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July 11, 2011 - Freedomain Radio - Stefan Molyneux
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1949 Stefan Molyneux of Freedomain Radio on the Alex Jones Radio Show, 11 July 2011

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Now, Obama has announced, and we're doing the Google search term today, Obama dictatorship.
Obama has announced he's doing carbon taxes without Congress passing it.
He's doing internet kill switch, letting the Pentagon take over the internet without Congress passing cybersecurity.
He is launching the Libya war and expanding it, getting ground forces ready.
Even France said in the war, and the U.S. is in the news, saying no, it will continue without Congress's approval.
Just all completely unconstitutional, totally illegal.
The Pentagon even told Obama.
He set up the governor councils, the rural councils under FEMA, with the Department of Defense and CIA and Homeland Security and TSA to operate in rural areas spying on citizens, all announced.
I mean, they're actually saying this.
Who even needs a Congress?
I mean, Obama is—who even needs to go to church?
You can just worship Obama.
Like the dear leader Kim Jong-il and now his son, that'll be three generations.
Why not Obama's daughters?
Can we put crowns on them?
But don't worry. This isn't a dictator of the personality.
It's a dictator of the corporate— Communitarian collectivist who collectivize our wealth through government control, who farm us, as Stefan Molyneux talks about.
Really, that goes back to Animal Farm, Eric Blair, aka George Arwell.
And that's what it is. That's what the most ancient societies were about.
Who was the smartest, the best hunter?
That's who the small tribes would follow.
Then the priest class was developed, and they learned not how to hunt good or build, but how to manipulate So it's a subgroup of humans operating in a predator class way against the rest of us and building a false environment for us from cradle to grave so that we will go along and perpetuate the parasitic oligarchy.
Now, our article...
Obama's establishing an executive dictatorship is one of the most important in a long time.
You notice more and more. I used to say very important once a year.
Now I say it every day because stuff gets crazier and crazier.
But you read this article I put together with Paul Joseph Watson with the two videos I shot last night up here on the subject.
And it goes over the whole thing.
Gun control by executive order, he's now announcing.
Oh, yes. Victim disarmament.
War in Libya without congressional approval.
Debt ceiling. He says he'll use civil war powers on the Congress.
Like they're southern states.
That's AP. You can't make this up.
I was pinching myself last night when I saw this.
Carbon taxes. Obamacare.
Obama's rural councils. Obama Council of State Governors.
Internet kill switch. That's just some of the examples.
We're doing the search term Obama dictatorship.
Put it in those two words over and over again.
And then secondary search. Obama establishing to lead them back to this article.
We always succeeded in the past.
Now it looks like they've got a big list of popular terms that are blocked.
So we'll see if this works.
If not, I'll do an archaic term tomorrow that's very rare, and it'll be number one.
This is one of our last tests here to see since they changed the algorithm, so help us out with that.
Now, going for the rest of the hour, and we'll take some of your calls the last 20 minutes at 800-259-9231, 800-259-9231.
Stefan Molyneux is a blogger, essayist, author, and host of Free Domain Radio.
Series of podcasts.
He's written numerous articles and essays which have been published at Libertarian, LewRockwell.com, AnnieWar.com, and he's done over 1,800 podcasts, self-published, and he's coming out with a bunch of books as well.
So he joins us today.
As promised, I wanted to get him back.
Time flies via video Skype, and there's so much to discuss, but in a few minutes I want to play the...
WNBC, no, the NBC piece with Geithner over the weekend where he came out, in fact, I'm looking for the exact quote here, Geithner on...
Meet the press and said for a lot of people it's going to feel very hard.
Harder than anything they've experienced in their lifetime now for a long time to come.
So he says this is the worst thing in our lifetime.
This recovery is so good, Stefan.
And if you say this engineered global depression is not a wonderful recovery, you are a conspiracy theorist, Stefan.
That's very sad but true, Alex.
It's good to have an extremist on with us.
What do you make of the fireworks going on in the economy, the police state, all the bizarre behavior?
I mean, the ruling class is going insane.
Well, you know what it is, Alex?
I mean, my training is in history, and it's like a grim rewind to the last days of the Roman Empire.
You could slap togas on these guys, and it would be pretty much a frame-to-frame repeat where you get the imperial presidency, you get the continual withering of Congress into a sclerotic kind of money-grubbing, taxpayer-raping kind of institution.
So this growth of charisma, this growth of dictatorial powers, this stepping over any last remnants and shreds of constitutional illegality has all been played out before.
And I hope, I hope, I hope we learn enough from this phase in history that it's just not going to happen again.
We can hope for the best that way.
Well, that's what's horrifying.
Anybody that's ever cracked a history book knows that excesses by corrupt elites using government power are legion and that liberty is the rare jewel that must be defended, as Thomas Jefferson said.
I don't think the general public realizes that governments always go to complete excess and turn our wonderful lives into living nightmares.
