Dec. 22, 2015 - Freedomain Radio - Stefan Molyneux
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3158 The Forced Redistribution of P00ntang - Call In Show - December 21st, 2015
Question 1: [1:06] - I was a little bit confused when you recently said "hard-work is a tad bit overrated". You previously made a video titled "Screw Talent" where you explain that you had to work really hard to get to where you are. Have your views on inherent ability and hard-work changed over the years? Question 2: [49:49] - What are your thoughts on the work of John Rawls? How do his central ideas compare to yours? Which of his ideas do you agree with the most? And which do you agree with the least? Are his ideas on justice compatible in any way with a free society? Overall, do you feel that John Rawls helped or hurt the field of philosophy? Rant: [1:08:55] - The Forced Redistribution of P00ntang!Question 3: [1:15:57] - Dream Analysis including thoughts on Female Responsibility, Sexual Market Value, Political Correctness, UFOs, the Mainstream Media and Donald Trump!Freedomain Radio is 100% funded by viewers like you. Please support the show by signing up for a monthly subscription or making a one time donation at: http://www.freedomainradio.com/donate
The first question was, have I changed my mind about hard work versus talent?
Because I've said, ah, hard work is a bit overrated, but I've also said that hard work is essential and talent is overrated.
And we talked quite a lot about that and how to be kind to yourself in pursuit of what you love.
And I hope that makes sense.
We've got some new data, new data on talent and hard work and so on.
And it varies by occupation, which we'll get into.
Question two.
There's a philosopher named John Rawls.
He had a theory of justice.
We've talked about him briefly before.
And it's central ideas of justice and the welfare state and so on.
How do they fit into what I talk about?
And I actually do a pretty good imitation of John Rawls or someone like him talking about some really surprising stuff.
So I hope you enjoy that.
And the last question.
It was a lengthy one, but a good one.
A dream analysis about men and women, resources, immigration, aliens, Donald Trump, you name it.
It was a fantastic dream, very instructive, very illuminating.
And not just in terms of the content, but the form of how we can talk about dreams and how great they can be in teasing stuff out about what we think and how we live.
So without any further ado, here is the show!
Alright, up first today we have Tai Wan.
He wrote in and said, referencing podcast 3106, he says, Overall, I really enjoyed the conversations, but I was a little bit confused with the last caller, where you said, Hard work is a tad bit overrated.
Previously you made a video titled, Screw Talent, where you explained that you had to work really hard to get where you are.
Have your views on inherent ability and hard work changed over the years?
I'm really curious about where you stand right now, and I hope that you will address my question.
That's from Taiwan.
Hi, Taiwan.
How are you doing?
Hey, I'm doing fantastic.
How are you?
Good.
So, I'm going to assume that you're of the Asian persuasion?
Yes, I am.
So I'd ask, in cliches of the show, an Asian guy concerned about hard work versus talent is not way outside the bounds.
I've just sort of mentioned that.
I hear you, man.
That's true.
And what's your history with this kind of stuff?
Well, let's see.
Let me just give you an example of my math academic performance.
So when I was young, I've actually never had to study for a math test, and I pretty much dominated my entire classmates all the way from fourth grade to 12th grade.
You genetically endowed superhuman bastard.
Yeah, whether that's from genetics or whether that's from better curriculum, like maybe I could have had better mathematical curriculum during kindergarten through fourth grade, whether that's Environmental or genetic, I don't think it's important.
But I had this advantage over my peers when I came to the States.
But I squandered away my advantage.
So I took the GREs and I scored a little bit above average in the quantitative section.
And so I had this advantage, but I started tapering off later in life because I didn't devote as much hard work I only devoted as much as I needed to be one step ahead of my peers, if you know what I mean.
Right.
Okay, so go on and tell me, how does that show up in terms of your life as a whole?
Well, how does it show up?
Yeah.
Sorry, that's a kind of confusing question.
You said it tapered off, right?
The reason I'm asking is you said it tapered off.
I'm just sort of like, how do you know?
Like maybe this is your maximum or whatever it is, right?
I mean, you said if you'd worked harder, maybe you'd have gone further.
So how has that sort of shown up?
Has your career sort of languished or how does that work?
Well, I guess my only example I have is the GRE that I took and I'm scoring above average.
I mean, I think if I worked hard, my Ability to be good at math could have exponentially increased.
I have no null hypothesis for that.
I don't know if that's true or not.
Right now I'm doing research and there's a little bit of math involved in that.
But other than that, it's just something that I'm not interested in as a whole.
Oh, so you're good at it, but you're not that interested in it.
Well, I'm above average.
I'm kind of close to average.
I'm not really good at it because I haven't really devoted a lot of time on improving my mathematical abilities or theories or something like that.
Right.
Okay.
So you have some native ability, I guess you could say, in that you didn't have to work that much in high school, but as sort of time went along, you felt that you fell behind relative to your early potential?
Yes, that's exactly it.
And I think this, to sort of connect this to a bigger picture here, I think this relates to RNK's election theory a little bit.
Because when you have, for example, when you have an abundance of resources, people tend to work less.
I mean, when you have the welfare state, people are just going to be dependent on the government.
They're not going to work harder to get out of it.
Similarly, I had an abundance of, I'm going to say abundance, but I had an advantage.
But like I said, I squandered away because I had that That abundance of ability, so to speak.
Well, but now you're saying causal stuff, right?
So you're saying, because I was really good at something, I squandered my abilities away.
That sounds very kind of domino, if that makes sense.
Yeah.
When you think about the R&K selection theory, it's kind of like that as well.
Wouldn't you agree?
Well, hang on.
How we tie your abilities, abilities as a whole, work versus talent into R&K, that's quite a big topic.
And I'd rather stay with your sort of personal experience and life at the moment.
I mean, I could do that as a solo cast.
I don't want to necessarily do it while we're having a conversation.
Okay.
So what was the question again?
Sorry.
All right.
Let me ask things a different way.
If you don't like it, you're generally not going to get very good at it.
Like, this is true of just about anything, right?
Right.
Because you have to have some pleasure.
Like, it can't just be a work ethic that keeps you going, because then you're just like a, you're like in a gulag or a prison of excellence.
And there has to be pleasure In what it is that you do in order for you to want to work at it.
I mean, hard work is important and sometimes it is work and sometimes it's not a lot of fun.
But for the most part, you have to really enjoy something in order to achieve excellence within that thing.
And that's what I was saying.
Well, if you don't really...
Like math that much.
I don't know how you can say, in a sense, you failed if you have not rigorously applied yourself to something that you don't really find enjoyable.
Like, for instance, for me, studying foreign languages, hell itself.
It literally, like, studying new computer languages, the very stuff of heaven, studying human languages, all of the irrational accumulation of crap that we call human language, that's horrible to me.
Like, I pay good money to never...
Never do that.
You know, there's these ads for learning language, you know, like, he was a farm boy from Iowa.
He only had one chance to meet the supermodel from Italy and impress her.
And it's like, I don't care how hot the supermodel is from Italy.
If I can get through life without learning Italian, or there's an old saying that said, no matter how long you live, life is too short to learn German.
So that to me is now other people, like there's not the actor, but the explorer, Sir Richard Burton from, I think, 19th century.
The guy knew like dozens of languages, and he picked them up like nobody's business.
And it was sort of...
Like the language acquisition modules that we all have as infants probably just stayed up in his brain throughout his life.
So some people can pick up languages very easily, and for other people it's very tough.
Now for me to say, I'm going to go and be a translator, could I do it?
Well, I guess to some degree, but it really would be like pushing a whole lot of rocks uphill.
Because I don't like it.
You know, and I've studied, I spoke German apparently quite well when I was very young.
I've studied German, I've studied French, and I... Can maybe get by in a restaurant for about 20 minutes.
So, do I say, well, you know, when I was young, I spoke two languages, English and German, and I squandered my multilingual abilities.
It's like, no, because I don't like it.
You know, I have squandered my considerable youthful potential as a gay male escort.
Because, you know, when I was young, not an inconsiderable spatter of hotness clung to my meaty frame.
But, you know, I don't enjoy gay sex.
It's just the way I'm wired.
So I don't feel like I've really squandered the gay male prostitute capacity.
Plus, when you look at Vastra Flanagan, you see that it doesn't always have the best outcomes.
So, if you don't like math, I don't see how you've squandered Your abilities or your potential in math if you don't like to do it.
Yeah, that is a very good point.
And I think I agree with you on that.
You convinced me.
Good.
I have failed at not applying myself.
I have failed at applying myself at things I don't like to do.
It's an old line from a movie.
Just because you have a big dick doesn't mean you have to do porn.
So I just really wanted to point that out.
Now, if there's something that you love to do, And you chicken out of doing it because you're afraid of rejection.
And everything you love comes with vulnerability.
If you love something, it comes with vulnerability.
If you're really attracted to a woman, it really matters whether she says yes or no when you ask her out.
If you really want to bring philosophy to the world, then it matters whether you're successful or not.
And so whatever you love is this big giant sign that Over a sometimes cold world saying, press here for pain.
And so that challenge of doing something you love and this big giant invitation...
To be hurt by people for whatever it is that you love.
And most people, when they love something, if they're surrounded by not-so-nice people, which most people are in this world, if you love something, that becomes something that people can use to mock or denigrate or put you down or something like that.
And it happens with people who love this show.
And this show is the kind of thing where there's not a lot of middle ground.
You're going to love it, you're going to hate it.
Which is more a test of you than it is of me.
So do you think...
Yes.
Hang on.
So, just a second.
Let me finish my point.
So, people who love this show, people will mock them.
I loved certain bands and certain acts and certain albums when I was younger, and people used my enthusiasm for it to mock me.
To, oh, you know, he's just obsessed by this.
It just puts you down, right?
And so, when you really want to do something, it exposes the kindness or cruelty of the people around you.
If you really, really want to do something, it exposes the kindness and the cruelty of the people around you if and when you try to do it.
And so a lot of people shy away from pursuing their passions because they're afraid of everyone around them.
And those people who succeed in pursuing their passions either get supportive people around them or learn somehow to, I don't know how, but learn somehow to ignore the negativity of those around them.
And every time you aim at something great, you are open to accusations of arrogance and vanity.
I make no bones about it.
I want to be the best philosopher in the world.
I'd love to be the best philosopher who ever lived.
That's my goal.
And people get upset.
Arrogant if I had a dime, right?
For every time people called me arrogant.
Okay, so I have high ambitions.
Do you think Taylor Swift said, I'm aiming for the middle?
Or Freddie Mercury said, I'm going to hit some baritone notes.
Forget all that falsetto stuff.
Sounds kind of gay.
It sounds like John Anderson on helium.
Right?
So, I mean, you aim for greatness if you really want to achieve something.
And that exposes people around you.
Who will either be supportive or undermine you.
And the worst way that people undermine you is by ignoring what it is that you're doing.
This show and my marriage was the great test of the people around me when I was younger.
I mean, we just passed the 10 year anniversary of my first podcast in October.
And way back in the day, I recognized that I finally was going to have the opportunity to do something great with my life.
Not just good.
I did some good things before, but something truly great.
And I was very enthusiastic about the possibilities of doing something like this.
And the degree to which people around me ignored it or undermined it or put it down or whatever, right?
Just kind of with the wet blankets on the volcanic fires of my enthusiasm was the degree to which I had a choice.
I can either stay small and I can pursue the approval of the tiny little people around me.
Or I can aim big, you know, and if people hang on to the rocket, then they can.
If they fall off, well, the rocket's got to go.
So from that standpoint, if you have had something that...
You passionately want to do and you chickened out because you're afraid of the disapproval of people around you or the rejection of other people, you know, like my youthful and up until middle-aged and still even now considerable enthusiasm for objectivism and Ayn Rand, people just made fun of it.
It's a Randroid, you know, like they never ever debated the actual content.
Of the ideas.
It was all just this dismal mockery of things with no, just bring it down, bring it down, claw it down, claw it down.
So when I stride into the world, confident and assertive, and with my ambitions aimed straight, hopefully not Icarus light at the heart of the sun, set the controls for the heart of the sun.
That's an old Pink Floyd song, which I remember, description of my podcast career.
But If you aim high and then people start to undermine and attack and mock and all that kind of stuff because everybody deep down wants to be great, but they're terrified of being mocked for any ambition, then that is a different matter.
But if it's something you didn't want to do and you failed at it, well, you kind of succeeded.
It's like failing at what you don't want to do is actually succeeding.
Okay.
That's a good point.
Yeah, I absolutely agree with all that.
And I'm taking steps to actually...
Pursue my real passions and not just do what other people want me to do.
And yeah, I totally agree with what you all said there.
And I just wanted to ask another question, which is sort of connected to this, which is, what do you think is the relationship between stressful environments and talent and hard work?
So, like, when you look at, let's see, the writers from Russia, like, in the 17th century to later centuries, you see, like, very stark differences in the writing,
and you see a lot more concepts, illiterate concepts that are being introduced to the field, and I think that's caused by the The Soviet takeover and the stressful environments that's caused by that.
And similarly, I think people in general cannot, in general, I'm not saying everyone, but in general, they have to have some sort of stress in order for them to excel or meet their potential.
Yeah, I think you said 17th century Russian writers.
Did you mean 19th century?
I think that was the great flowering of Russian writers.
Yeah, yeah.
Comparing 17th century to 18th and 19th century writers, there's a difference.
It's not stress, I think, that breeds great art.
Throughout humanity's life, stress has been constant and in general.
It's the hope of ending stress.
I think that breeds the greatest art.
Otherwise, the greatest art would come out of, I don't know, people facing terminal illnesses or people in concentration camps or people in prison.
Those people are undergoing considerable and enormous stress.
People in war zones and so on.
But generally, we don't see great art coming out of that.
In the 19th century in particular, there was a potential for Russia to leave behind its barbarous medieval past and join the 20th century.
I guess the 19th century at that time, but joined the modern world, and that produced a great outflowering of art.
The same thing could be said for Weimar Germany in the 1920s.
And so I think when there's hope, art is like a wheel that spins, and it only really rotates fast when it has rubber on the road, when you can do something about it.
I mean, nothing feeds art Like, it's effect.
And so you need an environment where you can actually have an effect on the world, and that's what feeds your drive and your desire to communicate with the world, is that people are listening and doing something and changing about their lives.
So I wouldn't say it's stress necessarily.
I think it's hope when you can...
When you can communicate to a world that's willing to listen, where there's enough freedom of speech that you can speak your mind, then I think artists feel very enthusiastic.
Now, during a time of transition, there is a lot of stress in society.
And it's called Growth Panic by Lloyd DeMoss and some of the other psychohistorians.
And when it's basically the...
The change that can occur intergenerationally between parenting standards, for instance, like a more modern and gentle parenting standards versus older and harsher pedagogical methods, that is stressful because you have a transitional generation, right?
So if you were raised in a spanking or verbally abusive, physically abusive environment, and then you decide not to do that to your kids, when your kids grow up peacefully, you're the one who's the transitional generation.
Your parents are putting unconscious pressure on you to hit your children.
You are resisting that, which is painful for your own history, and your children hopefully are growing up shielded from that kind of aggression by you, but you are the transitional person.
That is stressful, because it's less stressful if you simply don't have anything to do with abusive parents.
That's a topic for another time, but that is a challenge.
But of course, you're only able to do that Because you hope or you believe that your children will do better off and that the world is heading in that direction and you're part of that movement towards more peaceful parenting.
You know, you wouldn't necessarily, if you knew for sure that the world was heading into a war, a brutal war in 10 years, then peaceful parenting might not be your optimal strategy for survival or whatever.
I don't know, maybe it would be.
But I think that the feeling is that there's hope in the future.
You can change something, you can achieve something, and people are willing to listen.
To what it is that you have to say.
I think that comes out of hope and some elements of artistic or philosophical freedom to speak or to write or to communicate as you see fit.
I think that opportunity is what drives things.
I mean, Dostoevsky was a great writer when he started out and then he got involved in this revolutionary gang and he was thrown in prison.
He spent eight months in solitary confinement in a prison so inhumane That even the guards wore felt shoes when walking up and down the hallways because you were supposed to be in darkness and in silence to repent of what you had done.
And then he was tried, a kangaroo trial as you can imagine.
He was in a kangaroo court.
He was dragged out into a courtyard.
He was hauled up in front of a firing squad and a few seconds before his head was going to get blown off.
His sentence was commuted to ten years in Siberia where he went and then later wrote notes from the House of the Dead or memoirs from the House of the Dead, which is a great and terrifying book on the gulag system in the 19th century, which was far less brutal, of course, than the gulag system of the 20th century.
And so, yeah, the man went through a lot of stress.
He actually became, I would argue, addicted to stress because then he became a gambling addict and I don't think he could function without cortisol.
And other stress hormones.
I've actually read his new bride wrote a whole bunch of memoirs and kept a diary about their time stuck in the gambling casinos and it was just a brutal and exhausting environment.
So he was definitely going through some stress but you know the question is where were the Dostoevskys in the 20th century?
Well they were killed.
Or they shut up, because it was even more stressful for them than it was for Dostoevsky, and that reduced the power of their art.
Where were the great Chinese writers during Mao's Cultural Revolution?
Well, they were too scared.
I mean, it takes a certain amount of intelligence to be a great artist, and that means you know which way the wind is blowing to some degree.
So I think that stress can be helpful.
And I think stress is one of these Aristotelian means, like too little is not great for you.
You get bored and too much just sort of overwhelms your system.
And I do think that there's a time in the box or stuff where you have to watch out your addiction to cortisol.
If you're, you know, like that old line from Finding Nemo, you got serious thrill issues, dude.
So does that help at all?
Yeah, that kind of helps.
But I just wanted to go back to what you just said about you can't have too much stress or the Aristotelian meaning of stress.
But when you have an environment where there's too little stress, like when...
So I'm thinking in a free market society where there are no governments at all.
And so you have this wonderful environment for cultivating new businesses.
And so there's less stress involved in that process compared to now.
And because there's less stress or less hope that you need to start a business or something, do you think that in a free society it'll be a little bit more difficult than in our current situation?
Yeah, I don't know.
What I would say is that our tendency to become lazy and are selected in times of abundance is one of the main reasons why we can't have a state, right?
Because the general cycle is that people fought and bled and died by the millions to achieve some kind of freedom, particularly economic freedom.
But also, if you look at John Milton's Areopagitica, this argument for free speech, which apparently has been completely forgotten, they just did a A guerrilla filmmaker did a sort of pseudo-study on Yale where he went around the campus and he asked a bunch of students whether they'd sign a petition to repeal the First Amendment, freedom of speech.
And the majority of them said, sounds great.
Thank you for coming out here.
So they were basically signing a petition that took away their right to sign a petition.
So good job, public schools.
Good job, ladies.
You're in charge of childhood and now nobody wants any free speech.
It can't be because women don't say anything that radical in general.
Can't be anything to do with that, can it?
So people, you know, fight and bleed and die and experience social ostracism and attack and get thrown in prison to achieve some kind of freedom.
That freedom produces a massive amount of wealth and then governments rush in and scoop up that wealth and redistribute it for votes, making people lazy and dependent on the system.
That destroys the genetic basis, the hormonal basis, as I think Jim Penman would say, for high achievement.
And there are some significant arguments now that we're just, in general, as a species, getting dumber.
And sure, the mind is a muscle.
