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1913 Liberty Fest Two Chat Transcript

Stefan Molyneux of Freedomain Radio answers chat room questions for Liberty Fest 2, to be held in New York City, September 10, 2011.

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	This is a transcript of Stefan Molyneux, host of Free Domain Radio, answering questions in the chatroom for Liberty Fest 2, to be held in New York City September 10, 2011, where Stefan will also be giving a speech.
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	Brennan, Stefan.
	What is your position on the United States arresting and placing Cannabis Culture magazine editor and creator Mark Emery into U.S. prison over letting the sovereign state of Canada deal with him instead?
	On him. Wait to steal my thunder.
	Michael Mea Fake One.
	Wow, great question Brennan.
	Brennan, TNX. Stefan, my position is that the war on drugs is run by sociopaths.
	Sterlin Luhan, LOL. Stefan, and there is of course no such thing as a war on drugs.
	RP2012, nice. Cory, the war on some drugs.
	Stefan, I've never seen them throw a bail of cocaine in jail.
	Brennan, lol.
	Corey, h-a-h-a, nice.
	Stefan, there is only and forever war on human beings, on people, on the innocent.
	Sterling Luhan, there is only a war on people.
	Yep. Stefan, can you imagine them handcuffing a marijuana plant?
	Stefan, you have the right to.
	Michael Ahia.
	Sterling Luhan, H-A-H-A. Stefan, M-M-M-M-M. Stefan smells nice.
	Bob Kelly, H-A-H-A. Stefan smells like.
	Stefan, freedom.
	Brennan, thanks for your answer.
	Stefan, and abasement.
	RP2012 teen spirit.
	Corey H-A-H-A? Perfect answer!
	Stefan, H-A-H-A, right?
	Joey Lodrich, hello fellow Patriots!
	Ian Chiaffi, howdy!
	Bob Kelly, E-L-L-O Corey Stefan, how do you feel about Ron Paul running again in 2012?
	Sterlin Lohan, Stefan I've read a little and watched some videos about your position on psychiatry, and you often use a lot of mental illness metaphors in your speeches and books, but what do you think about mental illness as a medical condition?
	Stefan, I'm really looking forward to the New York conference.
	Sterlin Luhan, sorry for jumping ahead.
	Inchiafi, how many hours are you driving?
	Stefan, I've done some more research on that, and spoken to some subject matter experts, and I think that mental illness is not a very good description.
	Stefan, I think that a lot of people's mental upsets come from a bad conscience and bad philosophy.
	Geoff Bosco, aren't we all a little mentally ill?
	Stefan, there does not seem to be any underlying medical cause.
	Sterling Luhan, yeah, that's pretty much my position.
	For instance, you can't find schizophrenia or depression on a cadaver autopsy.
	Stefan, right?
	Stefan, I did an interview with Thomas Sash.
	Juan Sebastian Ortiz, Steph, I have more and more become adverse to conflating or using a synonym's power and control with freedom or choice.
	The very term empowerment bothers me because there is something not right about the idea of power, even if it's of yourself.
	Joey Lodrich, what is the topic tonight that questions will be on?
	Stefan, he mentioned Lochner.
	Sterling Luhan, really?
	I have not seen that.
	Read his books.
	Stefan, and said, we used to call that person not mentally ill, just murderer.
	Oliver, Steph, as an entrepreneur.
	How do you feel about voting on bills that directly affect your business as opposed to voting for a politician slash non-representing representative?
	Stefan, I don't think that any of my votes would ever directly affect my business.
	Stefan, voting is not a contract.
	Stefan, it is a delusion.
	Oliver, wow, okay, thank you.
	Chris Diamond, thank you for being with us Mr.
	Molyneux. Stefan, thank you so much for coming, it's a real pleasure.
	Juan Sebastian Ortiz, Steph, speaking of Ssuz, what do you think of mood-altering, i.e.
	increasing dopamine, when the immediate cause of stress is not within one's control?
	Or when to try to address it would lead to greater more prolonged stress?
	Brennan, to Stefan, in terms of those that have announced their bid for the United States presidency for 2012, who do you support in that regard at this stage in the game, if you would have to pick?
	Chris Diamond, let me try that again.
	Have any of you heard of Liberty Minute?
	Stefan, I would not take any of them, I'm afraid.
	Brian Frank, are you happy that gas is as cheap as it ever has been, Stefan?
	Stefan, I just spent $85 filling up my car today.
	Stefan, I think I felt the nozzle in my ass.
	Stefan, O-W-I-E. Guest 496, Stefan, is it immoral for a liberty-minded person, myself an anarchist, to work for the government?
	I'm at work there right now.
	Sterling Luhan, I don't mean to take Stefan's question, but it's more complicated than just one neurotransmitter.
	Adam Sanico, evening everyone.
	Brian Frank, that's funny money.
	If we were still on the silver standard it would be 8 cents.
	Michelle Foy, Stefan, is there any particular topic you wish us to stick to tonight?
	Stefan, H-A-H-A, true.
	Stefan, I'm open to whatever people want to talk about it.
	Oliver, Stephen, what do you think about free men on the land people I keep hearing about it?
	One Sebastian Ortiz, the topic of your new short book.
	Brennan, Stephen, Coke, or Pepsi?
	Stephen, Champagne?
	Sterling Luhan, lol.
	Brennan, lol.
	Joel Aldrich, so many of us in one chatroom.
	48 right now.
	Guess we better scoot our chairs over to make room for everyone.
	Agora's bitcoins went from 0.50 dollar sign to 6.50 dollar sign in less than two months.
	12,345 L.O.L. Adam Sanico, Stefan, with Wood, that Ron Paul will announce his run tomorrow.
	What do you think the future will hold for him?
	Brennan, free men on the land?
	Michelle Foy, I believe H-A-A-R-P slash chemtrails is the greatest threat to humanity.
	How can we stop it?
	Stefan, I think it would be a complete disaster if he were to be elected president.
	Brian Frank, really?
	One Sebastian Ortiz, why?
	Stefan, because the US is like the Titanic.
	It hit the iceberg about 30 years ago.
	Now is not the time to be the captain.
	Libertarianism would get blamed for all of the disasters that have been generations in the making.
	Brian Frank, okay, looking at it that way.
	Jake Edel, good evening Stefan.
	Sterling Luhan, Joel, I'll have my bachelor's in psychology soon, and I have a little bit of knowledge on that subject, if you want to discuss it with me at a later date as well.
	Brennan, the Titanic is sinking already Stefan, allow the crash I say.
	Hey, remember what happened when we had our very first libertarian president?
	It would kill freedom for probably two or three hundred years.
	Is it immoral for a liberty-minded person, myself an anarchist, to work for the government?
	I'm at work there right now.
	I don't think it's immoral.
	R.P. 2012 Damned, if you do damned if you don't.
	If a socialist is in during the crash he'll blame it on free market, if Ron Paul is in they'll blame it on Ron Paul.
	Austrian asked in, is it immoral to take financial aid?
	Stefan, no, I don't think so.
	Michelle Foy, you're not a moral guest 496, you're an insider.
	Chris Diamond, Stefan, even with power, as the commander-in-chief, to remove our military from Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Libya, and other place.
	I mean, this is about a friend.
	I had that question as well.
	With the government, and with fiat currency, and with national debts, and with subsidies, we are in a state of nature with the state.
	Can I get food stamps, too?
	Sure. Onim, I say you're giving so much money to the government, might as well take back what you can.
	Austrian asked in, yes.
	Stefan, bleed the beast.
	Sterling Luhand, haha.
	Stefan. There are no moral rules in a state of compulsion.
	Morality is for liberty, for voluntarism.
	We all need to refuse to pay more taxes until every cent is accounted for.
	Isn't bank deregulation a problem?
	In a non-status system, there would be no oversight.
	Sterling Luhan, I myself have been having a strike of what Freud called moral anxiety over taking federal grants.
	One Sebastian Ortiz is that to say that morality is predicated on the assumption of communication and agreement.
	Patrick Chapman, blimey, difficult to keep up.
	Stefan, first of all, there is no oversight now.
	Ham Radio, isn't it ironic to have a Liberty Fest in New York City?
