A Mother Missing: Nancy Grace on Crime, Ransom, and Hope
In the final hour, Sean Hannity is joined by crime expert Nancy Grace for an in-depth analysis of the disturbing disappearance of Savannah Guthrie’s 84-year-old mother. Nancy breaks down the forensic evidence, ransom communications, and investigative signals that suggest the case may involve a coordinated kidnapping. The conversation expands into a broader examination of America’s crime crisis, victim advocacy, and why high-profile cases should remind us that crime spares no one. This powerful hour blends expert insight, personal testimony, and a call to refocus national attention on every victim. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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If you want to be a part of the program, the national interest in the case of Savannah Guthrie of the Today Show and the abduction of her 84-year-old mother, and we're trying to piece together what may have happened.
And I will say that people's attention to this is very, very helpful to law enforcement.
And a little bit of public pressure does often go a long way.
We've invited our friend Nancy Grace to be on the program to analyze all of this.
She has become the premier expert, frankly, on the issue of crime in the country based, you know, out of her own experience and tragedy that she just went into, which, you know, honestly, Nancy, you're bringing tears to my eyes.
All the pain that you've been through in your life.
I just hate that for you.
On the other hand, I'm happy you've come out of this on the other side and help so many different people in these situations.
And you have a beautiful, you know, daughter, a husband you love, a husband that's crazy about you.
And it's amazing the resiliency you have shown in life.
And I think you're a great example for all of us.
Going back to this case, everything that you put together.
Hold on, hold on.
Did I mess up?
You mentioned my husband.
You left out my big boy.
Oh, yeah.
I didn't mean to forget your son who's a great kid, by the way.
I didn't mean to do that.
Six, growing, and I'm flying back as fast as I can put the pedal to the mail to get to his soccer game tonight.
Well, that's important.
Soccer means everything.
Sports mean everything for kids.
I spent every weekend of my kids growing up beers at tennis tournaments, and they both became D1 athletes.
But let's go back to Savannah and this case.
And what does frustrate me, Nancy, and this is separate and apart, and I want to make sure I draw a very clear line of delineation here.
What frustrates me is in the month of January in Chicago, over 130 some-odd people shot, you know, nearly 30 of them dead.
Nobody knows their names.
You know, all the people that ICE has arrested, murderers, known terrorists, rapists, child molesters.
And I know people may have issue with some of their tactics, et cetera.
Okay, that's fair game.
However, they never get any credit for the good work they're doing.
I mean, tens of thousands of people have been deported because they put their lives on the line for us.
And I want attention to all lives, you know, being given equal measure here.
But with that said, you know, we're talking specifically about Savannah, her mom, Nancy, 84, bad health, and the information we have right now.
What does your gut tell you?
Because my gut's telling me, uh-oh, ransom, famous, wealthy person.
You know, it's very common in countries like Mexico, countries in Latin America.
This goes on all the time.
I hope it's not going to be coming to a city near you.
Well, here's a shocker.
People always say, why this case and not that case?
FYI, I cover missing people every single day on crimestories and crimeonline.com every single day.
When there is a case like this that attracts national attention, it teaches us something like the Lake and Riley case, the beautiful nursing student that was murdered at the UGA campus by an illegal alien with a criminal history.
Look, I'm Irish.
I'm a mutt.
Somewhere way back when, somebody was allowed to come to this country and make something of themselves, and they did.
And I'm for that.
I am not for criminals in our country preying on our American citizens and visitors.
That case made a statement like this case is making a statement.
Jocelyn Nungari, 12 years old, Nancy.
Brutally raped and murdered.
And Democrats wouldn't even stand when the president recognized their families.
I'm like, at that moment, I felt like they lost their heart, their soul, and their conscience.
And her body left in kind of a bayou situation.
This little girl.
But you know what?
I'm not a Democrat or a Republican.
I am an American, and I do not like victims being preyed upon.
That said, when there is a high-profile case like Nancy Guthries, it brings attention to the fact that crime knows no boundaries.
You can be rich.
You can be poor.
You can be white.
You can be black.
You can be Hispanic.
You can be a woman.
You can be a child.
It doesn't matter.
And what it says to me is that this 84-year-old lady minding her own business, coming home from a church pot, look, for Pete's sake, can be victimized by animals, then what about us regular people?