And you put someone in the Democrat-fed and Republican-fed amniotic sack of the welfare state, and their brains turn to fucking jellyfish.
The mind is that people say, oh, you know, why are the Native Americans doing so badly?
It's because they're coddled.
Because the whole point, the brain is a problem-solving machine.
And like every muscle in your body, it needs resistance in order to strengthen.
And so people fight for freedoms.
Freedoms produce abundance.
The government scoops up that abundance and hands it out to everyone and then everyone gets lazy and dependent on the government and the whole system crashes and rinse and repeat.
Now in a free society, if you're stress averse, okay, well, there's things that you can do.
If you want to embrace stress, there's still going to be challenges in a free society.
I mean, there's, you know, there's still going to be, you know, you may want to write some fantastic new song.
You may want to invent some wonderful new machine and there's going to be resistance of the people who already have You know, their existing investment in something like if they've invested in driverless cars and you come up with teleportation, then they're going to have some problems with you, right?
And there's going to be hostility.
I mean, how long is it going to take until the world practices peaceful parenting?
Okay, we have a job to do for the next X generations and X is not one.
So, the problem is that when there's a state, excess breeds enslavement, serfdom, and dependence, right?
And if you don't have a state, then there will still be challenges and there will be charity, but you will at least have the option.
I mean, everybody wants this nirvana where you get everything you want and the robots deliver mommy, I mean, all the goods that you want and so on.
That is usually not a very beneficial state for human beings.
Now, you had a question sort of about...
Let me give you a brief sort of thing on that.
The data seems to be shifting quite a bit.
So Malcolm Gladwell made a very good case, I think, relative to the Beatles and Mozart and other people about 10,000 hours.
Now, recently, someone did a meta-analysis of 88 studies on deliberate practice.
And now it turns out practice accounts for just a 12% difference in performance in various domains.
And it very much depends on the domain.
You could make a case, so in games, practice made for a 26% difference.
In music, it was a 21% difference.
In sports, an 18% difference.
In education, a 4% difference.
In professions, more or less practice accounted for a 1% difference in outcomes.
And that is really a challenge to sort of consider.
So people have made a good case.
And Malcolm Gladwell is a fine writer and a good researcher who made a good case for it.
But the data is, at least the new data, seems to be challenging that.
So, again, much though I like theses as everyone else does, the important thing is to change, right, depending on what new information provides it.
So, Franz Johansson's book called The Click.
Moment, when youthful boys find porn.
In it, he argues that deliberate practice is only a predictor of success in fields that have super stable structures.
In tennis, chess, and classical music, the rules never change, so you can study to become the best.
But in less stable fields like entrepreneurship and rock and roll, rules can go out the window.
And lower IQ people, like, you have to practice consciously in order to get better at something.
And I remember this lesson from when I was young.
I played pickup soccer games once or twice, sometimes three times a week with friends when I was a kid.
And I did this for many years.
We never practiced.
We never did any drills.
We just basically ran and kicked the ball around and stuff.
And we ended up playing a rival group or whatever who had done this kind of stuff.
And they kicked their ass.
Because we were basically just out there running around kicking a ball going, I'm open.
Pass to me.
And, you know, but these other people who'd actually consciously tried to improve their skills, they kicked their butts.
And it wasn't even close.
And we'd all been playing around the same amount of time.
And so that is important.
So you have to practice consciously.
In other words, you have to attack your weaknesses.
You have to have a coach.
You have to do the stuff that you don't want to do and all of that.
Now, low IQ people, they don't practice as well because they tend to, low IQ people, People have a problem with deferring gratification.
In fact, I would argue to some degree that high intelligence is simply a byproduct of what is necessary to defer gratification.
The deferral of gratification being the basis of civilization and case selection and so on.
So, low IQ people don't correct their mistakes because they don't want to defer the gratification of getting something done.
We just wanted to go...
And there's nothing wrong with what we did as a soccer team.
Because what we wanted to do was go out and run around and have fun and all that.
And so, that was exactly...
I didn't want to become a professional soccer player or anything like that.
But...
So...
Deliberate practice is important.
It's just, according to the latest research, it's less important than has been argued.
The study's lead author, Brooke McNamara, said in a statement, quote, for scientists, the important question now is, what else matters?
And again, something to do with pleasure and all that.
So, as far as talent goes, the way I was sort of thinking about it before the show, I'll give you this brief analogy and see if it makes any sense.
To be a great musician, you obviously have a certain amount of musical ability, you have to have very good pitch, if not perfect pitch, you've got to get physical dexterity, big long Brian May spider hands don't hurt.
But when you become a musician, you have a choice.
I'm just thinking of rock and roll musician, right?
So there was a, the members of Queen were in a band called, I think, Smile or something like that before.
Now, Freddie Mercury just kind of hung around, you know, best singer in the world.
He's lugging your amp around.
And he was listening to them, and they were doing cover songs.
They did some original songs, but a lot of cover songs.
And he's like, you've got to write your own material.
They'll never make it in the business of music without original material.
And he had a point.
He really convinced them.
And they came up with Queen 1, not a great album.
Queen 2, which is a challenging but fantastic album for And then there's a sheer heart attack.
And then Night of the Opera Day at the races.
I don't know if that's all in order, but some fantastic stuff.
And when you're into music, if you want to be a cover band, then you'll, if you're good musicians and you're a cover band, then you'll do okay, right?
You'll get booked at bars.
You'll play people's weddings.
You'll make a kind of steady-ish income and you'll do okay.
You'll do okay.
You won't starve.
You're probably not going to be mega rich if you're a cover band, right?
Now, if you write your own material, one of two things is going to happen.
You're either going to make a fortune or you're going to make negative money.
Because if you're a bar band, you can go get paid and tour and all that kind of stuff.
If you write your own songs, either people are going to love them or they're not going to care.
In which, if they don't care, you're not making the money touring bars because you're not playing cover music and all that.
You're writing your own stuff.
And that means risking rejection.
See, if you become a bar band, a wedding band, you're not really going to risk that much rejection.
But if you write your own music, you're putting your heart out there.
And you're risking a lot of rejection.
And that is a challenge.
Now, I think that there's a certain amount of willed courage that it takes to simply say, I'm gonna put my own thoughts out there.
I'm gonna put my own ideas out there.
I'm gonna put my own music out there.
And let it sink or swim on its own merits.
You have to be tough enough to risk rejection in order to achieve anything great in this world.
Now, the talent...
Okay, you can play music and you can sit down, you understand music and so on.
But that willed choice to say, I'm gonna write my own music...
And I'm going to risk being rejected and I'm going to risk spectacular failure.
If you write your own music, you either write your...
You basically can put whatever you want in zeros in your bank account with a one in front of it or you're going to make nothing.
And from that standpoint, there's a choice there.
There's a choice, which is I'm going to take the safe route or I'm going to take the win big or win lose route.
And again...
It's not a better or worse choice.
But I think people need to be aware of these choices.
Like, listen, I was thinking about this in terms of my own career as a media guy.
And if I had played it safe, things would be very different.
In some ways they'd be better, and in some ways they'd be worse.
If I had played it safe, like if I had been standard libertarian guy, or standard objectivist guy, Putting new analogies on old thoughts and becoming very well learned in libertarian thought or objectivist thought.
And if I had stayed within, if I'd colored within the libertarian lines, let's say, then things would be different.
For me, better or worse, I know which I've preferred and I've preferred what it is that I've done.
But libertarians don't really talk about parenting.
Libertarians certainly don't talk that much about art.
They don't talk much about dreams.
They don't talk much about self-knowledge.
They don't talk much about spanking.
They don't talk about relationships, really.
And so I believed, and the data led me that way, that this was...
What needed to be done.
And there's not a lot of libertarians who suggest disengaging from academics and politics to change the world, because that's the standard idea.
Libertarianism is, let's go out and teach people about the free market, and then they'll prefer the free market.
To which I say, well, there are a lot of free market academics who don't want to go out into the wild world of podcasting or speech giving or book writing in the free market.
They want to stay in the cozy, amniotic sack of...
So even if we gave everyone a PhD in economics, given the people who have PhDs in economics who don't want to have anything to do with the free market and want to stay in academia, where they can't be fired every couple of years, they get sabbaticals and they get summers off, well, they want to stay doing that.
So it doesn't matter how much education you give people about the free market.
If the people with the most education about the free market don't want to have anything to do with the free market, more education isn't going to help.
If I had gone the standard atheist route, Then I could have done all of that stuff, right?
And written about and talked about all of that kind of stuff.
But atheists don't like talking about the free market very much because the atheism in the West comes out of the communist slash socialist tradition, so they tend to all be a bunch of statists.
And so if I had been standard, even a minarchist, right?
Minarchist is infinitely easier to flog in the marketplace of ideas than straight on voluntarism or anarchism.
So if I had gone the route of being a cover band, then things would have been quite different.
But I chose to write my own material.
I chose to look at the data and think originally from the ground up as best I could.
And I'm very, very happy with that decision.
It's not always been the easiest decision, just as it's not always the easiest decision, to write your own material.
You have to work a lot harder to write your own material than you do how to, you know, be a cover band, right?
Be a cover band, hey, we've learned Mustang Sally, we've got a little bit of Unchained Melody, we've got Rock Around the Clock, we've got Give Me Some Love, and we've got the, you know, and you learn all that stuff and then you just do that.
For the next 30 years.
And you don't have to sit there saying, okay, I sit down.
I've got to spend months writing material.
I've got to get into the studio.
I don't need to get into the studio if you are a cover band.
And then you've got to find a way to distribute your music.
And you've got to try and get it on the radio.
You need managers.
You need agents.
I don't know what goes on with this kind of stuff.
But it's a lot more time consuming.
And For me to work on the original ideas that I've had, which people want to get the books at freedomainradio.com slash free, that's taken a lot more work than simply doing the cover band of libertarianism, atheism, minarchism, objectivism, and so on.
And people can do what they want.
This is not an argument for one or the other.
But although I do believe that original thought is far more satisfying, although it can be challenging for people and for the original thinker at times, So as far as talent and work goes, well, it's a lot easier to be a cover band.
But you're not adding anything to the musical store of mankind by doing, you know, a great version of Down by the River.
Or Take Me to the River.
And so what you want is...
To add if you have the capacity, right?
Because some people, they don't want to work that hard.
They just want to be a cover band.
They want to learn these nine chords and that's what they do.
So they can go on autopilot.
And you know, you've got eight kids or you've got other things.
That's fine, you know, go for it, right?
You can work in a cubicle or you can start your own company.
So as far as talent versus hard work goes, I think that I don't know the degree to which other people are capable of original thought.
I genuinely don't know that.
I thought I did.
And then biology came along.
Yeah, I don't know the degree to which other people are capable of original thought.
I certainly would make the case that it is the best thing to pursue for the world.
And it's the best thing to pursue for the future.
And I find that playing it safe...
It's like being in an old McDonald's song, you know?
I've decided to play it safe.
So, playing it safe, you kind of want to, you know, you want to play it safe enough that you don't have a heart attack, but you don't want to play it so safe that you die of boredom.
I think it's that sort of middle ground.
And...
So I'm very happy that I was not a cover artist, because for many years I was a cover band for libertarianism, minarchism, and objectivism.
And that was not where I was destined to be.
At least that's not where I chose to be.
I chose to continue to push on to think as originally as I could to make a compelling case for The non-aggression principle consistently through the state, through the family, through relationships, through everything that I could get my hands on.
And to make an original case for morality called universally preferable behavior.
And that is fantastic.
That has been gloriously satisfying.
And that is, I think, why the show has become so successful.
Because if you really want to be successful, you have to be original.
You have to be original.
Nobody can say, pay me a million dollars to be your wedding singer.
Right?
I mean, I guess you can get the Eagles to play.
Don Henley, Sting, these people will play your parties if you're some Saudi prince, perhaps.
Because the one thing they're not making more of is you.
And if you really want to be successful, you have to be original.
Because taking a picture of the Mona Lisa is a lot easier than painting it from scratch.
And so for me, the uniqueness of who I am and the uniqueness of who you are, Taiwan, is where the real value is going to be.
This is why people who are themselves and no one else make so much money if they're in demand, right?
There's no Brad Pitt...
Downgrade.
Jeremy Renner.
I don't know.
But there's no...
If you want Brad Pitt, you've got to pay for Brad Pitt.
That's why you've got to pay a guy $10 million to be in your movie.
If you want Jason Bourne, you've got to go to Matt Damon.
You've got to step over the shadowy, humping sounds of his best friend in the bushes with a maid, get to his house, and get him signed up.
And so if you want to succeed truly, you must bring that which is uniquely yours and uniquely you to the marketplace.
And that means you're either going to succeed or fail.
And I think that the world needs big successes in the realm of human excellence.
Yeah, I agree.
Harrison Ford was paid 56 times His Star Wars co-stars.
Partly because they had him flying after a plane accident.
He could make $34 million for reprising his role as Han Solo in Star Wars.
In fact, Obi-Wan Kenobi, the actor Alec Guinness, Alec Guinness had a long and incredibly illustrious career as an actor before he showed up as Tall Yoda.
And what was sad was, I guess sort of sad, you got to see him as Fagin in the old Oliver Twist.
It's terrifying.
Fantastic.
But it's wild that Alec Guinness made more money from his appearance in one Star Wars movie than the rest of his career combined.
Wow.
Combined.
And...
Yeah, Carrie Fisher was paid $1.5 million, and she had to spend $1.4 million of that on Botox injections that basically turned her into a giant puffer fish of Pink Floyd, the wall face inanimate.
She's got wonderful acting eyes, but her face is like frozen pizza.
But yeah, so he got...
British newcomers John Boyega and Daisy Ridley got $450k to play the movie.
No...
Share of the film's earnings.
Yeah, Ford got 50, 60 times that.
And he's why the film works.
He is a very...
And he, if I remember rightly, I think he basically got the job.
George Lucas made a film called American Graffiti originally.
And Harrison Ford was a wannabe actor who was a carpenter and he was working on George Lucas' house.
And George Lucas said, this is like the angriest guy I've ever seen.
He's just seething the whole time.
The whole time he's around, he's angry.
And he ended up offering him a chance to audition.
He was very briefly in American Graffiti.
And then, of course, he was Han Solo.
And actually, J.J. Abrams, I think, and Harrison Ford worked together way back in the day on a film called Regarding Henry.
It doesn't really matter.
It's not a bad film.
Actually, one of the first films I went to go and see on my own.
It doesn't really matter.
Anyway.
So...
Be who you are, uniquely who you are, and let people love and hate you for that.
And the people who love you will love you for the example you provide of the value of authenticity and integrity, and the people who hate you will hate you because you provide the value of authenticity and integrity, which they're too cowardly to do or have set themselves in opposition to.
So, as far as talent versus hard work goes, It's that old line from the song Englishman in New York.
Be yourself no matter what they say.
So, yeah, be yourself.
Pursue your passions.
And try not to flog yourself.
Life should be about richness and pleasure and love.
And do something you love.
Enjoy the richness of achievement.
Enjoy the richness of failure.
Enjoy the richness of failure.
You know, we wouldn't have light bulbs if Thomas Edison wasn't willing to fail hundreds of times to produce the right filaments and the right electricity current and so on, right?
Enjoy the richness of failure.
Enjoy the richness of success.
Enjoy the surprises of success.
Work for weeks on videos that do virtually nothing and I sit down and rip off 15 minutes of a rant that does three quarters of a million views.
I don't know.
We sort of given up.
Everybody would do Bohemian Rhapsody every time if they could, but they can't.
But I think the whipping yourself is bad.
You know, I sometimes think, I spend a lot of time on philosophy and I sometimes think, shouldn't I be out there learning how to like Be a great motorcycle rider or learn how to surf or, you know, whatever it is.
Like, shouldn't I be out there?
I have bad thoughts all the time.
Yeah, you know, I mean, my daughter is going through a bit of a fail army phase, so we watch some of the more gentle fail army videos.
That can be kind of funny.
But I'm like, shouldn't I be learning how to skateboard like that as if I were young?
Shouldn't I be learning how to flip on skis?
And shouldn't I be out there doing all these cool things that I see in GQ magazine, which basically humbles me with my lack of athletic prowess and significant absence of abs?
And, you know...
So this, you know, the life is more fun just over the horizon or somewhere else or where this picture is.
If I go into this picture, it'd be great if I buy this car and have this beer.
But no, enjoy the richness of your everyday and do what you're passionate about because you love it.
I mean, you know, it's the old saying, but it's true.
If you find a way to make money at what you love, you'll never have to work a day in your life.
And it's very rare that this show...
Feels like work.
Occasionally.
But for the most part, it's something to look forward to.
And, you know, like I used to have, I think, like a lot of people, especially because, you know, my life When I got married with my wife, it still is now.
It's just a wonderful joy.
So we'd have these great weekends.
And then Sunday night, it'd be like, I'm going to go back to work.
Right?
And we used to have that same thing on Sunday nights as well when it came to going back to school.
But now, you know, like today, it was like, I got a show tonight.
Great.
Can't wait.
It's going to be a lot of fun.
And so that is...
A big rambling mud bowl of who knows what, but I hope it makes some kind of sense to you.
Yeah, it made total sense to me.
Yeah, it was very helpful.
All right.
Well, thanks, man, and I hope you find your bliss and overtake it with fire.
All right.
Yeah, thanks for the conversation.
Thanks, man.
Yeah.
Bye.
Alright, well up next is Brian.
Brian wrote in and said, what are your thoughts on the work of John Rawls?
How do his central ideas compare to yours?
Which of his ideas do you agree with the most?
And which do you agree with the least?
Are his ideas on justice compatible in any way, shape, or form with the free society?
Overall, do you feel that John Rawls helped or hurt the field of philosophy?
And to what degree has this helped or hurt society as a result?
Yeah, we've talked about John Rawls a bunch of times on this show, so I'll keep this relatively brief and people can do a search through the podcast archives.
I'm no expert on John Rawls, but I did take a philosophy of law class where he figured rather prominently when I was an undergraduate student.
And very briefly, John Rawls made a proposition something like this.
He said, look, imagine that you are a soul floating in the ether above the world before you're born.
And you don't know what form your life is going to take.
You don't know if you're going to be born rich or poor or smart or dumb.
You don't know if you're going to be a genius or mentally handicapped, a man or a woman, a black or white.
You don't know any of these things.
But you know you're going to be born.
And imagine that you could construct a society from beyond that veil of ignorance.
What kind of society would you construct?
And he said, I bet you would construct something like this.
You would say...
I want a society that has enough freedoms that if I have high capacity, high intelligence, high ambition, that I can achieve that ambition.
I don't want some communist society where everyone makes the same, because what if I'm amazing at stuff?
Then I want to have the scope to pursue and achieve that ambition.
So I definitely want some free market stuff.
On the other hand, what if I'm born mentally...
Or what if I'm born with some sickly disease?
Or what if I'm born, I'm just not that smart?
Or what if I'm just not ambitious?
Or whatever it is, right?
Then I'm going to want some kind of social safety net.
Because, as his argument, what if it's pure free market and I'm born behind the eight ball or somehow disadvantaged, then I'm going to want a safety net to take care of me.
And so he said, isn't it interesting, when he was writing this stuff, isn't it interesting that we have a free market system that has a social safety net?
And that is actually exactly the kind of system that we would construct if we were able to think of the ideal system from beyond the veil of ignorance prior to birth, not knowing how or with what Skills and abilities we were going to get born with.
