July 13, 2016 - Freedomain Radio - Stefan Molyneux
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3346 Black Lives Matter: Truth and Consequences | Charles C. Johnson and Stefan Molyneux
Over the last several years, a series of high profile politicized police shootings has given rise to Black Lives Matter and large anti-police protest movement. A recent police shooting left Philando Castile dead and made Lavish Diamond Reynolds an overnight celebrity through her Facebook livestreaming of the incidents’ aftermath. While the mainstream media predictably jumped on the “racist white police officer” narrative – the facts paint a much different picture. Charles C. Johnson from Got News joins Stefan Molyneux to discuss his research into the story, including: Philando Castile being pulled over due to matching a BOLO description from a recent armed robbery, the background of Diamond Reynolds and much much more!Gotnews.com founder and editor-in-chief Charles C. Johnson is an investigative journalist, author, and sought after researcher. For more of his work, check out: http://gotnews.comPhilando Castile: http://gotnews.com/tag/philando-castile/Lavish Reynolds: http://gotnews.com/tag/lavish-reynolds/Race and Speeding: http://www.city-journal.org/html/racial-profiling-myth-debunked-12244.htmlDelayed Gratification: http://psycnet.apa.org/index.cfm?fa=buy.optionToBuy&id=1972-24694-001IQ, Racial Profiling and Crime: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/256079484_No_evidence_of_racial_discrimination_in_criminal_justice_processing_Results_from_the_National_Longitudinal_Study_of_Adolescent_HealthFreedomain Radio is 100% funded by viewers like you. Please support the show by signing up for a monthly subscription or making a one time donation at: http://www.freedomainradio.com/donate
I'm here with Charles C. Johnson, who is an investigative journalist, author, researcher, and editor-in-chief of a very, very influential website, gotnews.com, which, of course, you can find at gotnews.com, and Beard Thief.
He stole my beard.
So we're going to try and get that back before the end of the show.
Charles, nice to meet you.
How are you doing today?
Great.
You can have the beard back at any time, but you'll have to beat my wife.
She loves it too much.
Okay, so on your website, you have this black hole of information coming in, and I find it on your website sooner than I find it on just about anyone else's website.
I wonder if you can help people to understand just how you're able to get your sort of octopus fingers into so many cool pieces of data and get it out to people.
Cool.
One of the things that we do is we collect interesting people.
So you can email me, editor at gotnews.com.
If you have interesting pieces of information, I'll buy it off of you.
So we built up a network of sources at Got News, which I started about two years ago.
And one of the things we were interested in doing is looking at sort of all of the lies the media tells.
What do they all have in common?
And they are pretty much scientifically illiterate, so they're not aware of human biodiversity.
They're not aware of basic issues.
And so what we do is we typically just break the stories faster.
We do it cheaper.
And so we have people constantly sending us information, and it's now reached a point where whenever there's a major police shooting, within about five minutes I have all of the police officers, their wives, sometimes their girlfriends, sometimes their family members, just sending me material because if there's going to be a monopoly on the truth of police shootings, it might as well be me.
And so it's interesting just...
We use a lot of techniques for searching faster, going through LexisNexis, going through various cop message boards, and going through, of course, criminal background checks.
And then, of course, it's just most of the people who are in the media are older.
My group of people skew probably between the ages of 14 to 29.
And so they've lived their entire lives on the Internet.
And so they're able to just send me material faster.
So for them, mainstream media is like, I'm sorry, what, those annoying ads that my ad blocker blocks?
And you do target ads to particular areas to try and get people to understand how you can broadcast their information worldwide.
That's right.
So one of the things we do is whenever we're working on a particular topic, so for instance, we've done a lot of stuff on Paul Ryan.
And how Paul Ryan and the Puerto Rico deal, how he's been sort of bailing out donors and friends of his.
And this, of course, cuts against his images of fiscal probity that he tries to sell people on.
And so what we do is we just targeted the entire congressional district, put about $1,000 into it.
