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June 15, 2010 - Skeptoid
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Skeptoid #210: The North American Union

The United States, Canada, and Mexico are not planning to merge into a single huge police state. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

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Grand New World Orders 00:03:37
Every so often, conspiracy theorists point to some grand new world order of one type or another that they believe is about to be imposed upon the world.
The North American Union is one of these, an alleged unification of Canada, the United States, and Mexico that some people believe is already being put into place.
A giant police state in which the population will be enslaved pawns serving the whims of the ultra-elite.
The North American Union is up next on Skeptoid.
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The North American Union.
Today we're going to put on our cheap suits, stick earpieces in, and join the legions of multinational Secret Service agents flowing out among the populace of Canada, the United States, and Mexico as the borders disappear and we round up a unified population into forced socialism under martial law in our gigantic new pan-continental police state.
Some believers say this takeover is actually already underway.
Others reckon the plans are still being laid, but few believers doubt that it's in the works.
The ultimate goal, according to the rumors, is for the few elite in the new government to enjoy unprecedented power, control, and profit over a new, supermassive megastate at the expense of half a billion workers forced into socialized labor.
This new police megastate will be called the North American Union, or NAU.
One common theme in the conspiracy rumor is that anytime something bad happens for real, it's generally viewed by the believers as a deliberate attack by the American government upon its own people as part of this active ongoing process.
9-11 is the most obvious example.
The conspiracy community believes nearly absolutely that 9-11 was perpetrated by the government in part as an excuse to increase domestic control in preparation for the NAU takeover.
When Hurricane Katrina killed over 1,800 people in 2005, some in the conspiracy community took it as an actual practice exercise by FEMA to round up thousands of young men and execute them in the swamp.
Amero vs Euro Problems 00:05:09
Even the 2010 explosion of the oil-rigged Deepwater Horizon and subsequent oil spill was described by some as a deliberate attack, with the dual goals of damaging the local economies and reaping huge profits for the government insiders through stock manipulation.
One piece of evidence the believers claim proves that the NAU takeover is underway is a new monetary unit to replace the dollar called the Amero, obviously patterned after the Euro used in the European Union.
It should be stressed at this point that all known examples of actual Amero bills or coins have been proven to be hoaxes.
There's no such thing, so far as we know, as actual Amero currency.
But conspiracy theorists can be well excused for suspecting that an Amero is in the works.
After all, the Euro certainly became a reality in Europe.
Therefore, the Amero might well happen here.
However, comparisons between the Amero and the Euro, or the North American Union and the European Union, do not hold much water.
The Euro was first planned as a solution to a number of problems unique to Europe, where there were many small countries who necessarily had to do large amounts of business among one another, but with all their own separately fluctuating currencies, there were all sorts of problems.
Foreign investment was unnecessarily complicated and troublesome.
Exchange was inefficient and costly.
Interest rates were unpredictable, and various inflation rates made every transaction a shot in the dark.
When the Euro was introduced, participating countries had to meet certain requirements of stability.
Since its introduction, studies have found that it was tremendously successful in addressing the problems.
As of 2006, the European Central Bank estimated that the Euro increased trade among member nations by 5-10%, and later estimates show that this trend has only continued to improve.
North American countries, by contrast, do not have anywhere near the currency-related problems that Europe faced before the Euro.
We simply don't have an unmanageable number of international transactions suffering from fluctuating exchange rates and expensive conversions.
Mexico suffered these problems historically, but when the North American Free Trade Agreement was signed in 1994, it had a rocky start, but followed by a hugely stabilizing effect on Mexico's economy, and ever since, their problems have been largely mitigated.
Arguably, NAFTA has addressed many of the issues for North Americans that Europeans solved with the Euro.
We just had those problems on a far smaller scale, and so our fix was correspondingly less drastic.
But that doesn't mean nobody's ever proposed an Amero.
There's been talk of it for a long time, mainly from a small number of Canadian economists.
Quebec is one faction in North America that would actually benefit from an Amero, and Mexico is probably the other.
But since the United States and the majority of Canada would not, the Amero is unlikely to ever proceed beyond the ruminations of these few authors.
In the real world, the introduction of an Amero would probably have real benefits for a few, but none for the majority.
Historically, the Amero's proponents have been Quebec and Mexico.
Quebec's perspective is an interesting one.