So that was one of his central arguments.
And it's not philosophy that's the problem.
There's an old approach to trying to convince people.
And I don't know what the Latin phrase exactly is, but it goes something like this.
Scare the shit out of people.
And that is not philosophy.
You know, philosophy is not this.
Boo!
It's not philosophy.
That's just frightening people.
And John Rawls was updating an old argument called Pascal's Wager.
And it goes back even further than that.
And Pascal's Wager was the argument that said, all right, you bloody atheist.
Let's say that you're right.
There's no God.
Okay.
So you live your life as an atheist.
Fine.
You don't have to get up early on Sundays.
You don't have to pay a tithe or whatever it is.
And then you die and you're food for worms and that's it.
You have no more life in you than there are announcers in the radio after you turn it off.
Done.
On the other hand, he said, if you're wrong and there is a God, then you're going to hell.
Booyah!
Down into the deep and dirty baby.
You are going down into hell itself.
And not the fun kind of Bill and Ted's album cover hell, but the really bad stuff.
And so hell is forever and hell is permanent torture and everything.
So it's not a good idea because what you gain is a small amount of convenience in the here and now, but you risk hell forever.
So the rational course of action is to get up, go to church, pay your tithe and so on, right?
That's called Pascal's Wager.
And I'm not saying that he necessarily was forwarding it.
It's just this is a way of...
But all it does is invite people to scare the shit out of you to get you to do what they want.
That's all.
Climate change.
So it is a...
It's a fallacious...
It's a non-argument.
It's a non-argument.
Here's another more secular version that you've probably heard.
And it goes something like this.
You see...
Let's say you have difficult and unbearable and abusive parents.
and you don't see them because you listen to feminists who say you shouldn't be in abusive relationships and let's say that somebody hears about this or you see this portrayed in a movie I can tell you what most people will say most people are as predictable as a fortune cookie you've already read and so what they'll say is well you see it may give you some relief now not to see your abusive dad but when he dies When he
dies, you are going to be so full of regret that you did not find a way to get close to him.
You're going to be so full of regret and that regret will haunt you and follow you for the rest of your day.
So go and make peace with him because otherwise, regret, regret!
Right?
So in other words, you have to do something that you find objectionable, which is to stay in contact and make yourself vulnerable to somebody who's proven himself to be relentlessly abusive.
Because otherwise, this magical evil voodoo curse called regret will swarm into your brain and make its home there like a hive of conscious stinging wasps.
And it's only wasps who are generally susceptible to this, as in white Anglo-Saxon Protestants.
But anyway, that is the more secular version.
And it's only really applied in general to the more independent people in society.
You don't really see that, you know, if a woman says, my husband's abusive, everyone says leave, they don't say, well, you've got to find a way to make peace with him and to love him again and have him in your life and have him over every week for tea because otherwise you're going to be full of regret.
Regret!
You're going to curse with regret.
So that's a form of Pascal's a wager.
It's not an argument.
It's simply do what I say or dire consequences.
That's not really philosophy.
That's blackmail.
I mean, you try that outside John Rawls' theory of justice or, say, the Catholic teachings of hell or this secular cursing you with regret if you don't conform to the wishes of abusive people.
You try that outside that context and you're like a mafia shakedown artist, you know?
It's a nice restaurant you got here.
It'd be a real shame if something happened to it.
You better pay us 500 bucks a month just so nothing bad does.
I'm not saying it will.
I'm just saying something bad might happen to it unless we see the 500 a month, right?
And so that's, you know, we can't prove that something bad is going to happen to it, but it might.
So you feel uneasy, you pay the money to get rid of the unease, right?
Because you're case selected.
So that's right.
Duke Nukem needs his money too.
So that's not philosophy.
It's not an argument from first principles.
Now, the difference with John Rawls is he appeals not just to your fear, but to your greed as well, which is really quite effective, right?
And so John Rawls says, okay, well, you don't want to starve to death if you're born stupid and mentally handicapped, but at the same time, if you're really smart, you don't want to be stuck making the same amount of money as the guy who cleans out your toilet, and so you want some free market, you want some Welfare state and that is the very best of halal, right?
So that's his, it's not an argument.
It's an appeal to fear and it's an appeal to greed.
You don't want to starve, but you want to make a lot of money too, right?
So that's, it's not philosophy.
It's not philosophy.
And there's no principles.
Where's the moral principle?
It's an appeal to fear and it's an appeal to greed.
Where's the moral principle?
There's no moral principle there.
There's no universalization.
There's nothing to do with the categorical imperative or UPB or whatever it is that you'd want to characterize it as.
And so, it's not philosophy.
And it has nothing.
It's manipulation.
It's all it is.
It's, you know, give money to the government or you'll drown.
Right?
Or...
We'll take flamethrowers to the polar bear's last remaining icicle.
And so this, give us money or doom!
This is standard, what is called philosophy.
And this guy is saying, yeah, you know, give government money, otherwise you'll starve.
But don't give the government all your power, because otherwise you won't be able to make a lot of money.
Okay, appeal to fear, appeal to greed.
Why does that have to do with philosophy?
It doesn't.
And it's not an accident.
Like, one of the big insights I had over the last year was just the realization that there's no such thing as the history of philosophy.
There's no such thing as a famous philosopher at all throughout the vast majority of human history.
I would really argue up until the internet, philosophy's only really had a chance for the last 10 years or so.
And the reason being that Why is a philosopher famous?
A philosopher is famous because making him famous serves the needs of the powers that be.
It serves the needs of the rulers.
So they elevate him to a position of authority to intimidate other people into bowing to that which the rulers have already decreed.
So the fact that John Rawls became famous because he was advocating a system That was already in place that people were in charge of.
Well, whoop-de-doo.
Whoop-de-doo.
Shockingly, a very intelligent and eloquent man who praises the king is praised by the king.
What a miracle!
Strangely enough, a person who praises diversity is also praised by Barack Obama and all the social justice warrior jellyfish goop heads on the planet.
Wow!
I can't believe it.
It's amazing to me.
I don't think Charles Murray is getting his invitation to the NAACP anytime soon, or even Turkheimer for that matter.
So, the fact that John Rawls licks the boots of the masters and says, oh, the system that you're in charge of is the very best system, don't you know?
Yes, you are a great philosopher.
We're going to elevate you and give you pictures of you in front of a lot of books, see?
Because the fact that you're praising the system we're in charge of means that we really want to praise you.
You know, Dante, who reaffirmed the medieval worldview, very famous poet!
On the nature of things not quite so well known.
So what is the history of philosophy?
The history of philosophy, up until very recently, is generally the history of eloquent, useful sycophants.
And the philosophers plucked, sorry, the philosophers were plucked out of relative obscurity by the powers that be and the media lackeys who serve them and who they serve.
And they were elevated because of the eloquence of their arguments?
No.
Because they were soft, intimidating clubs through which to beat the original thought out of everyone else.
Well, John Rawls is very, he's famous, and he's a professor, and he looks like, I mean, you see a picture of the guy, he just looks like a quintessential professor.
You know, he's a PhD, he teaches at this Ivy League school, and he got a theory of justice.
It's really compelling.
So I guess that's true then, right?
Is he teaching people how to think?
No.
Appeals to fear and appeals to greed are not teaching people how to think.
It's simply wiring into their amygdala and their fight or flight mechanism and hunger for not dying and hunger for food, which is another way of saying the same thing.
Why is he famous?
Why is he famous?
Because he was useful to those in power.
And the moment that you are useful to those in power, you are not a philosopher anymore.
That's the job description.
It's one thing a philosopher has to be, and that is not useful to those in power.
Ideally, you should be opposed to those in power philosophically.
But the major gig?
You know, they say the Hippocratic Oath for medicine, do no harm.
It's not really a great oath.
Don't kill people.
Hey, I'm a doctor.
I haven't killed anyone today.
But the Hippocratic Oath for philosophers is serve no power.
Serve no rulers.
Because the moment you're serving rulers, you are a tool of oppression.
And you will be well paid and well pampered for that.
You serve reason, you serve evidence, but everything that smacks of power is not yours to serve.
As a philosopher it is yours to oppose because power is the opposite of reason and evidence.
Power is appealing to people's fear and greed to control them rather than giving them tools to think for themselves.
So the primary gig of the philosopher is serve no masters and encourage other people to serve no masters.
That's the gig.
And John Rawls failed that gig in my opinion.
And more than just an opinion, I think I made a reasonable case for it.
So if he had an argument from first principles, I would respect that.
But he didn't.
At least in...
Again, I'm no expert on John Rawls.
All I know is this particular theory which has had a great influence on very many people.
It has nothing to do with anything that I'm doing.
And I would argue it has nothing to do with philosophy because it's not an argument from first principles with reason and evidence.
It is an appear to fear and greed.
It is...
He was just a high priest of the modern theocracy called statism.
He was just a high priest of the modern bloodstained church of the state.
And the fact that he served the state, the fact that he was well paid by the state.
Now all who were paid by the state, they're not only suspects, you can dismiss them.
You can dismiss them.
I know that sounds arrogant to know some guy who served by the state says that two and two make four.
But we're not talking about somebody who's saying that two and two make four.
We're talking about a guy who took state protection for his career, who never acknowledged that he was paid by money forcibly extracted from taxpayers, who never discussed the fact that he couldn't be fired.
And again, I don't know what tenure was like back in the day, but I think it's been pretty strong for quite a long time.
So the fact that he's talking about justice in the abstract when the money that he received for his pay was torn out of the taxpayers' hands at gunpoint, if he didn't see that, I have no interest in his moral philosophy.
If he did see that, I have no interest in his moral philosophy.
Does that help at all?
Yeah, that's quite a lot to start with.
I should qualify my question.
I'm not a supporter of John Rawls.
I pretty much align myself with you, but I heard a...
Not aligned with you, but my views and beliefs tend to fall along the same lines as yours.
But I heard a podcast on him and Robert Nozick by somebody named John Schmitz, David Schmitz, on EconTalk a couple years ago.
And never heard of either...
Either philosopher, but I did find it to be very interesting, sort of the back and forth that they had in the 70s.
And, you know, the things I was hearing about Rawls were things that I could sort of see being telegraphed through the sort of liberal establishment, the modern left, things like that, which I found interesting given that there's not a lot of...
Things that I see said directly by Raw's that I find to be very compelling.
And yet we have the academy sort of telegraphing his views to a whole generation of students and then they're going out into the world and voting and you know.
Yeah, and it's great because young people lap it up because then they don't have to change the system.
They have to challenge the system.
I've used this analogy before, so I'll keep it brief.
But if you want to understand these kinds of theories, all you have to do is use the cash slash principle.
And what that means is whenever you hear about the redistribution of income, which is the cash, Then what you really need to substitute in order to test the justice of it is to have the redistribution of sexual favors.
It's a cash and slash principle.
So the Rawlsian perspective is this.
Okay, this is John Rawls translated into More visceral moral terms, but using exactly the same principles.
So, I am John Rawls.
I have come to put a proposition before you.
Let us say that you are floating in the ether before you were born, and you do not know, before you are born, exactly what size penis you're going to have.
You don't know how tall you're going to be.
You don't know what fine or bad hair you are going to have.
You don't know whether you're going to be spotty Or clear and smooth skinned.
You do not know whether you will have a tendency towards high body fat retention or whether you will have a flat and lickable six pack.
You do not know these things.
You do not know whether you shall be born rich or poor.
You do not know whether your face will have a pleasing symmetry or will be like a plasticine mask that has been dropped from a medium height.
You simply, you do not know.
You do not know whether you shall have an accent that is rather plummy, a little bit Victorian like mine.
You simply do not know whether you will have the kind of accent that makes people add 20 points to your IQ, or you don't know if you're going to have some kind of dumb accent where people are going to subtract a whole bunch of IQ points for you and stick it up your ass like you're an extra in the movie Deliverance.
You simply do not know these things.
You do not know how attractive you are going to be to the opposite sex.
Now, given that you do not know how much poontang you shall be able to consume during your life, how much pussy you will be able to crush, as the saying goes, I believe, given that you do not know these things, what kind of society do you want to have?
Well, my friend, I think the answer is quite clear.
If you have lots of money, great hair, a juicy six-pack, a viper-backed kind of upper-body torso, long, lean, luscious legs, and a penis that looks like four Bud Light cans in a row, then it seems to me quite likely that you are going to get more than your fair share of the fairest ex.
On the other hand, if you are Danny DeVito with a little baby Japanese pinky penis, rather rotund of build, George Costanza-like, and you are poor, and you are bald, and you can only grow an indifferent Johnny Depp-style pubescent girl fanny mustache, then it seems to me quite likely that you're...
Well, you're going to be shit out of luck, I think the phrase would be, and...
You're really not going to be getting any gash at all, I think the phrase is.
You will be really reduced to buying a new keyboard every six to eight weeks because it's simply too gummy to type on and you need to type.
Because, you know, anal goat porn isn't going to type itself, you know.
So, given that you do not know how attractive you're going to be to the opposite sex, I really must say that you're going to want a system of poontang distribution.
Now if you are rich and firm of ab and tall of hair and large girthiness of penis size, well clearly you're going to want to be able to crush as much pussy as you can possibly get a hold of.
So you'll obviously not want pussy to be completely redistributed as if you had no say in the matter.
On the other hand, if you are small and rotund and poor and not a huge fan of, say, bathing, then clearly you're going to want to have some of that fine lady meat shot in your general direction, whether it's for their will or not.
So...
You do not know in this future world whether the muff will come to you or whether you shall be chasing the muff.
I think that's really what I want to say.
Are you going to be in Fudd pursuit or is Fudd going to be pursuing you?
That's for my Scottish friends.
And so are you going to be an expert gardener in the lady garden or are you going to be somebody trying to find an oasis in a desert that's never going to arrive?
You don't know.
You don't know.
And so clearly you're going to want a system where the government forces women to have sex with you if they do not find you appealing.
On the other hand, you do want to have the freedom to pursue high-quality poontang wherever you may be able to find it, because likely is that you will be able to get a hold of it.
Also, if you can get the government to pay for STD treatments, and if you can get the government to pay for, say, pregnancy, abortions, and other kinds of messiness, so much the better.
So, that is the cash slash dash gash theory.
And I think it really is very compelling.
And I would say that I put the John Rawls in John as in somebody who frequents prostitutes.
But that really is my theory as to what should happen in the future.
Because you simply do not know whether the pussy will fall on you or whether you will fruitlessly chase the pussy across a wide plantation of endless rejection.
So...
Obviously some pussy forced upon you and other pussy that you can pursue at will will be very much the ideal of what should happen.
So I guess the last thing I would say is we do not know at what depth we shall have to swim to quaff of the bearded clam.
And so it is really incumbent upon the government to either let us, should the bearded clam be high in the seawater, to let the government have us go down and cough as much bearded clam as we can, given that we may only have a snorkel.
Of course, if your penis is the size of a snorkel and perhaps bent that way, you might be able to get even more.
If the bearded clam is simply too deep for us to go down and get, well, clearly the government must send divers down to bring it up to us.
And that is really the end of John Rawls and his theory of poontang redistribution.
Does that make things clearer?
Did we listen?
I think we lost it.
Yeah, fair enough.
I'm not saying it's unwarranted.
I believe I have a new bedroom voice to bring to my wife.
Alright, let's move on to the next call.
Alright, well up next is Nick, who had a dream, not about bearded clams, but he's going to read our dream.
Go ahead, Nick.
What the heck is the bearded clam reference?
Google.com.
Okay.
Hang on, hang on.
First of all, you have to, first of all, Mike's going to share with you his Google alerts.
Oh, no.
Mike's Google alert is porn.
I'm just kidding.
Today, there's one piece of new porn on the internet.
It's called the internet.
Okay, I just never heard that one before.
Maybe I'm sheltered.
Okay, so thank you for having me on.
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On to my question.
A few months ago, I had kind of a weird dream that disturbed me and it really stuck with me for a bit.
And I remember listening to a dream analysis you did for another caller a few times Some time ago and I thought that was very interesting so if you don't mind I'm gonna kind of read the dream that Yeah, just before you do, I just, you know, in deference or with respect to the new listeners, yes, we do talk about dreams on the show.
I think that they're fascinating.
I come from a more artistic background, acting, playwriting, poetry, novels, and so on.
And I think that dreams, I don't know if they're the royal road to the unconscious that Freud talked about, but I think that they're incredibly powerful.
Potential narratives for understanding your life.
So, I've got theories about dreams.
I've got a whole idea about why they occur.
You can check in the podcast feed.
So, yes, if you came here from the migrant crisis and you're wondering what the hell is going on, that's what's going on.
I wish Europe could wake up from its current nightmare, but that's what we're trying to do.
All right, so that's just a little bit of background.
Why don't you read the dream?
All right.
Basically, I was in what appeared to be a discount clothing retailer.
There's one in particular that I remember from my youth that this reminded me of.
I was at what appeared to be a customer service desk, and I was trying to cash a check from my girlfriend.
I know that doesn't make much sense, but that's what was going on.
The check was for either $5,999 or $15,999.
It changed when I looked at it.
So, a security guard from my work was standing behind the desk, and he went away, and I was trying to decide if I could write a check right away, or if I had to wait for the check from my girlfriend to be processed first.
My hand, and I was trying to figure out what...
I'm sorry, you just cut out for a second there, then I had a receipt in my hand.
Sorry, go ahead.
Okay, so the security guard, he went away and I was trying to decide if I could write a check right away or if I had to wait for the check from my girlfriend to be processed first.
Then I found a receipt in my hand and I was trying to figure out what to do with the receipt.
The security guard came back with some generic person who I saw as a friend from work and a woman with a broken foot.
He then said, what are you doing to us?
In kind of a faux angry voice, kind of a joking angry voice, and I looked up confused at him and then realized that he wanted me to get out of the way so that the lady with the broken foot could cut in front of me.
I yielded but felt embarrassed and angry and deeply wronged.
I put the receipt in a drawer that was facing outward on the counter and then Followed the guard around with my air quote friend as he told us how important it is to accommodate women and those in need.
Still angry, I said, just because you break your ankle at your foot doesn't mean you get to break all the rules.
And then I began to think about the affirmative action program at work and how when I sprained my ankle it didn't mean I got to cut in line.
I went back to the counter...
I'm sorry, you're white, right?
Yes, that is correct.
Okay, go ahead.
I then began to think of...
I went back to the counter, the lady was gone, and I couldn't find the receipt.
I was concerned, and then my event went to the store window and declared, look, aliens, take pictures.
I ran over to the window.
The sky was gray and the landscape looked a lot like where I grew up in Ohio.
And I saw a UFO in the sky.
The security guard proclaimed, I took the original alien pictures.
My friend then took out a big camera and began to take pictures for himself.
Then a blinding white flash came from the UFO. I looked closer and the UFO appeared to be a purple, highly pixelated, kind of like in an old arcade game, flying saucer with a giant light bulb underneath.
I was terrified because I didn't want to be abducted.
So the UFO then admitted a big red flash, and then I saw it fly down behind the store.
My friend, who at this time had kind of transformed into an old friend from high school, and I rushed out back to find the ship.
At this point, I began to hear electric guitar music.
When we stepped outside, the ship had landed and there were two aliens outside.
One was out front and the other came into view from behind the saucer driving a small vehicle with caterpillar treads.