And I say to people, hey, if you want to target this to a congressional district or you want to target it somewhere, I'll just do it for free or for whatever the cost of Whatever the PayPal ad is, you send the money through PayPal, you then target the Facebook congressional area.
And what tends to happen is you get more inbound information from people who are heavy Facebook users.
And so we'll typically target, like whenever there's a police shooting, we'll target all of the surrounding areas and we'll make sure that the things they like are the police.
Donald Trump seems to be a really big one.
If you ever target anything Donald Trump related, you get a lot of older people.
Particularly women sending you interesting information.
And then among the best people, I occasionally hire them and have them be a part of my larger research operation.
Yeah, Paul Ryan.
I think he's currently the frontrunner for the Alan Greenspan Award for Very, Very Bad Objectivist.
But perhaps we'll circle back onto him.
Maybe, yeah.
Yeah, the big topic at the moment, of course, was the two shootings that happened recently with Philando Castile and Alton Sterling.
And the Sterling one kind of fell apart quickly because of the incredibly length of an orangutan's arm rap sheet that he had and impregnating a 14-year-old girl and all that kind of stuff.
that one.
But the Philando Castile seemed to be sort of tailor-made for, you know, the movement, the anti-cop movement had found its hero, found its shining star because, you know, he worked with kids and he knew all the kids' names and he was in charge of a cafeteria and all the parents loved him.
And so it seemed to be like they'd finally found someone who did not have a pretty lengthy rap sheet and some very questionable personal habits.
And I kind of, you know, I did a video I wanted a little while ago and I kind of held my breath 'cause I'm like, yeah, don't rush to conclusions, Don't jump to conclusions.
But boy, that narrative for Philando Castile does seem to be falling apart.
And of course, I got a lot of the information from you.
I wonder if you could help people understand how there's a real pivot going on with regards to that story.
Sure.
So essentially what happened was I... Most of these police shootings, they start to get politicized late at night.
And the reason that happens is because most of the media is asleep.
This is actually explained to me by somebody who actually works with Black Lives Matter.
And so what they do is they push, they basically spend the whole night awake pushing the narrative of the shooting so that when the journalists wake up in the morning, they sort of have their talking points ready to go.
And it's important just so your audience understands there's not just a political incentive but a financial incentive as well.
Because what ends up happening is that a lot of black activist types, they typically don't share CNN stories.
They typically don't push mainstream media stories unless it's about a police shooting.
So this is a way for CNN and for others to kind of push a sort of more – they can basically say they're getting a larger market share because now they've got a lot of blacks also interested in their content.
So that kind of gives you some sense of like the business decision on why these things become so prominent when they become so prominent.
So what happened was we heard about the Philando Castile story about – Probably about 15 minutes after it happened, people started pushing it around.
We monitor all the Black Lives Matter Twitter page accounts.
And they started pushing it sort of en masse.
They're pushing this concealed carry situation.
Obviously, everyone's seen the footage that was done by Lavish, aka Diamond Reynolds, who has lied about being his girlfriend, lied about all sorts of relationships going on there.
And so that sort of got us started.
And then what we started to do is take the material that we were finding, the 51 pullovers, and just start putting it out to the public on Got News.
And of course, I give a lot of stuff to Mike Cernovich.
I know you know Mike, and so I've given stuff to him in the past.
And so what sort of happened was conservative Treehouse and I were identifying that there had been a "be on the lookout" message.
That was something that went over the COP message boards.
It ultimately ended up in the local media.
It sort of has been ignored in the mainstream media.
But that gives you some background of what's going on.
And, of course, with Philando Castile, they always push a sort of narrative that this guy loved kids.
He always worked with kids.
And, of course, over time you discover that he smokes weed in the car with Lavish Reynolds' daughter.
He likes to drink and drive, and he's got all sorts of other interesting questionable habits as to whether or not he should be around children in the first place.
Well, the concealed carry thing as well, my understanding from the messages that I've received is if you do get a concealed carry permit, you are given specific instructions on what to do if you're pulled over by a cop.
