3172 How Western Civilization Can Be Destroyed | Bill Whittle and Stefan Molyneux
With plunging stock markets, migrant related sexual assaults, terrorist attacks, cultural incompatibilities and political correctness running amuck – the United States of America and Europe are hanging by a thread. Stefan Molyneux and Bill Whittle discuss the state of the world and the political consequences of the coming demographic disasters which shall spell the future of mankind. Includes: Germany Rape Attacks, President Barack Obama’s Executive Action on Gun Control, Donald Trump’s continued rise, the silent majority uprising, the fall of Bill Clinton, the future imprisonment of Hillary Clinton and the future of Western Civilization!For more from Bill Whittle check out: https://www.billwhittle.comMore from Stefan and Bill Whittle!1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY-ueR0OLlQ2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jhU3RZDg703: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNLnehTFanMFreedomain Radio is 100% funded by viewers like you. Please support the show by signing up for a monthly subscription or making a one time donation at: http://www.freedomainradio.com/donate
Hi everybody, Stéphane Molyneux back with Bill the Whittle for our New Year's resolution to save the world one syllable at a time.
Good to chat with you again, Bill.
It's great to be here again and you know it's a new year and I think the one thing we can all agree on out there is that Now that the amazing power of government has been harnessed to make sure that there's none of these economic fluctuations and none of those superfluous opinions lying around.
I don't know really why you need so many opinions about things.
I think 2016 is going to be nothing but smooth sailing to the horizon.
And I think everybody in the country feels exactly the same way.
Well, of course, I took a New Year's resolution to find a government program that works.
And I feel I have more chance with that than I do concentrating to grow hair out of my elbows.
I'm working on it.
Nothing yet.
Nice save.
Nothing yet.
Or maybe just willing the unibrow, because I feel that would be the compensation for the lack on top.
But yeah, it's starting off with a bang.
I don't know about you, Bill, but I sort of feel like I've been doing this stuff for, I guess, about 10 years now.
And it feels like we're in a time of significant acceleration.
Before, I sort of had the feeling that we could make the reasoned case over time and gently sway the world towards me.
Yeah, it feels like, holy crap.
I'm with you.
I couldn't agree more.
Yeah, I think before we get into the topic today, I think there's a real...
One of the things I've been saying lately at the speaking events I do is that I no longer get the feeling we need to convince the country that we're right.
I think we just have to give them permission now to say that we're right.
Just need to give them the social proof, you know?
That social proof is so powerful.
Everybody, you know, if you're in a room full of people, most people anyway, we tend to be exceptions because we're out here speaking our mind, but most people in a given room full of people, if they perceive that everybody else is Contrary to their own deeply held values, they'll go along with them and nod.
They don't want to be seen as, you know, being the only people out there.
And I think there's just so much anger and so much discontentment and just general frustration that rather than having to convince the American people, look, this socialism experiment's not working out, I think we just need to say, no, these people are felons, they're liars, they're incompetent, control freak, evil bastards, and they want all your money and all your power, and they want you to just bow down before their will.
I don't think you have to make that case anymore.
I think it's going to be more self-evident every day.
Yeah.
I feel that...
The acceleration of this sort of hunger for control and power combined with the demographic disasters occurring in Europe, where, of course, several hundred young ladies in Hamburg and Cologne and other German cities had the rather exciting proctology-style New Year's with our Northern African and Middle Eastern friends.
Well, it's just a cultural difference, Stephan.
It's just a cultural difference that we have.
Free cavity searches, obviously, is what diversity is sold on.
It's part of their culture, and we need to accept it.
We need to accept it blindly, willingly, and sheepishly.
We need to accept that our mothers, daughters, wives, sisters are going to be groped in a manner that may be inappropriate to us here in the West, but should not in any way be construed as being worse or better than whatever their cultural norms should be.
Either that or we just start punching these guys in the nose.
Well, there's nothing, I think, more exciting that compels you more than being surrounded by a bunch of squid-fingered Middle Easterners who attempt to seem to want to disassemble you like a kid with a Lego set in order to basically ask yourself that basic question, do I miss white patriarchy yet?
I think the answer to a lot of German women is, yeah, I guess we didn't know how good we had it until we didn't.
We need to have a conversation just about that because I know that's what we're going to be talking about today, but seriously...
This feminist idea that what you need to do is get rid of masculinity, and by getting rid of masculinity, you get rid of violence and rape and all of these crimes and stuff.
Somebody's gonna start waking up to that pretty quick.
It's like, no, actually, all that means is if you get rid of your own masculinity and manhood and good men, there'll be no defense against the bad men.
And I think Europe's learning that lesson real fast.
And guns are flying off the shelves out there.
And even in this country, I think people are starting to wake up to the fact that, no, we're going to have to, and it's going to be on us, To breed, well not breed, they've already been bred, to uneducate and re-educate entire generation of young men on what manhood actually is and what it actually means.
And the good news is they're dying for it.
I did an event not too long ago with Turning Point USA about 300 young conservatives.
I was talking just about feminism and this degradation of just maleness.
And boy, you want to talk about a ripe topic for electoral victories and for people who are pent up and had enough.
That's a good place to start.
Well, and I think that's part of the Trump phenomenon as well, is an unapologetic male who obviously revels in his masculinity, is willing to call a spade a spade, and seems to pay no more attention to the gnats of social disapproval than the jolly green giant would to a mosquito-based flyby.
Like, I mean, it's great to see.
And of course, now that everyone sees that when he speaks his mind, his popularity increases despite all of the slings and arrows hurled against him, I think that emboldens other people.
To do the same.
And that shouldn't be long before its hands across the water and break the hypnosis of the media.
Categorically.
And by, you know, it's got to bother the left on some level that when they expect that Donald Trump, who has all these boldface things to say, turns out he treats his women better than...
Let's say Bill Clinton, for example, or Teddy Kennedy.
He treats his women with respect.
They love working for him.
He's, by all accounts, a great boss and gives them all the power and authority they can handle, and they do a great job for him, and they come out in droves saying he's a wonderful guy to work for.
Meanwhile, Mr.
Bill Clinton, the feminist man, the man who we will excuse all this other stuff because he votes in our interest, as Joy Behar said the other day.
Basically, she said, I'd rather have a rapist so long as he's a Democrat.
She essentially said that I'd rather, you know, I don't care as long as he votes in my interest.
Well, it turns out that these guys don't act in your interest.
They're in it for the tale.
Oh, man, I gotta tell you.
Sorry, it's a mildly lengthy tale.
But back when the Bill Clinton thing...
Like the Monica Lewinsky, for the younger listeners, basically the story was it basically came out that Bill Clinton was getting his executive blowjobs and basically using his insurance like disposable hankies for a teenager.
And he was also inserting cigars into her vagina, I think, while heads of state waited somewhere else for him to show up.
And it was just...
It's Caligula style.
Like, I mean, this is like late Roman, turn your face and hold back your gagging noises.
And I was actually, I was not doing this.
I was in a business capacity and I was traveling with a salesman in the States.
We were doing some presentations in big companies.
This stuff came on the radio bill.
And I thought, man, incoming!
Like, I thought, that's completely it for this guy.
Because, of course, you know, any male who, you know, power disparities, and there's no bigger power disparity than leader of the free world and unpaid interest.
Like, you can't get a bigger...
And I thought, man, feminists, like...
Like they were going to be spears and riding over with Mustangs and this guy was going to be pulled behind them and disassembled piece by piece and his balls were going to get nailed up into the cover of a Ms.
Magazine and I'm literally like I thought this is like my god what a rebel and then a giant thunderclap of nothing.
Yep.
He's got a D after his name.
Nothing.
You could just hear the echo.
I thought the same thing about Barack Obama when finally Reverend Wright says, God damn America!
It's like, he's done.
He's finished.
He's over.
I saw the clip.
I said, that's it.
That's the end of it.
It was months before.
He might not even have been the nominee, but it was well before the election.
And that's it.
That's the end of him.
He's finished.
And it's like, no, the big D, you know, covers everything for these guys, right?
It's like, yeah, it didn't happen.
He wasn't there that day.
Really?
He was there for 20 years.
He never heard him say anything like that?
No, apparently not.
He said he didn't, so I believe him.
And Bill Ayers, the ex-weather underground terrorist guy, is bound up with his campaign.
I thought he was Democrat.
His mother was a communist.
His dad was a communist.
His mentor was a communist.
The guy who started his career was a communist.
His campaign manager is the son of a communist.
They're nothing but communists.
Barack Obama could not get the lowest level confidential security clearance in this country.
He is way, way too entwined with With Islamicists and communists, he could never get the lowest level security clearance in this country, never.
And he's president of the United States.
And I now know that there's no life after death because Joseph McCarthy has not come back from the dead with his gnarled southern hands to strangle the communist.
They should have buried him in the White House lawn so that when Obama's walking to the helicopter, at least his hand could come out.
Whether it caught him or not, it could clutch at him, you know, as he walks by.
That'd give you some kind of emotional satisfaction anyway.
Oh, I just love that.
One hand going for the ankle, the other hand with the list.
Yeah, that'd be poetic justice, which we're not going to see.
You might see some kind of justice, though.
I thought that D stood for Democrat, and it turns out it's deflector shield.
Like, D just stands for deflector shield.
Like, it bounces off you.
It's just astounding.
Demagogue, dictator, douche.
You know, there's a lot of Ds out there you can apply to these guys, and they all fit just about exactly the same.
