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Guaranteed Human
00:14:34
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| This is an iHeart podcast. | |
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| Sean, if you want to join us, Don Lemon, formerly a CNN, taken into custody for his involvement in that protest at that Minnesota church. | |
| I'm going to play you the, I'm going to remind you of what happened that day and what other people have testified to in terms of what happened that day. | |
| Linda, you're sending me that that I asked for. | |
| Now, let me just backtrack and tell you what the FACE Act is. | |
| And it was signed into law by President Bill Clinton in 1994. | |
| Republicans, Democrats in Congress passed it, and it served multiple purposes. | |
| One, to secure the right of a woman to enter an abortion clinic without any confrontation. | |
| And then the law explicitly protects religious freedom. | |
| The statute imposes criminal penalties on anyone who, quote, by force or threat of force or by physical obstruction intentionally injures, intimidates, or interferes with the attempts to injure, intimidate, or interfere with any person lawfully exercising or seeking to exercise the First Amendment right of religious freedom at a place of religious worship. | |
| Now, the left has historically been the biggest advocates of the FACE Act, mostly because of the abortion provision. | |
| Let's take you back to the very beginning and when this church was invaded. | |
| And let me play for you what went on. | |
| Now, we also have testimony from individuals in that church that they are saying that they were obstructed from leaving. | |
| They were prevented from leaving. | |
| Parents on record now saying to prosecutors, unsealed documents, that they were prevented from getting their own children in the child care center at that church that day by the people that invaded that church. | |
| Keep that in mind as you hear what they were then verbally abused with this attack. | |
| Listen to what was said. | |
| Renee Good, Renee Good, Renee Good, where are you, where are you, where are you? | |
| Where are your people? | |
| Why are you not at Whitble every day fighting for the humanity, standing for our people? | |
| Where are you? | |
| You drink your coffee, you got your jewelry, you have your nice clothes, but what do you do? | |
| What do you do to stand up for your Somali and Latino communities? | |
| I'm not going to comment. | |
| You have no comment. | |
| Exactly. | |
| All these comfortable white people who are living lavish, comfortable lives while children are dragged into concentration camps. | |
| You're living real life, nice lives with your lattes, doing absolutely nothing for your Latino and Somali brothers and sisters. | |
| You come here to a man wearing a suit is a preacher? | |
| Did Jesus wear a suit? | |
| Did Jesus profit off the words? | |
| No, Jesus would die with anyone. | |
| You do not touch me. | |
| Touch me again and see what happens. | |
| You are a fake Christian. | |
| Why are you not standing with your Somali and Latino communities? | |
| Why do I not see you out at Whitbull every day protesting this attack on humanity? | |
| Where are you? | |
| You're sinners. | |
| You're pretending to be Christians. | |
| But we know you live an easy life, don't you? | |
| A very easy life while people are starving. | |
| Shame. | |
| Linda, you might be able to help me. | |
| During the time that Jesus walked this earth and the son of man became man and took on human form, let me ask you, did they have suits back in that day? | |
| I don't recall. | |
| I don't remember that suits were a part of the attire back in the day. | |
| Do you remember any such thing? | |
| I don't remember that. | |
| I don't. | |
| I don't have to research that. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Whoever invented the tie, though, I could honestly one of the people I hate the most on this earth. | |
| All right. | |
| Now, the serious part of this. | |
| That day, Don Lemon with the organizers, bringing them donuts and coffee. | |
| At one point, I do believe he also, and we'll find out over time, was part of reconnaissance. | |
| So in other words, he knew that this was happening. | |
| Now, he does have a very good attorney, somebody that I know, like, and respect, Abby Lowell. | |
| And so that will probably serve him well. | |
| The question will be, he's going to try to claim he was acting as an independent journalist. | |
| This is Don Lemon being praised by the mob prior to the invasion as he brings them donuts and coffee. | |