That's right.
So can you help people sort of understand what is the process supposed to be for people who've got CCWs when they're pulled over?
Right.
So the typical situation is when you're pulled over by the police and you have a concealed carry license.
And I've had this happen with friends of mine in the car before, actually.
What you do is you typically give them your license and your concealed carry permit at the same time, just so they know that you're armed, you're strapped, or whatever.
And you typically tell them, hey, you have a gun or what have you.
No.
I thought it was extremely unlikely, given that we had discovered that he was pulled over 51, 52 times.
Lavish Reynolds has told a series of lies about her relationship, said it was her fiancé, it was her boyfriend.
Of course, she said on her Facebook that she's married.
So there's a lot of stuff to make us doubt whether or not she's a truthful witness.
And she's actually, her own mother has said this as well.
A number of people have said that on her own Facebook that she's a liar.
So that gave us sort of some indication.
Now, I mean, what I have been told, and I haven't really put this out yet, kind of to a wider public yet, but what I've been told by the police is that they suspect that she was involved in the July 2nd robbery of the convenience store.
Oh, sorry.
And I'm sorry to interrupt, but let's just sort of bring people up to speed on that to make sure people know where we're coming from.
Yeah, so there was a July 2nd robbery that took place.
There was a gentleman who looked an awful lot like Philando Castile.
Who, with an armed robbery, robbed a convenience store, took, I believe, a carton of Newport cigarettes.
What I found interesting was you can actually match the carton If you take a whole carton, you can actually match it to a local convenience store.
And so I was told by somebody in the Minnesota State Trooper's Office that they had actually done this already with the cigarettes that they later had on Ms.
Castile's vehicle that they had later discovered.
It is possible that he gave the cigarettes to his side woman.
It's possible that she didn't know.
These are all possibilities.
Just because somebody's smoking or having stolen goods, if you don't know they're stolen, we have to be kind of cautious here.
But it doesn't look good, let's put it that way.
But wasn't her car also considered to be matching a description of a car that was fleeing the scene?
That's right.
So the license plate number, I mean, all of that is consistent.
And in fact, a lot of people have made a big deal about the broken taillight, that the police said that that's why he's pulling over.
Now, I've heard in the past that police officers will actually say, we're pulling you over for a broken taillight.
They'll actually lie to the person if they suspect that this person's actually involved in a larger crime, because that way it doesn't raise suspicions.
And so this is not an uncommon thing for them to do.
Now, is it totally ethical and honorable to lie to someone?
Well, I guess it sort of depends on your point of view there, but it does happen.
Right.
So, yeah, it's a very good point, of course, about, you know, there's still a movement influx and nothing can be known for certain.
But given the similarities in looks between the man involved in the robbery and Philando Castile, it would be reasonable, I would say.
And of course, this is what the policeman said, that he was pulling over the car because of The similarity to the Beyond the Lookout suspect in that particular robbery, and that's what was going on.
Now, of course, if that's the case, then he is going to approach that car with a heightened sense of suspicion as opposed to merely a broken taillight.
That's right.
And it's also possible that he doesn't want to raise the alarms of the people he's pulling over.
So that's why he's making it about a broken taillight.
That's why he's trying to be very calm.
Obviously, if the person who robbed the place was armed when they robbed the place, it's possible that there could have been gunfire exchange.
So you already have a police officer that the suspicion – He's heightened.
He's by himself.
There's all sorts of problems that emerge when he's dealing with what would seem a routine pullover.
It's important to also understand here I know that your audience is sort of, I guess we'll call them race realists, or at least aware of the statistical differences between the racial populations.
And there have been a number of studies about how blacks speed more often, how they drink while they're driving.
Lavish Reynolds, we know, has talked about their videos of her smoking weed with Castile in the car while her four-year-old daughter's in the car.
There are videos of them drinking together while they're driving.
And she's pregnant, by the way, which is kind of Not a good way to start your life.
