?
Well, either way, who's going to end up on the ground, but it'll be faster.
Yeah, that would be you.
You'd end up on the ground.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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