Unraveling the Deep State: A Look at Accountability and Justice
In this compelling episode of The Sean Hannity Show, Sean dives deep into the ongoing controversy surrounding the FBI's actions during the 2016 election, featuring insights from guests like Carter Page, Marco Rubio, and Pam Bondi. As Sean explores the implications of recent developments surrounding James Comey and the investigation's broader narrative, he underscores the frustrations of many Americans concerning accountability for past misdeeds. With revelations on the misuse of FISA warrants and the exculpatory evidence that was overlooked, this episode sheds light on a complex web of political and legal challenges. Tune in for a thought-provoking discussion that seeks to untangle the issues of justice in the current political landscape.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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By the way, we are in the swamp.
We're in D.C. Secretary of State Marco Rubio tonight.
The Attorney General Pam Bondi tonight.
Ted Cruz, Lindsey Graham together.
That ought to be entertaining.
But a lot happening here as we speak.
So we have an update on the Comey situation.
And, you know, I get asked this all the time.
Hannity, you spent years.
You unpeeled every layer of the onion.
You exposed the double standard in our justice system and how deep state actors put cinder blocks on the scales of an election and how FISA warrants were used and they were all the basis of those warrants were a dirty Russian disinformation dossier bought and paid for by Hillary Clinton.
And then, you know, we've talked about Kash Patel from the year 2015 to the year 2024, the election.
You know, all that has happened, is this a grand conspiracy?
Because a lot of you get frustrated.
Well, we exposed all of this corruption and nobody ever gets held accountable.
One of the biggest problems is we have written into our laws statutes of limitations.
And unfortunately, the statute of limitations in the subsequent years when Biden was president, they were never held accountable.
And, you know, we've discovered, you know, not only were we right, as Jim Jordan always says, we were more right than we ever knew we were.
We were right about Hunter's laptop.
We were right about pre-bunking it by the FBI.
We were right about the use of and the weaponization of the DOJ in lawfare.
But let's go back to 2016.
One guy's life was ruined.
His name is Carter Page, a great guy who's actually a real patriot who traveled the world and came back and would brief three-letter agencies about what he learned, putting his life at risk in doing so.
Here's John Durham talking about Carter Page and his FISA warrant.
Several of the relevant FISA applications at issued in the crossfire investigation omitted references to what was clearly relevant and highly exculpatory information that should have been disclosed to the FISA court.
Multiple FBI personnel who signed or assisted in preparing renewal applications for that same FISA warrant acknowledged that they did not believe that the target, Mr. Page, was a threat to national security, much less a knowing agent of a foreign power, which is what the law requires.
It appears from our investigation that the FBI leadership dismissed those concerns.
Now, we heard about James Comey and the fact that James Comey's, you know, the charges were dropped against him.
There's news out today that he is likely to be reindicted, maybe as early as this week.
What John Durham is saying there is that Carter Page, the FISA warrant, omitted exculpatory evidence.
James Comey himself signed three of the four FISA warrants, yet they had gotten rid of, you know, Christopher Steele, who put together the dirty Russian dossier, by December of 2016.
So he signed two of the three, knowing damn well that it should never have been relied on.
And by law, he had an obligation to go back to the court and tell them the information presented to them to secure that warrant was false and did not include exculpatory evidence.
And Durham further went on to say there was not a legitimate basis to open Crossfire Hurricane as a full investigation.
Anyway, Carter Page joins us now.
I imagine, you know, when people say to me, why weren't they held accountable?
I know why they weren't held accountable.
Democrats protected them.
But that doesn't give you your life back, does it?
No, Sean.
And it also doesn't give us our legal system back.
And despite all the great work that Director Kash Patel has been doing, Attorney General Pam Bondi, and, you know, so many members of Congress have been pushing for.
I mean, these headwinds just continue over and over again.
So really appreciate everything that you've done, as you say, to expose this from the very beginning.
And the, you know, many, many people, you know, on our side, but it's just been a huge headwind.
And it's disappointing about that preliminary step backwards.
But I'm cautiously optimistic that as you're saying, maybe there's some solutions going forward, which our country desperately needs for a lot of reasons.
Well, there's a couple of big developments.
One is the declassified information we got from Tulsi Gabbard, which was very revealing because we had senior career intel officials ascertain after the 26 election that there was no Trump-Russia collusion.
It never existed.
