Skeptoid - Skeptoid #29: Orbs: The Ghost in the Camera Aired: 2007-02-24 Duration: 12:39 === Blue Edges Reveal False Orbs (10:11) === [00:00:03] Claimed photographs of ghosts take many forms, but one of the most common types depict what believers call orbs or spirit orbs. [00:00:12] White circular blobs appearing in the air in photographs when there was nothing there at the time the photograph was taken. [00:00:20] Today we're going to explore the orb phenomenon and see how the photographic explanation compares with the paranormal belief. [00:00:29] Orbs are today on Skeptoid. [00:00:38] A quick reminder for everyone, you're listening to Skeptoid, revealing the true science and true history behind urban legends every week since 2006. [00:00:48] With over a thousand episodes, we're celebrating 20 years of keeping it focused and keeping it brief. [00:00:56] And we couldn't have done it without your curiosity leading the way. [00:00:59] And now we're even offering a little bit more. 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[00:03:03] The science behind this hypothesis is not clear. [00:03:06] For example, there are no plausible hypotheses that describe the mechanism by which a person who dies will become a hovering ball of light that appears on film but is invisible to the eye. [00:03:17] There are lots of other things that a dead person might become, presumably, and the only reason believers have chosen orbs seems to be that orbs are the most common unexpected objects seen in photographs. [00:03:29] If there was any good science behind this, there would at least be some plausible proposals for what the orb might consist of, how and why it is generated by a dead body, why it floats in the air, and also some good predictions about who will become an orb after they die, what size and color that orb would be, and where and when it can be found. [00:03:50] I welcome any hypotheses that would explain how orbs could be a real phenomenon, but I haven't been able to find any. [00:03:56] The only evidence is anecdotal reports and of course the obligatory photographs found on the internet by the thousand. [00:04:05] Orbs most often appear on camera when a piece of airborne dust, an insect, or a water droplet is close to the camera, outside of the depth of field, and the flash source is no more than a few degrees away from the axis of the camera lens. [00:04:19] This causes the object to be brightly lit, but way out of focus, resulting in a semi-transparent whitish circle. [00:04:26] If the flash or other light source is significantly off of the axis of the lens, you won't get nearly as much light reflected right straight back to the camera. [00:04:34] If the object is within the depth of field, it will be in focus and generally very small and probably not noticeable. [00:04:41] If the object is not very close to the camera, again, it won't pick up enough light from the flash. [00:04:47] I'm often challenged by believers that if orb photos are so easy to take, why don't I do it then? [00:04:53] I don't because many people have already done so. [00:04:56] If you want great step-by-step instructions for taking an orb photo, go to ASSAP.org and click on Paranormal Photos. [00:05:06] You will get all the examples, instructions, and explanations that you can ask for. [00:05:10] I do have a couple of orb photos that I took by accident inside an abandoned mine shaft, doubtless the hapless spirit of a murdered miner. [00:05:18] And you can find those pictures online at skeptoid.com. [00:05:22] Post your own orb photos in the skeptoid.com forum if you've got them. [00:05:31] In a world that can feel overwhelming, spreading thoughtful, evidence-based content is one of the best ways to make a positive impact. 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[00:06:31] I know that's weird, but hey, it's an option. [00:06:34] The world can feel chaotic, but you're not powerless. [00:06:37] When you promote critical thinking, you can help your community tell fact from fiction. [00:06:42] And that's how we shape a better future. [00:06:44] In uncertain times, spreading good ideas can make you feel helpful, not helpless. [00:06:50] Let's stand up for reason, truth, and understanding. [00:06:54] Together. [00:06:55] Get them to air the Skeptoid files from Skeptoid Media, available on the PRX Exchange, and they'll know what that is. [00:07:08] Now, it would not be correct to state that orb believers don't accept this explanation. [00:07:13] Most actually do. [00:07:15] In fact, many websites that archive ghost photographs no longer accept orb photographs, with the explanation that orb photos too often show false orbs produced by the photographic effects described above. [00:07:28] Nevertheless, most believers still feel that there are legitimate orb photos that do show ghosts or spirits or energy or whatever they want to call it. [00:07:36] One differentiator that I've heard several times is that a false orb photo will have a blue edge, while a real orb photo showing spiritual energy will not. [00:07:47] Once again, there's a simple explanation that's well known to photographers. [00:07:50] Basically, cheap optics and certain sensors will produce this blue edging. [00:07:55] To see some examples, go to a high-end digital camera review website such as dpreview.com and look through some of the photographic tests of cameras that they review. [00:08:05] A good place to see the variance of cameras producing blue edges is the resolution test chart. [00:08:10] The effect can also be caused artificially by the camera's image processing software when certain luminance and chrominance settings are in effect. [00:08:19] Finally, it can also occur with even a high-end camera with the right white balance adjustment when using a flash of a certain color temperature. [00:08:26] In short, blue edges on orbs can be added or subtracted by the camera, and often are, and so should not be considered a reliable indicator of whether a given orb is actually a ghost. [00:08:39] I've also found statements attempting to debunk the evidence that orbs are caused by the flash reflecting from dust outside the depth of field. [00:08:46] These claims are based on multiple successive photographs taken immediately one after the other, where an orb appears in one but not in the others. [00:08:55] Presumably, if there's dust in the air, there's dust in the air, and it's not going to float away in a split second. [00:09:01] Fair enough, but I've never seen such a series of photographs. [00:09:05] Thus, this is purely an unsubstantiated anecdotal report from someone who probably has an agenda, judging by their Pro-Orb website. [00:09:14] I find it hard to believe that a dust particle would remain in exactly the same place for the second or so that a fast digital camera would require to take two pictures. [00:09:22] It only needs to move half an inch or so if it's close to the lens, and even the movement of your hand on the shutter will make enough wind to move it. [00:09:29] The slightest breeze or air current would move it well out of the way, and even in a perfectly still room, Brownian motion is by itself more than enough to make that dust ancient history by the time the camera takes a second shot. [00:09:42] Another hypothesis about orbs is that they are not the spirit at all, but rather energy being transferred to a spirit. [00:09:49] Suppose that a spirit is hanging out near a power source, be that a person, a power line, a warm fireplace, or something else. [00:09:56] The spirit, by its nature, draws energy, which moves into it in the form of glowing, hovering balls. [00:10:03] I read from one source that supports this idea that the laws of physics say that energy transferred like this would naturally assume the shape of a sphere. [00:10:13] Hmm. === No Plausible Hypothesis For Orbs (02:25) === [00:10:14] Refer back to my favorite Skeptoid episode, number one, New Age Energy. [00:10:19] Energy is not a hovering, glowing, physical substance that goes around and does things. [00:10:24] Energy is simply a measurement, so it's hard to imagine what law of physics he was talking about. [00:10:29] Perhaps these hypothesizers mean to say that the spirit is drawing heat or electricity. [00:10:35] Well, neither heat nor electricity are ever seen to move around in the form of gently hovering transparent white balls, and don't say ball lightning, because you bet your ass that every ghost hunter in the room would know if there was a wicked 10 million volt ball of death banging around. [00:10:49] They wouldn't have to wait until they got home to check their film to find out about it. [00:10:54] So in conclusion, I basically came up short seeking a plausible hypothesis for the existence of orbs. [00:11:00] If you've heard of one that makes some sense, please post it in the skeptoid.com forums, or send it to the Skeptalk email discussion list. [00:11:09] Until that happens, I'm satisfied that the evidence shows orbs to be merely a well-understood and commonplace artifact of photography. [00:11:22] You're listening to Skeptoid. [00:11:24] I'm Brian Dunning from Skeptoid.com. 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