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Nov. 4, 2025 - Sean Hannity Show
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Sean, if you want to join us, number one, the Trump USDA found enough emergency funding to cover 50% of the food stamp program for a month, which is a start.
And, you know, I'm expecting after this election tomorrow that hopefully we will have the government open up and the shakedown and the hostage taking by the Schumer shutdown.
Schumer, a guy's entire career, I played the montage over and over and over again.
But that looms large now.
Real people are going to be impacted.
By the end of this week, we may be asking you to donate to your local food bank because people are going to be in dire, you know, in very bad, you know, very bad positions financially.
And hopefully we can get this thing reset after the election.
I think Democrats have purposely held out to not let this impact the election, thinking it would help them, although polls show just the opposite.
And, you know, we'll just have to wait and see what happens here.
Now, I don't think that Republicans in the House and Senate are going to end the Senate in particular are going to end the filibuster.
They do not want to be the party that does it, but there's a new shutdown urgency.
States have announced aid to cover SNAP benefits during this shutdown.
That was supposed to happen on Saturday.
They've been able to extend it out at least temporarily.
John Fetterman saying Democrats really need to own the shutdown.
I mean, we're shutting it down.
And Fetterman ripping Schumer for using Americans as leverage because all these Democrats, Chris Koons, you know, congressmen and women, all the, it's the only way we know people are hurting, but we're doing it for leverage.
It's pretty remarkable, sad, pathetic, and the antithesis of everything they say that they believed it.
So we're going to watch that very, very closely.
You know, there's something, there's going to be something.
If Momdani wins, Marx's Momdani in New York City tomorrow, although obviously something dramatic happened.
Atlas polling is very credible.
Clearly, the bottom is dropping out for Momdani.
The question is, is it too late?
And I said, you know, weeks ago when Linda said, well, why doesn't Cuomo approach Curtis and they form a coalition?
That would have been, if $10 million isn't going to get Curtis out of the race, and he's so angry at Andrew Cuomo for instituting no cash bail in New York.
That was never the answer.
I mentioned earlier in the program that Goldman Sachs, led by David Solomon, they're going to spend $500 million in Dallas, Texas for an 800,000 square foot campus there.
A half a billion dollars is being spent by Apple.
They're spending a ton there.
They now have more JP Morgan Chase employees in Texas, thousands more than in New York City.
And Wall Street South in Florida, Citadel's Ken Griffith, he moved to Florida out of Illinois.
They're all going to leave.
They're not going to put up with what Momdani's offering.
You know, this is Mamdani, you know, promising everything is going to be free, free, free, free, free.
Listen.
We are going to freeze the rent for more than 2 million rent stabilized tenants and use every resource at our disposal to build housing for everyone who needs it.
We are going to eliminate the fare on every single bus line and make what are currently the slowest buses in the nation move around this city with ease.
And we are going to create universal child care at no cost to parents So New Yorkers can raise their family in the city they love.
Together, New York, we're going to freeze up.
Together, New York, we're going to make buses fast in.
Together, New York, we're going to deliver universal.
Anyway, now let's play Mamdani, hoping to convince wealthy New Yorkers to pay higher taxes.
Listen.
But right now, the top 1% earners in the city pay 40% of the city's income taxes, according to the Empire Center for Public Policy.
How do you bring these wealthy residents to the table as mayor?
Stop them from saying they're leaving, going to Florida, because we need that tax revenue to pay for some of the things you're talking about.
What I have put forward is a vision to make the most expensive city in the United States of America affordable at a time when we have the wealthiest city.
It is also one where one in four are living in poverty.
And to your point, we have a number of New Yorkers who are doing quite well.
The top 1% of New York City earns $1 million or more a year.
And my vision is not one where they leave.
It is one where they stay.
Why don't you get them to stay?
In part by showing them that asking them to pay more in taxes would increase even their quality of life.
All right, joining us now is Steve Moore.
We love our friend Steve Moore, probably one of the smartest economists out there, author of the bestseller, Trumponomics inside the American First Plan to Revive Our Economy.
Sir, how are you?
Welcome back.
Good to be with you, Sean.
A couple of just quick insights.
I mean, one is, you know, there are 45 million people in America today that are on food stamps.
I mean, come on, what's wrong with our country that you've got people who are on food stamps?
We've got to get people out off of the dole, off of food stamps, off of Medicaid, off of free housing, all of this stuff, and into the labor force and getting a paycheck.
