Sean Hannity Show - Amnesty Showdown
Aired: 2026-04-10
Duration: 29:09


=== Reconciliation vs Appropriations Bills (10:28) ===

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[00:00:09]  I mean, the left cannot stop themselves, they can't help themselves.
[00:00:14]  It is their desire for open borders, amnesty, sanctuary cities, and states.
[00:00:22]  They cling to it like manna from heaven.
[00:00:26]  It is so beyond frustrating.
[00:00:28]  Now, if you don't respect America's laws, And our borders and our sovereignty, you don't belong here.
[00:00:35]  You've been given an opportunity to self deport.
[00:00:38]  That means free transportation back to the country of origin where you came from.
[00:00:43]  And we're even putting money in your pocket because, in the end, it's a lot cheaper for us to give you a little bit of money to reestablish your life as an incentive to go home.
[00:00:51]  And you retain the right to come into the country legally.
[00:00:55]  That is a pretty strong incentive for people if they enjoyed their time here, even though they shouldn't have been here.
[00:01:02]  That would be a strong incentive.
[00:01:03]  But It doesn't matter how many Americans die.
[00:01:07]  It doesn't matter how many Americans have been raped.
[00:01:10]  It doesn't matter how many children have been molested.
[00:01:13]  It doesn't matter how many cartel members and drug dealers have killed Americans.
[00:01:19]  The left never wants to talk about the victims of their wide open borders, which became the biggest national security threat, most preventable national security threat in history with Biden, Harris, and Mayorkas.
[00:01:33]  They don't want to talk about any of that.
[00:01:35]  Which is so frustrating to me.
[00:01:37]  And now they're pressing for the Dignity Act, which is if you've been here five years, path to citizenship.
[00:01:44]  I mean, even some Republicans are caving on this.
[00:01:48]  And I understand that there are people that may have been here 20, 25, 30 years.
[00:01:54]  They're not on my, if they're working, if they are paying their taxes, if they're obeying the laws, they're not at the top of my priority list for deportation.
[00:02:04]  We have too many murderers, rapists.
[00:02:06]  You know, child molesters, other violent criminals, we've got to get rid of first.
[00:02:10]  Known terrorists that are in the country, we know they're here, we don't know where they are.
[00:02:14]  But this is not the priority of the Democrats.
[00:02:17]  You know, they're too busy calling ICE Gestapo, Nazi, and fascist, even though they have been arresting the worst of the worst and putting their own lives in harm's way to do so.
[00:02:30]  Here is Congresswoman, sad to say, from my free state of Florida, Maria Salazar, pushing this amnesty, quote, Dignity Act for illegal immigrants.
[00:02:40]  And here's what she said to ABC News.
[00:02:43]  We give them dignity.
[00:02:45]  At some point in the future, another legislator will write another law to give them a path to citizenship.
[00:02:51]  Right now, what we need to do is to buy peace for these people, allow them to stay, to continue working, because they are needed.
[00:02:58]  You see, what I'm trying to do is to bring some common sense, which is the least common of all senses, to this conversation.
[00:03:05]  The economy needs them.
[00:03:07]  They do not have a criminal record, they have not gone into trouble, they have been here for a long time.
[00:03:11]  They have roots in the country.
[00:03:13]  Let them stay.
[00:03:14]  Don't give them any type of federal programs.
[00:03:17]  And allow them to pay taxes, help the Social Security Fund, and let them stay and contribute with the economy with no criminal record.
[00:03:25]  What is wrong with that?
[00:03:26]  We need them.
[00:03:27]  We need them.
[00:03:28]  Actually, we can bring in enough people, except the only difference would be we have to vet people that come into this country to make sure they don't have radical associations.
[00:03:38]  We need a health check, and we need to know they're not going to be a financial burden on the American people.
[00:03:43]  There's so much misinformation as it relates to this, quote, Dignity Act.
[00:03:47]  Anyway, Brandon Gill, Congressman from Texas, good to have you.
[00:03:51]  Your reaction to Maria Salazar.
[00:03:54]  Sean, thanks for having me on.
[00:03:55]  I mean, this, the Dignidad Act, and remember the name of it is the Dignidad Act.
[00:04:00]  It's written in a foreign language.
[00:04:02]  That's in the bill text itself because it's a bill that benefits foreigners at the expense of the American people.
