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	Hello, hello, everybody.
	It's Stefan Rolini from Free Domain Radio.
	Hope you're doing well.
	So, yes, it was a great and intense set of questions in the call-in show.
	And the first was a fellow calling in from Greece.
	He's a smart guy, well-educated, and he knows he's got a good set of horsepower between his ears.
	He says, Based on my IQ. And we talked a little bit about that, what you can and can't plan, at least in my opinion, based on your intelligence.
	And then we switched to the fall of Greece, the first domino that may bring down Europe as a whole.
	His experience of the migrants, what's going on there, what the view from the ground is.
	Fascinating, fascinating chat.
	And really, really appreciated that.
	A second question, oh, we're talking about sex, baby, and is there such a thing as an inborn or genetic preference when it comes to a sexual partner?
	Well, the oft-quoted, we gotta have chemistry to make the beast with two backs, and we talked about where sexual preferences might come from, biologically, culturally, and from an evolutionary standpoint.
	Number three, third question, property rights, can people move to unowned land?
	Or on owned land without permission from a third party without the state.
	And yeah, we ended up talking about Israel, which I thought was quite interesting.
	It's a really great show, freedomainradio.com slash donate to help us out.
	As always, thank you so much for listening.
	Enjoy.
	All right.
	Well, up first is Jim.
	Jim wrote in and said, Can I plan my life based on my IQ? For example, can I manage my expectations for my future self or my future economics through my IQ score?
	That's from Jim.
	Well, hello, Jim.
	How are you doing?
	Hello.
	I'm pretty anxious, but I'm doing well.
	All right.
	So, do you think you have a high IQ? I have 126.
	Oh good!
	Glad to hear it!
	And so, do you feel that there's a profession that you would like to pursue that your IQ might not give you the latitude to pursue?
	I don't know.
	I just got my mathematics degree yesterday.
	The last subject came.
	And now I'm a mathematician.
	I would like to work on finance and mathematical modeling.
	I don't know if I have problem working there.
	I think I can work there.
	Right.
	Now, I've heard, just so you know, I've heard sort of two arguments around this.
	The first is that it doesn't matter how high your IQ is after a certain point.
	I don't know what that cutoff is.
	For some, it's, you know, sort of 100, 120, that kind of thing.
	And after that, it doesn't really matter what your IQ is because you can do just about anything you want.
	Now, other people have said that it does actually matter what your IQ is above That certain amount.
	So I don't know what the answer is at all.
	And so it seems to me that where you are and with the skills that you have, there shouldn't really be anything that you can't achieve if you want, if that makes any sense.
	Yes, it makes some sense.
	I would like, I think, If I am in a workplace, how quickly am I going to raise there?
	What are my expectations on that place?
	You mean how quickly?
	Where do you want to get in your career?
	Where do you want to get to?
	I would like to make a lot of money.
	That's the truth.
	I have my girlfriend and we're planning to marry and go abroad.
	And have 30 children and she will stay with them and that will work.
	So we need a lot of money, a lot of cheese.
	And what does your girlfriend do?
	My girlfriend is not currently working, me neither.
	No, but what does she do?
	What she trained for?
	She trained on languages.
	She knows Russian, Bulgarian, Greek, English, French.
	Right, so what will she be doing with that skill set?
	We don't know.
	We have no idea.
	Now I just finished and I'm starting sending my resume in different companies and wherever I go she comes with me.
	Okay.
	When do you want to get married?
	How long until you get married?
	This year, in some months.
	And how long have you been going out with your girlfriend?
	Four years.
	Four years, okay.
	And have you always wanted to make a lot of money?
	I want to have an easy going life.
	I don't want to be tough on everyday things.
	Forever I would like to make a lot of money from when I was a kid.
	And do you guys want to have kids?
	Yes, three kids.
	Three kids, alright.
	And when is that going to start, do you think?
	After my therapy and hair therapy is finished and completed in about three years from now and have some financial security.
	So we're planning about three, four years from now.
	Fantastic.
	Fantastic.
	Okay.
	Well, do you feel that your girlfriend is as smart as you are?
	Yes, she's 123 IQ. Fantastic.
	Okay.
	So it seems that there wouldn't be anything that you can't achieve.
	It sounds like you have a fast enough car.
	Now I guess you just need to be a, quote, good enough driver.
	And of course, that's what philosophy is aiming to bring to people's lives, right?
	That they can be good drivers if they already have fast cars.
	Fantastic.
	And even if you don't, it's good to be a...
	A good driver no matter what.
	So when it comes to how far you can go and how quickly you can go in your environment, that's up to you, right?
	So it doesn't sound like there are any particular hardware limits.
	Now it's just a matter of if you're doing therapy, then you're going to have the self-knowledge and so on.
	Are you going to be entrepreneurial enough?
	I assume if you really want to make a lot of money, at some point you might want to start your own company.
	Which means you're going to need emotional skills and leadership skills, but you'll get a lot of those out of therapy.
	So it seems to me that you've got it made, as long as, of course, you're willing to do all the work and make the sacrifices that are necessary to achieve a significant amount of wealth.
	That's really good.
	I hope so.
	All right.
	Is there anything else that you wanted to ask?
	I don't know if there's anything else.
	I'm still pretty anxious, so...
	Okay.
	Well, that's fine.
	Listen, I mean, congratulations.
	It sounds like you guys are all set to roll, and it sounds like you're going to have a great life.
	It's interesting.
	Do you know if a lot of smart people are leaving Greece at the moment?
	All of the smart people are leaving Greece.
	All of the smart people are leaving Greece.
	Oh, dear.
	Oh, dear.
	I was in a really good school, a private school, and most of my friends are left already and the remaining are planning to leave.
	So, no one's here.
	And what are the primary things that are making you want to leave Greece at the moment?
	I always wanted to leave Greece.
	Okay, but is it accelerating more recently?
	Now I don't have a choice.
	Now I don't have a choice.
	The unemployment rate is 95% or something.
	You can take a job only, a waiter or something like this, or a doorman in a club, something like this.
	You can have a real job.
	You can have a career here.
	So it's not a choice anymore.
	But we always wanted to live.
	It's the mentality of the people here pretty disturbing.
	They don't want to work.
	They want to be in the public sector.
	2000 to 2009, when the economy was booming, everyone tried to take a place in the public sector.
	They were going to the politicians and said, please take my daughter or my son or my nephew and make him a public worker.
	And the mentality is like this, go to the public.
	Well, it's good if you're not that smart and the public sector is a big step up in terms of your capacity to make money, then it's probably a pretty good deal, right?
	Yes, it is.
	But not only the dumb people who want to go there, also the smarter people who want to go there.
	And the average person wants to go there.
	Is there no particular goal or desire for entrepreneurship?
	Even if you have, now you can't open a store.
	Right now, the whole country, the roads are not working because they want to change the tax code and pay huge taxes.
	It is crazy.
	You can't open anything here.
	It's really tough.
	All the companies went to Bulgaria, even Albania.
	They're leaving Greece for years, from the 2009-10.
	Everyone left.
	Everyone who could move their business abroad, they moved it.
	Right.
	And is there any sense that the smart people are leaving the country, that there's desperation?
	Like, of the people who remain, is there a sense of, like, everybody's getting off the Titanic and, you know, we're down here in the boiler rooms?
	The people who are staying here, and mostly the older guys, they say, no, you should not leave the country.
	Stay here and fight for your country.
	Why do you laugh at that?
	Do you think that's impossible?
	It's not only possible, but they made the country as it is now and they are asking for us to stay here and make it good again.
	Do you think they just want you to stick around because they need their pensions?
	Of course, they need the patience, but I don't think that they know that we have to stay here to get their patience.
	I think they have in their mind that their money is coming from somewhere, like the rain.
	They don't understand how the money comes.
	I have that feeling.
	The average Greek guy don't understand how the economics work.
	Well, I guess they understand how their personal economics work, right?
	They understand that...
	They want to make more money than the market would probably otherwise provide them by being in the public sector, but I guess it's just magic money that somehow comes into their bank accounts, and they probably have some dim sense that it's people like you who need to stick around to pay what they want, but the conditions necessary for you to stay probably remain a bit unclear to them, like what you would need, like what would you need in Greece to stay?
	Opportunity to work.
	And not only that, even if I had the opportunity to work, I would have left anyways.
	Because it's the mentality here.
	How the people are working in their everyday life.
	Whatever happens, they don't take responsibility for themselves.
	It's always someone else's fault.
	Even I made a small research and I saw that in every election until 2010 or something like this, everyone in Greece, 99% or more, were voting.
	So everyone was voting here.
	And after that, from the 2010 and after, everyone says, Oh, all these politicians came and took our money and corrupted our country.
	And these politicians came out of the people.
	And now the people say these politicians are really bad.
	They don't understand that they voted for them for the last 30 years.
	And all of them.
	So, it's how the people...
	What is working?
	What do they have in their mind?
	I think the Greek crisis will continue for many years, until the medium Greek guy understands that socialism doesn't work.
	Yeah, it's a bit of a death spiral because as the smart people leave, the dumb people who are left tend to vote for more and more socialistic policies.
	And that drives more of the smart people out.
	And the only way to reverse that cycle is to have the smart people come back But the less intelligent the voting population is, the less likely any smart people are to ever come back.
	I mean, you know, what would it take for you if you're overseas, you've set up your career, you've got your kids, they're in school, they've got their friends, you've got your friends, you're in your neighborhood.
	What would it take for you then, after 10 years, to move back to Greece and feel that you could be secure and that it was a great decision?
	I mean, it would take a lot, right?
	Well, I'm not sure if it can happen.
	I don't know how I can be sure to come back.
	And why to come back?
	If I have my family there, my friends there, why should I come back?
	Yeah, and what if they're just luring you back?
	What if they're just luring you back with a little bit of freedom?
	And then, after they give you a little bit of freedom, they'll take it away!
	I mean, why would you want to risk that, right?
	Yes.
	I can find something to come back.
	And this cycle literally can go on for like a thousand years sometimes.
	And the tragedy is it takes a giant war or a famine or a plague or something like that to clear off the deadwood so that smart people can re-emerge.
	I mean, I don't want any of that.
	It's just a historical fact that once the less intelligent get their death grip on the political system, you know, it's hard enough to change the minds of smart people.
	I mean, try changing the minds of dull people and you might as well try to talk a tree into learning how to fly.
	They have to feel the pain.
	Yeah.
	They don't learn for reasons, so they have to learn through suffering, like every addict.
	Now, how is the migrant stuff showing up for you guys these days?
	Oh, that's a huge problem.
	That's a huge problem.
	Last week, or last month, I don't remember exactly, they wanted to move thousands of immigrants close to my girlfriend's house.
	Thousands of people, I think 2,000 people, went there to protest against the migrants.
	And the television said it was only 60 people.
	And there were 2,000.
	And the papers wrote that there were 200.
	And the gypsies here said that if you bring immigrants here, we will kill them one by one.
	So it is pretty tough.
	And I'm in the second biggest city here.
	And we have plenty of immigrants years now.
	But in Athens, it's much, much worse.
	Much, much worse.
	You can't even think about it.
	The center of Athens, you can't go there.
	You can't go in the center of Athens.
	What do you mean you can't go?
	Why?
	There are no white people.
	There are minority there.
	But what happens if white people go into the center of Athens?
	Plenty of robes.
	In the past years, now I have no idea.
	The last year, I have no idea what's happening there.
	I had a friend who lived in the center of Athens.
	Now he moved.
	So I don't take everyday information on the center of Athens.
	But in the last years, it was pretty, pretty bad with robes.
	A rob happened in front of me.
	I went there for two days and there was a woman, someone took her purse.
	Now there are even more immigrants there and there's a great problem.
	They even go to the streets, they camp there, they camp in the streets, in the squares.
	It's a really big problem.
	Yeah, and it's just sort of struck me, of course, a lot of these people are going to come across with medical problems, with dental problems and so on, so they must be pushing aside some of the native Greeks who actually just want to get to a dentist or a hospital or a doctor, right?
	I mean, isn't there a lot of standing in line now that there may not have been as much of before?
	The hospitals here are really bad anyway, so I don't think it makes a big difference.
	No one, no one, if you can't, if you have the money to go on the private hospital, you go on the private hospital.
	If you don't have the money, you pray and go to a public hospital.
	They're really bad.
	If you Google and see some photos, you will understand.
	Right, right.
	What do you think is going to happen going forward in this situation, this environment?
	Okay, the golden race, the party, the Nazi party.
	Nazis, really?
	Nazis?
	Yes, that's how they call them.
	Okay, hang on, hang on.
	That's how they're called.
	I don't think you want to...
	Like, you told me that it was 200.
	The media reported 200 when it was 2,000.
	So you wouldn't want to use the Nazi media for this?
	The leader of the party has a swastika in his arm.
	Oh, so they are genuine Nazis, right?
	So the swastika is the whole deal, right?
	Yes, they draw swastikas.
	They're not just called Nazis, like everyone who's not a total cuck is called a Nazi in Europe.
	So, okay.
	When someone calls them Nazi, they say, no, we are not Nazi, we love Greeks and things like this, but they have swastikas all over their bodies.
	Maybe they're using the Tibetan swastika, which means peace of mind, rather than...
	Something like this.
	I think they are going to...
	They will be in power in some years, and...
	There are other voting many times.
	I have a friend who was in the last election and he said that plenty of votes for that party went to the garbage.
	So I think they are going to...
	Sorry, wait, to the where?
	To the garbage.
	They said that it's not valid or something like this.
	Okay.
	They were valid, but they said it's not valid because it has one hair inside.
	Something like this.
	Really stupid things.
	Right.
	Well, I mean, of course, the longer this discussion is suppressed, the more ugly its eventual manifestation is going to be.
	Like, if you push people down, you don't listen to them, you lie to them and you manipulate them, you call them evil for bringing up what are not illegitimate concerns, the longer that necessary discussion And it's like,
	no, the fact that you didn't let people speak, that you shouted them down, manipulated and lied to them, is why you've ended up in this situation.
	But of course, people, what do they believe, right?
	People in the street, when somebody calls them from the television and asks them what they think they say, it is really terrible.
