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Nov. 21, 2025 - Sean Hannity Show
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When To Stand Up!

In this episode, we dive into some passionate reflections on the current state of the world, featuring thoughts from the legendary Bob Grant. As things seem to get worse, the conversation shifts to the serious topic of personal safety and the sometimes necessary use of lethal options for defense. Join us as we explore the tough decisions families face in these challenging times and discuss what this means for our society today. Don't miss this engaging dialogue that hits on some hard truths about safety and security.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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So it was very interesting to watch.
There was a feature in the New York Post about Nancy Pelosi, and over the course of her very long career in Congress, had a whopping return of just shy of 17,000%, outperforming pretty much every major market, every private equity firm, every investment firm in the entire country by a long shot, went from a net worth of $3 million to $280 million.
We did call over to her office, and the answer was, well, that would be her husband that does the investing.
A lot of people question, well, is it possible that maybe the husband had information that other Americans may not have?
People are very suspicious.
There are a lot of suspicious people in this world.
And frankly, for good reason, especially when you're looking at money and you're looking at a massive return such as she has.
And here's what got so interesting to me is she doesn't personally own any stocks.
So let's start there.
But it's her husband.
A 17,000 return, net worth as a family, 3 million, grows to 280 million.
Wow, for being in a public service role.
And she can say, okay, my husband did all this.
My husband did all this.
You know, there's an entire group of people because every elected official has to publicly file financial information and disclose what stocks they own, what stocks they've invested in.
And let's put it this way, there's a whole group of people and a whole application you can download where you can follow Nancy Pelosi's investments and make the investments yourself.
And apparently, you know, it's been an amazing bet over the last year.
The portfolio went up a whopping 32.5%, outperforming traditional investment strategies.
Autopilot, CEO Chris Josephs, in an interview said that Pelosi's newly announced retirement is bittersweet.
No other politician meant so much to this community of stock-watching finance junkies.
And as good as Pelosi's been for business, he wants a ban on politicians trading stock.
He created the tracker as a marketing tactic, but also to call attention to the issue, he said, we thought, you know, what better way to call out the hypocrisy than to literally trade alongside them.
And anyway, the Pelosi tracker got set up.
The Ethics and Government Act requires members of Congress to disclose their own and their spouses' sales and purchases of stock.
I mean, an almost 17,000% return, and that increase in net worth is pretty staggering.
Congressman Chip Roy, who's now a candidate for Attorney General in Texas, is pushing for the rule of law in Congress again by removing the right to trade individual stocks to spending our tax dollars on illegal immigrants and a bunch of other things.
I'd say that's a pretty good return on her investments.
I'd say she's one of the her husband's one of the best investors I've ever heard of.
I mean, it makes Warren Buffett blush, I would assume.
Yeah, it's pretty extraordinary, Sean.
Great to be on the show.
And this is something we've been observing a long time.
And, you know, we say all these jokes.
I mean, I joked when Nancy Pelosi announced her retirement.
Like, how on earth are people going to know how to invest their stocks?
Because, you know, following her was better than watching CNBC or Fox Business or anything else.
And look, we can joke about it, but it really does reduce or eliminate trust in Congress for the American people.
A lot of people use the term insider trading.
And yeah, that's a problem.
And it's certainly something that is driving our desire to pass legislation to fix it.
But the real thing is that it calls into question what your votes are.
It calls into question when you're making decisions on the floor or in committee.
Let's say you've got a big position in Google, and you're having a big debate in the Judiciary Committee about antitrust or breaking them up, or you own a lot of Palantir or some big defense stock, and you're voting in defense or in appropriations about defense spending.
I don't think there should be conflicts of interest that are that nakedly obvious.
And this isn't that hard.
There's 330 million Americans.
There's 435 of us in Congress, 535 when you have the Senate.
I think you can pause for a little bit.
Come be a public servant.
If you want to day trade, go on back home.
So we introduced legislation in 2020 on a bipartisan basis to address this.
I'm thankful that now, five years later, we've gotten a bigger coalition.
