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Nov. 11, 2025 - Sean Hannity Show
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Democrat Infighting Fuels Government Shutdown
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If you want to be a part of the program, former House Speaker Newt Kingrich, you know, blaming obviously the ongoing shutdown, the radicals have taken over the Democratic Party and blaming Schumer and said Schumer saw this as an opportunity to hold the entire country hostage to prove that Democrats could get a supposed win.
This has been Schumer, his position on government shutdowns the entire time he's been in the U.S. Senate.
This is critical to understanding how dominant the Mamdani AOC wing, Jasmine Crockett squad wing is, and how powerful they are that Schumer is leader in name only like Hakeem Jeffries, leader in name only.
Listen.
What if I persuaded my caucus to say I'm going to shut the government down?
I am going to not pay our bills unless I get my way.
It's a politics of idiocy, of confrontation, of paralysis.
It's sort of like this.
Someone goes into your house, takes your wife and children hostage, and then says, let's negotiate over the price of your house.
You know, we could do the same thing on immigration.
We believe strongly in immigration reform.
We could say we're shutting down the government.
We're not going to raise the debt ceiling until you pass immigration reform.
It would be governmental chaos.
Speaker McCarthy needs to stop letting the MAGA radicals drive his decisions and do the obvious and sensible thing.
Follow the Senate's lead and pass a bipartisan CR to prevent this reckless shutdown.
We do not want to let a Trump temper tantrum govern our policies or cause the shutdown of a government which everyone on both sides of the aisles knows is the wrong idea.
All right.
So that's been his history until now.
Now, it's fascinating to watch this unfold because Democrats are at each other's throat because now you have enough Democrats in the Senate to open up the government.
We see what's happening with air traffic controllers with snap benefits, 42 million Americans impacted by that.
Hakeem Jeffries, when pressed on supporting a bill that would include Obamacare subsidies, says that they're not prepared to support a promise from folks.
This is their health care bill.
It's called Obamacare.
They're the ones that shoved it down our nation's throat.
And John McCain, then unfortunately, had the opportunity to get rid of it.
And his animus towards Donald Trump got in the way.
Listen to Hakeem, another leader in name only.
Leader Jeffries, just very quickly, yes or no?
Do you rule out supporting a bill that would include a promise to vote on Obamacare subsidies?
Yes or no?
I don't think that, I don't think that the House Democratic caucus is prepared to support a promise, a wing and a prayer from folks who have been devastating the health care of the American people for years.
They're the ones that passed the bill.
I kept warning at the time, Obamacare would be a disaster.
You know, millions lost their doctors, millions lost their plans.
40-plus percent of the country has one Obamacare exchange option.
And, you know, the big promise, the average family will save $2,500 per family per year.
Every family's paying over 300% more.
Here's Hakeem Jeffries again, leader in name only.
No matter what legislation comes from the Senate, they're voting no.
Doesn't matter what they pass.
And far too many people are struggling to live paycheck to paycheck.
They can't thrive.
They can barely survive.
And that's why Democrats have been waging this fight.
And we'll continue to wage this fight.
No matter what comes over to us from the United States Senate to the House of Representatives at some point this week.
And so as House Democrats, we know we're on the right side of this fight, the right side of the American people.
And we're not going to support partisan Republican spending bill that continues to gut the health care of the American people.
And we're going to continue the fight to extend the Affordable Care Act tax credits.
Now, remember, they're looking to extend health benefits that were designed to be temporary for COVID for people 800% above the poverty line.
Okay, that is unsustainable.
They're demanding to keep the government open seven weeks, $1.5 trillion, including health care for illegal immigrants, including funding NPR and PBS, including DEI programs abroad.
That's all been part of their spending plan.
The problem they have is the party has been radicalized.
Even Tim Cain, you know, who represents Virginia and all the D.C. employees in his state that have been laid off, he voted to end the shutdown because it's not working.
Anyway, joining us now is Senator Mark Wayne Mullen, our friend from Oklahoma.
Senator, how are you?
Sean, I'm doing good.
How are you doing?
I'm good.
10 stays in the Senate, but at least finally you're making progress.
You know, I've never been a big believer that government shutdowns matter much until, but we've never had one go this long and it be this impactful to so many Americans at once.
This is getting bad.
Yeah, right.
Today, we're going to have more cancellations on flights than any time in American history other than 9-11.
And it's all because of the shutdown that we find ourselves in.