[00:04:09]  This is an amnesty bill, plain and simple.
[00:04:11]  It's a bill that the day it's enacted, if it is enacted, 12 million illegal aliens are automatically given legal status to stay in the United States.
[00:04:22]  On top of that, it allows the DHS.
[00:04:25]  To bring in illegal aliens who have already been deported back into the country if they meet certain criteria.
[00:04:32]  On top of that, it stops the president from deporting virtually anybody for two years because if anybody is caught, if immigration officials catch any illegal alien, they have to prove and show that that illegal alien has been here for less than five years in order to deport them.
[00:04:50]  And the illegal alien, who is, by the way, as we're always told, undocumented, can simply say, I've been here for longer than five years, and we don't have any evidence to show otherwise.
[00:04:59]  So this is an amnesty bill.
[00:05:01]  It's exactly the kind of legislation that Republicans want a mandate to stop.
[00:05:07]  We want a mandate in the last election cycle to secure the border, to deport illegal aliens, to do all of the things that this bill makes far, far worse.
[00:05:17]  Okay.
[00:05:17]  So I don't see this gaining traction, although I was watching Mike Lawler on with Laura Ingram last night, and he's defending this, and I think he did a poor job in doing so.
[00:05:30]  How many Republicans are supporting this?
[00:05:32]  Well, right now, I believe there's about 20.
[00:05:35]  I don't have the list in front of me, but it's about 20 Republicans.
[00:05:38]  But the reality is, and I think more and more people are seeing this.
[00:05:41]  And listen, Mike Lawler and Maria Salazar, their colleagues, their friends, they're just wrong on this.
[00:05:47]  More and more people are seeing that this is a dream bill for Democrats.
[00:05:51]  Democrats get their political power from illegal immigration that impacts congressional apportionment, illegal aliens who are voting.
[00:06:00]  To fight against.
[00:06:01]  So I don't think this bill is going to go anywhere, but that's why I've been so vocal on it is to make sure that it doesn't go anywhere.
[00:06:08]  I want to make sure this bill doesn't get a vote in committee.
[00:06:10]  It doesn't get a vote on the House floor because it's a horrendous piece of legislation.
[00:06:15]  Yeah, well, it certainly is.
[00:06:18]  Look, I've had a lot of discussions with a lot of different people, and the bill that they passed in the Senate was a disgrace.
[00:06:26]  Obviously, the SAVE Act didn't get passed, but the funding department of Homeland Security didn't work either.
[00:06:31]  There seems to be a consensus now between the Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, and Majority Leader John Thune on how to move forward.
[00:06:41]  Have you gone over the points of whatever that consensus bill is going to be?
[00:06:46]  You know, the things that we want to make sure is make sure that DHS and ICE and Border Patrol are all properly funded.
[00:06:54]  And there are a couple different ways to do that.
[00:06:56]  Of course, there is the appropriations bill, which Democrats have fought against.
[00:07:01]  Possibly we can do that in reconciliation, but if we're going to do that, if we're going to fund these programs in reconciliation, which only requires 50 votes in the Senate, it's a different procedural way to do it, we want to make sure that we get that done before we pass an appropriations bill that doesn't have funding for those programs in it.
[00:07:19]  In other words, we want to make sure that Democrats don't try to play some kind of silly political game to stop us from getting the money that our DHS agency needs, that our ICE agents need, that our TSA workers need.
[00:07:34]  So that's where we're at right now.
[00:07:35]  We're working through all of the details of this kind of as we speak.
[00:07:40]  I like the idea of reconciliation.
[00:07:42]  I like the idea that it's a simple majority.
[00:07:44]  I think we effectively used it to pass the one big beautiful bill.
[00:07:49]  The one thing that is in question, though, is if you look at the very, very kind of arcane rules associated with reconciliation, which for the record is how Obama passed Obamacare, is that it has to be related to budgetary matters.
[00:08:07]  Only and exclusively.
[00:08:09]  Is there any way the provisions in the SAVE Act can be tied to such?
[00:08:15]  Candidly, I don't think so, Sean.
[00:08:17]  There might be some broad stipulations that we can put into reconciliation, but nothing like the SAVE Act as we've been debating it for the past several months.
[00:08:28]  And that's one of the issues that we've been up against.
[00:08:30]  The only way to get the SAVE Act signed into law, and that's the goal here, is not messaging, not political games.