	And they say to them why it is terrible and things like this.
	And they say, look, if you like them, come live where we live.
	Don't live in the good neighborhoods you are currently living.
	Come and live with us, with the immigrants, if you like them so much.
	Most of the people understand what happens, but those who live in more secure areas, they say, oh, the immigrants, we should not be tough on them, and they have the war, that's why they left their country, and there are people like us, and things like this.
	Yeah, I generally don't worry about sharks when I'm not swimming in the sea.
	If I'm far up on the beach, I don't look for fins in the sand.
	I get it.
	But when people are closer, they...
	And there were, of course, people who used to live or work or want to spend a lot of time in the center of Athens, and now they can't go.
	That's for years now.
	The center of Athens is becoming a ghetto from, I don't know, 2000 or something.
	It's really a story, really old.
	Well, it's funny because the economic warfare that was practiced by the Islamists against Europe, and in particular against America, that was fought by luring the Americans and the British and the French, I suppose, as well, into these unwinnable wars in the Middle East, right?
	The graveyard of empires, as it's been called.
	This economic warfare that was waged against the West has moved from military to welfare, in that they are going to They're coming to Europe and they're going to lean on the welfare state until the European governments come crashing down.
	It is a revolutionary act.
	And I think people are just not...
	They don't understand this.
	this.
	They don't seem to have any clue about this at all, the degree to which it is a form of economic warfare to swarm into a country, to squat on the welfare state, to consume resources until the state collapses.
	And this is the price, of course, of having a welfare state.
	It's like setting out a big plate of honey and then wondering why you're covered in flies.
	Yes.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Alright.
	Well, listen, it sounds like with your skills and abilities, there's not a huge amount for you to do there.
	I was just cognizant of the fact that I just talked to a German guy where I said stay and fight.
	Do you think there's anything that you can do to change things around with your...
	Skills in rhetoric and argumentation and intelligence.
	Is there anything that you feel you can get any traction at all?
	I mean, when you bring these topics up, I know in private, the Europeans, like the white Europeans, are probably mostly saying, this is not good, right?
	This is not like, yay, right?
	But in public, of course, they're afraid of the negative repercussions of the politically correct Lefty, Sharia-style mobs that run around screaming at anyone who dares utter an honest and accurate sentiment.
	So do you think that there's any way to take these private thoughts into some sort of public action in Europe?
	Or is it just going to have to play itself out?
	I don't know, but I think in Greece this is not happening so much.
	The media says the poor immigrants, but almost everyone, most of the people, I think, I don't know.
	This is my experience.
	I understand that the immigrants are a really difficult situation.
	It is already mainstream.
	That's what I'm taking.
	I'm not sure if that's the whole truth.
	Is there a political sentiment or party that's emerging in Greece that is, I don't know, pro-Hellenic, that is not so keen on having all the migrants in, but also doesn't have swastikas?
	I mean, you know, somewhere not in sort of crazy evil totalitarian territory.
	Is there anything emerging that...
	I don't want to say a compromise because that sounds like halfway to Nazism.
	That's not a good way of putting it or an accurate reflection of what I'm thinking.
	But is there anything emerging that is more for maintaining the existing culture and less with the swastikas?
	The last five, six years ago, it was one, an old party.
	It had something like 5% but after 2010 it closed and the voters went to golden race or something like this.
	They went in other parties.
	Because it wasn't radical enough, I think.
	I don't know.
	But there is no such a party.
	New Democracy said We're saying that we will do something for the immigrants for years now, not the last year, because they're not in power.
	But they didn't do anything, I think.
	To my knowledge, they didn't do anything.
	They're just saying, saying, saying, but not doing.
	Well, and of course, as all the smart people leave the country, bringing deferral of gratification, seeing the unseen, hidden costs, visible benefits of...
	Free market economics to an increasingly retarded population just gets harder and harder.
	Like as all the smart people leave your school, higher mathematics takes a bit of a blow.
	So if you would have found a party on sort of classical liberal ideas and you've got a population which is sinking down below 90 in IQ... I never heard the libertarian idea here in Greece.
	Not in television, not in papers, not in private conversations.
	Never once.
	I learned about libertarianism when I went to a seminar in Bulgaria, summer seminar, for one week.
	And there I find what it is to be libertarian.
	For the first time, I had no idea.
	The statism is for sure.
	Everyone is a statist, but they argue how the state should work.
	That's the only argument.
	Yeah, which way to point the gun, not should there be a gun?
	Yes, yes, yes.
	And I started Libertarian Ideas through internet, through YouTube.
	Oh, yeah?
	Okay.
	Do you still have that channel?
	I saw Friedman, the Free to Choose series.
	That was one of the first.
	Oh, you saw it.
	I thought you had a channel on YouTube, but these are things that you saw on YouTube.
	Okay.
	I learned through YouTube.
	Right.
	Okay, okay.
	Well, fascinating stuff.
	You know, I'm a big one for a stay and fight if there's, you know, any possibility.
	But if...
	There's no possibility, then you're just throwing yourself off a cliff without a parachute.
	So, I'm all for risk, but not for self-immolation.
	So, yeah, best of luck to you, man.
	I hope you have more than three kids.
	Let's get this gene spreading, man.
	Even if I want to stay, I can't have a job, so...
	The mathematicians get paid 4 euros per hour.
	Oh, what can you say?
	All right.
	Well, listen, best of luck and move on to the next caller, but thanks for calling in.
	Keep us posted, man.
	Let us know how you're doing.
	It's great to find out about this stuff.
	Thank you.
	Thank you for your job.
	Thanks, man.
	Alright, up next is Dan1.
	Dan wrote in and said, Is there such a thing as an inborn genetic preference when it comes to a sexual partner, or is it environmental conditioning and or past experiences?
	Do you unconsciously prefer choosing partners who are genetically different from them based on looks, smell, etc., so that they can produce healthy offspring?
	Furthermore, is there such a thing as a soulmate when it comes to relationships?
	That's from Dan.
	Hmm.
	Hey Dan, how are you doing?
	I'm doing well.
	How are you doing?
	Well, so in your experience, Dan, when you meet, I'm going to just go with woman here, when you meet a woman, do you find that there's sort of an instant chemistry or not, or do you find that it happens more slowly over time, as far as sexual attraction goes?
	Right, so I think it is pretty obvious from the beginning, if there is an attraction Or if there is not.
	And what do you find that to be based on, in your experience?
	Well, first of all, it's appearance, so maybe bodily features, and then also behavior, let's say.
	And what I've found for me personally, smell is really It's maybe number one, even if the person looks really good, but the smell is not appealing.
	It kind of disqualifies it for me.
	Right.
	Okay.
	So when you say to a woman, you're just too funky for me, it doesn't mean that she's a wicked disco dancer.
	It just means that she might smell like a berquet full of old cheese.
	All right.
	Right.
	And I think that's maybe that's preset So my body basically tells me if that human being is compatible with me or not.
	Yeah, there does seem to be some evidence that who we are attracted to at the chemistry level has a good deal of genetic similarity enough.
	But not so much genetic similarity that you're going to start copying bad genes and end up with recessive problems and so on.
	So, yeah, I think that there is the degree to which even personality is genetic.
	So personality types tend to mesh.
	And when you say, well, I feel comfortable with an introvert, in a lot of ways what you're saying is that my gene set is compatible with the gene set that produces introverts.
	And, of course, every gene set is trying to survive.
	And so every gene set is going to produce pharognomes and visual cues and emotional cues that are going to draw you more to that which is going to reproduce that gene set.
	And so that is my sort of understanding.
	And, you know, people can Google this up and look it up.
	But there does seem to be some ways in which our bodies and our sexual desires try to guide us towards people who are very optimal for us genetically, if that makes sense.
	Right.
	So I looked something up and I found something which is called genetic matching or matchmaking.
	And they were speaking about human leukocyte antigens, which basically means if those antigens are really different, then It will produce like a healthy gene mix and if they're really similar that comes close to maybe incest Right.
	Yeah.
	So, I do think that genes and desire are intermingled.
	And, of course, from an evolutionary standpoint, we would very much expect that to be the case.
	And, you know, to jump back into the sort of topic of the last couple of months, because it has, I think, a lot to play in this area.
	IQ. One of the reasons that IQ is suppressed in general conversation is, of course, fears and hysteria about...
	Racism and bigotry and so on, but also because IQ is a characteristic or a marker of sexual market value.
	High IQ people have higher sexual market value, which is why we've become more intelligent over the past 200,000 years since we first decided to peel ourselves up from the ape herd.
	And so intelligence has high sexual market value, particularly of course in colder climates that we've talked about a bunch of times before.
	And so one of the reasons that IQ is suppressed is that Foreign women, or women genetically dissimilar is another way of putting it, have a kind of exoticness to them.
	And that can be attractive, of course.
	But if you understand IQ, then it changes, right?
	The sexual market value of lower IQ populations, the women and the men, tends to go down.
	And so there's a huge incentive for the lower IQ gene pools as a whole to react hysterically and viciously and aggressively when the topic of IQ is broached, because it is going to affect, not in terms of individuals,
	but as a whole, it's going to affect Sexual market value if there are genetic components to IQ and again the experts tell me 50 to 80 percent if there are genetic components to IQ then what happens is You can have a very I don't know.
	I'm trying to think of the way to put it that's the least triggering for people.
	Okay, let's say you want a really not intelligent child, right?
	You just want a kid who's going to...
	You can prop him down in front of Saturday morning cartoons and, you know, he'll be watching failed videos until he's 35 and then he'll get a job as a bus driver.
	If you want a kid who's not going to challenge you intellectually too much, it's going to be kind of easy to order around and so on.
	So if you want a kid that's kind of dull, then...
	Your best mating strategy would not be to mate with a top-tier Ashkenazi Jew female lawyer or something like that.
	You wouldn't want that strategy.
	You wouldn't want the strategy, of course, of even marrying into a below-average intelligence Ashkenazi Jewish woman.
	And I say Ashkenazi Jews because they generally tend to score the highest in the IQ spectrum.
	So if you wanted a dumb kid and you say, well, I found this Ashkenazi woman who's got an IQ of 90, so I'm going to have a kid with her.
	No, because there's what's called regression to the mean, which means that if Ashkenazi Jews have an average IQ of 115, then the less intelligent Ashkenazi Jews, in other words, those that might be even approaching white averages in terms of IQ, God help them, well, you're going to get a bounce back, right?
	The genetics are going to catch your kid going upwards.
	In the same way, If you have a really smart, I don't know, Australian Aboriginal, right?
	He's got an IQ. I don't know.
	What is pushing the meter to red for them?
	What makes them burn white hot?
	I don't know.
	Maybe an IQ of...
	90 or something like that, which is way up from their average.
	And you say, okay, well, what's going to happen, though, is their kids are likely to be much lower than the peak of any individual.
	And that's, you know, less intelligent parents are likely to have more intelligent children, based on the average.
	More intelligent parents are likely to have less intelligent children than themselves, because that's a regression to the mean.
	And so, even if you find some really brilliant individual from a low IQ population, the odds are that if you have a child with that individual, the child will not approach.
	If you're from a higher IQ population, the child will end up, at best, somewhere in between.
	Right?
	So, if you have an IQ of 100, and you have a kid with someone, even a very smart person, from an IQ gene pool of 85, then your kid's probably going to have an IQ of 90 to 95.
	And once you understand this, I guess Trayvon Martin gets a little clearer in everyone's mind, because Trayvon Martin's father was really smart, and it doesn't seem like Trayvon Martin was, because there's this regression to the mean.
	And so it's not just, like, you can't judge individuals based upon group aggregates like IQ. However, since there does seem to be a very strong genetic component to IQ, You can say that over time the genetics are going to reassert themselves, right?
	So you can say that all Chinese people must be short because they're tall Chinese people.
	However, you can say that The children of Chinese people are likely to be shorter, and the children's children, and there's a general regression to the mean, right?
	There are blips and then it all settles back down.
	It's sort of like if you drop a rock into a puddle or into a little pond, there'll be these waves and then it will settle back down.
	And so when it comes to genetics and sexual market value, there are groups, of course, Yeah, definitely.
	Definitely.
	And since the most ferocious battles in society are generally fought around sexual market value, this is why I think this politically correct ferocity is occurring.
	So what do you think the environment and the upbringing or the parents, what do these three factors, how do they play a role in I personally think environment has a pretty strong effect on what you find sexually attractive and I think that makes perfect sense.
	Because sexual practices generally conform around what women want, right?
	Because women are the choosers and men sort of parade in front with these shows and the women choose who they're going to reproduce with.
	So what women like is what you should be doing.
	So as far as environment goes, your mother and your father, by definition, were sexually successful people.
	Again, assuming that you are their child in particular, that you are your father's child, which a lot of times does not unfortunately seem to be the case and nobody knows.
	So, if you're a man, you're going to model yourself after your father because your father is your first and primary example of a sexually successful man.
	So, you're going to do what your father did because that's what your mother wanted to do.
	From men, right?
	So if you're a daughter, you're going to do what your mom did because she is a sexually successful female, which is not the most difficult thing in the world to achieve.
	But you're going to do what your mom did because she's sexually successful and that's what you want to do to reproduce.
	And so I do think that one's first exposure to sexuality is something that is heavily imprinting.
	And I've mentioned this before years and years ago.
	I think I was overseas.
	I was up late.
	I watched some documentary on fetishes because, you know, I was up late.
	And there was a guy who liked, he was in a rubber suit, and he liked women to block off his breathing.
	And he talked about how when he was younger, girls jumped on him and sat on him so heavily that he couldn't breathe, and this made him excited.
	And so there are these weird imprintings that seem to happen.
	And it could be the case that pedophilia is one of them, although I don't know the degree to which that may be genetic or not.
	It seems like a lot of people who have sexual feelings towards children were themselves sexually exploited as children, and I think it's that kind of imprinting that is so tragic in these areas.
	So if, you know, there's certain tribes where really long necks are a sign of high sexual market value, probably because, you know, that which means you can't work means you have a lot of resources, right?
	So like these women's suits, which are immaculate and white, well, they're saying, I don't work with my hands.
