RAPE GANG INQUIRY - WITH GUEST PETER MCILVENNA PART 1
Peter McElvena, co-host of Hearts of Oak and former UKIP campaign manager, joins Linda McLaughlin to criticize the closed-door RAPE GANG INQUIRY led by MP Rupert Lowe, funded by $800K crowdfunding. They blame mass immigration—UK’s net migration surged from 30K–40K pre-1990s to 900K annually—for enabling grooming gangs, with 90% of prosecuted offenders being Muslim Pakistanis. McLaughlin cites Rotherham’s 1,400+ reported rapes, while McElvena links cultural norms like apostasy laws and unequal divorce practices to systemic failures, contrasting UK inaction with Europe’s rising anti-immigration movements. Both argue politicians prioritize censorship over justice, leaving victims trapped in delayed trials while critics face swift legal consequences. [Automatically generated summary]
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We've got an awesome guest today.
And I'm actually splitting up this show into two because he's so phenomenal and we talked for an hour and I was like, ah, so good.
I can't get rid of any of it.
So part one today with Peter McElvana.
He is the host of Hearts of Oak podcast, former advisor to the UK Parliament and former campaign manager for the UK Independence Party.
He had an awesome article out in the Daily Signal.
He writes for a bunch of different publications, but he had this article out and it was all about the grooming gangs in London and what is happening in the UK and the rape inquiry that's currently happening with a member of parliament by the name of Rupert Lowe.
And it's behind closed doors, unfortunately.
They were hoping for a transparent hearing, but it's not what we got.
In any event, here's part one of my interview with Peter McElvana.
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So we've got a great guest today.
As you guys know, I don't do a lot of guests because most people are dumb.
This guy's actually Wicked Smart.
It's a great friend.
He and I share a common friend and Sarah Carter, also wicked smart, but she's the drug czar right now.
So she can't talk shit anymore.
You just got to play it straight.
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So we're going to do it for her.
So Peter McElvanna is the founder and co-host of the Hearts of Oak podcast.
He's the former campaign manager for the UK Independence Party.
And now he's here with us because he's gotten smarter, wiser, brighter, younger, all the things.
He's got a great article in the Daily Signal.
For those of you that follow the podcast, follow my social media, you know how much I love babies and puppies.
Don't mess with the kids, don't mess with the animals, and we're going to be fine.
But in UK, they got a massive grooming problem, massive.
So they've had this ongoing rape trial that was supposed to be fully transparent, unfettered access to what was happening.
And Rupert Lowe is handling it over there.
Right, Peter?
Welcome to the show.
Jumping right in.
I know you're shocked.
And I'm really, I'm really upset about the fact that he did this crowdfunding.
He raised like $800,000 or something.
And now we don't know what's going on.
We're getting bits and pieces.
But I feel like between Sadiq Khan and between Keir Starmer and then we've got Yvette Cooper.
And as you can see, I'm really following this because I feel like whatever's happening in Europe is going to happen in the United States in five years.
Quite frankly, I think it's already happening here.
But people are just like asleep at the switch.
So I agree.
And as I haven't had a job offer with the Trump administration, so I'll say it in the first time.
So that's what I'll say what I like.
And I fit in with your sentiments that we can talk whatever fits.
But this is an I mean, I was on opening War Room yesterday and talking about that this is all pattern recognition.
This is what is happening in the UK.
This has happened in Europe.
And this is why your American audience needs to understand because whatever happens across the pond will move over.
And Islam does not respect that little stretch of water, does not respect borders.
And you're finding that on your southern border with your mass immigration from the southern border, and there is no respect of, oh, this is a border, let's get our passports.
No, hell no, we just pile in.
And that's what we are seeing in Europe.
That's what we're seeing in the UK.
And the article I wrote on Daily Signal was highlighting the good and the frustration of what Rupert Lowe, Member of Parliament for in the southeast of England in Great Yarmouth.
And he was a member with Nigel Farage, who your audience I think will know well because he is a figure on the national stage.
And Rupert and Nigel had a clash, whatever that was, I have no idea, but they fell out.
And Rupert went to become an independent member of parliament.
And he launched this inquiry into the grooming gangs, the Muslim rape gangs that have been happening since at least 1975.
That was the first report we had in the Rotherham advertiser in that local newspaper.
So this will be going on for 51 years plus.
And everyone has failed to grasp this.
We are now up to 1 million girls affected.
That was Sarah Champion, who is a member of parliament for one of the epicenters of this area in Rotherham.
And she is a Labour MP.
So someone on the left who you wouldn't expect to actually highlight this issue, but simply because where she is, the member of Parliament, she has had to talk about this.