[00:08:37]  It's to make this law.
[00:08:39]  The only way to do that really is for the Senate to utilize the talking filibuster to get it passed with a simple majority out of the Senate.
[00:08:47]  I don't think that, you know, there are.
[00:08:49]  Again, we're going to do everything that we can, but reconciliation is not an off ramp for us and shouldn't be seen as an off ramp for us to fail on the SAVE Act.
[00:08:59]  That's something we need to get through with a talking filibuster in the Senate.
[00:09:02]  Well, I agree, but in reality, I don't think we're going to get this passed.
[00:09:06]  And, you know, the idea that this is not universal, that every elected official would want proof of citizenship and voter ID is beyond any comprehension I have.
[00:09:17]  And we just don't have the votes for it, unfortunately.
[00:09:20]  Now, I know that there was a lot of talk, and we've had Mike Lee and Ted Cruz on this program exhaustively discussing a talking filibuster, but that still doesn't get us over the finish line in the end, does it?
[00:09:32]  Well, I think if we could get all of the Republicans on board, we could get it done.
[00:09:37]  And that's sort of.
[00:09:38]  But the reality is, we don't have them all on board.
[00:09:41]  That's the problem.
[00:09:42]  Right.
[00:09:42]  You're right.
[00:09:43]  That's exactly right.
[00:09:44]  And that's, you know, I've been pushing for that incredibly hard, but we don't have the Republican votes to do that currently.
[00:09:51]  And that's why we're looking at any possible alternative.
[00:09:54]  If we can't get the SAVE Act in reconciliation, which we can't, is there a watered-down form of voter ID that we can get in reconciliation?
[00:10:03]  And you start to get into the technical nuances of the legislation itself, because as you mentioned, it's the Senate parliamentarian who ultimately decides what can and can't be in reconciliation.
[00:10:16]  All right, Congressman Brandon Gill, we appreciate you being with us.
[00:10:19]  Thanks for the update.
[00:10:21]  Let's get to our phones.
[00:10:22]  800 941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
[00:10:25]  So we have Pete in Boston.
[00:10:27]  What's up, Pete?

=== Biblical Forgiveness and Correction (13:49) ===

[00:10:28]  How are you?
[00:10:28]  You know, I was watching an interview with Magic Johnson and Larry Bird back in the day.
[00:10:36]  They were on Letterman.
[00:10:37]  It was like a 20 minute segment, and they were great together.
[00:10:40]  I think the NBA, some of the greatest days ever, was Bird versus Magic.
[00:10:46]  And that really was magic in so many different ways.
[00:10:50]  And to hear them talk about how competitive they were was amazing.
[00:10:53]  Ha ha.
[00:10:54]  They really were.
[00:10:55]  And they, as much as they seem to be friends now, they weren't back then.
[00:10:58]  That's for sure.
[00:10:59]  Well, they were and they weren't.
[00:11:01]  I mean, there was just a deep respect on both sides.
[00:11:05]  And, you know, I mean, you watch highlights of Larry Bird in his heyday.
[00:11:10]  I mean, there was nobody better.
[00:11:12]  You watch highlights of Magic in his heyday and nobody better.
[00:11:15]  I'll tell you a funny story.
[00:11:16]  Do you want to hear a quick story about Magic?
[00:11:18]  I ran into him once.
[00:11:20]  I was traveling and I go into a restaurant and in walks Magic Johnson and I walk up to him and I said, I'm, I, I said, I'm a big fan.
[00:11:28]  He looks at me and he goes, No way.
[00:11:31]  No, no.
[00:11:33]  It's not you.
[00:11:34]  No way.
[00:11:34]  And he just did it with that big, infectious smile of his.
[00:11:39]  And it was a pretty cool moment.
[00:11:41]  I sent him over a bottle of wine.
[00:11:44]  Oh, that is super cool.
[00:11:45]  Good for you.
[00:11:48]  It was fun, but he was so welcoming.
[00:11:50]  He couldn't have been nicer.
[00:11:51]  He really was a good guy.
[00:11:53]  The Bird and McHale era in Boston, I was just blessed.
[00:11:58]  Oh, Bird, McHale, Paris, DJ.
[00:12:02]  I mean, come on.
[00:12:04]  You just didn't have Danny Ainge.
[00:12:06]  You didn't have any better team than that.