	That's why long nails and very heavily painted nails and so on are also...
	I do think that...
	Our sex drive is the water, but it's poured into a localized container.
	And this is one of the challenges, of course, with pornography, right?
	Because in the past, you would see, like in a tribe, you would generally see or hear sexual activity.
	And so you'd say, okay, well, this is what the adults like.
	So when I grow up, this is what I'm going to do.
	And this is what should turn me on.
	And I think that there's an imprinting that happens.
	When you have exposure to sexuality, which when we were evolving as a species was pretty local and I would imagine somewhat constant.
	And with pornography, particularly the number of, I don't know, teens who were viewing pornography, they're getting a lot of imprinting on their initial sexual preferences that may not exactly represent the majority position of what women like and probably doesn't, right?
	Because it's aimed at male...
	Sexual fantasies rather than women's sexual fantasies, which seem to evolve a lot of backstory and abs.
	And so, I think that there is important imprinting that occurs in the realm of sexuality that are local, that are cultural, but the first and most important are your mom and dad.
	Does that help?
	Yeah, definitely.
	And what do you think the very first What kind of effect does it have on a human?
	Does it determine your future relationships or what you're looking for or that you compare it to your very first experience or exposure?
	Yeah, I don't know.
	I mean, that's a good question.
	Obviously, I don't have any objective or scientific answer to this.
	It wasn't the case with me.
	But, you know, the only exception that I can think of that, and this, I don't know if it's cause or effect, but a few men that I've known whose first sexual experiences were with prostitutes seem to have had lifelong problems with women.
	Now, it could be that they had problems with women to begin with, and that's why they went to prostitutes and so on.
	But men who've attempted to cure their insecurity around women with going to prostitutes don't seem to have solved the problem, to put it mildly, any more than a rich guy says, well, people don't like me, so I'm going to buy friends.
	Therefore, people were like, this doesn't really work that way.
	I don't know that...
	I don't like determines.
	Like you said, the first partner determines something.
	I think that most people try to do the best that they can with what they've got.
	You know, can I... And everybody will always aim either a little or a lot high when it comes to dating.
	Like, when I was a teenager, I asked out the goddesses of the queens of the school regularly.
	I felt like I was a very high-status male...
	Because I felt like there wasn't a lot of external evidence to confirm that.
	But I felt like I was a high-status male.
	And so I aimed, you know, in hindsight, of course, I aimed ridiculously high, which has been a tendency of my life as a whole, which is why this show exists.
	So I'm not supposed to complain about it.
	It's a good thing for me to aim high.
	But everybody tries to do the best with what they can.
	And what is challenging, of course, is when you go out into the sexual arena, And you try and get the best that you can, let's just say you'll get quite a bit of objective feedback.
	You know, until the government forces people to get married, there still is a free market in the sexual arena.
	And it is quite a wake-up call.
	You know, it's like a wake-up call like, oh, I like to sing.
	I wonder if people will pay me to sing.
	Oh, they'll pay me not to sing.
	Okay, I guess that's a wake-up call.
	And so when you're out in the sexual marketplace, you're going to get a lot of objective feedback.
	And for a lot of people, that's really disconcerting.
	So I don't think it determines, however...
	Your first sexual partner is when you're youngest and hottest, you know?
	I think that it may condition what people think their sexual market value is in the future.
	Like if you can only get...
	I don't mean this just in terms of looks, but, you know, sort of the 1 to 10 scale in terms of quality.
	If you can only get a 4 when you're 18, well, okay, then you're not probably going to be hotter when you're 30.
	I guess for a man you might be richer or whatever it is.
	But I think that who you can get at the beginning might determine how you feel about yourself going forward.
	Does that make any sense?
	Red, what do you think...
	So you said it determines, so the first part determines, or it doesn't determine, so let me phrase it again.
	If a certain type of people find me attractive, how do you think that influences my choices?
	Because it basically shows that Well, no, that's if you're passive, right?
	I mean, are you going to go grow some of your own food, or are you going to go to a restaurant, are you going to cook for yourself, or are you just going to pick up some roadkill that's been in the sun and gnawing it like an ape, right?
	And this, you know, I mean, I think any reasonably attractive man has been in the position of a woman who wants you and you don't want that.
	I think that if a woman is attracted to you and wants to go out with you and wants to sleep with you, Then you're kind of at a crossroads, right?
	You say, okay, well, I can be passive and just be swept along by this woman's desire and so on.
	And then you're like a tumbleweed.
	You're just blowing through life, so to speak.
	And on the other hand, you can say, well, this is not what I want, you know?
	And it really has to do with long-term goals, right?
	Are you going to get married?
	Are you going to have kids?
	What kind of person do you want to raise your kids and so on?
	You know, it's not likely the woman who wants to trip you and fall underneath you in somewhat scurrilous ways probably not going to be the best person for that.
	So I think that's the fork in the road where you say, am I just going to be passive and go with whoever wants me?
	Or am I going to choose and have standards, which is going to be what drives my dating?
	Yeah, definitely.
	And so the last part of my question, which I... I don't think that there's one person for everyone.
	That's certainly not the case.
	But you can create it, kind of.
	You're a Japanese robotics expert?
	What do you mean?
	I'm not quite sure what you mean there.
	I mean, like, work on it.
	That's what I mean.
	Okay, so, Soulmates means the most compatible and the best, right?
	Most compatible, I guess you could say that, you know, two mass murderers who hang out together and, you know, bang and kill.
	Woody Harrelson style, okay, that's reference to a movie, not that he bangs and kills.
	I know he bangs.
	I don't think he kills.
	But, um...
	Have you been watching Dexter stuff?
	I never have, but I do remember watching Natural Born Killers with my jaw open and my popcorn largely uneaten.
	And Jennifer Lewis, I'm frightened that she's attractive in any way, shape, or form.
	I'm frightened of the fact that Juliette Lewis is attractive because she's, at least in that movie, crazy as a triple-headed snake.
	Anyway.
	So we wouldn't say soulmates are like two evil people who, you know, hang out together.
	We would say soulmates has something to do with a positive, happy, beneficial, good time love.
	And so you work on improving your virtue and the more virtuous you become, the more you are going to attract and be attracted to another virtuous person.
	So you work to maximize your virtue.
	And to me, it's sort of like dating is like driving down A road.
	And you're getting hungry.
	And there's some restaurants.
	And maybe you have a favorite restaurant in your mind.
	And there's restaurants you're definitely not going to eat at.
	Like for me, it's that East Asian soup stuff.
	Like, no thanks, right?
	Or a place I went once where I had sea slug and snake soup.
	Like, thanks, but that's a little bit too off the beaten whitey path for me.
	So places you're definitely not going to eat.
	There's places where, you know what it's like, you stop and you pick up the unleaded, like you just picked up the cheapest gas you can get.
	You know, I gotta keep moving.
	I need some stuff, so I'm gonna just drive through this place and get something and, you know, drip on the wheel and stuff, right?
	And then there's other places where it's like, yeah, it's a little nicer.
	And then there's places like, wow, I didn't even know there were those restaurants here.
	I'm going there for sure.
	And so as you're driving along, you're getting hungrier and hungrier.
	And at some point, you gotta stop and eat.
	Because at some point you'll be too hungry to continue driving, like it'll be dangerous, you can't concentrate.
	And so with dating, is there a restaurant soulmate?
	Well, if the restaurants get better and better, if they keep getting better and better, then you'll wait for the next restaurant, which is going to be even better!
	But what if the restaurants get better and better and then start getting worse and worse?
	Well, do you wait for them to get better again?
	Or do you just say, well, I'm not going to have them any worse.
	I'm going to have a meal at this restaurant and I'm going to regret that I didn't eat at the restaurant 20 miles back, which was the best, but I didn't know it until it got worse, right?
	So what is your soulmate with regards to a restaurant?
	Well, if you can find exactly the right restaurant, right?
	If it's your favorite restaurant, no matter what, then you're not going to go any further, right?
	Obviously, right?
	Whatever your favorite restaurant is, if it's right there, you know it's going to be a great meal, then you're going to stop and you're going to eat at that restaurant, right?
	That makes sense.
	So this is the choices that we make.
	Who is the best person that I can get?
	Who's around?
	And particularly for men, well men, say particularly for women, once you're over that peak, sort of early to mid-twenties, that peak of sexual attractiveness, what's the guy I can get with my fading looks?
	And that's when the restaurants are getting worse and worse, and you kind of regret the better restaurant that you left behind.
	So as far as soulmates go, if you're a really good person and you meet a woman who's a really good person, you can always wait for an even better person to come along, but that has its risks.
	Of course, right?
	Because if a better person doesn't come along, You've missed your window.
	Now, in my particular case, dated a lot of women, found a woman who's now my wife, and, you know, we met, and within, like, we met, and, like, I think after two days, we've never spent a day apart ever since.
	And I couldn't, like, if I was a Japanese robotics engineer, I couldn't design or create a better person for me.
	A better person as a whole.
	It's not just for me.
	So you want to be compatible with virtue and you want to sort of try and find the best person that you can get.
	And circumstances can change, right?
	I mean, you might get married in your 20s and become a much better person in your 30s.
	And then the person you're with is no longer compatible.
	Because you do have to grow together.
	You don't just...
	The soulmate is like, we matched and then we stay together forever and it's perfect.
	And that's nonsense because a soulmate is someone you grow with.
	And you have to grow according to the same principles.
	You don't want to be a rationalist who grows with someone who grows in mysticism, right?
	Because it's not going to work out very well.
	So if you have people with the same values, then you're going to, you know, you have the same destination virtue.
	You've got the same GPS and mapping system called philosophy.
	So you're both going to get to the same place and you can help each other along the way.
	So, I don't know about soulmate.
	It seems to me like I'm just going to wait until, ah, you know, the personal illumination of oneness lights up my planet and then we're going to be together forever.
	I think that's not a wise place to come from.
	I think you want to keep working on your virtue, be open to new people that you meet, be skeptical of people's virtue, and know that the more virtuous you become...
	The more rare is the person you're going to be able to live and love and grow with.
	And so once you hit a huge amount of virtue, and then you find someone who you really respect and admire, man, you sink your teeth in and don't let go.
	Is that a soulmate?
	I don't know.
	Is being healthy when you're 60 magic?
	No.
	You've just done all the work necessary to get there.
	Right.
	So would you say in your particular case, you didn't just wait...
	You kind of worked your way there, just as the 60-year-old who is still healthy?
	Well, I mean, I was just lied to.
	I mean, I was lied to about women.
	I was lied to about culture.
	I was lied to about race.
	I was lied to about IQ. I was lied to about family courts.
	I was lied to about divorce.
	I mean, men live in this complete platonic baffle-gab, cyclone cave of lies and obfuscations that Keep us enslaved.
	Keep us in chains.
	Men are generally the livestock of society promoted to this imaginary privilege so that we can be further hated, abused, and exploited.
	It took me a long time to find the right person because nobody around me, least of all the women, were telling me the truth about men and women, which is, of course, stuff that I've tried to put out through this show over the years.
	I try to get this information out there so people don't need to wander out into the desert to realize that the oasis they needed was right out back.
	So I think that when people have the truth about male-female relationships and about all the other stuff I mentioned, you can find a better person much more quickly than I did.
	I also needed to become a better person, too.
	Let's not be clear about that.
	Right, right.
	Makes sense.
	All right.
	Anything else you wanted to mention?
	To this question, no.
	Maybe if I take 20 more seconds to just thank you for your work.
	I really appreciate it, what you're doing with your show.
	And you're basically the only channel I have an alarm set, which I'll always get the notifications if you put on a new show.
	Well, thank you.
	Our channel is quite alarming to many people, but I'm glad to hear about it this way, too.
	That's nice.
	And I would say my question wasn't really urgent.
	As opposed to the previous caller, which is basically his life is depending on the choices what he's making and what is going on around him.
	And I think you're doing also a good job of informing people of what is going on in Europe, which also really concerns me at the moment.
	And I'm not sure how this is going to end.
	Oh, well, I'm not either, which is why I'm, yeah, I don't know how it's going to end either, which is why, you know, I mean, if you're five minutes from dying of lung cancer, you know how it's going to end.
	But if you're still only a middle-aged smoker, you have a choice, at least some choice.
	So hopefully we're not that late in the game that, I mean, the moment I stop making videos about something is when I've given up on it.
	So that's my particular key.
	Well, thanks, man.
	I appreciate the call.
	It was a great pleasure.
	Yeah, thank you as well.
	Just a great pleasure.
	Thank you.
	All right.
	Well, up next is Dan number two.
	Dan wrote in and said, Is it okay for people to move to unowned land or unowned land without permission from a third party?
	If this is okay, then how is restricting immigration compatible with property rights unless one takes the conclusion that the state owns the country and so can decide who enters it or not?
	That's from Dan.
	Well, hello, Dan.
	Hi, how are you?
	I'm well, thanks.
	How are you doing?
	Good.
	All right.
	So is there anything you wanted to add to this question?
	I mean, I guess not really.
	I mean, I saw...
	I know another called in about immigration and you did a video and you said some stuff that...
	Well, some stuff that I disagree with.
	I mean, I guess I can mention that.
	If you want.
	Like, one of the things I think you said was that why would you want to allow people into the country who don't believe in freedom?
	You know, there are people who believe in big government types, and why would you want to import them into the United States?
	Right?
	I mean, is that a fair assessment?
	Okay, let's talk about that then.
	That's a fine thing to bring up.
	You were going to say?
	Oh yeah.
	So I think if that's the case, I mean, if it's legitimate to prevent people through the use of force from importing people into products, A country which you don't own because you only own your plot of land.
	Because they're not conducive to freedom, there are people who live here...
	Hang on, hang on.
	Sorry to interrupt.
	Are you talking about the current society or a free society?
	Well, I mean, principles are principles, so I don't really know if it makes much of a difference.
	Right?
	What do you mean you don't know if it makes much of a difference?
	I don't understand that at all.
	Murder is wrong in a free society and in a statist one, right?
	So...
	Well, no, but murder and theft are perfectly legitimate in many cases in a state of society.