And now the Democrats, and by the way, the Democrats didn't get anything to reopen the government.
Leader Thun offered them a ACA vote, but couldn't guarantee which ACA affordable health care, which is completely unaffordable.
He offered that back October 16th.
We have been shut down for weeks because for their own personal leverage.
The whole plan was to get it past the November election so they could vote for their communist mayor in New York.
But the truth is, they're out there now spending it.
And Sean, you were alluding to this just a second ago.
They're out there right now saying it's all about health care.
The Republican Party is to blame for having unaffordable health care.
And you remember, President Obama said that our premiums were going to go down by 25%.
Today we stand at 221% increase.
And even if we were to extend the premium tax that the Democrats voted for unanimously back in 21, they made it designed to expire.
Even if we did extend it, your premiums would still go up 11 to 12%.
So it's not affordable.
It's not working.
And I think President Trump was absolutely brilliant when he said, hey, instead of giving the premium tax to the insurance companies, how about we give it straight to the American people and let them use it to buy the insurance plan they want?
I thought that was absolutely brilliant.
The president said that.
I mean, there's so many innovative, creative ways to redesign health care.
And maybe this will become part of the debate post the reopening of the government.
And that would include health care cooperatives, healthcare savings accounts.
We have great innovation in healthcare.
I've had on this program many times, Dr. Josh Umber.
He's out of Wichita, Kansas.
He had a health care cooperative, 24-hour access to doctors that would take care of most things, including you'd get he would negotiate directly with pharmaceutical companies at a 90-plus percent discount and 50 bucks a month for adults, $10 a month for children.
It includes telemedicine.
A lot of times, you don't need to go to a doctor or an emergency room.
A lot can be done with modern technology and FaceTime for crying out loud.
And, you know, all of these things save money ultimately, but, you know, people funneled into a government system where promises were made and none of them were kept has not worked.
And they're kind of trying to die on this hill of turning something that they designed to be temporary into something permanent.
Well, I think it's absurd that they're trying to turn the health care crisis against on the Republicans' fault.
But keep in mind, you had a community organizer, the one that came up with this health care plan, and Nancy Plosi, who said, if you want to know what's in it, pass it, then you can read it.
If we want to fix a health care system, you can't fix this.
You can't fix affordable health care.
That's like trying to fix a blown motor.
You've got to rebuild a blown motor.
In this particular case, you need President Trump.
He's a business guy.
He knows how to make business successful.
He will bring in the brightest minds, the best minds together and negotiate a deal that will actually get American health care working for the American people, not working for consolidation and large insurance companies.
And listen, I'm not against companies being profitable.
I'm a capitalist.
I believe in companies being profitable.
They hire employees.
But there's no reason why we would continue to subsidize insurance companies that are making record profits right now.
The reason why the Democrats passed the premium tax program last in 2021 during COVID was because the insurance company said they were going to go broke because of the high expensive cost.
Now, even if you did away with that, they would still be making around 15% profit even if you took out the premium tax.
So we don't need to be subsidizing them anymore.
What we need to be doing is looking at why is health care cost continuously going through the roof?
Why not take a deep dive, look underneath the hood, and say, let's scrap this program altogether and build a program back by getting the markets working and allowing people to have choice, have choice and what fits them best rather than requiring all programs to have maternity care.
I mean, it's absurd with the regulations they put on it because of the community organizer trying to fix our health care system.
Well, I said in the beginning, and remember, there was a mandate associated with this where everybody was ultimately going to be funneled into a government system.
This was really their big step towards universal health care or a single-payer system, which is what I think they ultimately wanted.
And I think what they ultimately want now.
Looks like they're progressing towards reopening the government, which means if they would expedite it in the Senate, then the House could open the government as early as Wednesday.
Have you spoken to these senators?
Are they going to stand firm now at this point that they took this test vote last night?
Yeah, we had 13 Democrat senators that had agreed to vote with us last week as long as they could get past the Tuesday election.
That was their whole plan.
They said that Chuck Schumer, this is a quote, would take off the handcuffs and allow themselves plus Dick Durbin to vote for it.
After the Tuesday election, they came out with just ridiculous demands.
I mean, Sean, they came in and they wanted the president to rescind all pocket rescissions and guarantee he wouldn't do it for another year.
We wanted the president to reinstate the security clearances from all those that he has stripped the security clearances from.