| Don Lemon is on the front lines right now. | |
| Thank you now. | |
| Follow Don Lemon. | |
| He ain't on CNN no more. | |
| So he's right here in the front line. | |
| Come get some coffee. | |
| Hey, Don Lemon got some coffee for y'all. | |
| And donuts. | |
| And donuts. | |
| And he ain't talking about coffee. | |
| Coffee and donuts. | |
| And Don Lemon's right here on the front lines with us. | |
| Sounds like that makes him a participant in this. | |
| Then when he's in the church, I'll let you decide if you think he's implicating himself by offering his commentary in full, complete support of what they're doing. | |
| When you violate people's due process, when you pull people off the street and you start dragging them and hurting them and not abiding by the Constitution, when you start doing all of that, people get upset and angry. | |
| And if you remember what the civil rights movement was about, the civil rights movement was about these very kinds of protests. | |
| There's nothing in the Constitution that tells you what time you can protest. | |
| You can protest at any time. | |
| That's the whole point of it, is to disrupt. | |
| It's to make them comfortable. | |
| And that's what they're doing. | |
| And that's what I believe when I say everyone has to be willing to sacrifice something. | |
| You have to make people uncomfortable in these times. | |
| But the groups of people, did you hear how judgmental and all the racial overtones, comfortable white people with their lattes and so on and so forth? | |
| Now, if in fact these people on the record, and this will come out in testimony, are accurate, that they were obstructed from leaving the church and that their church was invaded. | |
| You know, I think the reading of the FACE Act is very, very clear, but we'll let the process unfold. | |
| I don't like to see anybody arrested, and I do believe in people's right to worship and worship freely without having, you know, mobs of people interfere with their freedom to practice their faith and their religion. | |
| Period. | |
| End of sentence. | |
| They have civil rights also. | |
| Now, apparently, it really doesn't sound like him in the audio, Linda. | |
| You're sure this is Don Lemon talking? | |
| Yeah, this is him. | |
| He was on a podcast. | |
| You saw the video? | |
| I didn't see the video. | |
| I did? | |
| Yep. | |
| Urging black and brown people to get a gun and shoot if they try to take you. | |
| And what's the guy's name? | |
| Wajahat Ali. | |
| I don't know who that is. | |
| Do you know who that is? | |
| I have no idea. | |
| Nobody cares. | |
| No, nobody cares. | |
| But, all right, let's play it. | |
| Black people, brown people of all stripes, whether you're an Indian American or a Mexican-American or whoever you are, go out in your place where you live and get a gun legally, get a license to carry legally. | |
| Because when you have people knocking on your door and taking you away without due process as a citizen, isn't that what the Second Amendment was written for? | |
| Go back and read what the Second Amendment says. | |
| And perhaps it will knock some sense in the head, in the heads of these people who are saying, well, it's all great. | |
| I don't believe they're doing it without due process. | |
| They're asking people for papers. | |
| They're not really beating people up. | |
| These people are doing things that are illegal. | |
| Nobody is illegal. | |
| It is a misdemeanor to cross the border. | |
| It is illegal. | |
| We have laws, and those are federal laws, and we have the supremacy clause. | |
| And the jurisdiction to enforce those laws happen to be with the federal government, not with local law enforcement. | |
| We have in this country in an invasion that took place, and we were lied to about it for four years, over 12 million. | |
| We don't know the exact number because of the many gotaways. | |
| We do know, and it has been confirmed because they have arrested known terrorists and murderers and rapists and other violent criminals and cartel members and gang members in this country and drug dealers in this country. | |
| And ICE has, I've scrolled the list and I've mentioned on this radio show. | |
| So, you know, there are consequences if you want to participate in this type of behavior and risk violating the law, then there are going to be consequences for your actions if we are to remain a lawful society. | |
| What's very dangerous, I don't take issue with the right to keep and bear arms of anybody. | |
| I'm a big Second Amendment supporter. | |
| Huge. | |
| Been my whole life. | |
| Pistol carry permit in New York and in New York City. | |