And credit to her, she has been vocal on this issue.
She has been too vocal and has been sacked by the Labour Party on at least one occasion, I think on a second occasion, because she highlighted the failures of the institutions to recognize the huge problem that we face with these Muslim rape gangs.
And she talked about, I think, in a Daily Mayor article, one of our UK newspapers, she talked about up to 1 million girls being affected.
That was about six years ago.
And you look at the figures of what has happened in the UK.
We have had 90 trials in 40 towns.
Some of those trials, those legal trials, have been up to 30 individuals.
We have had 550 individuals prosecuted, sentenced, prosecuted, and serving time in jail for mass rape of children.
And funnily enough, or not funny enough, over 90% of those individuals are Muslim Pakistanis.
So we do have a problem, a religious problem, a cultural problem.
But of course, the media don't want to talk about that because you don't want to race rats.
So that's kind of the little intro into where we are.
And Rupert Lowe is an independent MP has decided to do an inquiry because the government don't want to do one.
The government said they'll do one.
Or we've had 10 prior kind of inquiries into this issue, but all of them have gone round the issue.
All of them said this is a local issue.
It's not a national issue.
It's not religious.
It's cultural.
Blah, blah, blah.
We've had recommendations.
None of them were implemented.
And because of all of those failings, Rupert Lowe, credit to him, has started this inquiry.
And that's happening this week, is happening next week.
My frustration is that he didn't make it public.
It was going to be a public inquiry live stream for the public to see.
And for me, on this issue, you need transparency.
You need openness.
The public have to see what's happening.
You can cut the feed for some witnesses.
You can change the voice.
You can say for the next two hours, we're going to cut the feed.
We'll come back to you in two hours.
You can do all different things.
It's called technology.
And he's decided just to do a full, full stop.
And I wanted to go as a journalist and report on it and write for many U.S. publications to highlight what was happening.
But it was a uh-uh, you're not coming in, doors locked.
So I don't even know where it is.
And it's for are there any journalists there?
My understanding, no.
Even GB News, my understanding is no.
And I've looked into this.
I even, so Ripert Lowe, so this is just you and me, Linda.
So Riper Lowe put a picture on X and he said a picture of where it's a picture of him on a front table with a barrister, the legal representative, and Sammy Woodhouse, who is a survivor.
And I tried to locate it, you know, use chat and use, but AI failed miserably.
So I don't know where it is.
And even if it's happening, you need transparency.
The public need to know what's happening.
And transparency will expose the evils.
And therefore, we get justice.
And if you do it behind closed doors, it's not good.
So there's my intro to you, Linda.
So my question to you, and thank you for that intro because you are a wealth of knowledge on this subject.
And honestly, I read your article on the Daily Signal.
And if you haven't read it, everybody, please, Peter McAlvana, amazing article.
I'm actually going to bring it up because there was a point in here that you made that I thought was really poignant and important.
And the title of it is The Urgent Need for the UK's Muslim Rape Gang Inquiry and Lessons for the United States, which I agree with.
Your cat agrees with it too.
But it says here that there's over 1,400 reported rapes that they have just in Rotherdom.
And I'm trying to understand.
You know, I always say when you read things like that and you see these, these, you know, estimates, that's just what we know about.
That's not, that's not at all the number, right?
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So it's kind of like when we talk about Iran, when they say, oh, how many people have been slaughtered in the streets of Iran?
Well, if you read, you know, any of the woke left mainstream, they'll tell you it's, you know, 8,000, maybe.
First of all, 8,000 should not be, you should not be apathetic to 8,000.
Let's just start there.
But the bottom line is you go to WhatsApp and you're in a chat with people that are on the ground in Iran and they're telling you there might be 40 to 70,000 people dead.
We don't even know.
But I digress.
I think for this issue, there's two main questions I have for you.
The first is because of the onslaught of this Pakistani migration, and it's overwhelming.
I will tell you, I was in London five years ago and I was in Trafalgar Square and I felt like I was in Pakistan.
There were no white people.
There were no black people.
There were no Asian people.
There were just Pakistanis.
And I was walking through the streets and I was like, man, this is a little, this is weird.
You know, like I feel, I feel out of place.
And I hadn't been there.
I think I was there one time before, but I hadn't been there in many years.
So it was, it was a shock, to be honest.
And I asked other people who worked there, you know, at the hotels and such, and they were like, oh, yeah, we, we are the unicorns here.
everyone else is Pakistani.
So my question to you is who is implementing this need for this migration?
Where is this coming from?
Who is okay with it?
Because I have to assume that everyday British people, I mean, we look at Tommy Robinson, both of us are friends with him, and he is out there crushing it every day.