All the Republicans are saying is, hey, if you're going to get these government programs, you're going to have to have a job.
You're going to have to be, you know, work requirements.
This is something that about 80% of Americans are in favor of, regardless of party.
And it just, it saddens me that 45 million people are getting free food from the taxpayers.
When you played that clip from Mandami, I was thinking, my gosh, this sounds like Lenin.
This sounds like Fidel Castro.
I mean, that's exactly what they told people, you know, 50 and 100 years ago.
Everything's going to be free.
And look what happened.
Somebody's got to show me, Sean.
Can you point to anywhere, literally anywhere in the world at any time where socialism worked?
No.
I wrote a whole chapter in Live, Free or Die, Socialism and Its History of Failure.
Any form, any name, any manifestation of it always ends the same way.
Unfulfilled promises, more poverty than when you started.
And you end up sacrificing a large percentage of your freedom in the name of false security.
And I give example after example.
Yep.
Well, so I want to address that issue of what's happened in New York.
And not just New York, by the way, there's a big election in New Jersey as well, of course.
The two of the three states with the highest taxes in the country are guess what?
New York and New Jersey, the third one being California.
New York, the people who should vote, go to our website called votewithyourfeet.net.
And you can click on New York and then any other state, Sean.
You could click on Arkansas.
You could click on West Virginia.
You could click on Texas or Utah or Idaho.
And it'll show you which way are the moving vans going.
And guess where they're going?
Out of New York, not into New York.
So New York has lost, are you ready for this?
2 million people on net over the last 10 years.
2 million people.
They have lost.
Now, we did a little study looking at what was the impact in terms of income in that state of New York.
New York has lost, you're not going to believe this, $500 billion of purchasing power in the state because people have moved out away from high taxes, away from crime, away from the massive budget deficits of these states.
And you said it quite correctly, my friend.
Where are they going?
Number one, Florida, number two, Texas, number three, Tennessee.
They're leaving because they cannot afford to live there and they're not going to pay these confiscatory taxes.
So if you put additional taxes like Mandani is talking about in New York City, I'm going to make a prediction to you, Sean, on your show.
I think Wall Street is gone.
It's gone.
You were quite correct.
A lot of it is left already.
I think you're going to see the next financial capital of the country will either be Dallas, Texas, or Miami, Florida.
Well, I think Wall Street South is very real.
I mentioned Texas.
I mentioned Wall Street South here in Florida.
It is very real, I know, because these financial firms are there.
Now, my guess is the mass exodus that has already begun is only going to get accelerated.
And with that, these companies, they may have a small presence on Wall Street, private equity firms, big banks, financial firms, et cetera, investment firms.
They may have a small presence that they'll keep in New York, but their major operations are not going to be in New York, and it is not going to be taxed by New York.
The one thing I've learned about rich people in the course of my life is they're not stupid.
There are a lot of things.
There are some that are evil.
There are some that may have a dark side, but most of them are not stupid.
They didn't make that money if they made it, putting aside trust fund brats.
I don't really know those people.
But I'm just telling you, if people that I know make money, they're going to make a business decision.
And whatever the cost of moving is, it's nothing compared to what it would cost them if they stayed there and got taxed to death.
Well, I'll give you an example.
I think, as you know, Sean, I originally from the Chicago area.
I love Chicago.
I think it's one of the greatest, once was one of the greatest cities in the world.
They elected Brandon Johnson, who's a socialist in Chicago.
And people have been moving out amass.
And so their deficit has gotten worse and worse.
And the head of Citadel, I'm blanking out his name.
What's the name of the billionaire from Blank Out?
Oh, Ken Griffin.
Ken Griffin, yeah.
When he moved, he now lives in Palm Beach.
And when he moved, one person, one billionaire.
So listen, New Yorkers, listen up, people of New Jersey, New York.
One billionaire left out.
It put a $50 million hole in the Illinois state budget.
That's how much they got out of it.
I mean, he's a multi-multi-billionaire, and he's moved all his operations between Palm Beach and Miami, Florida.
And I know people that work for all of those New York companies here in the free state of Florida.
Right now, they work here.
And I think they have all been paying very close attention to it.
What shocks me is, you know, when this last-minute hyper-alarmism that has come out about this race, what part of Andrew Cuomo losing the primary didn't wake those people up that Mamdani was real?
Well, I mean, look, the problem, quite frankly, is, you know, Cuomo is an extremely flawed candidate, too.