We also now, the burn bags that were never burned, you know, we even have handwritten notes that seem pretty damning on paper of James Comey himself, what he knew when he knew it.
All this new evidence has emerged.
You know, a grand conspiracy is a very big, you know, hill to climb in all of this.
You know, I don't take any satisfaction in being right and yet justice not being served.
You know, Ray Donovan famously said in the Reagan years, where do I go to get my good name back after he was smeared for years?
In many ways, you lived through that.
Absolutely, Sean.
And, you know, I think Director Patel has made some very good points in terms of, you know, specific to those burn bags and some of the potential steps for it.
He's talking about more investigations, future public trials, and then disclosure to Congress.
Unfortunately, you know, those public trials have been a bit of a sham going back to our initial conversations nearly eight years ago when they were just starting to, with then House Intelligence Committee staffer Kash Patel helping Devin Nunes with some of the preliminary investigations.
And, you know, as you're correctly noting, it just keeps getting worse and worse.
So, you know, on the one hand, we're very fortunate.
You wrote great, you did great research on this.
Your book, Live Free or Die, was several chapters really dug into that in a way that helped to move the ball forward.
But there's a long way that we need to keep going.
And unfortunately, the ripple effects in many directions keep having really a serious impact on our country.
And a lot needs to be done to resolve this.
The sad thing is, is even if Comey is reindicted, the charge is lying to Congress.
Yeah, it does have a severe penalty.
Yeah, I'm glad something is going to happen.
But on the bigger issues that involved and hurt you in your life, on those bigger issues, unless there's a grand conspiracy investigation, he will never be held accountable for what he and other deep state actors did.
I do believe that there's an injustice there.
And that's when people ask me, how come?
Why?
Why didn't anything happen?
I could tell you why, because, again, Democrats protected them.
But, you know, what is the latest with you?
Because I do believe you have civil recourse, don't you?
Well, I've had civil recourse, which I initially filed in November of 2020, you know, in the final months.
And you interviewed former Attorney General Bill Barr a number of times trying to get to the bottom of this.
And unfortunately, what I've learned is, you know, him and certain people within the DOJ in the president's first term were really looking to kind of sweep that under the carpet.
And so I have been litigating for over five years now, and it got thrown out in the trial court in D.C., you know, standard D.C. swamp court procedures.
And then I had a similar problem earlier this year in the D.C. circuit.
But we're just continuing to do the best that we can.
And I have one of the top legal teams in America, the law firm Cher Jaffe, and they've just done incredible work.
And so that to me is the biggest thing.
And they're working on a filing with the Supreme Court.
And hopefully the Supreme Court has made some important step forward in terms of reforming our legal system.
And I remain cautiously optimistic that perhaps there is a possibility there.
But I think, you know, the original collusion between a lot of those bad actors that you were helpful in exposing throughout so many years and the collusion between them and the, you know, some of the sappers within the president's first term in office during the 45 administration, that remained a big headwind.
But we're fighting as hard as possible uphill to try to get those severe injustices against the president, myself, and so many others overturned in a proper legal context.
Well, I definitely want to see Kash Patello's promise that he will reveal all that are in the burn bags.
But I do want people to know something about you.
And I got to know you over the years and become very fond of you.
Not only did you travel abroad to countries like Russia and others, but every time you did our government, you did it with our government's blessing.
And if any point, what I'm saying is factually wrong, correct me.
And when you would come back from these countries, you would sit down with people at big three-letter agencies and they would debrief you.
And as a patriotic American, you would tell them anything that they wanted to know.
And I assume it probably even went a little deeper than that.
You probably did certain things that they asked you to do, but I don't want you to reveal anything that you feel uncomfortable revealing.
Yeah, and I think, you know, there are severe costs for that, Sean, I think as you're correctly alluding to.
And again, I just bear in mind so many of the similar costs that our president and so many in his movement have faced, whether it's General Flynn or so many others, Dr. John Eastman, who helped me in one of my prior cases.
It's just been a huge uphill battle.
But again, we keep doing the absolute best we can.
And on many levels, not only in the judicial context, but trying to, I think it goes well beyond.
I think as we see with the important negotiations that I'm sure you'll get into with Secretary Rubio in terms of the ongoing Russia deal, the President's absolutely right that those so many of those headwinds, President Putin suffered alongside President Trump and so many of us with this complete Russia hoax, as the President has correctly noted time and time again.