| It's very hard to get. | |
| Pistol carry permit when I lived in Rhode Island. | |
| Pistol carry, concealed carry permit in California in the 80s when I lived there. | |
| Concealed carry permit in Alabama. | |
| Concealed carry permit in Georgia. | |
| Concealed carry permit now in my free state of Florida. | |
| And when I went back to New York, got my concealed carry permit again there. | |
| So I've had it my entire adult life. | |
| But with that response, with that right comes a great responsibility. | |
| And this is where this guy, Alex Predi, I think, made a big mistake as evidenced by what happened and what he did. | |
| Now, the media reaction is swift. | |
| It's fast. | |
| It's predictable. | |
| Here's Liberal Jove reacting to the arrest of Don Lemon. | |
| He was covering the protests. | |
| That was my question. | |
| And if that is the case, if that's the case, that is indeed a chilling moment here for a journalist in the United States of America doing his job as a journalist and being charged for it. | |
| That is not. | |
| Did he conduct interviews inside the? | |
| I mean, I know the protest was happening, and so he followed the protest in to cover the story. | |
| Well, and think about the countries where journalists are targeted by the federal government, by their governments, Russia, China, Turkey. | |
| They're not democracies. | |
| I mean, this kind of thing, it's a shot across the bow, right, towards the free press. | |
| And it's scary. | |
| And similar comments from Humpty Dumpty and fake news Acosta, you know, in his case, he called Trump racist for allowing Don Lemon's arrest. | |
| Donald Trump didn't make that decision. | |
| Nice try. | |
| And I guess we're at a crossroads. | |
| And I've been saying this now for some time. | |
| And this is why elections matter, because if we have the most important midterms coming up in our lifetime, and the radical left, they are all in favor. | |
| They've now tripled down on sanctuary states and sanctuary cities. | |
| They've tripled down on open borders. | |
| They have tripled down on not enforcing the law. | |
| They've tripled down on defund, dismantle, no bail law. | |
| They're now fighting to defund ICE in the United States Senate and the United States House. | |
| That battle is going on today. | |
| We'll have details tonight. | |
| By the way, Tom Holman is doing his first interview tonight. | |
| We'll get into what he plans to do now that he's in charge in Minnesota, and he vows to stay there until the problem's gone. | |
| He predicted on this show and on my TV show, I'll play it later, that this reckless, this insightful, incendiary and dehumanizing rhetoric of Gestapo and Nazi was going to lead to violence. | |
| He predicted it many times on shows with me. | |
| And he's going to stay until the job's done. | |
| We're not going to stop enforcing the laws of our country just because they don't like it. | |
| But it is sad. | |
| I don't know how we reconcile our differences if people want open borders versus those that want law and order and secure borders. | |
| How do you reconcile those that want sanctuary cities and states and want to provide benefits and protections for people that didn't respect our laws, borders, and sovereignty? | |
| How do we reconcile, defund, dismantle, no bail, and reimagine the police with those that want law and order and safety and security, a prerequisite to pursue happiness? | |
| You know, Democrats just voted for the largest tax increase in history. | |
| Republicans voted for the largest tax cut in history. | |
| You know, Democrats, if they had their way, there'd be no drilling, fracking, mining, versus energy dominance, which is the lifeblood of the world's economy. | |
| And they want windmills and they want, you know, alternative energy that's expensive and doesn't work. | |
| How do you reconcile those that believe that America's military and military might is critical for the preservation of freedom? | |
| I don't know where the middle ground is. | |
| I don't see it. | |
| And you see, you see how hardened and entrenched and radicalized the left in this country has become. | |
| It is now a clear and present conflict and danger, I think, to the country. | |
| That's why you see this mass migration out of blue cities, blue states. | |
| They're losing congressional seats, and it's not going to stop. | |
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Never Give Hard Time
00:12:41
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| Greg Jarrett, who will join us later in the program today, has a great column out as it relates to Don Lemon. | |
| Got to give Lemon credit. | |