[00:12:09]  It was like one of the best of all time.
[00:12:11]  God bless Red Auerback.
[00:12:13]  He put together an amazing group.
[00:12:14]  Yeah, he did for sure.
[00:12:16]  What's going on?
[00:12:17]  Well, being an Irish Catholic good boy from Boston, you were talking yesterday about the Lord's Prayer.
[00:12:26]  And I have a little confession and also an explanation for you.
[00:12:30]  My wife came to this country from Russia, so she had no religion.
[00:12:34]  She became an American citizen, and I got to admit, I wouldn't have passed that test, even though I'm a BC grad.
[00:12:39]  She showed me the test, and embarrassingly, I don't think I would have passed it.
[00:12:43]  Well, I would go to church on Sunday and come home and tell her that God says hello.
[00:12:48]  Well, she got tired of that sarcasm after a while and she decided she wanted to go to church with me.
[00:12:52]  She enjoyed it.
[00:12:53]  She decided to go through the RCIA process to become Catholic.
[00:12:58]  So for two years she studied and I'd go with her as often as I could.
[00:13:02]  One night at the class, the priest actually dissected the Lord's Prayer for us, breaking each piece down in a way I had never known of, even though I'd been a Catholic 50 years longer than her.
[00:13:12]  And when he got to the part about, and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us, he pointed out that that's largely misunderstood.
[00:13:19]  It doesn't just mean if you forgive, you'll be forgiven.
[00:13:22]  It's the depth in which you forgive is the depth that God will in turn forgive you for your trespass.
[00:13:28]  Well, then, Linda, with all due respect to the topic we're discussing, to use street vernacular, she's screwed.
[00:13:37]  She's in trouble because she doesn't forgive at all.
[00:13:39]  And I usually agree with Linda over you.
[00:13:42]  I apologize for that.
[00:13:43]  But in this particular case, you are dead on.
[00:13:45]  And that was just the best explanation that I've ever been given.
[00:13:47]  So I wanted to share that with you.
[00:13:50]  Who else did a really good job of that?
[00:13:51]  If you can probably find it on YouTube somewhere, is Pastor.
[00:13:55]  Tim Keller.
[00:13:55]  He also wrote a book about the prodigal son, which is really worth reading if you're interested in pursuing.
[00:14:01]  But his analysis was more about the other brother that wasn't happy that the father accepted the brother that went his own way and squandered his money.
[00:14:13]  So it's pretty interesting if you want to expand your reading if you have time.
[00:14:18]  Linda, are you listening?
[00:14:20]  You can't have a hate list, you just can't.
[00:14:23]  You can't write your own Bible.
[00:14:26]  You can't just interpret things the way you want to.
[00:14:29]  It's very, very clear.
[00:14:30]  Forgive us as we forgive.
[00:14:32]  Love others as you would like to be loved.
[00:14:34]  Treat others the way you want to be treated.
[00:14:35]  Turn the other cheek.
[00:14:36]  All those things.
[00:14:37]  You just can't say, I have a hate list and God is going to understand me.
[00:14:42]  That doesn't work.
[00:14:43]  It doesn't fly.
[00:14:45]  You're breaking up on me.
[00:14:48]  She doesn't want to deal with it right now.
[00:14:49]  Anyway, Pete Austin.
[00:14:51]  I love Pete.
[00:14:52]  Pete's a celebrity.
[00:14:53]  But she can't answer that.
[00:14:54]  I mean, what he.
[00:14:55]  Oh, I can answer it.
[00:14:56]  I had a caller.
[00:14:58]  Wait, I had a caller write me today.
[00:15:00]  Caller.
[00:15:01]  And it was the best email I ever got.
[00:15:02]  And I'll tell you about it on the other side.
[00:15:17]  All right, let's get to our busy phones.
[00:15:21]  I really hesitate to do this because this is beginning to annoy me because there's nothing that anybody's going to say that is going to convince Linda that she's just wrong biblically.
[00:15:33]  And she just wants to write the Bible her own way.
[00:15:37]  But I'll entertain a couple of more calls about it until I get totally sick of it.
[00:15:42]  Brian in Texas, you're on the Sean Hannity show.
[00:15:44]  Hello.
[00:15:45]  Good afternoon, Sean.
[00:15:47]  Thank you for taking my call.
[00:15:48]  First time caller, long time listener, my friend.