They both looked like bad computer graphics models and they both repeatedly said, welcome humans, don't be afraid.
My friend then immediately began to attack the first alien and then I ran up to the second alien and Roundhouse kicked it in the head.
I looked back at the UFO and I saw stairs going into the cockpit.
I ran up the stairs and saw a middle-aged man in a rubber suit with fake looking antennae.
He declared, I am the king of this dimension.
I looked outside and saw that my friend was still grappling with the alien but was winning.
Then I pushed the man in the rubber suit aside and took the controls.
At that point, I woke up kind of sweaty and terrified.
Weird dream.
It's a great dream.
I think I have some idea, and I don't know if we'll be able to do the whole dream because it's very big.
Yeah, I know.
Tell me a little bit about Affirmative Action at Work.
Well, okay.
I'm a computer engineer.
I've I don't live in Ohio anymore.
I live in a much more liberal part of the country.
I work for a tech company.
I'm sure you've heard of this company.
I don't want to say what it is.
Basically, there's a real big push to Try to be, well, they would say more inclusive.
To hire non-whites, in particular blacks and Hispanics, right?
Yeah, and women as well.
We don't need to be politically correct on this show.
Life is too short.
We're aging rapidly while we're dancing around the topic.
So they don't have an affirmative action program to hire Orientals or Asians, because I'm sure that as a tech company there are lots of those already.
But blacks and Hispanics in particular, women and so on, there's a big push to hire them.
people who are either white or Asian.
Is that a fair summation?
That's certainly my perception.
Okay.
I mean, that's the law.
Right.
Okay.
Right.
Okay.
To work with the government, usually you have to put this kind of stuff, you show it's in place, and you have to obsessively track the race and gender of everyone who's around, because apparently we want to live in a post-racial society, which means, hey, the new Hermione is black!
Did you know that?
Isn't that cool?
She's a person of color, isn't that fantastic?
Who cares?
I don't care.
She's just a competent actress.
Like, the guys in the new Star Wars movie, the young guy, the hero, he's black!
He's black!
He's black!
It's like, I don't care.
He's actually a fine actor.
He did a really good job, given that the character doesn't exist in any real dimension.
He actually did a fairly good job of being an action hero that's made of plastic and George Lucas-inspired dialogue, which is to say, plastic.
But...
Yeah, so we have to obsessively focus on race in order to live in a post-racial society.
It's just one of these paradoxes.
But, you know, sort of like diversity is a value, but you're not allowed to have any diverse thoughts about diversity because that's bad.
Can't question diversity because that's being diverse about diversity.
Okay, so is this having an effect on you?
And we'll just talk about your thoughts, right?
We don't have any proof of this kind of stuff.
But without a doubt...
Affirmative action is negative to the career prospects of Asians and whites, right?
That is certainly...
Yeah.
I mean, it has to be.
I mean, it wouldn't be a program otherwise.
It has to favor less competent people over more competent people at the expense of the more competent people, at the expense of the customers, at the expense of the company as a whole, the economy as a whole.
And it certainly can interfere with your career prospects, right?
Yeah.
I mean, now that you're mentioning it, I mean, there was kind of, like, last year I felt as though there was an instance in which I felt like I should have been in a certain leadership position,
but there was a There was a woman who was chosen to take that leadership position instead, and to add insult to injury, she didn't even want to be a leader.
So she was clear about this.
And so I ended up effectively playing that role, even though I didn't officially have the title.
Oh, and it makes, you know, when less competent people are hired and promoted, it makes everybody's life really difficult.
Really.
It's not just your missed opportunity and your missed raise.
It's having incompetent people around.
It's having to do extra work because they're really bad at it.
It's having extra work thrust upon you because their decisions are poor or, you know, they don't necessarily get sign-off on the specs before you start building, so you've got to build stuff later on the fly.
It is literally a living hell.
To have incompetent people around in a work environment.
To be fair, she's very competent as an individual contributor.
She just had no taste for taking any kind of leadership role.
This focus on being fair is exactly why we have this absurd focus on fairness is why we have this bullshit called affirmative action to begin with.
You know, what's fair is what you can achieve voluntarily.
That's what's fair.
Is it fair that the cheerleader go out with me?
Or should she go out with the football stud?
I don't know.
Can you get her to go out with you?
Then it's fair if she...
Like, what you can achieve voluntarily, that's called fair.
What you have to force people to do, that is not called fair.
Right?
So you say, to be fair, she was competent at something other than what she was promoted into.
Okay.
Take any incompetent person, ask them to clean your car, they'll probably do an okay job.
So, okay, he was a medical director and he was terrible, but to be fair, he was good at cleaning my car.
Who cares?
You didn't have a competent person put into a position because of affirmative action, whether that's for gender or for race.
Most likely.
We're just going to go with that as an assumption, because these things are impossible to prove.
Right.
It certainly is the case that Minorities and women do not feel it insulting that they should have affirmative action.
I would find it unbelievably insulting.
If my audience had to be forced to listen to what I was saying, I would never say another word into a microphone again as long as I lived.
What a hideous thing.
Imagine if my wife said, I hate you, I really, really want to leave you.
But I'm afraid that there are skeletal bears out there that will eat me.
It's like, please, God, don't do me any favors, right?
And so we don't know how competent or incompetent people are who are promoted in this way.
And I'm sure there's some very competent minorities in women who are promoted in this way.
The problem is you can't tell them.
You know, again, to take an extreme example, if a guy rapes 10 women, you could say, well, you know, three of those women might have had sex with him voluntarily.
We'll never know, now will we?
Because it wasn't a voluntary interaction.
So, we do know that minorities as a whole, there are some, but not as a whole, and certainly not the most vocal representatives of the minorities and the women, that they're not saying, no, this is a complete insult.
Minorities and women should stand and fall on their own merits.
Of course they should.
Because we're supposed to judge people by the content of the character, not by the color of their skin or the distance of the nipples from their spine.
Right?
So this should be a complete non-issue.
Now, in America, this is being challenged more and more, because it was supposed to be, as far as I understand it, a temporary government program, oxymoron alert.
But I would have no problem working for a woman.
I would have no problem working for any kind of minority or anything like that.
I have a problem for people who are willing and able to use state power to achieve authority over others.
That's a problem.
That's bad.
Well, you see, that's the thing that was so insane about this.
She was literally appointed.
She didn't particularly...
She basically said she didn't really want to be a leader and they said, too bad.
Yeah, we need our numbers.
We need to maintain our credibility with the federal government and get all of that good government money and the cost overruns payments that go with it.
So, sucks to be you.
We got to promote you because we need tits in the chair.
Yeah.
Yeah, and it's horrible.
It's, you know, it's dehumanizing.
It's dehumanizing to promote somebody based on the color of her skin or the shape of her genitals.
That is looking at people as skin color and sexual organs.
That's it.
We're promoting the dark skin, we're promoting the brown skin, and we're promoting the pussy.
Okay, well, aren't we supposed to look holistically at people?
No!
Skin color and vagina.
So promotion.
I mean, that is so dehumanizing and so horrendous.
And, you know, the problem with affirmative action as well, of course, is that Asians have to become invisible in the equation.
Yeah.
Because whenever anybody talks about racism, I had a call a couple of months ago about this, and I'll keep it brief, but...
People talk about racism in America.
Nobody ever says, well, those poor Asian Americans, man, they just, they can't seem to get ahead at Google.
They just, damn it, if only we could find, just give me one, one Asian programmer in the place.
Come on!
What's with all of these black females?
Just give me one Asian guy.
Do you work with any Asians, my friend?
Yeah, plenty.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
So here's the problem with affirmative action is that whites are supposed to be racist, but apparently we're very pro-Asian and we're very skeptical of the abilities of, say, blacks, right?
Weirdly enough, that actually falls along the IQ and three-dimensional manipulation of objects continuum in testing, right?
So Whites, like everyone else on the planet, are not racist or sexist.
We're IQist.
We're smartest.
Smart-cist?
I don't know what you'd call it, right?
But this is the problem, is that, you know, Asians, kind of quiet to begin with, and there's lots of studies that show that blacks are the most sociable, and Hispanics the next sociable, whites so-so, and then the Asians are very, like, not quite as gregarious and outspoken and extroverted and social and so on.
And so Asians, you know, kind of quiet to begin with, but when it comes to things like racism in white societies, they simply don't exist.
Right?
They simply do not exist.
Like Google has all of these complaints.
Oh, Google is racist because only 2% of the engineers are Blacks.
It's like, how many of them are Asians?
Oh, we can't tell you that.
The Asians, they don't exist.
They do, you know, like bowls of chop suey floating through the hallway and nobody's attached to them.
You know, it's just bizarre.
And this invisibility of Asians in the social discourse is one of the ways you know you're in the grip of propaganda rather than any facts at all.
You know, the fact that high tech companies seem to be haunted by Asian ghosts that never show up in social justice warrior calculations.
It's like literally they have these weird glasses on.
I don't know, maybe they're really visor-like glasses.
It's confirmation bias.
Yeah, well, no, they just, they simply can't see Asians.
They look at racism and they simply, Chinatown is like a neutron bomb zone.
It's like, it's weird.
There are all these Chinese restaurants in a place called Chinatown.
It's like no people there.
Like, none.
Occasionally, a ninja costume, darts by too fast to see.
You don't know what's happening.
No Asians anywhere can't see the Asians.
Maybe they put on yellow goggles.
I don't know.
But it's just weird.
I mean, this is how crazy social justice warriors are.
It's like, all of the invisibility that Asians have in the racism narrative, white people are racist, white countries are racist, all of the invisibility that Asians have, it's like they suck up all the corporeality of Asians and add it to, like, Hispanics and blacks.
So, can't see Asians, really can see a lot of blacks and Hispanics.
And that's just how it has to be.
Because the moment you acknowledge Asians, the whites are racist narrative completely gets wrecked.
And so, it's just this weird thing.
Like, everybody talks about race in America, and nobody talks about Asians.
Right.
I just, if I were Asians, I'd be, hello!
Hello!
Can you see us?
Hello!
I'm going to touch you in your social justice warrior face.
Can you feel...
And they're like, la la la la la, we can't see any Asians, la la la la la, because we can't blame the whites if we see the Asians.
It's just this bizarre thing, and the moment you start to really see it in society...
Racism!
Whites are racist!
Except for Asians, who they pay a lot more than anyone else, because Asians have a higher IQ per capita on average than whites.
It's just fantastic.
Just, I mean, go to Social Justice Warriors and ask them about Asian people, and they'll be like, who?
Asian people.
No.
Asian people.
Come on.
What are we going to talk about?
Hobbits next?
Give me a break.
There's no such thing as Asian people.
They don't actually exist.
Okay.
Maybe there are some guys with clothespins behind their ears in ancient Kung Fu movies.
But that's just...
That's all CGI. That's all made up stuff.
It's a false flag operation.
It's not real.
Asians are just invented in an attempt to destroy the social justice warrior narrative that whites are racist.
I mean, have you ever seen one in the flesh?
I never have.
They don't exist for me.
How can they for you?
It's all done with mirrors.
NASA is behind it.
Maybe Asians live on the flat Earth, but not on this rotund sphere we call white racist paradise.
No such thing as Asians.
They do not exist.
Asian food is just a conspiracy.
Actually, it's Hispanic food with a lot of spices and a lot of soups and some noodles.
So, really, can't talk about it.
Asians don't exist.
Sorry.
Yeah.
Yeah, no.
What's your...
I mean, obviously, the affirmative action overtones make a lot of sense.
What do you think the UFO and the aliens are all about?
Even seriously?
Seriously?
Come on.
Everyone in the audience is screaming at you.
Really?
It's like you're on Wheel of Fortune and everybody knows the price.
Uh-oh.
What could aliens have to do with cultural differences that harm average workers?
Oh my god.
No, no, it can't be illegal aliens.
It's not much fun being an illegal alien.
Right?
I mean, you get, right?
Okay, yeah.
Okay, wow, that's, yeah, okay, that's making a lot of sense.
Because here's what I see, and I'm not trying to project anything into it, but you're trying to cash a check from your girlfriend.
Now, why doesn't it make much sense that you would try and cash a check from your girlfriend?
You say, I know, it doesn't make much sense.
Why doesn't it make much sense?
Well, I've had girlfriends owe me money and they've written me checks.
Well, I think it was more...
I think what didn't make sense about it was the place I was trying to cash the check.
It wasn't a bank, so...
But...
No, that's an interesting question.
Have you ever had a girlfriend owe you money?
Um...
Owe me money.
No, I... No, not so much, at least not in any kind of explicit sense.
Can you just back away from the mic a bit?
You're getting all kinds of buzzy.
Have you ever lent a girlfriend money?
Not explicitly.
I've certainly paid for, you know, dates and things along those lines and hope for some reciprocation and have gotten it in many cases as well, so...
What's your ratio of reciprocation, you paying and the woman paying in dollar amounts over time, including things like vacations and weekends away and all that kind of stuff?
I know the answer just based on the tone.
Yeah, you do know the answer.
What is it, 80-20, 70-30?
What are we talking?
I haven't done a full accounting, but 80-20 is that sound.
Pretend you're not an engineer.
Give me your gut feeling.
I definitely pay for the overwhelming majority of the things that we do.
So, 90-10?
Probably fairly close.
Okay.
And how long have you been in this relationship?
Well, we started going out in late March.
So, it's been about nine months, I think.
Why do you pay?
Wow, that's...
I bet you.
Sorry, before you answer that, let me give you a complicated question and interrupt you because that's really polite.
Okay.
But $6,000 to $16,000.
You know, if you've been dating for seven or eight or so months, you could have spent that much.
I mean...
I think 16,000 might be a bit high, but...
No, of course.
That's the upper range, right?
Yeah.
But do you think you've spent 6,000 on dates and going away and vacations and whatever?
Presents?
T-t-t-t.
I'm going to say yes, but I can't verify.
No, I get it.
We know this is not exact, but it's not like you have a strict, down the middle of the road, pay each side policy.
Yeah, that's true.
So here, you're trying to cash a check from your girlfriend, and I think this is your unconscious saying that you're paying for it.
You're paying for sex.
You know, it's kind of interesting, because...
So, we've been having conversations, and I guess her mom is somewhat circumspect about me.
And I guess one of the things that she had relayed that her mom is circumspect about me about is that her mom doesn't feel that I spend enough money on her.
So...
That's kind of interesting.
Let me tell you, young man, my daughter's vagina is worth many more shekels than you're currently inserting into it.
As a coin-operated machine of sexuality, you need to get yourself a big giant bag full of quarters, young man.
Wow.
You don't spend enough money on the woman.
And the mom thinks you should be spending more money To continue your sexual access to her daughter's vagina.
Hmm.
I think you need to run.
In my humble opinion, it does not get better from here.
Anyway, that's a topic for another time.
I know I just dropped the bomb, but we can try and get the dream, right?
Because you're basically saying, look, she owes me some money, right?
All right.
Yeah, that's interesting.
Yeah.
You have a receipt in my hand.
You're trying to figure out what to do with that.
Where's the receipt?
What do you need a receipt for?
What do I need the receipt for?
I think it was probably for the check that I was trying to cash.
But why would you have a receipt for a check if you haven't been able to cash it yet?
I don't know.
Okay, that's fine.
If you don't know, that's fine.
Okay, so the security comes back with a generic person and a woman with a broken foot.
So she's like, I have a broken foot.
And the guard is like, she gets to cut in front of you in line, right?
And she said, well, just because you break your foot doesn't mean you get to break all of the rules.
And now in real life, you sprained your ankle, you didn't get to cut in line.
I don't understand that.
Yeah, I'd sprained my ankle earlier in the year, and I don't know.
I was still expected to wait in line with everybody else.
Well, because you're a man.
Because you're a man.
So, suck it up.
Don't be inconvenient.
Now, did you break your ankle after you started dating your current girlfriend?
I sprained my ankle, and yes, that is the case.
We were out hiking.
Oh, she was with you when you sprained it?
Yeah, she was actually.
Did she take care of you?
Did she bring you chicken soup?
Did she do your rest, ice, compression and elevation?
Was she fantastic at taking care of you when you were unwell?
She was actually.
I don't want to give the false impression that My generosity has been unreciprocated in any way.
But you would do the same thing for her, right, if she'd sprained her ankle?
Yes, yes.
So your financial generosity is definitely unreciprocated, right?
She's the financial vacuum, right?
She's like a vagina cash uber.
That's true.
But she does some nice things, too.
For example, a couple of weeks ago, she took me to a really nice restaurant.
I would not normally have gone to this restaurant because I grew up with Midwestern thrifty values.
And she covered the whole thing.
She covered the whole thing.
Have to pay a dime for the...
No, no, listen.
You already told me it's 90-10.
I accept that there's 10.
You don't need to repeat that to me.
My problem isn't that she never pays.
The problem is 90-10.
Right?
Or maybe 80-20.
Something like that.
It's skewed.
It's not 50-50.
It's not 50-50.
Alright.
Okay, so then this idea that disability gets you to cut in line is interesting.
Because...
If a man or a woman was hobbling around on a broken foot, I, and I'm sure you, would, in fact, let them cut in front of me, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's true.
I guess...
No, wait, hang on.
But you say it's true, like, yeah, I guess I'd be guilted into doing that.
But no, I mean, I would be like, please, go ahead.
Your foot is broken, right?
That's true.
So the question is, why are you angry...
That the woman wants to cut in front.
It's not the security guard that's giving her this power, right?
The friend from work, is it a male or female friend?
Sorry to interrupt.
It would have been a male friend.
It's a male friend, okay.
He then said, what are you doing to us?
In a faux angry voice.
Okay, so this person...
Is it the security guard who says, what are you doing to us?
Or your friend from work?
It's the security guard.
And he's male, right?
He is male.
Okay, so this means that the people who are implementing affirmative action in your company must most likely be male.
Yes, that, yeah.
And white males.
And, you know, all the managers in my immediate organization are certainly white males, so.
Okay, so what this means is that you've probably heard the phrase white knight, also sometimes referred to as white knight.
Mangina, also sometimes referred to as Captain Saverho.
But you've probably heard of this, the White Knight, which is that any time a woman sends up her bleating cries of distress, the men come rushing in to castigate you and to protect the woman, right?
It's a basic mating display, which is that if I... If I screw my fellow male, will you screw me?
Right?
That's sort of...
Because, you know, men have no loyalty to each other because we can't use each other to make babies.
I'm sorry, you're cutting out a little bit.
Screw each other in order to screw the women, right?
Okay.
Sorry, you kind of cut out a little bit there?
So, do you have anyone at your work who is...
Who white knights...
Maybe this had something to do with your friend from high school, but who...
Well, I try to avoid those conversations at work, but I can think of a manager or two who certainly fit into the white knight category.
Right, because if you say, well, I have some skepticism about the economic and practical value of promoting people beyond their areas of competence simply based on vagina and skin color, and people would be like, oh no, historical oppression and sexism and racism and you're bad and, you know, let's help these people and so on, right?
Yes.
All right.
And look, there's this giant thing that's going on in the West as a whole, which is, I have some skepticism about the value of Sharia law relative to Anglo-Saxon common law and Roman law traditions, and people are like, but baby boy drowned in surf!
I mean, it's just emotional nonsense that has nothing to do with complete inability to process threat until the threat is too overwhelming to fight back against.
But anyway...
So the friend from work and the security guard would represent, I would assume, are they both white males in the dream?