So there really is, you know, despite any, you know, severe damage or complete destruction in my life, I always bear in mind the bigger impact it's had for our country and, you know, the incredibly important need to reform this and start heading in a much better direction right now.
And there's a lot of things that we can specifically do to keep pushing that ball forward.
So I remain cautiously optimistic and will do everything I possibly can.
How has this impacted your life in terms of how you live it?
I mean, I look at people like you, John, Paul, Mac, Isaac, this computer repair man.
I mean, if you go in the arena, you expect to get hit.
This is not a life you chose for yourself.
Your life has been turned upside down.
What do you do now?
It's interesting you ask that question, Sean, because I started, you know, similar when we started talking about, you know, seven or eight years ago, I was starting to study the law.
And, you know, I was just on one hand trying to dig deep to try to help solve these problems, working with a lot of top attorneys, including some of the ones that I just mentioned, going back many years.
But I was also studying.
And so I did a law degree in the UK, an LLM program over there, kind of trying to dig into the, you know, the steel dossier and all the abuses where, you know, the president and his administration have had such huge headwinds and so many civil rights violations.
And then I did a law degree at Fordham Law School in New York City.
And just last month, I passed the, or I was notified that I passed a summer bar exam for the Texas bar.
So I'm now an attorney.
And even though this was not the life I designed, I want to, you know, with all the huge headwinds that are Attorney General Bondi and those members of Congress, the other great attorneys you mentioned, Ted Cruz and Lindsey Graham, you know, and their leadership in Congress.
I'm trying to do everything possible to help reform our legal system.
So a big shift of direction.
But, you know, again, I think there are some glimmers of hope on the horizon despite all this extreme destruction to our country and international security.
If there's anything we could ever do to help, please let us know.
We hope you'll come back often.
Carter Page, we appreciate the update.
We're not giving up.
We're going to stay on the case.
Reports today that, in fact, Comey may be reindicted as early as this week.
We're following and monitoring that hour by hour.
Thanks, sir, for your time.
Always appreciate you being with us.
Thank you so much, Sean, for everything.
All right, 25 now till the top of the hour, 800-941-Sean, our number, if you want to be a part of the program.
We're in Washington, D.C., we're in the swamp.
Excited about my interview.
I have Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State.
We also have the Attorney General Pam Bondi tonight.
There's a big cabinet meeting with President Trump today.
We're going to play a lot of that coming up in the last hour of the program.
It was wild today.
I mean, they went over hardcore everything up and down, which was a nice reset.
It was almost like, okay, we've done all of this, and the media just, all they want to do is focus on the negative because that's who they are.
And they can't help themselves.
I think one of the funniest moments is when President Trump said, you know, if I'm gone a single day, a single day, you people think, oh, my God, he's dying.
Oh, my God.
He's not available.
The actual transcript of it was pretty simple.
It goes like this.
He goes, you know, you always find something new.
Like, is he in good health?
Biden was great, you know, but is Trump in good health?
Biden, they never saw this man.
They hid him for four long years.
And when he did show up, he mumbled, he bumbled, he stumbled.
He didn't know whether to exit stage left or stage right.
I don't think he knew what day of the week it was.
And I don't believe he signed a single one of those pardons except for zero experience hunter.
So Trump goes, I sit here.
I do four news conferences a day.
I get asked questions from very intelligent lunatics, you people, which I thought was hilarious.
And if I go one day, I had one day where I didn't do a news conference.
Oh, there must be something wrong with President Trump.
You people, he says, are crazy.
They are.
They're crazy.
I think I'm sharper than I was 25 years ago, but who the hell knows?
You know, only Trump could do that.
We're going to talk about the loony left here in just a second.
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So the loony left is out there in droves.
We have been talking about, and I'm going to remind everybody in Nashville, Tennessee.
You have a candidate, a left-wing radical of all radicals running out there that is a lunatic.
It would be the Mamdani of Nashville.
It would be the AOC of Nashville.
Her background, her job, community organizer, inspired by Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals, also known as a trans organizer and activist.
She said that she hates the actual city that she would be representing, Nashville.
It actually runs from Kentucky all the way down to Alabama, this district, you know, one of these, I guess, gerrymander districts.
She hates her home city.
She hates country music.
Listen to what she said.
I've been heavily involved with the Nashville mayoral race because I hate the city.
I hate the Bachelorettes.
I hate the pedal taverns.
I hate country music.
I hate all of the things that make Nashville barely in its city to the rest of the country.