And so, because now we have the tale of the two BCs, right?
We have Bill Cosby and we have Bill Clinton.
Now, Bill Cosby, of course, is facing criminal charges and lawsuits are raining down on him like asteroids on a dinosaur head.
But Bill Clinton, again, an elder statesman.
And, you know, this is a guy who, a woman credibly accused of rape, whose wife says that victims of sexual abuse and rape should always be believed.
Well, they're in real trouble.
It's like walking into an Escher painting and trying to be a physicist, like listening to these people.
Oh, man, what a great analogy.
I think they're in real trouble, though, honestly, Stephan.
You know, a lot of—all the hardcore women supporters of Hillary Clinton grew up with Hillary Clinton and basically— Kind of went with her on this journey, but a full third or a quarter of the population doesn't remember the Clinton presidency, the voting population.
They have no memory of the so-called good times of Bill, and Bill was a lot more charming back then.
They see Bill Clinton now, and they just see kind of a skeevy old guy, and then they hear that, you know, he's got like 20 sexual assault allegations against him, and they're not impressed with him, and they're not impressed with Hillary.
And Hillary's in a box!
You know, she has no record to run on.
She's incompetent.
She's thin-skinned.
She's venal.
She's nasty.
She may be quite mad, actually.
There's a lot of this post-concussion behavior where she's fatigued and she's, you know, Huma's sending out emails saying that the secretary gets confused easily.
So she's not exactly like Wonder Candidate, and she's counting on two things to get her out of this, and one of them is Bill, because, you know, Bill Clinton is charming and...
And engaging and corrupt.
And Hillary is Bill without the charming and engaging.
And it's not working.
And Bill knows it's not working.
Have you seen him lately?
He looks like, for the first time ever, Bill looks like deer in the headlights kind of guy.
How you doing, Mr.
He knows that Bill Cosby's getting rung out to dry.
And if Bill Cosby is going down, you know, Bill Cosby?
You know, the most loved man in America, if he's going down, then all of a sudden Bill Clinton's getting a lot more quiet.
I think he's getting a lot more shy, and I think Bill's starting to realize, hey, wait a minute, hold on now.
I'm going to have to come back and save your campaign, but that makes me a target, and I don't particularly want to be a target because I'd like to not go to jail.
And you've heard these allegations about going to this island, right, this little prostitute island that got out there.
Was it 11 trips in this guy's private jet and underage prostitutes and some girls reportedly as young as 12 years old or something?
I don't think Bill Clinton wants this In the air.
And I think prior to Donald Trump, he just assumed that, you know, nobody's going to bring this up.
No one's got the guts.
But Trump went right at it.
And I think he's taken away Hillary's biggest weapon.
And her other big weapon, of course, is the black vote.
The Democrats cannot win a national level campaign without 80 percent of the black vote.
80 percent of the black vote is a big number.
Blacks are not going to turn out for Hillary the way they turned out for Obama.
In fact, they may turn out for him.
Considerably less than they would for John Kerry, let's say, because there's a perception in the black community that Hillary is the one that ran against Obama and Hillary got Obama in trouble over Benghazi.
They don't like Hillary very much.
And Trump, I saw this number, Steph, it's unbelievable.
Trump was apparently pulling like 40% of the black people that were polled in this.
And if he pulls 20% of them, it's over for them.
They're done.
I think they're in real trouble.
And she may be in prison.
You know, this is a big speculation.
I don't want to run too long with this, but the big spec...
Look, there's no question that she violated the law.
No question that she violated the law on a thousand counts.
It doesn't say they have to be top secret.
It just says she has to turn them in, and she didn't turn into a thousand, twelve hundred of them now.
No question that she...
And they also don't have to be marked as secret, because as Secretary of State, she should know.
That's right.
And so it's not...
There's no question she committed multiple felonies.
So the question is, when the FBI brings the charges, will Loretta Lynch prosecute?
And...
I thought, well, she'll probably just say no.
But what I'm hearing now from one source mostly is that if it turns out the FBI brings charges and the Justice Department doesn't press the charges, then there apparently is going to be a revolution, a revolt in the FBI that the entire FBI staff is, you know, they've been putting up with this crap for eight years now.
But if they're saying, look, we've got so much evidence on this person.
If she doesn't go down, then there is no government anymore.
And if the FBI revolts, then, you know, get Watergate.
Hooray.
Well, and, you know, the people in the FBI don't want to feel like political hacks and pawns, right?
I mean, whatever I may think of the FBI as a whole, the people in there like to feel that they're enforcing some kind of objective law and not just being used as pawns.
That's right.
They have the personality of law enforcement personnel because that's what they are.
That's why they go into that line of work.
And if they are convinced that, you know, it's one thing to have peccadilloes overlooked for...
You know, for political reasons, that's just business in that wretched hive of scum and villainy.
But when you make this kind of case, and it's not just the case, and it's not just the number of times, the security breach, that's what the FBI does, their counter-espionage organization.
When they say, if this person can commit these kind of security breaches and get off, then we'll never be able to prosecute another national security case again, ever.
We'll never be able to prosecute one.
And I think that's the first compelling reason I've heard that made me think that she may actually face charges.
Wouldn't that be just a thing to see?
Oh my God, that mugshot, I'd pay real money for that.
I'll put that on my wall.
It'll be my screensaver.
Yeah, I mean, because of course, I mean, look what happened to General Petraeus, who was far less egregious, and this guy's life was destroyed by this.
And what did, you know, and what did Richard Nixon do?
Richard Nixon probably authorized a minor cover-up to get minor details involved two or three people, no security breach, no national security issues, no one was killed, nothing.
You know, this is, this is, it's not going to happen until we get a new president, but the level of corruption here and lawlessness is insane.
If the next president is a Republican and we hold the two houses, if we don't investigate this stuff, then there is no future for this country.
That's our last hope, I think.
And speaking of lawlessness...
Well, and also I wanted to point out that Ehrlichman and Haldeman...
Who were the people, of course, who did some of the Watergate break-ins, were sentenced for 20 years in prison for a minor break-in where nothing was stolen and it was their first time offenses.
They got 20 years in prison.
They should have gotten 20 years in prison.
And compare this to, I mean, the amount of, like, it's not just the sending and receiving of the emails, the lack of security in the entire setup meant that just about anyone who wanted, I would imagine, could get a hold of this woman's emails and know The inner workings of U.S. foreign policy, that is as catastrophic a breach of national security as you could conceivably imagine.
The top-level negotiating position of the United States of America, including our military assets, their dispositions, everything, is in a washroom.
In an apartment in New York.
You know, these guys can read drives from just, I mean, it's just, it's sitting there.
These, some of these espionage capabilities are unbelievable.
And yeah, it's, it's just plain treason.
And you can't tell me, oh, the president didn't know about it.
Of course he knows about it.
The first time he gets an email.
There's no.gov!
There's no.gov!
At the end of the emails, how would anybody not know this?
Right.
So...
And a sofa in a toilet, man, talk about a data dump.
But anyway, sorry, go on.
The thing about the toilet, I was, I was, I thought the whole thing was just stagecraft.
I just thought it was her just trying to show she's top dog.
I read just a couple days ago that maybe the reason she was so long getting back to the stage was she was so exhausted because of this post-concussion disorder that she has.
I don't know.
But I don't think she's fit.
I know she's not morally fit, and she may not be physically fit.
And I think there's a real chance she could—one thing we can share of, right, is that 2016 is going to be unlike anything before and after.
It will be either the end of the period of lawlessness in this country or the beginning of a period of just absolute banana republic madness, and probably both.
Well, I know which way you and I, of course, are working to tip the scale, and I think that we have as good a shot now as any, because I think people really get that most of what they're told, at least from the left in particular, is just such a load of malarkey.
And I think that the discrediting of the left, because if the left can't manipulate you, then they actually have to come up with reason and evidence behind their positions, which apparently is like sunlight to a vampire.
That's right.
This kid just burst into flames.
It just can't happen.
So what do you think about Trump?
I mean, my attitude towards Trump was, look, he's not a conservative.
He's a complete narcissist.
He's just a blowhard.
He's gonna do all these things.
And yet, and yet, if Donald Trump does nothing other than destroy the liberal media information political complex, if that's all he does, Then he needs a life-size gold medal struck in his honor, and you need to put it on top of the Washington Monument.
I mean, you know, at this point, when I hear a conservative saying, well, he's not a conservative, it's like, well, I certainly agree.
But in a lot of cases, he's not.
I mean...
We'll get into that, but go on.
But in any case, if he continues to do what he's doing, which is basically say, when he says, I didn't call on you, sit down, what are you, CNN? Pfft.
It's the control of the media and it's the control of the media, the politicians and the pop culture, these three big wheels of Hollywood, New York and Washington with the big rolling D that make sure that no truth gets out there because people have said, you know, if we had an actual unbiased news media, forget a conservative news media, a fair news media, the country would vote like Kansas.
And OK, if that's what he does and that's what he does, I'll take it.
Well, my view is that Donald Trump is a glorious supernova on the entire American political landscape.
I've never seen anything like it.
I can't think of a single parallel in history where an unbelievably He's talented, media savvy.
I mean, this guy does the media better than the media does.
And it is so entertaining watching him set trap after trap after trap.
And the media is just like...
You know, every single time.
He's got a bit of William Jennings Bryan in him.
There's a bit of that kind of populism.