Well, and another thing that's interesting, what you can see going on in Europe is a very fascinating thing, which we talked about the last time I was on, that when government is at some point restrained or controlled or minimized, all it does is it opens up the free market.
The free market generates wealth.
The government then uses that excess wealth as collateral to borrow more.
And so you can see the Irish tiger of the 90s has now become one of the biggest debt-ridden countries in the EU. Portugal has had a 10-year, very successful end of the war on drugs.
You think that would give them lots of extra money?
No, they're also going down.
Moody has just downgraded Portugal's banks to junk status because we have a war going on between the US dollar and the euro about which one is going to...
It's like watching King Kong and Tyrannosaurus Rex go at each other with chainsaws.
It's which one is going to fall first so there's a few extra dollars left over for the one that remains.
It is like Mothra and Godzilla. That's right.
Except the special effects are even cheesier and the subtitles are even worse.
Oh wait a minute, wait a minute.
You know that Bin Laden thing was real.
There's no lies here.
And you can see, of course, what happened when they're shipping drugs to, sorry, they're shipping weapons to Mexican drug lords.
Yet again, we have another example of the people who are supposed to protect us arming our enemies, just as they did with the Mujahideen in the 80s, and just as they did by giving lots of money and aid to the Soviets during the communist era.
Saddam, look, they're using al-Qaeda against Gaddafi right now.
Right. Qaddafi. And one of the reasons Qaddafi was invaded was he's sitting on one of the largest gold stores in the world, unlike the rest of the countries, which seem to be conveniently ignored.
If you look at the economic drivers of this current economic collapse, one of the reasons, of course, is that the baby boomers are about to retire.
So they have to kill the system because there's simply no money there.
So they have to create this emergency in order to get people to accept reduced circumstances.
They have to create these wars to create these artificial emergencies and unity.
They have to fight against other currencies that are gaining ascendancy in the general fear that the euro or some other currency is going to become the de facto trading currency for oil.
If you just peel away the surface layers it's all about control of fiat currency, control of the population and of course it's our hope as thinkers and communicators that we can give people this red pill and have them wake up no matter how startling it might be.
Let me ask your opinion or your educated view on this.
I didn't know this, but it's been linked on Drudge all day.
DrudgeReport.com, down in the middle of the article, they had the latest video of the six-year-old boy being groped once and crying, so they double-grop him to really teach him as he's crying.
I think my children would cry if this was happening.
I mean, they don't like strangers.
I mean, that's a normal instinct.
But TSA lied to lawmakers still conducting pat-downs.
Why did they say in November and again in April that they're not doing pat-downs?
And they said they'd stop doing them.
Then they told Congress a month ago that it had stopped and it's intensifying.
I've witnessed it flying recently.
What is this tactic of lying?
Is it just to set the precedent that they're going to lie in plain view and they don't care?
Yeah, I mean, there's that old joke, how do you know a politician is lying?
There's a microphone around. And that is the way it goes.
These people are sociopaths.
They're pathological. There was a study that was done recently, and it's sort of not funny, though it is funny in a way, which said that serial killers have similar characteristics psychologically to politicians, with the exception that we don't give serial killers aircraft carriers, nuclear weapons, and endless prison systems to incarcerate their victims.
Well, that's actually what's taught, as you know, in high-level criminology.
That actually, they call them what, high-functioning psychopaths tend to actually get into government.
They don't start killing and stuff until they get that immunity and that power, and that's why the Stalins, the Hitlers, the Mao's are the norm in history, and Thomas Jefferson is the exception.
Right, and so one of the characteristics of sociopaths is that they're consistently lying.
The second is that they look for whatever weak spot you have and will exploit it for their own gain.
And one of the things that's very true of the West, and I think this is very true of Americans, Americans are very, very generous people.
They give a lot to charity.
They really want to help the poor. And so the sociopaths in power say, ah, you care about the poor, do you?
Well, we'll take care of the poor.
And then they just raise the taxes. Oh, you care about the sick?
Oh, let's raise the taxes so we can take care of the sick.
Oh, you want the poor children to be educated?
Let's raise the taxes so we can educate the poor.
And people fall for this without realizing that these things are just a pre-tax for increased theft.
And we'll give them shots so they don't get sick.
Filled with cancer viruses!
Ha ha ha ha! Yeah, I miss the politicians that had those little pencil-thin mustaches that they could roll.
You know, the blah, the sort of evil laughs.
But there was a sort of funny joke in America, sorry, in England recently, one of the dictators from the Middle East came to visit England and they wanted to protest, the marching band wanted to protest.
So they played the emperor's theme from "Star Wars," you know, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam.
I really feel that that should be played every time a politician walks into the room.
They don't have to wear the black helmet and sound like they've got asthma, but I think that would really help clarify the position of power they have over us.
And they should have stormtroopers on either side, just so the kids understand what sort of society they live in.
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Several transmissions were sent to this ship.
I want to know what happened to the plans they sent you.
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Take her away! I need to get into this gold bikini now, right?
Impressive. Most impressive.
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Going back to Stefan Molyneux, that's enough from Sith Lord Darth Vader.