What about the regular person like my family?
What about them?
We don't have a chance.
So what I'm saying is I want these a-holes brought in.
Number one, I want Nancy alive.
But number two, there is nowhere to hide once we get a hold of you, man.
And it is a man, I guarantee you.
This is what makes you so special.
Because, I mean, your whole heart and soul is invested in this, and it's infectious.
And I hope people, we have a very big audience in Arizona and in Tucson and in Phoenix and all over the country.
And I want everybody to get a good look at the picture of Nancy.
And hopefully they can give, you know, maybe a sighting occurs.
Something happens that can tip off law enforcement so they can, you know, find this woman, get her home to safety because she's in ill health.
And, you know, some neighbor came out and went, hey, I went by her a place at 6.45 a.m.
And nothing was happening to suggest it happened after 6.45.
No, it was all over.
It was over by 6.45, I believe.
That's why they didn't see anything.
So I'm really thinking it was in the early morning hours from other information I've obtained that has not gone to air yet.
I think it was in the early, early morning hours.
I think there's a chance she could still be alive.
You want a ransom?
You may have to show proof of life.
Hello?
If this were just a rape or a robbery or a killing, she would have been found in that home.
That did not happen.
They've got her.
And if they want any money, they better keep her alive.
Let me ask you, and this is a tough question, but you're the only one that I can think to ask this question of.
Is it in a circumstance like this?
I mean, if you have money or access to money, is it better to make it available and pay?
If it were me, I would pay because I would want my child.
I would pay too.
My child.
Hell yeah.
And I know that's the wrong answer.
The person back.
I know I'm never get the perk, but if I could just get my child or my husband or my mother, yes, I give whatever I've got.
Now, do you work with law enforcement on that?
I think you have to, right?
I mean, we have professional.
I mean, this is all they do.
They're hostage negotiators.
They deal in IT.
We have IT experts at the Yazoo.
Artificial intelligence is real.
I'm hopeful that technology is going to lead us to the person responsible for this.
And it does give me hope that we keep advancing technologically, that they may have tools that they didn't have five years ago.
Oh, absolutely.
I keep wondering about the cell towers, Sean, because they can isolate who was in that neighborhood, basically on that street, for Pete's sake, between, let's just say, 9.45 and p.m. and 11 a.m.
And then narrow it down and see what numbers are still in the area that would rule out neighbors and what numbers have left the area.
I mean, it takes a lot of manpower.
And apparently there are about 100 detectives there, the FBI.
And again, a lot has been said about recent suspects.
I find it very difficult to believe there's a suspect now, and they haven't nabbed him.
Okay.
So that said, a lot is happening.
They've renewed the search.
There are helicopters back out.
There's an extensive ground search going on right now.
It had earlier been reported it had been called off.
I think it had been called off for that day or for a 24-hour period.
They're back out there, and that is very heartening to me.
That means they think they've got a chance finding something.
You know, I recently watched a documentary on the Elizabeth Smart case, and I did cover that at the time.
And I got to know Ed Smart, and I remember when they were very suspicious of the family.
It was never the family, and it ended up being some handyman that had done some work at the house, and they never thought of it.
It was only when the younger sister who was in the room when Elizabeth was abducted, that she just, you know, that memory came back to her.
I'm sure she was traumatized too.
She was a young girl.
And that is what led them to this lunatic that had taken her hostage.
And thank God she came back alive.
I'm sure her life is never going to be the same, but at least they found her alive.
At least she was found alive.
She is an amazing example of fortitude.
They have survived, and they're an inspiration, all of them, the whole family.
Yeah, they really are.
You're a national treasure, Nancy Grace.
I believe we have you on Hannity tonight.
We look forward to having you.
The work you do, you're doing God's work.
And out of the ashes of personal tragedy, you have turned that into something so good and helpful for so many.
And I just admire you that much.
I'm very grateful that you come on the program.
And honestly, I trust you about as much, if not more, than the police of cracking this.
I got carried the whole way through it all.
And, you know, I was being carried on Christ's back the whole way through.
And now I have this awesome family.
No, life is never the same.
It is never the same.
There's no such thing as closure.
But you can keep going.
You can persevere.
You're a survivor.
You're a fighter.
And you're doing a lot of good for a lot of people.
And I know that your attention to this matter means a lot to a lot of us.