She talks about how prayer makes her uncomfortable.
Listen.
And I think, you know, especially as someone who is more secular, I have a hard time when religion is at the core of everything we do in the legislature.
And so, for example, on the House floor, we say a prayer every session.
Some committees open up with prayer.
We also stand for the pledge.
And there are also prayer groups in the legislature that meet routinely.
There are Christian pastors that have a lot of say and proximity to power in the legislature and dictate a lot of what the power players do.
And it is uncomfortable.
She wants to defund the Nashville Police Department completely.
She once said rioting is a way for people to express themselves.
She once tweeted out, good morning, especially to the 54% of Americans that believe burning down a police station is justified.
This is a lunatic.
She's running against a veteran, a hero by the name of Matt Van Epps.
He was on the program yesterday.
Here's what I want you to know.
This seat is critical.
It's not just critical for Nashville.
It's critical for the country.
If you are in Nashville, you're listening to WLAC or if you're listening to any one of our other great Nashville affiliates, please, we cover Tennessee.
Please assume that your vote will be the determining vote in the outcome of this election today.
I hope by 9 p.m., the race will already have been called for Matt Van Epps.
Don't let this lunatic Mamdani of Nashville get elected.
Anyway, here to weigh in on this more Tim Rice, D.C. Bureau Chief, Daily Wire.
Catalina Lafay is with us, and she is a political commentator, author of a soon-to-be-released book, Time to Choose, and currently apparently running for Congress.
Welcome both of you to the program.
Having us.
Having us, Sean.
Thank you both.
All right.
So, Catalina, how do you run for a district where you in Nashville, Tennessee, Music City, USA, and you hate country music and you hate the city?
How is that possible?
How did somebody this right more to the left of Mamdani?
I never thought that was possible.
You do it because you want to be there for yourself, not for the constituents.
Afton does not represent anything that that district stands for.
We know what the last community organizer did.
Look at what we got with Obama.
You know, this woman has never had a real job.
That comment that she hates everything about Tennessee, you know, she doesn't represent the district.
And Congress is supposed to be a body of servant leadership, people who match the district from values.
And that's just not what this woman is.
And it's detrimental not only to the state, but also look at what the Democratic Party, look at the type of candidates that they're running.
I mean, this is ridiculous.
But to your point, too, Sean, it comes down to voter turnout.
Republicans must come out.
They must vote for Matt Van Epps.
You know, I had the honor of meeting him not long ago.
He's a true servant leader.
He does reflect the values of the district, both from an economic perspective, but also culturally.
And he's going to work hard for the people of Tennessee 7.
And I hope Republicans get out and vote for him.
Tim Rice, bureau chief, Daily Wire.
I know this is stuff you cover every day.
You know, is this now the new Democratic Party radicalized even in Nashville, Tennessee?
Unfortunately, Sean, I think it is.
I mean, you know, Barack Obama and his heel destroyed the leadership class of the Democratic Party because, like Catalina said, Barack Obama was all about him.
I am the change, right?
So he absolutely decimated the Democratic Party's backbench, which meant that once he was out of office, the Democratic Party ceded leadership to just the left more broadly.
And the problem with the left is they don't really believe in anything.
Sure, they have policies.
You know, they believe, quote unquote, in universal health care or DEI or defunding the police, but they don't have values.
They don't have higher standards.
As Afton Bain said, she mocks it.
She mocks prayer.
She mocks people that have, you know, patriotic feelings.
She mocks people that love their homes.
And so the only way to ascend on the left, the only way to win elections, the only way to become popular, is to become more radically to the left than the person who came before you.
And this has been going on for a long time.
It's been going on at least since Obama took the White House.
So we're really seeing it this year.
And of course, you know, Momdani was a good example.
The fact that he was the mayor of New York City is going to be the mayor of New York City, I think, blunted the reality a little bit because, you know, it's somewhat less shocking that a radical got elected in New York, a city full of radicals.
But yeah, this is what's going to happen.
There's no, there's no, the Democratic Party has lost control.
There are no leaders.
They're desperate for a leader.
And these are the people that are coming out, the people who are egomaniacal enough to get out there, the people who have these access to grind, who admittedly hate the districts they want to represent.
They're not in it to serve and represent.
They're in it to change and punish and elevate themselves.
Quick break more on the lunatic left as we continue.
We're in our nation's capital.