And millions of people are showing up.
You know, true British citizens.
They're not okay with this.
So, and you're right.
I wish I could take you to London, Linda, but actually it may not be a great experience.
So go with the history and what you remember.
But it is mass immigration.
And look, we had, and you get on your southern border.
We in the UK have that little stretch of water called the English Channel and that separates France from England.
I believe it's the busiest stretch of water for that size, about 30 miles wide.
And every ship goes through that because, of course, Britain is an island and therefore you need to bring in the goods either by air or by sea and by sea is the way you do it.
So we've got massive ports.
Sadly, our biggest port on a side issue is owned by Dubai ports.
So it's owned by the Middle East.
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Just to fit into this of Islam dominance.
But we've had mass immigration.
I think it changed in the 90s.
It changed under Tony Blair as prime minister, who brought in a new labor wave from 97 to 2000 until the conservatives came back in, conservatives and name only, came back in under David Cameron and then lots of other prime ministers ending in Boris Johnson and Rishi Sunak.
But under that labor, we had prior to that, we had maybe 30,000, 40,000 net migration figures.
That was actually, you could cope with that.
You could, those people could integrate.
Those could fit into society.
They get jobs.
They get education, fit into public transport.
All of that worked.
It was a juggling act, but that absolutely worked.
And then as you have faced on your southern border, suddenly the figures went up exponentially.
And we have now gone from 30, 40,000 net migration figure to 900,000.
Oh my God.
Just under a million.
So if you increase it by 30 times, you've got an issue.
But second to that, if you have that mass immigration from cultures and religions that don't fit into your way of life, you've got a problem.
If you've got a million coming in from cultures that want to integrate and be part of your society, then there's an argument to be made on whether that's good or bad.
Whenever that culture and religion are alien to your society, and that's where the problem fits, that we have got individuals coming over from societies that don't have any respect for women because Islam teaches women or second-class citizens.
They have half or a quarter of the right legally.
If there are any custody cases, the man gets automatic right to the children.
The woman does not.
If there's any divorce, the man says, I divorce you three times.
The woman is divorced.
She's on the street.
So none of this fits in to we are all equal because we are all made in the image of God.
And that's where it fits.
You abandon your Christian principles, if you abandon your understanding that we are all made in the image of God, we are all equal, whatever religion, race, color, creed, sexuality, whatever, we are all equal because we are made in the image of God.
When you move outside that to Islam, and Islam doesn't recognize made an image of God at all, therefore, you've got this inequality.
And you've got women being treated differently.
You've got those who leave Islam as apostates, treated horrendously and often subject to punishment of death.
You've got the whole issue of shame and honor, and how women are treated if they leave Islam, or if there is a divorce, or if a man sleeps a woman outside marriage, I believe it's to prove the man was not wrong.
The woman needs to produce up to four witnesses in a rape situation.
That's not going to happen.
So it is all geared towards against the woman and for the man.
And because of all of these, we have got a sudden imbalance.
We've got women being treated as dirt.
We've got men having the right to do what they want to do and take the woman if they feel they want to take them because that is how they believe.
So whenever you import a belief system, a way of viewing others that are not you, you've got a problem.
And that is the dire problem we have in the UK.
That's a dire problem.
In Germany, I've seen many signs.
I know, but in swimming pools, they have signs telling men not to sexually abuse women.
I kind of learned that in school.
Oh, but if you people who didn't come up in school in the UK or in Ireland, maybe they saw things differently.
And that is the problem.
We are expecting everyone to think the same, despite the fact that maybe you have a different educational upbringing.
And therefore, you bring men who've only seen women covered head to foot, which is what I see anywhere I go out in London, bar a handful of places, but 90% of London, you see the women head to foot, Friday prayers, the men all filling out in the footpaths, blocking the footpaths.
The women, of course, don't have a right to go.
They need to go to a separate entrance because they're unclean.
All of this.
And we haven't had this grown-up conversation of whether this is positive for society or negative.
And then into that, you've got the rape gangs because the men see women not fully clothed.
Maybe the only woman they've seen fully clothed, unclothed, is their mother or their sister.
And they see these women and they think they have the right to take them and do as they want.
And we simply are not having an adult grown-up conversation of is this good for society or is this bad?
And you will have the same conversation in America.
It's not only a problem up in Michigan, it's a problem in Texas, a problem in California, it's a problem in New York and X and Florida and on.
And you need bold leaders to actually stand against this.
And not just as the, I don't mean to criticize any of your politicians, but as one of your governors have announced that we're banning Sharia.
What does that mean?
You need to go through the House and the Senate of the state, pass legislation and do it step by step.