Mr. Molyneux, this is a short segment.
There's so much going on in the world.
What is front and center on your radar screen?
Well, I'm really, really quite interested in the way that the American credit rating agencies have downgraded Portugal's debt and seem to be on the verge of downgrading Italy's debt.
Greece was fairly small. It's a very small part of the EU, but depending on how you measure it, Italy is between the third and fourth biggest One on the size economy in the EU. So I think that they're really doing an attack on the euro at the moment to cover up the fact that the dollar is taking such a big dive relative to the euro.
So, for instance, the rating agencies in America have said that they're going to look at any voluntary rollovers of the Greek debt, you know, just sort of keep buying more and more, as a kind of default.
Yet, the fact that the Fed has bought a staggering amount of American debt is not considered a default.
America has already defaulted on its debt because it's buying its own treasuries.
Stay on the leader.
I'm sorry, go ahead. I think he's playing a video game while I'm talking, but that's okay.
I can talk to the listeners. But no, I think that's really, really quite fascinating to see these two giant beasts dying currencies hacking away at each other rather than trying to deal with their own problems.
Mathematically, the euro can't survive.
Mathematically, the dollar can't survive.
I don't know that there's much will to try and centralize these things into a larger central bank.
I think that that's all kind of exhausted.
So it is going to be quite fascinating.
I think if we see a collapse of the euro, we might see a breakup of Europe into its more individual currencies, which might stave things off for a little longer.
You know, I think people just really recognize deep down that the system as a whole...
I mean, I think it's already dead.
I think it's just doing that after-death body twisting that goes on.
I agree, and they sell us a self-fulfilling prophecy.
If you look at the Rockefeller Foundation over 100 years ago, now 111 years ago, they would fund the National Council of Churches to actually teach the end of the world's coming, Don't get involved.
You know, do whatever you're told.
And now they have 2012 for the non-Christians to think the world's ending so that people just have a foregone conclusion.
No, it's the opposite.
These elites are pathetic.
They can be defeated. They can be defeated.
And to me, the fundamental argument is just waking people up to the violence in the system, to the fact that fiat currency is based on violence.
It is based upon a legal and moral attack upon any competing currencies.
Gold-based currencies are robbed and threatened throughout the world.
Taxes is based on threats and violence.
The war on drugs is based on threats and violence.
The education of miseducation, indoctrination of the young is based on...
Fear of this aircraft carrier.
But that's impossible. Who will maintain control without the bureaucracy?
Yeah, there's this weird thing that because the government has a monopoly on something like educating the young, if you take the government out of the equation, somehow the young won't be educated.
It's like saying if you take a huge rock out of the middle of a river, that the river is still going to go around the hole rather than fill it in.
And that's this weird thing. Because the government does it, if the government doesn't do it, it won't be done.
Like, there's no history where it was ever done before without the government.
Roads were built without the government.
The literacy rate prior to government education was far higher than it is now.
Now we have this ridiculous spectacle of teachers cheating on tests in order to get bonuses.
I mean, it's just sad and pitiful.
The same thing which children get thrown out of school for Teachers are getting rewarded for, and this is happening so far throughout the system.
There's nothing in the system that is working anymore, except propaganda, which is always needed when a system doesn't work.
And I just hope that the evidence is accumulating to the point where even the worst addict to state violence is waking up and saying, maybe this stuff doesn't work anymore.
That's my particular hope.
But of course, addicts are the last ones sometimes to see the basic truth.
Well, that's the other big issue is they keep drugs illegal so the big mega banks can make bigger profits.
When something's a black market, it's more expensive.
And I've even heard talk show hosts that are pro-drug war now coming out and admitting the government deals the drugs and the drug war is a fraud.
And so what do you think the system's going to do to try to stop this revolution of awakening?
Well, what they're going to do is they're going to, as they're already doing, they're going to arm more of the drug lords, right?
So lots of government weapons are going to find their way into the drug lord's hands.
They're going to fund the crackdowns in Mexico and other places.
And so this is to fight the example in Portugal, where 10 years of legalized drug use, or at least decriminalized drug use, has resulted in far lower drug addictions, far better treatment for the sick people who are addicted to drugs.
And lower crime. Yeah, they're gonna lower crime, they're gonna arm the enemies, and so the enemies then create all of this violence, and then they say, aha!
You see? You need us!
It's like the doctor who infects you with a poison and then says, I'm the only one with a cure, and that's all that they do over and over again.
Well, Stefan Molyneux is our guest.
He's an extremist. He believes two plus two equals four.
I've never had such conspiracy theorizing on my show.
Your call straight ahead. Today is gonna be the day that they're gonna throw it back to you.
By now you should have somehow realized what you gotta do.
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Going back to Stefan Molyneux, Stefan, tell us about your website and how people can visit that.
Sure. It's at freedomainradio.com.
It is the biggest philosophy conversation in history!
But of course, that's mostly just because of the new technology.