[00:15:51]  Oh, thank you.
[00:15:53]  Glad you are with us.
[00:15:54]  Yes, sir.
[00:15:55]  Yes, sir.
[00:15:55]  I just wanted to touch base with you.
[00:15:57]  While you are a great American and an amazing patriot, I got to ask a favor if you stop giving Linda such a hard time.
[00:16:05]  What do you mean?
[00:16:05]  What am I giving her a hard time about?
[00:16:07]  Well, all the pasta sauce stuff and that she can't shoot correctly and giving her a hard time.
[00:16:14]  I know.
[00:16:14]  Okay.
[00:16:15]  She speaks with a thick New York accent and she refuses to acknowledge it.
[00:16:20]  All right.
[00:16:20]  So that's not pasta sauce, it's pasta sauce.
[00:16:25]  It's simple.
[00:16:26]  So I'm trying to, in a fun way, make her aware of how thick that accent is.
[00:16:34]  What's the other thing you're upset about?
[00:16:36]  But there's also something very attractive about it.
[00:16:39]  A very strong minded person.
[00:16:41]  Very attractive about it.
[00:16:42]  That I'm being nice and trying to correct her and make her a better person.
[00:16:47]  Like when I tell her to follow the actual text of the Bible.
[00:16:50]  But that's her accent.
[00:16:52]  That's her personality.
[00:16:52]  That's how God made her.
[00:16:54]  And we need to embrace that because it's very attractive.
[00:16:57]  Wait a minute.
[00:16:58]  God made us.
[00:16:59]  To just interpret the Bible any way we want, and in her case, ignore very strict.
[00:17:05]  The Lord's Prayer doesn't get any closer to Jesus than anything else, any one thing that He left us and told us and taught us.
[00:17:15]  You know, to forgive us as we forgive others.
[00:17:20]  That's pretty straightforward, isn't it?
[00:17:22]  It is very straightforward.
[00:17:23]  I completely agree with you.
[00:17:25]  I don't disagree.
[00:17:26]  So I say sauce right, she says it wrong.
[00:17:29]  I say.
[00:17:30]  That the Bible is very, very clear.
[00:17:32]  Forgive us as we forgive.
[00:17:34]  And you don't get to write your own version of the Bible, do you?
[00:17:38]  Well, I think having an accent and interpreting the Bible are two different things.
[00:17:42]  But we should be able to embrace other people's dialect.
[00:17:46]  Like, for example, I'll embrace her dialect.
[00:17:49]  I'm just making that just for kicks and giggles.
[00:17:51]  But on this part, it's serious.
[00:17:54]  I mean, she thinks that she's going to get to the pearly gates one day and she's going to say to God Almighty, our Father, the creator of the heavens and the earth, he thinks that she's going to have an opportunity to say, Well, you know, you freaking made me.
[00:18:11]  What the hell?
[00:18:12]  You know, I have a hate list, but you know what?
[00:18:15]  You made me the type of person that hates.
[00:18:17]  The whole purpose is to change one's heart.
[00:18:20]  That comes from the Latin to repent, to have a change of heart.
[00:18:24]  So I'm just trying to inform her she doesn't get to write her own Bible, which she apparently has a name for it.
[00:18:30]  Yes, yes, I completely agree.
[00:18:32]  And I think that's why God has taken people such as yourself and other people on this planet to be able to guide and coach and.
[00:18:41]  She's uncoachable.
[00:18:44]  First of all, are you ready for me to talk about me or are we going to keep letting you talk about me?
[00:18:48]  I want to keep talking to Brian about you.
[00:18:50]  Nobody invited you into this conversation.
[00:18:52]  Brian probably wants to talk to me.
[00:18:54]  Not for nothing.
[00:18:55]  I don't know about that.
[00:18:56]  I would love to talk to Linda.
[00:18:58]  Oh, see that?
[00:19:01]  What do you call your version of the Bible?
[00:19:03]  Because apparently you used to be looking for it.
[00:19:05]  First of all, I want to be very clear.
[00:19:06]  I did not write this.
[00:19:07]  First of all, I just want to be clear.
[00:19:10]  I'm not as creative as you.
[00:19:10]  Ethan sent me a copy of it yesterday.
[00:19:13]  He did.
[00:19:13]  Ethan wrote it because Ethan is actually super religious.