A decree does not stop anything.
You need to legally go through the process.
No, I think, first of all, I agree with you.
I mean, a hundred times over.
I, you know, when I was in school, I studied the Quran.
I wanted to understand my enemy.
And I was, I mean, I remember people saying, well, you shouldn't say they're your enemy.
I'm like, they are my enemy because Allah and Islam is not compatible with anything other than Allah and Islam.
It's not they're not compatible with the West or the East or they're not compatible with anything.
There is no place, no time in history, ever, anywhere, past or present. that we have ever seen Islam come into any society and not take over, maim, rape, kill in the name of their God.
And obviously, when you talk to people, they know nothing.
They don't know what a kafir is, which is a non-Islam person.
They don't know what the practice of tiqiyah is.
They don't understand that people who practice Islam think all of what we're seeing as horrible as completely and utterly accepted by Allah.
Now, Allah obviously was a pedophile.
Those of us who actually read and know our history are fully aware that this man thought it was fine to take a child and rape them and rape them again until they were able to procreate and then rape the kids that he made with the child.
I'm like, what is happening?
Now, what I am having trouble with, and this is what I continue to say to many people, when I look at Keir Starmer, now I think Keir Starmer is a seckless moron.
So we'll put that over there.
I don't want to get you in trouble because you have to live there.
I am afraid sincerely for you guys.
What in God's great name is going on with Keir Starmer?
He's married.
He has kids, right?
Doesn't he have children?
I believe he has two children, yes.
Yes.
I'm trying to understand as a parent.
Like there are certain people like Angela Merkel, right?
It's just like a complete silo weirdo.
No kids.
You want to pass laws about children and all the things.
It's ridiculous.
Like you don't have kids.
You don't know what it is to talk about vaccines or schooling or like it's it's an unknown area for you.
You speak of things you know nothing about.
That to me is very irritating.
You can give an opinion, but you can't speak from a place of knowledge.
Now, when it comes to Islam, I felt like, oh, I need to speak from a place of knowledge.
So I'm going to study this.
Then we have Keir Starmer and here he's like, nope, X is terrible.
We're going to scan all your phones when you come into the country.
We're going to arrest you for social media posts.
And that Muslim guy over there who's 63 years old who just raped a little boy, he's fine.
He can go.
And I'm like, I'm sorry.
I just don't understand.
Either they've got pictures of him, they have paid him off.
I just like, it's kind of like when you look at the Epstein files and everybody in our country is freaking out about the Epstein files.
And I'm like, okay, like for me, it's not that I'm not interested.
It's just that there is so much demonic behavior happening.
And I say that with sincerity, not as, you know, sort of this adjective to be tossed lightly.
It is demonic.
You are tapping into something that is so evil.
And I truly feel like if you're not taking care of your elderly and you're not taking care of your kids, we got a massive issue.
So this is an entire culture that does not like women, likes to abuse children, thinks dogs are dirty, like all these helpless things.
And it seems like, oh, but, you know, every culture is different.
I'm like, no, I don't ever see a Hasidic person or a Sikh person or a Buddhist person and think, oh, I hope they don't stab me.
I hope they don't rape me.
You know, like we got all these 2A freaks here in the United States.
And they're like, oh, that's, I'm like, are you going to ban knives in the UK?
Because we got a massive stabbing problem going on.
Like it's, it's not, it's not your weapon of choice.
It's the person using the weapon.
And to your point, until we can have an adult conversation, we never get to the answers.
And so I guess my, my question is when you're having this rape inquiry as it is, and I think you make excellent points about Lowe's decision because I thought we were going to get to watch this.
I thought we were going to get to hear from the victims because when you hear from the victims, there's a child bride.
I'm sure you've seen her out on X right now.
And she's been giving her testimony when she was sold into sex slavery from Iran.
She managed to escape.
I don't know how.
And I'm not going to, I wouldn't, even if I knew, I wouldn't divulge it because I would hope somebody else could use that same path, right?
But she talks about what it is like to be seven and married to a 50-year-old man who probably could be your grandfather and instead is raping you every day and being and you're being passed around and what that is.
And I don't, whenever I hear things like sexually assaulted or sex trafficked, I get very upset.
I'm like, it's not sex.
It's rape.
It's assault of the worst kind.
And so when I see Kier Starmer full circle back to him, not speaking out, but instead clamping down on transparency, shutting down X, shutting down social media posts.
Why?
What's he getting out of it, Peter?
So that is a big question.
Right?
Wow.
So, okay.
So Kier Starmer, look, we've just seen the raids on the X offices in France.
The UK have got some of the most stringent restrictions on free speech in the Online Safety Act.