And yeah, we've had like almost 35 million downloads and video views and 10,000 board members.
And so it's a really thriving community of people very interested in philosophy.
So I hope to check it out. I got tons of free books up there.
I just released one called The Handbook of Human Ownership.
A manual for new tax farmers, which is a tongue-in-cheek, humorous instruction manual for new politicians on how to rule the herd.
Briefly break down the tax farmer system for folks that aren't familiar with that.
Sure. Well, you know, you look at a map of the world and you see these geographical regions in different colors with labels.
And a lot of people think that it's about culture and a lot of people think it's about nationalism.
But the reality is that all of the countries that you see on a map are actually just Tax farms.
And they are very modern tax farms where we are no longer assigned to our occupations like serfs.
We're no longer owned directly like slaves.
We're no longer eaten directly like the old-style cannibalism of the Stone Age.
Now we're allowed to choose our own occupations, which makes us more productive, which means that we can generate more money and wealth for our owners.
The problem is, of course, that democracy can't work without massive bribery of the population.
It's as true now as it was in ancient Greece, as it was in ancient Rome.
That creates the collectivism and then destroys the human species, turning us into lazy, servile blobs.
Well, I hope that we're not going to get to a destruction of the human species.
It certainly does destroy the economy in the long run.
You can't have a democracy without debt because you have to bribe people, right?
So the baby boomers who got three to four dollars in services for every dollar they paid in taxes thought it was the best system ever.
Look at this. We've got all this free healthcare.
We've got all this free stuff. It's wonderful and it's great.
The problem is, of course, as Margaret Thatcher famously said, the problem with socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money to burn.
Well, it's two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
What happens after the wolves have eaten all the sheep and eaten the sheep herder?
That's my issue for you.
I see at the Bilderberg Group and things, a lot of big libertarians like the head of the PayPal mafia and others, these multi-billionaires, they're pushing libertarian philosophy But in the endgame, now that through crony non-free market systems, they've consolidated control, now they're pushing austerity and cutting off resources.
Now the people are dependent as libertarian or anarchic capitalism.
But then they're always scapegoating the...
The unfeasibility of the ongoing welfare state, ignoring the banker bailouts, ignoring the fiat money system that was designed to be impossible to pay back and convert us from the greatest creditor nation to the greatest debtor nation, the same for every other nation.
So, I mean, certainly you've seen in the whole globalist hive board, they're now putting some libertarian camouflage on top their backs a bit.
Well, I'll tell you, Alex, you know the system is about to crash when libertarians are invited to run the show.
Because that way, when the whole thing goes up in flames, everybody will remember, hey, who was in charge when it all crashed?
Those crazy libertarians!
And they'll just discredit freedom for another thousand years.
So my strong, strong advice is, hey, you know, support Ron Paul if you think he's a good educator, and I think he is.
But for heaven's sake, libertarians and anarchists do not go near anywhere this titanic because it already hit the iceberg and you do not want to be anywhere near political power when the giant sucking sound of imploding fiat currencies and collapsing economies is heard around the world.
You want to make sure that all of the idiots who made this mess are in charge Sure, I mean, even if you would be against tariffs, it's not – when another country has high tariffs on you, you raise yours.
That actually creates a level playing field.
So tariffs when the other has tariffs is actually free market at a limited level.
Things are sophisticated.
They're not just black and white.
There's a lot of gray there.
But I am for no tariffs if the other people were actually doing it.
The problem is they are tax farms basically trying to cheat the other tax farms.
But Ron Paul has said now is the time for him to try to get in because it is imploding – He can go in and point out what they did.
If not, they may use the implosion to sell more collectivism.
But I do see your point about they could then scapegoat us like they did smooth haulings.
The economy was already in a depression.
They got in, put tariffs in.
They then blamed the depression on that when it had been the collectivist engineering the whole situation from the beginning.
Let's play a clip from...
NBC's Meet the Press with Tiny Tim Geithner, the guy who told the Chinese they're not devaluing the dollar.
And they laughed at him a few years ago because they were informed, unlike certain people here in the United States.
And let's play this clip where he says the worst stuff of our lifetime is coming.
It's going to be painful and it's going to last for a long time.
Here it is. Treasury, Tim Geithner, Mr.
Secretary. Welcome back. Nice to see you, David.
What happened? Well, this is hard.
You know, it's politically very hard.
But this is a grave moment for the country.
We need to do something very big, very substantial, to bring our long-term deficits down over time.
We have to do that in a way that's good for the economy, so we give more support to this economy still healing from the Great Recession.
It's going to require both sides to compromise.
Presidents bring the leaders together again at the White House this evening to try to figure out how to move forward.
So what does he actually say, though?
Because you're hearing two different things.
You hear Boehner saying, look, they're demanding tax increases.
We're not going to do that. They've also said that you were backpedaling a bit on whether you'd cut entitlement programs like Medicare or Social Security.
What's the fact? That latter thing is not true.
The president is standing tough. He is willing to do very, very difficult political things.