He's completely on a different side of the spectrum, obviously.
But he's got this sort of popular confidence.
He's got this sense of...
Untouchability is unbeholden to people, and I think most people find that in this day and age incredibly appealing.
I saw a great article written by a leftist, I think, who basically said, look, the left created Donald Trump.
The country's tired of a bunch of New York intellectuals telling everybody else what to do, what to think, and what to believe in spite of their own lying eyes.
And people just had it.
And Donald Trump's political message is F you, and that's the supporters' message, and I'm kind of in that boat too.
It's like, yeah, okay, yeah, that's how I feel.
I would also argue, because I know that he has, and the word buffoon and, you know, ham-colored snake oil salesman and all that, I mean, this to me is, it's a beautiful image that he's created.
I think the man is fiercely intelligent.
I completely agree.
There's incredible estimates that his IQ is north of 160.
And he has done...
Yeah, the hair helps.
Because of his decoy, he could get the hair fixed.
It's a trademark for him.
It's like one of these, like the angle fish, you know, that has a little lure that dangles in front of him.
People go for the hair and then he just laughs and gets a deal he wants.
You know, it's like if you're going to sit down and play chess for your soul with a guy dressed as a clown.
You know, it's really going to be hard to play your best because he's dressed like a clown, but he may be Garry Kasparov dressed as a clown.
He doesn't care that he's dressed like a clown.
What he cares about is winning the chess game.
And if dressing like a fool means he wins the game, then OK, then that's it.
No, I think that's certainly the most optimistic read of it.
And I think that's probably the most likely read of it.
And the fact that the media continually underestimates Donald Trump, I think as everyone does, I think that the fact that everyone's calling him a buffoon is like glorious to him.
Like if I was in his shoes, it'd be like, great, keep underestimating me, keep writing me off, keep saying that I'm finished, don't ever engage, imagine I'm just about to vanish.
That is by far the best situation for him for the future.
You cannot have people voluntarily give you thousands of millions of dollars and be an idiot.
It's simply not possible.
You can be a stupid person in politics by getting elected one time and praying to people's emotions and using the course of power of the state.
Then you can do that forever.
Just look at Joe Biden who, you know, couldn't run Walmart and couldn't run a Walmart.
But you can't be a multi-billionaire and be an idiot.
It's just not possible.
It's just not.
You can't be in control of that kind of thing and be an idiot.
I struggle to be reasonably good at one thing.
And this guy's like a hydra of competence.
Because, I mean, he's obviously fantastic in business.
He was very good in academics.
The Wharton School of Business is no cheesecake.
I did not know that.
He's written some of the most successful business books of all time.
Like The Art of the Deal is right up there in terms of the top business books.
So he's been fantastic in business.
He's been fantastic in academics.
He's been fantastic as an author.
He's been fantastic as a public speaker.
He's fantastic at television.
He had some of the top rated shows that nobody else has been able to replicate.
They tried it with Martha Stewart.
They tried it with a whole bunch of other people to do this apprentice style thing.
And you notice the apprentice, like now that he's gone, it's gone.
Of course.
Right.
So so the man is and now he's just stumbled into the political arena and he is the most successful politician since Reagan.
You could I mean, even more.
in some ways in that Reagan had, you know, the amnesty thing and some some pretty non Republican positions So the man is a stone genius who is fantastic at just about everything that he does, and man, underestimate him at your peril.
What are the two things that Donald Trump and Ronald Reagan have in common?
Because there's a lot of different policy positions and so on, but they have one thing in common, and that's And that's the fundamental reason why they're both successful.
They're both entertainers.
They're coming from the entertainment business.
There are how many, I don't know how many billionaire and multi-millionaire real estate developers there are in the country and the world, but there's Thousands of them, certainly.
And there's only one with a name.
There's only one person with a name, and that's because he's an entertainer.
He's been able to leverage his ability to be interesting, to make himself a fortune.
And that's what it is about Trump.
He's interesting.
And I think I might have said this last time, but right after the Romney election in 2012, I did a speech about four days after that, and I said, the next president is coming from the pop culture.
I'm telling you, he's gonna come from the pop culture, and he's gonna be a guy who can speak the language of Americans in terms of the simplicity of the pop culture.
That doesn't mean it's stupid.
On the contrary, it's that common sense that is the greatest reservoir of information on the planet.
You know, 320 million people making real decisions in real time on their own is...
If you can swing that middle just by speaking out against the elitists who think they're smarter, you know, these five guys in a Washington room think they're smarter than the rest of the country.
I mean, you have to be an absolute moron and a narcissistic lunatic to believe that you 10 people from the Kennedy School of Business or whatever are smarter than 320 million processors working in real time with local information.
You have to be an absolute moron to believe that, but they do.
And he's calling these people right out.
And he is the first right-winger that I know of, and you probably know more about this than I do, Bill, but he's the first right-winger I know of who's fantastic at using the left-wing media to amplify his message.
I mean, that to me is, that's like snake charming.
Because he, you know, he'll say stuff like...
You know, what he said when he kicked off, right, about he said the immigrants, there's criminals and rapists and so on among the immigrant population.
And then he said, and there's a lot of nice people too.
But of course the media snipped out the part before he said there's a lot of nice people too and amplified and broadcast all of that.
And people were like, wow, he's saying that all Mexican immigrants are rapists and killers and so on, right?
And then they go and get the whole piece and they've just broadcasted his whole message.
And then when people hear the whole piece, they realize how much the media have cut up the message to make him look bad.
So he is using the left-wing media to amplify.
It's like a skywriter on a crowded beach.
And the left-wing media think they're taking him down, and it's just free advertising for him.
That's exactly right.
They're just spreading his message.
No, that's exactly right.
He said something not too long ago.
He said, you know, every time I say something, people say it's lunacy, and a month later, it's policy.
You know, they are doing this.
They're stopping this immigration.
They're taking a look at this.
People want to take a look at this.
People have a right to be interested in the fact that we're not bringing in immigrants who want to give up their former lives.
We're taking in refugees from a country whose entire core value is antithetical to the American experience.
That's something you have a perfectly legitimate right to do before you invite somebody into your home.
So, yeah, and he is using...
What I think is interesting is he using...
The strategies that he talked about in Art of the Deal in his presidential campaign.
In other words, is he purposely going so far forward, asking for so much basically, kind of asking for so much that when it comes time to get serious about the election that he will be able to kind of withdraw a little bit and kind of bring himself back to this position where he ends up getting what he wanted in the first place by making concessions looking more reasonable.
It's hard to imagine what could happen closer.
I mean, my main goal with talking about Donald Trump is to get people to understand the degree to which he's going to smash the media.
I mean, I really believe this car-like, trust-in-me media stuff that has hypnotized pretty much two generations ever since the leftists got kicked out of the State Department and ended up having to Swarm over to the media and to Hollywood.
They've kept people in this grip of leftist delusion for generations.
He is smashing that completely.
Now, what happens after the asteroid takes out the giant snake about to eat your village?
I don't care.
I don't know, but I agree with you.
I don't know and I don't care.
Because the most important thing is to smash this giant ongoing iron rice bowl between the government, the news media, and the pop culture.
If he calls this thing out and destroys it and is elected by destroying it and its power is broken, then I don't care what happens after that.
At least then the voice of the people can get somehow back in the game.
And yeah, I completely agree.
He strikes me as the kind of guy who's kind of doing it because it'd be fun.
And I get the feeling that if he was elected, he would put people into position the way he's always done with business.
Donald Trump doesn't manage the Trump Tower.
You know, and he doesn't manage the casino.
Donald Trump goes out there, he finds the money for the Trump Tower, builds it, promotes it, then he hires the best managers he can find, which are usually the best people in the business, puts them in position, tells them, here's what I want, and if you don't get the numbers I want, I'm going to replace you with somebody who can.
And if that is going to be his style of governance, Then I think most people's reservations about him should vanish.
I mean, if he plans to govern in the same way as he runs his business, that I think is actually extremely hopeful for the country.
Unlike the current narcissist, who is smarter than his speech writers, he's a better speech writer than his speech writer, he's a better campaign manager than his campaign manager, plays basketball on the same level as LeBron, who micromanages everything, even though he doesn't actually accomplish anything.
If Trump basically becomes the president and then appoints, you know, Let's say he appoints Ted Cruz as Attorney General.
I mean, Ted Cruz would be the best Attorney General in the history of this country.
He'd be astonishing.
He'd be perfect.
And Carson would make a fine Surgeon General.
And Carly Fiori would make a fine Commerce Secretary.
I just want to see Rand Paul in charge of the Fed.
Why not?
For 35 seconds.
I'm serious as I can be.
I've been saying this, honest to God, Stephan, I've been saying this for two years now.
If the Republicans wanted to win, they should go to their convention and whoever gets the nomination, they should come out and say, Ben Carson's going to be Surgeon General, Ted Cruz is going to be Attorney General, Marco Rubio is going to be, well, I don't know.
Pick something.
You know, Bolton's going to be Secretary of State and everybody who's in the race is going to have a job and will make Allen West Defense Secretary or something.
And, you know, and then everybody's got somebody in the game.
All the Republicans and conservatives say, well, I didn't get who I wanted, but, you know, I'm going to have Ted Cruz for Attorney General.
I'm going to have so-and-so for Secretary of State or something.
And you come out with a unified team and you tell the American people, this is what you're going to get.
This is who you're going to get.