[00:19:17]  He knows the Bible inside and out.
[00:19:19]  I only started reading it about a year ago because I'm doing Bible in a year.
[00:19:22]  By the way, I listened to Father Mike Schmitz.
[00:19:24]  If any of you are Catholic, he's awesome, yada, yada.
[00:19:26]  Anywho, but he wrote the Lindenarianism.
[00:19:31]  I think I'm saying that right, something like that.
[00:19:33]  And he broke it down for me that there is a way for us to pray like me.
[00:19:40]  And I'm just going to give you a little synopsis here.
[00:19:44]  It says, Are you good?
[00:19:46]  You're going to say something?
[00:19:47]  What's happening?
[00:19:47]  No, I'm not good because you are his direct boss.
[00:19:54]  Yeah.
[00:19:54]  And the problem that you have with that is.
[00:19:57]  And I inspired him.
[00:19:58]  You should be happy about this.
[00:20:00]  I drove him to the pen.
[00:20:01]  I let you manage the staff.
[00:20:03]  I don't have time.
[00:20:04]  That is your job, that is your domain.
[00:20:07]  And everybody feels like they have to suck up to you.
[00:20:11]  First of all, nobody sucks up to me because I don't micromanage.
[00:20:15]  Excuse me, now you're lying, which also is against the.
[00:20:18]  I would never lie.
[00:20:19]  In fact, I probably am too direct.
[00:20:20]  That's my biggest problem.
[00:20:21]  That's one of my biggest problems.
[00:20:23]  Right, Brian?
[00:20:24]  All right, explain what.
[00:20:26]  Wait, Brian was going to say something.
[00:20:28]  Explain how you can justify a way to forgive us as we forgive.
[00:20:32]  Explain that because let's get to the heart of it.
[00:20:34]  We're wasting time.
[00:20:35]  So, wait, we're never wasting time.
[00:20:37]  These are wonderful conversations.
[00:20:39]  I had an email today from a caller.
[00:20:41]  I don't know how he got my email, but this is what he said.
[00:20:43]  Are you ready?
[00:20:44]  His name's Patrick Smith.
[00:20:45]  Patrick Smith said what?
[00:20:46]  He said, Linda, God's formula for forgiveness is simple throughout the Bible.
[00:20:51]  The simple order is rebuke, repentance, forgiveness.
[00:20:56]  No more, no less.
[00:20:58]  Forgiveness is not automatic.
[00:20:59]  If it was, there would be no concept of hell.
[00:21:02]  The order can't be changed.
[00:21:04]  One must follow the other in order for forgiveness to be applied.
[00:21:08]  God's forgiveness.
[00:21:09]  Hang on, hang on.
[00:21:11]  Hang on.
[00:21:11]  You sound like a liberal.
[00:21:12]  You're giving me not answers to a fundamental question.
[00:21:15]  This is infuriating.
[00:21:17]  Are you good?
[00:21:18]  You know, patience is a virtue.
[00:21:20]  I think that's in the Bible somewhere.
[00:21:21]  Anywho, God's forgiveness is there for everyone.
[00:21:24]  It is not applied outside of the order.
[00:21:27]  Our forgiveness for each other works the same.
[00:21:30]  This is what the Bible means to forgive as Christ forgave us.
[00:21:33]  His forgiveness is there, but not applied without repentance.
[00:21:37]  So, most of the time, oh my God, I know.
[00:21:40]  You're looking for a way to thread the needle to justify and rationalize your perversion of what he's saying, which is to forgive us as we forgive.
[00:21:50]  It's also in the Bible for Jesus as we forgive.
[00:21:52]  You can't just pick and choose what you like, Sean.
[00:21:55]  You can't pick and choose what you like.
[00:21:56]  You have to like it all.
[00:21:57]  You can't rewrite God's word.
[00:21:59]  Okay, you can't rewrite God's word.
[00:22:01]  Forgive us as we forgive.
[00:22:03]  What part of that do you not understand?
[00:22:05]  And what does God mean when he says forgive?
[00:22:08]  Rebuke, repent, forgive.
[00:22:10]  So until they repent.
[00:22:12]  Okay, have you forgiven everybody or do you cling to your hateless like manna from heaven?
[00:22:19]  But those people didn't say they were sorry.
[00:22:21]  Why shouldn't I hate that?
[00:22:23]  Regardless of whether or not.