Nancy, we love you.
Appreciate you.
We'll see you tonight.
Thank you for being with us.
See you tonight.
Bye, friend.
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All right, let's get to our busy phones.
Let's say hi to, well, an angel brother out of Texas is calling us, lost his sister, apparently, to a cartel member.
I assume you don't want to give your name, so we won't give you one.
Hey, Sean, you made my day.
I cherish this moment being able to talk to you.
Yes, I am, my family, we had that happen, and it happened over 10 years ago.
It was an unsolved homicide, but we know what happened because there was a survivor that hid, and he lived to tell the story to my family.
And the word is that he got on a plane next day and flew back to Colombia.
And, you know, when these things happen to a family, it's a big eye-opener.
And as your wonderful, graceful lady guest just said, that it stays with you forever.
But Texas is turning into hell.
I just got to tell you, there's so much crime, and it is illegal immigration and displaced people.
And my view on it is that when somebody is in a country illegally, it may not be true, but they have the mindset that they're invisible and that they're undetectable.
So they are more likely to get involved in crime of all different types.
And I've just lived it.
I've seen it so much of it through the years.
It's just, you know, I'm sharing this story with.
This is what frustrates me.
I mean, you have all of these known terrorists and murderers and rapists and child molesters, drug dealers that have been bravely arrested by ICE.
They have put their lives on the line and now they're being called the Gestapo and Nazis and fascists.
Now they're trying to keep people safe and secure.
And all of this caused by liberal Democrats that had wide open borders.
And it's just infuriating me because people like you and Nancy Gray should not have to live through the hell you live through because we're allowing people unvetted into this country.
And like what Nancy said, I support immigration, but legal immigration that includes a background check to make sure you don't have radical associations, a health check, and to make sure that financially you're not going to be a burden on the American people.
It's not complicated and it's not burdensome.
And the SAVE Act is about not letting illegals impact our elections by voting.
All of this needs to be rectified if we're going to have a country.
Reagan said a country without borders will not survive.
We're not going to be a country unless we know who's coming into this country.
And if you want to know how bad illegal immigration can get, you know, look at Great Britain with their 80, 85 Sharia courts.
Look at no-go zones in Europe.
Look at, you know, unfettered illegal immigration without assimilation.
And that will be America.
Everyone needs a gut check.
We have got to keep criminals out of our country.
I'm so sorry what happened to you and your family.
I do appreciate your call.
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You know, after talking to Nancy Gray, I hear John Androsik of 5 for Fighting in the background.
This music up.
It's like you need.
It just feels like the moment, doesn't it?
I just kind of wish that there would be a Superman that emerges.
that can save these lives and that we wouldn't be living through an insane period of time where the people that are actually putting their lives on the line and arresting murderers, known terrorists rapists, child molesters.
They're demonized with regularity as being Gestapo and Nazis, and it just continues, all for political purposes.
They don't care about people.
If they cared, if Democrats cared about people, they would have fixed what we've been covering for 20 plus years.
All the people shot and shot and killed in Chicago.
They don't lift a finger to fix it.
They don't care.
If they cared, they'd fix it, but they can't weaponize it, they can't politicize it.
So why bother?
You know the same people that would applaud the, the courage of ICE agents and and not be inciting and dehumanizing the very people that are risking their lives to arrest them.
They wouldn't do it and trust me, I'm.
I'm not.
What's happening with Savannah Guthrie's mom is awful.
I mean, there are countries that deal with with kidnappings and ransom pretty much on a daily basis, and you know, I know people that live in Mexico, for example.
I mean, remember how bad it was getting at one point.
Linda in Mexico is awful.
The cartels, it's not much better.
Yeah, that's true, it really isn't.
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All right, let's get to our busy phones.
Let us say hi to Tim in Iowa.
Tim, hi, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hey, Sean.
Thanks.
I was just thinking the other day, and I did not watch the Grammys.
I have no intention of watching those kind of shows.
I'm not interested in what they're going to say.
Most of the entertainment isn't really that much entertaining.
But I got to hear all the commentary afterwards.
And one of the things that came up was everybody wearing the pins and all the pins.
And I had to think there's got to be a way we can counter that, that we can claim that high ground on them.
They want to be ice out.
Why don't we get something like angel pins and everybody wear angels to think of all the families that have lost loved ones and the people that have been killed by illegals?
