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Aug. 17, 2021 - Skeptoid
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Skeptoid #793: Your Turn Yet Again

Skeptoid gives our take on some spooky experiences sent in by listeners. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

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Bizarre Events Closer to Home 00:09:19
On Skeptoid, we're always digging into the true science and true history behind some of the weird phenomena that a lot of people believe in.
But sometimes, bizarre events happen closer to home.
Today, we're going to examine some of your own personal, strangest experiences to see if we can find a science-based explanation.
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Your turn yet again.
Today we have the second part in our roundup of listener stories, where you send in a story telling of the weirdest, most unexplainable thing that's ever happened to you.
And I take my best crack at explaining what I think might have happened.
Am I right?
Maybe, but probably not.
But at least I hope to stimulate some thought, or maybe together we can think of a possible explanation that either one of us alone might not have considered.
Today we've got six stories sent in by premium members, ranging from some weird UFO stories to a ghostly remembrance of a horse who never was.
But we're going to get started with this creepy tale from listener Keith.
The ghost the dog saw When I was 13, I was home alone with only my dog, Jesse the border collie.
I heard this noise come from my parents' bedroom on the other side of the house.
It sent literal shivers down my spine and gave me goosebumps.
It was loud and did not stop straight away.
Jesse took off towards the noise in my parents' room, barking as I'd never seen her before.
By the time I got to Jesse, she was already in the room.
I stood just back from the door.
Jesse then yelped like she heard herself, backed out of the room, showing her heckles like she was about to attack.
I peered into the doorway of the bedroom and seen nothing.
There's a combination of things that lead us to conclude our dog is on the trail of some ghost in the house.
It's much more common than you might think, and believe it or not, dogs act like this even when there isn't a ghost.
We all know that dogs have much more sensitive hearing and smelling than we do, and it's often something like an insect or a mouse, often behind a wall or in a ceiling, that initially grabs the dog's attention, which is why they look up at the wall where there's nothing for us to see.
But it's what happens next that really triggers the dog's behavior, and that's our human reaction to their guarded behavior.
We might lean forward, stand up, go on alert, and say something like, what's that?
What do you see?
Is there something there?
In a tone of voice that suggests danger to the dog.
They are extremely attuned to their master's behavior.
And when we act like there's a threat, they go into maximum threat detection mode.
The barking, the hackles, the chasing of something invisible through the house.
These are all absolutely consistent with how we expect a dog to react to a mysterious sound or smell, coupled with a person's alert and on-guard reaction.
Next, we have some silvery and possibly alien visitors who intrigued listener Alex.
The elusive aliens.
I was in the car with my grandmother and I looked over this empty field behind it and there were a couple of, I guess you could call them unidentified flying objects.
They were spherical, silver-colored, and I couldn't judge their distance or altitude or size or anything because of no frame of reference, but they didn't seem that far away.
I think they were roughly vertical when I first saw them and then they moved a bit and they seemed like roughly horizontal and then, well, then they were out of height because I couldn't persuade my grandmother to stop and pull over.
I really didn't know what they were, but you know, I was a little worked up into, you know, the literature of UFOs at the time, so it kind of excited me.
By now, you probably know what I'm going to say to this one.
I wasn't there and can't possibly have any idea what you saw.
You didn't say how long ago this was, so I wonder if this was something that happened when you were really young and how much your memory of it may be colored by your interest in UFO literature.
I'd love to have photos or descriptions given by other people who saw it, with those interviews having been taken immediately after the sighting.
But we don't have any of that, so I can't do much except shrug my shoulders and say that I wish we did.
But I also don't want to leave it there.
Fortunately, listener Brad sent in a story of his own that I think might cast some light on yours.
Spaceships Near and Far In late summer 2019, I went for a swim at my local health club's outdoor pool.
As I was looking up, I spotted a UFO several thousand meters in the sky.
It was bulbous in shape with a long tail.
After several minutes, I concluded it must be an errant weather balloon that had drifted dangerously close to Toronto Airport's main flight path.
Remember how I often point out that there's no way for an observer to accurately judge the distance of an object in the sky?
It's nothing to do with experience or training.
It's to do with geometry.
Without some triangulation, no observer has any way to visually judge the distance of any UFO in the sky.
None.
Let's let Brad continue.
Turned out, I was completely wrong.
As I continued to look up, I noticed that the pool had transparent string right across the entire length of it.