| He has a very good attorney. | |
| An attorney's name is Abby Lowell. | |
| Abby Lowell represented Hunter Biden. | |
| Abby Lowell represented Jared Kushner. | |
| There are very few really top-notch lawyers in Washington. | |
| He happens to be one of them. | |
| Now, it is, I'm sure, going to be his argument that he is, quote, an independent journalist. | |
| Greg Jarrett, who will join us later, put out an article on this, and he says it is a popular fallacy that freedom of the press enshrined in the First Amendment is absolute. | |
| He says it's not and never has been. | |
| And he talked about the recent arrest of podcaster Don Lemon on federal criminal charges that he willingly joined a mob of anti-ICE protesters that stormed the St. Paul, Minneapolis church. | |
| Again, I won't repeat myself, read the statute in the FACE Act during Sunday services will inevitably test this well-established limit on press freedom. | |
| Journalists, however defined, cannot without legal consequences engage in incitement, defamation, obscenity, threatened violence, national security breaches, commission of a crime, he writes. | |
| Calling yourself a journalist or claiming that you are simply committing journalism, as Lemon has done, he claims is not going to be a good defense. | |
| It is your behavior that the law will examine. | |
| Both words, well, it always has to do with the judge. | |
| It always has to do with the judge. | |
| Anyway, it is your behavior that the law will examine. | |
| Both words and actions can reveal intent. | |
| It's why Lemon found himself in criminal jeopardy. | |
| His own digital video seemed to incriminate him. | |
| In the footage posted online, it appears he was not merely an observer recording the illegal protest inside the church, which would be a typical role of a reporter. | |
| Instead, he seemed to be an active participant who embedded himself. | |
| And again, this is going to be ultimately for a prosecutor jury to decide with the mob and join their cause in harassing and tormenting parishioners. | |
| I don't think there's any doubt that the FACE Act applies to the case of the invasion of this church, in my view, my interpretation. | |
| Lemon also confronted the pastor with contentious questions the same way, you know, but handing out donuts and coffee, etc. | |
| Anyway, there are a ton of federal statutes. | |
| Not that I want to get too deep into the weeds in this. | |
| The Klan Act 1871 makes it a crime for anyone to conspire to intimidate, interfere with the civil rights of congregants. | |
| A different act codified 18 U.S.C. 247. | |
| There's also Provision 248, prohibits the intentional obstruction by force or threat of force, any person's free exercise of religious beliefs. | |
| The indictment charges Lemon with conspiring to deprive others of their civil rights, violating Base Act 18 USC, the section I just referenced, 248, Section 2, that strictly protects places of worship from threats, intimidation, interference, and, you know, the predictable outrage over the charges. | |
| You know, I'm sure that Abby Lowell will do his best, level best, to do this, you know, declaring this is an unprecedented attack on the First Amendment. | |
| It's going to be tested, and it's going to be tested big time. | |
| Lowell, by the way, represented Hunter Biden in two criminal cases resulting in convictions and guilty pleas. | |
| You know, and, you know, these are not, you know, cut and dry issues. | |
| Anyway, so we'll see what happens. | |
| We'll see what happens. | |
| I am having a hard time, Linda, understanding why the left is okay with all of this. | |
| I am beside myself. | |
| I have scrolled the names of all of these people that have been arrested thanks to the bravery, the courage, commitment of ICE officials in Minnesota. | |
| They have arrested murderers. | |
| They have arrested rapists. | |
| They have arrested child molesters. | |
| They have arrested drug dealers. | |
| They have arrested other violent criminals. | |
| They have arrested a ton of people, hundreds and hundreds of people. | |
| That makes the people of Minnesota more safe and more secure. | |
| That is law and that is order. | |
| And then I'm having a hard time understanding this demonization of ICE. | |
| And I'm having a hard time with the left and their never-ending, insightful comparisons to ICE, you know, calling them Gestapo and Nazis and fascists and worse. | |
| I'm having a hard time, you know, with organized efforts that immediately make their job more dangerous with these apps and these signal encrypted apps and these basically incite a mob apps that say, oh, okay, please join us right now. | |