You're not going to get any surprises.
This is the team.
And if he did that, I think he'd be unstoppable.
He's probably unstoppable anyway.
And without a doubt, just sort of objectively speaking, I can't picture a more competent occupant to the White House with more managerial and media experience and more public experience.
I can't think like, I mean, Ronald Reagan, for all of his virtues, was not somebody who'd managed a multibillion dollar private enterprise that had worldwide interests and so on.
He is by far the most experienced and competent person to occupy the White House.
I mean, the stumble bombs who've been ambling their way through there, you know, from Carter and Ford.
And I mean, just even on, you know, George W. Bush had not had much success in his business career and so on.
And all these guys who just kind of went their way from law to Washington and, you know, usually on daddy's coattails and so on.
And by the way, so anyway, I just think he's a staggeringly competent person to get into the presidential seat.
And it'd be interesting to see what would happen.
And all these people who say, well, his dad gave him some money, it's like, come on, how many people win a million dollars in the lottery every week?
Dozens and dozens of people.
They don't all become...
Ten times billionaires with massive worldwide.
I mean, the fact that he got money is, yeah, okay, it helps, but good lord.
I mean, lots of people get money.
Lots of people inherit money, but they don't do that same thing.
So people should just give up on that.
I agree.
I couldn't agree more, actually.
But if you were to take the office of the chief executive of the country as a chief executive, I think Mitt Romney would have been a superb president.
But what we learned from the election with Mitt Romney is you cannot parachute into the presidency, and the presidency is not just the management of the company.
On the contrary, The president has to be the person who can make the deal with the American people, who can convince them of whatever particular objectives that he thinks is good for the country, and basically sell them on it.
And to say that you have a guy like Mitt Romney, who I think would have been a superb president as a manager, but was not a great candidate because he could not make that human connection, Trump has a similar business background to Romney in very, very similar terms.
Basically, they're high-level businessmen, right?
But Trump is connecting to people in a way that Romney never did because Trump understands the power of He's just interesting.
And he's, as you said earlier, he's just milking this whole thing.
What he's doing is he's committing judo, right?
I mean, this is how judo works.
If you're a small person and you're being attacked by a large person, you can't block the large person because they've got more mass than you do.
So you get out of their way and you use a little tiny bit of force and leverage to push them in the direction where you want them to go.
And their own mass is what uses...
Is what defeats them.
And he's doing that to the news media.
He's using the news media's sense of outrage and hysteria and blowing every horn and people's heads coming off.
He's just riding that all the way to the White House.
He's just using it.
Except in this analogy, the judo, like the small guy is actually the sumo wrestler is landing in the crowd and breaking arms, which is really annoying the hell out of the crowd.
Because the media is like, oh man, he said this about Hispanics.
Isn't he racist?
Isn't he?
Guys, guys, isn't he?
There's nobody around and everyone's like, well, you know, there are some incompatibilities and we are supposed to be a nation of laws and we kind of have wanted to have this conversation since the 65 Immigration Act.
So yes, the idea that we get the sort of white Western European Christian civilization gets displaced by third world people operating under the table and destroying the black community's job prospects.
Yeah, we kind of would like to have a conversation about that because everyone says, oh, let's have an honest conversation about diversity.
Let's have an honest conversation about race.
Let's have an honest conversation about multiculturalism.
And the irony is that in the entire worship of diversity, there are two fundamental ironies.
Number one is that the left is completely undiverse.
I don't think anyone has ever had a meeting in the New York Times where they've said, you know, we've got a lot of leftists here.
We kind of need to mix it up because, you know, at least 40% of the U.S. population is conservative.
Why do we get some conservative writers in here?
We kind of mono culture in here.
The left has no interest in diversity any more than academics and On the left have an interest in hiring people who are coming out of the Milton Friedman School of free market economics.
So that's number one.
The left doesn't care about diversity at all.
And number two is, in diversity, you're only ever allowed to have one opinion about diversity.
You can't ever question it.
You can't ever doubt it.
There is only one rule about how to think in diversity.
That does not seem very diverse to me.
No, we don't care what your skin color is so long as you agree with us on absolutely everything.
And that's basically it.
And we're just the exact opposite.
We're like, you know, we don't much care what your skin color is.
What's your argument?
What are you trying to say as an individual, you know?
And make a good argument and you win.
Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more.
I think it's going to be an interesting year.
It's going to be a spectacularly interesting year.
And I think...
I hope that what we're seeing is this rise of this force that was brought out of...
It was just coalesced out of thin air by people like Hillary Clinton.
Hillary Clinton is the reason that Donald Trump exists.
You know, 40 years of corruption.
A congenital liar when she was 20 or whatever.
She was fired from the staff of this Democrat when she was 23 years old.
Why?
Because she's a congenital liar.
She's just completely, completely untrustworthy.
It was 40 years ago.
And even outside of the...
The whole email scandal, they stole a whole bunch of property from the White House when they left.
They're swine.
And if you steal federal property, you're actually ineligible to run for office ever.
And this is what the American people, I think, are backing Donald Trump for, is they're sick of the lawlessness.
Now, Donald Trump may have billions of dollars, and Donald Trump may be kind of a jerk even.
But he's his own jerk, and he made his own money, and he's a jerk on his own dime.
He didn't walk out of there with the money that you paid for.
He didn't take your furniture.
And little things, not just the furniture.
You know, when his staff left, they pulled all the W's off of all the keyboards.
You knew that, right?
Trivial little petty larceny just designed to show you that we can, you know, just kind of breaking a window just because the window exists kind of quality.
These are the people that we're up against.
And not even to mention the vast numbers of corporations who paid ridiculous sums for 25 minutes of Bill Clinton speeches when they had matters in front of the State Department.
That to me is, I mean, this idea while he was just her husband, you know, bribery laws do not recognize the difference between husband and wife.
You can't circumvent them by giving money to the spouse.
The money's not going to the spouse.
The money's going to the Clinton Foundation and both Hillary and Bill are drawing on it.
So you're exactly right.
So this is how the—it's not just a scam, Stephan.
This is how the treason works.
You've got somebody in Sweden who wants to sell uranium to Iran.
Well, it turns out there are State Department rules against doing that.
Well, could we make a donation to the Clinton Foundation, have Bill come and speak to us for $800,000 or something like that?
Yeah, I suppose Bill could come talk to you for $800,000.
And so the $800,000 goes into the Clinton Foundation.
And the next thing you know, these trade barriers have been lifted by somebody highly placed within the State Department.
We have no idea who that might be.
At the time, just because she was Secretary of State, you know, these trade barriers mysteriously disappear.
And now Hillary has $800,000 to play with for her campaign to tell everybody what to do.
It's not just corruption, it's treason.
And it's multiple cases of it.
And it's corruption on the level of hundreds of millions of dollars.
But that's not the money they're interested in.
They're interested in the trillions of dollars available...
Dinesh D'Souza wrote a book called Stealing America.
I got to interview him about that.
There's another guy who went to prison for having his own opinion.
But Dinesh D'Souza said the most valuable thing in the world, if you're going to steal one thing in the world, the most valuable thing in the world is the private property held by the American people.
$71 trillion.
That's the single biggest pot of money in the world.
And if you're a criminal, why dick around with the small stuff?
What's $100 million?
You've got $71,000 billion of personal assets you can appropriate through the legislative power of the state.
Why not go for the big money?
And that's what they're doing.
Yeah, $800,000 for a speaking engagement.
Whatever it was.
I mean, well, I mean, it's a remarkable fee.
And I feel that if I, say, had groped more people, then I really feel I could start to command those kinds.
Like, if I had inserted more cigars into women's unmentionables, then possibly, you know, that would be a way to start earning those kinds of figures.
Of course, if I was married to someone who could dispose of $71 trillion.
No, that's exactly right.
It's your speaking fee is based on it's $10,000 per grope and it's $50,000 per insertion.
And you basically just work over the course of 20, 30 years.
And the next thing you know, you're getting 800 grand for an hour of your time.
And on the bottom of my card, it will be Stefan Molyneux, professional public speaker.
P.S. You can keep the cigar.
I really don't want it back, although he probably does.
No.
All right.
With that image, should we cross the pond to Europe?
Yeah, go ahead.
It won't save you.
No.
Should we cross the pond to Europe and talk about our friends in the origin of the North American experience?
Yeah, what do you want to say about them?
They had a jolly New Year's, as we mentioned earlier in the show today.
Being...
A conservative.
Being into the free market, being into human liberty means forever being sorry that you're right.
I think that's, to me, what, like, I wish, you know, I wish I was wrong about these predictions.
Like, you know.
Long time ago, I did videos about just what a disaster this was going to turn into.
And it's only starting.
I mean, this is just the beginnings, tip of the spear stuff.
It's just the testing of the resolve of the German people.
This is like the, you probe the defenses.
You know, if you're going to attack people, you send a few hapless red shirts from Star Trek to go and skirt the outskirts of the city you want to besiege.
And you see if anyone notices.
And you keep probing the defenses.
And it seems to me that this is the probing of the willpower and resolution of the Europeans.
So this is happening, of course, in Sweden.
It's happening in Germany.
It's happening in France and other places.
And there is a test of the resolve.
Do you care about your women?
Are you going to fire up?
Do you have a sack that you're willing to maneuver into some sort of aggressive position?
And right now, it seems that it's not really much of a response.
The The response being, this one woman, the mayor of Cologne, was like, well, ladies, just keep an arm's distance.