	So are they wrong?
	Well, sure, but it kind of matters what society you're living in, right?
	Because if you're talking about immigration like the current government program, then what you're doing is you're conflating the welfare state with charity.
	And so right now, immigration is in no way, shape, or form a voluntary It's an exercise for anyone at the moment.
	You're barred from coming in.
	If you come in, other people are often forced to support you and pay for you and all this kind of stuff.
	It is important when you're talking about the current system that we live under or a free society in the future.
	That is a very, very big difference.
	Right.
	Well, I don't see it as a package deal, meaning I'm against the welfare state.
	Obviously, I don't think that people who come into this country, if they can't make it on their own or rely on voluntary donations, tough.
	But I mean, look, Ann Coulter made the same argument for why she believes in the war on drugs.
	She said, the reason I support the war on drugs isn't because I'm a moral bitty, buddy.
	It's because we have the welfare state, and I'm going to have to pay for their welfare if they can't get a job I'm against the welfare state, but you could have immigration without the welfare state.
	I don't see why it has to be a package deal.
	Okay, you just put in a package deal there.
	A bunch of them, in fact.
	Let's start with the first one.
	Ann Coulter's argument that you can't legalize drugs while there's a welfare state because there'll be a whole bunch of stoners who'll sit around, you know, watching The Wizard of Oz while listening to Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon, and we'll get sick and lazy and she'll have to pay for all of that.
	Now that's an argument.
	I don't know that you can dismiss that argument by calling it an excuse.
	That is a little bit on the intellectually lazy side, right?
	I mean, there may be ways to counter the argument, but you can't just wave a word into existence to make the argument go away, if that makes sense.
	Okay, fair enough.
	So what is your argument against it if you feel that it's a bad argument?
	I mean, well, in the example I gave with Ann Coulter...
	Yeah.
	Well, I mean, there are a bunch.
	One, I mean, first of all, if you arrest them and they get incarcerated, you're going to have to pay for their medical care anyway, because people in jail get government health care.
	And prisons and paying for police, I think, is way more expensive than the occasional hospital stays.
	So I don't even know if on net it's necessarily cheaper.
	And secondly, you know...
	There are plenty of people who use drugs who are not taking advantage of the welfare state and I think it's important to instead of lumping all people who use drugs together to be able to pick out the innocent from the guilty and to say those who don't use the welfare state are different from those who do instead of saying all people who take drugs I'm just going to assume they're going to be potheads who are not productive.
	Well, I don't think she said that all people who take drugs are going to be potheads and sit on welfare, but that is a concern that she has.
	And yeah, your case about the criminal system is, I think, a fair and good rebuttal.
	I don't know what the numbers are.
	Maybe you could pass a law that says if you want to take drugs, you're not eligible for the welfare state.
	I don't know.
	It's just nonsense that you come up with in a state of society.
	Okay, so I just wanted to mention that.
	Now, you said you can have immigration without a welfare state, right?
	Mm-hmm.
	Which, of course, I agree with.
	Right.
	I don't care who lives where, as long as they don't have their statist grubby paws in my pocket.
	That is, I think, perfectly fine.
	So I don't want to be a busybody any more than anybody else does, I guess, except those people who want to be busybodies.
	But, yeah, I think it's great to have the idea of moving.
	It's just that right now, when...
	People move into a country, and we're not talking about people from compatible cultures or compatible ethnicities.
	Look, like it or not, biology has so dictated the planet that human beings are tribal.
	And tribal is physical markers.
	And we just, that's the way we are.
	Biology evolution could not conceivably have worked without genetic proximity preferences.
	So that doesn't mean that different ethnicities and groups and races can't all work together well.
	They certainly can.
	And when I was running a company, we had every conceivable ethnicity and group and gender and so on that you could, and sexual orientation that you could conceivably imagine.
	And I think it all worked pretty well together.
	The company did well and it's still in existence.
	However, because there's no possibility for society to talk about genetic differences, IQ differences, warrior gene prevalence differences, which we've talked about in the Truth About Crime presentation, because that doesn't exist, because that basic reality doesn't exist, what happens is low IQ populations move into high IQ countries.
	Nobody can talk about IQ and genetic differences or aggregate differences.
	And therefore, when the low IQ populations fail, white people get blamed and exoriated.
	And that's bad enough, you know, that there's all this verbal abuse poured into the hearts and minds of white people, which has made a huge number of white people nihilistic and self-loathing.
	I mean, we all know the effects of verbal abuse on a human being.
	You know, Jim Morrison, the singer for The Doors, his father and mother did not hit Their children.
	They had made a vow.
	They said, we are not going to hit our kids.
	Bingo, bango, bongo, no hitting our kids.
	So instead, what they did was they verbally tore them down into shreds, right?
	In the military, it's called getting a dressing down, as they screamed, basically, verbal abuse at their children until their children burst into tears, probably wished they were dead, and admitted their wrongs and, you know, in this sort of Soviet-style re-education, promised to never do it again.
	Okay.
	So, Jim Morrison grows up and basically is a complete lunatic.
	Shows up late drunk for concerts, encourages people to take off their clothes against the law in a concert hall, yells at people, screams abuse at the audience, calls them idiots and slaves, and has constant addictions to drugs, to alcohol, to food, gains weight, and then ends up dying apparently of some god-awful overdose in a bathtub in Paris at the age of 27.
	So verbal abuse is incredibly destructive and in many ways it's more destructive than physical abuse because physical abuse your body heals hopefully but with verbal abuse the words can stay.
	So the verbal abuse being poured on the white population because we can't talk about IQ is brutal and horrendous and has become so pathological that the idea of white people either having in-group preferences or having any assertiveness whatsoever I mean, it's incomprehensible to most people.
	You know, there's an old saying which says, I'm proud of the black race and the black culture, says the proud black man.
	I'm proud of the Chinese culture and Chinese contributions and achievements in arts and sciences, said the patriotic and proud Chinese person.
	I'm proud of white culture, said the nationalist Nazi KKK white supremacist who wants to kill six million Jews, right?
	That's just the way it is.
	You're not allowed to have any pride in your culture, in your history, in your heritage or anything like that.
	And so immigration Not only at the moment, from low IQ populations to higher IQ cultures, because you can't talk about IQ, the only answer as to why the lower IQ cultures are doing badly is white devil racism.
	Well, that's why.
	Why would you want that?
	I mean, there's no conceivable reason why any human being would want that.
	Or sane human being would want that.
	But that's not bad enough.
	Because...
	Because whites are racist and are holding down other races, mysteriously in accordance with their place on the IQ pyramid, not able to hold down Ashkenazi Jews very well, nor East Asians who score above whites on the IQ test, mysteriously unable to apply horrible white racism to those people, what happens is white people then get taxed and controlled.
	and pillaged and of course the verbal abuse comes pouring on as well and white people scores get artificially lowered and there's affirmative action which means that other people will get jobs that more qualified white people would otherwise get so it's not just the verbal abuse it's also the massive amount of theft and pillaging of resources you know there's a reason why white people are having fewer children and minorities are having more for a wide variety of reasons and one of them is because You take money from white people and you give it to minorities.
	So, of course, it's whatever you tax and whatever you subsidize.
	Everyone knows that.
	So under the current system, it's not just that there's a welfare state.
	It's that there's two things.
	There is a lack of Capacity to talk about IQ as an explanatory power for group differences in a relatively free society, number one, which leads to torrents and torrents of hysterical, soul-crushing, community-destroying, entire race-shredding verbal abuse.
	I mean, I don't know if you're white or whatever, but you know what it's like, right?
	So there's number one.
	And number two is this massive theft that goes from whites to minorities of opportunities, of money, of status, of whatever.
	And so because there's this blindness about IQ and this violent redistributionist state that is supposed to ameliorate the effects of IQ, which it never does, and therefore it's a government program because it goes against basic reality.
	It's a government program that never ends.
	And so when groups of low IQ populations come into higher IQ countries, white people in general White people suffer emotionally, spiritually, psychologically, financially in terms of liberty, hope, opportunity, their capacity to have children, and they get chased out of their own neighborhoods, right?
	As Hispanics and blacks in particular move in, white people move out.
	So the more Hispanics and blacks there are in a white country, the less availability there is for white people to have places to live.
	I understand why other groups would want that.
	Sure, I get it.
	But why on earth would the average white person say, I benefit from this.
	Well, I mean, I think...
	I mean, the same reason...
	I mean, free trade...
	I mean, first of all, there are plenty of immigrants who have high IQs, of course, and who benefit, but I think on net free...
	No, I said low IQ populations.
	Well, it frees up resources, so if...
	You know, it's sort of like creative destruction.
	If someone else is taking a job, now I have resources to do something better.
	Hang on.
	It frees up resources.
	I think I understand.
	So you're saying that if lower IQ populations come in, then they do jobs that other people don't want to do, which frees up other people?
	Yeah, in a sense.
	No.
	No, because if low IQ populations come in, then let's say IQ population 85 comes into a Western country.
	Well, IQ 85 people are like, you know, gardeners or hedge trimmers and so on.
	High IQ people don't want to do those jobs, and they're driving down the wages of low IQ people, right?
	I mean, there are lots of whites who have IQs of 85 as well, and in a free market, fine.
	I mean, who cares, right?
	When those people come in, in a statist situation, then it's a big problem.
	Again, I have no problem with anybody who wants to move anywhere.
	It's perfectly fine with me in a free society.
	But, um, in a state of society, and you could say, okay, well, there's some economic benefit.
	Maybe there is.
	And there certainly are higher IQ populations.
	But as Dr.
	Jason Richwine has pointed out, uh, Hispanics, uh, you know, you get the smartest Hispanics coming in first and everyone says, wow, these Hispanics are fantastic.
	But then what happens is because of the IQ issues, the regression to the mean takes over over time and then you get less and less success among the, um, Among the Hispanic population over time, which then again creates a big set of problems in a state of society.
	Like people are always confused and say, well, why is it that the second generation tends to be more militant of Islamic immigrants?
	The second generation tends to be more militant than the first generation.
	Well, of course.
	Of course they are.
	Because there's a regression to the mean.
	First generation is the higher IQ people who leave the country because they can't stand Islamic countries, I assume.
	So they leave the country, they come to the West, And then their kids go back to the standard 80 to 90 IQ that is endemic to the Middle East, and therefore the kids are going to be more susceptible to criminality, to radicalization, and so on.
	But by then, the whole community is embedded in the society.
	Now, in a free society, those kids would self-deport, as they would normally do so, right?
	A third of people who moved to America in the 19th century during a time of relatively free immigration, a third of people self-deported because they didn't like it, they couldn't make it, and so on, and That's great, because in a high-IQ society, low-IQ people have little value.
	Naturally, their jobs can be automated fairly easily in a lot of ways.
	When the combine harvester was introduced, the wages of dumb, brute ox-like agricultural laborers went down, and therefore a lot of people self-deported.
	Sorry, you were going to say?
	Oh, no, that wasn't me.
	Oh.
	So, yeah, in a free society, great, everyone can move, but the idea that you get, if there is a genetic basis, and I've said this, if, all the evidence is that there is, at least all of the evidence that I've read, and I've tried to read pretty widely in this area.
	So, there are low IQ populations, and there are high IQ people within low IQ populations, and those high IQ people come to high IQ countries and do well, but their children don't.
	And so, you know, tall Chinese people can come and work in the MBA, but their kids and their kids' kids and their kids' kids' kids are going to go back to the 5'2 average and they're just not going to make it in the MBA. Right.
	I mean, I think...
	Yeah, I mean, you know, I'll have to do more research in terms of that, but I think in general, I mean, I think one of the – even in a state of society, I think the argument for free immigration is somewhat similar to the right of – I think,
	likewise, if people can move out from between To, uh, from another country to go somewhere else that, uh, constrains the government from being so, so abusive knowing that people will leave.
	So I think immigration is somewhat of a check.
	Are you saying that those countries that have, that, that lose the best and brightest people end up with freer societies?
	So when the smartest people leave a country, that the relative dullards who remain build some classical liberal paradise?
	Well, no, but I'm saying that's, you know, I mean, look, you know, Ayn Rand left the evil Soviet Union to come here.
	Now, maybe the, you know, the people in Soviet Union can play the word made worse off, but I think people like Ayn Rand can say, well, that's the penalty you face by imposing these terrible laws and for having socialism.
	Oh, I'm not sure what your point is there.
	Perhaps you can explain it a little more.
	Sir, what?
	I'm sorry, I'm just, I'm not sure what your point is there.
	I mean, you're citing an individual.
	I mean, the point is that if people impose bad laws and they're complaining that they're made worse off because the people in the society who don't like the laws are leaving, well, what do you expect?
	So, no, but what I'm asking you is, have you done any empirical evidence and said where there is the greatest outflow of the most able people, what remains is a more free society, or what comes out of that is a more free society?
	Because it's all very theoretical, but you're talking about empirically testable stuff.
	Right.
	I have not.
	Okay, well, I would invite you to spend a little bit less time theorizing and a little bit more time looking up the actual facts.
	Like we just talked to a guy who's a very smart guy, 126 I think his IQ was, and his girlfriend's got an IQ of 123 or something like that.
	And he's got a degree in mathematics and he's in Greece where the average IQ is sinking below 90.
	and he's just looking to get out because he's surrounded by dull people who have no interest and have never even heard of the free market and have no interest in getting there and want to just continue to suck off the giant double D cup government titty until they die.
	And so if he leaves the country and other people like him leave the country, do you think that then the government, which has the least intelligent, least ambitious, least motivated people left behind is going to be able to sell them on the free market?
	Unlikely.
	Right.
	I mean, the society moves forward on very, very few people.
	Thank you.
	I mean, you can look at Charles Murray's magnum opus, I think in many ways, Human Accomplishment, for more on this, but it is a tiny, tiny, tiny sliver of human beings who move society forward.
	And those are the most precious resources that any society has.
	And they tend to flare up.
	People say, oh, why does this genius flare up from here to here and there to there?
	It's because it can.
	I think the genius is always there.
	It's just...
	It can, because there's some crack, some opening in the sky where you can have something slightly better in humanity's stead.