Yes.
Right.
So these are people who are forcing you to comply for various reasons to let somebody cut in front.
Now, how did you know the woman had a broken foot?
She had...
I guess I don't know for sure that it was broken, but she certainly had kind of a leg...
kind of hobbling around.
So it's certainly her foot was messed up, so it might not have been broken.
Well, no, we don't know that the foot was messed up.
All we know was, right?
Because look, if the dream wanted you to be sure that she had a broken foot, then you would see her foot broken.
Right?
So you see a cast, which means that the broken foot is hidden.
You have the appearance of an injured, Yeah.
Okay.
Like, I could put my foot in a cast and hobble around and nobody would be able to tell for sure, right?
Like, there's an old Desperate Housewives episode where the woman shaves her kid's head because he's got lice and then everyone lets her in line because they think her kid has cancer.
Oh, jeez.
Right?
I mean, so, again, I'm just saying that the dreams are very specific.
Don't take anything as accidental in the dream because nothing is.
A dream can be anything.
It can do anything.
You could have seen this woman breaking her foot.
You could see an open gash.
You could see something.
This is a cast.
Now, a cast, of course, has two meanings.
Well, it's more than two, but the two that are important, I think, here is that, of course, it's the hardened shell casing of an injury with bandages, and also a cast is somebody in a play, somebody in theater, somebody pretending.
Wow.
And the pretense of injury for the sake of advantage is the fundamental political correctness cry-bully phenomenon, right?
Yeah.
The pretense of injury for the sake of advantage.
Yeah.
So you yielded but felt embarrassed, angry, and deeply wronged.
And you yielded.
Why?
Why?
I'm not saying you shouldn't have.
You should have.
Because if you feel embarrassed, angry, and deeply wronged, why would you yield?
Because I thought the consequences of standing by ground would be worse.
Because you have no support.
What?
You have no support.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm living in a very left-wing part of the country right now, and I've got to tell you, it's been interesting trying to make friends over the past few years.
Yeah, don't worry.
It'll be right – It'll be more right-wing when the money runs out, but we've just got to hold our breath until the water of craziness drains away.
And you have no support, right?
The security guard, everyone, there's no one there saying, who's agreeing with you?
Everyone's like, oh, how could you, right?
Yeah.
Right.
Right.
Okay.
You got a friend, as he told us how important it is to accommodate women and those in need, right?
Accommodate women and those in need.
Now, of course, the fact that you had a need is immaterial, right?
The only people objectively wrong through affirmative action are white males and Asians.
This is why I'm saying it's imaginary injuries.
The only legitimate injuries that are objective and traceable of affirmative action are white males and Asians, Asian males in general.
Because they're passed over for promotions.
They're not allowed to be promoted or to even get a job or even to get into college sometimes.
Mm-hmm.
Because, I mean, when it comes to getting into college, black scores are artificially elevated, white scores are somewhat slightly depressed, and Asian scores are depressed even more.
So Asians are not getting into school with high scores so that blacks with low scores can get into school.
And then the blacks say that they're experiencing some sort of injustice.
I mean, I don't even know where your head has to be to say that with a straight face.
Well, yeah.
Can't disagree with anything you've said.
And Asians don't exist, remember?
But white people have to pay for historical injustice.
Right, which I wasn't around to perpetrate.
Because all whites are racist.
And you don't have to prove anything individual because there's systemic racism.
Or, in other words, all white people are racist whether they display any racist characteristics or not.
In other words, there's a collective negative judgment about white people that is somehow portrayed as anti-racist.
And again, the mindset, the mental pretzels that you have to put yourself into In order to make that make any sense to you.
I can't even imagine what kind of contortions you'd have to put yourself into to say, I have a generic negative view of white people and that's how I combat racism.
You know what's interesting about racism that I was thinking about not too long ago?
If you actually do a Google search for the definition of racism, none of the definitions that are given In any way preclude the possibility that a racist sentiment or belief is untrue.
Right.
Rational response to a true belief.
Wait, a racist sentiment or belief is true or untrue?
None of them prevent a racist belief or sentiment from being untrue.
So, all the definitions given technically allow for a Racists believe to be true.
Oh, right.
So if you say, for instance, like the Reverend Jesse Jackson, who is a black activist, if he said...
He said it's tragic that after 20 years of being a black activist, this was I think in the 90s, he said, when I hear footsteps behind me on a street at nighttime and I turn around and it's white people, I'm relieved.
So if he says I'm generally more afraid of black people than white people and he himself is a black activist, would that be considered racist?
Well, statistically, there is more to be scared of the black people than white people because black people can, particularly young black males, Well, they commit a huge amount of crime relative to Asians, for sure, and relative to whites to a lesser degree.
And it's a rational response based on a true belief.
Now, technically, according to the definitions of racism given, all those things...
Technically, it could fit into those definitions, but isn't it interesting that...
Let's just take the Google definition of racism to be the standard one.
Isn't it interesting that it is thought to be the most horrible thing in the world when the set of racist beliefs could potentially include beliefs that are true?
I think it goes even deeper than that.
If I were to say black people owe white people reparations for criminal behavior.
Mm, wow.
Yeah.
Can you imagine?
Like, I'm not, this would not be something that I would, if I said something like that.
This is not, right?
This is the thought exercise, right?
Right.
If I were to say, well, look, black people owe white people reparations for criminal behavior, for the cost of incarceration, and for the high consumption of welfare.
I want a check, and I want it now, because I've been paying way too much in taxes for black consumption of the justice system, of the prison system, and of welfare.
Mm-hmm.
Like, if I were to say that, people would say, are you kidding me?
Not all black people are on welfare.
Not all black people are criminals.
You can't collectively demand money from black people because a proportion of them are on welfare and are criminals.
And I'd say, yes, that is exactly true.
That is exactly right.
But then people can turn around and say, white people owe black people for slavery.
Now, question.
Statistically, were more white people slave owners or are more black people criminals?
I'm guessing you probably have data that indicates that a higher percentage of black people are criminals versus white people who were slave owners.
And I don't have that data on hand, but I'm guessing...
Slave owners in America was two to three percent.
Right.
Okay.
And some of those, a number of white slave owners, and a certain percentage of them were blacks.
Blacks had no problem owning slaves, and no, it wasn't just to reunite families and stuff.
So...
A very small percentage of white people own slaves, and the percentage of criminals who are blacks is higher than the percentage of whites who were slave owners.
Plus, slave owners were 150 plus years ago, the black criminals kind of in the here and now.
A little bit more tangible in their manifestation.
On top of that, there are all sorts of subgroups of white people who really weren't in the country.
To a significant proportion at the time that we actually had slavery.
Like some guy who comes over from Poland in 1980.
Yeah.
I mean, his ancestors were the slaves of the Muslims, for God's sake.
So, I mean, this is how insane things are.
That if a white person were to say, black people owe me reparations for criminality and welfare consumption, people would say, that's horribly collectivist and racist.
But black people and others can say white people owe them for slavery even though there is no white person alive who ever owned slaves and the percentage of white slave owners is far lower than the percentage of black criminals.
And they can all say this with a straight face and that's because simple basic truths about race have been so charged with emotional hysteria and abuse that there's no possibility in the current context of society to have anything close to an honest discussion about race.
An honest discussion about race is white people feel bad give us money.
Or we're going to call you racists.
This is what is called an honest conversation about race.
And so when you are saying, well, I'm going to just comply.
You know, like now saying racists should not be treated differently under the law is called racist.
Like this is how insane things have become.
Affirmative action is treating races and genders differently under the law.
Different laws for blacks, different laws for Hispanics, different laws for whites, and of course you can't pass laws on ghosts, so nothing for Asians, right?
Except maybe just exclude them from education if they're too competent, too able, because Lord knows America's economy is going to get even stronger if you keep the smartest people out of the economy.
Nothing but great things can happen.
And so...
To say, let's get rid of affirmative action and let's have all races equal under the eyes of the law, to say that is considered racist.
To say the law should not discriminate on the basis of race is now considered racist.
Now, there is a definition of racism which says that racism cannot exist unless you can do harm.
Right, so black people can't be racist against white people because black people have no power, and therefore you can't be racist if you have no power, and therefore only white people can be racist.
Well, I think that's based off of an immature understanding of power, but anyway.
No, it's not based off anything that sophisticated.
It's just based on...
Racism is a club used to humiliate and destroy white culture.
And the fact that I've been called the most unbelievably racist names on the internet, and I don't mean, Steph, you're a racist.
I mean, Cracker and whatever it is, right?
I mean, just go to my videos on Nelson Mandela or Martin Luther King Jr.
or...
Maya Angelou and so on.
Those are some great videos, by the way.
Thank you.
I thought they were.
Or South Africa.
And the most horribly racist stuff is spewed out in the comments section there.
I mean, I haven't checked in a long time, but this is sort of my understanding.
Doesn't matter.
Doesn't matter.
Right?
So black racism is as visible as Asian economic success.
Doesn't exist.
Doesn't fit the narrative.
Doesn't exist.
Yeah.
Yeah, and actually my understanding is that there is some data clearly indicating that, for example, blacks are more uneasy about interracial marriage than, say, whites are and other indicators of racism.
It only takes a layman's understanding of economics to understand that Tribalism and in-group preferences exist across nature and across all species, including the human species.
And if you can get away with negative behavior, more people are likely to get away with negative behavior.
Like if you had a we won't prosecute shoplifters day at your store, how many goods would be left?
On your shelves at the end of your day.
Well, not that many.
Yeah.
And so because black racism is shielded from any kind of consequences, it's never discussed, it's never outlined, and it's certainly never ostracized or socially punished, right?
Right.
And so because black racism is not punished and white racism is hysterically punished, like it's like the Salem witch trials when it comes to white racism, of course blacks are going to be more racist than whites because that's basic economics.
Because they're never, well, very rarely is black racism talked about, exposed, discussed.
I mean, black homophobia is huge in the black community.
Homophobia is huge in the black community.
And it's never discussed.
Can't talk about it.
South Park.
Was it South Park?
No, Family Guy just had this thing on black on black violence.
And capitalism in the West happened to be products of white civilization to a large degree.
So whites are the innocent bystanders when it comes to replacing capitalism with communism and socialism.
And so whites are just the bystanders that have to be shot in order to destroy the system that whites largely created.
So it's got nothing to do with anything else.
This is the only thing that explains all of this peculiar myopia and obsessive focus and complete ignorance of basic facts.
And this is, you know, the fact that you're having this dream.
There is...
There's a change.
I think we've hit peak racist hysteria and so on.
Things are just getting too lunatic.
I did this video on what's going on at the University of Missouri.
Things are just getting too ridiculous.
I think finally it's beginning to break.
Actually, even in my current very left-wing environment, I've noticed, at least within the last year, I've been noticing sentiment The standard leftist narrative on these topics vary from people who I wouldn't have expected them from.
It's like getting to the point where even people who I would have expected to still be all on board are starting to see how ridiculous things are getting.
Look, if anybody cares about the black community and wants to continue with the status quo, well, you pick one.
You can't have both.
If you want to continue with the status quo, you don't give a shit about the blacks.
In fact, you got it.
There's no greater racist than somebody who wants to continue the status quo in America because the status quo is destroying the black community.
It's destroying black culture.
It's destroying the black family.
As Tom Sowell, the great economist, has pointed out, the welfare state has done what even slavery couldn't do, which is to destroy the black family.
Anybody who wants to continue with the status quo, which tends to be leftist, or who want to escalate the status quo, which tends to be leftist, anybody who wants to continue the status quo harbors truly murderous feelings towards blacks and is the worst kind of racist that can be imagined.
Anybody who's questioning or wishes to challenge the existing status quo and look for different solutions is the only person who genuinely has even a shred of concern or care for minority communities.
So I hope that that's beginning to even show up for lefties.
I mean, lefties, you know, they seem to be immune to reality until they're not.
And then there's usually a big change.
You know, the higher the dam, the worse the break.
And I think it's been dammed up for a couple of generations now.
Okay, let's go back to the dream.
Yeah.
Sorry, go ahead.
Sorry.
So where were we?
Okay, so you've got no...
You've got no social support, and the two other white males are saying, no, no, no, you've got to let the woman with the potentially fake injury cut in front of you, which is affirmative action at work, and the fact that you had an injury as well.
It's interesting to me that I've always been fascinated by the playfulness of language in dreams, and this is probably nothing, but it struck me when you were saying it, that the woman has no use of her foot, right?
No use of her foot?
Well, her foot is broken, right?
Okay, yeah.
And another way of phrasing that would be defeated.
Interesting.
Right, because you're defeated in this, right?
And so the fact that it's a foot injury and you had a foot injury and defeat is just kind of interesting way of, again, it may be nothing, but it's just, it's interesting the way this stuff all sort of compresses in together.
Yeah.
Okay, so you follow the guard around with your friend as you get lectured.
About how to accommodate women and those in need.
So then you go back to the counter.
The lady's gone.
Can't find the receipt.
You're concerned.
So wait, did you lose the money?
I don't know about...
I can't find the receipt.
But I still don't quite understand the receipt.
Did you get the check cash?
Did they give you a receipt saying that they're going to do it in the future?
Or what is the receipt for?
I think that I cashed the check and I got the receipt.
Oh, and the receipt is what you need for the money?
I think, perhaps, yeah.
Okay, so you lost the money?
I guess, yes.
So you got guilted, and you gave up your standards for fear of social attack, and you lost your money.
Wow, yeah.
Okay, well, welcome to modern white culture.
Yeah, I'll tell you.
Wow.
Wow.
My friend went over to the store windows and said, look, aliens take pictures.
So we've got women.
We don't have any minorities yet, but here we've got aliens coming in, right?
Yeah, and we're talking the greys, you know, those, you know, the, I don't know if you know.
Like the big almond face, big eyed guys?
Yeah, they look a little bit like praying mantises, yeah.
Right, right.
The big eyes.
All right.
Big camera.
Take pictures.
I took the original alien pictures.
I don't know what that means.
I don't know what that means either, but it struck me that he said that and he sounded so proud about it.
The security guard.
Now, we're going back in time here.
Yeah.
How old are you?
I'm 30.
Just give me a decade.
I'm 30.
Okay.
That's a decade.
Yeah.
So, you're too young to really have heavily pixelated games, right?
Do you have any interest in old arcade games?
Do you do, like, multiple arcade machine emulator MAME stuff or anything like that?
Oh, no.
When I was little, we had the old Atari system and...
Wait, wait.
Not the 2600.
Well, okay.
Maybe not that old, but...
Wait, are these 30 Earth years or are you from Uranus or something?
No, we had an Atari when I was growing up.
It was my older half-brothers, but we still had it around.
And eventually we upgraded to Nintendo and all that good stuff.
So, yeah.
But I mean, I've seen the old arcade games and I used to like to...
When I was little, I used to like to play them.
But I know what they look like.
Alright.
Because we're talking back in high school now, right?
Because your friend turns out to be someone from high school?
Really, I met him in elementary school, but we've been friends for a long time.
Yeah.
Okay.
The UFO emitted a big red flash.
Hmm.
Red being the color of which political system?
Either the Republicans or the Communists.
I think we're going to go with the Communists on this one.
Okay.
And you're afraid of being abducted.
Now, do you have any...
You know, when I was around as a kid in the 70s with Close Encounters of the movie, Close Encounters of the Third Kind, aliens were like a big thing.
Oh, yeah.
They were a big thing for me growing up.
And actually...
This friend and me, when we were in elementary school, we used to love watching Unsolved Mysteries, and we had kind of like a little ghost hunters club in which we tried to hunt out paranormal phenomena.
Oh, you went pretty full voodoo on this shit, right?
Well, yeah, in elementary school.
We grew out of it, but...
Right.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, so...
I don't know.
I hesitate to bring this up, but...
My...
My mother thinks she may have possibly been abducted when she was little.
But anyway, that's...
What do you mean, but anyway?
Like, we're just going to move past that.
Okay, moving on from your mother being abducted by space aliens, which can't have anything to do with your dream.
Dude, are you just trying to Freud me completely here?
Sorry.
No, you're right.
And then a big flying saucer that looked like the hoo-hoo I fell out of.
Okay, sorry.
Alright, so your mother thinks that she might have been abducted by space aliens when she was.
She was very little, she said.
Her family was living in a very rural area.
And she remembers this one night where she remembers getting up from bed and some kind of thing came down in the Backyard and then these little people came out that she thought were Santa's elves and she was afraid so she jumped in the bed and hid under the covers and then when she woke up there was this big gash on her leg and then years later when she grew up she was watching this program about alien abductions
and they were talking about Some of the people being interviewed relayed similar type experiences and they found things embedded in the leg.
She never had her leg x-rayed or anything, but she had relayed that she...
And did she still have the scar?
It's still...
I mean, it's not nearly as visible as she said.
Come on, just give me a yes or no here.
Come on.
She still has...
She has a scar that she says, what, came from space aliens?
Yeah.
Well, her father told her that she probably just hit her leg on the bedpost.
I don't think that gives you a gash.
A bruise, yes.
Again, maybe it was a different kind of bed.
There's a theory, I think Carl Sagan put it out in The Demon Haunted World, but there's a theory that says that alien abductions are unconscious recastings of nighttime sexual abuse.
Oh dear.
I... This just went to a dark place.
Probes and injuries and all that kind of stuff, right?
This just went to a very dark place.
I mean, we're kind of getting into an area that I don't feel like I have the necessary background knowledge to talk about.
Well, you're not coming on as an expert.
You're coming on as a person with history, thoughts, and feelings, and a dream.
Yes, that is true.
Do you know, I mean, did your mother have any disturbed sexuality as an adult or anything like that you know about?
No, I don't think so.
Not that I'm aware of.
I mean, she was kind of a pretty girl, so my understanding is she had...
Before she met my dad, my understanding is that she went to bars a lot and stuff, but anyway.
Wait, went to bars a lot?
Is that a nice way of saying she slept around a lot?
I'm just relaying as close to verbatim as possible what I've been told.
So I couldn't tell you that.
And what's the blended family story?
You said half-brother.
Oh, yes.
So my father...
He was...
He kind of grew up a pretty angry child.
And I actually had a...
No, no, no, no, no.
Nobody grows up an angry child.
No child is born angry.
No.
Okay, I'm going to get to that.
I'm going to get to that.
He was pretty severely beaten by his mother growing up.
And so he grew up angry.
And actually, I turned him on to this show, so he might end up listening to this.
So I hope it's okay that I'm talking about this, Dad.
But...
Well, there's no names here, and obviously if he ends up listening to this, massive, massive sympathies.
Yeah, seriously.
I got him to open up to me about this last year, and I kind of suspected this was true for a while by reading between the lines, but I think we had a very touching heart-to-heart about this, and how grateful I was that he...
When I was little, they...
There was spanking, but he didn't want to do that anymore, so he took a class about alternative nonviolent methods of dealing with children, and I'm very grateful that he did that.
Yeah, good for him.
How old were you when this happened?
How old was I when...
Well, it was before I was in kindergarten, but I have some vague memories of when...
I would get out of line and the spanking happened.
I don't remember a lot of anger.
It was more of a, you broke the rules and these are the consequences type of attitude about it.
Does your mother know about your father's childhood abuse?
Well, I think so.
I know she does now.
They're divorced now.
They got divorced when I was 22.
Why did they get divorced?
So...
That's complicated.