	And the best thing about the free society is that at least you would know in advance that there was no oversight, and so you would take steps to protect yourself and be skeptical.
	There was in the past Stefan, and also, most people in a free society would not be investors.
	Chris Diamond, I disagree Stefan.
	There is oversight.
	To make sure the wealth keeps going to the right people, and that no one gets busted for the theft.
	Onefs, hello.
	Stefan, they would probably not even need to keep their money in a bank.
	Jake Edel, there is oversight.
	Jake et al. Chris is right.
	Stefan. Because there would be little to no inflation, and perhaps there would even be deflation, just as there is in the computer field now.
	Michelle Foy. Yeah Jake it's called the IMF. But prior to the deregulation under Regan, the system was rather stable.
	There is so much cronyism right now it's hard to be employed for someone who has not benefited from it.
	I don't see it as always wrong to take it, but I can't bring myself to do it, and I am in an awful condition financially.
	And so you would not need to continually invest your money, because you're losing it to inflationary pressures.
	Sterling Luhan, the government actually grew with Reagan.
	Jake et al, just playing devil's advocate.
	Stefan, I took some government loans and grants for my university education.
	Ham Radio, the government has grown with every president.
	Chris Diamond, the inflation tax does not get nearly enough airtime on the lamestream media.
	Sterling Luhan, I see Stefan.
	Stefan, I'm perfectly happy to take the money of the government to fight against the government.
	Stefan, to take an extreme example.
	Sterlin Luhan, did you have anxiety over the grant since it was blood money?
	Brennan, Stefan, have you ever tried psychedelics?
	Stefan, in a war, if your enemy drops his gun and you are unarmed, do you pick it up?
	Sterlin Luhan, lol.
	Michelle Foy, better it go to you than another chemtrail plane or black op.
	Stefan, of course you do.
	Stefan, I have never taken any psychedelics.
	Stefan, or even tried marijuana.
	Cory, I would pay to see Stefan do a podcast on mushrooms.
	Juan Sebastian Ortiz, Stefan's family conquered England.
	He's a Norman. Brennan, lol.
	I have an ol' philosophical slash epistemological question.
	When you say you're an empiricist, that isn't the same thing as logical positivism of mainstream economics, right?
	You agree with the Austrians about stressing the a priori deductive nature of economic science?
	Great question, Austin.
	C.J. Johnson, no drugs, Steph?
	Wow! Stefan, I do agree with the Austrians about that, but when I talk about empiricism, I mean that all of our concepts are imperfectly derived from reality.
	It just seems to me that when you refer to the state as a failed social experiment it's dangerously close to the same language.
	What that means is that in any conflict between a mental construct and empirical evidence, it is the mental construct that must give way, which is pretty much the scientific method.
	from the sensory modalities is what empiricism refers to generally.
	It also means that we cannot accept as valid concepts for which there is no empirical evidence.
	Stefan, such as the state.
	Stefan, or Sterling Luhan, right?
	Chris Diamond, or God?
	Stefan, a country.
	If I ask why a whole bunch, will you be able to answer forever?
	I don't see no stinking links.
	We don't need no stinking links.
	Stefan, what is the meaning of life?
	Jordan, I had a question about your book on UPB. Is UPB a preference that applies to all people, all the time, no matter what their end is?
	Brennan, lol Stefan, there is no meaning.
	Sterlin Luhan, H-A-H-A Brian Frank, how is that?
	Oliver, damn!
	Brennan, no! Stefan, there is truth, there is falsehood, there is integrity and corruption, happiness, guilt, and everything in between.
	Brennan, my life is ruined now.
	Chris Diamond, I'm still struggling with articulation of the argument against social welfare for the poor.
	Not because I don't understand it, but I can't break it down simply enough for those who disagree, I suppose.
	Geoff Bosco, what does there is no meaning mean?
	On him, ha ha ha.
	Michelle Foy, Washington, D.C. is not a part of the U.S., therefore we take our orders from foreign interests.
	Stephan, and the purpose of philosophy is truth, because I believe in the old Socratic equation that reason equals virtue equals happiness.
	Stephan, and there is no sustainable happiness without a firm foundation of rational and empirical truth.
	Brian Frank, True Michelle.
	Oliverm, Stefan, what are you reading right now?
	Stefan, this chatroom.
	Chris Diamond, sounds a lot like objectivism to me.
	Oliverm, laughing out loud, I meant books.
	Brennan, lol.
	Wonfs, lol.
	Brennan, hahaha.
	Adam Sanico, LOL. Sterling Luhan, Ayn Rand has a place in this discussion.
	Guest 808, Why Happiness?
	Brennan, Stephen, What's You Zodiacal Sign?
	Stephen, I'm reading a book by Chris Whalen on the history of inflation in America because I'm interviewing him in the morning.
	Stephen, Libra.
	Onefs, A-S-T-E-F, I just heard you are working on another book, can you give us a peek into it?
	There was talk about a book on self-knowledge at some point that I'm quite interested in.
	Chris Diamond, I am of the opinion that trans philosophy will make perfect sense to some and be completely senseless to others.
	Brennan, Libra, it...
	Brennan, Liberty.
	Chris Diamond, perhaps it is a genetic thing.
	Stefan, that is Latin for a bald guy who strangely still thinks he's totally hot.
	Chris Diamond, star genetic.
	Michelle Foy, lol.
	Stefan, points at himself, I'd hit that.
	Onim, ohhh our resident hot bald guy lovers in here.
	Brennan, lol. Oliver, laughing out loud.
	Brennan, so hot.
	Brennan, lol.
	Sterlin Luhan, by the way Steph, I really enjoyed how not to achieve freedom.
	Good stuff. I'm waiting for the second part.
	David Bachman, Steph, I was intrigued by your dispute resolution organization model you described briefly on The Last Adam vs.
	The Man Show. Is there somewhere we can read more about that?
	Stephan, thank you so much.
	Paul Armbruster, sorry, I wouldn't.
	Stephan, H-A-H-A, good plug.
	Brennan, lol.
	Adam Sanacook, Stefan, from the point of inflation and fiat, how much longer would you say the dollar has left?
	I'm talking from estimation.
	Brennan, me neither.
	Once Sebastian Ortiz, Steph John Woolman dedicated his life to abolishing slaves among the people of his church from his mid-twenties to the end of his life, dying twenty years earlier than it took for the Quakers to free their slaves before the abolition of slavery.
	Do you think you will live long enough to see the transition to a free society?
	Guest 89, 4 months, 2, and a half weeks.
	Stephan Why yes, I have two free books on a voluntary society called Everyday Anarchy and Practical Anarchy.
	You can get them www.freedomainradio.com web link.
	Brian Frank, LOL. CJ Johnson, buy your silver now.
	David Bachman, woo what, thanks.
	Stefan, we will not live long enough to see a free society.
	Brian Frank, buy your food also.
	Michelle Foy, I gotta agree with Bob Chapman.
	It's already over.
	Take your retirement and move till it in America.
	Brian Frank, get prepared.
	Stefan, which is why it is so honorable to fight for one.
	Juan Sebastian Ortiz, I am 20-something years younger than you.
	Sterling Lujan, Stef, how do you remain so patient when debating with confused status and collectivists?
	Stefan, does it matter?
	Sterling Luhan, lol.
	Jordan, I had a question about your book on UPB. Is UPB a preference that applies to all people, all the time, no matter what their end is?
	Stefan, it took me over 20 years to go from socialism to anarchism.
	Gigib, talk of HBG and no Amanda.
	Interesting lol.
	Stefan, I can't expect someone to get it in a half-hour conversation.
	C.J. Johnson, it took me two years.
	Stefan, well, I had a pretty extensive deterrent to objectivism.
	C.J. Johnson, I still tip my hat to rend.
	Guest 89, Rand Paul Yeo.
	Sterling Luhan, I've read all of her nonfiction.
	Good shit. Christopher Wolf, Rand, and Brandon.
	Stefan, Rand was amazing.
	I have at times heard you use the word selfish referring to status, i.e., with a negative connotation.
	Do you agree with Rand's idea of selfishness as a virtue and reject on principle its use as an insult?
