Skeptoid #7: Pond Magnet Foolishness
There is no science-based reason why you should buy magnets for the pipes in your pond, despite the sales pitches. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
There is no science-based reason why you should buy magnets for the pipes in your pond, despite the sales pitches. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
| Time | Text |
|---|---|
|
Snake Oil Pond Magnets
00:04:22
|
|
| No matter what is your hobby or interest or expertise, there is someone somewhere selling a nonsense snake oil product to take advantage of your interest and of the average person's scientific illiteracy. | |
| From the world of garden ponds, we have one such example today. | |
| Magnets, intended to be placed on the tubes for your filter pump, which will somehow confer some magical properties onto the water. | |
| Pond magnets are today on Skeptoid. | |
| Hi, I'm Alex Goldman. | |
| You may know me as the host of Reply All, but I'm done with that. | |
| I'm doing something else now. | |
| I've started a new podcast called Hyperfixed. | |
| On every episode of Hyperfixed, listeners write in with their problems and I try to solve them. | |
| Some massive and life-altering, and some so minuscule it'll boggle your mind. | |
| No matter the problem, no matter the size, I'm here for you. | |
| That's HyperFixed, the new podcast from Radiotopia. | |
| Find it wherever you listen to podcasts or at hyperfixedpod.com. | |
| You're listening to Skeptoid. | |
| I'm Brian Dunning from Skeptoid.com. | |
| Pond magnet foolishness. | |
| With a net in one hand and a pH testing kit in the other, let's wade into the murky waters of pond chemistry to test the latest fad and koi pond maintenance. | |
| Magnets. | |
| I was visiting my cousin up in Portland, Oregon, and he showed me his cool koi pond. | |
| Being a koi pond guy myself, we compared notes on filter equipment, water testing, plant types, and all the usual stuff. | |
| His main filter pipe had a group of powerful magnets arrayed around it, which is something I hadn't seen before. | |
| I'm no super expert on ponds, so I guess that maybe it was doing something useful, like grabbing out metal filings from the pump. | |
| I asked him what the magnets were for, and he wasn't sure, but it was something to do with water chemistry. | |
| Right away, my radar went up. | |
| Unless there were significant amounts of iron, nickel, or cobalt in his water, those are the only three elements that are ferromagnetic, that required being magnetically held against the side of the pipe, there's really no physical way for the magnets to have any effect on anything in the water. | |
| My cousin's friend at the pond store had recommended that he install the magnets, and he'd followed her expert recommendation. | |
| After all, he had no reason to doubt her suggestions. | |
| At my urging, he called her up to ask what the heck the magnets were supposed to do. | |
| She hemmed and hawed and said something about water clarity or chemistry or algae, and finally confessed she had no idea that it was just a standard thing that a lot of pond owners do. | |
| The magnets were pretty expensive, so it wasn't surprising that a pond store would push them. | |
| So I turned to the internet, as I often do in times of need. | |
| It didn't take much searching to find the standard claim about magnets and ponds, and it has to do with algae growth. | |
| The claim is that magnets, mounted inline along any of the pipes, improve water clarity by altering iron alignment in free-floating algae, thus inhibiting photosynthesis. | |
| I also found one or two references to reducing lime scale buildup inside the pipes, but since this claim didn't even pretend to suggest a mechanism that might produce this effect, I discounted it. | |
| Lime scale is calcium carbonate. | |
| It contains none of the three ferromagnetic elements and is thus completely unaffected by magnets. | |
| That claim pretty much busts itself. | |
| No help from me needed. | |
| So what about this reduction of algae? | |
| The claim is that the algae will be reduced because its photosynthesis will be inhibited due to the realignment of its iron. | |
| This is a fairly common type of claim. | |
| It makes no sense, but because it uses common, scientific sounding words, many people will simply accept it at face value without questioning it. | |
| My cousin's friend at the pond store did, and when she repeated it to my cousin, he did too. | |
| I even accepted it when he told me, albeit tentatively, pending some kind of reasonable explanation. | |
| Here are the two problems with this claim. | |
|
The Magnetotactic Bacteria Reality
00:05:24
|
|
| Number one, photosynthesis is a chemical reaction among carbohydrates. | |
| Iron is not involved. | |
| The presence of iron would neither hinder nor help photosynthesis, so far as I've been able to find. | |
| The magnetic orientation of any iron molecules nearby is not relevant. | |
| Magnetically realigning nearby iron has no effect on photosynthesis and will not harm a plant or algae in any way. | |
| Number two, iron, which is found in human blood hemoglobin, is not present in chlorophyll or in the other proteins involved in plant photosynthesis. | |
| Although I've never spent the time to wave a magnet past a plant several times a day, I'd be awfully surprised if that plant's photosynthesis stopped and it died as a result. | |