I mean, I would have a hard time if I lived in New York voting for Cuomo.
I mean, he's the one who locked down the New York City economy and led to this exodus.
So it's not, I'm for the Republican in that race.
And I think you're right.
He's the one that started Nobel in New York.
Right.
Right.
So it's a long time ago, if they wanted to get to Curtis Lee, look, Curtis Lee says, I don't know who offered him the money, but he says he was offered 10 million dollars.
You know, he I.
I could have told you because I've known the guy 35 plus years that he'd never take money.
I could have told you that.
But his passion is law and order and stopping crime in New York and keeping New Yorkers safe.
He lives in the subways.
I mean, this is his whole life's work.
And why Cuomo didn't reach out to Saliwa and say, you know, I'll make you deputy mayor in charge of crime and law and order.
And I will back down on this no-bail madness and reimagine the police madness because they're both talking almost about the same number of police officers that they'd hire.
Curtis would hold them accountable to that.
But that was on Cuomo as far as I'm concerned to do the reach out.
I mean, this first, look, do you think Atlas has a very good track record with polling?
This is the only poll that had Mamdani up in single digits, 6.6 points.
It's the only poll that had Cuomo beating Mamdani head to head.
And it only came out this weekend.
So, you know, the argument to me, you know, show me the numbers.
Okay, I finally got numbers the weekend before the election that I believe.
Atlas, for some reason, I don't even know who these people are, have a good track record.
So clearly, you know, this last-minute panic has worked.
Is it too little, too late?
I would argue probably yes.
Well, you know, the saddest part of this whole story, because you've lived in New York.
I've lived.
I lived there when I was at the Wall Street Journal for 10 years.
I went back and forth between D.C. and New York.
And at that time, in the mid-late 90s, was Rudy came in as mayor.
And you could see day after day after day the change in New York.
It became a livable city again.
It was thriving again.
You had businesses reopening.
They got rid of the crime.
They got rid of the graffiti.
They got rid of the panhandlers.
I mean, it was amazing what one person could do.
And essentially what Mandani is going to do is exactly the opposite of everything Rudy did to fix the city.
Well, Rudy Giuliani cleaned it up.
And, you know, I just had, you know, somebody, you know, told me, well, you know, the mayor doesn't have any power.
I'm like, that's a crock.
Exhibit A is Rudy Giuliani.
As mayor, he cleaned that place up and it was a mess.
I remember growing up and we'd go from Long Island to New York City.
We were young teenagers.
And I mean, you couldn't, I mean, I remember the peep shows and, you know, the strip places and 42nd Street.
You couldn't walk three feet without being approached by a drug dealer.
It was insane.
Crime was out of control.
The murder rate was nearly 3,000.
They brought it below 300.
Well, it shows leadership matters, doesn't it?
And you get, and the other thing he did was cut taxes.
And guess what?
Businesses started moving back into the city rather than out of the city.
Yeah, you're right.
Steve Moore, we appreciate you, man.
Thank you.
800-941-SEAN if you want to be a part of the program.
Keeping an eye on Chuck and Nancy and their minions.
You know, I know there's been a lot of press.
CBS, former New York Times, I don't know what she did.
Writer, editor Barry Weiss has moved over there.
And somehow they think that, oh, you know, CBS Sky Dance Paramount is going to be more balanced.
And apparently she had asked the question of the 60-minute staff: why does the country perceive you as liberal?
Well, okay, that was before this interview with President Trump with Nora O'Donnell.
I walked away saying, 60 Minutes, CBS, they haven't changed an inch.
Here's some of the hostile questions.
I'm going to play a montage.
It was nothing but hostile, dripping hostility.
Listen.
When I look at D.C. now, you can walk down the middle of the street.
You can have your daughter, who's 10 years old, meet you at the park.
She's going to be okay.
Insurance.
I live in D.C.
Well, you tell me how big a difference is D.C. now compared to what it was a year ago.
I want to ask you about American Cities in Washington, D.C.
I think I've been working too hard.
I haven't been out and about.
No, that's not a fair answer.
You see a difference.
More recently, Americans have been watching videos of ICE tackling a young mother, tear gas being used in a Chicago residential neighborhood, and the smashing of car windows.
Have some of these raids gone too far?
No, I think they haven't gone far enough.
James Comey, John Bolton, Letitia James were all recently indicted.
There's a pattern to these names.
They're all public figures who have publicly denounced you.