	Stefan, I think that I prefer the term self-interest to selfish.
	Brian Frank, time for bed, thanks Stefan.
	Michelle Foy, still how can anyone believe anarchism is rational when we have such a conundrum as the human race?
	Sterling Luhan, rational egoism is the nifty technical term.
	Stefan, I have to live with the word anarchism.
	I'm not going to try and reclaim the word selfish as well.
	Geoff Bosco, selfish and selfless are both meaningless terms.
	Guest 89, selfish has a negative connotation, for sure.
	C.J. Johnson, LOL. GIGAB, Representative Ron Paul introduces H.R. 1831, the Industrial Hemp Farming Act.
	Stephan, the rationality of anarchism has nothing to do with the existing human condition.
	Brennan, sure does.
	Sterling Luhan, well said.
	Michelle Foy, my point exactly, Stephan.
	Oliverm, are we worse off in Canada because of the monarchy, or are we all just fucked?
	Stephen, just as the rationality of the sun-centered solar system had nothing to do with contemporary medieval superstitions, Stephan, the truth or falsehood of a proposition, of course, is judged relative to its rationality and evidence, not to the ignorance, fear, and hostility of the propagandized herd.
	Brennan, 21st century monarchy equals fail.
	Guest 89, well, at least the health care is free.
	Juan Sebastian Ortiz, do you foresee FDR becoming part of the mainstream dialogue, as the inevitable effects of statism accelerate in Western tax forms?
	I believe that Canada is better off than the United States, for the simple reason that we do not have a military-industrial complex to nearly the same degree.
	What advice would you give to someone sure they want to pursue their entrepreneurial interests but unsure as to what field or direction to start in?
	What is the missing link so to speak between today's condition and the goal?
	Austrian asked in, when should I move to Canada?
	CJ Johnson, never.
	Oliver, thanks Steph.
	Guest 89, gain experience in a field and learn what to do to improve the process.
	Stephan. My advice to the entrepreneur would be this.
	The most important thing is to find people you want to work with and then 8 project you are all passionate about.
	Brennan, never.
	Brennan, lol.
	Stefan, but entrepreneurship first starts with the people.
	Oliver, what's your backup location if all hell breaks loose?
	Stefan, under my bed.
	CJ Johnson, underground.
	Guest 89, my parents' basement.
	12,345, do you think people should get out of the U.S.? Kind of scary, what's going down?
	Sterling Luhan, LOL. Oliver, laughing out loud.
	I'm not sure about that.
	There are a few good books out there on relocation.
	Are you a fan of Canadian comedian?
	Moving countries is a pretty big deal.
	I do think it's worthwhile trying to get another passport, if possible.
	Thank you, Steph.
	Stefan, I think he's a little bit coarse, but occasionally he could be quite funny.
	Juan Sebastian Ortiz, do you have a British passport too?
	Stefan, EEC. Oliverm, thoughts on Jorgen's rants against the system.
	Christopher Wolf, I recommend Deep Woods Living.
	Brennan, thanks.
	Michelle Foy, everyone should get a passport before it becomes impossible.
	Thugs already checking tax records before letting folks leave the country.
	Guest 89, if you move somewhere cold and desolate, the chance of invaders decreases.
	C.J. Johnson, Antarctica it is.
	Stefan, my particular belief is that when the time has come to leave the country, it may well be worthwhile retreating from the intellectual battle completely, because I think at that point we're kind of giving up, wouldn't you say?
	Christopher Wolf, again, N.H. Woods.
	Bonham, New Hampshire.
	Bonham, cold and desolate enough for me.
	Stefan, I mean, no one tries to steer the sinking ship from the lifeboat.
	Sterling Luhan, good point.
	Guest 89, yep, exactly, Antarctica.
	Oliver, very true Stefan.
	Chris Diamond, without a little title to land, and therefore without property, what rights do we really have?
	They have disregarded the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
	We've had habeas corpus suspended for ten years.
	Patrick Chapman, yes I think moving country should be an economic decision.
	C.J. Johnson, Antarctica, or Anarchtica.
	Sterling Luhand, giving in to the demands of the status that if you don't like it here you can move somewhere else.
	Adam Sanico, Chris, longer than that.
	Spying has been happening for decades.
	Ham Radio at Chris.
	Juan Sebastian Ortiz, what do you think, though, of global mobility such as displayed by Doug Casey?
	Australianist in Mises, Germany.
	Michelle Foy, we have to balance reality with higher thinking.
	Hard to entertain esoterics when you are fighting to survive.
	Australianist in For America.
	ham radio depending on what state you live in you still have the right to own guns stefan i do believe it is too late to turn things around and has been for many many years but i do think that we need to leave a record for the future of what really went wrong Juan Sebastian Ortiz, would you move to a safer place if necessary and continue to broadcast from there?
	Chris Diamond, yes Adam, you are correct, C-O-I-N-T-E-L-P-R-O, etc.
	I'm with you. Stefan, I don't think that's going to be an issue in Canada.
	I don't think I will need to move to a safer place.
	Guest 89, Antarctica.
	Austrian Astin, Mises left Germany and continued writing in America.
	Michelle Foy, that's a good example, Austin.
	Corey Steffen, do you own any guns?
	Brennan. A-M-E-R-I-K. Stefan, again, no military-industrial complex, and very little religiosity relative to the United States, and no empire of course, which means no blowback to overreact to see patriot act.
	Guest 89, you don't lose rights, you just have them violated.
	Guest 791, how do I listen to the feed?
	Paul Armbruster, have you referred to Shamsky ever in your podcast slash talks?
	I imagine you would admire him.
	Would you jump at the chance to talk with him?
	Adam Seneca, no offense to you, as an atheist, Stefan, but when you know it hits the fan, I think a little faith would do this world some good.
	Guest 89, put food in your ear, Voila.
	Tracy Diaz, everyone here?
	Canada is safe.
	Geoff Bosco, if the current road we are on is unsustainable, is it not also unsustainable for our current elite?
	Austrian Estin, Blech, Chomsky.
	Christopher Wolf, if Ron Paul gets in he will not get anything done because Congress will override all things.
	Would hate to see the ass crumble on his watch.
	Adam Sanico, circumflex I agree.
	Michelle Foy, having a pay rate act, and enforcing it are two different things.
	Hence the need to make sure the military-slash-police know their duty to defend the Constitution.
	Austrian asked in anarcho-syndicalism the theory that minimum wage workers should run everything.
	Juan Sebastian Ortiz, Steff, what is your most pervasive subconscious bigotry or leftover post-cultural prejudice resulting from upbringing?
	Stefan, I'm not sure I would jump at the chance to talk to Shomsky, and I do admire his analysis of U.S. foreign policy and some of his history of working-class movements in the United States, but his domestic solutions are positively medieval.
	Oliver, glad to be in the fictitious border of a body of rules, that is Canada, after those comments.
	Adam Sanico, Congress would treat him like a madman.
	Guest 791, is this just a text chat, or is there a fee to listen to?
	Guest 89, he answers when you email him.
	RP 2012, text only.
	Brennan, Stefan, what is your position on why Building 7 fell on 911?
	Guest 791, TX. I hate his defense of anarcho-socialism, which is an ugly contradiction in terms.
	Chris Diamond, Michelle, I completely disagree.
	There is no difference between having and enforcing.
	It exists, and as such is an affront to liberty.
	Stefan, as far as 9-11 goes, I would not be shocked if it turned out to be some sort of inside job, but I do not have the engineering or scientific expertise to sift through all of the claims and counter-claims.
	Adam Sanico, the problem with people who want minimum wage workers to rule the world is that they fail to point out the issues with Marx's surplus theory of value.
	Tracy Diaz, I love Dexter.
	I work with a lot of cops, and most of them are oblivious to the true meaning of the Constitution.
	They will readily follow unconstitutional orders without even knowing it.
	Stephan, and I don't believe that it is necessary at all to convict the United States government of international or domestic crimes.
	Paul Armbruster, at Moline All, good to know.
	Brennan, TNX for the answer.
	Jonathan Devine, hello.
	Stephan, I mean, there are some estimates that pinpoint the numbers killed by U.S. imperialism at over 27 million. in.
