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Jan. 11, 2022 - Skeptoid
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Skeptoid #814: Nazis and the Occult

Popular tales of the occult underpinnings of the Nazis are largely modern fiction. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

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Unmasking Nazi Occult Myths 00:10:13
Skeptoid is all about finding the truth behind urban legends because you learn best from history if you know the true version of it.
Nowhere is this more important than with the history of Nazi Germany and with the big urban legend about them that nearly everyone has heard and believes in, that they were devoted occultists, driven by quasi-religious beliefs and bizarre rituals.
That's coming up next on Skeptoid.
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Nazis and the Occult Turn on the television and you won't have to wait long before a show comes up purporting to be a documentary of the deep occult roots of Hitler and the Nazis.
It seems to be a perfect explanation for how a group of human beings could be so cruel.
Only the dark influence of demonic powers and religious extremism could explain something as unspeakable as the Holocaust.
The idea of Nazi occultism has been shoved down our throats so many times that many of us simply accept it as historical fact.
But today we're going to take a step back from that assumption and see what the facts of the matter are.
From the History Channel's website, Adolf Hitler was deeply into the occult and even established a Nazi organization called the Anonerbe with a secret mission to track down and confiscate holy relics.
And this from 1981's Raiders of the Lost Ark, where the actor who played Porkins in Star Wars tells Indiana Jones, Over the last two years, the Nazis have had teams of archaeologists running around the world looking for all kinds of religious artifacts.
Hitler's a nut on the subject.
He's crazy.
He's obsessed with the occult.
Search YouTube for Nazi occult and you'll find countless videos from slick professional-looking documentaries all the way to amateur productions with titles such as SS Death's Head Rings and the Nazi Occult Obsession, Occult History of the Third Reich, Hitler's Monsters, a Supernatural History of the Third Reich, and Nazi Quest for the Holy Grail.
Do the same search in the book section of Amazon.com and you'll find titles such as Unholy Alliance, A History of Nazi Involvement with the Occult, Nazi Secrets, an Occult Breach in the Fabric of History, The Nazi Occult War, Hitler's Compact with the Forces of Evil, The Nazis and the Supernatural, The Occult Secrets of Hitler's Evil Empire, and Gods and Beasts, The Nazis and the Occult.
All of television's pseudoscience and pseudo-history channels have been in on this game for a long time.
National Geographic made Hitler's Supernatural Rise to Power.
Smithsonian Channel has Where is the Nazi Temple of Doom?
History Channel has been beating this drum for years with shows like Hitler and the Occult and quite a few episodes of Ancient Aliens.
Without a doubt, people are obsessed with the idea that the Nazis were occultists, drawing on all kinds of dark powers, and the media is quick to react by providing endless volumes of content to satisfy that obsession.
And so, being of a skeptical mindset, our job is to determine whether any of that is true.
Was Nazism truly driven by secret occult stimuli?
Or is this all just more of the familiar old trick of authors and TV producers trying to shock and sensationalize?
To find out, we're going to turn as our primary source to the 1985 book, The Occult Roots of Nazism, Secret Aryan Cults and Their Influence on Nazi Ideology, by the late professor of Western esotericism at the University of Exeter, Nicholas Goodrich Clark.
He was a founding member of the European Society for the Study of Western Esotericism, and if you got all the world's academics on the subject into a room and had them vote on who was the most influential author and most knowledgeable expert on the Nazis and their origins, Gudric Clark would almost certainly win.
Concerning the title of his book, The Occult Roots of Nazism, I caution you to take heed of the following line from a review published in the English Historical Review.
One should not be deceived by the title into thinking that it belongs to the modern mythology of Nazi occultism, a world of salacious fantasy convincingly dismembered by the author in an appendix.
Intriguing.
So let's have a look at that appendix.
It's the last of five appendices that follow a long and dense, but exhaustively thorough read, following every thread and leaving no stone unturned.
The appendix opens with the following salvo.
There is a persistent idea, widely canvassed in a sensational genre of literature, that the Nazis were principally inspired and directed by occult agencies from 1920 to 1945.
This mythology does not owe its origin to Areosophy, but to a post-war fascination with Nazism.
He notes all the elements of the Nazi story that make it a magnet for macabre fiction.
The horrors of the concentration camps and the Holocaust, the suicides of Nazi leaders at the close of the war, today's characterization of Nazism as monstrous and forbidden, and how mystical occult powers offer an explanation for a regime so horrific that it seems there's no way it could have come about through mere earthly means.
An occult underpinning for Nazism satisfies our need to comprehend something so repugnant.
Gudric Clark brings his book to a close with what might be called a rant.
Books written about Nazi occultism between 1960 and 1975 were typically sensational and under-researched.
A complete ignorance of the primary sources was common to most authors, and inaccuracies and wild claims were repeated by each newcomer to the genre until an abundant literature existed, based on wholly spurious, quote, facts concerning the powerful Thule Society, the Nazi links with the East, and Hitler's occult initiation.
But the modern mythology of Nazi occultism, however scurrilous and absurd, exercised a fascination beyond mere entertainment.