Like what? Like getting very substantial savings from the budget, across the budget, defense, the rest of government, even Medicare, Medicare for the long term.
There are things we can do responsibly to save money in those programs, and we have to do that if we're going to bring these deficits under control.
But to do that, we have to have some shared sacrifice.
We have to find a way to avoid shifting more of the burden of the tax system to the middle class.
It's going to take a balanced approach.
Both sides are going to have to make some compromises.
And you know, just one thing to Republicans, we know this is very hard to do, but they should not walk away now from trying to do something good for the country.
This is very important for the country now, for the economy to be growing long term, restore confidence that Washington can actually do things that solve some problems.
You need both sides to come together now.
What was the president's reaction to Boehner's move?
Well, you know, the president wants to do the right thing for the country, and he recognizes to do the right thing, you have to try and do the biggest, most substantial deal possible, the deal that's going to be best for the economy.
And, you know, his view is... Ah, hit pause.
I don't know how you can listen to that.
I just threw up like three times in my mouth a little bit.
I know that's a long interview. Just see if you can, by the end of the show, find the place where he says, quote...
Meet the press. That is a very tough economy, he says, that a lot of people, it's going to feel very, very hard, harder than anything they've experienced in their lifetime now for a long time to come.
But I mean, just that first part, I'm glad that we didn't have it queued up to where I wanted because that was even worse.
They're now calling it the Great Recession.
They're admitting it never ended.
So now it's not Great Depression, it's Great Recession.
We're three years in to having three quarters in a row of non-growth, even with Cook numbers.
I mean, and here they are telling us massive taxes on poor and middle class to pay the bankers who've written the tax laws where they're almost completely exempt, that that's going to fix things.
I mean, these guys are something else, Stefan.
And who is taking a shred of responsibility for the complete failure of TARP and the stimulus package and all of the money that was blown and burnt and sent into the stratosphere to supposedly deal with this crisis?
Now, it's like nothing ever happened.
That they had this huge plan that was supposed to rescue us from the recession.
Now they're admitting there was a recession anyway, but we're much more in debt than we used to be.
And now they want to rape us again and rape us again.
It's the same thing in Greece over and over again.
And it's just never going to end.
And you know what the dangerous thing is?
And don't you just hate being right all the time?
Oh, I wish I would be wrong.
I agree. Because you make these terrible predictions and you just want to be wrong.
Because they're starting to use the word sacrifice.
I predicted this about a year ago, that there was going to be no recovery.
And when there was no recovery and things began to get worse and worse and the debt ceiling was going to be bumped up against and the entitlement programs were under threat, what they were going to start talking about, Alex, was the need for shared sacrifice.
Yeah, and now they're going to do it. It's just a bill where we voluntarily have money taken out of our check and the inside baseball is once they totally default, they're just going to use that.
Here's an example. My dad was going to sign up to pay online taxes to the private fellow reserve to the IRS. I'm sorry,
go ahead. No, they're completely out of control.
And now they're gonna start talking about sacrifice.
And sacrifice is political ease for bend over, grab your shoelaces, this ain't gonna be pretty.
Because it means that- Well, take Lord Rothschild.
He's got giant $300 million yachts, jet airplanes.
He rented a whole giant island for his party for 300 people.
World leaders went there.
Taxpayer paid for security.
They would come across the water, grab cameras from mainstream media, erase them.
And he literally is then giving speeches about Not being able to take a hot bath or heating in the winter because it's hurting the earth with carbon is such a sick joke.
Yeah, I really, I have a tough time understanding how people take this at all seriously.
But now this talk of sacrifice, when the ruling classes are backed into a corner and all of their disastrous uses of violence and deception have caught up with them, then they start talking about shared sacrifice.
And shared sacrifice means y'all better get used to a pretty damn low standard of living because the whole system is coming down and we're going to grab as much gold and treasure as we can and you're going to be left with, you know, tang as your meals.
And that is what is going to happen.
It's all how sexy austerity is and how it's good to be in a depression and all the trendies are like, oh yeah, we're imploding.
It's so fun.
So they're now making it fun to be a poor slave.
Yeah, they're absolutely doing that kind of stuff and it's completely wretched and we need to push back on the idea of sacrifice.
This is not how the West was built.
The West was not built on let's accept lower and less and more poverty and less access to information and less of a high standard of living.
That had nothing to do with how the West was built.
The West was built on life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, property rights and freedom and a growth in the economy that was continual so that we could deal with things like environmental problems by wealth.
Not through poverty. You know, to solve environmental problems, you need an excess of wealth so that you can install scrubbers so that you can have more localized production of energy.
You don't want a poverty-based reduction in your standard of living.
That's right. Wealth makes things cleaner.
Wealth, on record, makes you have less children.
And instead, they've blocked development, making it filthy squalor.
Yes, and they're going to call this sacrifice, and what they're going to do is they're going to try and make a virtue out of surrendering the last vestiges of your middle class lifestyle and say, it's for the planet, it's for the children, it's for the future, it's for the spotted owl, it's for the fish in the sea, it's for every...