	Adam Sanico, without employers to fund earnings into new technology, the production, and thus, increases in workers' wages would not be possible.
	Christopher Wolf, they just follow orders.
	I've ee heard that somewhere before.
	Stefan, I think focusing obsessively on 3000 is missing the point.
	Brennan, crazy. Jordan, the knop is not a UPB. What behavior is preferable is dependent on an end.
	One could say it is a UPB that people prefer others do not initiate force against them because the initiation of force always takes away an end.
	It is end independent.
	But it is not a UPB that the initiation of force is not preferred because if I want to kill someone then, for my end, I would prefer initiating force against the person I want to kill.
	Oliver, shit, where do I find these numbers, Stefan?
	Adam Sanico, excuse me, production in goods which leads to higher wages.
	Michelle Foy, yes it is an affront, Chris, but so is all tyranny.
	The fact is our government doesn't represent the populace and we have to use our numbers if we're actually going to get anything done.
	The tyranny will stay on the books.
	Stephen, there is a link on my podcast on Bin Laden, quite recent.
	Guest 89, while the nap is not a UPB, the RKS is most likely an EGM. Juan Sebastian Ortiz, Steph, would you interview Ron Paul, if you had a chance?
	Stephen, that's an interesting question.
	Sterlin Luhan, good question one.
	Stefan, I'm not sure.
	Oliver, RP on FDR would be very intriguing.
	Stefan, I don't think we would have a very productive conversation.
	Guest 89, Why Not?
	Sterlyn Luhan, LOL.
	David Bachman, www.fdworld.com weblink.
	Michelle Foy, I believe there is more than enough evidence to prove 9/11 was an inside job.
	Google, Mysterious Deaths 9 slash 11 Brennan, obsessive focus is bad, but 911 is the key to understand our foreign policy, and if that foreign policy justification was fabricated, then we have lost more than the 3,000 lives, try millions, in the name of fighting terrorism.
	Stephan, well, I agree with him on economic issues.
	Michelle Foy, that's to put the iceberg.
	Tracy Diaz, Stephan, as far as Ben Laden goes, tonight it has come out that the SEAL's helmet cams captured the whole raid.
	Do you believe that is the truth?
	I think Israel is key to our reform policy.
	Adam Sannikow, Stefan, what are your views on FEMA camps?
	With the history of Rex 84, PD 51, and the forced labor program, history gives them creditability.
	Adam Sannikow, just curious.
	Stefan, and disagree with him on religion and the value of political action.
	Austrian Estin, and hubris.
	I'm sure I would not change his mind on religion or politics.
	I would be interested in a debate, not an interview.
	Sherlyn Luhan, hey.
	Michelle Foy, Adam, not to mention the censorship of Jesse Ventura's police state show.
	Onim, idluavat.
	Adam Sanakook, bingo.
	Stefan, some people have asked me why I am not more confrontational in my interviews.
	Stefan. But I saved that for the debates.
	Christopher Wolf. My problem with Ron Paul.
	His leash on us would be much looser, but still a leash.
	12,345.
	Interesting. What sort of methodology of personal research do you use to avoid faith or credence without proof at all costs?
	For example, scientific theories or press accountants for which there is no way for you to prove or disprove slash test.
	Geof Bosco, Steff, I've been seeing the term petrodollar welfare thrown around.
	Do you much about this?
	It's a capitalism at Wolf, that's an excellent way of putting it.
	Sterling Luhan, Right Christopher, Steffen, Geof, it is standard corporate welfare.
	Michelle Foy, Water will be the next oil, Research, Blue Gold.
	It's going to get quite ugly.
	The amount of military aid that is thrown towards oil-rich dictatorships cuts down enormously on the amount of money that needs to be spent by corporations profiting from oil.
	I am somewhat sympathetic to Ron Paul because he helped make me aware of alternatives to statism, but ultimately he's just another GOV employee.
	Also, they are so often shielded from environmental consequences for their disasters, as we saw with BP last year.
	Furthermore, very few corporate executives ever face any personal liability for losses or damages through this disgusting state fascism of corporatism.
	Stefan, and so it is a very non-free market environment, to say the least.
	Geoff Bosco, word.
	Oliver, so is owning the corporation evil?
	Stefan, corporations are sociopathic legal shells for profiteering scumbags who lack the charisma to go into politics.
	Sterling Luhan, yeah, as the Austrians always say, damn the mixed economy.
	Tracy Diaz, haha, damn.
	Christopher Wolf, federally choosing winners and losers.
	Oliver, wow.
	Brennan, Stephan, thank you for your time.
	God slash science bless your journeys.
	Michelle Foy, Oliver, if your corporation isn't status quo you will be destroyed.
	Geof Bosco, corporations are entities of the state.
	Patrick Chapman How do you foresee people challenging bad parenting in the near or for the future?
	Perhaps avoiding the political methodologies?
	Once Sebastian Ortiz, you think a stateless society would have a voluntarily agreed upon death penalty when damages became unpayable for individual executives.
	Sterling Luhan, lol.
	Paul Armbruster, the lack of personal liability in court is insane.
	Yet they are considered a person.
	It's utter insanity.
	One Sebastian Ortiz forced highly paid labor.
	Stefan. There are two ways to change society.
	Michelle Foy, parenting is not a state issue.
	Chris Diamond, got bail, folks.
	Good chat. Please check out thelibertyminute.com.
	Oliver, as a small business owner, though, what do I do to stay in integrity with my values?
	Stefan, from the top down, or through politics?
	David Bachman, good question, Patrick.
	Stefan, and from the bottom up, or through parenting.
	Austrianist in, or the market.
	Stefan, libertarianism, and objectivism and anarchism have always historically focused on trying to change society from the top down.
	Trace ideas, which is the more productive, and don't they counter each other at some point?
	Stefan, And it has consistently been an epic, epic fail approach.
	Juan Sebastian Ortiz, I disagree.
	Juan Sebastian Ortiz, I think anarchism has attempted it horizontally.
	Stefan I strongly argue for trying to change society from the bottom up.
	Do you think the research from adverse childhood experiences really merits a look, being that the studies are mainly just survey?
	One Sebastian Ortiz, the way statism enforces itself.
	Stefan, the state is an effect of the family, and the school, and the church.
	Michelle Foy, it's strategic failure.
	Stefan, have you seen this video floating around on YouTube called Chang'ing Education Paradigms?
	The speaker is Ken Robinson.
	Geoff Bosco, libertarianism is more than just rhetoric.
	It's about living free, which no government can give or take away.
	And people tend to be so traumatized by the lies that are told to them as children that they simply cannot think as adults.
	There is a good deal of science to back this up.
	We cannot reason with people until they are able to reason.
	Patrick Chapman, so primarily parenting of course.
	But are there other ways which avoid the political?
	Michelle Foy, force the bottom-up to argue the top-down.
	Stefan, and they will not be able to reason until they are raised peacefully.
	Stefan, www.fdworld.com weblink.
	YouTube, broadcast yourself.
	Tracy Diaz, our schools indoctrinate our young from the get-go.
	Stefan, that's the science to back that up.
	Sterling Luhan, what are your reading suggestions?
	Believe it or not, they didn't give me good information and my psychology program on child abuse.
	Stephen, a friend of mine had a very good idea.
	Juan Sebastian Ortiz, how do you account for successful people who did not go through therapy despite having been obviously abused?
	Adam Sanico, Stephen, what are your views on military?
	Complete abolishment or private defense systems?
	Stefan, he said that you could end public schools in about two weeks if you simply introduced peaceful parenting courses for children.
	Ham Radio, www.nogen-show.com Adam Sanico, I lean toward the former.
	Stefan, so many parents would be so horrified that they would yank all of their kids out, and the system would collapse.
	Austraein asked in, and we'll hold hands, and sink a bay.
	Ham Radio, no agenda show come.
	Sterling Luhan, I ordered this book by a guy named Strauss about corporal punishment in our children.
	Sterling Luhan, seems like a winder.
	So are still getting too many sheep for that.
	Jordan, will you answer a few of my questions and concerns with UPB if I send you any mail?