Not a good way to start the life of a new child.
But that could also be a reason that somebody was pulled over or driving erratically, that sort of thing.
Well, and...
Given that, you know, she admitted that they had weed in the car, given that it does seem to be the case that he had a weapon which at least the local sheriff's office had was not applied for as a concealed carry, and given that they may have been high at the time, even if it was a complete mistake and he had nothing to do with this robbery, he's going to get in trouble with the cop pulling him over.
You're already in an escalated situation just based on what's been admitted to have occurred within the car.
That's right.
And I think it's interesting, too, just to watch kind of the dispassionate way in which the video is filmed, because I've unfortunately been around a lot of very high people in my life, and they have a certain mannerism that you can kind of tell.
And so a lot of people are applauding her calm when she was pulled over.
That was the issue that was made.
Mia made a lot of attention of on Good Morning America.
And I think it's very possible that she was high while she was recording, live streaming the shooting out to everyone else.
And of course, it's always interesting when these videos are presented, they're almost never presented the full context.
There's sort of always something that's cut out, or there's something that sort of starts on media res.
And so it's always...
We have to be very careful on the video presentation of things.
And I think that it's just something that's worthwhile.
I mean, we've now done...
Probably done close to like 50 or 60 investigations of all these different police shootings.
And at a certain point, they start to fit a sort of pattern.
Sort of like when you trade a lot of stock, you sort of get this intuitive sense of the market.
Or if you trade a lot of stuff on PredictIt, as my team does, you get sort of an intuitive sense of who's likely to be certain candidates.
And just statistically speaking...
I would probably put it at an 85 to 95 range as to whether or not Castile is the actual robber in this particular case.
If it's too many patterns, if you take all these events as separate rather than as part of a larger pattern, it's just statistically extremely unlikely that the bolo would match, the license would match the drug issue.
And of course, he said in the past that he was upset That he didn't make much money during the summertime because that's when school was not in session.
And, of course, I don't think working at a cafeteria pays very much.
And, of course, it's also interesting.
All the positive things said about him is that he gave all this free food to school kids.
Well, you know, who was paying for that free food?
It's a bit easy to be charitable with the taxpayers' largesse when it comes to...
But enough about the Democrat Party.
Sorry, go ahead.
Yeah, I mean, obviously, it's...
It's interesting, right?
And of course, there's always this attention.
This person's always a good person.
And then, of course, you discover pulled over 51 times.
And now, of course, both the sort of libertarian anti-cop media as well as the anti-cop media generally are saying, oh, well, he was targeted because he's black and he was pulled over all these times.
Well, again, we know that there's a higher likelihood of black speeding.
We know that there's a time preference problem.
Well, and this...
Great challenge that the alternative media, which I think now is just basically the honest media, the great challenge drives me crazy.
And so many people from across the spectrum have talked about this issue.
And of course, we get countless messages, I'm sure you do along these lines, which is...
All disparities in racial statistics must be due to racism.
When you get these narratives, you get dragged in their wake, like sort of unwilling on their heads water skiers.
You get all of these tertiary statistics that come along.
So people will sort of send to me and say, well, you know, but blacks get arrested at higher rates or blacks get shot at higher rates than proportional to their population.
It's like, okay, yes, of course.
But you have to normalize by crime statistics and then you can start to look at things.
And by crime statistics, normalized by crime statistics, blacks are not any more likely to get shot by police than whites.
And so there's all of this mess and it just takes one basic fundamental definition.
Expostulation of facts to undo this narrative and just say, well, just normalize by crime statistics.
And then, of course, people say, well, why are they committing higher crimes?
You know, there's a culture, there's genetics involved.
Well, that's an open-ended question.
We still need to explore that as a society.
But just this magic wand of racism explaining all discrepancies between all groups, except for Asians, that is something that really needs to be examined because what happens is this narrative Of, you know, racist, evil cops, although one guy appears to be Asian and the other guy, I think, is Latino.