[00:22:24]  Yes, if you don't say, you forgive them or not.
[00:22:26]  That's not true.
[00:22:27]  See, you're picking and choosing.
[00:22:29]  Can't do that.
[00:22:30]  Who's a liberal now?
[00:22:31]  Did they ask Jesus for forgiveness when they were nailing him to the cross?
[00:22:34]  No, they did not.
[00:22:34]  Now, if they repented and they asked for forgiveness later on, then I'm sure God forgave them.
[00:22:40]  Maybe.
[00:22:40]  Yeah, sure.
[00:22:42]  But you have to want it.
[00:22:43]  But most people, but they have to want it and they have to rebuke and they have to repent.
[00:22:46]  So I'm just saying, you know, when the guy on the subway is punching the granny in the face and he's not saying he's sorry, I think I have a right to hate him.
[00:22:55]  Listen, that doesn't mean you don't take action.
[00:23:00]  I would be the first person on that train to protect Granny.
[00:23:03]  And I would do it with force, but it doesn't mean I hate the person or that I'm going to leave there hating the person.
[00:23:09]  Well, if that person.
[00:23:10]  I'm not going to like their actions, but it doesn't mean I hate them.
[00:23:13]  Well, I hate them at that moment if they decide to repent and find their way to a better life, a Christian life.
[00:23:18]  I can act without hate.
[00:23:20]  I can.
[00:23:21]  I'm now rebuking you without hatred.
[00:23:23]  All right, Brian gets the last word.
[00:23:25]  We're moving on.
[00:23:25]  You're a better man than me.
[00:23:27]  I am.
[00:23:27]  Brian, go ahead.
[00:23:29]  Yes, sir.
[00:23:30]  Yes, sir.
[00:23:30]  Well, while I love the opportunity to play marriage counselor for y'all two, put on a great show.
[00:23:40]  I love everything that you're doing.
[00:23:42]  Y'all are both great patriots, great Americans.
[00:23:45]  And I just appreciate you letting me have the opportunity to tell Linda how great of a person she is.
[00:23:50]  They're so annoying.
[00:23:51]  Why don't you tell her that the meaning of why don't you say that Sean's right?
[00:23:55]  That it says, forgive us as we forgive.
[00:23:58]  There's no ambiguity, there's no need for rationalization or justification.
[00:24:03]  Tell her to stop with this twisted, liberal like bastardizing of very clear, unambiguous language.
[00:24:13]  I would tell her, but at the same time, if you didn't get what's the point?

=== Trump's Regime Change Goals (04:51) ===

[00:24:18]  Time about everything else.
[00:24:19]  Maybe she might be more receptive to that information.
[00:24:21]  Oh, you're going to blame me for her unwillingness to forgive and her claims.
[00:24:25]  Brian is like wicked smart, right?
[00:24:27]  Brian is smart.
[00:24:28]  It's my fault.
[00:24:29]  No, no, no.
[00:24:29]  I'll take it on me.
[00:24:30]  It's all my fault.
[00:24:31]  All right, Brian.
[00:24:32]  I hate you.
[00:24:33]  God bless Texas.
[00:24:34]  Oh, look at you with your hate list.
[00:24:36]  I'm a little blunt, sir.
[00:24:37]  Starting a hate list like you.
[00:24:38]  Mike in New Hampshire, live free or die.
[00:24:40]  Mike, how are you?
[00:24:41]  Hey, good afternoon, Sean.
[00:24:43]  Thanks for taking my call.
[00:24:44]  Listen, I'm a true magna.
[00:24:48]  Republican conservative, and I'm totally disappointed in this deal that Trump made.
[00:24:52]  Without complete regime change, you're kicking the can down the road, and it's already been proven in the last 24 hours, they cannot keep an agreement.
[00:25:01]  And now they're charging up to $2 million toll for ships to go through the straits where we used to be free.
[00:25:07]  You have to totally wipe these people out because their mindset, they're pre-programmed to hate America, to hate Israel, and they're going to continue and rebuild it.
[00:25:15]  They're going to get the help of Russia and China.
[00:25:18]  We've got the military there.
[00:25:19]  Arm the rest of the Iranians, get rid of the regime, and start over.
[00:25:24]  That's what I say.
[00:25:25]  Let me ask you a question, Mike.
[00:25:27]  Do you think that I have a pretty good pulse on President Trump?