	Stefan, but that is why change will not occur quickly enough to save the current system.
	Stefan, because it is a multi-generational process, and we no longer have multi-generations of sustainability in the economic system.
	Sterling Luhan, can't they just keep printing money and continue to tell lies about its worth?
	Tracy Diaz, so Stefan, are you in essence saying we are doomed to failure?
	Gigib, wow Stefan.
	Any solutions? You're depressing me, and I'm an optimist lol.
	Geoff Bosco, the elites have gone to such great lengths to make children into burdensome creatures.
	Once Sebastian Ortiz, how do you account for very successful people who did not go through the required healing and who are obvious victims of child abuse?
	Stefan, Jordan, I would prefer to have a live conversation about it.
	Perhaps you can call into my Sunday show, 2 p.m.
	Eastern Standard Time.
	Just drop us the chat room on my website to be included.
	That's the best way to talk about you, PB. Stefan, I'm certainly not trying to be pessimistic.
	Stefan, but realistic.
	Tracy Diaz, that's the sad part.
	Patrick Chapman, I was considering setting up a support group for parents perhaps.
	When I'm lucky enough to have my own children.
	That was my idea.
	Stefan, the first thing we have to do is stop going in the wrong direction, because we're just getting further and further away from what we want, what the world needs.
	Geoff Bosco, Norrstef, and Jeff Ducker.
	Stefan, H-A-H-A-U-K. Austerianastin, Circumflex, Circumflex.
	Tracey Diaz, I would like to think there is some solution to every problem, not matter how hard it is to find.
	Juan Sebastian Ortiz, Bowtie.
	Australian Aston.
	Sterling Lujan, Tucker is pretty cool.
	I just ordered a shit-ton of books from Mises.org.
	Stefan, I need a flaming monocle, or something to compete with that man's dress sense.
	12,345 LOL. Giaf Bosco, ha ha ha ha ha.
	Sterlin Luhan, laughing out loud.
	Itcapitalism Jeff is one classy fellow, no doubt.
	Sterlin Luhan, the boat I owns you, Steph.
	Gigib, so your solution is to stop going in the wrong direction.
	And the right direction is.
	Stephan, peaceful parenting.
	Stefan, have you ever noticed something?
	I would suggest to most parents out there to not rely solely on the educational system to educate their children.
	Mine go to school but I educate at home as well.
	I've noticed something, I'm sure.
	Stefan. People have the same relationship with the government that they have with their parents at about the age of five.
	David Bachman.
	Wow! Juan Sebastian Ortiz.
	In the absence of sustained intimate slash personal relationships, and with our amount of knowledge about the limits of our time span relative to a free society, what do you think is a good path to happiness?
	People say that the government spends money, but never really think about how it gets that money.
	My kids are perfectly cynical and beautiful.
	Next solution lol.
	Sterlin Luhan, laughing out loud.
	Jeff, I disagree.
	I don't think most parents would kill their five-year-olds for disobedience.
	Sterlin Luhan, good insight.
	Stefan. In the same way that a five-year-old knows that daddy has money, but never really thinks about how he gets it.
	Tracy Diaz, good point.
	Stefan and parents say, if you don't like the rules of this house, you can leave.
	Sterlin Luhan, ROFL. Stefan and people say, if you don't like America, you can leave.
	Stefan. Et cetera et cetera et cetera.
	Australianist in social contract.
	Tracy Diaz, Ivy E got mine right in the next room, and she sure does know daddy has money.
	It looked capitalism the parallels are profound.
	Stefan, and of course.
	That's exactly the age that children go into government schools.
	Keith O'Brien, how many times I've e-heard that.
	Alex Byland, I tried leaving America once.
	I could only be gone for three months at a time, though.
	Stefan, MEH, Republicans are daddy and Democrats are mommy.
	Patrick Chapman, leave, but where?
	It's such sloth thinking.
	Austerian asked in, to be fair, the parent has the legitimate property rights to make that threat.
	Once Sebastian Ortiz, S.D.E.F., in the absence of great personal relationships and considering the extent unfree society, What do you think is a valid path towards happiness for the philosophically oriented person?
	Sterling Luhan, they have to continue their brainwashing like good sheep.
	Tracy Diaz, so I suppose that is why it took me until 20 to start learning more about government.
	Stefan, you can't understand politics unless you look at the family first.
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	That's why people get so emotional about their country.
	Stefan. Because in their mind, you are talking about mommy and daddy.
	Tracy Diaz.
	Or does that not matter because of the skills of the parent?
	Gigib. O-G-E-E-Z. No.
	Stefan. And when you call the government and backslash moral, Stefan, they think you're taking a long slow crap on their family portrait.
	Jeff the government creates financial incentives for broken homes.
	Sterling Luhan.
	Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
	Stefan.
	Yes, certainly.
	The government is eternally at war with the family.
	Jeff by allowing the force of government to be used by one parent against the other.
	It's one of the reasons that the government has grown so much lately, because the nuclear family has been largely destroyed.
	Strong families tend to mean small governments, and vice versa.
	When you have strong families and strong communities, people don't panic about getting ill or poor.
	Stefan, because they know that there will be people who will help them.
	Tracy Diaz, so again, you're in essence saying we are doomed lol.
	Juan Sebastian Ortiz, do you think that in the absence of family, not of origin, but one's own, the possibility of happiness is barred?
	Sterlyn Luhan, haha Tracy!
	Tracy Diaz!
	Juan Sebastian Ortiz, can a lonely man be happy?
	Doctor House sort of thing.
	Stefan, but when families and communities are destroyed by taxation, welfare, debt, war, and so on, then everyone is terrified of the random accidents of life, because they're so alone.
	Paul Armbruster, it's been said our technology has far surpassed our humanity.
	It seems that the massive amount of info blasted into our brains is hindering us from evolving and that the state is playing with fire in its attempt at control.
	I have to wonder what their endgame is, because if we can't progress, they can.
	Stefan, and so everyone believes you need welfare state and a crazy-ass national defense.
	Guess 320 to drive house to me seems like anti-happy.
	Paul Armbruster can't survive.
	Tracy Diaz, well, everyone but us, that is.
	Stephan Aristotle said that any man who could live alone was either a beast or a god.
	Austrianist in the state doesn't have an end.
	Stefan, I've spent a good amount of time alone in my life, but I much prefer being married and a father.
	Because in simple action, collectives don't act.
	Stefan, it's true.
	Love heals all.
	Harrison Fishburke, but Stefan, you are never alone in reality.
	You are just alone, as in not with anyone per se.
	Christopher Wolf, alone was preferable until my daughter was born.
	Jeff the end of the state will come once people realize they enslave themselves via their belief in the state.
	Stefan, sure.
	I agree with that.
	Tracey Diaz, I think we are coming into a period of a great consciousness shift.
	I really do believe that people will start to realize love again.
	Stefan, unplugging from the matrix of collective delusion is a very painful process.
	Juan Sebastian Ortiz, when I began listening to FDR I would tell myself I no longer have to worry about being alone, because I am not alone, I have the best type of relationship with the world in the impersonal free market.
	Guillaume Bosco, living free is difficult.
	Stephan, it is the illusion of companionship that creates the greatest loneliness.
	Juan Sebastian Ortiz, I could get all sorts of goods and services, some even free, like Cetamol, and listen to FDR. Harrison Fishberg, Stephan.
	On a lighter note, what is your favorite dinner-slash-food?
	Stefan, there's nothing like fake food to make you hungrier and hungrier.
	Australian Est-In, 10 bucks on Alfredo.
	Tracey Diaz, I'm stealing that one.
	Stefan, I'm a huge fan of Indian food myself.
	Adam Sannacook, are you a fan of spice?
	Harrison Fishberg, sushi much?
	Adam Sannacook, the hotter the bitter in my book.
	David Bachman, it's hard to get enough of something that almost works.
	Stefan, I do like sushi as well.
	Sterling Luhan, sushi is awesome.
	It's capitalism, yuck, sushi.
	Geoff Bosco, I've worked as a sushi chef.
	Stefan, but my diet has changed quite a lot since I went vegetarian.
	Harrison Fishberg, so Stefan, if I may ask, I have called in to your shows and spoken via email once or twice.