| ICE is here. | |
| Come join us. | |
| Come interfere in law enforcement. | |
| I am stunned at the number of people that, I guess, support sanctuary cities and states. | |
| I am stunned at those that don't want to get these criminal illegals off the streets and back to their home country. | |
| I am stunned that they don't want the enforcement of our law. | |
| But I was stunned the last four years as millions and millions of unvetted Harris Biden Major Cas illegals made it into the country. | |
| At some point, you know, what party does this Democratic Party want to be? | |
| They now are holding up funding for the Department of Homeland Security. | |
| Maybe it ends in a government shutdown. | |
| Maybe it doesn't. | |
| Maybe it ends in a two-week, you know, continuing resolution and the rest of the government gets funded. | |
| I don't know how this is going to end. | |
| But it's of no, I guess I think Lindsey Graham is right in saying that we need laws that codify that you cannot be a sanctuary city or state by definition. | |
| I've said this forever. | |
| You're just aiding and abetting in lawbreaking, and you're even rewarding it by taking taxpayer dollars and spending it on health and education and other programs for illegals. | |
| And we see institutionalized fraud. | |
| For example, the Somali community, widespread fraud in Minnesota. | |
| We're now discovering that it is more institutionalized than we thought, that it's other states, other cities that will be investigated next. | |
| And I have no doubt hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars over time will be discovered as been fraudulent. | |
| I think we see evidence in Ohio, evidence in California, evidence in New York is now emerging. | |
| And on top of, you know, we know that whistleblowers have claimed that Tim Walz knew about it and did nothing to stop it. | |
| He didn't want to alienate a voting base that he thought was critical to his coalition to win elections. | |
| And that's the America we're now living in. | |
| And it's almost like they live in an alternate universe. | |
| And then they're angry at Donald Trump and they want to blame everything on Trump. | |
| The question is, do we want to be a nation of laws or not? | |
| I can't think of a bigger midterm election than this one coming up because those people that have been out there that have been inciting other people, mobs, | |
| to stand out and obstruct ICE from doing their job and confronting them and tipping off people, which takes away the element of surprise and making their lives more difficult and dangerous, that others are okay with this. | |
| It's now America, you know, with two very different, separate visions and ideology for the future of our country. | |
| One believes in law and order and safety and security. | |
| One believes in defund, dismantle, no bail, and reimagine the police. | |
| One believes in sanctuary cities and states. | |
| One believes that we shouldn't enforce immigration law. | |
| And one believes, no, that especially illegal immigrant criminals need to be deported because they didn't respect our laws, our borders, and our sovereignty. | |
| We have one group of people that wants America to give up the most inexpensive lifeblood of the world's economy, oil, gas, and coal. | |
| And they want to replace it with unproven and expensive alternatives like wind farms and solar panels. | |
| One wants to drill and to frack and to mine and for America to be energy dominant. | |
| You know, one party is the party of tax cuts and taking care of working men and women. | |
| No tax on tips or overtime. | |
| Taking care of the elderly, no tax on Social Security. | |
| You know, one party doesn't want any of that. | |
| They voted for the largest tax increase in history. | |
| They give a lot of lip service to caring about working men and women, but when the moment came to support them and give them the biggest tax cut they could ever want, they were nowhere to be found. | |
| And that's where we now find ourselves as a country. | |
| You know, we'll see, you know, reports that Trump and Schumer have reached this deal on funding. | |
| You know, we'll find out how this ultimately goes down probably during my show tonight on Hannity. | |
| I also have Tom Homan on tonight. | |
| Seth Moulton has agreed to come on tonight, Linda. | |
| He actually thinks it's okay to make comparisons of ICE to Nazis. | |
| I have a big problem with that. | |
| But we'll have a discussion if he wants a discussion. | |
| If he doesn't want a discussion, I'll send him packing. | |
| That's up to him. | |