And it's just a quiet thing.
And if they want to be upset about us wearing an angel, let them.
Listen, I'm all in favor of all of it.
And I will tell you, this issue really needs to get into the consciousness of our nation.
We need to understand.
Now, I go back and I keep repeating myself, but there's a tipping point moment in this whole discussion when Lake and Riley's family and Jocelyn Nungari's family was introduced a year ago when Donald Trump just got back into office and he gave a session, joint session speech before Congress, and they would not stand for the families of Lake and Riley or Jocelyn Nungari.
If you can't stand for families that lost their loved ones because of unvetted Biden-Harris Maorcas illegals that all Democrats either lied about and said wasn't happening or they just sat quietly and were complicit and let it happen, then I'm telling you, you don't have a heart, a conscience, or a soul.
What Biden did and what Harris did and Maorcas did is the single greatest preventable national security disaster in the history of our country.
No other way to put it.
And they didn't care.
And they're still to this day protecting this madness that they have inflicted on this country.
With all the talk about ice, is out there doing their job.
They're all risking their lives.
I'm not saying every situation has been perfect.
I'll never say that.
You're going to have, you know, human beings are imperfect, and there's always room for improvement.
I'm willing to have constructive criticism, dialogue, discussion about any of it.
But the overwhelming number of hundreds of thousands of people, real criminals they have deported has made our country more safe and more secure.
The alternative is to do nothing.
What the Democrats want to do, what Chuck Schumer says he wants to do, and reward people for not respecting our laws, borders, and sovereignty.
That's not an option for me.
And it's a disgrace that this is what this party now wants to run on, disgrace that they want to shut the government down over it.
Disgrace they want to dismantle and defund and, you know, reimagine the police and then, you know, any, you know, no cash bail, all this insanity.
And if this does not motivate you to get off your ass and vote this midterm election year, I don't know what will because everything is on the line.
All Trump progress will stop, and we will be in full 24-7 investigative mode, impeachment mode, and none of it will be good for the country.
But that's where they want to take us.
It's about power.
It's chilling.
I like your idea.
Anyway, good call.
800-941-Shawn is on number.
Dennis in Long Island, New York.
What's up, Dennis?
How are you?
Where do you live in Long Island?
Farmingdale, Long Island.
Oh, Farmingdale.
Well, very well.
Yeah.
There's a White Castle on Route 110.
Used to go there.
Every time I passed it, I couldn't pass by without stopping.
You might have been ahead of me in the line way back when.
Either ahead or behind.
It doesn't matter.
I still got my belly buster.
You know, I've come from, you know, my mom raised me in a broken home.
And I used to have, she used to have the White Castle frozen in the freezer so we could sit there.
And I had a sucker.
They're actually not bad.
I can get them down here in Florida.
They're not bad.
You know, usually when you get something frozen, it's never as good.
But if you do it the right way and you don't put it in the microwave, you can actually make them taste almost as good as coming right out of a White Castle.
Almost.
I'll take your word on that.
You were discussing disgraceful.
I mean, you do saying disgraceful with these Democrats.
You know, obviously New York, I got to deal with Schumer, Jeffries, you know, making us look terrible.
I think it's all about power because the Save Act makes so much sense.
You know, it's logical, but they don't want to give up their power.
And, you know, if they did, if Congress just gets, I mean, if the Senate just gets, you know, hey, let's band together here, you know, soon and McConnell, let's go.
If they put this together, the SAVE Act, who knows?
New York might even be your red state.
I mean, for crying out loud, I pay the highest taxes, one of the highest taxes in the country, and my vote doesn't count every year.
It just doesn't count.
And it's very frustrating.
Just so frustrating.
Listen, Bruce Blakeman would be an amazing governor for the state of New York.
Yes.
Math does not work in his favor, unfortunately.
Now, am I still going to support him?
Of course I'm going to support Bruce.
He's done a great job in Nassau County.
He would do a great job for the state.
He could save the state.
But unfortunately, you know, a lot of people like me left New York.
And all these private equity companies, all these big banks, all these financial firms on Wall Street, they have packed up and they have left.
And most of them have like small remaining offices for their New York customers.
The rest of them, Wall Street South, they moved to Texas.
They moved to the Carolinas.
They moved to Tennessee.
They're out.
