Skeptoid - Skeptoid #86: MonaVie and Other "Superfruit" Juices Aired: 2008-02-05 Duration: 16:06 === Superfruit Juice Claims Examined (06:28) === [00:00:03] Hardly any supplement department in the grocery store is free of so-called superfruit juices. [00:00:10] Expensive fruit drinks that claim to confer some kind of super health or nebulous detoxification. [00:00:18] Today we're going to have a look at some of their claims and at the true nutritional science behind superfruit juices. [00:00:25] Are they really worth up to 20 times the price of others? [00:00:30] Mona V is coming up right now on Skeptoid. [00:00:38] Hi, I'm Alex Goldman. [00:00:40] You may know me as the host of Reply All, but I'm done with that. [00:00:44] I'm doing something else now. [00:00:46] I've started a new podcast called Hyperfixed. [00:00:48] On every episode of Hyperfixed, listeners write in with their problems and I try to solve them. 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[00:01:54] After all, these superfruit juices have only been available for a few years and it's not like everybody was always sick throughout human history until they came on the market. [00:02:03] Plus, this was right around the new year, the height of the cold and flu season, and lots of people were sick. [00:02:09] I wanted to know if it was really true that simply changing your morning beverage was the miracle cure to the common cold. [00:02:18] There are many of these superfruit juices for sale, and lots of them, like Mona V, are sold through Amway-style multi-level marketing schemes. [00:02:27] You've probably heard the question asked, if you can make a better hamburger than McDonald's. [00:02:31] Yes, of course you can. [00:02:33] But can you build a better business than McDonald's? [00:02:36] No, it's not about the hamburgers. [00:02:39] McDonald's is not in the food business. [00:02:41] They're in the real estate business. [00:02:44] This same concept, at least at face value, appears to apply to Mona V and its ilk. [00:02:49] They are not in the fruit juice business. [00:02:52] They are in the multi-level marketing business. [00:02:54] Their product, like the Big Mac, is secondary to their business model. [00:02:59] But let us not make a leap of logic and conclude that superfruit juices are the chicken McNugget of fruit juice. [00:03:05] Let's give them the benefit of the doubt and listen to their specific claims. [00:03:11] Superfruit juices all build their claims about their product on the same central idea. [00:03:16] They contain large amounts of antioxidants, which fight the free radicals that cause aging. [00:03:22] This is skeptoid, so we're not going to blindly accept that without analysis. [00:03:27] First, what really does cause aging? [00:03:30] What the heck is a free radical? [00:03:32] How is it affected by an antioxidant and what the heck is an antioxidant? [00:03:37] And significantly, do superfruit juices really contain beneficial levels of antioxidants? [00:03:45] With apologies to my Facebook friend, I didn't find any claims that these superfruit juices protect you from catching a cold. [00:03:52] So save your $40 to $50 a week if that's your goal. [00:03:56] Free radicals are complicated. [00:03:59] The 25 cent definition is an oxygen-containing molecule with an unpaired electron that allows it to easily form a covalent bond with one of your good molecules, thus oxidizing it. [00:04:11] This is one way that cells can be attacked, and this effect can and does lead to a number of age-related diseases. [00:04:19] At first glance, this makes the role of antioxidants obvious. [00:04:23] Eliminate those oxidizing molecules and help prevent age-related diseases, right? [00:04:29] Well, I'm sorry to say, not so fast. [00:04:32] Human biochemistry is not as simple as the linguistic dichotomy of oxidation versus antioxidant. [00:04:40] It's extraordinarily complex. [00:04:43] The oxidation from free radicals also has important benefits to the body, converting fat into energy and attacking bacteria just for a start. [00:04:53] Fighting disease consumes a huge portion of the scientific and medical budgets in the world, so a tremendous amount of research has been done into antioxidants. [00:05:03] What these tests have found, overall, is that a certain amount of antioxidants is good, but too much is bad. [00:05:11] But more significantly, the source of the antioxidants seems to have more importance than the amount. [00:05:17] The primary phytochemicals that deliver antioxidants to the body are vitamin C, vitamin E, and beta-carotene. [00:05:26] For the superfruit juices to fulfill their claims, they must therefore contain large amounts of these vitamins. [00:05:32] The American Heart Association evaluated five studies of such superfruit juices for their efficacy in preventing cardiovascular disease, which is the main health claim about antioxidants. [00:05:44] Of the five, two showed no effects and three showed negative effects. [00:05:51] Dr. Stephen Barrett sums it up quite aptly in an article about antioxidants, which also lists this and many other clinical trials if you want to see for yourself. [00:06:01] There is widespread scientific agreement that eating adequate amounts of fruits and vegetables can help lower the incidence of cardiovascular disease and certain cancers. [00:06:11] With respect to antioxidants and other phytochemicals, the key question is whether supplementation has been proven to do more good than harm. [00:06:20] So far the answer is no, which is why the FDA will not permit any of these substances to be labeled or marketed with claims that they can prevent disease. === FDA Bans Disease Prevention Labels (02:45) === [00:06:32] So now let's move on to our final question. [00:06:34] Do these superfruit juices really contain significant amounts of antioxidants? [00:06:40] They better because they base their entire marketing campaign around this claim specifically. [00:06:47] Choice, the publication of the Australian Consumers Association, undertook a major study to answer this question in 2007. [00:06:56] They bought virtually every superfruit juice that's commercially available. [00:07:00] In their labs, they tested all of them for their total antioxidant capacity using the Oxygen Radical Absorbance Capacity Assay test, laying out their methodology in detail, which you'll notice the promoters of these products never do. [00:07:15] As a baseline, CHOICE measured the total antioxidant capacity, or TAC, of a common apple, a red delicious apple, to be precise, and got a reading of 5,900. [00:07:27] This number was then compared to the TAC measured from a daily serving of each superfruit juice. [00:07:37] Hey everyone, I want to remind you about a truly unique and once-in-a-lifetime adventure. [00:07:44] Join me and Mediterranean archaeologist Dr. Flint Dibble for a skeptoid sailing adventure through the Mediterranean Sea aboard the SV Royal Clipper, the world's largest full-rigged sailing ship. [00:07:57] This is also the only opportunity you'll have to hear Flint and I talk about our experiences when we both went on Joe Rogan to represent the causes of science and reality against whatever it is that you get when you're thrown into that lion pit. [00:08:11] We set sail from Málaga, Spain on April 18th, 2026 and finished the adventure in Nice, France on April 25th. 