And I don't know if you're a German if you want to be doing this a lot.
Oh, beautiful.
Nice.
You could probably go to jail for that too.
Yeah, you sure can.
And what are you going to do in a subway?
And what are you like, arm's length, everybody.
And is this what human liberty, is this what our forefathers bled and died for, was so that everyone could try and keep an arm's length?
Does that create a magical shield between you and rapey North Africans?
I don't know.
I mean, this victim blaming, it's just amazing to see that this switch, you never blame the victim, never blame the victim.
It's like, well, you know, ladies, keep an arm's length and you'll be fine.
I mean, I laugh.
I think that the fact that they're saying this kind of stuff has got to be pretty eye-opening to people.
Well, we talked about this in the first show we did last year, and that is that I think the situation has fundamentally changed since this big immigration wave.
I mean, fundamentally changed in Europe.
So the big question I think here is...
If you imagine Europe as a general, the population, the indigenous European population, let's imagine that's like a giant diaphragm, it's 25 feet across, it's an end of a cylinder.
So the question really is, is that cylinder being pushed into open space and it just continues to be pushed forever?
It's just a matter of how long do we push it until it falls over?
Or is it in fact a spring?
Is it every time that cylinder gets pushed, we're putting more energy into a spring and the rebound becomes greater?
And I think you can make a pretty good case that it is in fact a spring because the Europeans, the European psychology, at least as it looks to me over here, is that we have to do these things that we know that make us uncomfortable and we have to do these things that we know are bad for us to atone for.
The horrors of the Third Reich and just European culture in general and all the colonization in the British Empire, all of this.
They've just been fed this since the end of World War II. So we're fundamentally bad people.
That's why we have all this nice stuff, because we stole it from the brown people.
So therefore, we have to allow the brown people and the Islamic savages into our country, even though we can see on a daily basis this isn't working, it's our punishment.
And we're gonna feel good about our punishment.
It's gonna be our way of showing everybody that we're not guilty of the Nazi atrocities, that we're different kind of people, and we're good people, and you don't have to beat up on us anymore.
I really think that's how the psychology of it goes.
However, they are also still people.
And when it's your daughter who comes home molested, Uh, by these gangs that you see on the street below your window every day, you may in public say, well, it's just a misunderstanding, but you can't take the fundamental emotional human response out of it.
And to that degree, I think it is a spring and that spring is being more and more compressed.
And the danger of course is it's always the leftist and the collectivist that compress the string.
And when the spring comes loose, it doesn't always come loose pretty.
In fact, it usually doesn't.
So You have all of the shame and all of this reparations and all of this guilt laid on the Germans after World War I, and the way that the German people express that repressed sense of self and pride and stuff is in the Nazis.
And once again, when you start compressing the spring and you're telling people that they need to believe you and not their own lying eyes, and you need to give up your normal human instincts to protect your wife and your family and to protect your culture and to protect everything that's working, you have to let it go and it's the smart and the right thing to do.
Yes, I agree.
But that emotional spring gets compressed some more.
And I don't think that they can do this forever.
And I think that just the reaction over the New Year's Eve thing is interesting, right?
They tried to say it didn't happen, and then it turns out it did.
And then they tried to say it was just in Cologne.
Well, it turns out it was in other places, too.
Turns out it was all across the continent.
And that news never would have gotten out a year ago.
Ever, I don't think.
I think people are asking serious questions in a way they never did before.
And the fact, look, you know, people say one thing and they do something else.
That's social proof, right?
Oh, no, I'm all in this multicultural thing because we welcome the immigrants.
But if people stand out there and say, we welcome the immigrants, like they've been saying for 40 years, and the next thing you know, you can't buy a gun in Europe anywhere because they've all been bought off the shelves, then that's telling you that people are saying one thing and doing something else.
Well, it's called white flight.
I mean, people say, well, I love a multicultural neighborhood, except, of course, you know, in America, blacks murder at nine times the rate of whites, and that gets a little tiresome if you, say, want to continue to have a pulse.
And so there is this continued white flight away from these areas.
It's not just white flight.
It's successful black flight.
I mean, all you need to know about Reverend Wright and his message of justice to the poor oppressed blacks in Chicago is that the second that he retired from his ministry, he retired to a gated all-white community.
Okay.
What else do you need to know about the guy?
I mean, you know, he goddamned himself right into the nicest part of America that he could find.
And this is always the hypocrisy of these people.
We don't believe that you should have guns to protect yourself.
Really?
Madam Feinstein, well then can I come into your house and talk about it late at night?
No, I have 14 armed guards, you know, and I've got a private security service.
I think we should have open borders.
Really, Jessica Alba?
Well, how about if I come by your house and since you don't believe in gates or doors or boundaries or fences, how about if I come over and just have a snack later on at night?
Maybe we can hang out on the TV, watch some Netflix and chill, just the two of us.
No, you set foot on my property, Jessica Alba says, and the private security company is going to be there before you can take a second step.
It's just nothing but hypocrisy for these people.
They tell you this is the moral, decent thing to do.
Lower your defenses, let everybody in, share your pie, but they don't share anything and they don't pay any extra money and they don't disarm themselves.
It's a giant lie.
And everybody was like, okay, no, no, no.
And everybody was lining up behind the ultimate cuck, Chamberlain.
And then, so British people were like, oh, we really don't want war.
Oh, we really don't want war.
And then finally, it's like, okay, are we going to have war?
Bye-bye Germany, right?
And then it's just like they keep doing it until Germany is a smoking ruin that didn't happen in World War I, but then happened in World War II. And this flip from, you know, as I've said for years, when Europeans, very, very nice, super nice, give you the shirt off their back.
Until they're not.
And then they're really, really not.
You can fly kamikazes into our ships.
You can torture our prisoners.
You can do the rape of Nanking.
Then we're going to drop two nuclear bombs on your homeland.
When Europeans get not nice, they get a whole lot of not nice.
And it's been a long time since the world has seen that.
And it's my...
Strong hope that the world will not see it again.
But, you know, it certainly will happen.
The genetics have not flipped that much in the last 70 years.
Now, I say frequently, one of the first things I ever said in this line of work was that the world hasn't seen America really angry since August of 1945.
That's the last time they've seen this country genuinely all the way angry.
And I heard a stand-up comedian not too long ago.
He was a...
I think he was from Asia.
In English, I heard him on the radio, and he said, you don't want to make America too angry, because if you make them angry, they'll drop 10,000 bombs on you, but if you make them really angry, they'll drop two bombs on you.
And this is the...
This is what guys are like us, who are accused of being warmongers, or I am certainly, is what I'm actually trying to prevent.
I'm trying to make the intellectual argument so we don't have to go to this place.
But, you know, it's so interesting what you said about Churchill and the way that population flipped, because Churchill was demonized as a warmonger in World War I. He had Gallipoli pinned on him, even though it wasn't his fault as the Royal Navy really let him down at Gallipoli.
He had a really brilliant plan to end the war two years early, and they just didn't back him.
So he goes and spends the 30s as a backbencher saying he's building his air force, he's building his army.
This is before he even went into these countries.
And then it was like, no, no, no, it's a legitimate German grievance.
The sedate and lamb is a legitimate grievance.
The Rhineland is a legitimate grievance.
Austria is a legitimate grievance.
And it was the same.
It was the guilt over Versailles.
It's the same thing as the guilt over colonialism.
Exactly, precisely right.
But the thing that's so shocking to me is not that they took so long to wake up.
It's not shocking to me that they took so long to wake up, and it's not at all shocking to me that they rose to the challenge that Winston Churchill gave them.
He said right at the beginning, when they were saying, I mean, he became prime minister the day that they invaded France, I think it was May 10th, it was the day.
And he thought he'd be fighting Germans 200 miles away.
He's fighting them 20 miles away.
Their bombers are gonna take four minutes to get across the channel now.
And Churchill goes to Parliament, and they're saying, make a deal with him.
He likes England.
It'll be his favorite part of the empire.
Just make a deal while you've still got an army.
Churchill goes to the floor of the Parliament, and he says, if this Long Island story of ours is to end, let it end with all of us lying on the floor of this chamber choking on our own blood.
Okay, then.
All right.
So then they fight this war.
They're hanging in this fight for two years by themselves, basically.
And then...
Here's the part I can't understand.
Churchill is thrown out of office before World War II ends.
He's thrown out of office before World War II ends.
He gets to see the victory in Germany in May, but he's out of there before the victory in the Pacific in August.
And how stupid do you have to be?
You know, I mean, you replace Churchill with the exact same people that Churchill replaced.
So in other words, it's like, we need this guy to win the war.
You've just won the war.
And a week or two later, yeah, we don't need him anymore.
What do we need him for?
My head will explode and we'll go on for four days at this part of British history because, of course, after you've spent five years and sacrificed millions and millions of lives fighting national socialists, who do you vote in after Churchill?
The Labour Party who were socialists.
Yeah, that's right.
And that, to me, it's just like the king is dead.
Long live the king!
You know, we've defeated socialism.
Let's get socialism in here because there's nothing spells victory like a minor strike that cripples the country for ten years.
Ten years.
No, that's exactly right.
Britain failed as badly as Germany did in the first five to ten years after the war.
It was self-inflicted.
It's absolute misery.
Britain didn't get back on its feet until 1955.
They spent 10 years paying for the socialist state that they just fought to defeat.