We introduced a version that is a bigger, bipartisan block with 90 co-sponsors.
We had a hearing on it yesterday, which is great.
But now we need Republican leadership to drive this train forward and deliver a result.
We've got to stop this day trading among members of Congress so we can restore trust.
Now, you are also, you've announced the PAWS Act, which would freeze all immigration into the U.S. until you reform chain migration and H-1B visas, eliminate birthright citizenship.
And how is that going in Congress?
Well, we had an initial fantastic response.
A lot of people, my colleagues that are jumping on board and co-sponsoring it, a great response across the country.
You know, I announced it last week that we were going to do it.
We couldn't get it drafted because of the shutdown with the lawyers and the legislative council, but we got it done this week.
We introduced it.
And look, I don't mean to say that it can't be tweaked or amended, but the concept I think is very popular.
Like, let's pause.
Let's push pause.
We have 51 million foreign-born people in this country.
That's almost 16% of the population.
That's the highest percentage we've ever had.
And we got to look at what's happening to our country.
We've got American workers who need jobs.
We've got forces that are driving up the price of goods.
We've got people who are coming here who want to change our laws, people who want to embrace Sharia law and undermine our Constitution.
We've got people here who are dangerous.
We need to pause.
We need to stop.
The president is doing an extraordinary job with the leadership of Tom Holman and Stephen Miller and Secretary Noam, freezing the flow at the border.
They've done a great job with that.
ICE is removing a lot of bad actors.
Now let's revamp our legal immigration system that has been abused to create massive pockets of Somalis and people who are coming here and advancing Sharia law and undermining our country.
And you and I have talked about that issue before.
And I think we need to freeze immigration and then let's fix it, right?
Now, by the way, it still allows tourist visas.
We can have a conversation about what to do with some of these things, but let's reform or eliminate or change H-1Vs, end diversity visas and chain migration.
Let's fix things like birthright citizenship and the magnets that cause people to come here.
Then we can have a sane conversation about guest workers and other stuff.
But Lord knows we can afford to freeze.
You know, back when we had the big boom in the early 1900s of immigration, in 1920 or so, we kind of stopped.
And we caught our breath.
And for about 30 or 40 years, we kind of regrouped.
We need to make sure people are assimilating, buying into the American dream rather than changing it.
The melting pot means that you buy into America.
You don't come here to change it.
So last night on TV, I had Texas Governor Greg Abbott.
I know you're friends with him.
And he has taken a stand against the group CARE and the Muslim Brotherhood.
He signed a proclamation declaring them both foreign terrorist organizations in Texas, citing what he called actions taken to support terrorism around the world.
And, you know, care pushback.
They put their Texas chapter saying that they are proud of their record of standing up for free speech and religious freedom and justice for all, and they're not going to be intimidated by smear campaigns launched by, quote, the Israel-first politicians like Greg Abbott.
No, I know Greg Abbott.
He's a Texas first governor.
Period.
End of sentence.
Now, just for the record, the same group that was identified as an unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation terrorism financial trial, their national executive director following the horrific terror attacks on October 7th, said the people of Gaza only decided to break the siege, the walls of the concentration camp on October 7th.
And yes, I was happy to see people breaking the siege.
Then the governor, before we had him on last night, said he's investigating Sharia courts in Texas.
Are there Sharia courts in Texas?
Well, it's a great question.
The governor made that point, I think, and said it to you, I think, that he knows that they're, in fact, Sharia courts.
He sent a letter in which he sent it to the DAs in Talm County and Dallas and the sheriffs and said, look, you guys go find these courts that are operating in direct conflict with our laws, and then let's go shut them down.
And issuing that executive order with respect to CARE and the Muslim Brotherhood is really important because it unlocks tools that the legislature provided to ban the purchases of real estate, dirt, and other assets in Texas by people that are declared to be affiliated with terrorist organizations.
And look, CARE is very obviously affiliated with terrorist organizations.
They've got leadership that were a part of the Holy Land Foundation case that you'll remember, Sean, from 25 years ago, all the way back in the Bush administration.