This has nothing to do with it.
The only way to solve environmental depredation is through the privatization.
Oh, and here's another thing while I'm on that topic of privatization.
You're also going to see a massive privatization of government, which is another form of tax increase.
Because what happens is they privatize, let's say they privatize the parks.
Well before you didn't have to pay much to get into the parks because it was absorbed in your taxes.
Now when they privatize the parks you're going to have to pay a lot more to go into the park.
It's just another form of raising your taxes.
So they're going to sell stuff off and they're going to take the profits for themselves and then you're going to have to pay the private company.
Well it's not real privatization either because it's all done inside deals.
That's right, just as it was in Russia.
And, oh, okay, last thing, so I'm in a good rant fest here.
The banks have now recently been threatened with, you have to pay $30 billion and we're going to wipe out any problems you had with your fraudulent mortgages.
And they have almost no proof.
They don't know how far this mortgage fraud goes.
And I imagine it goes enormously far.
And I bet you that the wisdom of Solomon could not figure out who actually owns a house in America anymore because it's been so split up and diversified and sold all over the planet.
But now what they're saying is that you're going to shake these banks down, the five or six major banks who defrauded the US government, defrauded the customers and lied about the, at least according to the allegations, lied about the quality of these investments to investors all around the world, that they're going to get let off with $30 billion.
People say, well, that's a lot of money.
But it doesn't come out of the pockets of the There's 1.5 quadrillion in derivatives.
Bank of America is taking houses they never even had a deed to that are paid for with people that have pure title going back decades.
It is in the thousands of trillions.
And yeah, they're telling the big banks, government's going to guarantee all this if you put 30 billion in.
With the big six banks, that doesn't even come to 200, 300 billion.
It isn't even near 1 trillion.
But the public here is $30 billion.
That sounds big.
You're absolutely right, Stefan Molyneux.
Let's go to some calls. I'm skipping this network break, and I want to go five minutes into overdrive so we get to Beth, Michael, Brian, Sean, George, and others.
You're on the air, Beth, from Texas with Alex Jones and Stefan Molyneux.
Welcome. Hi, Alex.
What my question is, is I'm wondering with, I've bought some gold and silver, and what I'm wondering is, is that Are we ripe for confiscation or will they do it in another way, basically through taxation, Right now, if I sell some of the gold and silver I have, there's a 28% capital gain.
Well, people do that under the...
Yeah, I mean, I'm not telling you what to do, but folks, that's why gold's really good because it's hard to track.
Look, here's the deal.
People say, why should I own gold?
They could take it. Well, why should I have children?
They could die in a car wreck or, you know, die of cancer.
God forbid they don't, but I'm not out of fear not gonna live.
Gold and silver aren't perfect.
And yes, I believe down the road they're going to try to slap taxes on.
They're going to try to take it.
But it's better than them just taking it through inflation or taking it right out of your bank account.
It's harder for them to get.
Do like my grandmother's father and my grandfather's father.
Both of them, different parts of Texas, didn't turn their gold in when the Fed said do it in 1933.
And so it comes down to the end of the day saying, I'm not doing what you tell me, crooks.
And if enough of us do it, they can't enforce on us.
What do you say to that, Stefan Molyneux?
Well, I think that's right.
And I also think that it's well worthwhile buying stuff at the moment with your fiat currency that can't be taken, right?
So buy a bunch of food, buy some water, you know, stock up a little bit.
Even if you don't think there's going to be a huge collapse, there's sure as heck going to be massive inflation in food prices over the next year.
So that's a great way.
I mean, they're not going to come and take cans from your basement.
So you can convert your fiat currency into something you can eat, something you can use, grow a vegetable garden, do all of that kind of good stuff unless you want to be arrested like some people are for growing vegetable gardens.
But yeah, Al-Qaeda Gardens.
The terrorist tomato is loose in the neighborhood.
Oh no, run, run! That's right.
The vegetables are coming.
Flee! He's facing 90 days in jail for a tomato plant.
In her yard, yeah. Yeah, very sad.
Yeah, so that would be my suggestion.
Yeah, I mean, Beth, you can go in little coin shops in places, swap meets.
You can buy gold and silver here and there.
You can buy it from companies like Midas.
I mean, so what?
I mean, the crooks may announce tomorrow we've all got to be drafted to fight for Emperor Bumblebee or whoever's in power then.
I mean, at the end of it, they may nuke Chicago and say the Easter Bunny did it and I mean, there's no telling what they'll do to try to make you love them through fear.
And you just got to get the word out that they're the terrorists.
They staged 9-11. And if you don't do that, they're going to keep staging terror attacks.
How do you deal with government staging crises or wars as a pretext to make people primitively rally around the king New World Order person?
Stefan. Well, I think all you have to do is point out the number of times that these things have occurred before.
I mean, it's well established now that the Gulf of Tompkins incident was staged and fabricated, and that started a war that killed millions of people.