Right where my UFO was, right where my weather balloon was, I saw a knot with a ball of string.
As it turned out, my weather balloon, several thousand meters up, was about two and a half meters away from where I was floating.
This surprising but not surprising explanation of Brad's story may apply to Alex's as well.
How far away were those silver balloons that were lining up vertically and horizontally?
Were they really right over that field?
Or much farther away?
Or much closer?
Heck, I once watched a UFO for five minutes through the window of a bus before I realized it was a reflection on the glass from a light behind me.
Our human perceptions are pretty good.
In fact, they're great, but they're not infallible, and we get fooled by them all the time.
If what you're seeing seems to be extraordinary, always check the possibility for perceptual error.
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False Childhood Memories Explained 00:04:01
Next up, listener Glenn Wagner seems to have something wrong with his memory.
The horse who wasn't.
I remember an incredible amount of detail about horseback riding as a kid with my family.
I can remember the horses my brother and I both rode, including their names.
I remember specific events that happened along the trail ride.
However, my parents and siblings don't share this memory.
The really interesting thing is that we all have some early childhood memory that's almost certainly false.
There are all kinds of memory effects that have been documented and replicated in a research setting.
False memories can and do arise from all sorts of influences, even as simple as something you saw on TV when you were very young.
But suppose you became so obsessed with your horse riding memory that you made life decisions based on it, especially bad decisions like quitting your job and stealing horses trying to relive the glory days.
Then it becomes what we call false memory syndrome, where you can no longer keep those memories in a healthy context.
Next, listener Bruno reports that he used to have a weird ability.
A most useless prognosticator.
Whenever something with an uncertain result was going to happen, like say a big presentation at work or something with the kids, I used to imagine an outcome.
That specific outcome never realized.
It was always different.
It was even like an inverse prediction.
At one point, I was even gaming on this ability, like imagining something bad happening, which of course didn't realize.
It's also true that if you bet on a single number in roulette, you're going to be wrong 97.4% of the time.
Those are pretty terrible odds.
The same concept applies to anything in life, which has a large number of possible outcomes.
One time I had a bet with someone who said the Welcome Back Cotter theme song was sung by Randy Newman, and I bet that it was anyone else.
Well, who had the better odds of winning?
Obviously, I did, and I did win.
We looked it up, and it was sung by John Sebastian.
This is exactly what Bruno did.
He imagined one outcome, and then his reverse prediction, as he called it, caused him to win almost every single bet.
It's not extraordinary, because there are many outcomes.
If this was flipping a coin, Bruno would have been wrong 50% of the time.
But something like a presentation at work, it doesn't have just two outcomes, goes well or goes badly.
Both of those are vague, and there are many possible outcomes that aren't an unambiguous match for either.
Finally, today, listener Mike has a neighbor with unusual criteria for deciding whether and when to move.
George Washington, Realtor.
I live in a nice semi-gated community in St. George, Utah, and I was talking with my neighbor, and we got to talking about how they decided to buy their house here in this community.
He woke up one night in a dream.
He was told in the dream, George Washington.
As he analyzed the dream, he realized that that meant that he should move to Washington, Utah.
The funny part is when he picked this house, after he picked it, he was looking around at one of the upstairs bedrooms, and he claims that there is an etching in the window of one of the upstairs bedrooms of George Washington.
Watch Out for Ghosts and Aliens 00:04:00
Was this just some wild coincidence?
I'm not convinced it was even that.
I did ask Mike some follow-up questions via email, and he confirmed that all he has is the neighbor's verbal report of an etching of George Washington.
He didn't see it.
So while that might make most of us assume it was a clearly rendered, professionally made portrait of George Washington's face, I think that's an unwarranted leap.
As far as we know, this could be nothing more than a smudge of white scale in the corner of the glass window that the neighbor thinks looks a little like George Washington.
If he'd dreamed of George Burns instead, maybe the smudge would have looked like George Burns to him.
Of course, in that case, he'd have moved from St. George, Utah to Burns, Oregon.
It's basically Jesus in the grilled cheese sandwich, or Virgin Mary in the mildew under the overpass.
We all see whatever we expect to see.
So do I think this was an extraordinary coincidence?
Not yet, because we don't have enough information to support that any coincidence took place.
Remember the words of Hyman's categorical imperative.
Do not try to explain something until you are sure there is something to be explained.
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