To make long story short...
Probably the primary thing was money issues is what led to this.
I mean, it was...
I mean, I remember she...
They were not on the same page regarding how money should be spent.
My mom was a lot more conservative with finances and my dad had a tendency to...
Spend money on what I would characterize as get-rich-quick schemes.
And also, like, conspiracy theory stuff.
Part of why I was so into that sort of thing when I was little.
Wait, so your father is into conspiracy theories and your mother thinks she was abducted by space aliens?
She thinks she might have been.
Okay, that's not really the big distinction that you think it is.
Okay, fair enough.
Yes.
So your father tries to do these get-rich-quick schemes and your mother doesn't want him to spend this money?
She wants to save the money?
Yeah.
I think that's a big part of it.
That was a big part of it.
And they ended up getting divorced.
Well, it's not because of money issues.
Saying that people get...
Divorced because of disagreements is like saying people get killed because of disagreements.
People don't get divorced because of disagreements because everybody has disagreements.
People get divorced because they don't resolve those disagreements in the same way that people get killed because disagreements escalate and everybody digs in and they continue to escalate until there's some sort of rupture, whether that's violence or divorce.
So, when people talk about, well, my parents got divorced because they had conflicts.
Everybody's got conflicts.
Your parents got divorced because they were either too proud or too stubborn or whatever it was, but it's a personal flaw and failure on one or both of their parts, usually both.
That's why people get divorced.
People don't get divorced because they have money problems or they have disagreements.
It's because they're not mature enough or responsible enough to resolve those disagreements in a productive and mature way.
Okay.
Well, getting back to the mixed family thing, because this kind of feeds into it.
So what kind of drove me, and I asked my mom about this later, because it just drove me insane that I couldn't figure out why she married my dad because everything that she complained about by her own admission she knew about very early on in their relationship and so her rationalization for why she ended up marrying my father was because she wanted to save she wanted to help
she claimed that she wanted to help my older half-brother at the time so the older half-brother comes from My dad, obviously.
So when he was young, he kind of ran away to California and kind of lived in the mountains and kind of went into town every now and then to do odd jobs to get some money for supplies and then went out back into the wilderness.
And somewhere in the middle of all that, he ended up knocking up his hippie girlfriend.
To make a long story short, he ended up keeping the baby, and shortly after my older half-brother was born, she abandoned them.
My older half-brother never got so much as a birthday card from his biological mother.
What?
She just abandoned her baby?
Yeah.
I mean, the poor kid.
Not exactly the age of Aquarius or breastfeeding.
Yeah.
So your dad knocked up a seriously disturbed woman.
Yes.
In fact...
Like way, way disturbed.
My understanding is that she was actually...
She might have actually been legally married to somebody else at the time that he met her in the...
Well, look, after abandoning baby, nothing you say is like...
Yeah.
And, right?
And she had unpaid parking tickets.
Okay.
So, he ends up with this kid.
This woman has run off and abandoned her only child.
And...
So your mother then wants to help this boy and so marries your dad.
I don't quite follow that.
Yeah, I know.
I think it's a rationalization hamster thing, but...
No, it's an excuse thing.
Yeah.
Because you say to your mom, you're responsible for marrying dad because the things you complain about are things he manifested before you got married.
And she's like, but it was the child.
You know, I don't mean to mock, but it just sounds like a way of recasting a bad decision is some altruistic angelic thing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, if you ask me, I think it's due to the fact that my dad has a number of alpha-ish characteristics.
I wouldn't call him a...
I mean, certainly a guy with a single father type guy.
And he had a good union job at the time, so that was probably attractive as well.
So why does he want these get-rich-quick schemes?
Why does he want to be rich?
I... Well, I guess he'd be the one who'd have to tell you that for sure.
I think a large part of it, though, has to do with an inner need he has.
I think probably the same reason why he was into conspiracy theories is a need to feel special, like he can prove all of his teachers and the people he was rebelling against wrong in the long run.
No.
Oh, you don't think so?
No, no.
No.
No.
Look, you said your mother was the pretty one, right?
Yes.
Okay.
So for a woman, what does pretty mean when it comes to looking for a man?
Money.
Right.
Nothing wrong with it?
No.
Eggs for resources.
We've talked about this on the show.
I can give you the short version because you're a long-time listener.
But she's pretty, and so she's trading in her pretty for lots of resources, right?
He's got alpha characteristics.
He's got a good union job.
So she's like, my vagina on the resource market is worth your dad, right?
Yeah.
And women have to gamble because they have to assume that the man is going to continue to increase his income.
Right?
The man can judge the fertility.
There's some gamble because women can look fertile while being infertile, right?
They can be young and...
Like 10% of married couples, as far as I understand it, have trouble conceiving and making babies and all that.
So a man has some gamble in that he might marry a woman and it turned out she's a dry doe, right?
The eggs are, I don't know, ostrich eggs from the Paleolithic era or something like that.
And you can douse them with all of the man yogurt you want.
They're not going to go anyplace useful, right?
So the woman also has to gamble that the man is going to keep his job or continue to increase His wealth, right?
And I'm guessing that your father, Nick, did not manage to increase his income over time substantially.
Well, I mean, he got raises, of course, as part of...
You know, it was a good union job.
So, I mean, seniority.
And, you know, it was...
He hated his job.
He really did.
And I respect him for...
It didn't really suit with his character.
Dude, no, no, no.
We're talking about women.
And again, there is exceptions, of course, right?
But how many women say to their men, listen, you hate your job.
Let's find you something else to do.
I'm happy to go live...
In a small place.
I'm happy to give up some income.
We don't have to have a nice car.
I can't stand to see you getting up every morning and going to work to a place that you hate.
Life's short.
I love you.
I want the best for you.
You've really got to start pursuing your dreams.
We'll take the financial hit.
I'm totally down for that.
My wife did it, but how many...
How many women do?
Did your mother do that?
No, in fact, somewhat the opposite.
Yeah, go make the money, man mule!
Well, there is another factor involved in this, and it is that part of having that good job meant he had very good health benefits, which was important for me because I was born with a congenital heart condition.
So, I mean...
Of course, my sympathy is for you there, but that was resolved at some point, right?
Well, I'm still dealing with it.
I had my fourth open-heart surgery just a couple of years ago for the first time on my own in health insurance.
Actually, when I was recovering from that, that's when I really got into your show.
Okay, so to balance things out and to be fair, it could have been out of concern and probably was out of concern for your health that your mother encouraged your father to keep his job.
But is it not possible that he could have got a job more in line with his preferences that also would have had some kind of health insurance?
I guess not with pre-existing, this is back in the day, right?
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, it's possible.
I mean...
Obviously, he had made a lot of stupid decisions in his youth in which he was kind of lucky to land the job that he did.
Okay.
All right.
Well, that's a fair wrinkle in your mother's calculations, right?
Yeah.
The operations are concerned that you're going to die.
All right.
Yeah.
And was your mother a healthy pregnant woman?
In other words, do you know that she took care of...
She, well, I obviously wasn't there to, well, I wasn't observing this, but she certainly claims that she did everything that she could to keep up her health and that So she didn't smoke, she didn't drink or anything like that, right?
No, no.
She said she gave all that up when she decided to have children.
Wait, she used to smoke and drink?
Well, she didn't smoke.
I'm sorry.
My dad used to smoke, but he gave that up before I came around.
What about antidepressants?
No antidepressants.
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
They've just been...
There have been some studies lately.
Yeah, I mean, she expressed that she used to eat, she ate a lot of apples during her pregnancy.
And some years ago, she saw something about some link between pesticides that they, anyway.
All right.
Okay.
So, but still, why did he, is your father materialistic?
I'm still trying to figure out why does he want these get-rich-quick schemes?
If he's got a steady job and he's got seniority and he's got a good, I guess, decent middle class income, why does he want more money?
Though he could quit his job, I think.
He hates working under other people.
He doesn't like...
Okay, that's not...
If he's had a good middle-class income job, and you know, you're...
You said they divorced when you were 22, right?
So I assume he got the job before you came along, right?
Oh yeah, yeah.
Okay, so he's got 30 years or so, 25 or 30 years, into a good unionized job with benefits and a retirement package, right?
Oh yeah, yeah.
So why the hell couldn't he retire?
I mean, cops do it after 20 years quite regularly.
And people in the military, they retire and they can either work another job or...
Well, by that point, well, I mean, after they divorced, he did quit his job shortly afterwards because it was like...
Wait a minute.
After he divorced your mom or your mom divorced him, he was able to quit his job.
She initiated the divorce.
So the reason he couldn't quit his job is because your mother didn't want the reduction in income?
That would seem to be part of it.
Yeah.
Well, he gets divorced and he quits his job.
So the reason he didn't quit is because your mother didn't want him to quit.
That is true.
Tell me where my logic is off because it seems kind of causal to me.
Your logic is not off.
I have that interpretation as well.
So your mother wanted him to keep working.
And that's why he couldn't quit his job.
Yeah.
Because after he got divorced, he quit his job, right?
Yeah.
So why did he want to keep working?
I assume that he makes more money when he's working than when he's retired.
That seems to be the case.
So your mother wanted more money.
Yeah.
Certainly more stable money, I should say.
No, no.
Retirement income is pretty damn stable.
Yeah.
Okay.
It doesn't change.
It doesn't fluctuate.
Yeah.
Sum them out one year and half that the next year and double that the year after, right?
So your mother wanted more money and you're now dating a woman where you pay more money.
Yeah, I mean, that's certainly the case.
You sound like this is like, yeah, well, okay, I can give you that point, but it's like, dude, it's important stuff.
You're like, yeah, well, you know, fine, you know, and you know, the medians are painted yellow, not white, so what, right?
Good point.
Okay, I'm...
You're kind of brushing that one off, right?
I'm brushing that one off because I kind of almost don't want to...
Kind of almost.
You don't want to, right?
I don't particularly, yeah.
And your mom wanted your dad to pay more money to her, right?
It wasn't like your mom said, you need to keep working so that we can send money to a charity overseas, right?
So your mom was like, ah, you know, you're not giving me enough money, so I'm going to divorce you.
And now your girlfriend's mother says, what about you?
Well, to be fair, she hasn't said this to my face.
No, that is not to be fair.
That means she's both a greedy, materialistic bitch and a coward.
Okay.
So your girlfriend's mother has said what about you?
That I don't spend enough money on her daughter.
Yeah!
So your dad not spending enough money on your mom, and you not spending enough money on your girlfriend.
Hmm.
And who is the big problem at the beginning of your dream is a woman.
Right?
And the UFO is associated with your mother because she's the one who says she might have been abducted.
Right?
Yeah.
Wow.
Wow.
Yeah, let's finish off the drink.
I think we're getting somewhere good now.
Yeah.
Not that we were.
Okay, yeah.
So, yeah.
Okay, so let's go.
So, you rush outside to find...
The UFO emits a big red flash, so it fly down behind the store.
My friend, who at this time I recognized, a high school friend of myself, rushed out back to find the vessel.
Okay.
You're terrified because you don't want to be abducted, and then you run towards the UFO. Riddle me this, Batman.
What the hell does that mean?
I'm terrified of this thing!
I've got to get closer.
Wait, that's just men and women as a whole, or men with women as a whole, right?
But why are you running towards it?
You can't stand up to a woman with a broken foot who wants to bud in line, but you want to run towards space aliens who you're terrified are going to abduct you.
Yeah.
Makes no sense, right?
The dream is telling you something about courage.
Yeah.
Wow.
Is your high school friend supporting you?
Well, he was the one who initiated the attack against the first alien, so...
Are we talking in the real world?
When you're supported, you have courage, even to the point of danger.
When you're not supported, you have no courage.
That courage is a social phenomenon.
And I actually believe that that's true.
This idea that there's this individual courage that you planted deep enough and you move the whole world and so on.
That's bullshit.
I have courage because people like you and others support me.
They send me nice notes.
My courage is a community phenomenon.
It is a manifestation of support within a community of people interested in philosophy who are passionate about what we're talking about.
I have no individual courage because individual courage is called suicide.
Historically.
In other words, if you try and act against the values of the tribe with no support from anyone, you're either going to get killed, you're going to get ostracized, or no woman is going to sleep with you and you're going to experience gene death.
There's no such thing as individual courage.
Courage is a collective phenomenon, which is why when we manifest courage to the degree that we're able to, we add to the courage of others.
Courage is a virus that spreads through courageous actions.
I know that my example of speaking courageously in this conversation, which is the result of support from people like yourself, and my own choices as well.
I don't want to say I'm entirely a social manifestation.
This has caused other people to speak courageously in their lives.
Courage is a social phenomenon.
And I think the dream is saying this because in the first part, you get no support and you have to submit to something you feel is wrong and unjust.
In the second, even though you're terrified, somebody is with you and supporting you and encouraging you and acting courageously.
Therefore, you can act courageously as well, right?
Yeah.
Which means that if you want to have virtues, surround yourself with people who manifest those virtues.
We have this idea, maybe it comes from, I think it comes from Christianity, where it's you and God and the soul and the devil, and it's all about just your individual choice, even though, of course, churches are very important in the Christian faith, as they are in most faiths.
But virtues is not something you stand in a dark room in front of a mirror with a candlelight and talk yourself into being virtuous.
It's not.
Virtue is about who you surround yourself with.
It's all it is.
Virtue is having the courage of virtuous companionship.
That's what virtue is.
Virtue is not just something you will in the dark alone.
It's not masturbation.
It's a group sex act of goodness, right?
And so this is why I'm continually nagging at people to surround yourself with good people.
If you surround yourself with good people, virtue becomes a habit that is...
Irresistible.
If you surround yourself with bad people, virtue becomes ostracism and social suicide and something which you will avoid.
Choose your companions, you choose your virtues.
And I think that there is something in this here in terms of courage.
Yeah.
I didn't make that connection before.
That was profound.
Wow.
Because you do amazingly courageous things when you're supported in this relationship.
Whether they're wise or not, we'll get to as we go along.
Oh, it just occurred to me.
My dad, he would always play music.
He played guitar, rock music, that kind of thing.
He's always been in bands as far back as I can remember.
I understand that when talking to my uncle that About trying to figure out why my mom married my dad.
My uncle's interpretation, her brother's interpretation, was that she found his kind of rock star persona somewhat romantic.
That's why there's music.
Anyway, it just occurred to me that electric guitar music, that's symbolizing my dad because he's always tried to set up an environment where he encourages me to think differently.
I think to a large extent because of some Like, we used to have a lot of philosophical-ish conversations when I was growing up, me and my dad.
And I think that's part of what...
It attracted me to your show, and I forwarded some of your podcasts to my dad, and he loves it too, so you might end up hearing this.
All right, so that's cool.
I mean, look, especially the modern rock guitar is giant public masturbation.
There can be no doubt.
I mean, it's basically low-slung, giant, sideways, flat cock.
That's all.
I mean, even the frets, like the tooting stuff at the end is like the head of the penis.
I mean, it's not even subtle, right?
Okay.
Like the gay lute, it's being superseded by the giant porn cock of the modern guitar landscape.
All right.
So...
Let's see here.
Let me just go.
So you go to guitar music.
We go out back to Vesselus Land, but two aliens outside.
One was out front.
The other came into view behind the saucer, driving a small vehicle with caterpillar treads.
They both looked like bad CG, and they were both repeatedly saying, welcome, humans.
Don't be afraid.
My friend attacked the first alien.
I said, don't be afraid, because they should be afraid, people.
That's just kind of funny.
Don't be afraid.
Why are you attacking me?
So the aliens are idiots, right?
Yeah.
My friend attacked the first alien and then I ran for the second and roundhouse kicked the alien in the head.
Okay.
So this is the great danger of the social virtues that we're talking about.
And this is why I said, well, let's look at the wisdom of what you're doing, right?
You're violating the non-aggression principle here, right?
Oh, yeah.
Yes, I am.
They haven't attacked you.
That's true.
So here, you have the danger of conformity in the beginning is the security guard of the woman, the broken foot.
And you conform...
To the general craziness around you.
Oh my gosh.
And here, again, you conform to the, my friend attacked, so I have to, like, you don't say stop, right?
Yeah.
Don't be afraid.
They're saying, welcome.
We're here.
We come in peace.
We come in friends.
We're friends, right?
And he attacks.
And then you're like, okay, like, you're missing a moral compass here, right?
Yeah.
Why the hell are you attacking these aliens?
Something just hit me is that recently, I mean, I've had some fairly dark thoughts about, say, Muslims and some of the other immigrants, largely out of frustration with government policy regarding them coming into the country,
but it's I haven't acted out any of this, but I've had some dark thoughts about them.
Because you're a human being.
Just read the Quran about non-Muslims and then you'll see some pretty damn dark thoughts.
This is not particular to you.
You know, I had a crush on a Muslim girl in grad school, and I started reading up on that.
Yeah.
Anyway, no need to go into that.
So your friend is attacking the first alien, and you run for the second roundhouse, kick the alien in the head.
Then I looked back at the UFO and saw stairs into the cockpit.
I ran up the stairs and saw a middle-aged man in a rubber suit with a fake-looking antenna.
He declared, I am the king of this dimension.
I looked outside and saw that my friend was still struggling with his alien, but was winning.
I pushed the man in the rubber suit aside, took the controls, and then I woke up.
So who's the middle-aged man?
Did you recognize him at all in the dream?
You know, I felt like I recognized him, but I couldn't quite place him.
He had kind of a white, stubble beard.
I guess he looked vaguely like a professor I had in college.
I have a bit of white in my beard.
I'm middle-aged.
I like me a good rubber suit.
Sorry, just kidding.
Just giving you more bad dreams.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay, so this is interesting.
So I am the king in this dimension.
A middle-aged man in a rubber suit.
Okay, what does the rubber suit look like?
Is it like the gimp from Pulp Fiction?
What is the rubber suit here?
Well, it just...
It kind of...
It might not have been rubber.
Did you ever see those pictures of John Kerry during the 2004 campaign when he was at NASA and he was in what was kind of referred to as the sperm costume or something?
Okay, you didn't dream that, right?
No.
That's a good dream that you'd wake up screaming from.
Okay, I'm just going to type sperm into Google.
Okay, maybe.
John Kerry's sperm costume.
Okay, hang on a sec.
I need the visuals here.
Yeah, maybe.
John Kerry's sperm donations.
Okay, sperm costume.
All right, let's see what the hell this means.
Oh!
Thank you.
What am I seeing?
Oh my god.
Yeah.
It's that one.
He's got this giant tube.
Yeah.
This giant tube.
So it basically looks like he's being given birth to.
Okay.
Is this the one I'm thinking of?
He's in a suit and he's got something going over his head.
He looks like Woody Allen in Yeah, it looked a little bit like that, except it had fake an eye.
All right.
All right, okay.
So there's not really aliens then, right?
Because this is a human being who's in the spaceship, right?
Yeah.
I'm thinking Barack Obama.
He was white, but it could be Barack Obama.
I don't know.
Well, he's half white.
Good point.
Fake looking antennae.
I'm just trying to figure this out.
Why do you run into the cockpit?
What are you trying to do here?
I don't know what I was thinking.
I think I was trying to take him out or something.
Because I was in fight or flight mode.
I mean, I woke up from this dream like adrenaline pumping.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, I was ready to kick some ass.
So, it was, I mean, it felt like this was the War of the Worlds, almost.
Now, he says, I am the king in this dimension, but he's not the king, because you just push him aside.