But nonetheless, it's white racism because honorary promotion.
But the way that it works is this lie gets out, gets broadcast all over the place, and then by the time the truth comes out...
It's all deeply embedded.
You still see this hands up, don't shoot, which turned out to be a complete falsehood from the Mike Brown shooting.
We did a lot of work on that at Cut News back in the day, too.
Yeah, I remember.
No, it's always somewhat a fraud.
I mean, one of the problems that we have not figured out how to discuss openly is average IQ in the black community in the United States is 85.
Among white Europeans, I think it's 100 to 105.
And so there's basically a statistical, you know, there's a, how do you put it, a standard deviation between the IQs.
And we know that lower IQ people have, you know, much more crimogenic behavior.
So if you just look at it just on an IQ level, rather than on a, and you just normalize for IQ, you can solve, you can account for a lot of this variance.
One of the other issues, too, is that blacks in the United States are concentrated in our major cities, whereas there's sort of poor whites who are, you know, low IQ or out-smoking I've shown people the imprisonment rates among blacks in Canada, which is much higher than you would expect relative to their population, also in Britain as well.
What I always say to people is, well, have you considered the possibility that certain racial groups are just more crimogenic or that they just commit more crimes?
And what's interesting is how some of them will say immediately, oh, yes, but we can't talk about this.
It's like, well, why not?
And the second one is, no, I actually had never thought of that before.
Because there's this sort of animating...
Assumption that all humans are the same, that race is just pigmentation, rather than actually a much larger phenomenon.
And I do think a cultural element is part of it as well.
Obviously, you've talked about the difference between R-selected and K-selected behavior, and I think that explains an awful lot of behavior we see in the black community.
You know, fathering children off of multiple women, this is not exactly conducive to good family formation.
Yeah.
Well, but of course, that is in combination with the welfare state, right?
I mean, black and white fatherlessness used to be much closer.
It used to be less, right?
Black fatherlessness and the disintegration of the black family used to be much less in the past.
The black family was much stronger.
But when you combine the welfare state with other factors, you do tend to get this explosion of fatherlessness and all of the associated problems, particularly for the male youth, which you get this cultural nihilism coming out of all of that.
Right, and usually it's much more, the lower IQ on average people are harmed the most by the welfare state.
But it is interesting that there's apparently debate as to whether or not the black family that we kind of hold up in the 1950s, 1960s, whether or not that was just a historical abnormality.
So people have looked at black family formation post-Civil War among slaves, and they've seen that it's actually much more comparable to the current day.
It's kind of unclear to me whether or not that's certainly an area of open inquiry.
But in any event, this is sort of like the larger kind of cultural issues being discussed.
And I've always been very fascinated with police shootings and with riots generally, in part because when I first moved to Los Angeles, I met a number of people who had been involved in the Koreatown riots.
I guess 1992 now.
I actually went and interviewed a number of Korean shopkeepers who had to defend their property when the government collapsed.
It was always interesting to me.
The whole argument against having a firearm was, oh, the police will protect you, the military will protect you.
Of course, we know of...
And then later, I did a lot of the research on George Zimmerman, was breaking a lot of stuff related to that story, and later met George Zimmerman.
And the story that he told, and the evidence that he gave me and showed me, and others showed me who were around him, showed me that basically everything I had been told on the George Zimmerman thing was more or less a lie from beginning to end.
And of course, we know why.
I mean, in the United States, it's All these things happen in election year.
It's a way to basically drive up black vote.
They tried to do this in 2014.
It more or less failed because they didn't have a black person on the ticket.
And I suspect it will fail again this time as well.
But it is interesting just how emotional these issues get.
And you can try persuading people, you can try showing them the facts, but I tend to think that they're between 10 and 15% of the population that's persuadable on this stuff.
That most of the people, it's just an emotional issue in the final analysis.
And what they do is they go and they put themselves in the position of having dealt with the police, and most people's encounters with the police, particularly the young, are not always so great.
Yeah.