Everybody's completely aware about the lies about the WMDs in both the British and American press.
And isn't it shocking that the news of the world is shut down because they hacked a few cell phones?
The fact that they supported a war that's killed over a million people and driven millions more into exile, that didn't get them shut down.
Well, this is political fighting.
This is Soros striking at Murdoch.
You know, these globalists even get in little fights with each other.
Yeah, that's true. The turf wars, like the five families in New York, they're just turf wars and we think that it's got something to do with our freedom, but it's just them battling over our tax revenue, which is really quite sad.
Absolutely. I mean, well said.
I'm glad you brought that up. Thank you, Beth.
Does that answer your question? Yes, it does.
Thank you. Thank you.
And I want to just say I'm not with Stefan Molyneux.
I agree that up in Michigan and in other areas where they're arresting people for growing tomatoes in their yard, I think that's reasonable, and that's what George Washington fought for.
I'm not with the extremists, okay?
Right. Well, you know, he obviously cut down the cherry tree because you don't want to eat cherries.
You know, he understood that the war really needs to be against fruits and vegetables.
So I think that's why he chopped down that tree.
And I think we're all with him on that.
Stefan, you are really starting to get it.
I really am. You're not an extremist now.
Good. I feel like I'm not being dragged behind the train of Alex Jones.
I'm actually clambering on the caboose and starting to walk up.
And it feels good. No, I think you're on your own train way up ahead of me there, my friend.
You can't do Darth Vader yet, but we'll get you there.
Michael, in Florida, you're on the air with an evil person.
Go ahead. Oh, Michelle.
Michelle. I gotta read that better.
Michelle, welcome. Hi, Alex.
Hi, Stefan. Mine isn't so much of a question as if I wanted both your thoughts on this.
You've been talking about for the past few weeks a possible false flag maybe in America or in Europe with Gaddafi.
Well, they would never do that.
I mean, they shipped 30,000 guns to blame it on the Second Amendment in New Mexico, and they would never stage a terror attack.
I'm sorry, ma'am. Go ahead. That's okay.
My thought was, I know that we're the resistance and a lot of the Christian people, but they're supposed to be having this big summit in Washington, the CUFI, in July 18th through the 20th, I thought.
But anyway, is it too far out there to think?
Because Glenn Beck's supposed to be there, and you just said they're going to blame it on Glenn Beck.
Do you think it's possible that they would try a false flag?
I mean, with thousands of...
Well, let's not give them any idea.
But yeah, they're all scaring us about the caliphate Muslim extremists and then publicly funding all the groups in every case and funding al-Qaeda right now against Gaddafi.
I mean, I'm not saying some of these groups aren't out of control and dangerous.
The point is, who fed that dog?
Who trained that dog? And absolutely, false flag is the next card they're going to pull.
You better believe it. You can see all the prepping and priming and Jim Jones Kool-Aid drills where they're telling us, when the terrorist attack, what do you do?
Give our rights up to you.
What do you do when the terrorist attack?
Bend over and give you my bank account.
What do you do when the terrorist attack?
Let you grope our five-year-olds.
What do you do when we stage the terror attack?
Worship you. You're our daddy.
Thank you for the call, Michelle.
I'm going to go to Brian, Sean, George Lee.
The show's about to end. We'll have internet only for five minutes if Stefan can do it to finish those calls.
Your comments on what I just said, Stefan Molyneux.
Well, you can see this happening already, Alex.
I mean, they've cut hundreds of millions of dollars in military funding to Pakistan, which is going to destabilize the ruling governments.
Many people don't understand the degree to which tyrannies around the world are supported by Western money for a variety of nasty and evil reasons.
So there's going to be destabilization in Pakistan.
And that, of course, is going to be pretext for another intervention and more control and more growth.
So you just need to be exploding this stuff ahead of time.
Put the predictions out there and try and be as right as possible and that's going to gain you credibility with anybody who's got a few brain cells left rolling around.
Well, they caught the CIA guy trying to give nuke material to Al-Qaeda to then blame on the Pakistan government publicly two months ago.
They're not playing games. They're getting that little ledger, that history ready when they blow up Chicago.
They've already bought the properties they want to blow up.
Let's go ahead and talk to Brian in Wisconsin.
You're on the air. Go ahead.
Hi, Alex. Hello, sir.
Hey, just sitting here with my 14-year-old daughter, working on getting her woken up, and thanks for waking me up because I passed on the favor to a number of my friends, and they're getting the idea.
But I had an idea.
You were talking about Ron Paul, and I had a couple campaign slogans for Dr.
Paul. Do you want to hear them? Yes, tell us.
The extremist, go ahead.
Their adaptation. The first one is Paul and no fed.
Okay. The second one is, it's the Federal Reserve, stupid.
I agree. Ooh, I'm going to do a t-shirt of that.
I'm stealing that. It's the Federal Reserve, stupid.
Beautiful. All right.
Glad you like it. And you know, if he would just get up there while he's got a platform on the debates...