Yeah.
So, this dimension that he's talking about is not reality in the dream, right?
Yeah, probably not.
And he doesn't know.
So he must think, when he says I'm king in this dimension, he must think that this dimension is your dimension.
But it turns out that his dimension where he's king is not your dimension because you can just push him aside and take the controls.
Yeah.
So he's delusional.
Right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's delusional because he thinks he has power over you.
And he doesn't.
Do you follow Donald Trump at all?
You know, I'm interested in Donald Trump.
I can't say that...
I can't say he'd be my first pick for the office, but...
No, no, I didn't ask you political opinions.
I mean, just are you following his...
Because Donald Trump is looming huge in American consciousness at the moment.
And I bet you the number of people dreaming about something to do with Donald Trump is in the tens of millions every night in America.
Yeah.
No, I was following Donald Trump.
I've been very interested in Mr.
Trump.
At the very least, in the state I'm in, I can't really do much to affect the election, but at the very least, it's really entertaining to...
I wouldn't underestimate your capacity to affect the election, if you want.
Oh, okay.
No, you're right.
I know I've got lots of arguments against voting, So I'm not trying to pretend that I don't.
But don't just say something like, I have no capacity or I have no real capacity to affect the election.
That's a choice.
If you took the next year off and decided to spend everything you had trying to promote what you felt was valuable in the election, it may have some effect.
I'm just saying.
I'm not saying you should or shouldn't.
You're correct.
I'm excusing myself of responsibility here.
So...
The rubber suit.
The fake-looking antennae.
So, the antennae is fake.
So, if the antennae is fake, then he's putting it on...
Is he trying to look like an alien?
Yeah.
Did the aliens out front have antennae?
Yeah, it kind of looked like a costume, almost.
No, the aliens out front didn't have an antennae.
The...
It was kind of off, because it looked like he was dressed in a stereotypical alien costume.
But, you know, it didn't look anything like, you know, with the antennae and that sort of thing.
The media.
The media, yeah.
The media.
The media.
Fake looking antennae.
The media, like antennae, at least when I was a kid, that's how you got your media.
I know you're younger and all that, right?
Well, we didn't have cable when I was growing up, so I had to deal with it.
So you got your media through an antennae?
Yeah.
Yeah, when I was younger, before we got internet.
I am the king in this dimension.
The media, they genuinely believe that they're the kingmakers.
Yeah.
In some ways, they're right.
I mean, they anointed Barack Obama.
They...
He felt his inseam in inappropriate ways, to put it as mildly as possible, and he ended up getting elected.
They believe that they are the kingmakers.
And you know, that election cycle, the one in which Barack Obama came into power, that's when I was really alerted to how corrupt and evil the American media is.
Because...
I was a supporter of Ron Paul back in 08 and it was just if you followed that campaign at all it was just so clear that the double standards the just the way that it just became so clear how the media might not pick the president but it picks who you're allowed to pick for president if that makes any sense.
Well, the media picks the president in so far as, to a large degree, the media, they're not stupid.
They don't do things that don't work.
And the degree to which they throw themselves behind Democrats and relentlessly attack Republicans, and the degree to which everyone is aligned against Donald Trump.
Right, and the degree to which, on the conservative side, they align themselves with what has become Recently come to be known as cuck-servatives.
Yeah, so, I mean, the only thing that I truly love about Donald Trump is how much everyone hates him.
Yeah, that's kind of what I love about him, too.
And the fact that the media says, I'm the king in this dimension.
But you can just push them aside and take control.
Yeah.
That's kind of Donald Trump.
Yeah, you're right.
Yeah, I had this dream in September, I think, so that wasn't that long after he...
That was shortly after the immigrants and rapists and all this kind of stuff.
Yeah.
And he is showing the degree to which people's fear of the media has been unjustified.
Overblown, yeah.
Yeah.
Were you listening to our show in September?
You were, right?
Yeah, I've been listening to your show.
Because we covered a lot.
We did a lot of Donald Trump stuff in September.
Yeah, I guess you did.
I mean, I've been listening to your show years after your last operation.
Yeah, I got into it kind of in the fall, kind of in November, December of 2013, I was recuperating, so...
I'd seen some of your videos before.
With fake-looking antennae and rubber suit.
I am the king of this dimension.
Now, it's the media and it's the Democrats, right?
Yeah.
Because the media say, the Democrats say that the aliens come in peace.
Mm-hmm.
Right?
And Donald Trump is saying, they don't.
A lot of times.
Right?
And they're saying, well, the Muslims come in peace.
And Donald Trump is saying, they don't.
A lot of times.
Yeah.
Right?
So, the aliens...
Welcome humans.
Don't be afraid.
Your friend attacks the first alien.
Ran for the second.
Ran the house.
Kicked the alien in the head.
And so, this...
I mean, this is a challenge because obviously what Donald Trump says about immigrant crime has some statistical validity to it.
Yes.
And so what this dream is saying is don't fight the alien.
Fight the media.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And fight the media just by pushing it aside and taking control.
Don't fight the aliens.
And I believe that the great battle is between reason and the media.
mm-hmm This is the great religious battle.
Is that communism and socialism have largely been uprooted from the world in their tangible political manifestations, but the ideas and the abuse that is at the heart of these ideas remains still shot through the entire society in the form of the media.
Oh, man.
Just kind of where I'm living right now, I've, you know, Finding dates and stuff.
It's just difficult to find a woman where I'm at in kind of my age range, at least a few years ago, that wasn't in some way favorable to Marxism.
Is your current girlfriend a lefty?
No.
Well, she actually has...
She votes Republican.
She is not a fan of Donald Trump, though.
She doesn't like Donald Trump.
Sure.
That's a Republican, right?
Who of the Republicans like Donald Trump?
Donald Trump is exposing the Republicans as cowards.
She understands economic arguments.
I would say that she, for the area that I'm living in, she's pretty conservative.
Kind of where I'm from in the Midwest, I think she'd be looked at as more of a moderate-type conservative.
But, yeah.
I mean, we have a lot of interesting conversation.
What does she think of the new budget that Paul Ryan just squeezed out of his statist sphincter?
You know, I haven't talked to her about that yet.
Does she understand why people might be a tad partial to Donald Trump, given...
What they're getting from the Republicans who have the largest majority in Congress since the Civil War and are still producing budgets that are like Christmas and a birthday present and Amber Rose lap dance to the Democrats?
I... The Donald Trump phenomenon is directly a result of the cowardice of the Republican Party leadership.
People don't want Donald Trump.
They don't want to try someone untested and new without experience.
But they're so desperate after repeated betrayals by the Republican Party leadership that Donald Trump is the shadow cast by the cowardice of the Republican Party leadership.
There's no other way to understand or describe it.
Well said.
Well said.
I certainly have communicated to her, because I come from more of a blue-collar family.
Her family is...
She's lived her entire life in a thoroughly white-collar world.
I mean, prep schools and all that stuff.
But I've certainly communicated to her, look, you spent pretty much all of your life among a very select group of people, all highly intelligent, college-educated, engineers, professionals, that kind of thing.
She's an engineer, actually.
I can completely understand why Donald Trump is very popular right now based off of how the rest of the country perceives how the Republican Party reacts and behaves.
Are there a lot of illegal aliens taking jobs away from her family members?
Not particularly.
I would say not.
No.
But this is a Coulter argument, right?
Which is that if illegal aliens were taking away reporters' jobs or lawyers' jobs or politicians' jobs or white-collar jobs as a whole...
Or bringing in competition for suppressing wages through excess competition, etc.
Is she an affirmative action engineer?
I... I have no way of knowing that.
She's an environmental engineer.
Well, I mean, what she does is she does consulting work to – she works for a consulting firm that helps companies comply with environmental regulations.
I mean, I've got some experience in this area.
That's not really engineering, is it?
There are different types of engineering.
Okay.
Captain Obvious doesn't need to state things like that.
Please, come on.
You know I'm a smart guy.
There are different types of engineering.
Do you know there are different heights of people?
Nick, I just really wanted to have you understand that.
I'm glad you brought this to my attention.
I didn't notice.
Okay, so...
So she went to engineering school for this particular type of field that she got into.
She took a lot of the same classes, the calculus, the physics, the chemistry, a lot of mechanical engineering type classes and things along those lines.
But she also took a lot of environmental classes and things in that area.
So she doesn't build anything.
She helps people comply with excessive regulations, I would assume, at least from our perspective.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I would think that even in a...
Even in a free market...
No, no, don't give me the free market argument.
We're just talking about what she does at the moment, right?
Yeah, what she does at the moment is not untouched by government regulation.
No, it's entirely dependent on government regulations in that she's helping people comply with government regulations.
Okay, and look, I'm not making any moral objections, but it's not really the same as building a bridge, right?
No, no, it's not, but...
It is what she enjoys.
Well, I get that's what she enjoys.
Now, Trump would interfere with her capacity to make money, right?
Because he wants to cut a lot of environmental regulations.
I mean, that's a good point.
I never asked her if that's her feeling on the subject.
I almost get the impression that this is just Me reading her reactions, I think she just hates his personality or his public persona.
But who cares about that?
That's such a girly thing to say.
He's arrogant.
I don't like him.
He's a clown.
I know.
It's got nothing to do with anything.
Can you imagine if I was like, I think Einstein had stupid hair.
I mean, I'd be retarded.
I mean, it's a ridiculous thing to say.
Yeah.
I mean, so yeah.
I mean, who cares what his personality is?
I mean, listen, you've got to tell your girlfriend this.
Donald Trump graduated from the Wharton School at the University of Pennsylvania in 1968.
He had a Bachelor of Science degree in Economics and Anthropology.
Now, back then, back in 1968, you could actually get an IQ score from known SAT scores, because this is before they went through the climate science rejigging to make everything politically correct.
So given the usual requirements to get into a top school like Wharton, It is estimated that Trump has a minimum IQ of 156.
Which is very high.
It is more than, yeah, it's like three standard deviations above the mean, I think.
And for those who don't know what three standard deviations is, it is.
Yeah, 115, 130, 145.
A 156 IQ. And that's the minimum.
That's just to get in.
I assume his IQ is much higher than that, but a 156 IQ is at the 99.990549055 percentile.
So he's smarter than 99.99% of people on the planet Earth.
So he could also join the 999 Society.
So Donald Trump...
Even if we just say, just to get into that school, there's lots of people who got into that school who were not nearly as successful as Donald Trump.
Donald Trump is astonishingly competent at a wide variety of things.
He's a great writer, a great public speaker, a great businessman, great television producer, great television personality, great celebrity.
He's great with the media.
He is very, very competent at a wide variety of things.
And so when people say, well, he's a clown, he's a buffoon, he's an idiot, he's arrogant, and so on, right?
What they're saying is, I'm not smart enough to know how smart Donald Trump is.
And now he's also, he's the most successful politician within a generation, outside of Barack Obama, who doesn't count because he's the affirmative action candidate, right?
And no politician can be a great politician if they're on the left because they get the automatic support of the vast majority of the mainstream media, so it doesn't really count, right?
That's like saying Lance Armstrong is a great bicyclist.
It's like, well...
If you take an entire cowfield's worth of steroids, then yes, you do get some pretty jacked legs.
It's like he looks like he's in these Nazi jofers even when he's not, right?
Yep.
So...
I get this too, like, oh, he's arrogant.
Stefan Molyneux is arrogant.
He's this and that and the other, right?
It's like, hey, can you rebut the arguments?
No, but he's got a spotty head, right?
So...
It's the Dunning-Kruger effect, right?
This guy, he's written the number one best-selling business book of all time.
He's the most successful politician in a generation.
Number one TV show in reality that no one has been able to replicate his success.
Like when Donald Trump stopped doing The Apprentice, do they say, okay, we'll just audition someone else?
No.
One of the most successful developers within a generation.
He's clearly a very intelligent man.
The guy's a stone genius.
Yeah, and from what I've read...
He's willing to take political risks that seasoned politicians of 20 or 30 or 40 years experience are unwilling to take.
And he is outsmarting and outthinking and outmaneuvering politicians who have decades of experience on him.
He is a brilliant, brilliant, brilliant man.
And I dare say, I'm smart enough to appreciate that and the majority of people aren't.
That's just the reality.
It's the Dunning-Kruger effect.
You can go look it up.
I know what the Dunning-Kruger effect is.
And I think that he's clearly very intelligent as well.
He's brilliant.
No, no, no.
He's not very intelligent.
He's extremely intelligent.
He's a stone genius.
Yeah, stone genius.
And, you know, it's...
I mean, if he's just very intelligent, there's lots of very intelligent people around.
Yeah.
I mean, the bare minimum statistics put him in one in a thousand, but it's not like if you run around and you meet a thousand people, you'll meet one Donald Trump every thousand people.
Right.
I mean, there's a culmination of different skill sets that came together in Donald Trump, so...
But...
He's certainly throwing all my political theories out the window because who could have anticipated it, right?
I didn't see this coming.
I was really surprised that he's been doing as well as he has, at least initially.
But then when I started to see where the support was coming from and I got a sense that the attitude of the country, we're fed up.
We're fed up.
And I think a lot of the white-collar family people that I spend my time with, as a function of where I work, they don't really understand this.
For example, I was talking to my girlfriend a couple of weeks ago, and she was asking, has Donald Trump's poll numbers finally begun to fall?
Why would you think they would fall?
I was like, well, he's been saying some really crazy stuff about banning Muslim immigration.
And I'm looking at her, I'm like, are you kidding?
I know this will surprise you, but that's a really popular position in large segments of the country.
Wait, does she think that she would do really well as an engineer under the fucking Taliban?
Does she not want to drive?
I mean, I don't understand.
Do women want to get raped?
I don't understand this, like, yeah, bring a lot of bunch of Muslims in because their record on female rights is so fucking fantastic.
Well, her opinion on this subject is pretty in line with a lot of the other young professionals that I end up having to spend time with.
And I remember a few weeks ago...
But I assume she's at least somewhat for female equality, right?
Yeah.
Does she see an excess of that in Islamic countries?
No, but...
I mean, this is not complicated.
Yeah.
Right?
I mean, this is not...
Like, I get that as an atheist, Sharia law is not my friend.
I mean, this is not complicated.
I get that too.
Like I said, when I started, when I bought a Koran and started researching Islam back in grad school, I... Yeah.
I used to believe a lot of...
I think a big part of it is that a lot of people...
In my generation, a lot of educated people in my generation bought the line about Islam being a religion of peace and the terrorists just being some fringe element that are hijacking the religion.
And they have some kind of motivated ignorance around what the Koran actually says, in large part because if...
Well, no, they don't have to study the Koran.
I mean, you just...
You just have to know of the 50-odd Muslim countries around the world how the women are doing.
You just have to walk around and see if they're in the beekeeper suits.
Whether there are honor killings in the country or whether there's support for clitorectomies or whether there's support for four guys have to validate your rape claim.
This is not like you've got to learn ancient Arabic.
If you're going to have any opinion about Islam, then you need to at least have the basic knowledge of how the What the countries are like?
Well, to make it through the Ivy League school system, especially, to a large extent, you have to become...
It's my impression that you have to become very good at putting walls...
Constructing walls in your mind that prevent you...
No, I get that.
But you're not an Ivy League school system.
You're her boyfriend.
That is true.
Yes, when you're under Stalinist Russia, you've got to go and applaud the Comintern and whatever stupid speeches they're giving, but then when you're home with your wife under the covers, you can speak the truth.
You bring up an excellent point there.
there.
You bring up an excellent point.
So...
I mean, are you an atheist?
Marginally, yes.
And so is she, actually.
Oh, my God.
Has she not read about the Saudi guys who question certain aspects of religion being sentenced to a thousand lashes?
You know, listen...
My wife is Greek, and if there was some country where Greeks were beaten up for being Greek, I'd be like, that's horrible and offensive to me, because I love you, and I don't like the idea of you getting beaten up.
She's an atheist and half-Jewish, too.
An atheist and half-Jewish.
No problem with lots of Muslims who like Sharia law.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know what to say.
I have no idea what to say about that.
Well, look, My guess is...
How pretty is she here?
I would put her as a nine.
I would put her as a nine.
Right.
Right.
So, I can't listen to you speak about her because I'm not talking to you.
I'm talking to your itchy balls, right?
To a certain extent.
I'm aware of that weakness.
Come on, man.
If she was a male, or if she was an elderly Asian female, assuming that's not your thing, come on.
Come on, if she was just some guy who had these opinions?
Don't tell me to some degree, T.
To every degree.
Pay for 90% of my dates!
I heart Muslims!
But it's okay, because I'm pretty and I got some eggs.
Trump is stupid.
Well, there...
You know, I actually listened to this show with her, so she might end up listening to this.
And listen, I'm not saying dumb or anything.
Just be honest.
You are lowering your standards of what would be a decent relationship.
And I'm concerned about your self-censorship, because this is what's going on at the beginning of the dream.
It's your self-censorship.
For fear of disapproval.
For fear of ostracism, right?
Around a woman.
Yeah.
That's true.
Just be honest with her.
This is serious stuff.
This is not abstract.
This is very real.
It is.
Yeah, you're right.
It is...
It is serious.
The difference between a free country and a Sharia law country, at least for me, is the difference between wanting to get out of bed and wanting to jump out of the window.
And, you know, it's.
It is it is really funny because I've thought about this in the past.
It's like, let's say tomorrow the Sharia people come in and they just suddenly take over the entire country tomorrow.
Well, you know, I could certainly lie and say I converted to Islam and, you know, grow out a beard or whatever.
And, I mean, I would have a lot of inconveniences, but I would not be nearly as oppressed as a lot of these feminists who are essentially shilling for the jihadis.
But feminists are not driven by any love of women.
They're only driven by hatred of white males.
And the other thing, too, is let's say that you could handle it.
What about your daughter?
You're right.
Absolutely right.
It's clitorectomy time!
Or my niece.
My niece.
Or your son.
Yeah.
So.
Generations to come.
Yeah.
They need to be...
We need to give forward what we inherited.
We need to pay forward what we inherited.
Exactly.
Exactly.
We borrow freedom from future generations.
It's not ours to spend as we see fit.
It's a legacy we must nurture and keep the class forward.
There are an estimated 800 million radical Muslims in the world.
That is not a tiny minority.
That is not a fringe movement.
That is 20 times the population of Canada, almost.
Fifteen times the population of Canada.
It's almost three times the population of America.
That is not a fringe movement.
It's not a tiny aspect of the religion of peace.
And they're having four kids a family.
Half the immigrants to America during Barack Obama's tenure have been Muslims.
And the self-censorship thing, it's just something I've been so ashamed about in myself because I feel like I need to keep my opinions to myself just to survive.
That's not surviving.
You need people around you.
This is why the dream is so important about social courage.
You will have the courage you need to speak out, but you can't be surrounded by people who punish you for speaking out.
Your capacity to be courageous in the world depends entirely upon the people around you, because we're social animals.
Come on, grow out a beard, be a pretend Muslim, cut off your daughter's clitoris, if that's what it came to you.
No, I couldn't do that.
Come on.
I couldn't do the...
But when do you say no?
Is it going to get easier from here forward?
No, it's not.
You're right.
And is it just words we're talking here?
Violent?
It's just words.
Just speak the truth.
This is what the religion is about.
This is what the political system is about.
Islam is a form of statism that is particularly brutal and medieval, according to what I've read.