DOJ went after them and unlocked the extent to which they were tied to terrorists.
Some of their folks, they have an unindicted co-conspirator that's at the top leadership in CARE.
CARE was extolling the October 7th attacks on Israel.
I could go down a laundry list of other things.
Recent reporting two days ago in the New York Post of CARE's affiliation with these groups that have been on college campuses.
They were riling up all the protests all associated with terrorist groups.
And look, we've got to fight this stuff.
And God bless Governor Abbott for doing that.
We need to step on the gas, not just Epoch City, not just these things that grab the headlines, but we need to actually have a concerted effort to stop the advancement of Sharia law.
And the governor took a great step in that direction.
You're running for this is your last term in Congress.
My understanding is a friend of mine is leading the way to replace you in your district.
He's the former first baseman, although he's Texas, you know, his Texas roots run deep, including playing for Texas and the MLB.
And that's Mark Teixeira, who I know is a MAGA conservative.
Have you spoken to him?
And how are you looking in your race?
Well, I appreciate the question.
Yeah, I know, Mark.
You know, we've known each other a long time.
Our kids go to the same school.
And look, my race, I'm very excited about where we stand.
We're polling around 40 points.
My nearest competitors are usually in the single digits or around 10 points.
We've got big enthusiasm, raising good money.
The reaction has been fantastic.
We're having good conversations, of course, and where we want to take the AG's office to extend what Governor Abbott did as AG, what Ken Paxon has done as Attorney General, and now put it, you know, really step on the gas.
You know, go after these issues with respect to the Sharia law adherence and what's happening with those issues.
Really step on the gas with respect to our border.
Never again be subjected to a Biden-Majorkis undermining of our laws and our security in Texas.
Stop this release of criminals on our streets, going after this network, this vast networks of SOARS-funded folks, election integrity, the SAVE Act, which I led on in Congress.
We got to make sure we secure our elections.
These are all reasons why, look, Sean, I could stay in Congress and keep fighting here, and we've done a lot of great work.
Remember, you and I, we've worked together and trying to navigate through the speakers' debates and whether it was Kevin and then now Speaker Johnson.
And my philosophy has always been to deliver, right?
Fight hard, get the most conservative outcome and deliver results.
And we've done it on so many levels.
Proud of what we've been able to pass.
But now we need to save Texas.
Sean, if we lose Texas, there is no America.
And Texas is under assault.
So I'm proud to go back and run for attorney general.
But I got 14 more months here to keep fighting.
And so I'm staying in, you know, the joke member in high school was always senioritis.
Oh, you're gone.
No, no, no.
I'm a United States Congressman for the 21st District.
I'm going to keep fighting and keep doing my job here as well.
I think that's noble.
And I wish more people had the same attitude.
I do know it's going to, you know, winning Texas is critical.
It's actually astounding the amount of monies that have been thrown.
By the way, I am endorsing Mark Teixeira.
I don't know if you're going to endorse on a primary, but I'm endorsing him.
I've known him forever.
He is the real deal conservative.
And I don't say that lightly about a lot of people.
You know, people are asking me now, who do you think is going to replace Trump?
Well, first of all, nobody's going to replace Trump.
He's, you know, one unique historical figure.
But I'm going to do what I did when I first endorsed Trump.
I'm going to vet all these candidates, and I'm going to talk to them, and I'm going to interview them, and I'll make my own decision, and I'll share it with my audience like I did the last time.
And last time, I don't know if you remember, conservatives have beaten the hell out of me for supporting Trump.
They crucified me on the air, Ben Shapiro, Glenn Beck, and others.
Well, Sean, you've always been a good proponent of seeking the truth and standing up on your beliefs.
And you know what?
I've done the same thing.
And 99% of the time, they're aligned.
And I remember how great you were and respectful.
Remember when we were out there on the campaign trail and Governor DeSantis, a longtime friend of mine, Byron Donalds, who's one of my good friends.
I've endorsed him and he's endorsed me.
Byron and I were sitting on your set, remember, during the Republican convention.