It's inexplicable to me.
You had a whole bunch of And when I say Austrian economist, for those who don't know, that's an Austrian school of economics from Ludwig von Mises, which is super free market stuff.
And so Germany ended up with a far freer market after the Second World War, because they had a minister of finance who was really into the free market and defied a lot of allied orders to create a better currency.
Free up restrictions and remove restrictions on capital and goods and labor and you name it.
And so the weird thing was is that the country that was the totalitarian socialist state ended up with a far freer market after the war than England then descended into this low, multi-decade socialist hell that ended up spitting up Thatcher to try and redress the balance.
And Germany soared off to become dominant within Europe as a result of free market policies because of one guy who came in after the war.
So the degree to which...
England won the war against socialism.
It's like, what a way to piss on the graves of the people who died to bring you freedom by granting more freedom to your vanquished foe than you're willing to accept yourself.
And I would argue the same thing happened in America after the fall of communism.
It's like, finally, we've beaten communism.
Great.
Let's take over the healthcare industry.
Let's take over more of government education.
Let's have a National Bureau of X, Y, and Z. Let's end up with the federal government owning...
Massive tracks of land in the United States.
I mean, it's like madness the degree to which these victories are squandered and you adopt the emblems and flags and curses of your enemies.
Yeah, and it comes back kind of this arcade thing, which we don't need to open up right now, but basically what it comes down to is people don't want to believe that there's an external threat, and they will not believe there's an external threat, and they will not look at it.
Some people will look at it.
That's why we're in the line of work we are, and that's why our followers are followers because they can see the threat too.
But most people don't want to look at the external threat.
They want to bury their hands in the sand and pretend it doesn't exist.
Until finally, it's that inability to face it that allows it to grow in the first place.
Islam wouldn't be a problem for the West if Islam decided to do something about...
I mean, if the West decided to do something about Islam, it's probably over in a very, very short period of time.
But we refuse to look at it until it's something where they fly into our buildings.
Not only it's like flipping a coin that landed on its side, right?
Half the country got it, the other half didn't.
But basically what I'm trying to say is it's the victory that energizes people and then that Western aspect of European Western culture comes out, which is now you've done it, now you're wrecking the show, and now we're going to make you pay.
And the second it's over, the second it's over, the second the wolves are no longer visible on the hill, People go back to being rabbits again.
And they will be rabbits until there are 20,000 wolves that come down and start eating us enormous, doing incredible damage, at which point we go through this transformation again into this sort of It's an unbeatable warrior civilization, right?
You can't beat the West when the West is fully at war because the West is a cooperative society and scientific society and it's built on trust and it's built on all kinds of different levels of input from individual people.
We're invincible warriors when we're in warrior mode.
But because life is so good, we will not look at the threats while they're still manageable.
We have to wait until they're almost It's unbeatable, at which point, finally, people say, well, I guess we're going to have to go to war, just like you said with Britain.
I guess we can't avoid it anymore.
Now, if we're going to have to go to war, let's get a war leader.
Here he comes.
So the second that the Nazi wolves are off of the hill, the second, the instant, I mean, within five or six days of the surrender of the Germans, this sheepdog that came forward to save this culture, the second the wolves are gone, we don't need you anymore.
And what happens to the wolves, right?
Well, it turns out it's not German wolves.
As you said, they turned into...
Great people.
Wolves are coming in from the south now.
Now we have to wait and go through this whole cycle again.
Well, also, they lost the colonies, and there were a lot of administrators who needed a non-business occupation, so they wanted to create a bunch of government agencies for all of their friends coming back from India and Africa.
Yeah, so it's the political class, the bureaucrats.
Guess what?
They screwed us again.
These miserable little control freaks have destroyed civilization throughout civilization, and we can't recognize that this is the problem?
We'd be out of trouble.
If I was to be...
If I was to be chairman of the GOP and the Republican National Committee, I'd never lose an election again because I would say to the American people, here's the position of the Republican Party from now on.
No re-election to the same office.
Period.
Full stop.
That's it.
We believe in a country of 320 million people that once you've been here two years, your information's obsolete.
If you do a great job as a representative, then fine, run as a senator.
No re-election, no lobbying, no control, no money, no spending half of my term to get elected for the next term.
Nope, nope.
We figure if this guy did a great job, he can go back and get back in his business and somebody else back there, come forward with new problems that occurred during the last two years.
And if we said that, we'd never lose.
And if we said that and did it, We'd be unbeatable, because we wouldn't have this perpetual political class, and Washington isn't governed by representatives and senators.
It's governed by the immortal, invisible, anonymous bureaucracy.
There are guys, I talked to a senator in Arizona, just as a quick aside, and this certainly happens on the federal level.
This guy was a conservative, got elected into Arizona, and he started getting bills written.
He was a lawyer, wrote some bills, and he looked at the text of the bill as it was finished by his staff.
And they not only changed the words of its step, and they completely inverted the intent.
Because these bureaucrats are saying, hold on a minute, this bill is going to reduce salaries and it's going to cut jobs.
We'll just change the language a little bit.
People need to be in jail.
And tired and feathered.
You know, if it weren't for the other, they might just as soon walk.
A thing I wanted to touch on, and I just did a show on this today, so I'll just at least give my side very briefly about this issue.
This crying commander-in-chief over gun control, I don't even know what to say.
I don't buy it.
Well, first of all, Obama seems to be really interested in keeping weapons out of the hands of bad people.
You don't get a lot of play in the media about this basic fact that he is about the biggest arms dealer the world has ever seen.
In the first five years, He sold more arms abroad than George Bush did during his entire eight-year term.
He sold $47 billion or $44 billion worth of Apache helicopters and missiles and tanks to the Saudis.
The Saudis, for God's sakes.
Can we get a background check on the medieval despots from the middle?
Like, the Saudis who, like, were the majority of the 9-11 hijackers came out.
He's coming from Saudi Arabia, America supplying weapons, and he's concerned that some guy who got treated for depression might get hold of a Saturday night special.
There's so much to say about that.
First of all, not just sold billions of dollars of guns overseas, the number of guns he sold domestically is incredible.
Somebody said if you look at the stock share position of Smith and Wesson at the beginning of the Obama presidency versus today, I mean seriously, a $50,000 investment, they wouldn't make you a millionaire today.
He sold more guns than anybody in American history.
And rightfully so.
You know, to be there crying and then to be seen wiping it away, you know, this is really the essence of what this guy is, right?
He's the guy who plays the role of the greatest president in history and the media plays the same, they're reading off of the same script.
He's the smartest man to ever live.
He's the multicultural guy.
You know, he's well-educated, he understands all sides of the issue, but the country's just too stupid for him.
The country's too stupid and too primitive for him.
How hard it must be to be Barack Obama, to see so much truth and so much justice and to be unable to enforce these simple, obvious things on this brutal, stupid population.
You know, this country, this president deserves a better country, really, is the attitude of Obama and the media.
It's like Look at the man.
You've reduced him to tears, you miserable savages who want to defend your own lives for some obscure reason when nobody even knows who you are.
We don't even know who you are.
We've never heard your name before.
You live in Des Moines, for God's sakes.
What do you want to live for?
You know, it's like, you know, the raw nerve of this country and how awful it must be to be Obama and to be that incredibly deep and kind and just and wise and, you know, sensitive.
It's enough to make a grown man cry when you think about it.
And I don't buy it.
I know what stagecraft is.
I could start crying now if I really wanted to, you know?
I think about, you know, a big scary head.
Yeah, I feel that he looks at the American population like Michelangelo would look at a bundle of sticks and say, I don't think I can make a David out of this because it's just a bundle of sticks.
Poor sticks, how sad.
And I just, to me, gun control is one of these basic intelligence tests.
Like when people say, oh, the government went out and created 500 jobs.
Like idiots say, good, 500 jobs.
And the smart people say, okay, well, what about the 1,500 jobs that weren't created because you took all this money to create these jobs?
With gun control, people say, well, people with guns did bad things, so let's get rid of the guns.
It's like, do you have an IQ of 90 or below?
Okay, then you'll be sympathetic to that position.
The smarter people say, well, what about the two and a half million crimes every year that are prevented because people have guns?
They don't make the headlines because they're prevented.
What about the fact that Americans have guns, unlike people in England, so there are far fewer home invasions because people don't know who's gone.
You don't even have to have a gun to gain the penumbra benefit of people who have guns.
And it's just one of these tests.
Can you see how weepy I've gotten hearing you say all those things?
When I think about the amount of criticism that this president has to endure, honestly, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
When I think about all that Barack Obama has to endure and the injustice of it, It just is enough to make me weep.
I mean, this can't possibly be stagecraft on my part, right?
I mean, it can't just possibly be the fundamental rhetorical skill that everybody who has to be successful in communication can do, right?
I don't believe you, Barack.
I'm sorry.
I don't believe you.
I don't believe that four years after the fact, you are moved to tears.
At the very moment that the cameras are rolling, I don't believe you.
You have no policies.
Your entire presidency is an utter failure and you're crying for sympathy.
It is the last trick you have in the bag.
That makes me happy.
Makes me smile.
Makes me smile seeing you cry because it makes me realize you literally have nothing.
In fact, you really begin the press conference by saying, essentially, These nonsensical procedures that I'm going to enforce against the will of the people and by grossly exceeding my legal limitations in the Constitution will not have affected Sandy Hook in any way.
They wouldn't have impacted Sandy Hook in any way.