And if you've got a girlfriend...
Who is gonna shame and put you down for caring about your freedoms?
I don't care how pretty she is.
That's ugly.
And caring about her freedoms.
Yeah.
You know, early on when we first started going out, I sent her your book, Real-Time Relationships, and we talked about it, you know, because...
I told her, you know, I really like the Stefan Molyneux guy.
He has a great show.
I've listened to a lot of episodes with her.
She seems to have enjoyed a lot of it as well.
And what just struck me is from that book, you talk about how no-go topics in relationships become these landmines that eventually detonate.
And I've been Letting this issue of Donald Trump become kind of a no-go area.
And you're right, it does kind of disturb me, her, I think, irrational dislike of Donald Trump.
Now, she doesn't have to say he's perfect and she wants to vote for him, but the level of The degree to which she just dislikes him just seems out of proportion to any kind of argument that she's been able to put forward to justify her feelings on the subject.
But she's just doing what you're doing.
I can virtually guarantee if she wants to call into the show, welcome to chat with her.
Okay.
But I can virtually guarantee you that all that's happening is that if she professed any kind of preference for Donald Trump, her friends would mock her, her family would mock her.
Like, it's just the same thing.
I bet that's true.
In fact, I'd be...
I'd be...
Yeah, I bet there's...
I suspect that that's probably it.
But I should...
And so if she sees you...
Yeah, if she sees you speaking truth despite disapproval, then...
You can spread that to her?
Yeah.
So...
It's...
Yeah, I almost wish I could put her on.
But...
Anyway, right now I'm visiting family back in Ohio, so...
Not around, but...
Yeah.
I mean, I... I think I'll probably...
Look, Trump's...
I'm going to just tell you, I mean, I always want to be honest with everyone.
I don't have any hidden agendas or anything like that.
So, Nick, I'm just going to be honest with you.
Trump is my R barometer.
Trump is my R barometer.
Everyone who hates him seems to me R selected.
And it's just, I'm not saying it's perfect.
It's just, it's my go-to.
It's not my final place.
It's my go-to.
Yeah.
And a lot of people, like his support is huge, and a lot of people support him who aren't willing to admit it.
A study just came out.
His support is underreported in phone-based polls because people are of social approval concerns.
Yeah.
And the GOP, like right now, Paul Ryan just handed the election to Trump.
Like, they are literally committing political suicide and clearing the way.
They couldn't be more pro-Trump if they tried.
They have just proven to every single voter that there's no hope in the GOP. There's nothing for you in the GOP other than lies and abuse.
They could not be more pro-Trump if he was engineering a coup.
Yeah.
And people come along, we talk about, Mike and I and Stoyan talk about it, like so-and-so, people come along who break people, who break people from their principles.
Mm-hmm.
And people just irrationally, like, and it can be a variety of figures, it doesn't matter, whatever.
I know obviously people, I get it, people think that this has happened with me too, but I'm happy to hear arguments for it, I don't think it has.
But Trump breaks people.
Even people who are libertarian, even people who are conservatives, he breaks people.
They don't know how to take him.
Because he is unprecedented.
He fits into no box.
And the fact is that he is doing something that is considered impossible.
And people should be incredible fans of him for breaking the power of the media and for breaking the power of political correctness.
Trump is the biggest infusion of honesty into American political and social discourse that has ever occurred, to my knowledge.
Yeah.
At least since you could say Daniel Patrick Moynihan with his report on the black families in the 1960s, Charles Murray and Dick Hernstein with the bell curve in the 90s.
But this guy, he's bringing...
And he says this repeatedly.
He says, look, nobody would be talking about this if I didn't bring it up.
Yeah.
I'm one for honesty.
I'm one for open communication.
I'm one for fuck political correctness.
We've got a world to deal with and a world to save.
You know, it's so true what he said because, I mean...
People say, oh, well, Republicans have been talking about illegal immigration, blah-de-blah-de-blah.
But the fact of the matter is, I'd been reading the National Review in this election, and there was an intentional effort to try to downplay the whole illegal immigration issue because the belief was, oh, we don't want to chase away the Hispanic voters.
Well, if I recall, I think I got this from you, Trump is winning with Hispanics.
He's doing well with Hispanics, and the Democrats are constantly saying to the Republicans, you need to court the Hispanic voters, and it's not going to happen.
The statistics on illegal immigrants and welfare consumption are very clear, that the illegal immigrants are going to overwhelmingly vote Democrat no matter what.
No matter what.
And so what the Democrats do is they say to the Republicans, oh, you've got to go court the Hispanic vote, and then the Republicans all scramble over themselves trying to get the Hispanic vote, and they lose.
The reality is that The last presidential candidate on the Republican side, Mitt Romney, he could have got over 70% of the Hispanic vote, he still would have lost.
If he'd gotten just 5% more of the white vote, he would have won.
So this is just a...
Don't go...
Forget it!
I mean, smart Hispanics are pro-Trump because they left...
Right.
They left.
They don't want Mexico in the rear view catching up.
It's like the tentacled monster in the horror film.
It's coming closer.
It's like a kraken in a sombrero.
Drive!
Mexico's catching up!
We're leaving!
It would have been like Ayn Rand writing a pro-communist book.
She left!
She doesn't have anything to do with communism.
Yeah, exactly.
And the smart blacks...
They don't want illegal immigrants coming in.
I mean, any smart black who knows his history loves white people compared to Muslims, because white slavery, way better than Muslim slavery.
Muslim slavery, over 100 million blacks killed.
Killed!
But I'll tell you what- A significant amount of them castrated.
There's not a lot of blacks left in the Muslim countries.
They were slaughtered en masse.
Right.
And so smart blacks are like, yeah, we'll take the whites over the Muslims, thank you very much.
We'll take the bad dancers over the guys with the big pinking shears eyeing our genitals.
So the smart blacks and the smart Hispanics, they're going to go pro-Trump, and pro-Trump is polling higher with blacks and Hispanics, better than any Republican in a long time.
People respect confidence.
They don't have any fucking clue what people are talking about, but they respect confidence.
It's like you said, and it's like you said, people enter a room, look at who appears to be the most confident, And who's going to win inside with them.
So, you're right.
I need to...
And he's...
Trump is revealing the degree to which elites hate Americans.
Mm-hmm.
Trump is...
Like, the Americans are like, this guy is really important to us.
He's saying something really important.
Right.
And the elites are all calling him an asshole and an idiot and a clown.
Mm-hmm.
Like...
You know, have you ever met a totally dedicated Apple fanboy?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, yeah, you live on the left coast, right?
These people are addicted to their white apples, right?
And, you know, just go up to these guys and say that, yeah, Steve Jobs was a hack and a plagiarist and a thief, right?
I mean, what are they going to do?
They're going to take him.
They're going to take him personally because they're emotionally invested in his excellence.
And are you going to change their minds?
No.
No.
The guy has at least 156 IQ, and people who don't even have half his IQ are calling him an idiot.
And how many people are sticking up for people like Ann Coulter or Phyllis Schlafly or who stuck up for Margaret Thatcher and so on?
Thank you.
Not many.
No, this is...
Or Jason Richwine, or even...
The aforementioned Charles Murray when he was going through his challenges and so on.
So, if she thinks Trump is a buffoon and a clown and a fool, then she thinks that a significant majority of Americans are buffoons and clowns and fools.
To be fair, okay, so I've challenged her on that.
And she says, oh no, I don't think that he's stupid and I don't think that he's really like that in private.
Because he couldn't have possibly gotten to the position that he's in if he were actually not brilliant.
If he weren't brilliant.
I don't know.
Okay, so he's brilliant.
It is probably.
They don't know their own limitations.
I'm prone to that.
I have to watch that in myself too and sometimes I make it and sometimes I don't.
I have to be careful about that because that's why I have a lot of experts on this show rather than reading their books and pretending I'm an expert, right?
Because they're the experts.
I hand them the talking stick and I'm just there to get information out of them and deliver it to the audience, right?
And I appreciate that.
That's why I love your show.
But what does she have to say that's not just Valley Girl adjective?
Like, what does she have to say that is actually a tangible argument against his position?
Well, she says that he can't possibly hope to govern the country if he doesn't get along with Congress.
He can't possibly say.
So, is she saying that Barack Obama can't possibly run the country at the moment because the Republicans have a majority?
Well, she doesn't like Barack Obama, but...
No, no, no, but she's saying that it's impossible for him to govern the nation.
At least effectively, but...
Now, does she know that Congress has an approval rating that is somewhere between 6% and 9%?
I doubt that, but...
Right, but she claims to be political and she's giving opinions about politics.
She doesn't claim to be terribly political.
She's giving opinions about politics.
She is giving opinions about politics, that is true.
Okay, so if she's giving opinions about politics, there's three possibilities.
She either knows her stuff, she doesn't know her stuff and knows that she doesn't know her stuff, or she doesn't know her stuff and doesn't even know that she doesn't know her stuff.
So the idea that you have to get along with Congress to win, she does not understand that Trump is moving beyond that.
Because he wants to reshape Congress.
He wants to create such a movement that he gets different kind of politicians elected.
You know, you don't get to be worth $10 billion by setting your sights towards the middle.
I would guess that he's going to be such a political force that he's going to reshape Congress in his wake.
Yeah, well, that kind of gets down to where I have some apprehensions about Donald Trump is that I see the potential for an American version of Julius Caesar here, but...
What?
I mean, Julius Caesar overthrew the Roman Republic and established a military...
Julius Caesar was a general!
He was a real estate developer!
That is a good point.
That is an excellent point.
That's kind of an important point.
Yeah, that's...
We're going to have a military dictatorship where every house is going to get gold pillars in front of it and a slot machine.
Fair enough.
Come on!
How can you compare this?
You're right.
You're right.
It's a bad analogy.
It's a bad analogy.
And I don't think it's even coming from you.
Where's that coming from?
Because what you say matters, and if you're saying this kind of stuff to people, it matters.
You're right.
Where is it coming from?
The Julius Caesar was a murderer and a conqueror and an imperialist.
This guy builds casinos and hotels that make people happy.
I don't think Julius Caesar put a lot of tiny fucking chocolates on people's pillows.
Well, that is true.
His entire life is about, voluntarily, in general, relative to Caesar, his entire life, Donald Trump's entire life, is how can I please people without forcing them?
And somehow this makes him into a late Roman Empire murderous general fascist?
I see some potential danger there, but...
But then tell me what it is!
And compare it to what?
You can't just have vague apprehension.
That's not philosophy.
No, you're absolutely right.
I guess compared to a Ron Paul...
But Ron Paul isn't running.
Who was never going to get elected.
You're right.
And Ron Paul is never going to get, I've never seen him Paul above 2 or 3%.
Right.
So it doesn't matter.
It's like saying, well, I think that a unicorn would be a great president.
Well, it's not going to happen.
I guess, I don't know.
Where this is coming from, no.
Let me ask you this.
If Steve Jobs was going to become president, would you be concerned that he would turn into a Caesar-style fascist?
Yeah, probably not.
Probably not.
Why not?
Guy was rich.
Corporate empire.
Successful.
Brilliant.
Successful in a variety of fields as well.
It wasn't just software.
Movies and stuff, right?
Hardware.
And he, you know, the Steve Jobs stories about how he managed are horrible compared to Trump.
Yeah, he was quite the dictator, you're right.
No, dictator is not.
Dictator is a political...
You're right.
Was he a bully in the free market to some degree?
Yeah, I mean, he was a tough...
Trump's employees, you simply cannot run an organization of Trump's size without people having loyalty and affection for you.
You can't do it.
Everything that I've read from Trump's employees, the guy said that, you know, he's kind, he...
Right.
Why would you not be concerned about Steve Jobs, who had a significantly more authoritarian personality structure than Donald Trump?
Why would you not be concerned about Steve Jobs, but you are concerned about Donald Trump?
Because I wouldn't be under social pressure to find some criticism of Donald Trump.
I mean, of Steve Jobs.
Excuse me.
Right.
He's a good...
Because you wouldn't get in trouble for saying Steve Jobs the president.
Right.
But people will look at you like you're some uneducated redneck hick for saying that Donald Trump is a brilliant guy who is the most able politician that this generation has ever seen.
Fucking months into his campaign, he is outmaneuvering and outsmarting not only the media, but political rivals who have decades of experience.
Yeah.
Like, holy shit.
I mean, Jesus Christ.
Yeah.
I mean, that's unbelievable.
It is.
It is.
Like, holy shit, have you ever seen anything?
Like, some guy wanders into this field and he's, like, number one at everything he does.
He's number one on TV, he's number one in business books, he's number one in real estate development, and now he's number one in politics.
Like, holy shit!
The man is a titanic force of nature.
I mean...
Whether you agree or just, like, holy shit!
And he's forcing important conversations, not forcing, he's encouraging or revealing important conversations that Americans have been waiting since 1965 to have.
Mm-hmm.
Honest conversation about race?
You got it.
Honest conversation about immigration?
You got it.
America?
Mm-hmm.
Yep.
The man is, he's like a, I'm telling you, I mean, I know these words are going to come back to haunt me.
I'm telling you, like, he's a force of nature.
He is astonishingly competent at everything that he does.
And whether or not he gains the presidency is another story.
But if he did gain the presidency, it would not be the same America when he left as when he arrived.
That's what people are hoping for.
They know, they know, and you know, and I know, and your girlfriend knows, that any continuation of the status quo is going to end in fucking disaster.
Like, beyond horrible disaster.
Like, fucking third world, end of civilization disaster.
That is what happens.
You're right.
If nothing changes, and it's not going to change from the Democrats, and it's not going to change from the Republicans, and they've rigged the game so there's no third party.
So if you want something to change, it's Trump.
It is.
You're absolutely right.
And it's like...
That's why...
The airplane is flying into the side of the mountain.
I couldn't quite...
I could never quite bring myself to denounce him outright.
I could only...
Okay, well, stop that.
If you've got good arguments, make them.
But this vague apprehension shit is bullshit.
You're right.
You're absolutely...
It is bullshit, and I need to stop it.
You need to stop it.
And you need to start challenging people.
It's Give me your good arguments.
Don't just create this vague negative apprehension.
That's bigoted.
It is.
Imagine if I was doing that about some black candidate just because he was black.
Well, you know.
Yeah.
I don't know if he's going to turn the White House into like, I don't know, some weird pimping thing because that's what black...
People would say, you're bigoted.
People just have this negative view of this guy.
Why?
Yeah.
You're a bigot.
You're a...
I don't know.
Like, you're a...
It's a horrible thing to do to a human being, to just create vague, negative things about him.
Give some substantial arguments.
Or push back on the people who are just creating this negative stink cloud around the guy.
That's bullshit.
It is bullshit.
I need...
You're right.
You're absolutely right.
He's bringing up facts about immigration!
He's a Nazi!
I've been...
No.
If he's bringing up facts, he's actually being honest.
Now, if honest is a Nazi, I don't even know what to say to people like that.
You know, you're right.
I've definitely been a moral coward to some extent in this space.
To a large extent.
Girlfriend.
Well, girlfriend, colleagues.
Yeah, look, you don't have to go, you know, trumpeting, blah, blah, blah, right?
But at least say, okay, well, like, push back, right?
I mean, I've had those uncomfortable conversations with people I've met, people I chat with, and they're like, oh, Donald Trump, can you believe it?
Tell me more.
Well, it's just so hard.
Well, okay, noises, you're making noises.
I don't really understand the argument.
What's the problem here?
Well, he hates immigrants.
No, actually, I don't think you can be into real estate in America and hate immigrants.
A lot of immigrants work for the guy.
Would you like to try again?
What I've been doing is...
I mean, I'd push back, but then I'd offer the Julius Caesar reference as kind of a fig leaf.
And so I need to stop doing that.
Right.
Yeah.
I mean, don't frappe your balls and hand it to someone as a...
Milkshake, right?
I mean, just be honest.
I mean, I don't know what the hell the guy is going to do as president.
I mean, the best prediction of future behavior is relevant past behavior.
And given how competent he is in other fields, he is vastly likely to be the most competent president that America has seen in generations.
I mean, that's just because he's so competent at everything.
Now, what competency in American politics looks like, I don't know.
He wants to go bomb the shit out of the Middle East?
I think that's horrible.
And it's exactly the wrong thing to do, in my humble opinion, because the blowback is going to be ridiculous, and it's going to escalate.
Just get the fuck out of the Middle East and go home, for Christ's sakes.
You know, he wants to stop bringing the Middle East over to America?
Great.
Stop bringing America over to the Middle East?
Let's call it a draw.
But unfortunately...
That's kind of the price you have to pay in Republican politics.
You have to be a hawk.
That's the deal.
Now, he was against the war in Iraq.
And that, of course, is to his everlasting credit.
I don't know.
I don't think he's put out a formal policy statement on foreign policy or anything like that.
I don't know.
But in terms of...
His capacity to undo the hypnosis, the car-like hypnosis of the mainstream media.
His capacity to directly talk to the American public.
His capacity to do two-and-a-half-hour speeches with no teleprompter.
Holy fuck!
And have tens of thousands of people come.
Holy shit!
And people say, oh, well, you see, he's friendly towards Putin.
It's like, have you seen what goes on in Saudi Arabia?
It's an official ally of the United States.
17 of the 19 hijackers came from Saudi Arabia.
Jesus Christ.
Well, Putin has killed journalists, really.
I've not seen any court proof that.
There's been some allegations, but I think pretty much we're going to go with innocent until proven guilty.
On that.
I don't know.
America's all sensitive now about the moral qualities of allies when Putin praises Trump.
The fact that America has been allied with some of the most savage and horrifying dictators.
It's ridiculous.
Like Saddam Hussein, like Bin Laden, like whoever's in charge, whoever got top bedsheet of the pyramid in Saudi Arabia, like Noriega.
Like, oh, God, I mean, just go on and on, right?
I mean, the number of horrifying dictatorships that America has directly subsidized funds, sold weapons to and supported.
But now Putin said something nice.
And now we've got these crazy moral standards about it.
I don't know.
Putin is pretty gay from what I've read.
I love the rock in the stupid pond.
Just send some ripples up.
Break the hypnosis.
Break the hypnosis.
People are literally hypnotized in fear and conformity at the moment.
Something has to change.
My hope, of course, was through this philosophy show, peaceful parenting, bring libertarians over, bring the anarchists over, bring the voluntarists over, get into peaceful parenting, get a big movement going that way.
How's that going?
Well, individually, it's working fantastically in that tens of thousands of people are treating their children way better as a result of the show and as a result of people like your support.
Nick, thank you again.
But it's not happening fast enough!
Right.
I don't mind supporting you.
You do great work.
Well, thanks.
Alright, listen, man, I've got to close it off.
Yeah, it's been a while.
Thank you for having me on the show again.
I think what I'm going to do is I'm probably going to listen to this with my girlfriend and see what she has to say about it.
Can I have her call in?
Yeah.
She can set me straight if I've gone astray, and of course I'm talking about a third party, so she's welcome to call in and correct me on her.
So, I'll ask her if she'd like to do that, okay?
All right.
Thanks, man.
Have a great, great night.
And be honest with the people around you.
And now is the time.
You know, Christmas sometimes is considered to be a time of peace.
I think now is the time for honesty rather than peace.
The hour is getting late.
And we need to speak before we can't speak anymore.
So thanks, everyone.
Have yourselves a great, great week.
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