I just started saying to the American people, did you know that the Federal Reserve is owned by Rockefeller, Rothschild, Warburg?
No, no, I agree. Ron Paul's great, but if he got a lot more hardcore, then that would have a bigger effect.
Maybe we can give Ron Paul some Red Bull before he gets up there.
Maybe we can waterboard Ron Paul with coffee.
Starbucks coffee.
No, the guy's 75 years old, works all day long, and he's a gentleman.
Listen, I gotta go. Stefan Molyneux, the main radio show's over, but I'm gonna do five more minutes into Overdrive Internet Only and Infowars.com to talk to Sean, George, and Lee.
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Obama's establishing an executive dictatorship.
This is really happening.
It's all the proofs there.
We're searching the term Obama dictatorship to try to make it number one on Google.
Going back to Stefan Molyneux.
We only got five minutes left right now.
Let's talk to Sean in Wyoming.
Sean, go ahead. Thank you, Alex.
I just want to say thank you for waking me up.
I'm honored to be on your show.
And I speak for the majority of the American people, and I say, we're sick of it!
I'm tired of this! Ah!
Testify, brother. Everything that is controlled...
I mean, let me give you a little background on myself.
I'm going to college this fall to be a personal trainer slash physical education teacher, and I've been trying to get food that is good for me, and it's nowhere to be found.
Not Alcada Tomatoes.
Oh, yeah. Farms around America is...
Stephan, we've got another one of these people who doesn't want to eat GMO. Yep, I don't want to eat GMO. I don't want to eat none of that.
Terrorists. They claim to be grass-fed beef.
I don't even know if it really is.
Terrorists! I don't give a shit.
Okay, I appreciate your call.
I understand your anger. Stephan, it's good that folks are getting angry because that's the first step in getting woken up.
Absolutely. You know, the fight or flight mechanism, if we can tamp down the flight and focus on the fight, I think that's a good use of adrenaline these days.
Well done, Lord Molyneux.
Let's go ahead and talk to George in Connecticut.
You're on the air, my friend.
Good to speak to you again.
I heard some people talking over on a Sunday show on WABC in New York area coming into my state, Connecticut.
And I couldn't believe it. It almost sounded like your hardcore show.
I mean, you're bleeding over to a lot of different networks.
You're beating their tail off.
Now they can no longer keep it quiet.
You know, I think it's more than that.
People have been managed in the narrative of the little tight left-right box that the social engineers like Curl Quigley wrote about.
Once, I don't show people the truth.
I show folks there's a bigger world and get them to take their own blinders off, and then they see it.
Stefan comments. Well, if you put something in someone's food that continually makes them fat, you know, like corn syrup or whatever, this sort of stuff, then they may not believe you for a while because it's like, ooh, this tastes good, I like it!
But eventually, when they look down and they can't see, let's say, their toes, for want of a better word, if they look down and they can't see their toes because their gut is so big, At that point, they may believe you.
Because if you don't believe the reason and the arguments and the evidence ahead of time, you then have to accept the evidence after the fact.
And the fact that the system is breaking down so badly is proof that it's immoral at its core.
And so people who didn't accept the moral arguments now are seeing the terrible effects of violence.
And that's, I think, enough to shore up our moral arguments.
I want to get one last caller in, but George, what were they talking about on WABC? Oh, they were talking everything from the Federal Reserve to the way of being raped and how they're going to be raping Social Security.
I heard it on several different shows that ABC was the biggest because they're one of the biggest networks.
No, I know. W-A-B-C. Appreciate the call.
Let's talk to Lee in Minnesota.
You'll be our tail gunner with Stefan Mullen today.
Go ahead. Hit us and hit us hard.
Alex, Stephen, I would like to ask both of you quickly today, and maybe you could get into this more, Alex, tomorrow or the next day.
About particularly what they're talking about with the 14th Amendment, because I believe, Stephen, that things are already dead and that they will invoke this clause, what, from 1868?
Yeah, I saw this weird, creepy, he's going to be like Abraham Lincoln, you watch stuff, even in the campaign, and they're now trying to invoke it.
I appreciate your call.
Stephen Molyneux, what do you think of that?
Well, I mean, they're now announcing the president can basically be a dictator.
Oh, yeah, but that's, I mean, what do you mean can be a dictator?
He's already been a dictator for quite some time.
I mean, there was somebody who asked Nancy Pelosi, some reporter asked Nancy Pelosi prior to Obamacare, he said, what aspect of the Constitution allows the federal government to mandate health insurance for Americans?
And she just looked at him like he was speaking Martian out of his armpit, because it's like, what on earth would the Constitution have to do with We're out of time, Stefan, but I want to go out here with you with a war growl.
Let's stop the flight.
Let's get the fight going.
Do it with me on three.
One, two, three.
Ah! Cut back to him.
Yeah. Now, let's give us another one.
I want to see you. Ah! Come on, Stefan.
Ah! Ah!
Wake up, folks.
Wake up. Fight back.
See you back tomorrow live. Spread the word about the transmission.
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