They're done.
But Wall Street South in South Florida is real.
Yeah.
My brother actually was smart enough 30 years ago to leave.
And he did 31 years or 30 years on the job in Fort Lauderdale City Police.
And as being disgruntled with all this, with the vote.
Let me tell you right now.
Let me guess.
Your brother's pretty wealthy because he bought a home 30 years ago and that home is worth 15 times what he paid for it, if not more.
I mean, I call him, you know, Gilligan and Skipper because he's got a boat and he hates the beach, but yet he went down to Fort Lauderdale and become a cop.
You know, he's smart.
I stayed up here and became a teacher in New York City.
So now you know what I'm dealing with with my socialist boss.
Well, are you almost done?
When you're done, get out of there.
You know, my accountants used to say to me every year, whatever you do, don't die in New York.
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I'd look at them.
I'm like, okay, I'll talk to God about that.
I'm 53.
I'm almost there.
And then I'm heading.
My wife's like South Carolina or Florida.
I'm like, I don't care.
Let me just get out of here.
And you know what?
I'll even give up being a Jet fan, you know, because my season's done in October.
So, you know, I start making it.
It's done in September usually, but who's counting?
Exactly.
Thank you for taking my call.
You bet, man.
Appreciate it.
Thank you, Dennis.
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Casey, San Diego, Cogo Radio.
What's up, Casey?
How are you?
Hi, Sean.
Thank you so much for speaking truth for all these years when a lot of people didn't have the courage to.
It's really refreshing because you hear so much on other stations and on the mainstream media.
You just can't trust it anymore.
And it's so relieving having you do that for the United States and for the world to hear.
So thank you for that.
And then, yeah.
Thank you.
I appreciate it.
So, yeah, about what we were talking about with crime, a lot of this crime that I'm noticing, it's all you see a lot of it in South America and other parts of the world.
And when I saw, my stomach dropped when I saw the borders wide open like that.
And every time I would turn on the TV, I was just like, oh my gosh.
Because I helped a lot of military veterans do mental health work for them.
And they were, you know, exposed to a lot of stuff that ISIS used to do, the women and children.
And I would listen to detailed stories as part of the therapy.
And just not knowing and just also knowing military people who are here who may wonder, hey, when there was unmanned border, how many of those people can, you know, would get in that might harm them too.
So it's just left, it just kind of made my stomach drop.
You know, I'm all for, you know, immigration, people coming wanting a better life.
But unfortunately, I feel like there's a bigger slice of the pie of people who just want to come in here with ulterior motives.
And that's why the idea of like having citizenship is so important because it gives like a focus.
Like if you do any kind of study, you have to know what you're focusing on because otherwise it gets lost.
So if people are coming in, they take no oath to be part of this country.
They don't have plans to integrate in it or to grow the country.
They're coming in without knowing the laws or rules that apply in this country.
And so basically they're taking wherever they're coming from and they're like putting their spin of wherever they're from onto our rules.
And it doesn't even line up.
It's like they have no idea the history, you know, the sacrifice that was done, you know, to build this country.
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I mean, that's why it's kind of a slap in the face, like when you see them just taking, because they think they're taking from our government, but they don't understand that we are the government.
And that's well, the problem is you have elected officials that are just giving and giving and giving your money and services away.
And it's in the hundreds of billions of dollars nationwide.
I mean, it's insane.
Yeah.
You raise great points.
And it's really bad where you are.
I've been down to the border and in San Diego where you are.
I've been all the way across, you know, the southern part of the U.S. where, you know, from the Rio Grande to San Diego.
And it is, you know, it's never been as bad than it was under Biden.
And he's made all of us vulnerable and it's costing us a fortune.
Your state can't balance a budget because of all those services you're offering illegals.
Right.
Got to run, Casey.
I appreciate you being with us.
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That's going to wrap things up for today.
We got a very busy Hannity tonight.
We will have the latest out of Minnesota: The Insanity of the Left and their Defund ICE movement and Defund DHS movement.
Also, we are officially on Iran watch.
President Trump announcing there will be no negotiations.
We'll have the latest on Savannah Guthrie's missing mom, Nancy Grace.
She will check in with us as well.
Also, Eric Schmidt, the senator from Missouri, Greg Jarrett, Clay Travis, Charlie Hurts, set you DVR tonight.