And we had a great dialogue and discussion about how great the work is that the governor was doing in Florida, how great the president is.
And, you know, look, the president just crushed the field, was our nominee.
We crushed it last year.
And now he's crushing it as president.
I'm honored to work alongside him.
Big fan working with his team.
Some of my best friends in the administration, people like Russ Vote, the head of OMB, Tom Homan is a dear friend who's obviously kicking butt on the border.
This president is doing great things, but Congress, we've got to deliver.
We've got another year.
We've got to deliver, win the midterms, and then two more years to deliver, set up a 28 election.
We need 12 years.
We've got to clean up this mess, and we've got to step on the gas and get in behind the president to deliver.
And I think if we do that, we can win and we can create a whole new generation of conservatives in the spirit of Charlie Kirk and everything that he gave and he gave his life for and talking about his faith, talking about freedom.
Let's inspire a new generation.
I think the president's setting the field for that.
Well said, and I support your race for attorney general also, just so you know.
Our favorite congresswoman's back in the news, Linda.
Did you notice Jasmine Crockett is back in the news?
She's not my favorite.
Not my favorite.
She is.
FYI.
Oh, definitely not.
She's your favorite.
No.
He's definitely our favorite.
Come on.
Every time he speaks.
No.
My favorite is Pelosi.
I never get enough of Pelosi.
She's my favorite.
She's got herself a little bit of a Biden cognitive problem right now.
And she's retiring.
So I'm not going to go too deep in the paint on that one.
So Jasmine listed a friend of the program, Lee Zeldon, who's now at the EPA, and claimed that he received donations from Jeffrey Epstein.
He said it on the House floor.
Here's what she said.
Folks who also took money from somebody named Jeffrey Epstein, as I had my team dig in very quickly.
Mitt Romney, the NRCC, Lee Zeldon, George Bush, Wynn Red, McCain Palin, Rick Lazio.
I just want to be clear.
If this is the standard that we're going to make, just know we're going to expose it all.
And just know that the FEC filings, they are available for everybody to review.
Whoopsie Daisy, the only one that actually was soliciting money that we know for sure based on the document dump, we know that a lot of Democrats are now implicated, Bill Clinton for one, Lawrence Summers for another one.
We know that Hakeem Jeffries, the leader in the House and name only, he's not the real leader.
And yeah, then Jasmine got caught because you see, Lee Zeldon never received, solicited, or tried to get any money from Jeffrey Epstein.
And then the facts come out and Jasmine had to admit that she was wrong, but she was not trying to do it purposefully.
Mentioned Lee Zeldon there.
He's now a cabinet secretary.
He responded and said it was actually Dr. Jeffrey Epstein, who's a doctor that doesn't have any relation to the convicted sex trafficker.
Unfortunate for that doctor, but that is who dude to a prior campaign of his.
Do you want to correct the record on the people that you're doing?
I never said that it was that Jeffrey Epstein.
Just so that people understand when you make a donation, your picture is not there.
And because they decided to spring this on us in real time, I wanted the Republicans to think about what could potentially happen because I knew that they didn't even try to go through the FEC.
So my team, what they did is they Googled.
And that is specifically why I said, hey, Jeffrey Epstein, unlike Republicans, I at least don't go out and just tell lies.
Because it was not the same one, that's fine.
But when Lee Zeldon had something to say, all he had to say was it was a different Jeffrey Epstein.
He admitted that he did receive donations from a Jeffrey Epstein.
So at least I wasn't trying to mislead people.
Now, have I dug in to find out who this doctor is?
I have not.
So I will trust and take what he says is that it wasn't that Jeffrey Epstein, but I was not attempting to mislead anybody.
I literally had maybe 20 minutes before I had to do that debate.
Yeah, but people might see that and say, well, you're trying to make it sound like he took money from a registered sex offender.
No, but I literally did not know.
That's an accident, right?
We should, it's like Sandy Burgler, the burglar.
You know, when, remember, he went into the National Archives for Bill Clinton after 9-11.
And, you know, he was being sloppy.