[00:25:31]  I used to think that up until we started agreeing with him with this deal, and that this deal has been made to be broken.
[00:25:37]  It's already been broken.
[00:25:38]  I mean, you can't.
[00:25:39]  Okay, there are certain nuances, timing issues, conflict issues.
[00:25:45]  This is not, they're not going to continue what they've been up to since this deal has been.
[00:25:51]  Has been agreed to very long without President Trump just going in and doing what he said he would do yesterday.
[00:25:58]  Or, I guess it was Monday or two, or 8 p.m. on Tuesday, whenever it was.
[00:26:03]  So I can promise you that part.
[00:26:05]  Okay.
[00:26:05]  So let not your heart be troubled.
[00:26:08]  I'm telling you that Donald Trump is not going to leave there without the enriched uranium, and he's not going to leave there with the Straighter Hormuz being controlled by the Iranians.
[00:26:19]  Now, if you want to trust me on it, trust and verify, just wait and see.
[00:26:24]  Okay.
[00:26:25]  Come on.
[00:26:25]  I'm going to be proven right.
[00:26:27]  I'm not, I have, I've, Complete confidence.
[00:26:29]  And I'll add one other thing.
[00:26:30]  It's not going to be a forever war.
[00:26:32]  Yeah, but what about removing the rest of the regime?
[00:26:35]  Because you're going to get the same.
[00:26:36]  Well, but the regime change was never a part of the president's agenda.
[00:26:39]  There's not one time he really talked about that.
[00:26:42]  His goal was to make sure they can't have nuclear weapons.
[00:26:44]  Now the issue of the Strait of Hormuz has come up, and the president's going to follow through and he's going to resolve both these issues.
[00:26:50]  And then he's going to hightail at home.
[00:26:53]  And like he promised during the campaign, it won't be a forever war.
[00:26:57]  And he will have removed.
[00:26:59]  The threat of a nuclear armed Iran for your children and all of our children and our grandchildren, and he will have made the world a better, safer place in spite of all the criticisms, all the attacks by people that doubt him.
[00:27:13]  You know, Midnight Hammer happened, Epic Fury happened, Maduro happened, Soleimani's dead, Baghdadi's dead, ISIS is wiped out.
[00:27:22]  Give the guy a little slack here.
[00:27:24]  You know, he's going to act, he acts on Trump time, he's not going to act on media time or pressure from the outside.
[00:27:31]  I just have more confidence in him based on specific things I know and based on what I know about the Trump doctrine and his commitment to finishing this job.
[00:27:41]  I do not have doubt that he will finish this in a way that will be satisfactory to what you are asking about.
[00:27:46]  Does that make you feel better?
[00:27:48]  Not really, because even if you get these temporary things through with the old regime in charge, it's just a matter of time before they go back to their old ways.
[00:27:59]  What are we going to be policing them for the rest of our lives?
[00:28:02]  Going in with inspections and getting into.
[00:28:03]  Well, then you want a very different goal than President Trump stated.
[00:28:07]  Then you want regime change.
[00:28:09]  Then you want nation building.
[00:28:10]  And Donald Trump specifically is not in it for that.
[00:28:13]  He's just not.
[00:28:14]  He even said in the beginning that it's going to be up to the Iranian people.
[00:28:18]  And he's standing by that.
[00:28:19]  He's not going to be there for regime change, babysitting them and keeping American troops in harm's way for an unspecified period of time and risking their lives.
[00:28:29]  He has very specific goals, he's achieved most of them.
[00:28:33]  Now it's about finishing the job.
[00:28:35]  Whether they do it the easy way or hard way will be up to them.
[00:28:38]  But he never talked about regime change.
[00:28:40]  If the Israelis want to do it, that's going to be up to them.
[00:28:43]  He's done a poor job.
[00:28:44]  Right, my friend?
[00:28:45]  Listen, I hear what you're saying, but we really have had regime change.
[00:28:49]  We're now at the fourth tier, fifth tier layer of regime in Iran.
[00:28:54]  But anyway, I do appreciate your call.
[00:28:55]  I would say I'm far more optimistic based on President Trump's past performance than you are.
[00:29:02]  But let's see.
[00:29:02]  I mean, time will tell.
[00:29:05]  Maybe you can call back after it.
[00:29:07]  Turns out the way I just said it absolutely will.