They're pulling you over for speeding or for some sort of...
By the way, I found a trick away from this, which is put a Police Lives Matter sticker on your car, which I did about two years ago.
I'm a terrible driver.
I probably shouldn't have my license.
But I put a Police Lives Matter sticker.
And I've actually now been pulled over by the police to thank me for having the sticker.
So I recommend it if you're a bad driver, but in any event.
Well, I think it's...
It's the general habit that a lot of people have, which is to attempt to postpone any particular unpleasantness later.
And of course, all that does is it means that the unpleasantness is going to be far greater, both in the now and in the future.
If we can start talking about racial differences openly, maybe there's a solution, maybe there are facts involved.
And I think that saying that, well, I don't know, maybe...
Blacks can't handle this conversation.
That, to me, is the most racist statement of all.
We can look at these situations.
We can try and figure out solutions and denying the capacity of society to talk about basic biological facts.
And for those who are startled by this, this has been, of course, recorded.
The IQ discrepancies between racial groups have been recorded for over 100 years.
And the American Psychological Association has verified it.
There's, of course, a great book called The Bell Curve where you can find out more information that came out in the 90s.
But there is this steadfast focus on keeping this information from the general public because the mainstream media is no longer interested in informing us but in manipulating and controlling us in particular for the advantage of the Democrat Party as a whole.
And this is very frustrating because we do want to be able to grapple and solve and deal with these issues, but the further we stray from basic facts and realities, the worse society is going to get in the long run.
That's right.
And I would recommend two other books, too, 10,000-Year Explosion, which was quite good by Gregory Cochran and Henry Harpening, and also Nicholas Wade's new book, I guess two years old now, Troublesome Inheritance, which are more scientifically informed than Murray and Hernstein's book, which I guess came out in 1994.
By the way, it's the only book that Barack Obama has ever reviewed that we know of, despite being a writer.
And he attacked it in NPR in 1994 as a racist book, which is, if that's not an endorsement, I don't know what is.
I said to Murray at one point he should try and put that on the blurb for the book, that Barack Obama attacked it and see if it affects book sales.
It continues to sell to this day.
But yeah, the basic problem is There are people who are willing to deal with the world as it is, and there are people who are willing to deal with the world as they wish it to be.
Now, I don't particularly like having red hair, but I was born with it.
If you have red hair, it's linked with all sorts of things like high pain toleration.
I got my genome sequence.
I have three times the likelihood of venous thromboembolism, which leads to strokes, and I have the gene for rapid caffeine metabolism, which explains why it takes me a lot more caffeine to get the same effect.
We humans are very different from one another.
Our society has created this idea that we're all the same, that we're all equal.
What ends up happening a lot of the times is I think we're good to go.
Just like they don't have much experience dealing with Indian reservations or with other lower class, lower IQ groups.
My attitude is I don't particularly care if it hurts blacks or helps whites or helps whites.
I just care what the truth is.
For me, I am a betting man.
I do spend a lot of time studying the market, studying predicted, studying all these different things.
For me, at a certain point, my attitude is just from a business decision.
I think the truth is very valuable.
People donate to me at Got News.
People support me.
It's quite nice to have people join the research effort.
involved in Slack and on Twitter, you know, trying to find out what's really going on.
And my view has always been that there are three groups sort of screwing us, you know, those of us who believe in the truth.
And it's the media, it's the so-called education classes, and of course the government.
And the media, once the media falls, and it's at like 6% confidence right now, once it collapses, you know, what's happening is that it's becoming so cheap to produce your own content now the people themselves are becoming the media.
And they're debunking in real time all these various media lies.
And so what's happened is the media gets lower and lower and lower credibility.
I think he understands some of this, and I think people are starting to understand just how much of this game is designed to lie to you and try to sell you things that you don't need through clickbaiting and advertisement, rather than that which is true.
Well, I mean, that's a fascinating thing with Trump.
And I think it's under discussed.
But to the degree to which, of course, he's got I don't know how many bazillions of Twitter followers and so on.