The Europeans did the Digital Services Act within days of the UK.
So obviously they're working together.
Australia have been working on other restrictions as well.
We seem to have, to me, it boils down to we seem to have the elites worried about the transfer of information and they're no longer controlling it because in the UK, the BBC, just like the PBS and the US, they no longer have their hands on, they no longer control the flow of information.
And when Musk came in, for all his faults, actually he shook the whole system up.
And he said, actually, X is going to be a free speech platform.
And he has done a great deal on highlighting the rape gangs in the UK.
I remember waking up.
It's not a year ago.
Oh, my goodness, when I was over in Northern Ireland at Christmas a year ago and waking up on the 1st of January, 2025, looking at my phone and seeing Elon Musk was promote, was posting about Tommy Robinson.
And I thought, maybe I'm dreaming.
This is just a good dream.
I should go to bed again.
But no, he was highlighting the work that Tommy was doing.
He'd highlighted the work of others in opposing mass immigration in a couple of months up to them and then has highlighted the failings of these Muslim rape gangs, the grooming gangs across the UK.
And without him, actually, this would not be an international incident.
This would remain a UK problem.
But because of individuals like Elon Musk, we've had a light shone on this and has been exposed.
And Kier Stormer, well, Elon Musk calls him two-tier care for the two-tier legal system and judicial system, a political system that we have in the UK.
And Keir Stormer, as many others, was happy to turn a blind eye to rape gangs.
And it could take two years, three years for those individuals to get to court and get to trial.
But hey, if you stand up against mass immigration, we will make the courts run day and night and we will send you to jail in 48 hours.
Where was that urgency for the rape gangs?
And it is, it is, I share your anger, Linda, times 10, living here and other anger at our politicians for thinking the problem is those who highlight the injustice as opposed to the problem being those who commit the crimes.
And that is where we are in the UK.
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That's where we are in Europe in terms of Sweden having fallen, in terms of Germany having huge issues in terms of France having and Spain.
But in Europe, we've got a political uprising.
We've got Maloney in Italy doing what she can do, less than what we thought, but actually maybe getting on board.
The AFD pulling top in Germany, the FPO pulling top in Austria, Orban doing what he is doing, pulling together.
I know the Patriots of Europe.
So there's a lot happening in Europe.
Sadly, in the UK and Ireland, we are on the back foot.
And despite the good work I think that Nigel Farage is doing on the reform party, despite the fact that actually he could be prime minister in 2029 at the next election, he is afraid of tackling the issue of Islam.
And that's why I think we will fail in the UK to address this problem.
So to that point, I was looking at, you know, Maureen Penn and how now they're trying to completely block her from doing anything because she did just that.
She spoke out and she said, I will clear the streets of Paris.
I will make sure that you guys are all repatriated to wherever the hell you came from.
You know, if you're from North Africa, if you're from Tunisia, if you're from Pakistan, wherever the hell you're from, get on a boat, paddle your ass back.
We're not even going to send you.
Use that energy that you're using to tackle every single single woman at the champs-alyse or beneath the Eiffel Tower.
You know, a good kick in the pants never hurt anybody.
But Macron, I mean, where do you go with Macron?
What a douche.
But I mean, it's just, I mean, how much time do you have, right?
I mean, everybody gets so caught up in him and his wife or whatever she is.
I could give a shit less, honestly.
I only care about one thing.
What you do in your personal life, I really don't care about.
I don't.
I really care when you try to push that shit on kids, when you hurt kids, and when you hurt puppies.
I stick to those things.
That's where I live.
If you, as two consenting adults, want to do whatever you want to do and act like a bunch of freaks in your bedroom, knock yourself out.
Just leave everybody else out of it.
That's all.
That's where we get lost with them.
Because again, it comes back to being demonic.
And when I look at what's happening in Ireland, I mean, my God, they not only, they had problems, right?
Then they elect the most socialist leader of their time.
Now, I will say this very gently.
I do not believe that the Irish people elected this woman.
I do not.
I believe that what we are uncovering now in the United States and what we've known since we've seen the 2020 election, and I think that we will begin to discover more if the people at the helm of it keep up their courage, you know, have the balls to continue to look into what actually is happening with elections, which I believe is nefarious.
And it's not about any particular company.
I think this has probably been going on for 25, 30 years.
But I truly believe that it is worldwide.
And I think it is global terror.
You know, in some countries, they don't give a shit, right?
They're like, oh, you want an election?
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Well, tough shit.
We're not doing it.
I'm the boss.
Get in line.
Fine.
Okay.
That happens.
At least we know where everybody stands.
All right, you guys, we're going to leave it right there for now.
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