	Guess 322, but why vegetarian?
	Austrian asked in, yeah, I'm curious too.
	Stefan, food tastes a lot stronger now that I'm not drugging it with the easy flavor of meat.
	Juan Sebastian Ortiz, do you still drink?
	Sterlin Lujan, Stefan, are you familiar with Larkin Rose?
	Adam Sanico, with all of the info on what is put into our meat, I can't blame Stefan for switching.
	Stefan, I went vegetarian because my wife is a vegetarian.
	She has been since she was 12 because she just doesn't like me, and my daughter doesn't like it either.
	And since I don't cook as much as my wife does, it seemed kind of unfair to ask her to prepare extra food just for me.
	I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals.
	It's because I hate plants.
	Adam Sanico, I've considered it as well.
	I look at capitalism at Sterling.
	There are a couple YouTubes of Stefan and Larkin having a conversation, I believe.
	Juan Sebastian Ortiz, do you still eat Cheerios?
	Stefan, I know Larkin Rose.
	I met him in Philadelphia.
	We both spoke. Stefan, I think he's just got a new radio show.
	Geoff Bosco, girlfriend is V-E-G-Y makes you beggy by default.
	I liked a couple videos he made.
	Right to the point.
	I highly suggest Thrive by Brendan Brazier.
	That man has some serious stones.
	Sterling Luhan, I'll see if I can locate the show.
	Christopher Wolf, can't go without me, eat mostly what I hunt.
	Jeff Stephan, have you read Larkin's new book, and if so, what do you think of it?
	Sterlin Lujan, I ordered his book.
	Gas 322 but essential saturated gas and animal proteins and creatine for brain function etc etc.
	Humans evolving because of meat I thought.
	Stefan went to prison for over a year.
	Sterlin Lujan, damn!
	Stefan I have not read his new book.
	I really don't have much time for reading outside of books from people I'm going to interview.
	Jeff, sorry about the misspelling of your name.
	Bad Habit.
	Adam Sanico, guest, Vex can still take Omega-3.
	Sterling Luhan, I see.
	Stefan, I only really get a chance to listen to audiobooks, and I don't think his is available in audiobook.
	book.
	Sterling Luhan, I hear that.
	Adam Sanico, that replaces the need to eat meat if taken in high doses.
	Sterling Luhan, right?
	Harrison Fishberg, I must ask.
	I came to the anarcho-capitalist movement from reading and listening to Ron Paul.
	Simply tweet the monarchist idea led me to you, and to Rothbard, etc., etc., round you know how it goes, until I came to this point.
	My question is, why put down Ron Paul, and not support him to some degree, in the sense, that it can direct and help people achieve more enlightenment down the road?
	Once Sebastian Ortiz, Steph, the topic recently came up of nootropics or cognition-enhancing drugs.
	Would you ever try such a thing?
	Do you have any perspective on the matter?
	Sterlin Lujan, so I should take advantage of my free-reading time.
	Sterlin Lujan, lol.
	Stephan, well, critical thinking is all about the unseen.
	Stephan. I certainly accept that many people have come to anarchism through Ron Paul.
	Sterling Luhan, I've tried some of the nootropics.
	Adam Sanico, I have.
	Jeff, thanks for the response.
	Stefan. But that's like saying the government has created certain jobs.
	Stefan, the important thing is not the jobs that are created, but the jobs that are destroyed.
	Harrison Fishberg, right, I understand your perspective.
	Austerian asked in, what do you think of animal rights?
	Adam Sanico, the thing about Paul is that he could benefit the anarcho-movement.
	I feel it is more realistic to change things from the inside out with someone who understands what to do.
	But, I must then ask, you came from the right-wing side of the equation, correct?
	I came to anarchy via Ron Paul's prior campaign.
	And because of Ron Paul's rejection of evolution and his Christianity, we don't know how many people associate libertarianism with that kind of perspective and have stayed away from the movement because of that.
	I have this itching feeling that Ron Paul is a closet anarcho-capitalist.
	Stefan, it's not the scene we have to worry about, it's the unseen.
	RP2012 yay but Ron Paul doesn't really push that.
	Sterling Luhan, Ron Paul actually seems quite about his views on Christianity.
	I've rarely heard him invoke it.
	Stefan, I have no doubt that Ron Paul is a closet anarcho-capitalist.
	On him, he definitely is.
	Stefan, you don't even have to play six of separation to connect him to Marie Rothbard.
	Harrison Fishberg, right?
	Stefan, wrong, Paul Lou Rockwell, Marie Rothbard.
	Stefan, done.
	David Bachmann, then Kevin Bacon.
	Australian Austin, I think he even knew Rothbard personally.
	Sterling Luhan, I loved Rothbard's Libertarian Manifesto.
	Good shit. Stefan, MMM. Stefan, back on.
	Harrison Fishberg, but Stef, I must say, you didn't drive magically at the point of anarcho-capitalism.
	Sterling Luhan, that's what moved me to anarchy.
	Adam Sanico, Stephen, in Dr.
	Paul's new book, he brings up the case that being a Christian does not mean you don't have to believe in evolution.
	Adam Sanico, he says they can connect.
	Juan Sebastian Ortiz, Steph, would you take slash have you ever taken cognition-enhancing drugs?
	The topic came up and I would be interesting in your view of such a concept.
	Adam Sanico, haven't read the CH yet.
	Adam Sanico, but it's a theme in the book.
	Stephan, well, the Pope believes in evolution.
	Adam Sanico, John Paul the two did.
	Stefan, so I accept that you can be a Christian and believe in evolution.
	Harrison Fishberg, you had previous views, etc.
	etc. Why now that you are on one side of the equation, do you push away people torn to that side yet?
	Christopher Wolf and fairies.
	Stefan, but of course, that is to accept that there is any such thing as a Christian.
	Sterling Luhan, really just acknowledge evolution.
	Stefan, which I don't really believe at all.
	Sterling Luhan, no believing required.
	Stefan, the Bible is full of so many contradictory perspectives, morals, arguments and examples that every Christian I've ever met just cherry-picks what he finds comfortable and pleasurable, and I've never met two Christians who believe the same thing.
	I don't believe in mind-independent reality.
	So I think calling it any kind of uniform belief is a misnomer.
	Religion is more like a funhouse mirror that magnifies what you already like and makes it divine and absolute.
	Patrick Chapman, it's Mississism really.
	Adam Sanico, well, I identify as spiritual and not religious, so I see where you're coming from.
	Stefan, which is why people who are angry tend to believe in angry gods, and people who are peaceful tend to believe in peaceful gods, and so on.
	Adam Sanico, just curious, do you practice Buddhism?
	Stefan, I do not.
	Adam Sanico, ah.
	Stefan, I practice philosophy.
	Sterling Luhan, ROFL. Harrison Fishberg, Stefan, put it this way.
	You, me, these 55 people all roughly believe a similar path of philosophy.
	Suppose we all assume, screw it, voting is worthless, and we don't vote.
	What does that accomplish besides standing on our principles, which I am not putting down?
	Sterling Luhan, spoken like a true Westernist F. Adam Sanico, well, Buddhism is a philosophy to many.
	We are an example to others.
	We stand on our principles.
	Christopher Wolf Fill in your own blank.
	No wrong answers. Donations in the plate, please.
	Stirl in Lujan Buddhism is closer to a philosophy, actually.
	One Sebastian Ortiz, Steph, have you read The Steppenwolf by Herman Hesse?
	There's an interesting reference to the self-being as an onion-layered multiplicity quite akin to your mega-system idea.
	Harrison Fishberg isn't in the short run.
	It better to recognize that Dr.
	President Ron Paul is better to save the individuals in the geographic.
	Stefan, to not vote is to take a public stand against participating in an immoral and destructive system.
	Onim, we would save our energy for more worthwhile things, for one.
	David Bachman, we're living our values like they're true.
	Harrison Fishberg, right I understand that Stephen.
	Stephen, if you vote, you're saying that the system works in some kind of way.
	On him, like counter-economics.
	Adam Sanico, I know a lot of atheists who become yogi masters, if you bring up Buddhism and Hinduism.