Is it political retribution?
You know what?
You know who got indicted?
The man you're looking at.
I got indicted and I was innocent.
Did you instruct the Department of Justice to not in any way, shape, or form?
No.
Okay, there you go.
There's your answer.
Unless there's a complete redo, forget it.
Anyway, don't waste your time.
Let's get to our phones.
Let's say hi to Albert.
He's in New Jersey.
Albert, we're watching New Jersey closely.
New Jersey is real.
It's in play.
Now, it's a long shot.
It's a dark blue state, but there are four polls that have it a one-point race.
And I believe that, you know, the only way Jack Chitterelli can win is if all of you in New Jersey, listening to my voice, call every one of your friends and family members.
And, you know, you've got to get people to go out there.
Mikey Sherrill is a disaster.
And if you think that your current governor, Phil Murphy, is great, you're going to get worse than that with Mikey Sherrill.
Anyway, you got a shot in New Jersey tomorrow.
I wish you all the best.
It's definitely in play.
Don't let anyone convince you not to vote.
And if you're in line tomorrow, and if you're in line before the polls close, you get to vote.
What time are the polls close in New Jersey?
I think 8 o'clock tomorrow.
New York, 9 o'clock, just as I come on the air tomorrow night.
Anyway, what's up, Albert?
How are you?
Well, a couple of things.
I'm from Jersey.
I've spent most of my life here.
I'm a train chef, and I've been around the world.
The thing about Jersey is it's not as deep a blue state as you think it is.
Northern part of the state is.
The southern part of the state is as red as you could possibly be.
Our unfortunate part about it is that you have that Sanctuary City stuff worked against us in the last election because we have all these people and we don't have verification of voters' IDs, which is to me it's insane that we don't have that.
I don't know why we shouldn't have it throughout the United States.
What was it?
And then, yeah, was it Passaic County, one of the counties, the local town council voted not to put cameras on mail-in ballots?
I'm like, that is insane.
If we don't have voter integrity, I mean, both sides, Republicans and Democrats, have complained about it.
So make elections fair.
And that means voter ID, signature verification, chain of custody controls where, yeah, those early ballots are monitored 24-7 online.
Any person in any state should be able to look at them anytime they want so nobody can go in there and mess with them.
Then you want updated voter rolls.
And on top of it, you need partisan observers watching the voting all day and the vote counting all night.
Listen, New Jersey, you got a shot.
This may be your last shot because Mamdani wins and Mikey Sherrow wins.
I don't know if New Jersey can recover.
I mean, the damage that has been done, the budget nearly doubled.
You're 49th out of 50 in terms of taxes in the country.
If you want to live that way, you go right ahead.
I want no part of it myself, but you have a chance to stop it.
You have a chance.
And tell everybody, all of you in New Jersey, we have a big listening audience in New Jersey.
Tell everybody you know to vote.
Everybody, get out.
This is in play.
This is real.
It's tough, but it's in play.
Anyway, appreciate the call, Albert.
Good luck tomorrow, man.
I'm hoping for the best for our friends in New Jersey.
Let's say hi to Carol in Maryland.
Carol, you're on the Sean Hannity show.
Hi.
Oh, hi, Florida, man.
Wish I was there.
I'm in the old state of Maryland.
Anyway, I've caught about my son.
He's one of these TSA agents that's going to work every day and not being paid.
And it's getting rough.
It wasn't too hard at the beginning, but we thought it would be over real fast, but it just keeps going on and on and on.
Do you think there's any end inside or is he just going to have to keep going to work every day without pay?
I haven't been helping as much as I can.
But it's I think after tomorrow, I think that it's, I think the government will begin the process of opening credit to the Trump administration.
You know, snap benefits was supposed to expire on Saturday.
The president, you know, figured out a way to keep the payments going in the short term.
I don't want to have to come on the air and beg all of you to go to your local food bank, although it's a nice thing to do on a regular basis anyway.
But if that happens, if you can afford it, your food banks are going to be overrun.
Overrun.
Yeah.
Well, I've been saving money for a car.
I drive an old 2005 Chevy Malibu, but I've been putting money aside for a new car, but I'm giving that to him now to get him through this mess.
Hopefully, my mom won't get out about it.
Anyway, Carol, I appreciate it.
But, you know, I feel sorry for people like your son.
We need them.
We need our air traffic controllers back.
And we need, you know, critical, you know, we need our military to get paid.