So we're going to begin the discussion by saying these are utterly meaningless regulations that I'm going to impose on you.
That wouldn't have made any difference at all, but it's so emotional for me that I'm going to just burst into tears over it.
And it's like, you know what, dude?
If you're going to burst into tears about Sandy Hook, why don't you do the real thing?
Why don't you just say, no, guns are illegal and we're coming to get them all.
If you're going to make the dramatic play, make the script live up to their performance, right?
I mean, if you're going to go to all the trouble of crying and getting all the liberals in the country to go, oh, it's terrible to live in this awful place, then just do the deed, you know?
If you're going to use executive order to steal our freedom, then steal it.
The guy is such a lightweight.
There's so much nothing there.
He's made of neutrinos or something.
He's got this kind of form, but he's got no mass.
I don't think he throws a reflection, and I don't think he weighs anything.
I think he's a projection of some kind.
Yeah, I mean, if you've ever seen pictures of him working out with those little girl guide tassel weights, I mean, it really is.
I think I can explain the whole thing.
Somewhere I must have had my, in an alternate universe, I must have actually gotten to a, as I've always wanted to be, a command of Mars mission.
I probably found a cave in Mars or something, and undoubtedly what happened was I went down into these subterranean caverns, and I found the giant Krell mine machine, and Barack Obama is the personification of all of my Horrid dreams and nightmares all of my worst anxieties and fears manifested by this giant space machine because I don't see what the guy does other than just simply make people like us Nutty.
That's actually a good thing.
It really is if you get down to it, because if you think about the fact that this guy's had the reins of power for eight years now, and all he's accomplished is he's destroyed everything.
He's managed to erode everything.
But in terms of structurally, right, he's written all these executive orders that can simply be unwritten by the next president.
Executive order number one for Ted Cruz or Trump or whoever, avoiding all previous executive orders.
That legacy's gone.
And the only thing he's got on the table is Obamacare, which is disintegrating because of those iron laws of economics, which he just can't stand.
What has this guy's legacy been?
Is there one person ever, I know they won't admit it, but is there one person, honestly, I'm asking one person in this country who in the dark of night who voted for him in 2008 is not disappointed with this guy?
Is there one person who thinks, man, I thought he was awesome in 2008, but he blew all my expectations out of the water.
I don't know.
I mean, the fact that he brought up Obamacare, you know, he's, oh, you can keep your doctor.
It turns out not to be true.
Oh, we're going to save you $3,500 a year.
Not telling you, that's costing thousands.
I mean, that's, I mean, how does the guy come with a straight face?
I mean, he's got to be mental.
Like, seriously insane because he's...
Can bring this stuff up?
He can't.
This is the point.
He can't even fail competently.
That's kind of what I'm saying.
It's not like Obamacare caused people to riot in the streets and the country fell apart and the next thing you know there's smoking ruins.
He can't even destroy the country competently.
It's obviously his mission.
He was brought into power by this giant wave of liberals.
He was going to be the guy who was going to heal race relations, right?
He was going to get us into a post-racial future.
Just the fact that white America Predominantly white America elected a black president meant that was the end of it.
It was over.
This was our evidence to the black American community.
This was the evidence that the white community in overwhelming proportions is not in fact racist.
We're going to turn the keys of the government over to this to this unqualified unknown individual specifically and only because he's black.
Therefore, we're doing what the Europeans are doing, right?
The Europeans are atoning for their Nazism.
We're atoning for our slavery.
We're going to this utterly emotional, utterly ridiculous, catastrophic, ruinous policy to show everybody that we're not guilty of something.
And you know what?
People like you and I are not affected by this disease because I'm not responsible for what my dad did.
And I'm not responsible for what my granddad did or my great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather.
My great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather could have been Nathan Bedford Forrest and it wouldn't affect me because I didn't do it.
The fact that my grandfather came here from England in 1915 doesn't have any meaning to the people who talk about my white privilege and it's all based on slavery.
My family wasn't here while there were slaves in America.
My family was in Lancashire in a little town called Wigan And they were cotton carters working in a textile mill.
Six hours a day, six days a week, 10 hours a day in freezing cold conditions.
And before that, they were coal miners.
So I'm not susceptible to this argument.
I don't buy it.
I never did buy it.
I didn't own any slaves and therefore I'm not responsible for slavery.
I'm not benefiting from slavery because I never owned any slaves.
And likewise, if you were not a slave yourself, you were not a victim of slavery.
Now, they'll say, well, you know, we didn't have to rehash this whole thing.
You know, America was built on the back of slavery.
No, the Confederacy, not just the Confederacy, specifically the cotton, the cotton industry in the Confederacy was, in fact, built on the back of slaves, and that was utterly destroyed with the Civil War and utterly burned to the ground and structurally and physically and And philosophically and politically, it burned to the ground in 1865, and everything that's happened after the Civil War has been by paid laborers working hard for a living.
A lot of blacks have been a part of that.
A lot of blacks were a big part of the manufacturing boon in the North and so on.
That's the labor that they earned.
But this whole idea that this is the result of slavery, there's nothing in this country that survived the Civil War that was the result of slavery.
Well, I mean, the fact is that only four or five percent of whites in America own slaves anyway.
So if whites are somehow collectively guilty for slavery, there are more black criminals as a percentage of population than there ever were white slave owners.
I would never in my wildest dreams say that the black community as a whole is responsible for criminality.
So how on earth with even worse statistics or more beneficial statistics and fewer white people owning slaves and black people are criminals, can whites somehow be collectively responsible for slavery, even if you take out The age gap.
White people in general hated slavery.
It drove down wages.
You were conscripted for these slave hunting expeditions.
I mean, it was just, and then 600,000, 800,000 young men died supposedly fighting it.
How on earth was slavery a benefit to the average white person?
It's ridiculous.
I mean, it was a hated institution by just about everyone except the slave owners and the government.
That's right.
And most of the Confederate officers, and many of the Confederate higher officers owned slaves, but virtually none of the men did.
In fact, essentially none of them.
You're not going to be in the ranks of the Confederate army If you've got slaves, you're going to be a colonel, you're going to be a general, and those guys did own slaves.
But look, I don't know if we've had this conversation before, because when we get into this kind of topic, it's important, I think it's important to me, To show how I really feel about this.
And the way I really feel about this is to bring up, I think, the greatest tragedy in American history is not the Civil War.
I think the greatest tragedy in American history is what happened after the Civil War.
It's not slavery and it's not the Civil War.
It's what happened after.
If you want to get to a tragedy in the sense of, like, the truest meaning of tragedy, not just the flow, it's a tragedy, genuine meaning of tragedy where a good outcome could have happened, but then through some act of God or something, a horrible outcome happened.
If that's the definition of tragedy, you have to have a good outcome as a possibility.
Otherwise, it's not a tragedy.
So, after the Civil War is over, you have this giant ongoing debate that ran for years, decades probably, between two camps, and the two camps were headed by Booker T. Washington on one side and W.E.B. Du Bois on the other side.
Booker T. Washington said, listen, we have to deal with the reality on the ground.
We've been free to slaves.
Most of us have no skills whatsoever.
Most of us black Americans are going to have to go back and work on farms.
And many of us are going to have to go back and work on the same farms we just left to slaves.
And we'll be paid to do it.
And we're going to have to do this because it's all we know how to do.
But if we go back and work as farmers, our children will be mechanics and their children will be doctors.
And he said, basically, we cannot expect the white community to grant us respect.
We're gonna have to earn it.
We're gonna come into this culture with our own economy, with our own money, with our own jobs.
We're going to hire white people to work for us.
And we're gonna come in as equals.
And this is what he said.
And that's why when he started the Tuskegee Institute, he had standards.
And the Tuskegee Institute had a higher graduation rate than the white average.
It had a higher legitimacy rate than the white average in America.
They were better citizens in virtually every way, because he said, this is how we have to earn the respect.
Now, on the other hand, you have W.E.B. Du Bois, who's basically saying, no, no, no, white America, give us the power and the money, especially the money.
And we, the talented 10th, that's the term he used, the talented 10th, the 10% of the black population that can actually think is essentially what W.E.B. Du Bois was saying.
We, the talented 10th, will distribute this money and power down to the black community, and therefore, that's how we'll lift the whole race up.
But guess what happens?
They won the argument, by the way, to the unfettered disaster of the future of this country, and these black leaders then go out, and what do they do?
They do what Reverend White did.
They took the money, and what Sharpton does, and what Jesse Jackson does.
They took the money, they kept it, they ginned up all this rage and indignation, didn't provide jobs, didn't provide any kind of help at all, And so, right at this turning point in American history, at the end of the 1800s, early 1900s, we went down the wrong road.
And you can make a case I think you can actually make the case that if Booker T. Washington had won that argument, if Booker T. Washington's attitude is, we not only have to be as good as white people, we have to be better than them, because that is the only way that we're going to be accepted as equals in this society, you could make the case that if we followed that rule, and the evidence was he could do it, because he did it at Tuskegee, and the Tuskegee Airmen never lost a bomber, had substandard training, had substandard equipment, they were terrific pilots.
You could make a case that if we followed that road, maybe black people would be almost like a priesthood.
You'd go up to a black person and ask them for a translation of Latin.
Or maybe you'd go to a black guy to ask him, how do I keep my family together?
Or can you give me some kind of financial advice that I could use?