	So when the smartest people, like it probably is not more than 100 or 200 people who are responsible for some of the great breakthroughs in human society, you know, like science, like the free market, like evidence-based medicine and so on.
	For each one of those, it probably was not more than 100 or 200 people, and you could argue even less, who were really responsible for these breakthroughs.
	And the vast majority of human society is just one dismal, depressing, spiraling photocopy from nothing to less than nothing.
	And the only way that that is reversed, if you get just extraordinary people who have the scope to go out and get stuff done, almost always against the vociferous opposition of the dullard Burnt out candle non-brain zombie heads of the masses who can't handle change unless change is more change into their hands from the government in terms of money.
	So my concern as well is that through and I'd make this case in a more free society as well is oh yeah you can you know you can leave your home country and you can go to a free country or freer country That's good for you in many ways, but the people left behind are just going to slide further and further back.
	That is a reality we can't just ignore, I don't think.
	By turning tail and running, they are condemning those left behind who don't even remotely have the intellectual acuity to get done what needs to get done to build a free society.
	They are condemning those people to surfery and drudgery.
	Now, I guess the challenge is that when you go and try and help those people, they'll generally spit on you and call you evil.
	I mean, that's why smart people want to run and go to some place where they can exercise their faculties with greater peace.
	And opportunity.
	They want to leave because it's not like you're a doctor and people are desperate for a cure and they cheer you and give you ticket tape parades when you find the cure.
	That's not what happens in society.
	What happens in society is you try to work for the betterment of the masses and the masses just hate you for it.
	I mean they always have and for the foreseeable future they always will which is why the people who can do the best for mankind tend to be the least popular.
	So that is a challenge, and lots of people want to run away from that challenge.
	And I've asked myself, let's say that some spaceship came down.
	This is a good question for you too, maybe.
	Some spaceship comes down from the planet Libertopia.
	And they say, listen, I mean, they're human beings just like you.
	They speak English.
	And there's no government.
	You can do anything you want.
	Perfect freedom of speech.
	Perfect liberty.
	No bureaucratic interferences.
	You'll come onto the spaceship.
	We'll be there in three days.
	Three of your Earth days.
	And you will have...
	You can bring anyone you want.
	All your family.
	All your friends.
	To a maximum of maybe 50 people.
	We'll take you there.
	You'll be perfectly at home.
	It's the most beautiful place you can imagine.
	You'll have perfect liberty.
	Everyone there is happy and rational and empirical.
	No gods.
	No masters.
	No government.
	No taxes.
	No national debt.
	No low IQ populations.
	No war between the sexes.
	No family courts.
	Everything is negotiated.
	Everything is peaceful.
	Everyone is joyful.
	And the music is beautiful.
	But you've got to decide in the next 30 seconds.
	What would you say?
	I'd probably go.
	Have it yourself.
	Mike, what would you say?
	Can my friends and family come?
	If the answer is yes, I'm hitching a ride with the aliens.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	I mean, it's the South versus the other question.
	And I don't know the exact answer to that.
	I do know that I benefited from people who didn't leave, that the freedoms to have these conversations have occurred because people didn't leave.
	That they stayed and they fought, right?
	Okay.
	I would find it hard, like I would hate to go To this Libertopia wonderful planet with, you know, jet packs and space aliens with nine multicolored boobs or whatever.
	I would hate to go to that place.
	And not have adapted to it in a way, like it may not be that great.
	You may be like, oh, I'm in combat.
	You know, I mean, if you walk your whole life 45 degrees into a strong wind, the wind will fall over if it stops.
	And then I would sort of sit there and maybe we'd get messages from Earth.
	We'd get, you know, all the smart people have gone.
	Maybe they made this offer to the top 500 smartest people on the planet.
	All the geniuses have gone.
	All the geniuses have left the planet.
	And as you would watch the broadcasts from Earth, how would they look?
	What do you think you would see?
	Well, you would see a slow slide back into barbarity.
	Maybe not even that slow.
	And I mean real barbarity, like hunting elk with a sharpened stick within a couple of generations through the grand deserted canyons of what were formerly cities.
	Because the world Is lead.
	And the geniuses are the jetpacks.
	It's the fight.
	It's the fight between the lead of the masses and the rockets of the geniuses.
	And this tension, right now, the geniuses are Battling to keep things afloat, the masses are increasing and continuing to weigh down even heavier.
	There's not a part of you that says, look, you violate my rights, you oppress me, you spit in my face.
	Why should I really care what happens to you?
	I'm going to improve my own life.
	It's not like you're really appreciative of my efforts anyway, so why should I stay here when you're going to treat me like shit?
	Well, I already answered that.
	Right.
	What was my answer?
	Because I benefited from people who didn't do that, who didn't take that easy road.
	Because the freedoms that I enjoy to think, to reason, to speak to the world, to have these kinds of conversations, were fought for by people who neither went nihilistic and turned away, but stood and fought against far greater dangers and odds than I will ever face, most likely.
	And so when you've inherited money that people sweated blood to accumulate, Do you just piss it away at the casino?
	No.
	Might be fun, but it's pretty shitty, right?
	Yeah.
	So do you just abandon the planet?
	Let people slide back?
	Forgive them, Father, for they know not what they do.
	The problem is you've got to stop listening to the masses, right?
	If you listen to the masses, they'll drag you down.
	Yeah, I think it's my problem, Ellis.
	Listen to the masses is like going swimming with a mafia hitman.
	You get a feet full of concrete and a couple of views of guppies before your life bubbles out right in front of your wide, bloodshot eyes.
	I mean, you've got to not listen to the masses like I put this video out.
	I was just going to say, I think my answer may have been influenced by the video yesterday.
	Anything you'd like to add to that, Michael?
	A deluge of truthers descending upon the show.
	Like, yeah, you know, if the aliens say...
	Do you not care about the truthers?
	Why don't you care about the truthers?
	You haven't watched this documentary project.
	Sigh up.
	To some other guy.
	Yeah, that may be influencing my answer just a little bit, because I definitely feel what you're saying, Steph, and I think I can go back and forth depending on the day.
	No, and I go back and forth too.
	But the people, you know, the reason I say don't listen to the masses is the masses will just drag you down to idiocy and beat you with experience.
	I mean, just forget it.
	I mean, just the average person is going to leave no more mark on the world than a raindrop four years ago left on the surface of a lake.
	And so they'll try to drag you down because they want to feel like they're important because they're idiots, right?
	And I don't mean the truthers, right?
	I mean, just this is a general proposition.
	They're idiots and there's nothing wrong with that.
	I'm an idiot in a lot of ways about various things.
	I'm just smart enough to know the things that I'm stupid at.
	And idiots don't like to know that they're idiots.
	It's tough to feel inconsequential.
	Everybody is a cathedral of vanity to some degree and if you are inconsequential and you genuinely know that you're inconsequential, you're not really that smart, you're not really that important, people aren't really going to remember you outside of your immediate friends and family and certainly you're not going to leave any particular mark on the world.
	Well, that's kind of tough.
	You know, it takes a lot of integrity to accept inconsequentiality.
	Such integrity is generally not granted to those without enough intellectual capacity to leave a mark on the world.
	So if you are inconsequential, you will hate the very idea of inconsequentiality.
	Which is why dumb people tend to come up with weird stuff that is incomprehensible just to make themselves feel smart.
	Well, I may be a big failure in my life.
	I might only work in a warehouse.
	But I know something that makes me smart and you dumb.
	Ah, I may be standing outside a gate at the base of the Twin Tower wrecking site in New York.
	And I may have a ponytail and I'm 60.
	But!
	Kids may not be speaking to me and this and the other.
	But!
	I know something about nanothermite, and you don't.
	It's like that joke from the TV show Taxi where Jim Ignatowski says about this guy, you know, he might have millions of dollars, he might, you know, invented all these great things and have all these beautiful women, but he doesn't have this jelly donut.
	Well, except the jelly donut is pretty inconsequential, right?
	I mean, unfortunately, this is...
	I am a big fish in a little pond.
	I am...
	Important not because I've achieved something great and objective, but because I have taken on a belief system that makes me feel superior to other people.
	And therefore, anyone who questions my belief system is questioning my illusion of importance.
	Which is why, you know, and so people, and so you don't ever listen to the masses, my God.
	I think there's a problem.
	I'm like, yesterday I was talking to someone criticizing the welfare state, someone from the left, and she said to me, and I was stunned, I can't even believe she would admit saying this, but she said to me, there's nothing you can say that will convince me.
	I'm like, what does that mean?
	There is no argument possible?
	I mean, why would you even admit to saying there's nothing you can say that will convince me?
	That just shows a total, you know, closed-mindedness and Listen, I'll tell you, man, the greatest humility I'm going to just provide to you right now, which is that in this, you're dumber than her.
	Whatever contempt you have for her, whatever you feel that she's not achieving intellectually, you're achieving even less.
	Because she's honestly and openly telling you, I'm a retard.
	I'm insane.
	I'm stupid.
	I'm bigoted.
	I'm prejudiced.
	I can't think and I don't even want to.
	Right?
	So, this information.
	Right?
	So, I mean, that's called Facebook.
	That's called YouTube comments.
	That's called the internet as a whole, right?
	And yeah, I mean, I go through this, you go through this, where we just have to say, who's dumber?
	The dumb guy who rejects evidence or the smart guy who rejects the evidence that dumb guys reject evidence?
	Who's stupider?
	The idiot who rejects reason or the smart guy who rejects that the idiot rejects reason and goes on anyway?
	Who's dumber?
	The dumb guy who mistakes himself for a smart guy or a smart guy who mistakes a dumb guy for a smart guy?
	These are very humbling, humbling, humbling questions.
	That's true.
	My grandfather used to say to me, to expect people who are irrational to be rational is irrational.
	Yeah, you know this.
	But you've got to grit your teeth, right?
	And the reason is that, you know, there's an old saying from, I think it was ancient Rome.
	One senator said, the other said, you know, we've got to make, I don't know, sometimes I'm talking to someone, it turns out that they're a slave.
	It's gross.
	We've got to make the slaves wear special armbands.
	And the other senator said, are you kidding me?
	That's like the worst idea ever.
	Because if they all wear special armbands, they'll know how many there are.
	Of them and how few there are of us, so forget that, right?
	But we have the opposite problem, which is that if we don't communicate with people who are idiots, well, only the smart people can wear the special armbands and you're just wandering through the planet looking for somebody with an armband.
	Anybody!
	Echo!
	Bueller!
	Anybody!
	You know how few we are.
	How few we are.
	And it's just the way things are.
	This desperate desire for idiots to get smart people to engage with them?
	I mean, come on.
	You know that's not going to benefit you.
	It certainly benefits them.
	Absolutely benefits them.
	But they're going to constantly try to get you into their world of crazy.
	And yeah, when somebody says to you openly, there's nothing that you can say that will change my mind, what they're saying is, I have no mind.
	I am full of empty, conformist prejudices.
	And okay, okay, fine.
	You know, thank you.
	Thank you for the honesty.
	Thank you for not having me waste my fireworks on a crowd of blind people.
	So, yeah, but if you reject that, you're dumber than they are.
	Well, I mean, I guess there's a part of me that hopes because, you know, I mean, I guess, I mean, what's the alternative, I guess?
	So, I mean...
	What is the alternative to accepting reality?
	No, I mean, well, no, I mean, if we don't live in a freer society, we're going to have to persuade those who are dumber than us to believe in it.
	So I think, right?
	Otherwise...
	Oh, no, no, no.
	Come on.
	Come on.
	They'll go along with whoever's in charge.
	They're not even smart enough to oppose smart people, good or bad.
	These are the people...
	Listen.
	Oh, man.
	Is that how freedom was achieved in the past?
	Did John Locke go from town to town trying to talk to people pushing plows and trying to explain the free market to them?
	Is that how it worked in the past?
	No, you're right.
	You're right.
	Come on.
	You know, there's a few people who make all the difference in the world and there's everybody else who has as much free will as the tail of a kite.
	You know, there's people who fly the plane and then there's people who are passengers in the plane.
	And unfortunately, the door's pretty much locked.
	Oh, did we lose you?
	No, I'm here.
	I thought I had a thing going out.
	Yeah, so, no, you don't.
	You find the smart people, you network with the smart people, and you put the ideas out to lighten up smart people.
	The world will change when smart people stop trying to convince dumb people of things that only smart people can understand.
	Right?
	What do scientists do?
	Scientists get together with other scientists to advance their craft.
	Do they sit there and go to some crazy face-painted mystic in some mountain in India and try and get them to be a scientist?
	No, of course not.
	Guy says, I only believe what the Beatles tell me.
	Okay, you will not be invited to our next science conference, right?
	That's how things work.
	You network with the smartest people you can find.
	You spread the ideas.
	And you don't engage with idiots because...
	It's a complete waste of your time.
	You know, Tiger Woods isn't out there trying to coach guys with no arms on how to be golfers.
	I don't know.
	He might if they're blonde.
	But you have to let go.
	You have to let go of the masses, right?
	And so the reason I brought all this stuff up is that all these people, Steph, you know, your video on 9-11 got a lot of downvotes.
	You might want to think about that.
	Oh, no.
	Downvotes from people who believe that no planes flew anywhere over New York.
	Oh no!
	Downvotes from people who don't understand what the word nanothermite means.
	Like, oh no!
	Downvotes from people who say the buildings fell in free fall when you can clearly see Stuff that fell off the buildings falling faster than the buildings.
	That's free fall.
	Idiots.
	Right?
	And so, I mean, oh no, down votes from idiots is up votes for me.
	I can just think that, Steph, you know, a lot of people don't like this video.
	It's like, why on earth would I care about that?
	You know, their opinions matter to me.
	And, like, anonymous, unsubbed, it's like, God, if they could just, like, I'd love for people to just get in here, right, get into my head, and just have a view of themselves.
	Like, you're some guy with all caps on the internet.
	Like, I have no idea who you are.
	I couldn't care less.
	And that's what you need to understand.
	Like, I couldn't, oh no, they're a downvote.
	People think that matters?
	Like, what insanity is that?