They're getting paid now because of the generosity of one donor, you know, temporarily until they get paid back.
But I'm just telling you, we really need it.
So appreciate the call.
Back to our phones, upstate New York.
Ianthe.
Thank you for taking my call and thank you for everything you do.
And I would like to say a few things about the election in New York City, where I lived most of my adult life, and there is no better place that I love more.
And that is how New Yorkers feel about New York.
I know why you left.
The last time I was there a couple of years ago, I have seen what happened.
But here is what I want to say.
The first point is: I agree with Mayor Giuliani and also about the polls not really being indicative.
And I agree with Linda about Curtis Lewa being able to pull out this election at the last minute.
But for that to happen, last week I read that 8% of registered Democrats were coming out, but only 5% were registered Republicans.
Everyone who is in the sound of my voice and your voice and anyone else's voice who understands that Curtis Lewin, the city desperately needs him, if they're in New York, don't sit home.
It was the same problem.
The Trump campaign had the same problem with a lot of people supporting Trump, even going to the rallies, but they weren't coming out to vote, and they had to make a huge push to get those people actually out to the polls.
Don't sit home and tell everyone you know to get out there to the polls.
And if you're not in the city and you have relatives in the city or friends in the city, get on the phone, get onto email, get onto text, and tell them to get out to the polls.
It's not election day until tomorrow.
And if there's anyone who ever deserved to be mayor of New York more than Curtis Lewa, I don't know who it is.
And if there's anyone that the city needed more than he, I don't know who it is.
We have to have Curtis Lewa, and I believe it is possible.
Now, the other candidates, Mom Dominic, I'll say Cuomo first.
Cuomo is a broken man.
I've always felt a certain regarded him with a certain feeling of poignancy because I don't think he ever had a chance to become a full person in his father's shadow.
He now is without a job.
Job security matters to him.
He's not an unmaterialistic person.
And this is the only place he had to try to go.
He told us in New York State a few years ago: if you're not a liberal, you're not a New Yorker.
Well, if you vote for Montani or Cuomo, you're not a New Yorker and not a New York City person.
He gave us Kathy Hochl, who is, he caused the problem.
All the problems need to be cleared up now in the city.
He gave us Kathy Hochl, who has been a disaster as a governor.
And on top of everything else, we have a wrongful death law in New York State that was the first wrongful death law ever passed in the country, but it's over 100 years old.
It's antiquated and it's not fair.
And the legislatures have been trying to pass a new one that is a better one for a long time now.
Cassie Hochl won't sign it.
If she signed it and the statute of limitation work were in place in a way that would involve Cuomo, can you imagine what would happen to him over those 15,000 people who died in nursing homes?
So, Cuomo, no, he should drop out.
It's Cuomo who should be dropping out and throwing his help to Sliwa.
And as for Mengami, he's not even a New Yorker.
And the first people who are voting for him are not even New Yorkers.
On top of which, from what I see, I think he's going to have a very, very rough time that he's not expecting in the next couple of years.
He's been able to coast so far on a smile and a beard.
But when you really look at him, you can see what he is.
And he's bad news.
And again, everyone who knows anyone in New York, no matter where you are in the country, in the world, call anyone you know in New York and make sure they get to the polls tomorrow.
Well, I can't say it any better.
I will tell you that, particularly in New Jersey, but I'm going to add New York City, and I'll add Virginia.
We are huge underdogs going into tomorrow, but particularly in New Jersey, tomorrow is going to be a turnout day election.
If you don't overwatch, I probably will have a very good idea if we have a shot by the time this show starts tomorrow at 3 p.m.
I will know what the turnout numbers are.
And if we're getting near the current record turnout that we will need for Jack Chittorelli in red areas in New Jersey, you have to turn out.
You have to get your friends to turn out, your family to turn out, your coworkers to turn out.
It's a turnout election.
That's what's going to make the difference.
But I appreciate it.
Same in New York City.
We can shock the world.
But New Jersey's, you know, the one we have the best shot at, in my humble opinion.
I'm not polyanish with this audience.
I tell you the truth.
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Matt Towery and Robert Cahali.
We'll look at the poll numbers.
Stephen Miller tonight.
Piers Morgan tonight.
Curtis Sleewa, Jack Chittorelli, Jason Miaris, Lawrence Jones.
Go out and vote, especially in New Jersey and especially for Mayoris in Virginia.
Anyway, that's all the time we have left.
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