They wanted a guarantee that the guarantee outcome on the ACA vote and that the House would pick it up.
I mean, just ridiculous stuff.
We told them to go pound sand.
It literally took us 0.3 seconds to reject their offer.
And then because of the mounting pressure of their body, especially with Tim Kaine with the 350,000 federal employees he has in Virginia, the mounting pressure finally came back.
And what we settled on is, well, we give you an ACA vote.
That's it.
And so we know that these eight that's already walked the plank, they're going to stay strong.
The question is, is the other five that said they were going to vote with us, are they going to have the backbone to actually do what's right for the American people rather than continue using the American people as hostage and leverage points?
Okay.
You're in the room.
You're in the cloakroom.
You're on the Senate floor.
What are you hearing?
Well, technically, if this thing, if they run out every hour, they could run this thing all the way to Friday evening because of the amendment votes they could have on it.
If they just run out the debate time, it would be Wednesday because remember, right now we're on the motion to proceed.
So the motion proceed comes with a 30-hour debate time.
Once we end with the motion proceed, we've got to amend the House clean CR because we're going to replace all, instead of having 12 continuing resolution funding bills, we're going to have nine and then three funding bills.
It's going to be at President Trump levels, which means it's Ag, MILCON, which is military and ledge.
And then we got to change the date.
So we got to change the House version.
Once we do that, it opens another 30-hour debate.
And that since we're open it to amend, it can be amended.
Right now, we have a problem with Rand Paul, you know, our senator from Kentucky.
I take a deep breath there.
He is demanding a hemp vote on this because he wants to up the THC levels in hemp, which could really draw the process out.
If he does that, then we could see this thing could draw out all the way to Friday.
We're trying to push back.
If he demands to have to have this amendment vote, I have said no.
He said he will hold it up.
He won't release the debate time.
At this point, I really don't care.
Rand is on his own heel.
To think he's going to hold the American people hostage like them over him is ridiculous, but we don't need his vote, so we can go around him.
We haven't had his vote this whole time, so that's not important to us.
But if he demands that, then he could drag that out a lot further.
The Democrats have told us, the ones I've talked to today, they're ready to go home.
They're done.
They already know they lost the vote.
So they went radio silent today.
They're not talking to us.
At least the leadership isn't.
The ones I'm talking to said they're willing to yield back the time and we'd be done today.
And then they'd call back the House.
The House would vote on it on a Wednesday and we could reopen the government.
But it takes quite a while.
Yeah, that would be a best case scenario.
Too many people are suffering, Senator.
And a clean CR is what Democrats always said they wanted.
So Senator Mark Waymullen, well, it's going to be fascinating.
I don't know.
I think this party's gone radical suicidal at this point.
But if they think this is going to, you know, Americans are getting angry and they have every right to be.
A clean CR funding the government at current levels is exactly what Democrats always said they wanted.
Thank you, sir.
Appreciate it.
You know, it's when I'm when I say the Democratic Party is hijacked, you need look no further than Zoron, Marxist, Kami Mamdani.
You know, we played remarks last week of AOC, you know, basically telling Chuck Schumer, get out of the way.
The old guard has to make way for the new guard.
And then went straight at Hakeem Jeffries telling him, you know, well, Bomdani is the future of the party.
I mean, that to me is a very critical moment.
And, you know, the leaders of the Democratic Party, now the poster child of the Democratic Party would be, you know, Zorhan Mamdani and AOC.
I've been saying for years, she's the leader.
You know, Nancy Pelosi at the time was leader, you know, was speaker in name only.
She had no power.
Hakeem Jeffries now has no power.
And the Senate, Chucky Schumer, is done.
It's over.
I think Hakeem Jeffries is very likely done himself.
And then you have Grandpa Bernie.
This is his moment.
He now is the dominant voice inside the Democratic, you know, the radical Democratic socialists that run this party.
Here's what he said, speaking out against the deal and the shutdown.
I mean, it doesn't matter that, you know, nearly 42 million Americans are not getting food benefits that they desperately need.
I thought Democrats cared about the poor.
Apparently not.
When it matters, you know, if they want political leverage, they acknowledge people who get hurt, but we need the leverage.
That's what they've kept saying openly now.
Here's what he said.
Yet tonight, what this Senate is about to do is make a horrific situation even worse.
So let's be clear what this vote is about.
If this vote succeeds, over 20 million Americans are going to see at least a doubling in their premiums in the Affordable Care Act.