	I mean, 400 people put together have a brain that weighs a lot more than Einstein's brain.
	But 400 people put together don't make an Einstein.
	Four million people put together don't make an Einstein.
	Maybe even four billion.
	I don't know.
	Like, they just discovered these gravity waves predicted by Einstein's theory of relativity over a hundred years ago.
	Stone genius!
	You know, a whole bunch of bad singers don't equal Pavarotti.
	You know, like, there is no accumulation with idiots.
	There is only, there is only extrapolation and hitting the event horizon of genius with individuals.
	And so, oh no, there's someone on the internet who gave me a downvote who doesn't know how to spell the word moron.
	I think I'll survive.
	I just, like, I think I'll survive.
	But this is what the masses think, that it's important what the masses think.
	And the wise understand that the masses are the opposite of thinking.
	Political correctness is the opposite of truth.
	All delusions held by the masses are antithetical to truth.
	All beliefs held by the masses are antithetical to truth.
	Will that be the case in the future?
	I hope not.
	I'm working my best to change that.
	But right now, whoever the masses condemn, gotta be something good in it.
	And whoever the masses praise, Cover your balls, grab your wallet, and go into the bunker.
	I agree.
	I'm a big...
	If there was a quote I live by, it's Mark Twain who said, whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect.
	You just know you're going the wrong way.
	It works for geese trying to get south for the winter, but anyone trying to get north to truth, You've got to peel off from the mask.
	You just have to.
	So I guess what you're saying is don't listen to them.
	They're not going to appreciate you, but just stay and try to fight.
	They're helping you.
	This is a very, very kind woman.
	She's telling you, look, I'm never going to buy a condo, so just give me my free breakfast and let me go to the beach.
	Right?
	She's saying, look, I'm never going to think.
	Ever.
	How many times have I written not an argument on the internet?
	And how many times have people have said, what do you mean by that?
	I don't understand.
	What does not an argument mean?
	What have I made that's not an argument?
	Or how could I make an argument better?
	Right?
	You know, I mean, it's like, what it is, is people who are trying to golf and they're facing the wrong way.
	Right?
	And they hit the ball and it goes the wrong way.
	And I say, you're facing the wrong way.
	They just hit another ball.
	Facing the wrong way, hit another ball.
	You can just put this on a loop and play it till you're dead.
	And that's engaging with people in the world for the most part.
	Not everyone.
	I love the callers.
	I love a lot of people who listen to this.
	But that's the reality of it.
	And nobody's saying, well, what do you mean I'm facing the wrong way?
	Does that mean the ball's that way, not this way?
	That's kind of what it means.
	No, they just keep hitting the balls.
	Keep hitting the ball.
	Keep hitting the balls.
	And then, I'm not trying to get a ball in the hole.
	Well, why do you have a golf ball in a golf club and you're yelling four and hoping to get a hole in one?
	Anyway, so, yeah, I mean, it is tragic and it is the effect of government schools and it's the effect of religion and it's the effect of leftism and it's an effect of political correctness.
	But human beings are antithetical.
	They have become so ego-wetted to delusion that things as basic as taxation is theft, they can't process it.
	It's like you're saying up is down, black is white in Swahili, on the dark side of the moon.
	Right?
	You don't think part of it's a defense mechanism?
	Like, I can't stop taxation, so let me at least elude myself it's not theft so I don't feel like a victim.
	What do I care?
	What do I care what the motives are?
	What would it do for me to know what the motives are?
	What would it matter?
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	Do you think that would fix it?
	Do you think if I pull on people, they will get taller?
	Do you think if I keep screaming the word hair into my hat, I turn into George Clooney?
	I mean, no.
	I don't care what the motives of idiots are.
	See, the thing is, you'll never know.
	Because they're idiots, they have very little capacity for self-knowledge, so you can guess all you want, they'll just never be a confirmation, because you'll never get the truth from them.
	Because it takes a pretty significant amount of intelligence to have what is called the observing ego, you know, where you look at yourself and you say, I wonder why I do this, right?
	And, you know, I'm working with this with my daughter and it's a challenging thing.
	Why did I react in this way?
	Why do I have this emotion?
	What did I think right before?
	That takes an observing ego.
	It takes significant IQ and, I would argue, a Western tradition.
	And, um...
	So when you try and theorize about what makes idiots tick or crazy people tick, you're theorizing in a vacuum because they will never have the self-knowledge to accurately tell you.
	All idiots can do is manipulate.
	They don't have much of value to offer truth seekers, so all they can do is bully and manipulate.
	They can't climb trees.
	trees, all they can do is kick a tree until a piece of fruit falls down and call themselves an exquisite hunter.
	You can't fix stupid.
	You can't fix stupid.
	And, you know, as soon as you started talking about immigration, Europe has a giant project called Fixing Stupid.
	Got an IQ 80 to 85 population.
	Inbred cousin marriages for 1400 years.
	And Europe's got this, no, we'll fix that.
	Okay, you can destroy your entire civilization because you won't talk about IQ. You can destroy your entire civilization because you won't talk about genetics.
	That's alright.
	It's happened before.
	It's happened before.
	I'm hoping like hell it won't happen again, but it's happened before.
	When societies become so exploitive that they live on lies, well, then they're gonna crash.
	I mean, like anyone.
	Anyone who thinks that the tiger is a pet and the cat is a predator is going to pet the wrong thing and get their arm bitten off.
	Delusions lead to death.
	Now, mild delusions allow people to be exploited, but when people start being deluded and get exploited, you get more and more exploiters, which means they have to sow more and more delusions into people.
	And then eventually there are so many exploiters and the people are so deluded that the societies crash because it can't make a single fucking good decision to save its life, literally to save its life, the whole culture, the whole society.
	And Europe has so many exploiters, you know, layers upon layers of bureaucrats, welfare, warfare, European central banks, the EEC, all the bureaucrats who leave work at four o'clock on a Thursday and don't show up again till nine o'clock on a Tuesday.
	I mean, the public school teachers, the banksters, the financiers, like there's so many parasites, so many...
	Horrifying and horrible human beings preying upon the fundamental human crop, which is not people, but delusions, right?
	You sow delusions in order for people to feed you resources.
	There are so many predators on the European population, and to prey upon someone requires that that person never ask the basic question, what's in it for me?
	What's in it for me, right?
	If you never ask what's in it for you, people will exploit you from here to kingdom come, right?
	Absolutely.
	I'll go here.
	But the moment you ask, what's in it for me?
	Then the exploiters have to prove value to you.
	And if they can't, they can't exploit you anymore.
	Which is why white people in particular have to be so browbeaten and broken down and turned self-hating so that they can never say, what's in it for me?
	What's in it for me?
	What's in it for me for these North African Muslims to come into my country?
	How does this benefit me?
	How is this good for me under the current system?
	Or any system, but let's just say the current system.
	And so, right now, there are so many people praying...
	On Europeans, so many people preying upon the productive classes of all ethnicities in the West that the number of illusions and delusions that are required to support this amount of predation have become so great that society is killing itself.
	It literally is going to die.
	The predators, the parasites, the exploiters can't pull back because they're on an addiction and they've committed themselves to this course.
	The people can't wake up and say, wait a minute, what the hell is in this for me?
	And this, by the way, is the Donald Trump phenomenon in a nutshell.
	What's in it for me?
	How does this benefit me?
	Is this the country I want?
	Is this the civilization I want?
	Is this the culture I want?
	Do I want someone moving in next door who speaks my language, has the same values, the same backgrounds, they can watch my kids, I can watch their kids, or do I want someone moving in next door whose holy book commands them to kill me and who doesn't speak my language and who has really, really bizarre hygiene habits and, and, and, right?
	It's just a basic question.
	And anybody who's honest knows what the answer is.
	Who do you want to move into next to?
	Everybody.
	Lots of people say, I don't care.
	It's just stupid lies and nonsense, right?
	Ridiculous.
	I mean, I respect Flat Earth a lot more than I respect people who reject evolution and genetic proximity preference.
	I mean, Flat Earth is way more sane than the left's view of how evolution in human society works, or evolution as a whole, or period.
	And so, Europe as a whole, they've got so far away from any basic reality, any basic self-assertiveness on the part of whites in particular, okay, well, you know, it's hard when you've been verbally abused your whole life, and that's the story of white people, particularly white males.
	People say, ah, why didn't the Germans stand up?
	It's like saying, why has a woman who's been verbally abused and beaten up For 40 years, why doesn't she just stand up?
	It's like, because she's been beaten out.
	We all understand this.
	It's post-traumatic stress disorder, right?
	And we have PTWD, right?
	Post-traumatic white disorder.
	Except there's no post-trauma because it never ends, right?
	And so until, you know, this is why I hate talking about race.
	Really, I hate it.
	No fun.
	It's not popular, but it's necessary.
	Sorry, you know.
	I don't like telling people they got cancer if you're a doctor, but you've got to do the right thing.
	And so, you know, white people got to say, okay, what's in this for me?
	Are we just resources that the rest of the world can pillage until we fall over dead?
	Are we just like jugulars for the vampires of the planet?
	No.
	What's in this for me?
	What the hell is in this for me?
	And until people ask that basic question and begin to reassert themselves, they just are going to fall further and further into delusion until society is just going to end.
	Civilization is just going to end.
	A society dedicated to ignoring the basic facts of reality is like an engineer trying to build a building while thinking physics is the opposite of physics.
	You may end up with a mess, but you sure as hell won't end up at any place you can live in.
	Yeah, but I mean, in response, who do you want to live next door to you?
	I mean, I don't think people are going to really make that choice.
	I don't get to pick who my neighbors are.
	Maybe if I own the surrounding property or something, but I don't think you get to pick who your neighbors are.
	That's just unfortunate.
	Have you never heard of white flight?
	Right.
	Well, you can leave beyond leaving.
	Well, that's something.
	Aren't you talking about leaving and migration and this big human change?
	I mean, so you get to migrate away from non-white areas, which is what white people tend to do and what Jews tend to do and what the leaders – it's not about white people.
	It's what the leaders tend to do.
	The leaders don't – Angela Merkel is not going to go and live in some no-go zone and walk around in a bikini saying, hey, culturally enrich me, everybody.
	Have at it.
	I mean, they live in their own gated communities.
	They have their security.
	They want to live around people like themselves.
	Of course they do.
	I mean, it's natural.
	So, yeah.
	So, of course you can choose your neighbors.
	It's just because if somebody moves in and you don't want to live next to you, you can move away.
	But it's just a lot of work.
	Why would you want that?
	I mean, I agree.
	But, I mean, on the other hand, I... I certainly don't trust the government to be able to decide who should come in and who shouldn't.
	I mean, they're pretty...
	Sorry, what do you think is happening at the moment?
	That's why I say immigration is a government program.
	I can't repeat this enough and people don't want to listen to it, particularly libertarians.
	I'm pro-immigration.
	Then you're pro-government program because that's all it is.
	I'm pro-more immigrants.
	Okay, then you're pro-more government because the governments will choose, the governments will fund, the governments will indoctrinate, the governments will teach, the governments will manage, the governments will give them housing and healthcare.
	Right now, tragically, being pro-immigration is being pro-big government.
	And why libertarians can't see this, again, it's just one of these incomprehensible things.
	But, you know, given that I'm saying don't interact with idiots, I have to make my choice, given the scarce resource called life that I have to spend.
	It is a government program right now.
	I don't trust the government to do anything.
	I don't trust the government to tie its own shoes.
	Of course the government can't choose who the hell's going to come in and who the hell's not going to come in.
	Of course not.
	The government's not going to do that for the betterment of the country.
	It's going to do that to expand their own political base.
	I'm looking at you, Democrats.
	And it's going to do that to appeal to the sentimentality of women.
	Because women can afford to be sentimental about immigrants, but men can't because men are going to end up fighting these people.
	Okay.
	But how is saying we...
	Because Donald...
	Trump, at least from what I've heard of him, he's not saying we shouldn't have any immigration.
	He's saying we should just bring the best and the brightest.
	So doesn't that mean the government would try to screen and decide who should come and who shouldn't?
	So how's that not a government program?
	Well, it's an improvement in a government program to say we should get the best and the brightest rather than the lowest IQ, the least skilled, the least employable, people with the lowest sexual market value who can't possibly get a date.
	Young men, unaccompanied, unattached young men, always cause problems in society.
	I don't care what race they come from, right?
	So if he says, let's get the best and brightest, okay, that's a step in the right direction.
	However, it could be that when he says no Muslim immigration, it's a trap.
	I don't know.
	I'm not Donald Trump.
	But if I were Machiavellian, I'd say, no Muslim immigration.
	And people would say, that's racist.
	You can't single out the Muslims.
	I'd say, okay, no immigration.
	The president can do that.
	And America did it from the 1920s until the 1960s, which was a time of fairly significant peace and prosperity in America.
	Well, I guess with the exception of the Fed created and maintained 13-year economic depression in the 1930s.
	But it was not a time with mass rioting and all this kind of stuff and the police having to stand down for fear of defending themselves and having their lives destroyed and so on.
	So...
	So yeah, it could be Donald Trump's thing of saying, oh, is it racist to say no Muslim immigrants?
	Okay, well, let's just say no immigrants for a while.
	I mean, it's not like America is desperately...
	I don't think I've ever been in Manhattan saying, boy, you know what would be great?
	Another 100,000 people here.
	That would just, boy, echo.
	No one's around.
	I can't get a hot dog.
	It'd be great if there were more people.
	America is not exactly suffering from an excess of people at the moment, and so, yeah, if you shut down immigration, it would be a breather, and it would be far less taxes, and it might give white people more of an incentive to breed rather than not have kids because they're paying for everyone else's.
	Uh, you know, the Holocaust, you know, for instance, you know, the, the, the Jews who are fleeing Nazi Germany were on the boat to Ellis Island and FDR send them back where they, where they were killed.
	I mean, I think that's pretty horrific.
	Not, you know, I mean, the, the consequence of not having that immigration was that these people now are, are, were died and got killed.
	Right.
	So.
	Yeah.
	So it's really bad what Hitler did.
	Right, but FDR could have helped by allowing the Jews to have a safe haven, right?