	Stephan, and it just plain doesn't.
	Harrison Fishberg, right and I don't vote.
	Harrison Fishberg, I did donate to Ron Paul however, because I like him to get the libertarian message out and help bring people to the light that I and so many have found since then.
	Stephan, yes, people bring up the Hitler example like that some kind of argument for voting.
	Stephan, Sterlin Lujan, ROFL. Stefan, I mean, that crazy dude was voted in.
	One Sebastian Ortiz, donate to Stefan, not Ron Paul.
	Harrison Fishberg, Stefan, hear me about it.
	Paul Armbruster, Buddhism isn't even a religion.
	No gods per se.
	Sterlin Lujan, yeah, I saw that poster they made of you.
	Guess 322.
	Gods don't exist in any religion, though.
	Gods don't exist. Austerian Estin.
	Buddhism has presuppositional views of reality.
	Stefan. We already have the word philosophy.
	We don't need to add in the word Buddhism to be confusing.
	Harrison Fishberg, so Stefan, how many people can you estimate are in the philosophical movement called agorism slash anarcho-capitalism, etc., etc.?
	Juan Sebastian Ortiz, how many N-caps in the world do you think S-D-E-F? I think that we're in the hundreds of thousands who are in the philosophical movement called anarcho-capitalism or agorism.
	But that doesn't matter.
	The numbers don't matter at all.
	How does any definition of good not appeal to the transcendent?
	Well, if the numbers don't matter, what does?
	Christopher Wolf, I read a story of some POWs once.
	On thier birthday they were offered voice of a short sleeve or a launch sleeve.
	Short equals cut hand off at the wrist, long equals at the shoulder.
	Voting for who rules you is no different.
	Stefan, it doesn't matter how many of us there are, it only matters how inspiring each of us is, as an individual.
	Stefan, to take an extreme example from the other side, the Nazi party started with like five guys.
	Paul Armbruster, or anarcho-liberalism.
	So, it matters how inspiring each of us is.
	And Stefan, you are certainly up there with the most inspiring.
	I think there are more agorists slash anarcho-caps than we think.
	Most are more than likely in the Ron Paul movement.
	Juan Sebastian Ortiz, Steph, what sort of books do you recommend for eloquence of speech and good rhetoric?
	Stephen, real thank you.
	That certainly is my goal.
	How often I reach it is not really mine to decide.
	Harrison Fishberg, but even though you are one of the most inspiring, what does that do for us?
	Harrison Fishberg, for me?
	They're probably too afraid to admit because they fear how society would treat them.
	Well, you need to become inspiring.
	There's just no other way to do it.
	How does one claim the authority to define good for another?
	Stefan, you need to overcome whatever fears and resistance you have the standing large and tall and powerful in this world and directing lost and confused humanity to a better place.
	Stefan, I feel ridiculous and frightened at times, doing what I'm doing, and I certainly have faced my share of attacks in my day, but none of that really matters in the long run.
	Stephan, it is the future that is begging us to stand up.
	Harrison Fishberg, very much so, and I do in my own way, not to a scale that you represent but to my own personal small scale.
	Stephan, the world to come free of war, of debts, of taxation, of enslavement, of prisons, that is the world yearning to come into being.
	Stefan, and we are its only midwives.
	Keith O'Brien, well said Stefan.
	Harrison Fishberg, but again, I am curious, that world you are discussing right now.
	It would capitalism I feel, like standing up and clapping, such a great response Stefan.
	Sterling Luhan, EP. One Sebastian Ortiz, isn't Ron Paul an obstetrician?
	Harrison Fishburke, tell me honestly, the system breaks down, collapses.
	Harrison Fishburke, do you believe individuals are going to want freedom, in our sense, one more government?
	How do you stop it?
	Have a libertarian revolution every four years for the next, what, thirty?
	Stefan. Individuals just want to survive in the moment, to maximize resource consumption in the moment, and minimize resource expenditure.
	Georg Bosco, even the most nihilistic libertine mounts his soapbox and demands to the world, Thou shalt not say thou shalt not.
	Austrian Esten, it has to be far more fundamental than that.
	Stefan, and that is why governments are so dangerous.
	Juan Sebastian Ortiz, Steph, do you think this movement can do everything the hippie slash anti-war movement failed to do in the 60s?
	Adam Sanico, Stephen, what do you think of Max Reiner?
	I've been meaning to read Ego and his own.
	Stephen. Most people make up their moral mythologies to excuse their materialistic grabbing in the moment, always after the fact.
	Geoff Bosco, Steph, do you make a distinction between government and the state?
	Christopher Wolff, Libertarian is still population control, so Librefs can't end it.
	Stephen I do think that this movement can end war, because you cannot have war without the state, and in particular without central banks and fiat currency.
	Stefan, the hippies of the 1960s did not understand that, because they came from the left.
	Stefan, and so for them, government was the salvation.
	Paul Armbruster, you often reference your daughter as a reason for standing tall.
	But it's much more than that, right?
	You did it before she was born.
	So what made you go from fuck it, I'm just gonna get my two I must speak out.
	Stefan, not the axe on the neck of humanity.
	One Sebastian Ortiz.
	Steph, do you think that the South Carolina gold-slash-silver bill may pass across the map in the long run, once the dollar has collapsed?
	Stephen, that's a great question, Paul.
	C.J. Johnson, isn't it funny that headheads and fishheads practice anarcho-capitalism in order to follow those bends?
	I was interested in what Geoff was saying earlier.
	I came to that crossroad about a year ago.
	It was very difficult.
	I have always felt an enormous gratitude to the heroism of those who came before me to help to build the free market.
	And limited government at least to some degree and stand up against the medieval priesthood and build the kind of world that I could really love.
	Austerian asked in about how one individual can say what is good for another.
	Harrison Fishberg, CJ, I followed the remaining members of the dead around for two years, and I always thought it was hilarious that the lot scene, and such is purely free market, and they don't even recognize it.
	Stefan, and I suppose I just wanted to add my own stick to that eternal fire, so to speak.
	Juan Sebastian Ortiz, Steph, do you think you will ever retire from FDR? CJ Johnson, right?
	Stephan, pass the torch, I suppose.
	Oliver, you are good, sir, and doing damn well.
	Stephan, it's hard to accept a gift and then not want to pass it forward.
	Paul Armbruster, thanks.
	Juan Sebastian Ortiz, will you do this until you die?
	Stefan, yes. Juan Sebastian Ortiz.
	Stefan, I will never stop.
	Christopher Wolf, applause.
	Harrison Fishberg, Stefan, how about this question?
	Social ostracism?
	Adam Sanico, awesome!
	Harrison Fishberg, how many friends have you cut out of your life?
	Stefan, unfortunately, most of them, at least from about ten years ago.
	Stefan, but my new friends are much better.
	James Geyser, Man, sorry ain't late.
	Stefan, but enough about James.
	Harrison Fishberg, Stef, you obviously believe that individuals have a right to ingest what they want.
	Stefan, we should probably move on to another topic.
	Sterlin Luhan, hey Stefan, I got to roll and prepare for graduation on Saturday.
	Perhaps I'll call in on the Sunday show soon.
	Sterlin Luhan, fellow Liberty lovers, peace.
	Stefan. Fantastic.
	I look forward to talking with you.
	Harrison Fishberg.
	I must ask, do you find it morally repugnant for an individual to do cocaine?
	Stefan. Not morally, no.
	Harrison Fishberg.
	And if a friend was doing cocaine, would you reject him?
	Stefan. I feel great sympathy for people doing drugs.
	Christopher Wolf, my nine-years-old led me to ANCAP in four years.
	Lost most of my friends too.
	It is a form of self-medication for childhood trauma, at least according to the latest research.
	Harrison Fishberg, right?
	And it doesn't work, but it seems to work in the moment.
	Stefan, if I had a friend who was doing cocaine, I would try to get him or her into therapy and to deal with the issues that were driving the drug abuse.
	Harrison Fishberg, and if they didn't listen to you?
	Stefan, if he did not want to go and continue to do the drug, I think it would be pretty tough to stay friends.