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[00:09:08] That's skeptoid.com slash adventures. === Truth About Goji and Acai (06:48) === [00:09:18] The first type of superfruit juice tested was goji, a berry from Asia also known as the wolfberry. [00:09:24] Servings of four different goji-based superfruit juices were found to have TAC measurements ranging from 570 to 2025 for a product that is 100% puree of the berry. [00:09:37] In other words, from 10 to 34% the TAC of a common apple. [00:09:43] Next, they tested two brands of mangosteen superfruit juices. [00:09:47] Mangosteen is claimed to have double the antioxidant capacity of goji. [00:09:52] The results? [00:09:53] The two juices came in at 1,020 and 1,710, or 17% and 29% of the TAC of a common apple. [00:10:06] Next, they tested two brands of Noni superfruit juices. [00:10:10] Noni comes from Polynesia and is frequently used in Hawaiian traditional medicine. [00:10:15] The two brands measured 540 and 525, each about 9% of the TAC of a common apple. [00:10:25] In other words, a $7 cup of noni juice contains as much antioxidants as a thin 5 cent slice of apple. [00:10:34] Finally, Choice put acai to the test. [00:10:37] The acai is a small purple berry from the Amazon, and Oprah calls it the number one food for anti-aging. [00:10:45] Acai is the headliner ingredient in Mona V, but since they do not disclose their formula, the percentage is unknown. [00:10:53] Choice tested a similar product from RioLife containing 14% acai pulp. [00:10:59] It measured almost as well as the best goji juice, with a TAC of 1,800, or about 31% as much as a common apple. [00:11:11] Choice also added several more common fruits to the mix. [00:11:15] A single naval orange was found to have a TAC of 2,540. [00:11:20] A cup of strawberries has 5,938. [00:11:24] A cup of raspberries has a TAC of 6,058. [00:11:29] And the overall winner was a cup of cultivated blueberries with a total antioxidant capacity of 9,019. [00:11:39] But how can this be? [00:11:40] Choice magazine found that the marketing literature says that goji berries have 10 times, and acai berries 6 times, the antioxidant capacity of blueberries. [00:11:50] Well, this might well be true. [00:11:52] The difference is due to the fact that you're drinking a juice made from the fruit. [00:11:56] You're not eating the whole fruit itself. [00:11:59] For example, the mangosteen fruit has a huge amount of antioxidants and other nutrients. [00:12:05] However, it's all contained within the inedible rind. [00:12:09] The edible pulp of the fruit has only a negligible amount of either. [00:12:13] This is how it's possible for the marketing claim to be, well, accurate if misleading, but the product itself to be devoid of the claimed benefits. [00:12:23] Superfruit juices may be good sources of antioxidants compared to, say, spaghetti or a cheeseburger. [00:12:30] But if you want antioxidants, you'll get far more of them for about one one-hundredth the price by simply eating common fruit from the supermarket. [00:12:41] There's one final concern that critical minds should have with these superfruit juices and with those who recommend them, and that's the conflict of interest inherent in a multi-level marketing scheme. [00:12:52] Superfruit juices are available from many alternative practitioners, like chiropractors and naturopaths, who are not bound by any professional ethics, and even from some medical doctors who are. [00:13:04] Each of them earns income on these sales through a multi-level marketing pyramid. [00:13:09] When you read an article in a wellness newsletter touting the benefits of superfruit, the author makes money if you buy. [00:13:16] When your friend recommends Mona V to you, your friend makes money, and I bet your friend even tried to sell you on becoming a distributor, because if you do, you can get it at a discount. [00:13:26] Even your trusted personal trainer at the gym, who makes vague anecdotal claims about superfruit's power, is part of the pyramid. [00:13:34] Be skeptical. [00:13:36] Superfruit juices are a business model first, a salable product second, and a well-evidenced health product, a distant third. [00:13:46] If you're truly curious about superfruit juices and want the truth, ask a source who has no financial interest in the product. [00:13:54] Ask your medical doctor. [00:13:56] You may find that he knows nothing about it. [00:13:58] Products like Mona V that have no proven health value rarely find their way into medical or nutritional literature. [00:14:06] Now the default comment that I'm going to hear is the accusation that I'm on the payroll of Big Pharma, who are mortified that consumers will learn that they can replace medical treatment and drugs with these Ponzi Pyramid juice drinks. [00:14:19] Of course this makes no sense since $40 a bottle is far more than it costs to buy apples for a week or simply eat a healthy diet like your doctor recommends. [00:14:28] And if profit was their motivation, Big Pharma would be the first ones selling superfruit juices. [00:14:35] But go ahead and make the comment anyway on the skeptoid.com website. [00:14:39] Difference of opinion is what makes the world go around. [00:14:42] This comment not supported by scientific data. [00:14:49] You're listening to Skeptoid. [00:14:51] I'm Brian Dunning from Skeptoid.com. [00:14:59] Hello everyone, this is Adrian Hill from Skookum Studios in Calgary, Canada, the land of maple syrup and mousse. 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