	I don't know about the politics, and I know about the Jews that went around the world looking for safe havens, and, you know, that was a big problem.
	Now, back then, of course, I mean, they were just having the start of the welfare state and all that kind of stuff, so that, you know, why didn't you hear about that in the 19th century?
	Because lots of Jews got to come out.
	Without the welfare state, they could land no problem.
	So there the problem is the welfare state, right?
	Not immigration.
	Right.
	What do you mean?
	I guess I'm not seeing it.
	How's the problem of the welfare state?
	Because this occurred in the 1930s, right?
	Yeah.
	Okay, a couple of problems.
	This is just off the top of my head, so, you know, I think this is accurate.
	So...
	This is just, you know, off my readings of Whitaker Chambers and McCarthyism and so on.
	So, number one, why didn't this happen in the 19th century?
	Jews were fleeing persecution in the 19th century.
	They were able to land and come to America no problem, right?
	So then, back in the 19th century, there was no government welfare state, and so it was not really that big an issue as to why, as to whether or not the Jews could come into America, right?
	Because there was no welfare state.
	Does that make sense?
	Mm-hmm.
	That's number one.
	Number two is that a lot of Jews in Europe in the 1930s were communists.
	Oh, by God, but there are a lot of communists.
	And, you know, a lot of the communists were Jews.
	Maybe they couldn't vet them.
	Maybe they didn't have papers.
	Maybe they were concerned that Hitler was fighting, right?
	It was Nazism versus Bolshevism, right?
	The communists and the Nazis were fighting tooth and nail in the streets in Germany.
	And so it could be, and of course there are a lot of Jews, as I've talked about before, a lot of Jews were instrumental in the founding of communism and the spread of communism.
	Jews were about 2% of the Russian population, but 40% of the communists and so on.
	And so there were a lot of Jews who were instrumental in the founding of communism.
	This was a very strong anti-communist time.
	In America and communists were infiltrating the US government considerably.
	I mean this McCarthyism hysteria and so on, there was real foundation for it.
	I mean there were hundreds of Soviet spies all riddled throughout the US government, particularly in the State Department, particularly I think that would be a bit of a security concern.
	You'd have to ask FDR if you could, but I don't know.
	Maybe the factors exist and maybe they don't.
	But there were some security concerns about intellectuals fleeing Germany because a lot of them weren't like freedom fighters who didn't like Nazism.
	A lot of them were like, damn, we didn't win with communism.
	We communists didn't win, so let's go flee to America.
	Well, I don't know that you want a whole bunch of communists coming into America.
	It didn't do America a lot of good in the Cold War.
	I mean, yeah, but who's to say they're communists or not?
	Right, you don't know.
	Okay, so there should be the presumption of innocence.
	What?
	There should be the presumption of innocence.
	Until we have evidence that you are one, we assume the best.
	Oh, come on, man.
	Okay, let me give you an example.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	There are two cages.
	In one, there's a tiger that has just eaten.
	In another one, there's a tiger that's starving to death.
	Now, you shouldn't care which cage you go into because of the presumption of not being hungry.
	Now, if I tell you I'm not going to tell you and there's no way to know from the outside which tiger is starving and which tiger is so full it couldn't eat another one of your toes, If I were to say, you can't tell, would you want to go into either cage?
	Well, no.
	So don't give me this presumption of innocence, crap.
	If there's a significant population riddled with problematic human beings, and there's another population not riddled with problematic human beings, why on earth would you want to take the first group?
	If you have a bunch of people, a bunch of Elderly white people from England, right?
	Not going to be a lot of jihadists in that group, I think it's fair to say.
	You've got a lot of elderly white people who want to come over from England.
	Let's just say they've got savings, they're not going to go on Social Security or whatever it is, right?
	So you can bring those people over or you can bring over a whole bunch of Muslims from North Africa in a place you've been bombing for the last 20 years.
	Hmm.
	These people already speak English.
	They have resources, compatible culture.
	They don't believe in a manual that tells them to kill you.
	Or there's these other people.
	Huh.
	Well, I mean, come on.
	You can't lump all these people to say, well, let's flip a coin.
	It's six of one, half a dozen of the other.
	Presumption of innocence.
	All right.
	Yeah, I guess that's a fair point.
	Yeah.
	I mean, listen, two girls both want to sleep with you, right?
	Yeah.
	One has the kind of SDT, sexually transmitted disease, that turns your penis into a missile that blows off your balls.
	The other one knows how to deep throat.
	Which do you want to sleep with?
	I'm not going to tell you which one is which.
	Yeah.
	It's 50-50 presumption of innocence.
	Where did my balls go?
	Oh, got hit by a missile of political correctness and bye-bye Europe.
	Okay, so I, so where, I guess where should the line be drawn then, right?
	So, like, I imagine you wouldn't, you know, support, you know, what they were doing.
	Wait, wait, you mean in a free society?
	Huh?
	Do you mean in a free society?
	Uh, sure.
	What do you mean, sure?
	Like, I'm just like, is it irrelevant?
	Both, I guess.
	In a state of standard.
	No, I'm not going to talk about which government policies should work.
	I mean, I don't care about the government.
	Fundamentally, I just want to get rid of it.
	So, that's not where I'm going to come from in terms of, like, I think the government should do this, I think the government should do that.
	I mean, that's...
	Ideally, yeah.
	If I had a choice, if I could wave a magic wand and we lived in an alternate universe where that could mean something, okay.
	At least have an IQ test for people coming in.
	At least have an IQ test, and it has to be at least 120.
	Why?
	Because we already have lots of 115s here already, so why on earth would it be incompatible, potentially jihadi, potentially don't speak the language?
	It'd have to be at least 125 or more, right?
	Ah, there's going to be a regression to the mean, but you know, that at least, let's bring in people significantly better than we already have.
	And we already got a bunch of Jews, we already got a bunch of East Asians, we got a bunch of people with IQs of 115, we got a whole bunch of people with IQs of 120, 130, so 135.
	Okay, 135, you're in.
	Right?
	And none of this, my wife has an IQ of 90.
	Sorry!
	Because you're going to blend that together and we're going to get somebody with an IQ of 100.
	So, you and you alone, high IQ, in you come.
	That, you know, if, like, that would never happen and, you know, whatever, right?
	Now, failing that in a free society, easy peasy, nice and easy.
	Because if the majority of Americans did not want Muslims to come into the country, well, they're Christians.
	Christians have been killing Muslims.
	Muslims have been killing Christians for 1,400 years.
	And in fact, more Christians have been killed by Muslims than Muslims have been killed by Christians.
	Far more, although recently it's gone the other way.
	So, they didn't want.
	So, in a free society, let's say that some guy, it can be guy X, doesn't have to be any of you, some guy comes in that nobody likes.
	Let's say a guy wants to come in who loves to dress up like Hitler.
	Here we go.
	This is the least offensive thing that I can think of.
	Isn't it nice that I'm actually taking that approach for once?
	Guy comes in.
	He wants to dress like Hitler and to walk around screaming and doing the full-on Fuhrer Nazi arm salute the whole time.
	He's got the puffed-out leg thing, the Eva Brown slouching along behind lookalike or whatever, right?
	So this guy comes in.
	Now, he comes to your town.
	He's got the little mustache.
	He's got the side comb gooey hair.
	And he doesn't speak English.
	He only screams at people in German, right?
	He comes into your store and he wants a job, right?
	Yeah.
	I went to German, yeah!
	Uh-huh.
	You're going to hire him?
	Uh, no.
	No!
	Okay.
	Okay.
	See?
	Now we're getting somewhere.
	Let's say you have a hotel, and this guy wants a room, comes and screams at you in incomprehensible German or Austrian you're not even sure, and threatens to release the hounds of Nazism on you if you don't give him a room or whatever.
	Are you going to rent him a room?
	No.
	No.
	No, you're not, right?
	Because you don't know what the hell is going to happen, but this guy is not who you want around, right?
	So he's not going to get a job.
	He's not going to get a place to live.
	The grocery store is going to put a big Hitler with a line through it saying, crazy Hitler guy, you can't come into our store, right?
	Because, I mean, if you're a grocery store and there's some Hitler guy in there saluting the cantaloupes and invading the kumquats, which is a tragically underused name for porn films, but anyway...
	You don't want people clicking that in social media and say, hey, look, look what was at the easy mart down there.
	It's like, you know, being Hitler who's, you know, wearing nothing but riding crop pants and bananas over his nipples.
	And then people are going to be like, that's not, I don't want to go to that store.
	You know, the crazy Hitler guy is who they think.
	So that crazy Hitler guy is going to be ostracized, right?
	So he's not going to find a place to land.
	He's going to be like a helicopter over the ocean.
	Can't find a place to land.
	He's going to have to end up self-deporting, right?
	Because people aren't going to want him around.
	So I have no problem.
	Anyone goes anywhere, fine with me.
	But I demand for that to occur the right to have nothing to do with that person whatsoever.
	With the welfare state, with government, with the government education, with, hell, collective payments for roads, with the healthcare system in Canada, I'm forced to have something to do with that person because I gotta pay their bills or go to jail.
	Now, in a free society, crazy, offensive, screaming, smelly, lacquer-haired Hitler guy, no one's going to want to have anything to do with him, right?
	Right.
	So he's not going to stick around.
	And you can insert whatever group you want into here.
	It could be anything you want.
	In a free society, if people don't like that person, if they don't want that group, they have the right to say no.
	Right.
	And then anyone can come who they want, whoever they want.
	Right.
	But I mean, using your argument, and this is, you know, I mean, look, there are plenty of people who live here domestically, who are going to have children, who they're going to import through the uterus, who are not going to be friends to freedom.
	So I mean, so shouldn't the solution be, you know, you can't have children or you can't stay in this country, or you're going to have to guarantee that you're going to raise your children with freedom values?
	Right.
	No, no.
	This is why I talk about ostracism all the time.
	And you know what's funny is that people on the left, when I talk about you won't want to have anything to do with them economically, people on the left go insane.
	That's prejudicial, that's racial, that's bigoted.
	But every time a corporation doesn't do something that the lefties like, what do they do?
	They boycott it.
	And so, you know, when the pizza parlor, when the The guy, Indiana, I think it was, at the pizza parlor, the reporter asked some guy, do you think you guys would theoretically cater a theoretical gay wedding?
	He's like, I don't know.
	I don't think so.
	Theoretical, right?
	Gay people starving.
	Indiana pizzeria wants to starve gay people.
	And everyone boycotted.
	All the people on the left were like, well, we disagree with those values.
	Let's boycott them.
	Let's get them fired.
	Let's get them fined.
	Let's boycott them.
	Let's shut them down, right?
	And they're always organizing these economic boycotts and economic ostracism, and then the moment you talk about in a free society, undesirables will be kept at bay by economic ostracism, they're like, oh, that's terrible!
	The left, if they weren't so dangerous, they'd be so, so funny.
	But, um, so, yeah, just ostracize them.
	Yeah, okay, they're going to be kids there.
	So, you know, in a free society, right, in a free society, Let me tell you something.
	Okay.
	Donald Trump, not only does he not spank his children, he himself was not spanked by his father, who was not an abusive man.
	So this is a non-spanked individual, which is why he's so traumatic and overwhelming, because he's revealing the effects of spanking on other people.
	Is he a perfect man?
	I don't know.
	Whatever that means, I'm sure as hell not.
	But this is a non-spanked individual.
	And because the vast majority of children in America are spanked, When they see a non-spanked individual who was raised with respect and love, it kind of freaks them out.
	He's overwhelming to them, and it happens at a very, very deep unconscious level, which is why, in particular, people who are abusive tend to rail against him, because he was raised in a non-coercive, non-spanking environment.
	I don't know many of the details, but it sounds not wildly dissimilar to the peaceful parenting stuff that I've been talking about.
	Now, if in society, the majority of people are raised in a peaceful parenting environment, they will immediately see and understand those people who weren't, because the differences will be night and day.
	The differences will be night and day.
	The left survives on people being diminished, and Donald Trump is a big guy raised in a peaceful manner, and he's...
	Encouraging people.
	He's enthusiastic about America and positive towards its future and so on.
	You know, it's not great.
	So, not great for others.
	So, in a free society, the people who, the vast majority of people will not be Spanys, won't get a free society until the vast majority of people are raised, or at least a significant number of people are raised peacefully.
	In a free society, I personally would not want to hire people who've been raised in a violent, aggressive, hitting, spanking, verbal, abusive manner.
	I wouldn't want to hire them.
	Too much work, too much high maintenance.
	I'm sorry for them.
	Maybe if they go to therapy or whatever, things can be worked out, but I don't want to hire them.
	And so I think in the long run, and some people will, and then they'll learn, that hiring somebody who's raised peacefully in a good way, in a peaceful, negotiating way, is much more profitable than hiring some jittery, resentful, traumatized person who was beat up as a kid or spanked or hit or yelled at or abused as a kid.
	The economics will take care of it.
	The economic productivity of peaceful parenting is something that will blow people's minds when they ever get around to experiencing it.
	They'll just be much more economically productive and so they will be much more valuable employees and people will not want to hire the people who've been spanked as kids unless they've gone to therapy or whatever.
	So, those people will then go and deport themselves or self-deport back to countries where there's more spanking and they have more in common with those traumatized people.
	How are people going to know if people are spanked or not?
	I mean, people aren't generally going around saying I was spanked or I wasn't spanked, right?
	Were you spanked?
	Me?
	No, I have peaceful parents.
	And do your peaceful parents, what do they think of the woman who said, nothing can change my mind?
	I didn't actually discuss that with them yet, but I'm sure they...
	Have they taught you how to recognize and deal with people who are irrational?
	I mean, I was sort of raised that we would discuss, you know, I remember, and my grandparents were raised this way as well, you know, what did you learn in school?
	And I would sort of just repeat...
	What the teacher said in school and my parents and my grandparents also would say, no, I want to know what you think.
	So I was raised by parents who were very, you know, want to instill, you know, being questioned, question what you hear and...
	That's not what I asked.
	Sorry, what did you ask?
	What I asked was, did your parents help you to figure out how to identify with and detach from people who are irrational?