Don't forget Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, Attorney General Pam Bondi, Senators Lindsey Graham, Ted Cruz together, and a couple of surprises.
Quick break, right back from our nation's capital.
Up next, the final roundup, information overload.
All right, we continue our final moments with Tim Rice, Catalina Loft, 800-941-SHAWN is on number.
We'll also play the president's cabinet meeting from earlier today.
His last of the year.
Let me play for you both.
So Luigi Mangioni, the guy accused of assassinating from behind the CEO of United Healthcare.
I don't know what this obsession is.
I can't explain it.
But apparently he's got tons and tons of admirers and he's getting thousands of letters from female admirers that would like to date him and marry him.
And it's just bizarre to me.
Not exactly a great catch in my eyes, but what do I know?
I think the evidence seems overwhelming and incontrovertible.
We'll see in the end.
I don't think it matters what he told the prison guard, whether that's admissible or not.
I think the videotape will be pretty damn compelling itself of him in this particular case.
But what's odd and what's strange is so he's at this court hearing yesterday, and his supporters show up.
These lunatics that love Luigi show up, including furries.
If anyone, by the way, can call in and tell me what a furry is and define it.
I would really appreciate the enlightenment because I have no earthly idea what it is.
Anyway, here are some of the lunatics that showed up outside the courtroom.
Well, as somebody who struggles with mental health issues, I think, you know, having free health care is a priority that this nation should have.
And I've been getting a lot of hate from people online calling me mentally ill.
If this person's rights can be suspended in a time of climbing fascism, anyone's rights can be suspended.
He completely dismantled the whole healthcare system by exposing a corrupt CEO.
I absolutely believe that he's innocent.
I completely believe that he's innocent, that he's a patsy that's being used in this moment where capitalism is under attack.
They're using this person and they're victimizing him.
You know, who killed more people, Osama bin Laden or Brian Thompson?
Probably the same number of people was killed.
The death penalty is a violation of human rights.
I don't condone murder at all.
I think it's terrible.
But in Luigi's case, I feel like it was necessary.
So while he died and I don't condone the violence, there are other people who he caused the death of in denying them healthcare.
All right, Tim, I'll ask you first.
Could you explain this phenomenon to me of these people obsessed with this guy accused of assassinating in cold blood, the CEO?
I really can't.
I can't understand it.
And I've spent, I'm a healthcare guy, so I've spent a lot of time trying to understand this because I do think that, you know, the fact that so many people see him as a hero for assassinating an insurance executive, you know, what otherwise would seem a pretty beneficial, not that, you know, any assassination is bad, but it's not, you know, he wasn't a controversial world leader.
Brian Thompson was a, he was a suit, right?
He was a corporate exec.
So I really do think that it's just this weird healthcare is one of the weirdest things that Democrats and leftists obsess over.
And you hear it in some of those comments.
You know, first of all, obviously, Medicare for all or universal health care is not worth killing or dying over, right?
Very few things are worth dying over.
Even fewer things are worth killing over.
Health insurance, your preferred kind of health insurance, is not it.
But the thing that's even crazier to me is that, you know, they all talk about capitalism and we need universal health care.
It's the capitalistic parts of America's healthcare systems are the ones that work, right?
It's the socialist parts.
It's Obamacare.
It's the individual, the Obamacare mandates.
It's Medicaid and expanding Medicaid to populations that shouldn't have it and allowing fraud.
It's this push for state-sponsored healthcare.
You know what cracks me up?
The Affordable Care Act is not so affordable.
It needs subsidies.
If it was, you know, anyway, last word, Catalina, we'll give it to you.
Yeah, this is sick.
This is the type of cultural and moral rot that we've seen in our culture.
You know, 30, 40 years ago, an assassination in any form was universally not acceptable, no matter what their ideology was.
But this is where we're at, and it just shows us that it all starts at home.
You know, these, no matter what the ideology is, the fact that these people are cheering on an assassin, and especially somebody like Brian Thompson, who was senselessly murdered, you know, the fact that those in that narrative is now the norm, if we don't take the narrative back, think about what will be acceptable 30, 40 years from now.
And it really starts at home.
It starts in the classrooms.
We need to take back our culture and our morality in this country.
Well, I appreciate both of you.
Thanks for being with us.
I can't explain it.
I mean, I'd love to marry Luigi Mangioni.
I'd love to bear his children.
That is pretty sick.
Pretty bizarre.
I don't condone murder, but this one was justified.