He was just being sloppy, Linda, when he put all of those secret documents in his pants and his socks.
I just think maybe this is a case of sloppiness.
I'm sure it's careless, sloppy.
He admits this.
He was sloppy about it.
He was sloppy.
I can appreciate it.
Can you imagine if that same sort of leeway was given to the right?
It's mind-blowing to me.
I'm like, the guy's got files in his underwear.
Like, guys, this is not hard.
It's really not.
By the way, I would imagine if you're being sloppy, I'm sloppy.
Everybody's sloppy.
Speak for yourself.
I'm not sloppy.
I'm not either.
I hate messes.
But is it really sloppiness when you take archives that you illegally, that's illegal to take out of the National Archives and you shove it down your crotch?
How do you describe that as sloppy?
Exactly.
And they got away with it.
That's a problem.
But see, the reason they get away with it is because they have all their buddies and cronies in the positions of power that they need in order to say, it's all good.
He didn't mean anything wrong.
Donald Trump was sloppy like that and he was shoving documents down.
Oh, forget about it.
They would have been, you know, they would have to do his pants.
He doesn't need to do anything, just like Lee Zeldon didn't do anything.
And she's burying him.
And the problem is, is where do you go to get your good name back?
I mean, the guy who donated to Lee Zeldon had been dead.
He was dead.
Ray Donovan was investigated in the Reagan years for years and years, and then he was exonerated.
And he comes out, where do I now go to get my good name back?
And the answer to that question is you don't get it back after the smears, the slander, the besmirchment, the attacks.
All right.
It's great.
It's gross.
I mean, who wants to be in politics?
Nobody's.
I don't know why people do it.
I'm glad some do.
Joy in my free state of Florida.
Hey, Joy, how are you?
Hi, Sean.
It is our free state of Florida.
Love our free state of Florida.
Especially love it at this time of year when all my friends are calling me and writing me and whining and moaning and bitching and complaining about the weather where they live.
And their taxes where they live.
Well, yeah, I mean, they're complaining about that.
I mean, what's so amazing is how quickly that Zoron Marxist Kami Mamnani.
Now, apparently, there's going to be some meeting or meetup with President Trump at the White House tomorrow.
That ought to be interesting.
I almost feel like flying in for it just to watch it in real life.
That would be quite entertaining.
But if he thinks, I mean, he was out there today talking about that if Donald Trump thinks that he's going to get the cooperation for ICE officials like he did under Eric Adams, he is mistaken.
Listen, Zoron, you take on Donald Trump all you want because it ain't going to end well for you and it's not going to end well for New York.
By the way, real estate prices in the last five days outside the city of New York in the five boroughs is up a whopping 25%.
Talking to my friends down in Florida in the real estate industry, they said activity is skyrocketing.
It's called the Mamdani effect.
It's taking place now.
Just as long as they don't bring their New York politics with them.
Well, that should be a requirement.
We ought to have a political litmus test.
You're welcome to Florida, but if you're one of these lunatic liberals that ruined your state, don't bring your stupid policies with you.
I think that's a fair, you know, that's a fair entrance requirement to me.
Anyway, Joy, we appreciate you.
Thank you.
Mark in North Carolina.
What's up, Mark?
My honor and pleasure to be with you today, Sean.
Reason I'm calling is there's been a lot of noise accusing President Trump of acting illegally with his hits on the Venezuelan Narco votes.
And I have something of a legal background, Columbia law, 81.
My constitutional law professor was Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
I was on the board of the law school for the Society of International.
Can I interrupt everyone?
Do you know what Clarence Thomas once told me?
And Ruth Bader Ginsburg's best friend, do you know who was on the court?
It was Anthony Scalia.
Clarence Thomas said she's lovely.
She's a wonderful, very nice woman.
Yeah, and she was approved with a vote of 93 senators, by the way, if I remember correctly.
And I was able to disagree with her to her face over what she was National League of Cities and the Equal Rights Amendment.
And she graded me fairly.
And back when the Democrats were talking about packing the court, she said, no, that's not a good idea.