In my state of Vermont and throughout this country, for certain groups of people, it will be a tripling and a quadrupling of their premiums.
And my friends know what you are voting on.
Studies are out there that when you throw 15 million people off healthcare, some 50,000 of our fellow Americans will die unnecessarily every single year.
Anyone think that's funny?
Something to laugh at?
Something to just go past?
I don't.
50,000 Americans die unnecessarily.
I mean, this rhetorical insanity, you know, in the minds of Democrats, the only answer is going to be a government answer.
Meanwhile, Obamacare has been proven to have failed spectacularly.
You know, just like most government programs, they make these glorious promises, cradle to grave, womb to the tomb, social security, lockbox rated, money spent, headed towards insolvency.
How's Medicaid doing?
Same problem, headed towards insolvency, $38 trillion in debt.
We're putting that on our children and grandchildren.
How are your government schools doing?
Not very well, especially in blue states and blue towns and cities around the country.
How law and order and safety and security under the defund dismantled Nobel reimagine the police people?
Not very well.
You know, the military is about it, and even that deteriorated when Democrats were in power.
And this is what they want to convince you.
You know, when millions lost their doctors' plans and you're paying 300% on average more than you were paying when you were told you'd save on average $2,500 a year, we're now going to double down on dumb, dumber, and stupid when there are creative free market solutions.
If we'd only think, you know, telemedicine should be a part of the equation now moving forward.
You know, artificial intelligence can detect, you know, disease early.
You know, in five years from now, your odds of living to 100 are going to go up exponentially.
Anyway, let's get to our phones.
Marie is in Pennsylvania.
Hey, Marie, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hi, Sean.
Thanks for taking my call.
I'm a longtime Sean Hannity fan, and I'm calling today about John Fetterman.
So I'm a Pittsburgh area Republican.
Of course, I didn't vote for John, but I've been very impressed with him.
And I'm just curious if you have any insights as to his real influence with his colleagues in Washington this last year.
By the way, he's on TV tonight, and he is, he surprised me too.
And I like Dr. Roz.
Dr. Oz, you know, got killed by Doug Mastriano, who, you know, took a position on abortion that I think it just was out of sync with the people of Pennsylvania.
I'm not getting into that issue right now.
And, you know, he lost by like 14 points, the largest margin to Josh Shapiro against a non-incumbent governor since the 1940s.
And Oz lost by 3% or 4%.
And, you know, Mastriano lost by 14%.
There was only so much ticket switching that was going to go on, but he's been a real pleasant surprise.
And I will tell you, having spoken to him privately and on the air, he's a nice guy, and he's reasonable.
He does not like this Nazi fascist, racist, Hitler-Stalin, Mussolini, insightful and dehumanizing rhetoric.
He has supported closed borders.
He has supported, he understands radical Islamists.
He understands Israel's right to defend itself.
I just find him an old school, old-fashioned, you know, Democrat, which is almost non-existent today.
The fact that we even got to the longest shutdown in history, now impacting so many millions of Americans, but for just the bare minimum, we're going to get the government open, it looks like, just tells you everything you need to know about his party.
He's not been a part of that.
And I tip my hat to him.
I didn't love the election results.
My expectations were not high.
I think that Virginia is a blue state.
I think Glenn Younc was the outlier.
I think Winston Sears did not run the best campaign, to be very frank.
Jack Chitterelli had the problem in the last three years.
They lost a quarter of a million people in New Jersey.
He got 150,000 more votes than he got the last time and still lost.
And this migration is impacting a lot of states like New York, New Jersey, and California and Illinois.
So there's a lot going on here.
And the country is divided, and he's just not going to be part of that cancer.
And I applaud him for it.
I'm not going crazy, you know, screaming Nazi fascist racist because, you know, because the worst, I affectionately call Zoron, you know, Marxist Kami Mamdani, but, you know, he is a commie.
I mean, he is.
That's his position.
Do you think Setterman's really making a difference with his colleagues?
Are there more like him that are just afraid to speak up?
Do you think that there'll be a turn from some others to join him in his perspective?
If I'm right in my prediction that Donald Trump has laid the foundation for economic success that will be historic, and Reagan needed over a year for his tax plan to take effect before we really felt the impact of it beginning to really penetrate the economy and dropping the top marginal rates from 70 to 28 percent over the rest of his presidency, that would be the last six years of his presidency.