The majority of Nazi occult mythology consists of apocryphal stories about Hitler himself, particularly as a boy, and about a number of prominent figures in pre-war occultism.
These stories are often about who met with who, who was a member of which secret society, who passed along mystical secrets to who.
Goodrich Clark does go into many of these, there are far more than I could keep track of, and generally proved each to be entirely without evidence, grossly exaggerated or misrepresented, and in many cases, outright fabricated by various authors.
So it would be easy to conclude that the link between the Nazis and the occult is completely fictional.
But it's not.
It's just all of those things, grossly exaggerated and misrepresented.
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Fact vs Fiction in History 00:06:29
At its core, Nazism was a far-right ideology, and every culture on every continent has its own far-right element.
Always has, always will.
These are characterized by ideas such as ultra-nationalism, authoritarianism, xenophobia, and nativism.
Although we typically associate these ideas with the Nazis, they are what defines all far-right groups, and so we should expect to see similar underlying belief systems.
One of these is belief in a God-given right to rule.
This was present in the early days of the rise of populism in pre-Nazi Germany.
It was in the form of what we now call Areosophy, which literally means Aryan wisdom.
The two most central figures in the rise of this ideology were the Austrians Guido von Liest , an occult writer, and Jürg Lans von Liebenfels , a former monk and prominent anti-Semitic writer.
Various Aryosophical ideologies spread throughout Austria and Germany in the late 1800s and early 1900s, a period called the modern German occult revival, spawning groups such as the Thule Society, which began in Munich at the end of World War I.
The Thule Society's brief life was an influential one.
The Nazi swastika was adapted from the Thule Society's emblem.
They published a newspaper, which later became the main newspaper for the Nazi Party.
And most importantly, they organized the political party, which later was reorganized by Hitler into the Nazi Party.
Two men who later became Nazi leaders, Hans Frank and Rudolf Hess, had been members of the Thule Society.
Given these connections, many authors seized upon the Thule Society and framed it as the principal bridge that connected the Nazis to the occult.
Many authors have falsely named nearly every Nazi official as having been a member, even Hitler himself.
In fact, the Thule Society was quite weird.
It drew its name from a non-existent landmass in the far north, which they believed was the ancestral home of the Aryan race.
Members were required to swear they had no Jewish or, quote, colored lineage.
Functionally, the society was concerned mainly with racial purity and white nationalism, but one of its tenets was devotion to a Trinity version of the Germanic god Odin.
Hitler's only proven connection to the Thule Society was that it was he himself who severed the Nazi Party's ties with the group in 1920, which then fell into decline and was gone by 1925.
Then in 1935, Hitler used the new anti-Masonic laws to finally close down the rest of the occult and esoteric groups like the Thule Society had been.
The only group he wanted good Nazis to belong to was the Nazi Party.
Willie Lei, who escaped Nazi Germany before the war and came to the United States, was an author who documented some of the strange beliefs that had found some traction in Nazi Germany.
He wrote of the many secret societies, of the mysterious spiritual energy source called Vril, the hollow earth theory, and a variety of other alternate sciences.
Such beliefs are common in far-right communities.
Witness the wide range of false beliefs held by many in the American alt-right today.
But combined with the success and brutality of the Third Reich, they took on more significance to writers than they might otherwise have been due.
One very influential book was Morning of the Magicians by French journalists Louis Poelse and Jacques Bergier.
It's a wide-ranging trip through all manner of pseudo-history and metaphysical nonsense and devotes one section to promoting and exaggerating the idea of Nazi occultism, using Ville Lei as a springboard.
Poels and Bergier introduced many of the false stories about Hitler as a boy and machinations among the Thule Society and the Nazi Party, a tradition that many writers who followed continued building upon.
The mythology-promoting authors have also made much of a 1938 Nazi expedition to Tibet, making various claims around the idea that it was to establish ties between Nazi occultism and Eastern mysticism.
This entire branch of the mythology is complete nonsense.
There was indeed such an expedition.
It was the third scientific expedition made by the perfectly legitimate German naturalist Ernst Schaefer.
His first two trips had come to the attention of Heinrich Himmler, probably the weirdest Nazi official, best known as the primary architect of the Holocaust and for his obsessions with racial purity and mysticism.
Himmler had established an office called Anenerbe, which was charged with, essentially, scientific research proving the superiority of the Aryan race, as well as any pet pseudosciences Himmler came across.
One of these was an absurd alternate cosmology called glacial cosmogeny, and Himmler decided that it should be the focus of Schaefer's next expedition.
Schaefer and his team were required to all join the SS, and the expedition was rebranded as an Onanerba project.
Fortunately, to Schaefer's credit, they did the normal botanical, zoological, and anthropological research they had planned and ignored Himmler's silly instructions.
Claims that the expedition established a mystical connection between the Nazis and the Tibetans, or whatever, are pure fiction.
Like all members of all groups, Nazi leaders were products of their backgrounds and surroundings.
Many grew up amid the modern German occult revival period, and many retained beliefs they may have adopted during that period.
So we would expect that occult beliefs were found among Nazi leaders about as often as among the German population at large.
Fanatics, such as Himmler, were no more common than our fanatics today, but they certainly existed.
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