But the degree to which he's openly and has, I guess, for quite some time now, openly and publicly calling the media a bunch of manipulative liars.
And I think that he's really the most prominent person.
Who's been able to get that narrative across to the most people.
And, uh, I think that's quite fascinating and watch this deconstruction of a narrative in real time.
You know, it's hard to build sort of your evil house of falsehood worship if people are just pulling the foundations apart.
Yeah.
So, so I think, you know, I invite people to join me, you know, email me at editor at got news.
Of course I'm banned from Twitter in part because I was trying to expose black lives matter founder, Dre McKesson, who is, uh, connected to Jack Dorsey.
It's a rumor that they date, which is, of course, a great conflict of interest when it comes to censorship issues.
But, of course, when people are debunking these things in real time, like what happened with the Michelle Field situation, there are certain stories that end up where the public at large knows the truth independent of the narrative that the media is pushing.
And it's been fascinating watching sort of the right-wing media is starting to go after these, go after the left-wing media, but now the right-wing media has its own biases.
And what's interesting is watching the public at large go after both of them.
It's very encouraging for self-government long-term because basically the media is designed to perpetuate public opinion, and public opinion is so important in republics, at least in theory.
And so what ends up happening is they basically try and manipulate many of us into frauds.
And it's a form of basically tyranny.
But I'm very encouraged by how many people are constantly sending me videos, constantly sending me material in real time.
And then of course we get it up and...
CNN has the opposite story, and then CNN's proven wrong, and I don't know how you can continue to be wrong so often and stay in business for so long.
But nonetheless, this is an interesting phenomenon of the modern age.
It's great to have these.
This is a fascinating moment because there just tend to be these kinds of cycles of history.
There's a rise and then there's a fall.
As the old saying goes, civilizations rise in hotmail boots and descend in silk slippers.
Civilization protects weakness and taxes strength and inevitably saps.
And because we have this amazing communications technology, we can actually sort of try and put the brakes on this grim, giant stone wheel of history.
It's sort of like the beginning of the first Indiana Jones movie, that big giant ball run.
We're just standing there like the Tiananmen Square guy in front of tanks saying we don't have to descend into lies and chaos.
There is the capacity now to disassemble the dissembling and to stand in the face of falsehood and get the truth out there.
And it is going to be fascinating to see whether we win all the lies.
Yeah, I think that basically the problem is that if you've ever worked in a newsroom as I have in the past, what ends up happening is there are about 15 to 20 people who decide in the newsroom what is news.
And right now the public at large is voting with their clicks, they're voting with their dollars, they're voting with their attention, most importantly.
And they're just saying, no, the newsroom is the whole world.
We're going to decide what we're going to cover, what we're going to be focused on.
And I just don't know how long you can persist I'm very encouraged to see the people who come out of the woodwork to help on these sorts of things.
I've had police officers send me things.
I've had members of Congress send me things.
I'm just a dude with a website.
It's interesting, too, just watching particularly the effect of this show.
Watching just how many people that I encounter just out in the wild, you know, in the real world as well as in the virtual world who have been very inspired by, you know, by philosophical concepts and have begun sort of waking up and thinking for themselves on issues and sort of taking responsibility both for their own education and for their own, you know, information sources.
And it's very encouraging.
Though I suspect it...
What will ultimately happen is that they'll try and regulate the internet in some form or fashion because the empire sort of always strikes back.
And so I suspect that...
I'm surprised, for instance, that this...
I have been kicked off of Twitter.
I've had, I think, seven or eight denial-of-service attacks against my site.
I'm surprised...
I've been kicked off of Facebook.
They deleted my Facebook account at one point.
And I'm surprised that you guys sort of haven't been Kicked off of YouTube yet, just given how many sort of a red pill pharmacy this show is.
But we'll see.
We'll see.
Well, so just a reminder that you can go and get Charles' work at gotnews.com.
And just a reminder, he does, of course, rely on...