So, you know, there was intellectual integrity there and respect across different points of view.
Absolutely.
Yeah, I'm glad, you know, God rest us all.
I mean, we can disagree, and you can still have disagreements.
By the way, let me ask you this question, babe, because you brought this up, and then I'll let you make your point.
Should I spend time on the program next week or maybe tomorrow?
How do you deal with your crazy relatives over Thanksgiving?
Because probably every family has some.
And they've got to come itching for a fight.
And I've been in situations where I sit down and within 30 seconds I read the room and I'm like, okay, here it comes.
It's coming.
And I'll usually sit back and just wait for them to bury themselves and then I'll go in and set them straight.
Because I do this professionally.
This is what I do for a living and I know a lot more than they do.
But for other people, it's very hard when they're being attacked by family members because of their political beliefs.
What do you think?
Well, at present, I do martial arts for a living, and my teacher has a saying.
He says, be the temperature, not the thermometer.
And so I think there's a lot of wisdom in that.
And I read a little piece on Charlie Kirk and his techniques, and I'm trying to do better with that.
And it said, what Charlie did is he always began with, define your terms.
You know, whatever word you use, please define it so we understand.
And he always looked for where you could give, you know, find an area to state agreement.
I agree with this or I agree with that.
And so that that changes the dynamic of the conversation.
And so I try to do that.
And indeed, that's kind of my motive in calling today, which is a lot of people are upset at how that, you know, they see all the wild accusations.
Back on the first No Kings day, I went to the No Kings rally in Southern Pines here, and I asked if I could speak on the other point of view.
They were very upset about President Trump federalizing the California National Guard, and I kind of played a trick on them.
I was wearing a Grateful Dead t-shirt that said, make America grateful again.
And so that got them to lower their guard.
And I said, you know, here's my Grateful Dead t-shirt.
My constitutional law professor was Ruth Vader Ginsburg.
Yay.
And I've got good news for you.
You're wrong.
I've read the statute, and what President Trump is doing is legal, and they didn't quite know what to do with me.
But, you know, what I want to get to today is about the Venezuelan thing.
As I look into things a bit, I have a bit of a background.
And so it starts with Article 1, Section 8, Clause 10 of the Constitution, which gives Congress the power to define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas and offenses against the law of nations.
An example of that would be the Maritime Drug Law Enforcement Act, 46 U.S.C. 7050 and sequence.
And I ran this by a friend of mine who was a special agent for the DEA to make sure I was getting this right.
And, you know, so it lays out the procedure.
Is the vessel in question an American flag?
Is it a foreign flag?
Is it a state?
Is it unflagged entirely?
And so there's all kinds of processes and so forth.
But the Supreme Court's rule that the jurisdiction on the high seas can be defined even without violence and predation of piracy, which would seem to be applicable here.
And so, you know, everybody has seen over the years where the drug boats are stopped and so forth.
But where we're going here is with what President Trump did with his declaration of the Marco Cartels as here.
What was the exact, it was back in January, I think.
And so the R, ah, the, yeah, January 25th.
And so with that, we go into a different legal category, which is a transition to counterterrorism mode.
And so that is going to tap into the existing authorized use of military forces, such as the one in 2001, which have been affirmed by the courts and extend to non-state actors posing imminent threats.
So for example, think of all the hits that President Obama did with drones.
And so the DOJ's assertion is that the imminent threat for Article 51 of the U.N. Charter is the American deaths resulting from the dog trade and the territorial invasion or a congressional war declaration is not required.
So the president.
Well, that's a good point about you making about Obama and the drone strikes.
I have a really great story that I've never told, and I'm not sure when I'll tell it, but I'll tell it one day.
Linda, you know exactly what story I'm talking about.
And on a scale of one to 100, how great is that story?
It's a great one.
That's why it's untold.
You're holding it for the right moment.
Well, I'm holding it because I don't want to draw attention to the underlying issue behind it.
And, you know, let's just put it this way, had to do with a threat against me and my family.
But I'll save that for another day.
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