| Hey everyone, I want to remind you about a truly unique and once-in-a-lifetime adventure. | |
| Join me and Mediterranean archaeologist Dr. Flint Dibble for a skeptoid sailing adventure through the Mediterranean Sea aboard the SV Royal Clipper, the world's largest full-rigged sailing ship. | |
| This is also the only opportunity you'll have to hear Flint and I talk about our experiences when we both went on Joe Rogan to represent the causes of science and reality against whatever it is that you get when you're thrown into that lion pit. | |
| We set sail from Málaga, Spain on April 18th, 2026 and finished the adventure in Nice, France on April 25th. | |
| You'll enjoy a fascinating skeptical mini-conference at sea. | |
| You'll visit amazing ports along the Spanish and French coasts and Flint will be our exclusive onboard expert sharing the real archaeology and history about every stop. | |
| We've got special side quests and extra skeptical content planned at each port. | |
| This is a true sailing ship. | |
| You can climb the rat lines to the crow's nest, handle the sails. | |
| You can even take the helm and steer. | |
| This is a real bucket list adventure you don't want to miss. | |
| But cabins are selling fast and this ship does always sell out. | |
| Act now or you'll miss this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. | |
| Get the full details and book your cabin at skeptoid.com slash adventures. | |
| Hope to see you on board. | |
| That's skeptoid.com slash adventures. | |
| Another problem with this claim is the concept that briefly passing a non-magnetic object through a magnetic field will leave it altered after the magnet is removed. | |
| This is like turning the light in a room on then off again and expecting the furniture to be somehow residually contaminated with light. | |
| Electromagnetic radiation doesn't work that way. | |
| I should mention that when I set out to research this claim, I didn't merely gather enough information to shoot the claim down and then quit. | |
| I did make a good effort to find research supporting the effects of magnets on algae. | |
| But since there are no plausible claims, there's really never been anything for anyone to test. | |
| However, I did find something close. | |
| In 2005, the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute announced the results of research they'd done on certain bacteria that are known to carry magnetic crystals. | |
| These are called magnetotactic bacteria. | |
| In 1970, magnetotactic bacteria were also discovered in the southern hemisphere whose magnetic crystals were flipped around. | |
| The purpose of these tiny internal compasses has never been known, but since the 1970 discovery, the working hypothesis has been that they use the compasses to help navigate either up or down to find water with the best oxygen concentration. | |
| This would be consistent with the need for the polarity to be reversed in the southern hemisphere. | |
| But alas, for the pond magnet manufacturers, Woods Hole's research found that North Polarity and South Parity bacteria are both found intermixed in both hemispheres, and also that there are numerous individuals who lack the crystals completely. | |
| All three types of bacteria navigate equally well to the water depths with the most desirable oxygen levels. | |
| The conclusion of the research is that the purpose of the magnetic crystals remains unknown, but it's clear that its reversal or even its total lack makes no difference to the health or life cycle of the bacteria. | |
| And once the bar magnet was removed from the microscope slide, the magnetotactic bacteria realigned themselves normally with the Earth's magnetic field, according to the polarity of each. | |
| There were no residual effects of having been briefly placed near a magnet. | |
| So save your money if you own a koi pond or other aquarium, and don't buy any magnetic water health gizmos. | |
| I recommend that you do your own research or at least ask for a reasonable explanation whenever any salesman offers you a product that claims to accomplish something far-fetched or contrary to your understanding of the laws of nature. | |
|
Save Your Money Now
00:01:33
|
|
| Skeptoid is a listener-supported program. | |
| The show is able to be produced only because listeners like you come to the website skeptoid.com and support it with a monthly micropayment. | |
| It's quick, easy, painless, and it'll guarantee the show to come for many years. | |
| You're listening to Skeptoid. | |
| I'm Brian Dunning from Skeptoid.com. | |
| Hello everyone, this is Adrian Hill from Skookum Studios in Calgary, Canada, the land of maple syrup and moose. | |
| And I'm here to ask you to consider becoming a premium member of Skeptoid for as little as $5 per month. | |
| And that's only the cost of a couple of Tim Horton's double doubles. | |
| And that's Canadian for coffee with double cream and sugar. | |
| Why support Skeptoid? | |
| If you are like me and don't like ads, but like extended versions of each episode, Premium is for you. | |
| If you want to support a worthwhile non-profit that combats pseudoscience, promotes critical thinking, and provides free access to teachers to use the podcast in the classroom via the Teacher's Toolkit, then sign up today. | |
| Remember that skepticism is the best medicine. | |
| Next to giggling, of course. | |
| Until next time, this is Adrienne Hill. | |
| From PRX. | |