They have a certain degree of French-Canadian nationalism, and being part of Canada and tied to its currency rubs this nationalism the wrong way.
If they shared an Amero with everyone else in North America, it would make them less dependent on Canada economically and freer to trade directly with the United States.
Former Mexican President Vicente Fox expressed his desire for the Amero openly, on multiple occasions, as a natural follow-up to NAFTA.
Such economic unions often confer more benefit upon those at the bottom of the food chain than those at the top.
Mexico would benefit from increased stability, while Canada and the United States would lose control of their own inflation and interest rates.
Canadian professor of economics Herb Grubel wrote a 1999 paper for the Canadian think tank, the Fraser Institute, called The Case for the Amero.
But in it, he admitted that his arguments were probably less important to the governments of Canada and the United States than the need to maintain control over their own monetary independence.
The other most significant proponent has been Dr. Robert Pastor, professor of political science and former national security advisor under President Jimmy Carter.
In his 2001 book, Toward a North American Community, he pointed out the benefits of an Amero for Latin America, but failed to convince very many people that it had any benefits for the United States.
Skeptoid Files on North America 00:06:29
He did admit in the book that an Amero was unlikely to happen, and has said that he absolutely does not support a North American Union.
So with academic and economic expertise in agreement that neither a North American Union nor even a Nomero make much sense, what support remains?
Well, unfortunately, it's really just of the conspiracy theory variety, drawing its evidence from misinterpretations and exaggerations of actual events.
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One such actual event feeding the conspiracy theory is a group formed by businessmen and academics from Canada, the United States, and Mexico called the Independent Task Force on North America.
It's sponsored by non-profit think tanks from all three nations.
Created in 2004 in a post-9-11, post-NAFTA world, it advocates closer economic and security cooperation among the three nations.
Generally, all good ideas.
They do not advocate either a Nomero or a North American Union.
All of their reports are freely available, and there's no secrecy attached to anything they do.
Nevertheless, some conspiracy theorists consider their existence to be proof that the North American Union is already happening.
A similar but more official group was called the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America, formed in 2005 by Vicente Fox, George W. Bush, and Paul Martin, who met for dialogue for essentially these same purposes, and was active through 2009.
It included no treaties or agreements.
The U.S. website for the SPP says in its Myth vs. Fact section, The SPP seeks to make the United States, Canada, and Mexico open to legitimate trade and closed to terrorism and crime.
It does not change our courts or legislative processes and respects the sovereignty of the United States, Mexico, and Canada.
The SPP in no way, shape, or form considers the creation of a European Union-like structure or a common currency.
But nevertheless, you can say this up and down and standing on your head.
The die-hard conspiracy theorists dismiss such a statement as just another part of the cover-up.
Notably, in June of 2006, CNN anchor Lou Dobbs described the SPP on the air as an agreement, which it wasn't, to actually form the North American Union without the consent of Congress, which it didn't.
The Bush administration is pushing head with a plan to create a North American union with Canada and Mexico.
You haven't heard about that?
Well, that's because Congress hasn't been consulted, nor the American people.
Dobbs is not the only one.
Believers all across the internet say, hey, it happened in Europe, it can happen here in North America.
The European Union is indeed a reality.
So by that example, it's plausible that a North American Union could happen as well.
Right?
The European Union is actually not a real-world precedent for what the North American Union is believed to be.
The EU is primarily an economic union.
All the member nations in the EU are still sovereign nations, holding their own independent elections and issuing their own passports, and no European citizens are being forced into labor camps or executed by the millions.
Conversely, the claims about the North American Union had the United States, Canada, and Mexico merged into a single police state characterized by brutality and forced socialism.
The former Soviet Union would be a closer precedent, but still not a very good one.
It was a police state characterized by brutality and forced socialism, but there are two very important points to heed.
First, the Soviet Union was the result of a popular uprising by the people, the Russian Revolution.
It was not a secret takeover by hidden Illuminati intent on deceiving the masses.
The Bolsheviks were a majority party, and there was nothing secret about them.
Second, the Soviet Union didn't last, and remains a dramatic example of why such a union is a bad idea for everyone, not just for the people, but for everyone hoping to benefit from it.
Like all conspiracy theories that claim to predict future events, the North American Union requires reliance on supposition and irrational dismissal of evidence.
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