| What you should do is you should show pictures of American citizens murdered by illegal aliens and say, what's their name? | |
| Do you know their name? | |
| What's their name? | |
| I've done that before, as you know. | |
| Oh, many times you have. | |
| And with the Chicago victims. | |
| David Axerod warning Democrats not to campaign on abolishing ICE. | |
| People believe you should come to the country legally. | |
| Been playing that cut of Obama repeatedly. | |
| You know, but this is going to be the biggest choice election in our lifetime, and the consequences can't be bigger. | |
| They really can't. | |
| The consequences will be severe. | |
| By the way, we have a Hunter update. | |
| You know, he's got this little girl that Joe never mentioned. | |
| Remember, we talked about Joe never mentioned his granddaughter. | |
| He put up a Christmas stocking for the dog, but not for the Hunter's daughter that apparently is ghosted, according to this article in the New York Post, seven years old, apparently with an ex-stripper. | |
| I could care less that, you know, she's a mom because he never agreed to be a part of her life. | |
| What kind of person does that? | |
| How could you have a child and not want to be a part of that child's life? | |
| That's something I'll never comprehend. | |
| I'm not saying you have to be the most perfect person in the world, but that to me is incomprehensible. | |
| I don't understand it. | |
| There's certain things that people do in life that I scratch my head and I'm like, why? | |
| You know, you could see the differing philosophies unfold. | |
| I mean, you know, did you read, Linda, that 10 people died in New York City, your former hometown? | |
| I know you're in Pennsylvania now, but did you see Mamdani told the NYPD they couldn't tear down the homeless encampments and then 10 people died from the freezing cold? | |
| I guess it's what, below zero now overnight where you are? | |
| Yeah, it's like minus four. | |
| 10 people, you know, Mr. Freeze, I guess we can call him. | |
| It's remarkable to me because they don't want to violate the civil rights and end these homeless encampments. | |
| Former New York City Mayor Giuliani blasting him. | |
| Thinks the city should be forcing homeless people off the streets. | |
| They're going to die. | |
| Can you think of any worse way of dying than freezing to death? | |
| It's remarkable. | |
| Now Mamdani ordered the NYPD not to remove homeless people to shelters weeks before 10 of them. | |
| They're dead. | |
| By the way, I bet people don't know their names. | |
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Silicon Valley's Homeless Crisis
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| Another article, they have this big referendum in California. | |
| They're going to tax billionaires. | |
| Now, Silicon Valley has a lot of billionaires. | |
| I'm not jealous of people that have more stuff than I do. | |
| Doesn't mean they're happier than me. | |
| One of the co-founders of Google, Sergey Grin Brin, and the former Google CEO Schmidt have banded together some of Silicon Valley's wealthiest moguls to create a new pro-business organization poised to lobby against this billionaire's tax. | |
| It's going to be retroactive for January. | |
| Larry Page, Google, gone. | |
| Larry Ellison, gone. | |
| You know, unbelievable. | |
| Now, President Trump had to step in in California to block low-income housing in the Pacific Palisades. | |
| I'm not going to let it happen and help people get their building permit. | |
| And meanwhile, Gavin Newsom is just continuing to stalk Donald Trump every second, every minute, every hour of every day. | |
| By the way, my free state of Florida is one again. | |
| D-Wave Quantum Inc., publicly traded, pioneer, quantum computing, announced they're relocating from Silicon Valley to Boca Raton. | |
| Not that far from where I am. | |
| Florida represents one of the fastest-growing technology ecosystems. | |
| I'm telling you, Wall Street South, forget it. | |
| Every big finance company, bank, private equity firm, they're all in the free state of Florida, all of them. | |
| And they're going to Texas and they're going to Tennessee and the Carolinas. | |
| All right. | |
| Hope it's working out for these guys. | |
| No wonder why. | |
| Highest income tax, sales tax, gas tax. | |
| Well, you provide so much in terms of benefits to illegals in the sanctuary state of California, they can't afford to make their budget meet. | |
| And now they're going to chase more billionaires away. | |
| How stupid are they? | |
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