	Juan Sebastian Ortiz, you think it might be possible to interview John Bradshaw before he kicks the can?
	CJ Johnson, Steph, you once compared having an infant to the slow detonation of a nuclear bomb on your social life.
	Has yours started coming back yet, and if so about when can I expect to get mine back?
	Guest 464, is there a relationship in your mind between UPB and universal prescriptivism?
	Harrison Fishberg, why would it be tough to stay friends?
	Stefan, because it is very painful to watch someone destroy himself, and that form of self-abuse very often spills over into abusing others.
	Harrison Fishberg, because of the self-destructive behavior?
	Or because of your incapacity to help him?
	Geof Bosco, Austrian, Austin, find me on YouTube or Twitter concherub.
	Harrison Fishberg, very true.
	Thank you again.
	I'll watch the combo unfold.
	Stefan, and really, I'm a parent with very little free time.
	Am I really got have a cocaine addict around my daughter?
	Stefan, as my daughter would say.
	Stefan, I think not.
	Harrison Fishberg.
	C.J. Johnson, I like that.
	Stefan, she's just too funny.
	Harrison Fishberg, you dumb man is TEF, you PB is the shit.
	Stefan, 28 months old.
	Adam Sanico, okay.
	I look capital is a man too cute.
	Paul Armbruster, Facebook.
	The circle of friends is mainly high school.
	I'm noticing, as I branch out, the old circle is slowly dying off.
	For some reason, it has gone from a little scary to exhilarating.
	Standing tall in the face of some any you know is not easy, yet Facebook allows it.
	It's just beginning to scratch the surface with connecting us.
	Feel free to friend request me.
	Adam Sanacook got to go.
	Adam Sanacook, peace to all of you.
	Stefan, we were playing grocery checkout today.
	Harrison Fishberg, later Adam.
	Stefan, and I offered her some coffee, and she said, Austrian asked in, Ian, is there a way to shoot PMs right now?
	Stefan. No dada, I'm too little to drink it.
	Juan Sebastian Ortiz, from what you have observed in your daughter, can you guess what sorts of professions slash jobs slash careers she like as an adult?
	Guess 322 lul.
	David Bachman, A.W.W.W. Harrison Fishberg, Stefan, are you in the NYC area anytime soon, besides Liberty Fest?
	Stefan, she is very outgoing, so I'm not sure.
	I think she might do something in the arts.
	She's incredibly imaginative.
	David Bachman, but you're not too little to make some from easy.
	Stefan, she's also very logical, so she'd be a pretty good lawyer, I think.
	Oliver, school or homeschooling?
	Stefan, H-A-H-A-Yuck.
	Stefan, private school, I think.
	Austrianest in Montessori, of course.
	Oliver, cool.
	Stefan, something like that, yes.
	Gigab, big bucks.
	CJ Johnson, child-directed at least.
	Christopher Wolf, great Montessori in N.H. Think of coming here to stay.
	One Sebastian Ortiz, what is your perspective on that possibility?
	Until I know of Steph Kinsella, I have to admit for the most part I was quite prejudiced and still am largely against lawyers slash attorneys.
	Paul Armbruster, she's a anarcho-liberal in the making, you know that's what will happen.
	Opposite Daddy. Patrick Chapman, I have real aversion of school.
	And find I hard to imagine myself sending my own kids to school.
	Should that be a question I ask myself in that regard perhaps?
	Stefan, H-A-H-A-Yuck.
	Ben Godwin, if you were to pursue home-located unschooling, would you do a tangent of your show on that topic?
	David Bachman, my son went to Montessori, the tuition was quite reasonable.
	Stefan, I'm certainly interested in unschooling.
	David Bachman, also star reasonable.
	Stefan, and I would keep everyone up to date on what was going on, if they were interested.
	Stefan, alright, I should probably stop soon.
	Did anyone have any last questions?
	Harrison Fishberg, Stefan, any books that you reread every year or so?
	One Sebastian Ortiz, do you think that as you become the master of the universe and dementia, you might need to do rather the opposite and safeguard your privacy?
	Stefan, no, although I used to read The Fountainhead every few years.
	Stefan, that's my favorite Rand book.
	C.J. Johnson, thanks, T.F. Harrison Fishberg, R.I.G.H. Dunn.
	Paul Armbruster, if CEOs were held personally liable, would it change a thing?
	Harrison Fishberg, and any future events planned other than Liberty Fest, specifically USA? Patrick Chapman, thanks, S.D.E.F. Goodnetter.
	Stefan, what needs to change is the monetary system as a whole.
	Geoff Bosco, did you discover Ren through Pear, as I did?
	Ben Godwin, I posted a guest a few minutes ago, and no need to answer here, but would you consider doing a show about the relationship between UPB and universal prescriptivism, if any?
	Illocapitalism just want to say thanks STEF, it's been great observing this chat.
	Paul Armbruster, in the current system, and thanks for the chat.
	Australian asked in, hey, Geoff.
	Australian asked in, I sent you a friend request on Facebook.
	Stefan, we need to get the government out of currency, that will change everything in society, from top to bottom.
	Geof Bosco, cool.
	Austerian asked in, hope you don't mind.
	Ilot Kapitalism and the Fed.
	Geof Bosco, no I see you are a Christian, as I am.
	One Sebastian Ortiz, do you think that will happen in our lifetime?
	Harrison Fischberg, and any future events planned other than Liberty Fest?
	Specifically USA? Stefan, indeed, but they're not going to give up that power without a fight.
	Christopher Wolf and the Feds CJ Johnson Stefan, I'm going to be speaking at the Porcupine Freedom Festival.
	I recognized you immediately when you asked the goodness question.
	Juan Sebastian Ortiz, do you think they will drop the monopoly on currency within our lifetime?
	Stefan, and then I will be in New York, of course, in September.
	Harrison Fischberg, okay?
	Austrian asked in, are you a presuppositionalist Calvinist, by any chance?
	Ian Chiaffi. Stefan, And then in October, I will be speaking, and also be the master of ceremonies at Libertopia in San Diego.
	Stefan, which should be a lot of fun.
	Harrison Fishburg, hang in there man, keep it up and don't let it bring you down.
	It's only castles burning.
	Find someone who's turning, and you will come around.
	Patrick Chapman, hopefully with better weather.
	Stephan, a great quote, thank you.
	Harrison Fishberg, thank you Stephan, as always, very appreciated.
	Inchiafi, libertifestnik.ivanbright.com Liberty Fest NYC September 10, 2011, PatriotPoles.com,ivanbright.
	Paul Arm Brewster, why is the South Dakota event so expensive?
	It really is over the top.
	Stefan, oh man, it's going to be raining for the next five days up here.
	Juan Sebastian Ortiz, it's going to be raining for the next six months here.
	Stefan, you have to ask the organizers, it's certainly not, because they're paying me a fortune.
	Sawarstugachduin. Never heard of you before.
	Sorry, just saw the link on one of Paul's websites.
	Gigib. Thank you, Stefan, for doing this Q&A on the Liberty Fest website.
	Geoff Bosco.
	Yes, to the first I like some of Calvin, but wouldn't go so far as to call myself a Calvinist.
	Paul Armbruster, good to know.
	Will do. I'd love to go.
	Uh, okay.
	Stefan, my pleasure.
	Thank you so much.
	You guys had some truly wonderful questions.
	I love libertarians.
	You all are so damn brilliant.
	You're pretty good at minesweeper.
	Gigab, we look forward to seeing you on September 10, 2011.
	Juan Sebastian Ortiz, thank you, Steph.
	Good night. Australian Austin, thank you, Steph.
	I hope you come again.
	In Chiafie, Stephan will be speaking at Liberty Fest NYC September 10, 2011.
	Tickets on sale now.
	Liberty Fest NYC September 10, 2011.
	PatriotPoles.com Eventbrite.
	Stefan, and thanks to Ian for the invitation.
	Christopher Wolf, Sayoros.
	Freedomainradio.com.
	Check it.
	Geoff Bosco, top 500 in the world.
	Ian Chiaffi, thanks for coming Stefan.
	Paul Armbruster, has to lasagna, don't get any on YA. Stefan, my pleasure, thanks everyone, have a great night.

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