	You said your grandfather said this, right?
	Yeah.
	So, given that you were interacting with this woman who...
	Had a strong dedication to anti-thinking.
	You were not trained very well on how to identify dysfunctional people and stay away from them.
	I guess not.
	Yeah, so, I mean, this is just part of the peaceful parenting thing.
	It's not just being peaceful to your own kids, but teaching them how crazy the world is and how to stay away from crazy people.
	That's a pretty essential part of it, for me, at least, right?
	So, because you weren't taught that, you don't know how other people could do it, but I don't have much trouble doing it.
	I'm not saying, I don't understand how people can't be peaceful parents.
	I'm saying, how are people going to know that people were raised peacefully, is my question.
	They'll know.
	I'm sorry, I know that's not an answer, but I can't go through the whole thing.
	It's like saying, If I teach my daughter how to identify crazy people and she's raised in a sane environment, she'll no more have trouble identifying people than you have trouble identifying people who aren't speaking English to you as not speaking English to you, right?
	I mean, how are we going to know if they're speaking German if you only speak English and not German?
	Well, first of all, you won't have a clue what they're saying.
	Secondly, they'll have the lack of hair and they'll be doing something unholy to a kumquat.
	So, yeah, they'll know if they're trained.
	down there were you in government schools ah I was actually...
	I'm an atheist now, but I was raised as an Orthodox Jew, so I went to yeshiva up until college.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	I hated it.
	High school was the worst four years of my life, and they were religious hypocrites.
	If you didn't pray, they would be very upset, but if people would beat the crap out of you...
	I remember there was a teacher who was like, I think you guys can figure this on your own, where people like beating me up, and I was sort of really annoyed with that.
	That sort of made me sort of bitter.
	A little, you know.
	But no, so I went to religious school all my life.
	Jesus, I hope more than a little.
	Huh?
	Jesus, I hope more than a little.
	Well, I mean, yeah, I'm not a fan of religion.
	I mean, luckily at home, my parents didn't shove it down my throat.
	It was more in school where it was a problem.
	But...
	Yeah.
	But did you talk to your parents about the abuse and dysfunction that you were experiencing in the yeshiva?
	I mean, I told them when I was in high school that I hated it.
	I think they regret sending me there now.
	I remember the third day I asked to leave and they sort of wanted me to stay.
	Why?
	Huh?
	Why?
	Um...
	I think they thought it would be...
	Well, I know why they wanted me to go to a Jewish school, because I guess that's important to them, and people want to, I guess, instill what's important to them in their children, but I guess they thought that was the school that I should be at, and it was also an all-boys school, which I hated, but...
	Which I'm not a fan of.
	I mean, I think most schools ideally should be co-ed.
	You know, sort of high school is when you learn, I think, and become comfortable with women.
	So I think that being an all-boys school probably didn't help me socially very much.
	But I think they regret it now.
	But when I was there, no, they sort of wanted me to stay for the four years.
	Well, more than sort of wanted you, right?
	I mean, it didn't sound like you could have much of a discussion of it because, I mean, you must have just hated it, right?
	Mm-hmm.
	I mean, one of the things that I tried to do is I was learning a lot of nonsense in my school, some of which was probably a joke.
	Like, I remember there was a...
	Some of it was very ugly.
	I remember there was one student who was giving blood after 9-11, and one of the rabbis in the high school said, you shouldn't donate blood.
	Some's going to go to non-Jews.
	And I'm like, that's disgusting.
	And, um...
	What?
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I'm sorry, I shouldn't laugh.
	Really?
	Is it like the goyim livestock might get your precious Jewish blood?
	I mean, was that the general thought?
	There was a rabbi, although I'm sure he said it as a joke, who said if you're starving, there's a non-Jew.
	I thought I'd cry.
	Sorry, go ahead.
	I said there was a rabbi in my high school, although I'm sure he said it as a joke, that if you're starving and there's a pig and a non-Jew, it's better to eat the non-Jew.
	But, uh...
	Yeah, if you'd said that about blacks, would people have found that particularly funny?
	No, I guess.
	But, no, it was more...
	You guess?
	But, um...
	That's horribly offensive, right?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	I'm not blaming you for it.
	I mean, you were...
	Yeah.
	And I think the school itself, I think, was very ugly, too.
	And the teachers were abusive.
	I remember there was this one kid who came during my senior year of school, and most of the kids...
	And he was dark-skinned, but he was Ashkenazi, which is unusual, because most dark-skinned Jews are Svar...
	And all the kids would tease him.
	They would call him nigger.
	They would say, why don't you join your family on my tree?
	And I remember once in class, this kid bullied him, and he said shit or fuck or something.
	And that's all he did after this kid bullied him.
	And I remember, and I was really pissed, where the teacher in front of the whole class said to the kid, if you don't start behaving yourself, I'm going to have to put you in segregation.
	So, you know, the teachers joined in the bullying as well.
	But yeah, so anyway, so one of the things that I thought of doing to try to get myself not have to go to leave the high school early is they taught us a lot of nonsense.
	So I thought, you know, if I tell my parents what I'm learning in school, they would send me out.
	So I told my parents some of the stuff that I'm learning in school.
	And my father said to me, I know you don't really believe that.
	You're smart enough not to believe that nonsense.
	So it didn't really work.
	So a lot of what you were teaching and being taught in school, your parents recognized as nonsense.
	Right.
	But they wanted you to go.
	Yeah, I guess so.
	Yeah.
	Because of the cultural Jewish indoctrination?
	Is that the idea?
	Probably, yeah.
	I mean, I don't think my parents are thrilled that I'm, you know, an atheist.
	I mean, you know, they accept me and stuff, but...
	Well, but you're an atheist and not a socialist, I assume, right?
	Right, I'm an anarcho-capitalist, yeah.
	Yeah, see, I mean, for a lot of people, you know, fine to not have the religion, but then you've got to have the religion of the state, but neither is a problem.
	Right, yes.
	So let me ask you this, because, I mean, I get this question or comment a lot, of course, when I talk about this stuff.
	A lot of the Jews that I've talked to seem to be very pro-immigration, but not to Israel.
	Like, do you think that Israel should be taking a lot of Syrian refugees in?
	Um, it's probably not in their self-interest.
	That's not what I asked.
	Um...
	Man, that's hard.
	Not really.
	Probably, I mean...
	Yes or no?
	Probably not.
	Why?
	Huh?
	Why?
	Uh, well, uh...
	Don't you all value diversity?
	Where's your multiculturalism preferences?
	I mean, why is it bad?
	Well, because they sort of want to kill the people that they would immigrate to.
	Okay, so, but wait a minute, wait a minute.
	Hang on, man.
	Didn't you just give me a whole speech about not judging people collectively?
	And innocent until proven guilty, my friend?
	Oh, wait, is that only for Christians?
	Is that only for white people?
	When it comes to your country, ah, things get a little different, right?
	I mean, well, I'm not saying that they have a right to not let him in.
	I'm just saying it's probably not in their interest to do it.
	Come on.
	You know you're squirming, right?
	I don't mean to be mean, but you understand this is a bit tough to hear from the outside, right?
	You people should accept all these Muslims.
	When it comes to Israel, oh man, they want to kill us.
	It's terrible.
	Yeah.
	And this is what drives, frankly...
	Non-Jews are a little crazy.
	And I'm sure it drives some Jews crazy as well, too, right?
	But you understand, this is like, why is there this incessant demand that non-Jewish countries take in all these incompatible cultures when Jews are paying Jews from North Africa to leave Israel, right?
	Like, I mean, this doesn't make no sense.
	There's no consistency here, right?
	I'm not putting this on you, the whole thing, but you understand that there's been a bit of a reversal now that we're talking about Israel rather than, say, America.
	Mm-hmm.
	And why do you think that?
	Were you surprised when I asked you that question?
	No, I mean, it's a fair point, a bit, but it's certainly a fair question to ask.
	Why is it this insistence on immigration to non-Jewish countries from incompatible cultures, but when it comes to Israel?
	Why do you think there is this double standard?
	That Jews have?
	I don't want to judge collectively.
	I'm just saying that a lot of people in the media seem to be very...
	I'm sorry, go ahead.
	Jews have been killed a lot and probably to a greater degree than other groups, so they're more protected.
	I mean, I think that's probably the answer.
	Do you not think that a lot of Christians were killed when the Muslims were taking Jews, taking Christians, European Christians as slaves by the millions?
	When the Muslims were advancing all the way up to the gates of Vienna?
	I've got this whole truth about crusades thing that millions and millions and millions of Christians, probably tens of millions over the 1400 year history of these conflicts, have been brutally enslaved and raped and murdered by Muslims.
	Uh...
	I don't know.
	I don't know in the war of who suffered more.
	I mean, I don't think anyone wins fundamentally.
	But I wouldn't also say that Jews have the exclusion, you know, like it's the massive, you know, throughout most of human history, 20th century, obviously.
	But it's different.
	But it wasn't the Muslims killing the Jews in Germany.
	But as far as Christians go, yeah, there have been a lot of murders and enslavements and rapes of Christians by Muslims.
	So it would seem like...
	I don't know.
	I don't quite understand the double standard, that's all.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Well, it's probably also tribal, you know.
	I mean, right?
	Why did the rabbi in my high school say don't give blood to non-Jews?
	So it's probably, you know, there's probably a tribal aspect there also.
	Okay, but then what's wrong with white European Christians being tribal?
	Why didn't the Jews say, yeah, we can understand it, man.
	We don't want them in our country either.
	Or is it if they go to the West, they're not coming to Israel?
	Or is it, well, it destabilizes countries that maybe Israel feels in competition to?
	I don't know the answer.
	I'm just, I'm brainstorming, so to speak.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	Why?
	You think most Jews are pro-immigration?
	I mean, yeah, maybe.
	Well, if most Jews are on the left, in general, and most people on the left are pro-immigration, except with regards to Israel.
	Like, Israel has a wall, right?
	Israel has a big giant wall, which is very effective.
	And then, basically, white middle-class Christians in America talk about building a wall, and they don't get a lot of support from the Jewish lobby, who say, damn, I can't believe it took you guys this long.
	We've had a wall around Israel for decades.
	It works really, really well.
	You guys should do it, too.
	Right.
	It does make people a little bit suspicious, I'll tell you that.
	And I, you know, I don't know what the answer is.
	And, you know, if you're out there and you are of the Abrahamic persuasion, you want to call in and, you know, set me straight on this.
	But, you know, people outside, I mean, within the Jewish community, maybe you seemed a bit surprised.
	Maybe people don't think about it that much.
	Outside the Jewish community, people kind of notice this, okay, Jews...
	Israel-Jews.
	Israel must remain Jewish.
	It is fundamental if we let lots of non-Jews in, it's no longer a Jewish country.
	But then when it comes to Christian countries, it's like, oh yeah, you guys should take everyone.
	Everyone.
	Everyone who, you know, maybe they hate you, maybe it's completely incompatible, maybe there's Sharia law being proposed in your courts, maybe there are no-go zones, maybe there are terrorists blowing you up, but you guys should take them.
	Absolutely.
	When it comes to Israel, we want a big wall and pretty much only Jews, right?
	I mean, that's, you know, it's a bit of a double standard, which I'm sure you can see.
	I don't need to labor the point.
	No, I agree.
	If Jews want Israel to remain Jewish, that's called cultural pride.
	If white Christians want white Christian countries to remain white Christian, I guess, what, all white Christians are now evil, racist bigots.
	It's just, you know...
	No, there's a double standard.
	Anyway, listen.
	Talk to your Jewish friends.
	You can be The Goyam Mole.
	Seriously, take this on if you want, because I'm telling you, you could do a lot of good to Christian-Jewish relationships if you go and find me a good reason for this double standard, bring it back to me.
	Remember, you're anonymous.
	You're anonymous.
	You can bring it back to me and you can tell me the answer so that all of these people in the comments section of my videos and in my inbox and wherever else people can get in touch with us, constantly pointing this out, you can give us all a great answer that will put a lot of people's minds at ease.
	Alright, I'll ask my Jewish friends.
	Do not talk to the rabbi in your high school, because I would not want to think that he's represented Jewish law as a whole.
	I don't plan on going there.
	That was the worst four years of my life.
	I don't plan on setting foot there, so not a problem.
	No, but ask them.
	Ask them.
	You can just say, ask them, what do you think of immigration to America or to Europe or, you know, the traditionally white Christian countries?
	And what do you think of Trump building a wall?
	And, you know, I'm pretty sure they're going to say multiculturalism, immigration to other countries is good, and building a wall is terrible.
	And say, well, what do you think of immigration of these people to Israel instead?
	And what do you think?
	Israel should tear down its wall because walls are really bad.
	I think you'll see a 180.
	I see you.
	Yeah.
	I know Ben Shapiro's answer would probably be something like, because most Jews who are religious are not of the left, typically, right?
	So where I grew up, pretty much everyone in my school and in the community I grew up with was not of the left.
	And so I think people like Ben Shapiro would say, well, the people who, you know, they're not Jewish culturally, so of the people who are pro- Well, okay, but they still would not advocate immigration of non- or anti-Jewish elements into Israel, right?
	I mean, in Israel, they don't As far as I understand it, I say they, right?
	But Israel doesn't particularly care about whether you're a God-fearing Jew because they've had standards for people from Russia, which are genetic tests.
	And I don't think that God shows up in the genetics.
	So I think that if you can prove Jewish lineage, you get to go to Israel.
	I don't think that there's a religious test to get into Israel.
	So I don't think that religion would fundamentally be the differentiator when it came to multicultural immigration.
	Okay, yeah.
	I'll be the mole, I guess.
	Good.
	And this way, we'll forgive everyone for there not being enough blood on 9-11, and you can get us the answers, which I'm sure will put people's minds at ease.
	All right.
	Sounds fair enough.
	All right.
	Well, thanks, Daniel.
	Appreciate the call.
	I really appreciate you sharing.
	I look forward.
	I'm serious about this, man.
	Go get us the facts.
	I look forward to hearing back from you about all this stuff in the future, and I appreciate your call tonight.
	No problem.
	Great talking to you.
	All right.
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