They created 21 million new jobs and the longest period of peacetime economic growth.
Couple that with energy dominance and couple that with trillions in committed investments in our economy that President Trump has been able to accrue that no other president has.
You know, it just, you don't snap your finger and just move the Titanic.
It doesn't work that way.
But we're moving in all the indicators are we're moving in the right direction.
And it just is a lag time before we start feeling it the way I think we will.
I've been a believer in this in supply-side economics my whole life, and it's never let me down so far.
By the way, John Kennedy believed in it.
Right, right.
Well, I appreciate your insight.
I, again, huge fan.
Love my state.
Thank you.
And I really am so pleased with that everyone was just interested in your perspective.
So thanks for fighting the fight for us.
Well, thank you.
I love the people of Pennsylvania.
You know, Pennsylvania, just, you know, hardworking, you know, just call to the earth people, period.
Free people.
Yep.
Appreciate the call, Marie.
Thank you.
All right.
Quick break right back to our phones.
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Richard, Texas, next, Sean Hannity Show.
What's up, Richard?
By the way, I saw that you guys adopted in your state constitution.
Now, you're never going to have an estate tax.
You're never going to have corporate taxes.
A brilliant move that will attract so many businesses to Texas.
Texas is going to thrive even more.
Isn't that wonderful?
And, you know, what I worry about is the kids.
Nobody does research.
It's like what's going on up there in New York.
I hope someone's paying attention and they start passing this on to the children that it's like what's happening right now.
I mean, President Trump's giving us an example of what a president should be and what he should do and the transparency and just everything he does and how hard he works.
You know, I came from nothing and I was able to work 18-hour days, kind of like what you've said about your life.
And you took whatever job you could get and have become successful with my wife's help.
And I just think the kids don't do any research.
Everything's at their fingertips.
And that's a big problem of communism.
Mom Donnie in New York.
Maybe this is exactly what New York needs.
Maybe this is what the United States needs to see to see how this works out because of course it's going to fail.
And, you know, I just wish more people would pay attention.
But I've always, people are so busy working and trying to pay the rent and the bills that sometimes they just don't pay enough attention.
You know, I'm 68 years old and the world's really changed a lot since the John F. Kennedy days when I was a kid in school.
And the Democratic Party, shame, shame, shame on them.
And I don't know.
I just really think that maybe this is what New York needs.
This is within the United States to see what's going to happen.
And maybe these children will get interested in doing some research.
And these are the things I worry about at 68 years old because this country is not the same that I grew up in.
Richard, you're raising a good point here.
You know, when everything is offered for free, and this is why I wrote a whole chapter, Live Free or Die, about socialism and its history of failure, whatever name it's given, whatever form or manifestation it takes on, the promises are glorious.
Everything's going to be free.
We're going to share the wealth.
You know, we're going to tax the rich.
You're going to get your fair share.
All your fears, anxieties, worries about life and living will be taken away from you.
And your government is going to, you know, cradle to grave, womb to tomb, protect you.
You know, it sounds appealing.
There's a part of that.
Oh.
However, it negates human nature.
Human nature, we are designed to contribute.
God gave you talent when you were born.
You're not designed to get everything for free.
And here's the truth.
It always ends the same way.
Unfulfilled promises.
You end up with more poverty than when you started because they can't sustain it.
Obamacare being exhibit A, Social Security exhibit B, bad government schools exhibit C, you know, defund dismantle, no bail laws, open borders, you know, D, E, and F, and G, and just keep going.
And government fails, and they fail spectacularly.
And then you calculate, you give up freedom in the name of false security.
The beauty of capitalism is it is predicated on a belief that you have talent and ability.
And if you give in the freedom to go out and take that talent and build goods and services that you provide other people and make a profit and make a living, it has created the greatest standard of wealth in the industry.
And this is what makes America the greatest country God gave man.
It's a little harder sell than telling you, don't worry, we'll take care of everything for you.
Now, I think the country is going to go through a period where we're going to have to educate some young people.
And I'm hopeful that, you know, this is why I wish people would focus less on intramural stupidity and even in our movement and focus more on, you know, helping people to understand what this is all about.
But there's a certain appeal to this that we better be very wary of.
And I think that, you know, this is a canary in the coal mine.
Now, you see on the other side of it, people get it and they're leaving and they're leaving in droves.
And they're going to your state, my state, Tennessee, and the Carolinas.
They're getting out and other states around the country.
Got to run.
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