You know, this is what happens when you hold people to a higher standard as individuals versus what happens when you tell them that all of your failures and all of your crime and all of your horrors and all of your dysfunction is due to something that happened 150 years ago and just believe me and I'll bring the money and the power and And then off he rides in his limousine and we never see the guy again.
The catastrophe.
And it was a similar, I don't know, I'm sure it's similar in the U.S., but here in Canada, of course, it's the same thing with the native population as well.
I didn't know you were in Canada.
Yeah.
Can't you see the snow?
I didn't know that.
That's just a giant wall of snow.
Are you Canadian?
Yeah.
I'm a Canadian citizen.
I was born in Ireland.
I grew up in England, but I came to Canada when I was young.
So the natives, you give the money to the tribal chiefs and what happens?
They just basically hold people as hostages to throw at white guilt in case it ever wavers in its dedication to continually fire hose money in an attempt to buy off Unpleasant feelings of guilt, like you're praying to some Catholic priest.
I mean, it's just a mess.
And what they do is they use the white guilt to get the money, and then they distribute a percentage of it to the community, but not a big percentage of it.
They get very rich off of this, and they live lives like kings, and they live among the whites.
I mean, let's just speak the truth here, why don't we?
Let's just speak the truth, why don't we?
If Reverend Wright preaches about all of this white oppression, and the first thing he does when he's made his millions of dollars in that church is moving to a white community, let's just speak the truth about it.
So they gin up all this resentment.
They gin up all this rage.
They get money from the guilt from the white community.
And in order to make the scam continue to work, instead of lifting the black community up, because if they actually lift the black community up, they're out of a job.
Right?
Frederick Douglass talked about these kind of people all the time.
And Martin Luther King talked about these kind of people all the time.
But if they raise the black community up, they're out of a job.
So what they do is they continue to provoke the sense of rage and the sense of entitlement and the sense of injustice.
And keep people poor and keep them violent because ultimately that's the second half of the scam.
The carrot is we're going to use white guilt to get the money and the stick is we're going to say, well, if we don't get the money, these streets are just going to catch fire.
If we don't continue to get the money, then your cities are going to burn to the ground.
And we don't want that to happen.
We don't want that to happen, right?
So, this attitude, this W.E.B. Du Bois pathway that we took as a nation, has kept five generations now, six generations of black Americans in slavery, when what Booker T. Washington not only talked about, but actually achieved, was in fact, it's not like a hypothetical alternative, he was doing it.
If you look at, just look at the standard of, if you watch like Boardwalk Empire, You know, there's a tremendous amount of actual racism in there, but you can see some of the educated blacks in Boardwalk Empire In the early 1900s.
And these people are playing the piano and they're getting their master's degree.
And you look like guys like Scott Joplin or Thelonious Monk.
They're writing this incredible music.
And now, you know, what are you going to say to these guys?
What are you going to say to Martin Luther King and Frederick Douglass and Thelonious Monk and Scott Joplin and all the rest of these guys?
If you show them what rap culture is and you show them what's being sung about and the musical score is tick, tick, tick, boom, tick, tick, tick, boom.
You look at the score from something like Solace or something, it's a masterpiece.
It's the American catastrophe, this decision.
And nobody talks about it.
I think Booker T. Washington is one of the greatest Americans who ever lived.
I think he's one of the greatest people who ever lived.
Because like so many people, What makes our philosophy work?
Why is the West successful?
Why?
Successful because we say you are an individual, you are the master of your own destiny.
If we create a society where you can work as hard as you want to or as little as you want to and give you the opportunity to unleash your own passion for your own life's control, then everybody goes up.
The black community was deprived of that.
That's my white privilege, actually.
I do have a white privilege.
My white privilege is that no one ever told me that anybody else other than me was responsible for my multiple failures.
And I have failed so many times in my life, I can't even tell you.
This is the fifth or sixth business I've run.
The other ones were just flaming wreckage.
But my white privilege is that I didn't get to blame those other failures on anybody else.
I had to look at myself and say, what did you do wrong last time, you idiot?
Oh, Maybe I should have paid the taxes, or oh, maybe because I can't do accounting, maybe I should hire an accountant, or oh, maybe I didn't know about, whatever, right?
I didn't get to blame it on anybody else.
I didn't have the luxury of blaming it on anybody else, and I certainly didn't have somebody behind my shoulder telling me all the time, hey man, it's not your fault.
It's not your fault that you screwed this thing up.
It's not that you were either too lazy or you didn't know what you were doing.
It's not because you didn't work hard enough.
It's because they were trying to keep you out of the business, man.
You know, all the big liberals were trying to keep you out of the business.
No, I didn't have anybody to blame but myself, so...
Oh, yeah.
I mean, the white guilt industry is literally like Iago whispering in Othello's ear, propelling him to self-destructive actions nonstop.
And we have to keep pushing about it.
It's interesting, isn't it?
That's exactly what it is.
It's kind of like this evil voice of this white guilt.
He's a courtier, Machiavellian kind of, certainly the most evil character that Shakespeare ever wrote.
He's the epitome of evil.
And he's constantly telling you, you know, he's constantly telling you, oh no, the thing that you think is virtue is not virtue.
The worst of human nature prevails.
And even though you want to believe in the good, it's actually the evil.
And he commits this horrible murder of the woman he loves because of this poison.
It's literally poison.
That's how they used to poison people.
They'd put like heavy metal in your ear and, you know, you'd just die from mercury in your ear.
They would poison your ear while you're sleeping.
And that's what these people are doing.
They're poisoning the ears of 30 million people while they're sleeping and filling them with resentment and rage where they should have been filling them with a sense of achievement, a sense of possibility, a sense of control over their own destiny.
And that's what they would have done if they were responsible.
That's what they would have done if they loved their own communities.
But they don't.
They want the money and the power.
And they will send their community to hell If you've ever seen Baltimore, downtown Baltimore on a Saturday night, it's as pretty close to hell as you're going to get on this planet.
They're going to commit their own people to a life of hell so that they can get the money and the power that they do not have the intelligence or the hard work for to go out and get on their own.
As the song says, meet the new boss.
Same as the old boss.
All right, Bill, I've got to finish up the interview.
Always a great pleasure to chant.
For my listeners, please, please, please go to BillWhittle.com and get speeches, get materials.
Well, you know, if you get a chance to see Bill speak live, I haven't had as yet the opportunity.
Otherwise, you would have heard my jealous hackling from the audience.
Shut up, you!
Yeah, yeah.
Call that a haircut?
But yeah, you got to watch Bill's stuff, read Bill's stuff.
It's fascinating and entertaining.
And I also wanted to put forward one last apology on behalf of my listeners who railed against you as a statist.
And from their perspective...
Yeah, from their perspective, a status is anyone who likes government at all.
The technical definition, which I actually went to check, is somebody who believes that the government should have a substantial role.
Not a role at all, a substantial role in society, which is certainly not you.
You want about as much government as I want a mohawk, and so you are not a status by that definition, and people were wrong to rail you against it, and you were entirely right to rail back, and I just wanted to get behind and help you shoulder that burden.
I know it's been keeping you up at night.
Actually, the second I got it out of my system, I got it out of my system.
There's all terms, we all have terms that we're...
When you're in this line of work, you expect certain attacks.
You expect to be called a Nazi.
You expect to be called a racist.
That's fine.
I'm misogynist.
All that stuff.
That's fine.
I don't care because I'm speaking the truth.
But the one thing that does get under my skin is when I get called something which is the opposite of what I'm fighting for.
It's the antithesis of what I'm fighting for.
And that got under my skin.
But...
The sentence I like, I just think it's actually kind of pithy.
It's like, here's what I want.
I don't want a big state.
I want a government that would fit inside the box it originally came in.
That's what I want.
I want a limited government that fits inside the box it originally came in.
And I want, if somebody asked me what the ideal society would be for human beings, it would be a society that followed the Constitution of the United States precisely as written without another comma in it, but enforced.
Enforced.
Commerce Clause enforced in its original meaning and the separation of powers are enforced and the spending is enforced and the growth of all these agencies like the Bureau of Land Management and the Department of Energy and the EPA, they don't exist.
They don't exist because they're not legal.
They're not justified.
So, BillWhittle.com.
I'm at FreeDomainRadio.com.
Always a great pleasure, Bill.
I'm sure we'll talk again.
And it's good to see you looking hale and hearty in the new year.
It's going to be an adventure ride.
I'm going to get a little scrunchy.
Are you going to any of the conventions?
You know, I might make an appearance at CPAC. For some reason, I just didn't think, you know, it made a whole lot of sense for me to be at the single greatest conservative, you know, convention there.
You mean, am I going to be at the Republican convention or anything?
Yeah, I mean, just by the by, we're thinking of going to do some man-on-the-street stuff.
Well, then let's go.
I mean, yeah, I'd love to go.
I have no plans to go, but we can stand there and watch the parade go by.
We can wave, you know?
Oh no, I'll do some shows talking to some people.
I want to find the anti-Trump people and just dig into what their issues are.
But we'll let you know what we're doing in case we can meet up.
We can make up matching signs that say, I'm with Stupid.
We can just stand there and just hold them and get a dollar per picture or something out of it.
Excellent.
Thanks, buddy.
Great to chat with you, Bill.
I'm sorry I've got to run.
My daughter is lurking around the house and I've got to get back to parenting.
But always a real pleasure, man.
And we'll let you know when this is up and we'll talk to you soon.
